Latest / The Inspired Stories Podcast / Conor Murphy's Big Night Fitness: Transforming Nightclubs into Wellness Spaces
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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast,
- 0:08where leaders share their experiences so we can learn from
- 0:11their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:14adversity. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:16today's guest is Connor Murphy, managing partner of Big Night
- 0:20Fitness at Big Night Entertainment Group.
- 0:23Connor helps bring high energy workouts to nightlife venues,
- 0:26allowing anyone to experience the excitement of fitness
- 0:29classes enhanced by incredible sound and lighting.
- 0:33Big Night Fitness is on a mission to make exercise fun and
- 0:36accessible by merging professional grade instruction
- 0:40with the atmosphere of a nightclub.
- 0:42Launched in 2021, Big Night Fitness soon gained attention
- 0:46for converting close clubs into dynamic pop up gyms throughout
- 0:49Boston. Under his leadership, the
- 0:52company has expanded rapidly, hosting everything from hit
- 0:54classes to specialized dance and cycling sessions.
- 0:58Connor is a certified CrossFit trainer, firefighter, and many
- 1:03other things that we're going to hear about today.
- 1:06And he spent over 7 years at Reebok where he honed leadership
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- 1:50AD back benefits.com. All right, back to our guest
- 1:54today, managing partner, Big Night Fitness, Connor Murphy.
- 1:57Thanks for making the time to Share your story today.
- 2:00Appreciate you having me on. OK, so Connor, let's go back
- 2:03early days. What first sparked your interest
- 2:05in fitness? You know, my parents were really
- 2:09involved in fitness in different ways than I am now.
- 2:12But both my parents were bodybuilders when I was born.
- 2:15And so the discipline of of fitness and training to be a
- 2:18better athlete at a young age was instilled upon me from my
- 2:22parents being a younger, smaller, skinnier kid growing
- 2:27up, realizing that, you know, the only advantage I was going
- 2:30to have later in sports was going to be discipline and
- 2:33training was really what kind of caught my passion.
- 2:37It wasn't just like, hey, I want to be fit for nothing or fit for
- 2:40life. It was I need to be the best of
- 2:41these sports. And this was the only way that I
- 2:43really had control over it rather than, you know, you're
- 2:46playing a sport against someone else.
- 2:47You can't control how fit they are, but you can control, you
- 2:50know, how good you are at your at your respective sport and
- 2:52training. So I think that's probably where
- 2:53it started at a young age from my parents.
- 2:55OK. Did you spend some time in the
- 2:57Navy? I did, Yep.
- 2:59Yeah, I enlisted right out of high school.
- 3:04That was another big part of it, you know, training to be in Navy
- 3:07Special Warfare, which is something, it was a, it was a
- 3:10huge challenge. It was something I always wanted
- 3:12to do. So the training aspect really
- 3:15got highlighted during that training and then afterwards as
- 3:17well. How did that experience, plus,
- 3:22you know, all of that rigidity, that structure of physical
- 3:26fitness from your youth kind of play into the way that you
- 3:30approach leadership today? Well, I'll tell you one thing.
- 3:34The rigidity of training was very different from how I grew
- 3:39up. In high school, I was kind of a
- 3:41hellraiser for my parents. About the only thing I did right
- 3:46was stay focused on the gym. But always wanting to make my
- 3:49friends laugh, always getting into trouble, usually on the
- 3:52innocent side of things, but sometimes I probably should have
- 3:56thought twice before some of my actions.
- 3:58So I think the, the Navy was actually really what I needed
- 4:01rather than trying to go to college to play sports.
- 4:04It was having that rigid structure.
- 4:06And then once I was able to translate what I was doing in
- 4:09training to everyday aspects of life.
- 4:11I think most of the modalities that I that I preach and that I
- 4:17that I live my life by in business have come from training
- 4:20and discipline from either the military or from a from an
- 4:24actual physical fitness aspect. And you spent seven years at
- 4:29Reebok as a team leader. What did that role entail?
- 4:33So I actually think it might have been been closer to 10
- 4:36years. I originally, because I was
- 4:38competing in CrossFit, I got sponsored by Reebok and then
- 4:42after six months they had asked for me to come coach at their
- 4:46headquarters in Canton, MA, which is just South of Boston.
- 4:50And I started off just as a coach, then went into a manager
- 4:53position and team leader, and then actually the head of the
- 4:55whole gym. So kind of the health and
- 4:58Wellness of Reebok. And that was one of those things
- 5:01where I probably got into roles before I was mature enough to be
- 5:05there and kind of learn the lesson the hard way of what it
- 5:08took to get to that point. But I think that from a
- 5:11management side of things, when all of a sudden the people that
- 5:15are your peers are now looking to you for expertise and
- 5:18management, you have to be a little bit more professional.
- 5:22And that's where I kind of learned.
- 5:23I've always been a big I'm not going to ask you to do anything
- 5:26that I haven't done. And I think getting climbing
- 5:29that ladder in a natural, organic way was a good way to do
- 5:33it where anyone that I was asking them to do something, it
- 5:37wasn't something I wasn't either currently doing or have done
- 5:40before or wasn't willing to do. So can you give us a specific
- 5:45story, an example of when you were not mature enough for the
- 5:48role that you were put into? Oh yeah.
- 5:51Now I got a good one for this. So I was a trainer, right?
- 5:56I was just a coach. I was a full time coach.
- 5:58They like to bring athletes in there.
- 5:59We would compete for the Reebok team at the CrossFit Games and
- 6:04all of a sudden my, my, the people in charge of me.
- 6:07So Austin Malliolo, who was the head of gym for a long time, and
- 6:11then Denise Thomas. Incredible leaders, incredible
- 6:13managers. They were unavailable for this
- 6:17big, they call it a retailer summit.
- 6:19So in Las Vegas they would have every retailer that Reebok had
- 6:23globally come in. They would all fly in and we
- 6:26would have all of the retail, anything that we are going to be
- 6:28selling for whatever the following year or two years
- 6:31products were. They would come pick out what
- 6:33they wanted for their specific markets and they would run this
- 6:36this big fitness event. And when I say big fitness
- 6:40event, I mean five groups of 250 different people that were all
- 6:43retailers. So we had, you know, 1000 plus
- 6:47people that were coming through this fitness event.
- 6:51And instead of just me being a coach, coaching my portion of
- 6:53it, I was actually in charge of the whole thing.
- 6:56So there were celebrity trainers from all different aspects, from
- 6:59running, from Pilates, from CrossFit, from everything.
- 7:03And, and my job and role was to, was to be in charge of it and
- 7:07run it and make sure everything went smoothly.
- 7:09And I like to, I like to have a good time with, with my friends
- 7:14and family. And the night before that event,
- 7:18one of the, one of the heads, I, I think it was the VP of, I
- 7:23think maybe the whole business. We went to the UFC fight and I
- 7:27told my boss at the time, Austin Malliola, I was like, I'm not
- 7:31going to have a drink until, you know, after this event is all
- 7:34set. And, you know, I'd, I'd played
- 7:36the role, you know, these P of these trainers that I look up
- 7:39to, we're now looking up to me to have everything set.
- 7:42So I was playing all the roles, making sure everyone was all
- 7:44set. We went to the UFC game or the
- 7:46UFC match and this VP was like, hey, you're going to have a
- 7:50drink with me. And so I said, OK.
- 7:52And the next thing you know, we're at the blackjack tables
- 7:54with the CEO, the president of Reebok, and we went to a
- 8:00nightclub where this is kind of where like the celebrity
- 8:04training aspect comes into it. And one of the DJs that was
- 8:06playing there, I knew from just training experience.
- 8:10And we had gone back to this nightclub, Hakasan, that Reebok
- 8:13had rented out previous to the UFC fight.
- 8:17But now it's nightlife. It's probably two or three in
- 8:19the morning and I'm with the CEO of Reebok.
- 8:22I'm with the president of Reebok going in there.
- 8:24And he was like, Hey, we have these stamps.
- 8:26We rented out this place beforehand.
- 8:28And the door guys are like, hey, you can't, you can't come in
- 8:31with T-shirt with, with tennis shoes on.
- 8:34And so he's like, hey, I rented this whole place out or
- 8:37whatever. And some guys walked in that
- 8:39were wearing similar attire to us.
