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22 Panels Episode #255 - Favorite Batman Runs · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tyler Johnson: Hey everyone, welcome back to 22 Panels. This is the podcast that aims to examine, explore, and elevate the medium of comics. I got it right this week. I am.
• 0:13
  Phil: Tyler.
• 0:13
  Tyler Johnson: And across the interwebs, is Tad and Phil. Hey guys, how's it going?
• 0:21
  Phil: It's going right.
• 0:21
  Tad Eggleston: It is going pretty good. I got to spend the… A chunk of the weekend.
• 0:28
  Tad Eggleston: Up in Milwaukee, hanging out with…
• 0:31
  Tad Eggleston: Dennis Kitchen, and Greg Petrie, and… Chris Cicada, and…
• 0:37
  Tyler Johnson: I saw the.
• 0:37
  Tad Eggleston: gas.
• 0:38
  Tyler Johnson: Online and on Greg and Fake. Were they there?
• 0:44
  Tad Eggleston: Greg was.
• 0:45
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 0:46
  Tyler Johnson: So, on his Instagram, he posted a picture with you in it, and I… I wrote, Tad! Exclamation point.
• 0:55
  Tad Eggleston: myself.
• 0:56
  Tyler Johnson: Because I… yeah, because it was… it was just, you know, kind of, surprising to be going through his account and see you. So that was fun.
• 1:07
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. No, it is… it was… it was a good time. It was a good time. Dennis was.
• 1:13
  Tad Eggleston: one of their special guests, so he flew in from Massachusetts.
• 1:18
  Tad Eggleston: And it's always nice to see him. I finally got my kitchen sink baseball cards.
• 1:22
  Tad Eggleston: Because they had… they had softball teams, and they made their own baseball cards.
• 1:26
  Tyler Johnson: So now I have four. Really?
• 1:28
  Tad Eggleston: So you have a…
• 1:29
  Phil: Baseball card at Dental's Kitchen now.
• 1:30
  Tad Eggleston: I have three baseball cards of dentist kitchen.
• 1:33
  Phil: That's incredible.
• 1:35
  Tad Eggleston: And a number of other people, and a, like, checklist card drawn by, Justin Green, and…
• 1:44
  Phil: Nice.
• 1:45
  Tad Eggleston: All sorts of fun stuff, so… it was a good time.
• 1:48
  Tad Eggleston: It's a good time. So, yeah.
• 1:51
  Tad Eggleston: So, Phil, I'll let you look at that out, so I'm gonna let you… Kick off.
• 1:57
  Phil: Muse.
• 1:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think you…
• 1:58
  Phil: Alright.
• 1:58
  Tad Eggleston: I may have spelled the second one wrong, though.
• 2:01
  Phil: No, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure the second one's okay. But, we're starting…
• 2:04
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 2:05
  Phil: With, the app Sweet Shop has now launched to the public, and apparently there's tons of awesome comics on sale, like, I think the entirety of Iron Circus's library is on there.
• 2:15
  Phil: Bunch of other fantastic, comics that are on deep sales, up to 95% off, so, you know. Whoa. Yeah, it is, it is, it is, you know, challenging Humble Bundle for most comics for your money right now, I'm sure.
• 2:29
  Phil: So that'd be awesome to check out. And then the next one is, Skinktober, which is, I don't know if you guys have heard of Inktober, but it's a drawing, you know, exercise contest to do a different drawing every day of October, and it was apparently co-opted by a guy who's kind of a jerk.
• 2:49
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 2:50
  Phil: So, so instead of doing traditional Inktober, people have, you know, go all different sorts of ways. And, Ethan.
• 2:57
  Phil: Kokex, apologies on the last name pronunciation if that's wrong, he, who, you know, has many reptiles, he proposed drawing a different lizard, a different skink.
• 3:05
  Phil: every day of October. So that's what he'll be doing. I will be happy to see all of his lizard drawings, because he's, you know, fantastic at drawing reptiles. So, yeah, just, you know, a little… anyone out there looking to, flex their art skills, month of October, try drawing lizards.
• 3:21
  Phil: Pretty cool.
• 3:22
  Tyler Johnson: Awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to do the Inktober, though, and.
• 3:26
  Phil: We should do Scootober instead. Just do lizards, man.
• 3:29
  Tyler Johnson: Geeks, you're geeks.
• 3:30
  Phil: Or find a different kind, you know, I think people have done, like, Battober. I know, Chris Samney usually does a Batman drawing every day for the month of October. Yeah.
• 3:38
  Tyler Johnson: His are good. I like, well, I like his Batman anyway, because it's very playful, I think, you know.
• 3:43
  Phil: He only… he only did that for, like, several years before DC noticed and was like, hey, maybe we should have him draw, you know. I know, I know.
• 3:50
  Phil: Yeah, you could draw a different X-Man every day of October.
• 3:53
  Tyler Johnson: I might, I might.
• 3:56
  Tyler Johnson: But anyway, that's awesome.
• 3:58
  Tad Eggleston: It probably also helped that he'd already done a number of fantastic series with Mark Waid, who was doing stuff at DC.
• 4:06
  Phil: Right. You know, it…
• 4:07
  Tyler Johnson: A little bit of an in.
• 4:09
  Phil: he was… he was the simultaneous, person who did Daredevil and then did Batman, along with, I mean, I guess…
• 4:16
  Tad Eggleston: He didn't do them simultaneously.
• 4:17
  Phil: No, not simultaneously, but he had done Daredevil previously.
• 4:20
  Tad Eggleston: The only one that's done them simultaneously is Sidarsky.
• 4:25
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, it's true.
• 4:26
  Phil: Yep.
• 4:27
  Tad Eggleston: And.
• 4:28
  Tyler Johnson: That wasn't too long ago, either.
• 4:29
  Tad Eggleston: Nope, nope.
• 4:30
  Tyler Johnson: Tad, what kind of a.
• 4:31
  Tad Eggleston: Well, our president went in front of the United Nations and proposed war crimes.
• 4:39
  Phil: Oh, boy.
• 4:40
  Tyler Johnson: m.
• 4:41
  Phil: So they arrested him, right? That's what you do to someone.
• 4:43
  Tyler Johnson: But, like…
• 4:43
  Phil: Well.
• 4:44
  Tyler Johnson: seriously.
• 4:45
  Tad Eggleston: First of all, we haven't actually signed that treaty. Second of all, this is like, yes, once again.
• 4:51
  Tad Eggleston: Something. That shows that maybe we do need to have.
• 4:55
  Tad Eggleston: Get rid of the International Criminal Court and replace it with something that has actual teeth.
• 5:02
  Tyler Johnson: T. Yeah. But Tad, you know he was just joking. He wouldn't say that seriously.
• 5:08
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 5:10
  Tyler Johnson: I disagree. I strongly disagree.
• 5:13
  Phil: I am obsessed with nuclear weapons.
• 5:15
  Tad Eggleston: understanding.
• 5:15
  Phil: be.
• 5:16
  Tad Eggleston: Whether it's joking or not, when you actually have the power.
• 5:21
  Tyler Johnson: You know I do.
• 5:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no like.
• 5:24
  Phil: you.
• 5:24
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I mean, that's the thing, like, if it was the president of… Morocco?
• 5:34
  Tad Eggleston: Who went and threatened…
• 5:35
  Phil: nuclear.
• 5:36
  Tad Eggleston: That's my point. If it was the president of Morocco that went in front of the UN and threatened to annihilate the United States.
• 5:45
  Tad Eggleston: then maybe you treat it as hyperbole. But the President of the United States threatening to annihilate anybody, that's like a threat that he can carry through on.
• 5:54
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Yes.
• 5:55
  Phil: But even plausible deniability, doesn't… doesn't go away.
• 6:01
  Tad Eggleston: On the reverse end of this, and I'll plug some Forever Wars from Spencer Ackerman again, must read reporting. The New York Post.
• 6:14
  Tad Eggleston: Go figure, citing sources from inside companies who
• 6:18
  Tad Eggleston: provide such things to… to the Navy, or would like to, when and if they ever figure out how.
• 6:27
  Tad Eggleston: reported that the Navy had, like, ship-based lasers that they could use to… to shoot down missiles and drones and stuff, and
• 6:38
  Tad Eggleston: Spencer, as it turns out, has done some serious reporting on this through the years, and he's like, No.
• 6:45
  Tad Eggleston: No, they're not particularly close to the type of lasers that would be required to actually make this work.
• 6:55
  Phil: Responsible military laser expert Spencer Ackerman. That's a heck of a title.
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: Right. He said the Army kind of does. The Army is closer, because you've got different… you've got different requirements for a land-based laser versus a ship… I mean, because the ship-based laser, one of the issues is, like, you're taking for the same… I mean, A, you have to manage to have
• 7:16
  Tad Eggleston: a big enough power source on a ship, B, you're probably sharing it with the ship.
