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PGA DFS | Farmers Insurance Open | January 21, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the system's going clear. You lift up what's up?
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Speaker 1: Number one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo. Back
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Speaker 1: for another edition of our PGA show here on the
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Speaker 1: ship station, my guy Hoopster here with me. As always,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna break down all things Farmers Insurance open s.
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Speaker 1: Bring you in another field man. It's an early start
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Speaker 1: this week though. We got a Wednesday kickoff for this week.
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Speaker 1: They don't compete with the NFL for those wondering why,
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Speaker 1: So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday to wrap this thing up,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have all our coverage for the NFL
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Speaker 1: stuff Sunday morning, nine am Eastern OOP Title and myself
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Speaker 1: breaking down the championship NTC Championship. But who's going on?
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Speaker 2: Man?
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Speaker 1: How you doing?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do them all. You know. Another course rotation
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Speaker 2: thing here on the tour. This one's very clear on
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Speaker 2: one side's much easier than the other. The North plays
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Speaker 2: much easier. The South is kind of like the main
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Speaker 2: course and it's much more difficult to each play on.
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Speaker 2: They plan each side once and then the cut so
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Speaker 2: for showdown, pretty big advantage obviously. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 2: obviously at length on our showdown shows, but early start
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Speaker 2: is key and very smart to not go against the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Some of these other sports haven't figured it out yet.
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Speaker 2: You do not want to go head to head with
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Speaker 2: with NFL for TV ratings. But the PGA Tour has
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Speaker 2: kind of figured that out and starts this week early,
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Speaker 2: so Wednesday through Saturday. A little bit of a different dynamic.
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Speaker 2: I doubt that it does happen, but maybe a little
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Speaker 2: bit of potential for some overlays. So we'll have to
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Speaker 2: see as we get closer to a lot tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll check it out. How have you all covered
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Speaker 1: to more? We have everything over at the site ship
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Speaker 1: at nation dot com. Bring up some of that as
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Speaker 1: we go throughout the show. We got djens notes, might
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Speaker 1: need them for this field. Be some back and forth
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Speaker 1: arguments this week. Two non arguments, but you know, disagreements.
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Speaker 1: I guess if you will, about how weak or how
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Speaker 1: strong the field is. What's your take on it, Hoop,
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Speaker 1: When you looked at this field and saw it, do
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Speaker 1: you think, Wow, what a nice strong field for this
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Speaker 1: Farmer's Insurance open or is it still a weak field?
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Speaker 1: Do you what are your thoughts?
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Speaker 2: Very weak man? It's I don't know, it's unfore I
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Speaker 2: just really hope they get something going with the live too,
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Speaker 2: or obviously it's not going to happen this year most likely,
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Speaker 2: but man, just imagine if they had the pool of
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Speaker 2: those guys to mix into these events just ten. You know,
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Speaker 2: if if five to ten of those top guys on
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Speaker 2: live play in each and every one of these like
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Speaker 2: PGA Tour events, you just make the huge, huge difference.
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Speaker 2: So fingers crossed hopefully get the chance. But I mean,
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Speaker 2: in terms of DFS like it, Yes, if you find
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Speaker 2: some guys you like down in the low seven's and
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Speaker 2: six k range, you know, good for you, you're gonna
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Speaker 2: get them at like no ownership. But it like more
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Speaker 2: than I threw out the number and I don't know
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Speaker 2: the exact one, but sixty percent of the field is
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Speaker 2: virtually unplayable for DFS purposes. It really makes you know,
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Speaker 2: the ownership go to the top of the field because
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Speaker 2: those are the guys that everyone feels comfortable with. So
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Speaker 2: so you know, last year I was kind of making
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Speaker 2: the case where I feel like these events shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be full field events, like bring the number down,
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Speaker 2: we don't need this many guys. I understand why they
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Speaker 2: do it, but a lot of these guys are just
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Speaker 2: fully drawing dead every single time they tee it up.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'd like to see some changes.
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Speaker 2: I know a lot. The hot topic now is also
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Speaker 2: the pace of play. I'd definitely like to see that
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Speaker 2: in emphasis on that. I think it worked well in
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Speaker 2: baseball with the pitch clock, just keeping the game movement
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I think PGA Tour would definitely benefit
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Speaker 2: from a faster pace as well. So that's that's kind
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Speaker 2: of where I'm at.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to it here. I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: That's what my takeaway was on it. Just to let
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Speaker 1: everybody know that once in this is the code ship.
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Speaker 1: Fifty is the best deal we've had and the best
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Speaker 1: deal will have for a long time. This is a
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Speaker 1: chance to get fifty dollars off your first month, so
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Speaker 1: you can take the ninety nine dollars down to forty
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Speaker 1: nine bucks. And that's gonna get you the playoffs for football,
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Speaker 1: the last two games coming up this Sunday. That's gonna
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Speaker 1: get you through super Bowl. It's gonna get you the NBA, NHL.
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Speaker 1: We've got MMA. I think it's back February first, just
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Speaker 1: had a big pay per view, but coming back here
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Speaker 1: shortly and then of course all the PGA stuff that
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Speaker 1: you're here for and listening to all the tools you'll
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Speaker 1: see us use. I'm gonna pull up the stone today
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Speaker 1: to show that one off. We're gonna check out djens notes,
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Speaker 1: go through that. Our guy Lee has his course fit rankings,
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Speaker 1: have some good, good good success with those that we found.
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Speaker 1: Then all the other stuff that you would expect, projections, ownership,
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Speaker 1: you could load it into ship Deemizer. That deal is
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Speaker 1: with our optimizer ship Deemizer. So just check it out
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Speaker 1: if you guys want to there the field there, I
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Speaker 1: mean the check kinds of agrees right right away. Ross
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Speaker 1: said week everyone was looking at that, but it's yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's one thing or the other. I know, everybody plays
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Speaker 1: the same course and so you know, same courses over
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Speaker 1: the first two days, all of us DFS players are
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Speaker 1: playing the same event with the same players. But to
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Speaker 1: your point, who eighty eight guys from sixty nine hundred
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Speaker 1: and below forty three golfers in the seven K range.
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Speaker 1: You know, pick your poison in that and you can
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Speaker 1: build it. But the good news is we do kind
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Speaker 1: of know sort of where or at least somewhat where
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Speaker 1: ownership is going up top and whatnot. So if you
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Speaker 1: can just pick your guys that you want to play,
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Speaker 1: I think you can almost do what you say all
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Speaker 1: the time and just pick your guys up top that
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Speaker 1: you want to play and then get different with some
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Speaker 1: of the guys down below, because just don't see very
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Speaker 1: many guys getting to that you know, sixteen seventeen, eighteen
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Speaker 1: percent ownership area. When you get to that seven K
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Speaker 1: range and below, it's just no way because it's overly spread.