- 8:41And he's like, well, why are they able to go in and we're
- 8:43not. And they were like, they're on
- 8:45the DJ list. So we don't have anything to do
- 8:48with that. And I was like, Oh my gosh,
- 8:50earlier that day, the person who was DJing there was like, hey,
- 8:53I'll throw you on the list, Come say hi to me.
- 8:55And I was like, hey, I'm actually on that list.
- 8:57And they're like, no, you're not.
- 8:59I was like, I am Conor Murphy. And they look at it and they're
- 9:02like, show me an ID that says Conor Murphy and you guys can
- 9:04come in here and show them my ID.
- 9:06And they were like, all right, you're in.
- 9:09And from that aspect, you know the president of the company is
- 9:12you're. Looking pretty cool.
- 9:13Yo, yeah. And that was like, I was the
- 9:15coolest. That's the coolest I've ever
- 9:17been. And the, and the the president
- 9:19is like, how can you get us in here and me not I've, you know,
- 9:22drinks are on me tonight and we're going out and we're in.
- 9:24We're in the DJ booth with the DJ.
- 9:27And Jon Jones, who got back his title is in there.
- 9:30We're all having drinks together.
- 9:31He was a previous Reebok athlete.
- 9:33So everyone's having a good time in.
- 9:35About 5:30 AM we leave and I'm going back to my room and I'm,
- 9:42I'm, I'm being somewhat responsible.
- 9:44Like I, I wasn't, you know, I, I remember everything and, and
- 9:48being like, all right, I'm keeping an eye on my watch.
- 9:51Send a message to all the trainers at 6:00 AM that, you
- 9:54know, hope everyone's up. Everyone had a great night.
- 9:56Here's where you're going to meet.
- 9:57And I was supposed to go to the venue early.
- 10:00The team I was going to go to the venue with, they had an
- 10:02issue the night before. So they were already gone.
- 10:04So they messaged me. Hey, just come with the trainers
- 10:06at 7:00 AM. OK, Sounds good.
- 10:10So it's, you know, maybe 6:00 AM at this point in time, I'm back
- 10:13in my room, set an alarm on my phone for for 6:45.
- 10:18That didn't happen. And so I wake up at 8:30.
- 10:23I have about 70 missed calls on my phone.
- 10:27Ends up one of the other, you know, senior leadership team of
- 10:31Reebok had to step into my role. Felt really silly about it.
- 10:35I think everyone anything went off pretty well without any
- 10:38major issues. But you know, I had to spend the
- 10:40rest of the morning, I woke up just in an absolute panic like
- 10:44this. There's no way this is
- 10:45happening. I tried to get to the venue.
- 10:48The cab driver didn't know where to drop me off at the event was
- 10:50already over and I had to go talk to every single leader that
- 10:54saw me as this like Reebok athlete, kind of fun party guy
- 10:57that was supposed to be in this professional setting and be
- 11:00like, hey, I dropped the ball. I messed up on this and I had to
- 11:02just like own all of these mistakes.
- 11:05Denise and Austin were so disappointed that this was like
- 11:07the one shot for me to prove that I'm not just this.
- 11:10I can be in another scenario. But I somehow survived that
- 11:14event. I think by failing fast, I think
- 11:17by not making excuses. Hey, I was out with these guys
- 11:20the night before. It was you.
- 11:21Just owned it. You're like, this is on me.
- 11:24I didn't need to tell everyone the story of who I was out with
- 11:26and then put blame on someone else.
- 11:28It was like it was my responsibility to be there.
- 11:31I made every choice in that night and I messed up.
- 11:35And that was one of those ones where it was.
- 11:38That's stuck with you. I'm guessing that's probably
- 11:40affected how you've made other decisions going forward.
- 11:43For sure. And, and listen, I can talk
- 11:45about this now as if it was kind of a funny event, but I was in a
- 11:49panic. I was, I was talking to the
- 11:51travel team being like, all right, you got to send me home
- 11:54early. I got to find another job.
- 11:56I'm working for the CrossFit training team so I can focus on
- 11:58that and then work at another gym.
- 12:00And I mean, I was panicked and it was, it was so embarrassing,
- 12:05No. They kept you.
- 12:06Nope. They kept me and they kind of
- 12:09laughed it off. They gave me that year in 2015
- 12:12what they call the Lindsay Lohan Award.
- 12:14I don't know if there's like a trademark to that or if I'm
- 12:17going to get in trouble for saying that.
- 12:18But in Las Vegas, NV in 2015 at the Reebok Retailer Summit, I
- 12:22got the Lindsay Lohan Award, which I was not proud of at the
- 12:26time. But now seeing it as such a big
- 12:28learning lesson for me as someone who wasn't necessarily
- 12:32the most professional person to realize that, hey, in these
- 12:35settings, you've got to be able to lock in and not be the
- 12:40person. If you want to be at this level,
- 12:42you can't act as the person as everyone sees you at.
- 12:46And you know, if I would have made it that morning, maybe been
- 12:50a little bit hungover and everything went off, it was only
- 12:53a matter of time before I was going to learn that lesson in
- 12:56the future. You think you needed to fall on
- 12:58your face like this? 100.
- 13:00Percent, whether it was that time or something that would
- 13:02have happened in the future. Well, if I wouldn't have learned
- 13:05it then, and I realized that I got away with this.
- 13:07I was the cool guy. Everyone looked up to me for
- 13:09that. What's going to stop me from
- 13:10doing that in the future? And then just keep going down
- 13:13that rabbit hole until it happens where the event doesn't
- 13:16go off. Well, I don't show up in the
- 13:18event doesn't happen. And Reebok looks like a joke in
- 13:20front of their global retailers. Yeah, OK, so where did the idea
- 13:26to start Big Night Fitness come from?
- 13:30So with the celebrity training side of things, I had a couple
- 13:34of DJs that I OK. Well, hang on, let's back up.
- 13:36How did you get into celebrity training?
- 13:38So I always tell this story when people ask.
- 13:41I have a friend, his name is Mike Finn.
- 13:43He is a tour manager and he was working with kind of hardcore
- 13:48punk rock, smaller, smaller bands and then worked his way up
- 13:53to an artist named Dylan Francis and before that I would send him
- 13:58some programming. He's from Natick, MA, so we
- 14:01would work out. We became friends and once he
- 14:03started training Dylan, he introduced us.
- 14:07We went out on the road, nothing for training, just to kind of
- 14:10hang out. And then at another tour we went
- 14:13out and we all did a workout outside of the tour bus.
- 14:16And Dylan came out at that point in time and was kind of making
- 14:19fun of us for, you know, doing CrossFit workouts.
- 14:23And I was nervous, but I was like, hey Dylan, like if you
- 14:25want to do a workout, we can do like a quick 10 minute body
- 14:28weight workout. I promise you'll feel better
- 14:29afterwards. And I think on the spot he was
- 14:33just like, OK. And so we went into one of the
- 14:36green rooms. I put him through a quick little
- 14:38workout, worked on his squat position, just air squats and
- 14:40burpees. 7 minutes later he found himself out of breath
- 14:44laying on his back being like what the heck happened?
- 14:47Day later he was like I'm sore but I feel great.
- 14:51You know, I'm paying these trainers in LA to train me for
- 14:53two hours and I've never felt like that before in a 7 minute
- 14:56workout. I've never felt better about a
- 14:57squat. My knees don't hurt.
- 14:59And that's how I got into the music industry.
- 15:03And even though it's just one artist, you know, you can't, you
- 15:08can't market yourself as a celebrity trainer.
- 15:10You can't just say, hey, guys, I'm A Celebrity trainer and
- 15:12trainers go and celebrities go, all right, well, I'll come train
- 15:15with you then. You know, it's, it's all word of
- 15:17mouth. It's being a trusted source in
- 15:19the industry. And so with Dylan, he was such
- 15:22an is such, I mean, a good friend of mine and such an
- 15:24awesome guy that when he would see results, he would post about
- 15:28it on his social media. Other artists would reach out to
- 15:30him. And, you know, I would get cold
- 15:33calls from artists being like, hey, I'm in this Boston area.
- 15:36I want to train, but what happened was he was in town and
- 15:41he was playing at one of these big night Entertainment Group
- 15:43venues, the Grand, and it's about a mile like 1.2 miles from
- 15:50from the Reebok headquarters in Seaport.
- 15:51The headquarters had moved from Canton into Seaport.