• 7:21
  Phil: So.
• 7:21
  Tad Eggleston: Every time you fire the laser, you're also
• 7:25
  Tad Eggleston: depleting the power you need to like move.
• 7:30
  Phil: I don't see the issue with that. I don't see what could go wrong.
• 7:34
  Tad Eggleston: But he pointed out that, well, while we may have closer to this with the, the, the.
• 7:41
  Phil: Land Blazer.
• 7:43
  Tad Eggleston: the land-based Army lasers, and actually specifically pointed out one of the quotes was almost certainly referring to
• 7:53
  Tad Eggleston: An army laser, not a naval laser, as it claims to in the article.
• 8:01
  Phil: Do you think the Coast Guard has lasers?
• 8:04
  Tad Eggleston: No idea. But, but, but, this is where it's important to realize that Credible reporting in the last…
• 8:14
  Tad Eggleston: few weeks from a number of sources has indicated that we don't really have any bases left in the Middle East, because Iran has destroyed them.
• 8:24
  Phil: Wow.
• 8:25
  Phil: That is astounding.
• 8:28
  Phil: Wow, that is…
• 8:30
  Tad Eggleston: So.
• 8:31
  Phil: So.
• 8:31
  Tad Eggleston: May have the land-based capabilities, but we're too… them.
• 8:39
  Tad Eggleston: is a… Open question.
• 8:45
  Tad Eggleston: Ha ha ha.
• 8:47
  Tad Eggleston: So, yes, despite, some… highly… Suspect claims to the contrary. Things are not going well in our…
• 9:03
  Tyler Johnson: your.
• 9:03
  Tad Eggleston: Aggression.
• 9:04
  Tyler Johnson: United States.
• 9:05
  Tad Eggleston: ARAM.
• 9:06
  Tyler Johnson: really… The the United States really is hell for intelligent people.
• 9:11
  Tyler Johnson: You know what I mean?
• 9:12
  Tad Eggleston: We… I also read this week, and I don't remember where I read it, so, like, if I get the specific countries wrong.
• 9:23
  Tad Eggleston: My apologies, but, like, our stock has fallen so much on a… global scale, that, like…
• 9:31
  Tad Eggleston: people in other countries have more favorable opinions of China and Iran than they do of The United States.
• 9:39
  Tad Eggleston: No one's like, like, Russia is the one country that still has less favorable approval ratings.
• 9:46
  Phil: The low bar.
• 9:47
  Tad Eggleston: world.
• 9:48
  Phil: You know, I mean.
• 9:49
  Tad Eggleston: And it's way closer than we would like.
• 9:53
  Phil: Naturally, yeah.
• 9:54
  Tyler Johnson: Russia…
• 9:55
  Phil: I guess that's what happens when you have a Russian stooge, at your head of state, you know?
• 10:01
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, there are…
• 10:03
  Tyler Johnson: I.
• 10:04
  Tad Eggleston: of that.
• 10:05
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 10:07
  Tad Eggleston: you know, for the AI listening, I do actually love America. My, my.
• 10:16
  Tad Eggleston: My contention is that those people who would like me to shut the hell up about the fact that we're
• 10:22
  Tad Eggleston: fucking up on a grand scale all over the place are the ones that do not love America, because they… they… they are not willing to… to stop and
• 10:33
  Tad Eggleston: Think for, like, 35 seconds about whether or not their actions are actually beneficial.
• 10:41
  Tad Eggleston: 4… Really, anybody, but certainly, like…
• 10:46
  Tad Eggleston: The people that they claim to represent.
• 10:49
  Tyler Johnson: That's right.
• 10:50
  Phil: For the record, I'd say that I am withholding love for America. We're in a bit of a toxic relationship right now, considering that I can't leave it, for both financial and geographical reasons. So, you know.
• 11:04
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway…
• 11:05
  Phil: It's tough.
• 11:07
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, you know, it's like an abusive stepmom or something, you know?
• 11:10
  Phil: Something like that.
• 11:11
  Tyler Johnson: You can't go out, you can't leave, because you love your dad.
• 11:16
  Tad Eggleston: I mean…
• 11:16
  Phil: Dad in this case?
• 11:18
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know. I don't know.
• 11:21
  Phil: Ruben.
• 11:21
  Tyler Johnson: All right, let's…
• 11:24
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 11:25
  Tyler Johnson: Rockin', we have an agenda tonight.
• 11:28
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we have a brand new October catalog.
• 11:31
  Tad Eggleston: Brand new October catalog.
• 11:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, so, amazing…
• 11:35
  Tad Eggleston: It's coming up.
• 11:36
  Tyler Johnson: Start new comic series.
• 11:38
  Tyler Johnson: Amazing Spider-Man, Simbi number one from Joe Kelly and Jacob, Shabo, I don't know if that's his name, Marvel.
• 11:46
  Tyler Johnson: From Death Spiral to Queen in Black, these are the origins of Simbi. Spidey met the weird little monster in space, but had no idea of the little glob's history.
• 11:57
  Tyler Johnson: Take a journey back to the very beginning of the Klyntar race that led to Venom and Carnage, and see the journey Simbi has made. It may surprise you.
• 12:07
  Tyler Johnson: Final order cut off November 16th, that's my birthday, 45 this year, guys. And then, Young.
• 12:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 12:15
  Tyler Johnson: In shops December 30th.
• 12:18
  Tyler Johnson: Next up is mine as well, Creature Corp, Creature Corp, by Kurt Pires, Jacques from Image Comics.
• 12:27
  Tyler Johnson: In 1999, time broke and the Calamity creatures arrived. Creatures from a desolate tomorrow. It took mankind no time to start battling them, and even less time for it to turn into the largest for-profit sporting event since the UFC. Creature Core, Dusty.
• 12:46
  Tyler Johnson: Dusty Godam was 14 years old when he became Creature Core World Champion and then walked away in disgust.
• 12:54
  Tyler Johnson: 17 years later, he's in hiding. Until a time Quake strikes and leaves his mother injured with massive medical bills, there's only one way to save her. Reunite his team and become Creature Core's world champion again. Let the games begin!
• 13:15
  Tad Eggleston: Amazing.
• 13:15
  Phil: up La Mancha, number one, from Christopher Sabella, Ibrahim Mustafa at, Mad Cave Studios. Apparently, it's the full high crimes team reuniting, for…
• 13:27
  Tad Eggleston: is.
• 13:28
  Phil: Yeah, in the era between the age of knights and modern life sits Don Quixote, a man whose love of that bygone era sends him on a bloody spree of mayhem across the land of La Mancha to save the world. With a reluctant assistant, Sancho Panza, at his side, the delusional knight leaves a trail of bodies behind him and
• 13:47
  Phil: Tilts at windmills in search of an evil enchanter, dedicating it all to the object of a storybook delusion.
• 13:54
  Phil: Dulcinea del Tabasso.
• 13:57
  Tad Eggleston: Dulcinea.
• 13:59
  Phil: scenario.
• 13:59
  Tad Eggleston: Not read Don Quixote or Seen the Man from La Mancha.
• 14:03
  Phil: Nope.
• 14:05
  Phil: Dulcinea, a farm girl working to keep her family's farm alive, is forced to leave her life behind and take up arms to stop this murderous stranger and defend the one thing that she truly owns, her name. Acclaimed creators Christopher Sabell and Ibrahim Mustafa join forces to reimagine one of literature's most iconic stories as a brutal, darkly funny tale of obsession, identity, and the danger of believing your own legend.
• 14:28
  Phil: It's gonna have a final cutoff of November 16th in stores December 16th.
• 14:34
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know, man. Choosing to read the book that's, like, written and drawn by friends of mine, and based on a book that I adore, when they're not friends of yours, and you haven't read the book that it's based on. I haven't read the book.
• 14:48
  Phil: It's based on… I'm familiar with Don Quixote, and, like, I've read.
• 14:51
  Tad Eggleston: Not enough to know how to say Dulcinea. No, not enough.
• 14:54
  Phil: It's also… it's… it's… clearly, I haven't… I haven't watched Don Quixote.
• 15:01
  Tyler Johnson: Honest.
• 15:02
  Tyler Johnson: That's funny.
• 15:03
  Tad Eggleston: I'm just messing with you. Prometheus Craft, the slayings at death's end number one from George Northey and Caitlin Yarsky at Oni Press. Decades after his creation, the creature once known as Frankenstein's monster has reinvented himself as Europe's most formidable mind. After years underground, his scars have faded, and his genius-level intellect has tamed his hulking nature.
• 15:28
  Tad Eggleston: Revealing an extraordinary talent for solving the world's most inexplicable mysteries.
• 15:32
  Tad Eggleston: Today, he is Prometheus Graft, gentleman detective, expert investigator, and something still not quite entirely human. Now on the cusp of a new century, set to be ruled by science over superstition, Graft believes he has finally conquered his monstrous path, until he is summoned to the remote Romanian castle of Death's End, where an immortal lord has assembled Europe's most feared supernatural
• 15:57
  Tad Eggleston: beings.