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Speaker 2: Out right, Yeah, I agree, and you'll see a lot
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Speaker 2: of people, you know, ending their teams at the same spot.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just at a quick glance going through the field,
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Speaker 2: it looks like once you get to the mid seven
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Speaker 2: it seems like there's a pretty big drop off. So
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to build team, you know,
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Speaker 2: trying to stop there. So doing something a little bit different,
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Speaker 2: you know than that sort of roster construction could could
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Speaker 2: make your teams a little bit unique. We'll talk about
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Speaker 2: all that stuff. I mean, that's the important stuff at
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Speaker 2: this point in the season to really discuss and dive into,
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Speaker 2: you know, the roster construction stuff, what the popular build
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Speaker 2: they're going to be, how to get off those builds,
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Speaker 2: And that's you know, to be an emphasis of this show,
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Speaker 2: not necessarily just oh, pick some plays. I like this guy,
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Speaker 2: the guy we're going to offer us. We have that
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Speaker 2: on the website. You know, my player pool, your sleep
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Speaker 2: and core things like that. But the real conversation of
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Speaker 2: this show and the direction we want to go with
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Speaker 2: it is, you know, taking that next step, not just
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Speaker 2: who we like, but how you go about building these teams.
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Speaker 2: The correlation stuff, the roster, construction stuff. That's what we
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Speaker 2: really want to focus on here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely trying to tie that in. I want to
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Speaker 1: show this off quickly, just before I'm loading up one thing.
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Speaker 1: I want to see if it'll load for us, But
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Speaker 1: before I do, we usually don't show this off. It
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Speaker 1: is just the rough draft. So I don't feel bad
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Speaker 1: about this, but I really don't know how people go
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Speaker 1: about their week. Again, everybody has their own process. But
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Speaker 1: I like having everything in one place. And I talked
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Speaker 1: about this last week when we did the show about
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Speaker 1: you know, every site has different angles and options and
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Speaker 1: offerings and all these different things, and good for them,
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Speaker 1: good for us, but the point being, I don't know
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Speaker 1: how you would go about it without having this all
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Speaker 1: in one place, and that's why I love the stone.
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Speaker 1: So just to show it off quickly so people see it.
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Speaker 1: You've got the golfers their prices on both sites. Their
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Speaker 1: ownership for DraftKings FanDuel can be a bit of a
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Speaker 1: tricky one to figure out, but we do have the
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Speaker 1: DraftKings projections and the FanDuel projections adjusted for the scoring.
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Speaker 1: You've got your tee times when they go off round
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Speaker 1: one and round two. You've got their course rotation on
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Speaker 1: a week like this, super important, knowing that Ludwig starts
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Speaker 1: on the North course then goes to the South course,
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Speaker 1: win equity, top twenty percentage, made cut percentage, and then
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Speaker 1: you get a grade system for their recent form, their
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Speaker 1: event history, and we've even tied our course fit rankings
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Speaker 1: onto the sheet as well. And then it's just price
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Speaker 1: relationship between DraftKings and fanduels. So you need weather. You
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Speaker 1: can get the course forecast here. You can download it
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Speaker 1: as a PDF. You download it and edit it if
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Speaker 1: you're on mobile. Pdf works really well just to pull
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Speaker 1: it up on your phone, so you don't even need
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Speaker 1: to be at a desktop or a laptop. It is
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Speaker 1: best viewed here, but PDF file works without. And then
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Speaker 1: if you want to edit it. I've had some chats
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Speaker 1: with people over the past couple of weeks and say,
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Speaker 1: my bias just gets in the way. Yeah, leave all
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Speaker 1: the color coding and just delete the names up the
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Speaker 1: side and see if you can build some lineups and
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Speaker 1: stop worrying about the names in some cases. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: part of it. But anything else you want to add there, hoop.
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Speaker 1: If not, I'm going to pull up what I what
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Speaker 1: I grabbed here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the nice thing about this, I mean
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Speaker 2: it can be used in a variety of ways. I
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Speaker 2: mean it can be used for a starting point just
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Speaker 2: to go through and look at pricing, you know, see
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Speaker 2: the T Times that sort of thing. You can obviously
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Speaker 2: use it for very deep purposes as well when you
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Speaker 2: start going in and you know, developing your player pool.
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Speaker 2: Can use it for showdown as you can see here
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Speaker 2: we got the T times, we have the course rotation stuff.
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Speaker 2: You can just use it from start to finish in
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Speaker 2: your process. And that's the key. I mean, it has
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Speaker 2: just everything in one spot. I mean you can really,
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Speaker 2: you know, literally come in here, develop your player pool,
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Speaker 2: start building your team right off of this sheet, which
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Speaker 2: is you know, makes the process, which simplifies the process. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: we know we want people to be you know, become
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Speaker 2: better players. That's the whole goal of this is to
9:14
Speaker 2: make you a better player at DFS. This tool right
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Speaker 2: here kind of brings everything together into one spot and
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Speaker 2: simplifies the process for people.
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Speaker 1: Allows you to make it your own too, not just
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Speaker 1: following the others. Obviously, that stuff's there if you need it,
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Speaker 1: but with it being the rough draft, I'll just fill
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Speaker 1: in one more thing and I'm gonna pull up the
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Speaker 1: dry run. I got to work today for PGA, so
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pu up a dry round. We can get
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Speaker 1: some ideas people like that. But there is a tutorial
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Speaker 1: on every page, so if you want to learn a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about how to use it when you're
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Speaker 1: a member, we make that way. The main thing you're
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Speaker 1: missing when you get the main one if you do
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Speaker 1: sign up, use code ship fifty to get that fifty
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Speaker 1: bucks off and just pay forty nine dollars is we
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Speaker 1: do highlight our pivots, sleepers and high leverage plays. A
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Speaker 1: lot of that's to do with ownership not just subjective
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Speaker 1: to say this is a sleeper as much as the
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Speaker 1: things we're seeing that lead to that. On top of
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Speaker 1: lower ownership, good projection still, you know, decent ceiling all
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Speaker 1: these different options. Then we highlight cash options high upside,
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Speaker 1: and then for gpp O like tournament style non cash options,
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Speaker 1: we'll look at the chalk and see like our guy DJA,
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Speaker 1: who will be on tonight this week with the early start,
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Speaker 1: so just noting that of who the who the good
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Speaker 1: or bad chalk is, and then the best to worst
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Speaker 1: is actually as it pertains towards. If there was weather,
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Speaker 1: we would note the tea times for that. So all
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Speaker 1: that's there, you guys can check it out. We're going
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Speaker 1: to shipdemizer. This is our optimizer so that you guys
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Speaker 1: can see. And I ran the dry run hoop and
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Speaker 1: here's what we got a lot of Padeki, a lot
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Speaker 1: of Sung Jay, which is interesting because we've got Ludwig
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Speaker 1: Oberg as the top price golfer on the week finales
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Speaker 1: up there, Keegan, Bradley, Grazerman, all these guys, and then
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Speaker 1: it gets to sort of what you said. You can
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Speaker 1: see where people are landing, and it's the seventy three
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Speaker 1: seventy four hundred dollars range with smally Vegas, Stevens Griffin's
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, but this is the first look.