- 15:54And he came by and worked out with me before going to his like
- 15:57pre show dinner with all the big night guys, played his show.
- 16:01And then a little bit later an artist, Steve Aoki came into
- 16:07town kind of the same concept had and you heard of me from
- 16:10Dylan and he reached out about training.
- 16:14And so when Randy Greenstein, one of the Co owners of big
- 16:17night Entertainment Group, messaged Steve saying, hey,
- 16:20we're going to do dinner at Empire, which is one of their
- 16:23kind of Asian cuisines, high end restaurant venues in Boston.
- 16:29It's like, hey, we're going to do dinner at Empire at 10 and
- 16:31then we're going to do the show. And Aoki says, OK, cool, I'm
- 16:35just going to train with my guy at Reebok before heading in.
- 16:38And this was the second time Randy had heard about it.
- 16:40And so he's like, who's this guy at Reebok?
- 16:43And it's these were the two guys, but there was, I didn't
- 16:45train a whole slew of people like it just happened a chance
- 16:48to be these two guys. So he came down, we worked out
- 16:52and we ended up working out a deal that I got about $10,000 of
- 16:56pro mat from the store. So the, the headquarters store
- 17:00was right next to the gym. So we would put together this,
- 17:04this one pager that was sent from big night to all artists
- 17:08saying, hey, if you want to get a free outfit from the store and
- 17:10private training from this trainer, you know, you can
- 17:13utilize this service. So now they're reaching out to
- 17:16people for me, because it, it creates this Wellness and health
- 17:20aspect of a hospitality company that may not and definitely at
- 17:25the time wasn't there before and people were taking advantage of
- 17:29it. So they would come in, get an
- 17:31outfit, we would work out and then they'd be like, you got to
- 17:35come to the show, come to dinner with us.
- 17:36And that's when I think I'd do well is where you can sit down
- 17:39and have conversations with people and, you know, not be so
- 17:42quick to talk and tell your story, but really listen to
- 17:45their stories and create these genuine relationships where
- 17:48they're going to reach out to other people that are coming to
- 17:50Boston. Hey, you got to meet up with
- 17:52this guy, You got to train with this guy.
- 17:54And that's kind of the start of Randy and I's relationship.
- 17:58Who then had conversations with his business partner, the other
- 18:01owner of Big Night Entertainment Group, which is Ed Kane, and
- 18:05during the pandemic. Sorry, sorry to interrupt you.
- 18:10I I want to paint a picture for folks Big night Entertainment
- 18:13Group. This is a bigger umbrella.
- 18:15Can you describe it for folks What what it is?
- 18:17Yeah, so Big Night Entertainment Group is the largest nightlife
- 18:20and hospitality group in the Northeast area, from restaurants
- 18:24to nightclubs. I think at one point in time
- 18:26there were 18 restaurant and nightlife venues and then they
- 18:30started card Vault, which is like, you know, you get these
- 18:34sports trading cards, sports memorabilia.
- 18:37Tom Brady just recently bought into it.
- 18:39We're now they're card vault by Tom Brady.
- 18:40There's now eight of those stores, along with all of the
- 18:43aspects of restaurants from arcade, you know, Dave and
- 18:48Buster style places to world class nightclubs.
- 18:51And big night has a so like a, you know, a bunch of different
- 18:56kind of things that go under the big night umbrella.
- 18:58And what my aspect is now is I just run the health and Wellness
- 19:01side of that. So with the support of this just
- 19:04monster company. So health and Wellness with
- 19:08restaurants and nightclubs, it's, it seems a little
- 19:14disjointed, kind of tie it together for me.
- 19:17Well, I think that opinion is why it was so perfect, right?
- 19:22It's a, it's a huge gap in the industry.
- 19:25But it would make sense where if all people are pushing are, you
- 19:30know, overconsumption of food and drinking should probably be
- 19:35paired with some aspect of health and Wellness, especially
- 19:38for the artists that are touring day in and day out, traveling
- 19:42around. I mean, your shelf life is only
- 19:43going to be so long if you're not taking care of yourself.
- 19:46And so from a health and Wellness perspective, I was
- 19:49like, this is necessary. From the nightlife perspective,
- 19:52they were like, I don't think people are really going to be
- 19:53into it. And once we were able to merge
- 19:56those two, it then brought an aspect to Big Night
- 19:59Entertainment Group that no other hospitality company had.
- 20:03So before we talk about how you merge these two ideas, can you
- 20:06explain how it is that there's so many celebrities kind of in
- 20:11the mix and that there's a mailing list with these
- 20:13celebrities? So big night Entertainment
- 20:16Group, they they book artists for their nightclubs, from hip
- 20:22hop artists to DJs to even people doing after parties that
- 20:26are just celebrities that are going to go there and people
- 20:28will go because of that reason. Now on that they also sign
- 20:33artists, there's people that they market and promote and they
- 20:36do booking for a bunch of different venues all around the
- 20:39US. So they have contacts with these
- 20:41people and they are trusted sources where if they send A1
- 20:44pager out to someone who's coming into town saying you
- 20:47know, what is your rider, which is like what food, drinks and
- 20:51water do you want at the venue? Where do you want to go to
- 20:54dinner? What are the accommodations you
- 20:56need? Now added in there was if you
- 20:58care about this health and Wellness aspect, we have someone
- 21:01for you as well that is complimentary on your visit to
- 21:04Boston through Big Night Entertainment Group.
- 21:06And what was the time period where this all started to
- 21:09happen? This was before COVID.
- 21:11Yes, this is end of 2017, beginning of 2018.
- 21:16OK, so going into COVID, you've got a little bit of momentum
- 21:19with this, right? You're starting to get some
- 21:22clients, you're starting to get some recognition, some
- 21:24notoriety. Some of these celebrities, some
- 21:27of these musicians are saying, yeah, like, I want to work out
- 21:30with Connor. Let's do that.
- 21:32I think it started really when, you know, I had some people
- 21:36through big night that were coming to train with me in
- 21:38Boston, but Dylan hired me to be his trainer on tour.
- 21:43So we had AUS Bus tour with another artist.
- 21:46And when I went on this tour, you know, Dylan wasn't like a
- 21:50like a huge drinker, wasn't partying every night, but did
- 21:53like to drink. And during this tour, he's like,
- 21:56hey, if I'm going to be paying you to be on the road with me, I
- 21:58want to be all in. Like you manage my sleep
- 22:01schedule, you manage what I eat when I wake up.
- 22:03You manage a training, you do all that stuff.
- 22:05And there were times when he wouldn't even go into the
- 22:08catering room. I would just go make his plate
- 22:11for him and bring it back. So he wasn't going to be
- 22:13distracted with, you know, the desserts or what the necessary
- 22:16components of it that are, you know, feeding all of the, you
- 22:19know, the stagehands that are there who are aren't going to
- 22:21eat, you know, the chicken and broccoli that that is on like
- 22:25the, you know, the little side table in there.
- 22:28So that was that was a big piece of it.
- 22:31And when he posted his results, like before and after photos,
- 22:34shirt off about going into tour and then afterwards, that's when
- 22:39other art, you know, he has millions and millions of
- 22:40followers and a lot of them being other celebrities.
- 22:44That's when they took note to wow, this is this is how touring
- 22:48can be. Didn't drink the entire tour,
- 22:52maybe drank a couple of times during the year afterwards.
- 22:56And after our second tour together where he decided to do
- 22:59the same thing, he realized he felt better, his creative was
- 23:03better, his relationships are better, every aspect of his life
- 23:06was better without drinking that.
- 23:09Now I think he's been sober for 3 1/2 years.
- 23:13And so people seeing that is where the momentum was coming
- 23:16from, where I was getting DMS on social media, phone calls, text
- 23:21messages from people coming into town, whether it's from a big
- 23:24night venue or not, you know, they were now seeing this guy
- 23:29knows the world of, you know, artists.
- 23:34You can't just, you know, any trainer can give someone a
- 23:36workout so hard that they can't walk for a week.
- 23:39Like, you don't have to be a good trainer to do that.
- 23:41And I feel like too often people are like, this trainer's the
- 23:44best. Like, they crush you in
- 23:46workouts. It's like, OK, great.
- 23:47It doesn't take a lot to do that.
- 23:50You know, I could have someone do 1000 air squats and they're
- 23:52not going to be able to walk for a week.