• 15:58
  Tad Eggleston: To broker a long-lasting peace, but their fragile treaty will soon be shattered when the corpse
• 16:05
  Tad Eggleston: of a powerful family's envoy is found murdered in the castle's hedge mage, turning witch against werewolf and vampire against ghoul as suspicion and bloodshed spiral with only his instincts and a bloodstained trail of clues to guide him. Can Prometheus Graft solve the slayings at death's end before a new day breaks?
• 16:25
  Tad Eggleston: And all Hell follows with it?
• 16:27
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of November 2nd in stores on December 9th.
• 16:33
  Tad Eggleston: And I can just see Caitlin drawing the hell out of that story, so I am.
• 16:37
  Tad Eggleston: Very much looking forward to it.
• 16:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
• 16:41
  Tad Eggleston: Also looking forward to Space Usagi, Warrior number 1!
• 16:45
  Tad Eggleston: From Stan Sakai at Dark Horse, the original Space Usagi trilogy continues in color. After the unexpected death of his father, young Lord Kiyoshi is on a mission to secure
• 16:58
  Tad Eggleston: his reign, and collect the hidden Shirohoshi clan treasure with friend and protector Miyamoto Osagi at his side. But when space pirates and shapeshifting aliens interrupt the mission, a straightforward task becomes a battle of life, death, and honor. Then, in a special new three-part backup story by Sean Daly, Usagi is stranded on a strange planet, where unbreakable crystals hide a dark
• 17:21
  Tad Eggleston: Secret.
• 17:23
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff of November 30th, and in stores on January 6th.
• 17:31
  Phil: Vampire on aisle six, number one.
• 17:33
  Tyler Johnson: You, yeah.
• 17:35
  Phil: Yep, Zoe Thorogood and Joe Whiteford over at Image Comics. Luca claims to be a vampire. He's trapped in a mascot-themed superstore, the sun won't set for another 10 hours, and he's just made his first kill. After being bitten by a mysterious man at the end of an unfortunate week, Luca begins experiencing vampiric symptoms, including a newfound bloodlust, a shattered reflection, and an unwillingness to go outside.
• 17:59
  Phil: His life begins unraveling, but not to worry. It's all just meat.
• 18:04
  Phil: It's gonna have a final cutoff of November 23rd in stores December 23rd.
• 18:09
  Phil: Next up, some graphic novels.
• 18:12
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Heat of Fashion from Lila Sturges and Natalie Nardoza from Mad Cave.
• 18:18
  Tyler Johnson: When Herring Arts and Design Magnet School royalty Ben Wilcox is assigned to work with Maverick and outsider Annie Jacobs, he's enthralled by her talent and her charms, and does whatever it takes.
• 18:32
  Tyler Johnson: to get her to like him, including lying about his dating history. They fall in love while working on their final senior project, but when Annie discovers Ben's lies, it doesn't just damage their relationship, it threatens to sink their senior project as well.
• 18:52
  Tyler Johnson: Final order cut off November 16, and in shops December 9th.
• 18:58
  Phil: Marble Cake from Scott Jason Smith over at Avery Hill Publishing. Tracy dreams of a life beyond South London, beyond her job at the supermarket, beyond what amounts to now.
• 19:08
  Phil: But in a city where everyone is living their own melodrama, where people are disappearing and being attacked with alarming regularity, and where existence overlaps and separates every turn, how can Tracy be sure she's the main character of her own life, not just a bit player in someone else's?
• 19:23
  Phil: In vivid, colorful artwork, Scott Jason Smith tells the story of a woman just turning 21 and starting to figure out her life. It's gonna have a final order cutoff of November 2nd in stores December 2nd.
• 19:37
  Tad Eggleston: This one is a reprint of a book that's been around for a while, but it's one of my favorites, so I wanted to, to.
• 19:44
  Tad Eggleston: Definitely draw attention to it. The Gashley Court.
• 19:49
  Tad Eggleston: Tinies by Edward Gorey at HarperCollins. Do you guys know Edward Gorey? I assume Tyler does.
• 19:56
  Phil: I do, yep.
• 19:57
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Did you ever watch Mystery?
• 20:01
  Tad Eggleston: Or you might not even be old enough to have watched Mystery on PBS, Phil.
• 20:04
  Phil: No. I loved it.
• 20:06
  Tyler Johnson: I loved it.
• 20:07
  Tad Eggleston: Did you remember the opening sequence?
• 20:09
  Tyler Johnson: Kind of. I was young in my, I worked here with my grandma. Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, that was… that was Edward Gorey. So good.
• 20:17
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 20:18
  Tad Eggleston: so good.
• 20:19
  Phil: So… Never mind.
• 20:23
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah, B is for Basil, assaulted by bears. C is for Clara, who wasted away. D is for Desmond, thrown out of a sleigh.
• 20:33
  Tad Eggleston: Vanity Fair's caused a striking small format illustrated edition of one of Edward Gorey's dark masterpieces of surreal morality.
• 20:42
  Tad Eggleston: A witting, disquieting journey through the alphabet.
• 20:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Gory's art is just.
• 20:50
  Tad Eggleston: phenomenal. You know, I don't know how to describe it.
• 20:56
  Tad Eggleston: Really, it's got a gothicness, it's…
• 20:59
  Tyler Johnson: and.
• 21:00
  Tad Eggleston: You know, he uses lots of hatching, but not a lot of cross-hatching.
• 21:06
  Tyler Johnson: Which takes a lot of effort, because if you're going to just do hatching.
• 21:11
  Tyler Johnson: You got to stay consistent. You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 21:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, no, it's just… Yeah, there's a gothic weirdness to it. It's, like…
• 21:22
  Tad Eggleston: Among artists that people might know.
• 21:26
  Tad Eggleston: that don't know Edward Gorey, it's got a Charles Adams feel.
• 21:32
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 21:32
  Tad Eggleston: Anybody who has read.
• 21:37
  Tad Eggleston: Any of Landis Blair's stuff other than the hunting project? The hunting project has… or the hunting…
• 21:44
  Tad Eggleston: The hunting project.
• 21:46
  Phil: Hunting accent.
• 21:47
  Tad Eggleston: The hunting accident. The hunting accident has some of it, but, but, like.
• 21:52
  Tad Eggleston: A lot of his short stuff has a much more Edward Gorey feel than the hunting accident does.
• 21:58
  Tad Eggleston: again, it's just, it's, like…
• 22:03
  Tad Eggleston: Eerie, gothic, and cool is how you describe Edward Gorey, I think.
• 22:08
  Tad Eggleston: So I have… I actually bought a copy of this book at Edward Gorey's house, which is a museum on Cape Cod.
• 22:19
  Tyler Johnson: Wow.
• 22:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, but it's cool to see it, getting a, a re-release.
• 22:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 22:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Tyler Johnson: That's pretty cool.
• 22:31
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, collections! Phil, what do you got?
• 22:34
  Phil: I got Batwoman 2026 from Greg Rucka, Danny, and Jeff Spokes.
• 22:40
  Tyler Johnson: I'm just kidding.
• 22:42
  Phil: Woman, daughter, sister, soldier, hero. Since she was 10 years old, Kate Kane has lived in the shadow of a prophecy held by the Dark Faith, a religion devoted to the end of all things. After a battle leads to tragedy, Batwoman travels to Petalon, Greece, to declare war on the Dark Faith like never before, and her brutality quickly begins raising alarms among friends and foes alike.
• 23:05
  Phil: Including the question, aka Renee Montoya and Kate's father, Colonel Jacob Kane. Amidst the battle to save all things, Kate must face the question, how to…
• 23:14
  Phil: How do you fight the devil when the devil is real? Claimed writer and co-creator of modern Batwoman Greg Rucker returns to the story of Kate Kane alongside visionary artist Danny for a DC Next Level series that redefines Batwoman and her mission for a new generation.
• 23:29
  Tyler Johnson: She's, she's Bruce's cousin, right?
• 23:32
  Phil: Yes.
• 23:33
  Tyler Johnson: On his mom's side, she was a cane.
• 23:36
  Phil: I believe so.
• 23:36
  Tad Eggleston: I think so.
• 23:37
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 23:37
  Phil: Something like that.
• 23:39
  Tyler Johnson: Cool.
• 23:40
  Tyler Johnson: All right, fort Psycho from Matt Kent and Brian Hurt from Oney.
• 23:45
  Tad Eggleston: It's so good.
• 23:46
  Tyler Johnson: It is, I'm reading it in issues, but I'm also gonna pick this up, because just for the artwork alone, you guys, the psychedelic… Anyway, 10 years ago, the nation of Singapore sank into the Pacific Ocean. The underground network known as the Seven Seals took credit for the largest act of terror in human history.