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Speaker 1: It wants to put ninety two Percentdeki in with the
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Speaker 1: you know, just the standard settings that we have on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean the main takeaway is it's gonna
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Speaker 2: be relatively simple to play two expensive guys, two guys
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Speaker 2: in the ten k range, and that's probably where a
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Speaker 2: lot of teams go. Like a lot of people are
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to say, all right, if I start
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Speaker 2: with Sung J and then I play adeki with them,
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Speaker 2: let's just you know, use the example right there. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I still have seventy three hundred dollars left. I don't
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Speaker 2: have to go to the six K range. I really
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Speaker 2: don't have to go super low into the sevens. So
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Speaker 2: I play one cheaper guy. If you play find a
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Speaker 2: seven K guy you like, then you're right back to
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Speaker 2: the mid sevens for your last three spots. And I
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Speaker 2: do think that's gonna be a very common roster construction
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Speaker 2: no matter who it is, whether it's a DECKI, whether
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Speaker 2: it's Ludvig, whether it's you know, fee now Sung J,
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Speaker 2: like I think two of those guys up top will
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Speaker 2: be a very common build, and like the pricing is
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Speaker 2: not great. I mean, i'd like regardless of the field,
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Speaker 2: I'd just like to see somebody whoever the most expensive
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Speaker 2: guy be closer like that twelve K range or eleven
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Speaker 2: to five or something like that. Keeping these guys under
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Speaker 2: eleven and having this weaker field just gonna push a
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Speaker 2: lot of the ownership to the top. So I do
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Speaker 2: think overall roster construction thoughts right out of the gate,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of guys, a lot of
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Speaker 2: teams that start with two guys in the ten K,
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Speaker 2: regardless of who it ends up being, because it does
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Speaker 2: look like a little bit of a drop off when
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Speaker 2: you look at the names going from Sun j to
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Speaker 2: Keegan Bradley, even like it's only one hundred dollars difference
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Speaker 2: on DK, but a lot of people in their head
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Speaker 2: are gonna say, man, those guys should be priced far apart.
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Speaker 2: So I think people do see a different tier here
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Speaker 2: with the ten K and above options. So yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: this indicates it, and I think it is does end
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Speaker 2: up being true where a lot of teams are gonna
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Speaker 2: start with two guys ten K and above.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think there's a couple of
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Speaker 1: things you have to make a decision on because it's
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Speaker 1: not also obviously it is I always as not who
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Speaker 1: you play, it's how you play them.
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Speaker 2: In the end.
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Speaker 1: The result is who you play because of the guys
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Speaker 1: that come through. But just looking at it going in
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Speaker 1: and we don't know the result or what that final
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Speaker 1: puzzle does look like with the results of the slate,
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Speaker 1: It's like you said, it doesn't matter if you're going
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Speaker 1: Ludwig over Hideki here or if you're going instead, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go Ludwig and will Zalatorus. Like that may be
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Speaker 1: a common build as well, it's just somehow, in some way,
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Speaker 1: people are getting to this. So I think the biggest
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Speaker 1: decisions when you take these guys out, because just to
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Speaker 1: show it, I guess I'll leave it for two seconds.
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Speaker 1: That puts you right in the sweet spot of seventy
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Speaker 1: three hundred where if you sort by value on the
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Speaker 1: slate Smally Vegas, stevens Hodges, England, look at all these
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Speaker 1: guys in that range. So it's just gonna make a
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Speaker 1: match made in heaven of these people just falling together
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Speaker 1: these golfers falling together into these lineups, so you have
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Speaker 1: to evaluate it. I think when you go back by
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Speaker 1: price for a second and decide what do these nine
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Speaker 1: k guys mean to you? Because if Lowry Thigala day,
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Speaker 1: some of these guys are getting loaded no ownership, Grazerman
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Speaker 1: way way up again at ninety seven after a good
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Speaker 1: week at ninety two, Keegan right there with Sung Jay.
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Speaker 1: So if you're seeing these guys and not valuing them,
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Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to start here and get different
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Speaker 1: down below. But if you can move past these guys
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Speaker 1: and go to these guys or maybe a couple of
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Speaker 1: these guys and then an extra pay up, your next
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Speaker 1: decision will come later when we get down to how
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Speaker 1: much do you value the real quote unquote values of
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Speaker 1: the slate, because they rate out the best based on
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Speaker 1: their projection and point per dollar versus. I told you
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Speaker 1: there's eighty eight golfers in the six case, Sure, fifty
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Speaker 1: of them you can probably throw out the window, maybe
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Speaker 1: even sixty seventy. But the point being there's definitely options
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Speaker 1: here in the upper six is that you know Super
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Speaker 1: played good till he didn't last week. You know we've
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Speaker 1: played Shank Phillips, Lanto Griffin, Joseph Bramlet, Adam Spence in
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Speaker 1: low sevens. So there's a lot of guys you could
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Speaker 1: go to down here to be able to squeeze somebody
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Speaker 1: else in top hoop. What is your thoughts here on
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Speaker 1: these four golfers.
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Speaker 2: Cut out there for a sec, I'm going to disconnect
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Speaker 2: and reconnect. But you know, so for me, I think
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Speaker 2: the one that does have a chance to get squeezed
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Speaker 2: a little bit is Tony f you know, has not
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Speaker 2: been playing all that well. I had what what do
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Speaker 2: you have, like surgery or something, so that had some
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Speaker 2: sort of injury coming into him. Missed the cut at
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Speaker 2: the American Express, which you know, a weaker field should
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Speaker 2: have easily been able to make the cut and find
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Speaker 2: some success. So I think at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: in this upper range, he's the one that probably comes
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Speaker 2: in the lowest zone. Sun Jay obviously had that really
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Speaker 2: bad first round last week shoot in the seventy seven,
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Speaker 2: but did bounce back nicely and honestly people like playing him,
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Speaker 2: so I think they're going to be willing to forgive
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Speaker 2: him more than than Tony Fino. Hideki has been pretty solid,
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Speaker 2: won the century obviously, and then the T sixteen at
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Speaker 2: the Sony and then Ludvig up top. You know, just
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Speaker 2: appears to be the best, and this course seems to
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Speaker 2: just fit him, should fit him very very well. You know.
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Speaker 2: For me, he's probably my favorite up here. So if
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Speaker 2: choosing anyone who would be Ludvig, then probably Sung Jay,
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Speaker 2: then Hideki, and then Tony Fena. I kind of him
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Speaker 2: in that order. It's probably that the order of ownership.
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Speaker 1: Jeez, we're getting crushed today on all fronts now. Now
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Speaker 1: Hoopster's gone, so a lot to see. If he hops
16:11
Speaker 1: back in here, we'll roll one for now and I'll
16:12
Speaker 1: click it back when he comes back. Hopefully my mic
16:14
Speaker 1: is good. I was just about to check it with him,
16:16
Speaker 1: but if you want to let me know in the chat,
16:18
Speaker 1: just make sure it's all good. One thing he was
16:19
Speaker 1: talking about there was with Ludwig, and I will note
16:23
Speaker 1: that there is some interesting ways to go here. First
16:25
Speaker 1: of all, I do think with our projections, even with
16:27
Speaker 1: other projections out there, and just sort of what I'm
16:29
Speaker 1: hearing from people is there still is a lot of
16:31
Speaker 1: love for these other options. With Hideki and Sung Jay.
16:35
Speaker 1: Is my mic back, I know you're back, but is
16:37
Speaker 1: there good.