- 23:54But can you give someone a workout that gets all the
- 23:58benefits of fitness, but also allows them to play on stage
- 24:01that night with a little bit more energy and allows them to
- 24:04train the following day? So that's when you become the
- 24:07trusted source in there of not just, hey, here's some, you
- 24:10know, a hole trainer who's going to crush you into the ground,
- 24:13but hey, here's someone who can actually take care of you.
- 24:16And you can really change someone's life with one meal and
- 24:20one workout. And I truly believe that they're
- 24:22not going to get, you know, you're not going to go from 280
- 24:25lbs to 190 lbs after one meal and one workout.
- 24:29But what you can do is you can start now a habit of I'm feeling
- 24:33better. This is how I got there.
- 24:36So I'm going to continue doing this.
- 24:38And for most people. That first step in creating a
- 24:41new habit that's so important, that's what you mean by it can
- 24:43change somebody's life because it starts them on the right
- 24:45path. Right.
- 24:46And, and most people's problems come from if I were to just kind
- 24:52of blindly throw a dart at a board would be overconsumption
- 24:57of liquid process and refined carbohydrates.
- 24:59They're so readily available. It it, it just does a number to
- 25:02your body. We talked about hyperinsulinemia
- 25:05and the deadly quartet of upper body obesity,
- 25:08hypertriglyceridemia, you know, hypertension, all of these
- 25:11different things that are stemming from your response to
- 25:14eating all these crappy foods. And so by definition, the cure
- 25:19to something would be, you know, the elimination of a root cause.
- 25:24If by one meal you're not eating over processed carbohydrates and
- 25:27you're no longer sedentary by moving, well now you've
- 25:30eliminated the root cause of what your issue is.
- 25:32So if you can continue doing that, that's a cure for whatever
- 25:35issues that you have going on. Now it's obviously not as simple
- 25:38as that and the discipline and consistency comes into it, but
- 25:42if it happens for one person now the validity of it is there and
- 25:47now it's just, am I able to do this?
- 25:49Yeah. I mean, I think for any
- 25:51business, the best form of marketing, the most effective is
- 25:54word of mouth. And you had that, but you had it
- 25:58on a large scale because this musician had a ton of followers
- 26:03and he's just posting real stuff that happened with you, right?
- 26:06So, yeah, you've got some legitimacy, some credibility
- 26:10very early on. OK.
- 26:13Is it a good time in the story to hop ahead to what happened in
- 26:16COVID or we going to be missing something important if we do
- 26:18that? No, we can go into that.
- 26:20But one thing I want to note on this, too, is that I don't know
- 26:24how swearing goes in your podcast.
- 26:26I'm trying not to swear on this, but you know, I don't want to be
- 26:30labeled as this. Hey, Connor's a celebrity
- 26:32trainer. Like, I think that's like the
- 26:34worst and most cringy title to have because I'm not a celebrity
- 26:38trainer. I'll train anyone willing to
- 26:40train. The cool part about doing it for
- 26:43someone with a large following, which I guess would somehow be a
- 26:47definition of a celebrity, is that reach.
- 26:51I take just as much pride and I have just as much happiness
- 26:54training. You know my buddy Trevor who
- 26:56just recently lost 100 lbs since starting to train with me.
- 27:00I take more pride in that then maybe helping someone get a
- 27:04little bit fitter. That's a celebrity.
- 27:05However, when they post about it, that then gives that right
- 27:10to so many more people, the outreach to so many people, and
- 27:14it's not going to be with me. It's going to be with someone
- 27:17else to seek out something where, hey, Diplo cares about
- 27:20health and Wellness. He was out there training with
- 27:22this guy. Maybe I can look into it.
- 27:23I love his music and I love training, but if he's doing
- 27:26this, maybe I can do that too. That's the cool part about the
- 27:29celebrity side of things. Not so that I get a post on
- 27:32Instagram. So I get more followers and and
- 27:34I get notoriety to the kids back home that are like, oh, Connor's
- 27:38made it like that's stupid. I just want to get out there and
- 27:40say that first before we go. Into it, Yeah.
- 27:43OK. I appreciate you throwing that
- 27:44out there. OK, So what happened in COVID?
- 27:48So in COVID, as we all know, probably different aspects of
- 27:51the world, there were different things.
- 27:53But we had big night Entertainment Group had a kind
- 27:57of a huge loss because of with they weren't allowed to open and
- 28:04the restaurants they had to go through new guidelines every
- 28:06week because of all these different, you know, things that
- 28:10were going on. The nightclubs were closed
- 28:12because they weren't serving food.
- 28:13So they couldn't have big gatherings of people.
- 28:16Now on that, as well as the fitness studios, especially
- 28:19these boutique fitness studios, they're struggling because they
- 28:22have to have, you know, they're either closed down or they have
- 28:25to have 12 feet on each side of social distancing so people
- 28:29didn't get sick. And like, these are businesses
- 28:31that that don't have anything to fall back on.
- 28:34It's like their clientele and who they were helping, you know,
- 28:37that was, that was their business.
- 28:40And as we know, and I think everyone can agree on the people
- 28:42who were, you know, in the best position to fight COVID were
- 28:46healthy people. So if we can then add in this
- 28:49aspect of health and Wellness or sorry, we're, we're removing
- 28:53this aspect of health and Wellness from them.
- 28:55It's it's a negative on on both sides of it.
- 28:58So Randy and Ed had this idea, Hey, we have this gym or we, we
- 29:03have this, we have these nightclubs that are empty and
- 29:06these gyms that can't open. What if we allow them to utilize
- 29:09the space, utilize the sound system to, you know, put their
- 29:13spin bikes in there and, and run these classes.
- 29:15And that was the first part of it too.
- 29:17And I think that's what really encapsulates like club training
- 29:22is that if you've been to kind of these cycle beat spin classes
- 29:25from Soul Cycle to Handlebar to, you know, any of these high
- 29:30level spin classes, they try to make their studios a nightclub,
- 29:34you know, loud music, lights, it's this electric atmosphere.
- 29:38However, they're not going to spend $14 million on a sound
- 29:41system because there's no ROI in it.
- 29:43They're not selling alcohol, you know, bottle service in an
- 29:47experience where they can, you know, sell a bottle of $30
- 29:50Tito's for $400.00. And when they're able to be
- 29:54brought into that atmosphere, the world changed.
- 29:58People were like, this is this is incredible.
- 30:00And the trainers, they feel like they're these celebrities.
- 30:03They're going to be on stage and sharing the stage with all of
- 30:06their favorite singers who are who are creating the songs that
- 30:10they're putting on their playlist to have these spin
- 30:12classes and then. Were were the musicians part of
- 30:15the classes or just their music was part of the classes?
- 30:18Well, at the time their music was a part of the classes.
- 30:21You know, it's like, so Dylan Francis, who I'm training is
- 30:24probably on any known spin strike spin instructor.
- 30:28They know who he is because his songs are on the playlist.
- 30:31And we have now from there had these guest appearances of DJs
- 30:36showing up to do these classes, which has been awesome.
- 30:38But that's what kind of stemmed, hey, during these down times
- 30:41when big night opened back up and people were allowed back in
- 30:44clubs during these down times. Well, why can't we have this
- 30:48going on? Why can't we add this in when
- 30:51the nightclubs closed on a Tuesday night?
- 30:53And that's kind of what created the next side of the business
- 30:55where Big Night Fitness turned into maybe it's not just the
- 30:59celebrity training that we have to offer, but maybe we can
- 31:02highlight fitness instructors in the same way we highlight
- 31:05artists, athletes, you know, these celebrities that are
- 31:08coming into town. And is it just in the evenings
- 31:12or you know, I mean you get a lot of downtime during the day.
- 31:15Obviously a nightclubs not open during the day is is there a
- 31:18market for utilizing the space for fitness classes during the
- 31:21day too? Oh yeah, we've done sunrise yoga
- 31:24classes, we've done Pilates classes in the afternoon.
- 31:27There's, you know, charity event at 10:00 and then at noon we
- 31:32open up one of the bar venues and people will go there and get
- 31:34some post drink cocktails. And it, it really just brings in
- 31:38a community of people. And to be honest with you,
- 31:41anyone who's been in the nightlife scene, they're
- 31:43probably thinking to themselves right now like that's not going
- 31:46to move the needle for a for a nightclub.