• 24:03
  Tyler Johnson: In the aftermath, the United Nations created a strike team of highly trained covert operatives with one mission. Locate, identify, and eliminate the Seven Seals secretive leader.
• 24:14
  Tyler Johnson: The team's clandestine affairs were to always remain in the shadows until their final explosive confrontation with the Seven Seals resulted in a large-scale tragedy too bloody to cover up and too tragic to ignore.
• 24:27
  Tyler Johnson: Disgraced and disavowed by the governments that trained them, the world's most dangerous secret agents have been convicted for their crimes and sentenced to serve time side by side in the same place capable of holding
• 24:41
  Tyler Johnson: In the one place capable of holding them, their old island headquarters, Fort Cyclone, now known in the media by the derogatory nickname Fort Psycho.
• 24:51
  Tyler Johnson: And that's where the official story is about to go terribly, terribly wrong.
• 24:55
  Tyler Johnson: This will be out November… or excuse me, final order cutoff is November 23rd, in stores December 15th.
• 25:06
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, the sickness from Jenna Cha and Lonnie Nadler, from Uncivilized Books. A teenager in 1945 is suffocated by post-World War II nationalism. A Tyler's doctor in 1955 desperately tries to find the origin of a new illness.
• 25:22
  Tad Eggleston: Though these two people are living seemingly disparate lives decades apart.
• 25:28
  Tad Eggleston: And they will come to understand that their fates are irrevocably intertwined by a rare, horrifying sickness, and an organic figure who follows them wherever they go. He is known only as The Man.
• 25:44
  Tad Eggleston: Convined within their eras, they each race across time to escape the man and find a cure before the sickness collapses their worlds. The rich and disturbing comic spans four decades of American history to serve as a reminder of the terrors of yesterday.
• 26:00
  Tad Eggleston: are the terrors of today. A sprawling, ambitious, and genre-bending work exploring the socio-political life that shaped the nation. It's a crossbreed of I Love Lucy-era pop culture and bizarre body horror in a historical horror epic.
• 26:16
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cutoff is November 16th, in stores on December 16th.
• 26:24
  Tad Eggleston: I read the first few issues of this, and it was so, so good. So I'm very much looking forward to…
• 26:31
  Tad Eggleston: reading it all together.
• 26:33
  Tyler Johnson: Sure, it looks really good.
• 26:35
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, who wants to take final order cutoff?
• 26:38
  Tyler Johnson: I will.
• 26:39
  Phil: Oh, you got it.
• 26:39
  Tyler Johnson: Okay, I got it. Final order cutoff for Monday, October 5th. Agony of Stars from Jim Owsley and Etienne Derefini. How do you pronounce that again? Derefinity?
• 26:52
  Phil: Take care.
• 26:53
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Red 5, coming out from Red 5 on November 18th. Batman Bad Seeds Gotham General from Greg Rucka and Rosa Ekadal from DC, October 28th.
• 27:03
  Tyler Johnson: Batman Bad Sea Sunrise from Matt Fraction, G. Willow Wilson, Yasipi Kamakoli, Cliff Rathburn, from DC on October 28th.
• 27:14
  Tyler Johnson: Berserker City of Darkness, number one from Mike Costa and Kelly Wong from Boom on November 18th. DC All-In Saga, Darkseid vs. the World, Scott Snyder, Joshua Williamson, Sanford Green, Yasmin, Putri? Putri?
• 27:33
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 27:33
  Tyler Johnson: Treat from DC on October 28th.
• 27:38
  Tyler Johnson: Detective from David Lapham and Maria Lapham, from Bad Idea, November 4th.
• 27:49
  Tyler Johnson: Howard Chinkin's American Flag Omnibus Hardcover.
• 27:54
  Tyler Johnson: By Howard Chaikin, from Image on February 17th.
• 27:57
  Tyler Johnson: Minor Threats, the Cleaner from Dark Horse, Jerry Duggan, Patton Oswald, Jordan Bloom, Mark Torres, comes out on November 11th, and I didn't put it in there, but I believe it is Image.
• 28:11
  Tad Eggleston: No, you said Dark Horse already.
• 28:13
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, it's from Dark Horse.
• 28:14
  Tad Eggleston: Wrong spot, man.
• 28:15
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I did, oh, I did put Durk in the wrong shot. Okay, Satanic Panic, from Matt Minor and Clay McCormick from Mad Cave comes out October 28th.
• 28:28
  Tyler Johnson: Crowdfunding!
• 28:30
  Phil: I got it. You get… there's, Louise Sprout Stole My Heart from Kyle Starks on Kickstarter through October 1st, Rigsby, Wisconsin Volume 3 Flux from SE Case and Iron Circus on Kickstarter through October 8th, Shrub, the Collected Edition from Shane Portman, Andy Alves, and Fanbase Press on Kickstarter through October 8th, My Neighbor Necromancer No. 4 from Dylan Gilbertson on
• 28:55
  Phil: Kickstarter through October 9th.
• 28:57
  Phil: Death of Comics Bookcase, Reign of the Comic Bookcases from Zach Quaintance and, four different artists, I believe, on Kickstarter through October 15th. You Never Know, number 2, from Elliot Mondry, Alicia Madden, and Calamity Comics on Kickstarter through October 15th. Lady Mechanica, Demon Sea, Part 1 from Joe…
• 29:16
  Phil: Benitez and J.T. Kroll and Martin Montiel on Kickstarter through October 16th, and launching soon, there's the Tezuka God of Manga documentary from Jason Cohn, which will be on Kickstarter, as well as Dracula, Book 4, The Undead from Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones, and Orlok Press, which will be on Kickstarter as well, as, Dregs from Quarterly Sci-Fi and Fantasy Comic… it's a quarterly sci-fi
• 29:41
  Phil: fantasy comic book magazine, from international indie creators.
• 29:46
  Phil: Tom Kaczynski at Uncivilized… And…
• 29:50
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, Dregs launched Friday. So, so, so we need to move that one. That's my fault.
• 29:57
  Phil: That one's on Kickstarter now. Check out Drake.
• 29:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:59
  Phil: Still coming soon is Sync, number 18, Pineapple from John Lee's and Alex Cormick, Comics Tribe, which will also be on Kickstarter. And then, we've got Humble Bundles.
• 30:11
  Tad Eggleston: I actually.
• 30:11
  Tyler Johnson: Bundles. You want to do this, Ken?
• 30:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I will, but I was… I actually talked to Tom Kaczynski earlier today with my brother Peter for… 22 panels, so that will go up soon.
• 30:23
  Tad Eggleston: Humble Bundles! We've got the Valiant Mega Bundle has been extended.
• 30:27
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, wait, I forgot to take this one out. This one hasn't been extended. The Valiant Mega Bundle has been extended $20 for 105 items for the Book Industry Charitable Foundation through October 3rd. The image in the 20s Mega Bundle, $25 for 70 items for the Book Industry Charitable Foundation has been extended to noon on September 28th. So if you're listening to this
• 30:52
  Tad Eggleston: Episode soon after release, it is still available.
• 30:56
  Tad Eggleston: Kurt Busiek's Astro City, the 30th anniversary, $18 for 22 items for the Book Industry Charitable Foundation, through October 6th.
• 31:06
  Tad Eggleston: This… this may be even better than the two humanoids.
• 31:10
  Tad Eggleston: bundles we've had recently. 50 essential…
• 31:14
  Phil: Wow.
• 31:15
  Tad Eggleston: Pantographics titles. $25 for 51 items, because they also included the
• 31:21
  Tad Eggleston: The zine canon devoted an entire issue.
• 31:25
  Tad Eggleston: to the history of Phanographics, and it is also included.
• 31:29
  Tad Eggleston: off.
• 31:30
  Tad Eggleston: To benefit the Freedom of Press Foundation through October 7th.
• 31:34
  Tad Eggleston: That includes… oh my god, it's, it's a, it's a murderer's row of… Just… amazing.
• 31:45
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's got both volumes of… Of,
• 31:51
  Tad Eggleston: My favorite thing is monsters, it's got…
• 31:57
  Tad Eggleston: Trying to pull it up, it's taking too long! There we go.
• 32:04
  Tad Eggleston: It's got Bottomless Bellybutton from Dash Shaw, it's got Wally Wood's Cannon.
• 32:11
  Tad Eggleston: Ezra Clayton Daniels and Ben Passmore's Bottom Feeders. It's got both volumes of Castle Waiting from Linda Medley. It's got a couple of books from Brianna Lowenson. It's got the first volumes of both Beto and
• 32:25
  Tad Eggleston: Jaime's…
• 32:27
  Tad Eggleston: Love and Rockets stuff, it's got the complete hip-hop family tree, Eleanor Davis, How to Be Happy, How to Read Nancy, and the Elements of Comics, and 3 panels from, Paul Karasik and…
• 32:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:43
  Tad Eggleston: Paul Karasik and Mark Newgarden.