16:37
Speaker 2: We get some technical difficulty. The kids are home from
16:40
Speaker 2: school for a cold day, so I'm sure they're using
16:42
Speaker 2: up all the internet over here. So I'll just finish
16:44
Speaker 2: up what I was saying ten can above like I
16:47
Speaker 2: prefer it's I don't know where I cut up, but Ludwig, Sun,
16:50
Speaker 2: Jay Ducky, and Tony Fenw is my initial ranking on
16:53
Speaker 2: those and those that's kind of the you know, rank
16:56
Speaker 2: of preferred ownership probably for me and with Tony Fow.
16:59
Speaker 2: I don't know what are your thoughts on him. I'd
17:01
Speaker 2: almost be fine not playing him this week.
17:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be in still because I think
17:05
Speaker 1: nobody really wants to play him, and he sort of
17:07
Speaker 1: squeezes that range. So I'm good there. But I was
17:08
Speaker 1: gonna say, what's funny is you know my mic stopped
17:11
Speaker 1: and you did like a mic drop. You said your piece.
17:14
Speaker 1: It actually went perfect.
17:15
Speaker 2: To the end.
17:17
Speaker 1: Tommy was like, you were like, there's my takes, I'm
17:19
Speaker 1: out for the day. You just you handle the rest.
17:21
Speaker 1: So I'm glad my Mike is back. I was just
17:23
Speaker 1: mentioning your Ludwig take. I like quite a bit because
17:26
Speaker 1: I do think, you know, as much as he's still
17:28
Speaker 1: going to get ownership, and we know that, and it
17:30
Speaker 1: feels like he should get all of it. A lot
17:32
Speaker 1: of these projections and odd sites and things like that
17:35
Speaker 1: are still pushing Hideki up where Hideki and Sung Jay
17:38
Speaker 1: are getting some love. So I think Ludwig will still
17:40
Speaker 1: have ownership, no problem. But if you wanted to get
17:42
Speaker 1: different with him, you could play Ludwig and I try
17:45
Speaker 1: and treat this kind of like other DFS sports houp
17:47
Speaker 1: where it's like with PGA, I look at it like NFL,
17:50
Speaker 1: like if I'm gonna be on you know, go back
17:53
Speaker 1: to like a Barkley Versus Henry situation. If I'm gonna
17:56
Speaker 1: be on Lamar Jackson, I might be on bark with
18:00
Speaker 1: him instead of Henry. If I'm gonna be on Jalen Hurtz,
18:03
Speaker 1: I might be on Henry because I want to flip
18:05
Speaker 1: and play. If I'm on this quarterback, then who's then
18:07
Speaker 1: maybe it's the running back that takes the work. If
18:09
Speaker 1: you're agreeing that this ten k range is still better
18:12
Speaker 1: than this nine k range and you think Ludwig is
18:15
Speaker 1: the guy up here, then you could take Ludwig and
18:17
Speaker 1: just skip the nines all together instead of trying to
18:20
Speaker 1: pinpoint who the guy that you want to get right
18:22
Speaker 1: is and then hop down some of your guys that
18:24
Speaker 1: you've talked about in the past. But Mav, Pendrith, Holma, Clanton,
18:29
Speaker 1: Sea wu Rye, like, there's definitely guys in there that
18:32
Speaker 1: you could play. And if these are like a couple
18:34
Speaker 1: of your favorite you know, let's just I'm not for you.
18:36
Speaker 1: I'm just saying somebody out that's watching, like Mav and Pendrith,
18:39
Speaker 1: this is a pretty good start to a lineup, and
18:41
Speaker 1: you have about seventy two hundred left Versus most people
18:44
Speaker 1: have two ten K guys have no nines or eights.
18:48
Speaker 1: You now have a ten K with two high eight
18:50
Speaker 1: k that probably could be nine K guys. So I
18:53
Speaker 1: don't hate builds like this, just looking early on, and
18:55
Speaker 1: that's kind of as far as you need to go
18:57
Speaker 1: sometimes in single entry.
18:58
Speaker 2: And stuff, certainly, And I agree, and I like that
19:01
Speaker 2: sort of built. I think this week as well. I mean,
19:04
Speaker 2: people are going to look at that nine K range
19:06
Speaker 2: and see a drop off from the ten K range
19:08
Speaker 2: that they're gonna look at these guys in the nine
19:10
Speaker 2: K range and say, man, these guys are nowhere near
19:13
Speaker 2: you know, Ludevig or Hideki or even sung Jay. But
19:16
Speaker 2: you get two of them, you get two chances basically
19:18
Speaker 2: for the price of one. Is how I view it.
19:20
Speaker 2: So I do like that. And by the way, I
19:21
Speaker 2: didn't get to get to my rant right out of
19:23
Speaker 2: the gate. But they all had Sepstraka last week. Are
19:26
Speaker 2: you surprised they all had it again? Every single one
19:29
Speaker 2: about Yeah?
19:31
Speaker 1: I know, like a couple of my friends did definitely
19:33
Speaker 1: have Sep and they were on heavy. But I don't
19:35
Speaker 1: think Sep is the crazy one because steps odds weren't
19:38
Speaker 1: super crazy. What was he like fifty or sixty to one's.
19:42
Speaker 2: I couldn't bring myself to tweet abo. I was like,
19:44
Speaker 2: you know what, I just can't do it. I mean,
19:46
Speaker 2: if people people don't see it at this point, I
19:48
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell them. But it's like it's
19:50
Speaker 2: literally every single week they're all on there victory lapping
19:54
Speaker 2: the outright for whoever wins the golf tournament. It is
19:57
Speaker 2: absolutely insane still to this day, like about it. And
20:01
Speaker 2: only one guy and he's definitely very respected by me
20:04
Speaker 2: and you as our guy. Noo Hamber's down the tickets like,
20:08
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you know I was on them and this
20:10
Speaker 2: was at the end of last season last year. Our
20:12
Speaker 2: guy NOTO good dude, but man, like these guys just
20:16
Speaker 2: pumping this every single week like it is. It's tough.
20:19
Speaker 2: Man again, it should be easy, like I can just
20:21
Speaker 2: unfollow or mute and not have to see this shit
20:24
Speaker 2: on Twitter act what everyone call it. But man, it
20:28
Speaker 2: is tough and d and you know what's coming though,
20:29
Speaker 2: like every single week, like you know it's coming. Whoever
20:32
Speaker 2: wins the guy. It's usually around six Eastern when these
20:35
Speaker 2: golf tournaments finish up. You know, you know, you're just
20:38
Speaker 2: getting the inflex of oh gosh, anothery're outright, I hit it.
20:41
Speaker 2: These guys should be the richest motherfuckers out there. They
20:44
Speaker 2: should be the richest dudes out there hitting golf outrights
20:47
Speaker 2: every single week, every single week they hit it. Why
20:49
Speaker 2: are they like grinding out content if they can hit
20:54
Speaker 2: the outright every week? That's my new question.
20:56
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because now that we're on it,
20:57
Speaker 1: we just got to run with them. We'll go this
20:59
Speaker 1: is a bit, but it's too into something else. So
21:00
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this. So, what is the bigger
21:03
Speaker 1: issue for you? Because these guys that you're speaking of
21:07
Speaker 1: do put out their cards before the tournament's star of them,
21:11
Speaker 1: they like ninety percent of them do. The ones you're
21:13
Speaker 1: seeing most likely have that.