- 31:48But now when you're getting people that probably weren't
- 31:51going to go to a nightclub to begin with, now feel like
- 31:54they're a part of this community and they realize, especially on
- 31:56big nights and who, you know, they're not cutting costs to to
- 32:00make a venue less expensive. They are unbelievable.
- 32:04They are beautiful, they are clean.
- 32:05Most people think, oh, this nightclub would be a disaster if
- 32:08you saw it with the lights on. Like it's not a pretty sight.
- 32:11Well, that's not how big night runs things.
- 32:13Big night Entertainment Group. So we're able to run classes
- 32:17morning, noon, evenings, you know, obviously not on Friday or
- 32:21Saturday night. It's not going to rival a, you
- 32:24know, a, a, a nightclub night. But yeah, at any point in time
- 32:27of the day, whenever we feel like there's a need or whenever
- 32:30an instructor or a company says, hey, we want to try this out
- 32:33then. And we were able to throw a
- 32:35bunch of stuff at a wall and see what stuck.
- 32:37And the good and bad part of it of it was that most of it stuck.
- 32:41It's like, hey, people want to have this stuff, you know, they
- 32:43don't want to have a gym membership to a nightclub, but
- 32:46they want these community events, they want an experience,
- 32:48which is what we're giving people with nightclub.
- 32:50So what with the nightclub? But why can't we give it to them
- 32:53from a fitness aspect as well? And So what does it look like
- 32:56today? What has it evolved to end of
- 32:592025 as we're recording this? Oh well, how much more time do
- 33:03we have left in this thing? It's so we're still running the
- 33:06events we've done them now expanded outside of just big
- 33:10night venues to we have outdoor venues, we do indoor classes, we
- 33:14do charity events. On that side of it, we have a
- 33:16gym, which is where I'm at right now in Charlestown, MA, right
- 33:19across the bridge from one of our, our world renowned
- 33:23nightlife venues called Big Night Live.
- 33:24And in this gym is where we have, you know, we have a sauna
- 33:29here. We have a cold tub, which is why
- 33:30I'm still kind of shaking probably from the first half of
- 33:32this interview. Not because I'm nervous because
- 33:34I just spent way too much time in that thing where we train
- 33:38people and then we allow people to.
- 33:40We have a bunch of different instructors that run their
- 33:42classes. You know, if they're a trainer
- 33:43at an Equinox, they can't run these big events with their
- 33:46clients at their gym. But if they want to come down
- 33:49here and we have equipment, there's, you know, pull up rigs,
- 33:52we have all sorts of concept 2 machines, everything you'd need
- 33:54in the gym. We have these at this big space.
- 33:57So it expanded from just nightclubs to now more equipment
- 34:01based fitness. We do on demand videos for, you
- 34:06know, Encore Boston Harbor. It's a five star resort.
- 34:08It's a win Encore casino that's right across the water.
- 34:12We do all the on demand fitness for them.
- 34:14So if you go into a room and you click fitness, you can have four
- 34:18different trainers that do these 10 minute or less workout videos
- 34:21in room for people that want to move a little bit, but may not
- 34:24be, you know, the ones that are going to get up early and go
- 34:27down to the gym. We've expanded to fitness
- 34:31retreats where if there's a yoga instructor who has a good
- 34:35following, we have partnerships with Celebration Travel, which
- 34:39is a sister company of destination weddings.
- 34:42And through big night we can host these large fitness
- 34:45retreats where people are going down.
- 34:47They want to be around like minded people.
- 34:49You know this experience where they're going down, they do yoga
- 34:52in the morning. And then there's all these
- 34:53extravagant things, whether you're hiking through a
- 34:56rainforest, doing zip lines, going on a boat cruise, doing
- 34:59all sorts of stuff. Now at properties out of the
- 35:02United States, there's probably a few more things that, you
- 35:05know, we may, may haven't touched on with run clubs and,
- 35:08and all sorts of different stuff.
- 35:10But really anything, anything that people want to do that can
- 35:13create and enhance the community, that's what we're,
- 35:15that's what we're about. Anything you can do to create
- 35:19enhanced community around fitness?
- 35:21Correct with Big Night Fitness. Now I have to give credit where
- 35:24credit is due that Ed and Randy do the same thing with Big Night
- 35:29Entertainment Group. They do anything to create and
- 35:32build this community around nightclubs, around restaurants,
- 35:36around every different aspect of it.
- 35:38And I think it comes from, you know, our creative director,
- 35:41this guy Scott, he understands that it's not a one time thing.
- 35:45You don't want everyone to come to your venues once and have a
- 35:48great time. You want to give them a reason
- 35:49to come back. And that comes from community,
- 35:51that comes from being around like minded people.
- 35:55And if people want fitness and not partying and we should have
- 35:58a fitness aspect, or if people want to follow skateboarding,
- 36:02then we should be able to highlight them as skateboarders
- 36:04or as you know, any that you name the category.
- 36:07So they run, they run all that big stuff.
- 36:10This health and Wellness aspects just a small part of Big Night
- 36:13Entertainment Group, but it's everything from what I do in Big
- 36:16Night Fitness. How do they or you go about
- 36:21creating that community? Like I hear what you're saying
- 36:23on the fitness side of things and it's sort of the fitness
- 36:26thread that brings people together, right?
- 36:29I want to get more fit. I'm already fit.
- 36:30I want to stay fit. That's part of my identity.
- 36:33So we bring those people together in a really amazing
- 36:36venue where the sound is pumping and, you know, lights are going
- 36:40and like, you know, something you can't get in a typical gym.
- 36:42But I'm curious maybe how they do that on the, the restaurant
- 36:46and the, the club side of things.
- 36:48Like to me, community is like there's a common thread between
- 36:54everyone. How are they establishing that
- 36:56that threat? I think maybe is the root of the
- 36:58question I'm trying to get at. Yeah, and I think it, it
- 37:01probably differs depending on the area you're going into.
- 37:05But, you know, if I were to ask you if you wanted to get a
- 37:10college community to come do different events, what would
- 37:14that look like? You know, I'd reach out to a
- 37:15college student to to ask them what it would look like.
- 37:18But if I were to ask you, you know, in in your college days,
- 37:23what would have been the drawing force where you were like, Oh,
- 37:26I'm definitely going to do this. Would it be, Hey, someone said
- 37:29this is a college event or did the coolest person, you know,
- 37:33the guy who was or the guy or girl who was like in depth with
- 37:37it. They loved the college.
- 37:38They were a part of it. They were a part of everything
- 37:40from academic to sports and all of that stuff.
- 37:43They knew what was going on and said they were probably the one
- 37:47who you were like, oh, if this person's doing it, then we need
- 37:50to do that. That's what Big Night does
- 37:52really well as they find those people and they're able to
- 37:55highlight them to say, hey, what would you like to see here?
- 37:59What would be the event? Not saying, hey, we need to have
- 38:01all the answers. They have their ear to the
- 38:03ground on what communities are out there.
- 38:06Find the right people, highlight them, make them have it, be
- 38:11authentic and genuine to what they want.
- 38:13And then that's what's going to bring the other people in the
- 38:15community. And you can do that with any
- 38:18community you want. It's just a matter of it has to
- 38:20be genuine and you have to be willing to listen to the people
- 38:23and not have all the answers, but listen to the people who are
- 38:26those trusted sources. If it's fashion, you want the
- 38:29people who are into fashion, not the people who say, hey, I'm a
- 38:32creative director, I did well at this, so I'm going to do all
- 38:35these other categories. Who are the people and who are
- 38:37the heroes that can bring that authentic experience there?
- 38:41And that's how you create a community.
- 38:43It's just a matter of finding that and being able to give away
- 38:45a little bit of power. That's cool.
- 38:52Are you aware of anybody else that is kind of merging these
- 38:55two worlds of fitness and nightlife?
- 38:59You had other peers, other models that you can learn from?
- 39:03Or is this completely new? I mean, I'm, I'm not going to
- 39:10sit here and say everything that we've done, I've created.
- 39:14I'm a big fan of having someone you look up to and beg, borrow
- 39:17and steal from them, you know, give them credit for when credit
- 39:22is due. But I think that since we've
- 39:25done this, we've seen a lot of stuff in the Boston area.