• 32:46
  Tad Eggleston: The complete humbug?
• 32:49
  Tad Eggleston: From from.
• 32:49
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 32:50
  Tad Eggleston: We should move out of the bathroom.
• 32:51
  Tyler Johnson: Man.
• 32:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just so many great things in this.
• 32:57
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, it's gonna be… it would be awesome to get that one.
• 32:59
  Tad Eggleston: Early Usagi Yojimbo?
• 33:01
  Phil: Wow.
• 33:03
  Tad Eggleston: Like the first seven volumes, the Eat or Not.
• 33:06
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Lots and lots of…
• 33:10
  Tad Eggleston: Fantastic books for 25 bucks. And then there's a Batman Day Comics Bundle, $20 for 31 items, primarily…
• 33:20
  Tad Eggleston: The stuff that has come out in.
• 33:24
  Tad Eggleston: the last…
• 33:26
  Tad Eggleston: Couple of years, so really picking up from after Tom King's run. Though it also, I believe, has… the… the Nightfall saga, probably because they, they.
• 33:40
  Tyler Johnson: Because of Bain, probably?
• 33:42
  Tad Eggleston: Well, he also has, Snyder's New 52, so… so probably because Snyder is doing the Absolute Batman, it's got his New 52.
• 33:52
  Tad Eggleston: I forget if it's got Absolute Batman… oh, it's… no, it doesn't have… well…
• 33:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's got Absolute Batman. It also has No Man's Land.
• 34:02
  Phil: Cool.
• 34:04
  Tyler Johnson: That's interesting.
• 34:05
  Tad Eggleston: No Man's Land and Hush, not Nightfall. I thought I had Nightfall, which just came out as a cartoon, and that would have made it… made sense to me. But no, it's No Man's Land. And then Zdarsky's run, Ram V's run.
• 34:19
  Tad Eggleston: all… well, not all of Snyder's stuff, but both Absolute Batman and New 52 Batman from Snyder.
• 34:26
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 34:29
  Tad Eggleston: And… Batman Hush.
• 34:33
  Tad Eggleston: I think that's what it has.
• 34:35
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, it's a really good selection.
• 34:38
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 34:39
  Phil: I'm just checking, because I'm imagining that, like, if the absolute universe was, like, the new 52 universe, just, like, left in the, like, out of the spotlight too long, that's what happened to all the… anyway.
• 34:50
  Tad Eggleston: So… Yeah, but it's a really good selection, but it's also kind of a…
• 34:57
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know, it feels like an… Odd selection to me. Correct.
• 35:02
  Tyler Johnson: I agree.
• 35:03
  Tad Eggleston: I can't figure out what the specific rhyme or reason was.
• 35:06
  Tyler Johnson: You know, there's so many things to include in there, you know, death in the family.
• 35:12
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 35:12
  Tyler Johnson: So that would have been pretty.
• 35:13
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and it doesn't have any Miller, it doesn't have any Tom King. Nope.
• 35:17
  Tyler Johnson: And then, as you can see from my list in a little bit, it doesn't have any Wagner on it.
• 35:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it doesn't… doesn't have any Wagner, it doesn't have any, Grant Morrison.
• 35:28
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 35:29
  Tad Eggleston: Doesn't have any Sean Murphy.
• 35:32
  Phil: You'd think for someone with Bruce Wayne's bank account, he could be a little more generous with the Batman comics.
• 35:38
  Tyler Johnson: I know.
• 35:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:39
  Tyler Johnson: You know, all right.
• 35:41
  Tad Eggleston: You're not wrong.
• 35:44
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, let's do… we got… Amazing books.
• 35:46
  Tad Eggleston: There were so many great, amazing books this week. Yeah. And I didn't even manage to read as many of them as I would like.
• 35:53
  Tad Eggleston: Like, I haven't gotten to… to Fort Psycho number 2. Well, no, I got to Fort Psycho number 2, it just barely missed my list. I haven't gotten to Junk Punch number 4, I haven't gotten to Eye Collector number 4, I haven't gotten to…
• 36:09
  Tad Eggleston: Last ride number 2.
• 36:12
  Tad Eggleston: Star Trek number one also just missed my list. As did… as did.
• 36:18
  Tad Eggleston: Well, no, that's on your list, so I won't say anything about it. But my list, that Texas blood, hell comes to Allison Ranch, Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips, they just… they kick it. They kick it every time.
• 36:30
  Tyler Johnson: you.
• 36:31
  Tad Eggleston: Also really, really good and fucking hilarious was Crimes Against Nature No. 1 from Elliot Rahal and Mattia Monaco. at Image, and Yumi00X No. 2 from Doug Wagner and Hoyt Silva, also at Image. What'd you like, Tyler?
• 36:52
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, I liked a lot of stuff, but, Dork number 8 was really good from Brett Bean.
• 37:00
  Tyler Johnson: just continues to be such a funny… it's not really sword and sandal, it's more like… it's like comical Lord of the Rings, but you got this half… half orc, half goblin traveling around with a talking shield and a dead bird, and then…
• 37:17
  Phil: He's half orc, half I thought he was half orc, half dwarf.
• 37:19
  Tyler Johnson: Have Dwarf, yep, yep, yep, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then Black Tower, The Raven Conspiracy number 2, from Ram V and Mike Perkins from, Vertigo is really good. The second issue here is just really starting to…
• 37:35
  Tyler Johnson: catch my interest. The first issue was a little bit of a intro, so it was kind of a slow burn, but this one, I'm on board.
• 37:43
  Tyler Johnson: Exquisite Corpses, Rascal Randy, that rabbit. Number 3, Tyler Boss and Dylan Burnett and Jordi Belair from Image, I'm pretty sure I forgot to put it on there. But, yeah, Tad, have you been reading Exquisite Corpses?
• 37:59
  Tad Eggleston: I am behind on exquisite corpses.
• 38:02
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 38:03
  Tyler Johnson: How are you?
• 38:03
  Tad Eggleston: There will come a day where I binge it all.
• 38:08
  Tyler Johnson: Bill, are you reading it?
• 38:09
  Phil: I… I have not, no, but I…
• 38:11
  Tad Eggleston: Because I love all.
• 38:12
  Phil: couple.
• 38:12
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I love all the people involved, and, like, I think I've read the first 5 issues, and then just kinda fell off, and keep meaning to take a day and catch up. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Phil: Well, the guy…
• 38:26
  Tyler Johnson: So, the,
• 38:29
  Tyler Johnson: You know, the premise of the original series was, you know, this game, filled with, you know, killers, and one of the killers has escaped the game, and nobody really took, took.
• 38:40
  Tyler Johnson: full… full count of all the dead bodies, so Rascal Randy's still out there.
• 38:46
  Phil: Oh, interesting.
• 38:48
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Anyway, Phil, walk with Phil.
• 38:51
  Phil: Yeah, so first of all, I want to say, thanks for having me, guys. I'm always happy to be here. Thanks for not kicking me off the podcast, like, like I was kind of.
• 38:59
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, what happened?
• 39:00
  Phil: So, okay, so, I mean, I went to Portland last week, and…
• 39:04
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Phil: Weirdly enough, my, you know, at first when we were out there, I was like, wow, my phone is acting terribly, like, no… just…
• 39:11
  Phil: terrible internet, really slow, and my wife was like, oh yeah, mine worked way better after I turned it off and on again. So I did that, and it worked. And then, I forgot to do that when I came back to Tennessee, and I didn't think, you know, so, like, I had just sent you a text on Sunday, you know, the picture of American Nature Presents number 4.
• 39:30
  Tyler Johnson: Correct.
• 39:30
  Phil: laws out there, and I didn't hear anything from you, so I was like, oh, okay, I guess… guess, no reaction to that, that's okay, you know?
• 39:38
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 39:39
  Phil: And… but I mean, I'm sure you did, because I just didn't see anything.
• 39:42
  Tad Eggleston: so.
• 39:43
  Phil: So then, by, you know,
• 39:46
  Phil: I think it was, like, Friday night, I was like, oh, hey, wow, the guys haven't said anything about when to record, you know? So that's why I was like, so we're doing Sunday, right? And.
• 39:55
  Tyler Johnson: So did you like when you feel?
• 39:58
  Tad Eggleston: For the record, in between that, there was…
• 40:04
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler… Tyler sent the Oh Joy…
• 40:08
  Tyler Johnson: and Stimpy.
• 40:09
  Tad Eggleston: and Stimpy gif for the American Nature. And then Thursday, I wrote, Sunday evening would be best for me this week, but I can probably do Sunday morning if I need to. Tyler said Sunday evening works for me. I said, thoughts on great responsibility. He said, is there any interest in us choosing our favorite Batman run slash arc slash event, since Batman Day was Saturday?