21:14
Speaker 2: But now it's like, oh, I was on a podcast
21:16
Speaker 2: and if you go to the timestamp of twenty three
21:19
Speaker 2: minutes and fifty five seconds, I said that I thought
21:23
Speaker 2: he was a decent long shot at his odds. So
21:26
Speaker 2: now like just going on a podcast and mentioning it
21:29
Speaker 2: is enough to take the victory lap. So yeah, there
21:31
Speaker 2: are some people that put the cards out there. They
21:33
Speaker 2: celebrate it, but it's like, okay, like show us that
21:37
Speaker 2: you you won some money making these bets, Like I
21:40
Speaker 2: just again, it goes back to it's twofold. It's like
21:43
Speaker 2: a lot of them don't have it, and then they
21:45
Speaker 2: say they have it, but they really have it, so
21:47
Speaker 2: they just have to say they have it, but they
21:49
Speaker 2: don't have the ticket to back it up. Like I'd
21:51
Speaker 2: be out there celebrating, Man, I just hit one hundred
21:53
Speaker 2: to one. Here's my ticket. I bet one hundred dollars
21:56
Speaker 2: and I won ten thousand bucks. Like that'd be great. Yeah,
21:59
Speaker 2: it's fun. None of them ever have it, man, None
22:01
Speaker 2: of them have it.
22:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. See I saw a couple posting it,
22:04
Speaker 1: and it's something that I don't even you know, hang
22:06
Speaker 1: out with or talk too much. But I will say
22:08
Speaker 1: to your point, yeah, like they'll put the cardo, but
22:10
Speaker 1: did they actually bet it? That's the question. Seems like
22:12
Speaker 1: that's always like what you're you're mentioning it is like okay,
22:14
Speaker 1: and if you did have it out there, where's the ticket?
22:17
Speaker 1: Like you don't.
22:18
Speaker 2: I don't want to drag you into this though. I
22:19
Speaker 2: mean it's a lot of I mean, you're you're friends
22:21
Speaker 2: with a lot of these guys, and you know that's
22:24
Speaker 2: just you don't even have to respond when I go
22:26
Speaker 2: on my rants. You can just like all right, here's hoops.
22:29
Speaker 2: Time let them go. We'll get back to the DFS
22:32
Speaker 2: side of things, like you don't. You don't have to
22:33
Speaker 2: get involved, you definitely don't.
22:35
Speaker 1: I'm industry friendly, man. I just like to know what's
22:38
Speaker 1: going on. I like to get the takes and I
22:40
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. And that's why I said I
22:41
Speaker 1: think some people do it. Obviously it's tougher and DFS
22:44
Speaker 1: we can't be like, oh man, I got everything right,
22:46
Speaker 1: this will let did you but did you win anything?
22:48
Speaker 1: And then we usually are posting it. But it's funny
22:50
Speaker 1: because we'll take the other way where it's like, oh,
22:52
Speaker 1: you didn't, you don't, you don't post everything? You know,
22:54
Speaker 1: you don't want our damn tax return on there sometimes
22:57
Speaker 1: or something. So I get it from both sides. It
22:59
Speaker 1: was important to what the follow up was. But moving on,
23:02
Speaker 1: we'll go to the nine k range. The check is
23:04
Speaker 1: kind of hating on it, I think a little bit.
23:06
Speaker 1: But the nine k range of you know, the Lowry's,
23:09
Speaker 1: the Figalas, the Grazerman's, the Bradleys. What's your take on
23:13
Speaker 1: the caliber of this nine k range and how you
23:15
Speaker 1: think they can perform here?
23:17
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'd probably like it a little more than
23:21
Speaker 2: the field. And and you know, in terms of ownership
23:23
Speaker 2: again where we think a lot of people go to
23:25
Speaker 2: the ten k range. There are some names that stand
23:28
Speaker 2: out to me. I think like the will Zala Taurus
23:31
Speaker 2: situation is very interesting. I'm glad that he actually has
23:34
Speaker 2: a real price at ninety five hundred because to me,
23:37
Speaker 2: I think he's going to turn the corner. I mean,
23:38
Speaker 2: obviously had the injury. It was a rough last last year,
23:41
Speaker 2: but starting to see some solid signs here, and he's
23:45
Speaker 2: a guy I want to be ahead of the curve
23:47
Speaker 2: on opposed to waiting to see like, okay, you know
23:51
Speaker 2: he's top five, now let's get back on him. That's
23:53
Speaker 2: when everyone's going to get back on him. I think
23:55
Speaker 2: it's a good opportunity to get on him early. I
23:57
Speaker 2: think he has a good season, obviously grinding, he's playing
24:01
Speaker 2: all these events, so I am interested in him. Grazerman's
24:04
Speaker 2: another guy that kind of stands out. He's a guy
24:06
Speaker 2: I think could kind of turn the corner this year.
24:08
Speaker 2: Ninety seven hundred has been playing solid golf. He's playing
24:11
Speaker 2: all these events for the most part, and he's been good,
24:14
Speaker 2: you know, twenty fourth at the Century and then seventh
24:17
Speaker 2: at the American Express. So I do like him a
24:20
Speaker 2: little bit. Guys like Thigala, I mean, I think you
24:24
Speaker 2: can always mix him in, Like he's a guy I
24:26
Speaker 2: never want to pay a big premium for. But you know,
24:29
Speaker 2: nine ninety one hundred a lot of boomer bust stuff.
24:32
Speaker 2: You know, he hasn't been great lately. Somewhat interested. But
24:35
Speaker 2: the two names for me, definitely in this range that
24:38
Speaker 2: that standouts plays is going to be Grazerman at ninety
24:41
Speaker 2: seven and Xalaturus at at ninety five. I mean that's
24:46
Speaker 2: both those guys I think, you know, have the chance
24:49
Speaker 2: to do some damage this week.
24:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat mentioned a little bit. I think willi
24:53
Speaker 1: Z's definitely steaming up, like people are interested the starting
24:55
Speaker 1: line up we talked about earlier. Regardless of who the
24:58
Speaker 1: first guy is, it's you know, the second guy can
25:00
Speaker 1: be will Zalatorus quite easily, so I think that's fine.
25:03
Speaker 1: It lands you in about the same range, tons of
25:05
Speaker 1: ways to get different with it. Doesn't mean go away
25:07
Speaker 1: from it. It's just an example to show you. I
25:10
Speaker 1: do like Jason Day. I thought he would be a
25:12
Speaker 1: lot more popular here. He played great last week. He
25:14
Speaker 1: crushes it at this course, it seems like because there's
25:17
Speaker 1: enough love for the guys above him, including sal, it's
25:20
Speaker 1: gonna take away from Jason Day. So we'll see how
25:22
Speaker 1: it all shapes up as the week. So I guess
25:24
Speaker 1: the weekends early and then so tomorrow morning before things happen.
25:28
Speaker 1: But still this is just something to keep in mind.
25:30
Speaker 1: So him and then Thigala being right there as well
25:33
Speaker 1: is another one who's interesting because usually we like him.