- 39:28I actually just worked out with a friend, Darren, who started
- 39:31what's called Ritual in Boston and they have an outdoor venue
- 39:34called Park City. And every Saturday he now
- 39:38manages other people that can go train, you know, at this outdoor
- 39:43bar. But in the mornings they do a
- 39:46big workout class and then everyone hangs out.
- 39:48They have cold tubs from Sweat House.
- 39:49They have all of these different fitness brands that come around
- 39:52and, and do that. I think it's, I think it's
- 39:55something that was needed and probably done on a small scale.
- 39:58But now when people understand and see the community aspect of
- 40:01it, I think it's spreading a lot.
- 40:02And I still take ideas from other people that have come to
- 40:05my events and done their own. But as far as seeing other
- 40:11people do it, I think people have done it really well.
- 40:15You know, believe it or not, Zumba, they used to do these
- 40:19cruises so they would charter an entire cruise ship about people
- 40:23who probably would never go on a cruise, but they loved Zumba.
- 40:27And when you have so many people that can then create that
- 40:30community, we kind of copied that.
- 40:32And then 2019, myself, my old boss from Reebok, Austin, and
- 40:39another guy who was a, I can't remember what he did for a
- 40:45living, but very, very successful.
- 40:47We started a company called Wad on the Waves and we did the
- 40:50first ever CrossFit cruise. And that came from stealing
- 40:54ideas from Zumba, saying, hey, there's a community of these
- 40:56people. There's a community of CrossFit
- 40:58people that would probably never go on a cruise ship, but what if
- 41:01it was all their friends? What if in the morning, instead
- 41:04of these, you know, drinking activities, we had, you know,
- 41:07pull up rigs on the pool deck. We had concept 2 rowers instead
- 41:11of, you know, lounge chairs on the on the helicopter pad.
- 41:14We had sandbags and do all these different workouts and have
- 41:17seminars on fitness, but also bring the aspect of, you know,
- 41:21partying and hanging out with your friends.
- 41:22What's really cool about a cruise?
- 41:24So we, you know, kind of learned from other people doing that and
- 41:26we ran a couple cruises. Unfortunately, COVID was not
- 41:31very friendly to our to our second, a full cruise ship
- 41:36charter where they actually ended up cancelling all cruises.
- 41:40So it wasn't able to go out. But after the first one, it was,
- 41:42it was an incredible experience. And I think I've learned a lot
- 41:44from that from, you know, Chris Browser, who is the CEO of the
- 41:48company who came to Austin and I saying I have this idea, but I'm
- 41:52not the fitness guy, but I know how business works and I can
- 41:55afford to charter an entire cruise ship.
- 41:57So you guys run the fitness side of it and we'll get people to go
- 42:01on it. So I guess yeah, there's there's
- 42:05stuff to learn anywhere of any community, but I've learned a
- 42:07lot from that to bring into what Big Night Fitness is.
- 42:10Connor, it sounds like you've got your hands in a whole bunch
- 42:14of different things. We haven't even talked about how
- 42:17you're a firefighter. There might be other things
- 42:19we've missed as well. How do you manage all these
- 42:23different things going on? I think I I mentioned it with
- 42:29what the other guys at Big Night do, what Ed and Randy do really
- 42:32well, which is finding someone who's really passionate about
- 42:37something and allow them to run with it.
- 42:40And something I really, really struggled with was delegating
- 42:43tasks because I knew how I wanted something done.
- 42:47And for the most part I wasn't very good with systems, so I was
- 42:50the only one to do it. Now, if I'm the only one to do
- 42:53something, it's impossible for me to do more than one thing at
- 42:56a time. So the biggest piece for me has
- 42:59been being able to delegate tasks, being able to find
- 43:02someone who's passionate about it and maybe giving them
- 43:05something before they were ready for it as what happened to me.
- 43:10Not expecting things to go poorly, but expecting people to
- 43:13develop and learn from their mistakes rather than, you know,
- 43:17me not allowing them to make mistakes because I stepped in
- 43:19because I need it done this way. So I think having trust and
- 43:23having a great team and just managing expectations about what
- 43:27someone wants and how they can get there, it's really having a
- 43:31A-Team behind it. I wouldn't be able to do really
- 43:34any of these things if it wasn't for one, the team that trusts me
- 43:37to do this and then for me to take that trust and experience
- 43:40and do that with my team. What's the future of Big Night
- 43:45Fitness look like? Where are you guys going?
- 43:48Oh boy. Well, this facility we're in
- 43:50now, we are. We're finalizing A partnership
- 43:53deal with another affiliate or gym, but we're actually going to
- 43:58turn this into a public affiliate.
- 44:00So instead of it just being, you know, me and my friends and
- 44:03different people in town for big night, we're going to give
- 44:05everyone that same level of care and training to open this as a
- 44:10small gym. We're going to continue to
- 44:12expand on our on our digital platform with a couple of
- 44:17different partnerships we have from the on demand side of
- 44:20things. And whether that be, you know,
- 44:22in room hotels, people working out or, you know, getting people
- 44:27the right knowledge and basis to warm up for activities, whether
- 44:30it be on a, you know, a ski mountain or before going on a
- 44:33long run, or to get a general person from sitting on the couch
- 44:38to running a 5K. And we have a whole creative
- 44:41team that is unbelievable with photo and video that supports
- 44:45all the stuff and fitness. So I think expanding those is a
- 44:48big piece of it. And then also allowing support
- 44:51for other people that want to do the same thing, you know, for
- 44:55other nightclub areas, for different nightlife groups and
- 44:57say, Hey, how, how are you doing this?
- 44:59And then you know, now it's. Like a Consulting Group where
- 45:02you sort of help them set up their own system.
- 45:04Yeah, absolutely. Instead of being like, oh, don't
- 45:06take our ideas like, hey, no one has a trademark on fitness.
- 45:10People can work out anywhere they want.
- 45:12And instead of fighting against what I think is an incredible
- 45:15idea, which came from Ed and Randy, they were the ones who
- 45:18grabbed me because we had worked together to say, hey, we want to
- 45:21do this thing and help other people do the same.
- 45:24And I think just continuing to grow the community and still
- 45:29have a little, a small percentage of it open for new
- 45:32ideas. And what if the best of Big
- 45:35Night Fitness hasn't even shown up yet?
- 45:39That is, that is the daily goal of every entrepreneur, that the
- 45:45best has not happened yet. That's what gets us out of bed,
- 45:48right? Yeah.
- 45:50And it's if you're not open to that, if you're so single
- 45:53focused on one thing, you might miss something.
- 45:56But if I've learned anything from Ed and Randy, it's said,
- 46:00you know, sometimes something works really well on one day,
- 46:03and sometimes you have to completely pivot and figure out
- 46:05something else. But if they weren't able to do
- 46:08that, did miss out on this, you know, enormous opportunity of
- 46:14this card vault, which they started during the pandemic
- 46:17doing these like card vault breaks where, you know, I didn't
- 46:21think people even traded sports cards anymore.
- 46:23But it's a billion dollar business.
- 46:25And when they started doing that because they had recording
- 46:27studios and they had people that were passionate about it.
- 46:30And now the managing partner for that is, you know, in charge of
- 46:34this multi $1,000,000 company that they started because this
- 46:37guy was passionate about it. And there was an opportunity.
- 46:40If they just stuck with nightlife and restaurants, there
- 46:42would have been this would not have been on their table.
- 46:45And now it's a huge part of the business.
- 46:47And it just goes to show that you know, you have to, you have
- 46:50to be confident in what you're doing, but humble enough to know
- 46:53that you don't know everything. So in the store, in the parts of
- 46:58your story that we've talked about today so far, Connor,
- 47:01there there've been ups and downs, mostly UPS like what
- 47:03Mostly what we've talked about so far is how a lot of things
- 47:06have worked really well. I'd like to kind of flip that
- 47:10around and talk about something that didn't work so well.
- 47:13A real big challenge that you had to overcome in your life,
- 47:16how you got through that and what you learned.
- 47:18Oh man, there's a lot of them, that's for sure.
- 47:22You know, even even in Big Night Fitness, you know, the only
- 47:26reason why I know people don't want a gym membership to a
- 47:29nightclub is because we had weekly class offerings at a
- 47:31nightclub and they started off really odd and then it kind of
- 47:34tailed off. It lost its lust because it's
- 47:37only cool when it's cool rather than, you know, and when you're
- 47:41fighting to have four or five people show up to your class
- 47:43when 100 people showed up three weeks prior, you're like, well,
- 47:46what's the issue here? So seeing that being able to
- 47:48remove class from the schedule is a tough thing.