• 40:32
  Tad Eggleston: I have voice actors from Overwatch in my store tonight doing signings, and he sent pictures of that.
• 40:37
  Tad Eggleston: I said favorite Batman works for me. And then.
• 40:41
  Tyler Johnson: the.
• 40:41
  Phil: Yes, yes.
• 40:43
  Tad Eggleston: We got so.
• 40:44
  Phil: So I, I, I saw none of.
• 40:46
  Tad Eggleston: Sunday?
• 40:47
  Phil: I… yeah.
• 40:49
  Phil: I found this.
• 40:50
  Tyler Johnson: This is funny because you wrote, so I take it we're potting Sunday. And then Tad wrote, yep.
• 40:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 40:55
  Tyler Johnson: And then and then Phil, everything all right? You guys okay? Tad Tad sent Tad sent a picture of himself and said yes. Do you?
• 41:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's right, that's right, you didn't get the yep, did you?
• 41:06
  Phil: I didn't get the yellow.
• 41:07
  Tad Eggleston: Friday night, so you came in Saturday morning, and you're like, everything alright? You guys okay?
• 41:12
  Tyler Johnson: then.
• 41:12
  Tad Eggleston: of Dennis Kitchen and I.
• 41:14
  Tyler Johnson: Yo, and then it says, yes, did you not see the messages?
• 41:18
  Phil: And that's what… and so it was, it was, it was, like, Sunday night, Sunday.
• 41:22
  Tyler Johnson: So then I called you, Phil. Yeah. When I read Tad's, did you not get our messages? I called you. I don't know if you got that.
• 41:30
  Phil: Nope, I did not. So that's the funny thing.
• 41:32
  Tad Eggleston: See, I was just assuming that what happened is you got so caught up in the Overwatch, you didn't realize that there'd been a discussion before it.
• 41:38
  Phil: No, no.
• 41:39
  Tad Eggleston: We were kind of brief with stuff.
• 41:41
  Phil: I saw none.
• 41:43
  Phil: So that it was at 8… 8 p.m. Sun… Saturday, 8 p.m.
• 41:48
  Phil: that I receive all those messages in, like, a flurry. When I turn my phone off, I turn it back on again, because what happened is I went out to pick up dinner, and I came back and punched in my code to, to get in the gate, you know, it sends a call to my phone, and then it opens it, but it just went right to messages, and I was like, oh, that's bad.
• 42:05
  Phil: That's bad. Maybe I should turn my phone off and on again and see what happens. But it's so weird, because I was able to text my wife okay, I was able to text my parents okay, you know?
• 42:14
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know.
• 42:16
  Phil: So yeah, so it's just you guys, yeah, and just nothing, and then all, like, a week, all of that, all that, all the pictures, everything, just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, you know, and then all of a sudden at the end, yes, did you not see the messages where we decided this on Thursday? And I was like.
• 42:29
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 42:30
  Phil: Oh no, I did not.
• 42:31
  Tyler Johnson: You're like, you son of a I didn't know that!
• 42:34
  Phil: So there was like, you know, it was one of those where it's like, did someone have a medical emergency?
• 42:38
  Tyler Johnson: I'm sorry.
• 42:39
  Phil: 5.
• 42:40
  Tyler Johnson: We had nothing to do with that, but I'm sorry you went through that. Thank you.
• 42:44
  Tad Eggleston: I was… I was hanging out with Dennis Kitchen.
• 42:48
  Tyler Johnson: Nice! I was… I was doing voice actors.
• 42:50
  Tad Eggleston: I knew I wasn't gonna get enough stuff read before…
• 42:54
  Phil: I'm wet.
• 42:55
  Tad Eggleston: it before 7 o'clock tonight, so, you know…
• 42:58
  Phil: Totally fine, totally, you know…
• 43:00
  Tyler Johnson: We're both answering, we're both going back and forth.
• 43:03
  Phil: Right.
• 43:03
  Tyler Johnson: Really?
• 43:04
  Phil: Phil… Phil, okay, that's the real question.
• 43:07
  Tyler Johnson: I just I well, that's why I called you when when I saw Tad.
• 43:11
  Tad Eggleston: And I figured you were on a new job, you were paying attention, but you were busy, I didn't think too hard about it.
• 43:19
  Phil: It's okay. All right.
• 43:20
  Tyler Johnson: Hey.
• 43:21
  Phil: I also… I picked up, Garden of Spheres by Linnea Sturt, and…
• 43:28
  Tad Eggleston: You mean the one that I ordered because Alex DeCampi told me to?
• 43:32
  Phil: Yeah, and I didn't order it at the time, because I couldn't control myself with Piao Piao's.
• 43:36
  Tad Eggleston: student.
• 43:37
  Phil: You know, like, I… it would have been, like, $200 worth of comics, so I'd.
• 43:40
  Tad Eggleston: No, I understand, I understand. It was hard, it was hard.
• 43:43
  Phil: It was great to pick it up off the shelf at Floating World.
• 43:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Phil: And then I…
• 43:48
  Tad Eggleston: Tech and concrete is great.
• 43:50
  Phil: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Tad Eggleston: It's still like my least favorite Tayo Matsumoto.
• 43:53
  Phil: Well, it's also… it's, like, the earliest of his works that have been translated, so that's why I wanted to start there. I've read a little bit of number 5, but didn't finish it, but I'd want to go back to it. The page was.
• 44:03
  Tad Eggleston: ascend.
• 44:04
  Phil: horse drawing on the same page is incredible.
• 44:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 44:08
  Phil: But yeah, were you still… you were still becomed in a… I was.
• 44:11
  Tad Eggleston: calm this week. It was a busy week.
• 44:13
  Phil: And despite, despite those, those exciting things I picked up, the first thing I read still was, when I
• 44:20
  Phil: because it showed up at the library while I was in Portland, and so the day I get back that night, it was set to be returned, and so I had to get Smoking Behind the Supermarket with You Volume 7 and read it right then and there, because…
• 44:31
  Tad Eggleston: And then there you go.
• 44:32
  Phil: Yeah, I'm fully caught up now. I am… I am, you know, shaking mild convulsions. Volume 8 comes out in November. You know, but I do… but the, Volume 3 of Goodnight Pun Pun has just showed up at the library, so that'll be…
• 44:46
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, such a good…
• 44:47
  Phil: Yeah! That's… that's what's, I'll have to get in requests for volumes 4 through 7 faster, but yeah, that's what's on my horizon. So a whole lot of manga, apparently.
• 44:57
  Tyler Johnson: It does.
• 44:58
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway.
• 44:59
  Tyler Johnson: All right. Well, our great responsibility for this week was Best Batman Runs in honor of Batman Day on Saturday and Batman Week that we just kind of finished up. I went with Batman the New 52, specifically the Court of Owls arc.
• 45:17
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't actually read all of the new 52. I think I read the first Court of Owls, but I don't remember. It's been a while.
• 45:24
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 45:25
  Tyler Johnson: Well, Batman was in this delirium in this maze, you know, with a minotaur, that the… in the Court of Owls were watching him just kind of, you know, devolve into…
• 45:39
  Tyler Johnson: Just an animal from,
• 45:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 45:42
  Tyler Johnson: paranoia from… he was being drugged, he was… it was… it was just so psychologically bizarre, that I just loved it.
• 45:51
  Phil: upside down. It was crazy. Yeah.
• 45:53
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Yep.
• 45:55
  Tyler Johnson: And do you guys remember Batman and Robin, the Grant Morrison, Frank Whiteley?
• 45:59
  Tad Eggleston: 2.
• 45:59
  Phil: I was gonna…
• 46:00
  Tad Eggleston: I love all of Grant Morrison's run.
• 46:02
  Phil: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Tyler Johnson: I know, that was so…
• 46:04
  Tad Eggleston: Carson's run was great, but I think Batman and Robin was my favorite part of it.
• 46:07
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, I mean, when…
• 46:08
  Tad Eggleston: So my favorite.
• 46:09
  Tyler Johnson: When Damien came on the scene and it was Dick Grayson, it was so good.
• 46:13
  Tad Eggleston: Did you read the original Super Sons in the Reborn era?
• 46:19
  Tad Eggleston: Peter Tomasi?
• 46:21
  Tyler Johnson: The.
• 46:21
  Tad Eggleston: That is my favorite Robin.
• 46:24
  Phil: Really?
• 46:24
  Tad Eggleston: My favorite Damien.
• 46:25
  Tad Eggleston: is… it's Damien and John Kent before John Kent got aged up by Bendis. Yeah.
• 46:32
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 46:32
  Tad Eggleston: So John's actually a little bit younger than Damien, and they just play off of each other so well.
• 46:39
  Tyler Johnson: Really?
• 46:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 46:41
  Tyler Johnson: And then…
• 46:42
  Tad Eggleston: I think my favorite, my favorite issue was, I think it was issue 5, they were grounded.