25:35
Speaker 1: It's probably just the best buy pricing the fact that
25:38
Speaker 1: he's not best buy pricing in eighty nine hundred, he's
25:40
Speaker 1: ninety one, So it kind of throws it off a
25:42
Speaker 1: little bit for the range that he's in. But I'm
25:43
Speaker 1: always interested in him and taking a shot on him
25:45
Speaker 1: in Cali, I'll be interested in Thigala there at the
25:48
Speaker 1: bottom too, so you know, day Thigala, and then I'm
25:52
Speaker 1: more interested in this upper eight k. So I already
25:54
Speaker 1: mentioned who a couple of ways you could do it,
25:56
Speaker 1: but just going back for two seconds, even if you
25:59
Speaker 1: go like your Grazerman Zal, you can get another guy
26:03
Speaker 1: in like you could get a Thigala in, and you
26:05
Speaker 1: still end up in that same seventy three range.
26:09
Speaker 2: And that should be different. I mean, then you definitely
26:11
Speaker 2: definitely should be different, because again I do think a
26:14
Speaker 2: lot of people start somewhere in the ten k range,
26:16
Speaker 2: whether it's uh Ludwig, Daki, Sung Jay or even Fina.
26:21
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people want the perceived security
26:24
Speaker 2: of one of those guys.
26:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's going to be the case where
26:29
Speaker 1: you know, Zal's most often going to be the second
26:34
Speaker 1: with a ten k or the first guy in in
26:37
Speaker 1: a balance build versus if you do something like with
26:39
Speaker 1: Keegan or Grazerman. Here, you like Grazerman, you end up
26:42
Speaker 1: putting him as your second guy in, but not with
26:45
Speaker 1: a ten K guy. So it makes a little bit
26:46
Speaker 1: different that way also, So I think that's another one
26:49
Speaker 1: to look at there. You had some you know, back
26:51
Speaker 1: and forth takes. We've only done a couple of these
26:53
Speaker 1: shows so far together this year. But the eight K range.
26:56
Speaker 1: One week you liked it, the one week you were
26:57
Speaker 1: off of it. So we got to get your eight
26:59
Speaker 1: K range before we get those though, I will say,
27:02
Speaker 1: where's Johnny Man? He might be onto something here. We
27:05
Speaker 1: got the food segment that we do at the end
27:07
Speaker 1: of all the football shows. We may need to get
27:09
Speaker 1: a grind my Gears segment where you can tell us
27:12
Speaker 1: what really grinds your gears.
27:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could add that to the list. But yeah,
27:17
Speaker 2: in regards to PJ, I mean, you guys know what
27:19
Speaker 2: my segment's gonna be every week. You can count on it.
27:23
Speaker 1: We got that one. Yeah, all right, what is it? Yeah?
27:28
Speaker 1: Like go collects hearing it now too, I was.
27:30
Speaker 2: Hearing yeah, Well again the kids are I gotta go
27:32
Speaker 2: handle this real quick. Hey, you gotta talk for a second.
27:37
Speaker 2: Now you're good at that, so it should work out.
27:38
Speaker 1: Well just fine, Yeah, this is great. I'm in I'm
27:41
Speaker 1: telling you though, well you're working on that. This is
27:44
Speaker 1: what I was hearing. I was about to just shut
27:45
Speaker 1: it all down and wonder what the hell's going on
27:47
Speaker 1: because I was hearing like faintness in the background of
27:50
Speaker 1: like kids playing. It sounded like just running around or something.
27:53
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on, but yeah, we're back,
27:55
Speaker 1: so ak range for me all hit on it because
27:58
Speaker 1: I said it beforehand anyway, But I do like these guys.
28:00
Speaker 1: I know they're going to be owned. I know Pendrith
28:02
Speaker 1: will come with some ownership, but it's just the different builds.
28:05
Speaker 1: Like I said, if you're not as high on these
28:07
Speaker 1: nine k guys, you could get three of these guys
28:09
Speaker 1: in McNeely, Pendrith, Homa you have almost eight thousand. So
28:14
Speaker 1: now you know you're going above. Let's say you pick
28:16
Speaker 1: your spot up here, just randomly, someone like me picking
28:19
Speaker 1: a song. Jay, You're at sixty nine hundred, give or
28:21
Speaker 1: take sixty eight to fifty. There's tons of ways you
28:24
Speaker 1: can play this. And this is what I was gonna
28:26
Speaker 1: talk to Hoop about. Saul repeat it when he comes
28:28
Speaker 1: back in a different way. But I guess just to
28:29
Speaker 1: show you guys quickly, the reason I like this is
28:32
Speaker 1: because what everybody does is was that when they land here,
28:35
Speaker 1: they immediately run to sixty nine hundred and go, okay,
28:38
Speaker 1: Bramlet this guy done. But this gives you different ways
28:41
Speaker 1: you can handle it, right. You can play the two
28:43
Speaker 1: sixty nine hundred dollars guys. You can play the you know,
28:47
Speaker 1: mid range six K guy of one of the guys
28:49
Speaker 1: at sixty seven or something that you like, and then
28:51
Speaker 1: be able to still get one of the seven K
28:53
Speaker 1: guys that we talked about. Or you can play one
28:57
Speaker 1: of those value plays where most are playing three of
28:59
Speaker 1: them and be able to drop down to sixty four
29:02
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. We are getting somebody there. So just little
29:06
Speaker 1: things like this that I look at when I land there.
29:07
Speaker 1: You got a scooper. What's going on over there? Now?
29:10
Speaker 2: Kids? Man, I mean just kids are just always interesting.
29:14
Speaker 2: It's like, so they're off school because it's a cold day.
29:17
Speaker 2: It's negative is negative five or something, so they're off
29:19
Speaker 2: school today and tomorrow. Trying to get them to do
29:21
Speaker 2: something all morning, go play this, do something in the house.
29:25
Speaker 2: So she thinks it's a good time to finally go
29:29
Speaker 2: downstairs and use the karaoke machine, right singing.
29:34
Speaker 1: I said it ahead, you're running around or singing or singing?
29:37
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, as soon as I start the show,
29:39
Speaker 2: she's ready to go do something in karaoke. Blasting the
29:42
Speaker 2: music in the basement is the best option right as
29:45
Speaker 2: we're starting the show. So it's still going because I just.
29:49
Speaker 1: It's definitely still going.
29:50
Speaker 2: Yes, oh man, absolutely, unreal, man, unreal.
29:55
Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead on the eight K range. I
29:58
Speaker 1: just talked my thoughts through a one to show a
29:59
Speaker 1: little bit of roster construction with it. I brought it
30:01
Speaker 1: up at the end. I'll let you go first and
30:03
Speaker 1: I'll kick back to it. But you talk about these
30:05
Speaker 1: AK guys first. Yeah.
30:06
Speaker 2: Definitely somewhat interested here, I guess more than somewhat like McNeely.
30:10
Speaker 2: I don't know I could be sold on him, but
30:12
Speaker 2: definitely Pendrith. Pendrith is a guy I want to be
30:14
Speaker 2: on more times than not. Eighty eight hundred I think
30:17
Speaker 2: is a fine price tag for him. You know, Max
30:21
Speaker 2: Holm is interesting one. I mean, another guy that had
30:23
Speaker 2: a pretty shitty season last year, eighty six hundred. He
30:28
Speaker 2: has had success at this course. A guy that I
30:32
Speaker 2: think probably plays better this year than he played last year,
30:35
Speaker 2: and he could easily be in that nine k range
30:37
Speaker 2: if he was playing at least like halfway decent. Luke
30:41
Speaker 2: Clanton eighty five hundred I think is fine. Another guy
30:43
Speaker 2: I want to be on more times than not. You know,
30:46
Speaker 2: miss the cut last time out at the Sony Open.