- 47:52You know, the wad on the WAVES cruise was amazing, but in 2020
- 47:57when the pandemic shut it down and, you know, there's this
- 48:00whole issue of we had all this stuff planned, we had a year's
- 48:03worth of this plan, and now it's gone, you know, and it still
- 48:06hasn't come back yet. Maybe I don't figure that as a
- 48:08loss, but I think why I'm able to adapt and deal with this
- 48:12stuff so much is from my experience in the Navy.
- 48:15And we had touched on it just a little bit about going into Navy
- 48:18Special warfare. It's a, it's a, it's a tough
- 48:21training pipeline. You have to be 100% committed to
- 48:23this. And as a 17, you know, 18 year
- 48:26old making this decision that this is what you're going to do
- 48:28with your life. You know, I had, I had some
- 48:32issues with my right elbow that presented issues and with combat
- 48:35diving. And if you don't have a jump
- 48:38dive physical, you can't operate in special operations.
- 48:41So after years of, you know, training in a pipeline to have
- 48:44it come back after you've achieved this goal that you
- 48:48thought was what you're going to do the rest of your life.
- 48:51You know, I, I had a surgery and then went into a dive office and
- 48:54essentially the, the dive officers were like, Hey, you're,
- 48:56you're not cleared. You are not going to be cleared
- 48:59to dive ever again. And without that, you know,
- 49:02imagine now you're telling this to a 20 year old that committed
- 49:05their whole life for this job. And now I can't do this job
- 49:08anymore. You know, what am I going to do?
- 49:11I wasn't going to go to college. Everything was, was for this my
- 49:15high school. I would, I would be that kid in
- 49:17class to say, what do I have to do to pass this class?
- 49:19It's the only thing that you know, it's the only thing that
- 49:22counts is that I passed. I didn't care about grades or
- 49:24scores or anything about that. I cared about, you know, being a
- 49:27Navy SEAL and operating and doing that job.
- 49:29And I was going to do it the rest of my life.
- 49:30And then when that was taken away, it's like, but I, I did
- 49:35all this to get there. Why, you know, why can't I, you
- 49:38know, what's the purpose? And I, when outside the Navy, I
- 49:41got civilian opinions to try to clear me and go against the
- 49:45Navy. And, you know, when when I ended
- 49:48up reluctantly saying, hey, you know, there's nothing I can do
- 49:51here. I got out of the Navy and I
- 49:54thought the world owed me something.
- 49:55I had such a negative attitude that, you know, I wanted people
- 49:58to feel bad for me that I did all this stuff.
- 50:00I accomplished the impossible. And now here I am, you know that
- 50:05it's all taken away from me and I met, I met a guy, Chris Irwin.
- 50:10I had actually moved to the Virgin Islands and I moved there
- 50:13not because I had this gym. I just dream of starting a
- 50:16CrossFit affiliate, the first one in the Virgin Islands, and
- 50:18having all this awesome stuff happened that happened
- 50:20afterwards because I didn't really give myself very many
- 50:24other options. I was like, well, I have friends
- 50:25down here, you know, I'll just go drink beers and be a
- 50:28bartender somewhere and then just kind of waste my life away.
- 50:32I met this guy, Chris Irwin, who was a he'd just gotten off of
- 50:36active duty after 14 years in the SEAL Teams.
- 50:39He had, He had worked himself up to the highest level, which from
- 50:43the SEAL Teams you can screen to go into what's called Devgrew or
- 50:46SEAL Team Developmental Group, also known as SEAL Team 6.
- 50:50And he had just come off active duty.
- 50:52He took a job down there with this, this kind of sales job,
- 50:55offered him a ton of money, moved his family down to the
- 50:57Virgin Islands, and they loved CrossFit too, and ended up
- 51:01coming across him. We actually had an interesting
- 51:03meeting our first time from me being this guy who wanted people
- 51:07to feel sorry for him, and then meeting someone who did the job
- 51:11from the top down and didn't expect anything from the world.
- 51:15It was just a job for him and he was like a silent mentor for me
- 51:19because he never told me what to do.
- 51:21He never told me not to feel sorry for myself, never told me
- 51:24any of this stuff. But the way that he lived his
- 51:27life and seeing what he had been through and how he still looks
- 51:31at the world was something I wanted to emulate.
- 51:35So it wasn't really until that time that I started turning
- 51:37things around like, Hey, you still have a lot of stuff going
- 51:40for you. Like it's not over yet just
- 51:42because that you put all your eggs into one basket and it
- 51:44didn't work out. It's not over.
- 51:46And and you're not going to be that person who feels sorry for
- 51:48you the rest of your life. And I had some friends that they
- 51:51kind of stuck by my side and not in the not in the hey, man, we
- 51:55support you no matter what. But when I moved to Saint Thomas
- 51:58that were like, hey, man, you're, you're worth more than
- 52:00what you're saying to go be some like bartender.
- 52:03And actually, I had one friend, Marino that, you know, I was
- 52:07having a going away party and he was the only one who came up to
- 52:09me. And he was like, Hey, I don't
- 52:11think this is the right move for you.
- 52:13You're you're you're meant for a whole lot more than this.
- 52:16And I don't want to hear from you unless you're doing
- 52:18something worth telling me. I don't want to hear about a
- 52:21crazy night you had getting drinks or going to do XYZI Don't
- 52:24want to hear about that because I think it's it's bullshit.
- 52:27I think that when you're finally doing something where you're
- 52:30following a career and a passion to live up to your potential,
- 52:33that's what I want to hear from you.
- 52:35And it was humbling to hear from someone who I thought was my
- 52:37friend. And at the time you're like,
- 52:39that's a rude thing to say. But that was one of those times
- 52:42when I was like, he was right. And I, I try to look back, you
- 52:46know, if I, I always want to be in a place where I look back a
- 52:49year from now and I think, man, I would have never believed I'd
- 52:52be in this spot. And it doesn't always have to
- 52:54be, doesn't always have to be from a financial standpoint or
- 52:57from a business standpoint, but even a mental standpoint of who
- 53:01I want to be. And, you know, there's always
- 53:03struggles that have come in and out of that.
- 53:05But I think that by having everything you wanted taken away
- 53:08from you and then finding a, a way to win, finding a, a will to
- 53:12succeed anyways was the biggest and best thing that's ever
- 53:15happened to me. As much as, you know, if you
- 53:17were to go back and say, Hey, you can, the rest of this life
- 53:20isn't going to be here, but you can, you know, operate in the
- 53:22teams. Still not sure I'd go, Hey, I
- 53:25want this other life. I'd be like, Oh, that's still
- 53:26what I wanted to do. But if it's not there, there's
- 53:29no, you can't dwell on it. You can't, you know, some things
- 53:31are out of your control and you fight hard for it, but there's
- 53:35always another opportunity. And that goes from from every
- 53:38aspect of you know, from if you're a, if you're homeless, if
- 53:42you are a drug addict, if you are create a business, invest a
- 53:45bunch of money, have your friends invest a bunch of stuff
- 53:47and it doesn't work out for you. It's like it's not over and it
- 53:51can be a failure, but it can also be a learning experience
- 53:53where you can be, you know, now 36 year old and think I've done
- 53:58everything I wanted to in life and more and I'm still living it
- 54:01and I'm still curious as to what's next.
- 54:05So there's some fun stuff to unpack in that.
- 54:07I appreciate you sharing all of it.
- 54:08You know, the first part of what you talked about to me is
- 54:14something we've talked about a lot on this show.
- 54:16You went through an identity crisis, right?
- 54:19Like your identity was tied up and you're going to be a Navy
- 54:22SEAL. That's what you, that's
- 54:24everything that you were working towards, all the fitness.
- 54:27I just want to pass this class in school.
- 54:28I don't care, But I, I just need to get from here to the Navy so
- 54:31I can become a SEAL. And then when that's taken away,
- 54:35all those years of your identity being tied up in something that,
- 54:39that, that rug is ripped out from underneath you and, and,
- 54:42and you feel lost, discombobulated.
- 54:45Like I knew where I fit into the world, my place in all of this
- 54:49before and and now it's taken away from me and I I'm just
- 54:53like, my head doesn't doesn't feel right anymore.