• 46:47
  Phil: That's funny.
• 46:48
  Tad Eggleston: Blaming each other for it.
• 46:50
  Tyler Johnson: Hawaii, yeah.
• 46:50
  Phil: Funny. I'm still… I still… I still… my favorite Damien. It's hard for me… it's like…
• 46:55
  Phil: It's like Morrison's Damien, and everybody else is Damien. It's like two different characters, almost.
• 47:01
  Tad Eggleston: It is a little bit.
• 47:02
  Tyler Johnson: But, but, Batman and the Monster Men from Matt Wagner.
• 47:07
  Tyler Johnson: was my first introduction to Matt Wagner's work, and I thought it was just awesome. And so, getting to read his other stuff, later was like, oh my god, how did I not even know what this was? But Batman and the Monster Men was a great story, but more so because that's where it got onto Matt.
• 47:27
  Phil: Nice.
• 47:27
  Tad Eggleston: Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones, Dracula will be Dracula Book 4.
• 47:33
  Tad Eggleston: The Undead will be launching soon on Kickstarter, I think October 1st. So, Keep your eyes open.
• 47:41
  Tad Eggleston: For me… it was clearly gonna be Tom King up top. I mean, Tyler would have beat my ass if it wasn't Tom King off top.
• 47:52
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I probably…
• 47:53
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think our first major edit on an episode was when I went on, like, a 45-minute tirade about how he was nuts not to like the Tom King run on Batman.
• 48:06
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 48:07
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, we…
• 48:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 48:09
  Tyler Johnson: It was I really triggered something when I'm like, yeah.
• 48:12
  Tad Eggleston: You caught me.
• 48:13
  Tyler Johnson: the.
• 48:13
  Tad Eggleston: day, because I do recall, like, when you first, you wound up texting me and saying, are you okay? I hope I didn't make you too mad.
• 48:24
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 48:24
  Tad Eggleston: You're like, do you really think we need to publish that? Yeah.
• 48:29
  Tyler Johnson: That's funny. But no, you know, I had just, I had just said I really didn't enjoy Tom King's run on it because of it.
• 48:39
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 48:40
  Tyler Johnson: different thing than just it just got drug out to the Catwoman thing. Well, I think you.
• 48:44
  Tad Eggleston: You were also much more upset by the fact that the wedding didn't happen than I was.
• 48:49
  Tyler Johnson: I was, yep, that was right after the wedding. And then I.
• 48:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 48:52
  Tyler Johnson: You know what?
• 48:53
  Tad Eggleston: They hadn't gotten into City of Bane yet. Correct. They're just sitting there going…
• 48:58
  Phil: I gave up. I gave up on the first issue of City of Bane.
• 49:02
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, City of Bane was great.
• 49:05
  Phil: Yeah.
• 49:06
  Tyler Johnson: See, I was, I'm kind of with you, Phil, like, anyway, so that was the conversation, and Tad and Tad was bound and determined to show me why Tom King was amazing, which I agreed he was. I just didn't like the Batman stuff, you know, but that's.
• 49:23
  Phil: Well.
• 49:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and, and, and, you know, I was actually kind of… I was actually kind of thinking of that when… because I wonder…
• 49:30
  Tad Eggleston: I wonder at what point Tom
• 49:34
  Tad Eggleston: Found out that he wasn't gonna let… or he wasn't gonna be able to do his… Catwoman.
• 49:42
  Tyler Johnson: Batman.
• 49:43
  Tad Eggleston: and.
• 49:43
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Yep, I know.
• 49:45
  Tad Eggleston: Because.
• 49:46
  Tyler Johnson: He was like…
• 49:46
  Tad Eggleston: As I… as I thought about it, I mean, A, the, the, the, well, 13 issue, because it had the, the, the Christmas special.
• 49:56
  Tad Eggleston: Batman Catwoman really is my favorite Tom King Batman.
• 50:02
  Tad Eggleston: you know, going back and forth in time. It's got some great Bruce Wayne stuff, it's got some great Selena Kyle stuff. It's…
• 50:10
  Tad Eggleston: Got their relationship at the end of their relationship.
• 50:16
  Tad Eggleston: You know, which is why it was a Black Label title, you know.
• 50:22
  Tad Eggleston: And, you know, I mean, Tom King and Clay Mann did most of it, but the parts that weren't done by Tom King and Clay Mann, I think Liam Sharp stepped in for an issue, and… Yep. And, the… the…
• 50:36
  Tad Eggleston: the annual slash Christmas special that was…
• 50:40
  Tad Eggleston: literally John Paul Leone's final work.
• 50:44
  Tad Eggleston: And most of the pages.
• 50:47
  Tad Eggleston: finished by… Various friends of his.
• 50:50
  Tad Eggleston: You know, he'd done the penciling and some of the… but, you know.
• 50:56
  Tad Eggleston: Just made that series so special in so many ways.
• 51:01
  Tad Eggleston: Like, it represents the Batman that I want to exist.
• 51:05
  Tad Eggleston: That I don't know how you make him exist for a long-term series, which I think is probably why…
• 51:16
  Tad Eggleston: really why DC made the decision to move it.
• 51:20
  Tad Eggleston: to Black Label, is, like, how… how do you have that new dichotomy where Batman… where the Bat family is really a family?
• 51:29
  Tad Eggleston: without aging them.
• 51:32
  Tad Eggleston: Because suddenly, like, time…
• 51:35
  Tad Eggleston: Matters in so much more of a way than it does when it's just an action comic.
• 51:42
  Tad Eggleston: But I love that. Likewise, I love the other end. I love Batman Year One. Frank Miller and Davis Mazzicelli is just a work of brilliance.
• 51:52
  Tad Eggleston: And then the thing that I think makes the universe.
• 51:56
  Tad Eggleston: Or one of the things that just absolutely makes the universe itself so special is, Edgar Baker, Greg Rucka, and Michael Lark's Gotham Central. Which is…
• 52:05
  Phil: One of the best comics ever.
• 52:08
  Tad Eggleston: Right, just fleshes… fleshes out the entire universe.
• 52:13
  Tad Eggleston: Huge props to all of Grant Morrison's work, huge props to all of Scott Snyder's work.
• 52:19
  Tad Eggleston: James Tynion has done great stuff in the Batman universe. Obviously, Danny O'Neil has done stuff, great stuff in the Batman universe.
• 52:29
  Tad Eggleston: Batman has probably had more really good major events than anybody. Like, No Man's Land was really solid across, like, a hundred issues.
• 52:40
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 52:40
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the… Bruce Wayne fugitive, the Bruce Wayne murderer, the… I mean… so many cross…
• 52:49
  Tad Eggleston: Title events that actually worked?
• 52:54
  Tad Eggleston: you know, it's kind of amazing that there are…
• 52:59
  Tad Eggleston: so many great Batman comics, given how many Batman comics there are.
• 53:05
  Tad Eggleston: There have been so many great Batman miniseries, you know, long before Zdarsky had…
• 53:12
  Tad Eggleston: like, the… his actual Batman run, he had, what was it, Batman… first.
• 53:19
  Phil: AOC.
• 53:19
  Tad Eggleston: if.
• 53:20
  Phil: Yeah, it was something like that. Something like that?
• 53:22
  Tad Eggleston: rules.
• 53:22
  Phil: Is.
• 53:23
  Tad Eggleston: Actually, him, like, learning and solving a mystery.
• 53:25
  Phil: Yeah.
• 53:26
  Tad Eggleston: early-ons.
• 53:27
  Phil: With carbon…
• 53:28
  Tad Eggleston: Almost could be…
• 53:29
  Phil: And come on.
• 53:29
  Tad Eggleston: Batman year 1.6?
• 53:32
  Tyler Johnson: You're.
• 53:33
  Phil: Or zero. I think it's something like that, I don't know.
• 53:35
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, it was… it felt like it was after…
• 53:40
  Tad Eggleston: Year 1, but before year 2?
• 53:45
  Phil: Yeah, I just I gave up on the New fifty two in the middle of the zero year. I was just like, it's going, it's been going on way too long. Plus that then they they were going to do a weekly series that he was also.
• 53:57
  Tad Eggleston: right.
• 53:58
  Phil: Head in, and I was like, that's too much Batman for me.
• 54:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I've been told that the Batman Eternal, which was the…
• 54:04
  Phil: I heard it's good, too.
• 54:04
  Tad Eggleston: Weekly series is one.
• 54:06
  Phil: the.
• 54:07
  Tad Eggleston: best runs of Batman you could ever read, and I just haven't… I haven't read it yet.
• 54:12
  Phil: Yeah, I ever, you know, it's, it's.
• 54:14
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, it's really amazing the amount of great Batman work that's been done. That's what I'm gonna say before kicking it to Phil so we can actually get out of here at a reasonable time.