30:48
Speaker 2: But I think he's fine to go to here. But
30:51
Speaker 2: another name that definitely stands out, a guy that's been
30:53
Speaker 2: playing very very well and is pretty well is the
30:57
Speaker 2: cheapest in this range is a Bosler eight K flat.
31:01
Speaker 2: I think it's a course where he can definitely find success.
31:05
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in him. So like Pendrith, Homa Clanton, Hostler,
31:11
Speaker 2: I think totally fine guys to go to. And then
31:13
Speaker 2: you know, the question is, you know a lot of
31:16
Speaker 2: times in this range, can you start here? Can you
31:18
Speaker 2: go balance stand this week? I don't necessarily hate it.
31:22
Speaker 2: I think there is win equity in the eight k range,
31:25
Speaker 2: Like we don't have the all the heavy hitters up top,
31:29
Speaker 2: So like you know, if you go Hostler Just before
31:33
Speaker 2: I mentioned Hostler, Homa, Clanton, Pendrith eight k for two
31:37
Speaker 2: more spots, So I think this is a week where
31:40
Speaker 2: I'm okay going to the balance route.
31:43
Speaker 1: Kenny, all right, I'm here, show can start now. We
31:46
Speaker 1: don't know what we want Kenny's takes. He was trying
31:48
Speaker 1: to set me up today on Luke List, Lanto Griffin
31:51
Speaker 1: and somebody else. I forget who it was. So we'll see.
31:54
Speaker 1: We'll see Dumpy Bow for sure. Definitely an interesting one
31:57
Speaker 1: here at a K flat and Hall both w D
32:01
Speaker 1: so you probably see that on your app. But if
32:03
Speaker 1: you didn't know, that's two guys eighty two and eight
32:05
Speaker 1: thousand that are both out. Ben Griffin's slight price bump
32:08
Speaker 1: two gloves is always interesting too because he's a guy
32:10
Speaker 1: that usually we thought of as a safety sort of
32:13
Speaker 1: safety net type play, but late in the season last
32:16
Speaker 1: year he was playing pretty good golf and showing a
32:18
Speaker 1: little bit more ceiling and if he was able to
32:20
Speaker 1: make it through to the weekend, we were seeing more
32:23
Speaker 1: there from him as well. So I think he's someone
32:25
Speaker 1: to look at there also. But this build hoop I
32:27
Speaker 1: was just showing off earlier, like if you land something
32:30
Speaker 1: like you know, a sung jay with three eight k's
32:33
Speaker 1: and it can be anybody because this is what number
32:35
Speaker 1: can go up and down. Then it gives you flexibility
32:36
Speaker 1: wherever you want to move around. If it's you know,
32:39
Speaker 1: let's go back up here for a second. Two the
32:40
Speaker 1: guy you thought was the guy Oberg, you're down to
32:44
Speaker 1: sixty four to fifty again. Most people just plug into
32:47
Speaker 1: sixty four's You can change it around some maybe instead
32:50
Speaker 1: of the pendrith chalk. You go to your guy dumpy
32:53
Speaker 1: Bo who you mentioned there. Shout out to our guy
32:56
Speaker 1: DJ and he'll be on tonight. Bo Hostler gets you
32:59
Speaker 1: to sixty eight fifty again. This is a prime example
33:01
Speaker 1: of everything I just had. That's a two v two
33:02
Speaker 1: off it. A lot of people I was saying, go
33:04
Speaker 1: to two sixty nine hundred dollars. Guys you can't but
33:07
Speaker 1: like sixty eight and sixty nine, and they round it
33:09
Speaker 1: out because they assume, oh, I see this much left,
33:11
Speaker 1: I gotta just go spend exact. I was saying, you
33:14
Speaker 1: could get to like one of the value plays and
33:16
Speaker 1: a super low guy, or you could get to someone
33:19
Speaker 1: a little lower than this and get to a low
33:20
Speaker 1: seven instead, but you still end up with a way
33:22
Speaker 1: different roster construction based off what most are doing. So
33:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you have anything else to add
33:27
Speaker 1: when it comes there, if we got to talk about
33:29
Speaker 1: the seven K range, there's forty three golfers in here,
33:32
Speaker 1: I believe.
33:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again it's a range where I think it's
33:37
Speaker 2: kind of similar to man that karaoke machine might not
33:41
Speaker 2: make it or through the show that thing is on
33:45
Speaker 2: the verge of getting absolutely snapped in half. Yeah, disaster.
33:50
Speaker 2: I think it's somewhat similar where you know, the names
33:53
Speaker 2: look appealing up top and then they might fall off
33:56
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I think there's plays all throughout
33:59
Speaker 2: this range. At the top. You know, Mark Hubbard seventy
34:04
Speaker 2: eight hundred, he's just perfect for events like this has
34:08
Speaker 2: been solid. I mean, this is the time to play
34:11
Speaker 2: Mark Ubbard. He's got a twenty first and the twelfth
34:13
Speaker 2: seventy eight hundred. You guys know, I like playing him,
34:16
Speaker 2: and honestly, the results are usually pretty damn good with him,
34:19
Speaker 2: Like when it gets to more difficult field if he
34:23
Speaker 2: makes it into any of the signature events or something
34:26
Speaker 2: like that, that's when you don't play Hubbard. Right now
34:28
Speaker 2: is when you do play Hubbard and the results continue
34:31
Speaker 2: to be pretty solid. I think Daniel Berger is an
34:34
Speaker 2: interesting name you know, similar to will z al Torres,
34:38
Speaker 2: Like he has to have a better year than he
34:41
Speaker 2: had last year, coming off a twenty first bad round
34:45
Speaker 2: four really last week. I'm kind of good with him.
34:48
Speaker 2: At seventy six hundred. This Mallard is how you pronounce it,
34:53
Speaker 2: Malard sar Mueller seventy six hundred had what was it
34:59
Speaker 2: a fourth place finished last week at the Dubai the
35:04
Speaker 2: Hero Dubai Desert Class or whatever something on the World Tour.
35:08
Speaker 2: He's a fine option. I think Eric Cole people always
35:11
Speaker 2: like playing Eric Cole. You know, he's gonna get some ownership.
35:14
Speaker 2: At seventy four. Vegas showed up nicely for us obviously
35:18
Speaker 2: that I think the distance off the tee could be
35:20
Speaker 2: a benefit here seventy four hundred, So in our rough draft,
35:24
Speaker 2: early projections, he's coming in as a solid play. Rico
35:29
Speaker 2: Joe seventy two hundred has not played well, you know,
35:33
Speaker 2: fifty ninth, fifty eighth, but like I do like him
35:37
Speaker 2: at seventy two, coming down a little bit more, Lee Hodges,
35:43
Speaker 2: Andrew Novak, Putnam. So, I think there are some guys
35:46
Speaker 2: down here in the low sevens that we can can consider.