- 54:57And what I think was really cool about, you know, your experience
- 55:01there in the Virgin Islands, was this this Navy SEAL that you met
- 55:05who became. I think.
- 55:06I think the words that you used were a silent mentor.
- 55:10And as you said that, I'm like, I don't have any idea what that
- 55:13means. I know what a silent partner is,
- 55:15but, and I thought this is really cool.
- 55:18This is a guy that wasn't telling you things directly.
- 55:21He was just a living example of the way to carry yourself
- 55:26through the world. And when I heard you say that,
- 55:28I'd be curious to, you know, hear from listeners how it hit
- 55:32them. But I'm like, you know, I can
- 55:34take that into my life, like, so many times, whether it's with my
- 55:38kids or my, you know, my employees, whatever it is, I am
- 55:43like, you know, wagging my finger.
- 55:45This is the way that you should do it.
- 55:47I've been through this before. Let me just show you the way and
- 55:50do do exactly as I tell you to. But there's so, so much power
- 55:55and being able to, like your friend, just be the living
- 55:58example of the way to carry yourself through the world.
- 56:03Yeah, it's, it was at the time, I didn't really realize it until
- 56:08spending a little bit more time away from him.
- 56:10And I was like, I, I act in the way that he did that he didn't,
- 56:15you know, he wasn't consciously being like, do this or do that.
- 56:17And and that was even over the last couple of years, I tried to
- 56:22think of things as who do I look up to the most and what
- 56:27qualities and traits do they have and how can I be more like
- 56:31them? And, you know, I'm not a mental
- 56:33health expert, but, you know, I was working with a woman from
- 56:37the VA on just some mental health stuff.
- 56:39It wasn't that I was like in this huge rut, but something
- 56:42where I'm like, I still want to improve.
- 56:45She gave me the sheets from this like ACT program ACT.
- 56:48It's an acronym for something that I don't know, but it
- 56:51essentially had this list of categories and it said list how
- 56:55you feel from 1:00 to 10:00 on the importance of it.
- 56:59Family, friends, business, morals, religion, all of this
- 57:04stuff that's down there. And you circle where you want
- 57:07that to be, where you want your care or effort level to be.
- 57:11The next piece of paper was the exact same sheet of paper.
- 57:15And it was circle how you feel like you've done at each one of
- 57:19these categories this week. And it's like, oh man, I, I put
- 57:23family up here or, you know, reaching out and I haven't done
- 57:26anything about that. And, and the closer you can get
- 57:30and it doesn't matter where they need to be.
- 57:32It doesn't matter the first sheet.
- 57:33It doesn't matter if you're like, Hey, I just don't have a
- 57:36lot of care for my family, but I want to spend time with my
- 57:38friends or any of that. I truly believe the closer those
- 57:41two sheets can be to matching up, the happier you're going to
- 57:45be. It's intention and then putting
- 57:48behavior behind the intention. And when I saw where I was
- 57:53acting relative to the people that I've most looked up to,
- 57:57like, like my dad, for instance, was like, well, that's not
- 58:01really who I want to be. But if I really looked at it
- 58:04from a objective standpoint, not just where I wanted things to
- 58:07be, but where I was putting effort, I wasn't there.
- 58:11And when I started making those changes, I can tell you right
- 58:15now I'm the happiest I've ever been in my entire life.
- 58:17And it's because I'm just behaving in the same way that I
- 58:21want to behave. I'm seeing myself as the of what
- 58:25I want to see myself rather than, you know, putting all
- 58:29these, you know, all these different categories as family
- 58:32attend and all this stuff and then not acting in that way.
- 58:34But my intention was to have that.
- 58:36So I think that's just a huge part of it.
- 58:38And when you when you meet people like that, it's like,
- 58:41find out what they're doing, do what they're doing.
- 58:44What's your superpower, Connor? Gosh, my superpower is not
- 58:51having a superpower. It's trying to believe that I
- 58:53have one. No, I don't know.
- 58:55I think probably empathy would be my superpower.
- 58:58It's from from putting all my eggs in one basket and failing
- 59:03and realizing that, you know, everyone else is going through
- 59:07something. Everyone else has certain things
- 59:10that they struggle with, whether they are celebrity or whether
- 59:13they're, you know, someone who were, you know, pulling up on a
- 59:16medical call from a drug overdose.
- 59:19It's, it's the empathy that you can't always judge someone from
- 59:24where they're at in a moment. And I'm still an emotional guy.
- 59:28Like I'd cry at kids movies. I, I think that, I think that
- 59:33the, the more you can, you can try to find where someone is
- 59:37coming from, just the, the happier you're going to be in
- 59:40life or you're going to go through the life just pissed off
- 59:42all the time because people aren't acting the same way that
- 59:45you are or they're not, They don't believe the same things
- 59:47that you do. So I think just being able to
- 59:50get along with people and see that not other people's opinions
- 59:53are evil, even if they're completely different than yours.
- 59:56You know, there's, there's probably some common ground to
- 59:58have and being able to kind of swallow your pride a little bit
- 1:00:02to get to understand where that is.
- 1:00:04Is something that's definitely improved my life, but I wish I I
- 1:00:09wish I could teleport. That'd be that'd be ideal.
- 1:00:12If I could, if I could have any superpower, I would teleport.
- 1:00:14Teleportation. OK, well is that going to go on
- 1:00:18your list of here's my goal of where I want to be?
- 1:00:21And then ask yourself the question, what have you done to
- 1:00:23move towards that goal? I've watched Back to the Future
- 1:00:26a bunch of times, so I'm on the right path.
- 1:00:30I like it. I've just got one more question
- 1:00:32for you today, Connor. But before I ask it, I want to
- 1:00:34knock out a few things. First of all, if you want to get
- 1:00:36in touch with Connor Murphy, there are a few options for you
- 1:00:40here. Website bignightfitness.com.
- 1:00:44His personal e-mail address is connorandthatswithonenconor@bignight.com,
- 1:00:51connor@bignight.com. You can find them on socials at
- 1:00:57Big Night Fitness and Connor, do I have your personal one here
- 1:01:00correct? Is there AT in in there or did I
- 1:01:02mistype that? OK, so it's.
- 1:01:04Yeah, that's my middle initial. Connor T Murphy at Connor T
- 1:01:07Murphy. And remember that's Connor with
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- 1:01:34All right, last question for you, Connor, you and I reconnect
- 1:01:37one year from today and you're celebrating something big.
- 1:01:40What's that big thing you hope to be celebrating one year from
- 1:01:43now? Well, I think it'll be a couple
- 1:01:46of things. 1st is that, you know, with this contract about
- 1:01:51opening this gym up to being an affiliate, I don't, I don't care
- 1:01:55the, the revenue or, or how big or how many members we have.
- 1:01:59I want to be celebrating the, the changes that people have
- 1:02:01made, the success stories of the people in the gym, as well as
- 1:02:06just continued career. You know, I'm, I'm relatively
- 1:02:09early as a Boston firefighter. So just by learning the job and
- 1:02:13finding confidence in that. But yeah, I think, I think it's
- 1:02:20just, I think the biggest thing that I would like to have if we
- 1:02:24were to meet in the year would be the same curiosity to want to
- 1:02:30continue doing things that maybe I don't know anything about, to
- 1:02:33continue to be open to. Maybe I don't have the idea.
- 1:02:36Maybe this gym in a year, it actually turns into something
- 1:02:39that that I never thought possible.
- 1:02:42But one thing that I never want to do in my life is lose
- 1:02:44curiosity. I love that Connor T Murphy from
- 1:02:50Big Night Fitness. I want to be the first to thank
- 1:02:52you for sharing both your time and your story with us today.
- 1:02:55I really appreciate it. I appreciate you having me on
- 1:02:57here and again, I know I, I try not to say I don't like to talk
- 1:03:01about myself, but here we go again of, of, you know, an hour
- 1:03:05plus of me doing it. So thank you for the opportunity
- 1:03:07to that. And hopefully the story helped
- 1:03:09someone else to realize that there's always more.
- 1:03:13There's always more. Whether you're, whether you're
- 1:03:15happy or you're sad, there's there's always something that
- 1:03:17you can do and just keep going. 100%, folks, that's a wrap on
- 1:03:22another episode of the Inspired Stories podcast.
- 1:03:24Thanks for learning with us today.