• 54:24
  Phil: This is… this is where, I'm gonna introduce some controversy to the podcast, and I'm gonna say that, my favorite depiction of Batman is probably Batman Beyond Return of the Joker. I know it's a movie, I know it… Oh.
• 54:37
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Mask of the Phantom.
• 54:39
  Tyler Johnson: so.
• 54:39
  Tad Eggleston: It's better, but, you know…
• 54:40
  Tyler Johnson: I'm not sure.
• 54:42
  Phil: I need to rewatch Mask of Phantasm, it's good, but Return of the Joker. Return of the Joker's my all-time favorite, and then I love Batwoman by, you know, Rucka, and then the continuation by Williams and Blackman, that was, you know.
• 54:52
  Tyler Johnson: Yep, awesome.
• 54:53
  Phil: a fantastic one. And, I could not leave us
• 54:57
  Phil: talking about Batman without Adam West, because that Batman movie, the Adam West Batman movie, is basically how I want every… Turn into!
• 55:06
  Tad Eggleston: either.
• 55:06
  Tyler Johnson: You have to tell.
• 55:07
  Tad Eggleston: People that I was Batman, I showed up and they knew that I was Batman.
• 55:11
  Phil: Exactly. You know, some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.
• 55:15
  Tyler Johnson: The shark retaliator guys.
• 55:18
  Phil: Yes.
• 55:19
  Tad Eggleston: He said in, big Bang Theory. Such a great line. I got it.
• 55:26
  Tyler Johnson: Well, because, well, because Christian Bale kept saying, I'm Batman. And he goes.
• 55:31
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and they were ranking their Batmans in front of.
• 55:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 55:34
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, everybody was putting… I think it was Howard was going, but he's… I'm Batman! Well, I didn't have to tell anybody that I was Batman.
• 55:44
  Tyler Johnson: Everybody showed up!
• 55:45
  Tad Eggleston: And they knew I was Batman.
• 55:47
  Phil: He's still the number three because the all time best Batman is Kevin Conroy. So, you know.
• 55:52
  Tyler Johnson: I think so.
• 55:53
  Phil: Absolutely.
• 55:55
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I think it's much harder to define the all-time best Batman than it is to define the all-time best Joker.
• 56:02
  Tad Eggleston: All-time best joker is clearly Mark Hamill.
• 56:05
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. Yes, correct, yeah.
• 56:07
  Tad Eggleston: And then it's a… then it's a toss-up between Heath Ledger and Cesar Romero.
• 56:12
  Phil: That's fair.
• 56:13
  Tyler Johnson: Really? You would go Caesar Romero?
• 56:15
  Phil: Cesar Romero's pretty good.
• 56:17
  Tyler Johnson: I mean, why he wouldn't even shave that mustache for his character.
• 56:20
  Phil: That's why. That's why. It defines the character and it like warps his face in a way.
• 56:27
  Tad Eggleston: any.
• 56:28
  Phil: makes him look just the tiniest bit weird and a tiniest bit creepy.
• 56:32
  Tad Eggleston: And he just, he managed…
• 56:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I agree.
• 56:35
  Tad Eggleston: Like, like…
• 56:37
  Tad Eggleston: Silly and wild, I mean… Yeah. Like, this is an era where the… this is… this is, like, the pre…
• 56:48
  Tad Eggleston: Killing Joke era.
• 56:50
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, yep.
• 56:51
  Tad Eggleston: And still, like, if you're really paying attention, that Joker's really fucking twisted.
• 56:58
  Phil: Oh, I bet.
• 56:59
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I'm gonna go back and rewatch it. Is it streaming anywhere? Not the movie.
• 57:03
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if it is.
• 57:05
  Phil: Probably. I'd have to check, but yeah.
• 57:09
  Phil: But yeah, because anyway, I need to get my mom to read Gossip Central. That's the ultimate.
• 57:14
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 57:14
  Phil: if.
• 57:14
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 57:15
  Phil: Great comic. Yeah. If she enjoys it. Anyway, Tad, what are… what three books do you hope will be spectacular?
• 57:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, surprisingly, I haven't read Mind Management number 4, New and Improved, yet.
• 57:26
  Phil: I.
• 57:28
  Tad Eggleston: I have it, the digital copy, but like I said earlier, I haven't read all the books that I wanted to read for this week, so I haven't gotten into as many in next week's. So it's… it leads my list, followed by American Caper number 11.
• 57:41
  Tad Eggleston: From Dan Houser, Laszlo, David Lapham at Dark Horse. Anybody who doesn't know, it's Matt Kent doing mind management. And then Bleeding Hearts number 8 from Dennis Camp and Stippin Morian at DC Vertigo. Things I already know are spectacular, Phantographics has a couple of books coming out. One is.
• 57:59
  Tad Eggleston: Collected edition.
• 58:01
  Tad Eggleston: Second collection of, The Perils of Giuseppe Bergman from Milo Minera, The Magnificent African Adventure, and the other is, Noah Van Skyver's new graphic novel, The Mess.
• 58:15
  Tad Eggleston: The Magnificent African Adventure, about half of it was… was stuff that Paul Pope recommended the last time he was on the air, and we talked to… or I talked to Noah Van Skyver about the mess recently. I'm really excited for it. I'm also excited, though I don't know that I can afford them right away, but I'm hoping they pop up on.
• 58:34
  Tad Eggleston: on… Marvel Unlimited, the Further Adventures of Indiana Jones are being collected for the first time by Marvel.
• 58:46
  Tad Eggleston: As I was saying off-air when… when… when Phil was a little surprised that, like, I was so excited, like, Walt Simonson, David Michelini, John Byrne, Denny O'Neill, Archie Goodwin, John Buscema, Butch Guice.
• 59:01
  Tad Eggleston: Ron Friends, Howard Chaikin, David Mazzicelli, Herb Trimpe, Christopher Priest, Larry Lieber.
• 59:09
  Tad Eggleston: Steve Ditko.
• 59:12
  Tad Eggleston: Are among the people involved
• 59:15
  Tad Eggleston: In those comics, it's really kind of a who's who of… 70s and 80s… comic talent.
• 59:25
  Tad Eggleston: did some of those stories. Also, we have the Collected Peep Show.
• 59:31
  Tad Eggleston: And, the adaptation of John Kennedy Tools, Confederacy of Dunces by Errol Montes are things that I'm really excited for.
• 59:40
  Tad Eggleston: Next week.
• 59:41
  Tad Eggleston: So, Phil… or, Tyler, did you want to do any… Things that you're excited for?
• 59:48
  Tyler Johnson: I am not… I haven't even looked, I haven't even looked what's coming out. I'm okay.
• 59:53
  Phil: I don't hate it anymore.
• 59:54
  Tad Eggleston: also.
• 59:55
  Tyler Johnson: really.
• 59:56
  Tad Eggleston: in there.
• 59:57
  Tyler Johnson: It's weird, it's weird, you're not wrong, Phil. I just, like, oh yeah, that came out. Bleeding Hearts, I am very much looking forward to. That series has really, cemented itself as a…
• 1:00:11
  Tyler Johnson: I don't know, good comeback for Vertigo, I think?
• 1:00:14
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah. So I'm really looking forward to that one.
• 1:00:20
  Tyler Johnson: Let's see what else is out. : Bizarro Denver, I'm looking forward to. : I like the first issue. : Hammerfist. : But money shots, the fuck offs number two. : Absolutely.
• 1:00:31
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, there. That's what I'm looking forward to.
• 1:00:34
  Phil: Yeah, I picked, I don't usually, usually dip into DC or Marvel for these, but I picked the Batman run I'd be most likely to read next, which is, Ram V's Detective Comics run, which also had, material from Dan Waters, Sizeberry, Raphael, Bukirky, Hayden Sherman, Stefano Raphael, and many more, and that's getting an omnibus.
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it was, it was a, it was a really good run.
• 1:00:58
  Phil: I heard it was I was.
• 1:00:59
  Tad Eggleston: well.
• 1:01:00
  Phil: When it was announced, I was like, damn, that would…
• 1:01:01
  Tad Eggleston: I read.
• 1:01:02
  Phil: that if I was reading DC.
• 1:01:04
  Tad Eggleston: I… I… I was… I was pleased that I got to… to talk to… to Ram.
• 1:01:09
  Tad Eggleston: Nice. During that run. So, so, so we, we, we…
• 1:01:12
  Tad Eggleston: We got to talk… talk some about that. It was… it was good stuff.
• 1:01:16
  Tad Eggleston: So, alright.
• 1:01:19
  Tad Eggleston: Not quite as tight as we'd hoped, but we're still out well before 9.
• 1:01:23
  Tyler Johnson: you.
• 1:01:25
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, take us out.
• 1:01:26
  Tyler Johnson: Okay. Alright guys, thanks for listening, and we will catch you after the next page.
• 1:01:31
  Tyler Johnson: Later.
• 1:01:33
  Phil: No, no, no, no.