35:49
Speaker 2: But it's a big range. A lot of golfers here.
35:52
Speaker 2: People are gonna want to avoid the six six k range,
35:55
Speaker 2: So have to imagine a lot of teams end somewhere
35:59
Speaker 2: in this range, you know, depending on who they like.
36:01
Speaker 2: But you know, those are just a few of my favorites.
36:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, d tre Spawn Yeager. These guys like eckro maybe
36:07
Speaker 1: I don't know if he even gets there, but they're
36:09
Speaker 1: all gonna get some ownership. I don't want to hear
36:12
Speaker 1: my guy Djen call Steven Yagger donkey chock tonight. This
36:15
Speaker 1: is a disrespectful price. He took down Scotti Scheffler last year.
36:19
Speaker 1: Like this guy is obviously good, so keep that in mind.
36:22
Speaker 1: At seventy eight hundred and called Johnny Vegas donkey chock.
36:26
Speaker 1: He's fine to call that. I like him this week,
36:28
Speaker 1: but at least call him donkey chock. Let Steven Yagger
36:31
Speaker 1: be left alone because Vegas is, you know, seventy four hundred,
36:34
Speaker 1: smally seventy three hundred. I see these guys getting some
36:38
Speaker 1: love Lee Hodges. But because there's so many guys down
36:41
Speaker 1: here who you can kind of play whoever you want. Kevin,
36:43
Speaker 1: you is seventy one hundred, doesn't look like anyone's really
36:45
Speaker 1: playing him. Sam Stevens seventy three hundred, another guy like that,
36:50
Speaker 1: it's in that same range. Taylor Moore another guy like
36:53
Speaker 1: in that range. So I don't know, It's all different
36:56
Speaker 1: options you can go to. But I think one thing
36:58
Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about a bunch off the top,
37:00
Speaker 1: but with the longer course and then playing it more
37:03
Speaker 1: over the weekend for those that do make the cut
37:05
Speaker 1: with the South course, it's you know, I think it
37:08
Speaker 1: was so last year Matt Chew Pavn who's also here
37:10
Speaker 1: at seventy two hundred, and I know the course fit
37:12
Speaker 1: rankings like quite a bit. He is a guy that
37:15
Speaker 1: kind of snaked. He kind of sneaked through right all
37:18
Speaker 1: the other guys around. Everyone's like, oh see, you don't
37:19
Speaker 1: need to be a bomber to win here. That's true,
37:22
Speaker 1: you didn't need to be one last year. But there
37:24
Speaker 1: was like I think Mayo and I looked at it
37:26
Speaker 1: yesterday and it was like nine of the other twelve
37:29
Speaker 1: in the top twelve and like and seven of those
37:31
Speaker 1: were in the top eight. It was like, they're all bombers.
37:33
Speaker 1: They're all bombers at this course. So kind of don't
37:36
Speaker 1: want to put too many non bombers probably into your
37:39
Speaker 1: lineups here, just thinking about playing out the whole week
37:41
Speaker 1: and how this course goes if you're looking at it.
37:42
Speaker 1: So if you are getting a Eric Cole or something
37:45
Speaker 1: like that that you're you know, you're taking a shot on,
37:47
Speaker 1: know what you're doing with the rest of your roster
37:49
Speaker 1: based around that. But definitely think the upper sevens gets
37:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of love here with d Tree, Spawn Hubbard, Yagger,
37:56
Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah he's fine too, I think.
38:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him. Yeah, I meant to mention him,
38:02
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely in on him.
38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ca Havan showed up on these Big boy he
38:08
Speaker 1: did show up. We'll see if he shows and up
38:11
Speaker 1: and he you know, this weekend. But in general, that's
38:13
Speaker 1: something you have to keep in mind, as well as
38:14
Speaker 1: how often it happens. But a lot of the plays
38:16
Speaker 1: that people usually like seem to be going a little
38:19
Speaker 1: bit overlooked, like Patrick Rogers, Matt Wallace, who else did
38:23
Speaker 1: I see Harris English? Some of these guys that people
38:25
Speaker 1: will usually be interested in, doesn't seem like they're getting
38:27
Speaker 1: as much of the projection ownership, if you will, where
38:30
Speaker 1: people are like, okay, I can you know I'm gonna
38:32
Speaker 1: play these guys because they project well. It feels like
38:34
Speaker 1: everyone's landing on the same guys in that seventy three,
38:37
Speaker 1: seventy four, the seventy eight, seventy nine, and then going
38:41
Speaker 1: up to the guys who already talked about all the
38:43
Speaker 1: top at the top. So apply that to your roster
38:45
Speaker 1: construction when you're building out. But I think even at
38:48
Speaker 1: the bottom or sorry, the upper six K range, just
38:50
Speaker 1: below the low seven hoop, is where you can find
38:53
Speaker 1: some guys because even though they should be popular like
38:55
Speaker 1: Bramlet sixty nine hundred, a lot of it makes a
38:58
Speaker 1: lot of sense here. But you know, is he really
39:01
Speaker 1: going to get to that number with ownership or does
39:03
Speaker 1: it actually get held in check just because most lineups
39:05
Speaker 1: don't put a six K guy at all?
39:08
Speaker 2: What are we showing for the ownership. I don't think
39:10
Speaker 2: it's a high. I think a lot of people are
39:12
Speaker 2: gonna try to avoid the six K range. I think
39:16
Speaker 2: it's probably closer to five than ten. We'll see, But yes,
39:20
Speaker 2: the reason people like him, he's had success here, so
39:23
Speaker 2: definitely fine with him. Hope the number is lower than
39:26
Speaker 2: we're showing. Adam shank I always kind of kind of
39:29
Speaker 2: like a little bit Luke List. I think is somewhat
39:32
Speaker 2: interesting from the perspective that the course fits them well.
39:34
Speaker 2: He's had success here. The drawback is he's playing like
39:37
Speaker 2: absolute ass, like just playing terrible. You know, he had
39:42
Speaker 2: some success early on last season, there was some momentum,
39:45
Speaker 2: Like right now he has nothing going. Can he just
39:48
Speaker 2: turn it on and find some some form here? I
39:51
Speaker 2: think it's possible. Sixty eight hundred, Like, I don't know, Like,
39:54
Speaker 2: I definitely think it's worth taking taking some shots on him.
39:59
Speaker 2: And we're showing five percent again probably I think it's
40:02
Speaker 2: probably lower than that, So I'd be fine taking a
40:04
Speaker 2: shot on a guy like him. You want distance off
40:07
Speaker 2: the tee? Or are we sleeping on mister Nap this week?
40:11
Speaker 2: Sixty seven hundred another guy just playing like absolute shit,
40:15
Speaker 2: but can bomb it off the tee? I don't know. Maybe,
40:20
Speaker 2: I guess is my answer. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
40:22
Speaker 1: If I'll think you're right he played it last year
40:25
Speaker 1: and did well.
40:26
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so. So what about doesn't this toasty
40:30
Speaker 2: guy hit it far off the tee?
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeahs in the mix here?
40:33
Speaker 2: Sixty four Yeah, I definitely take a chance on that.
40:36
Speaker 2: Especially in large field stuff sixty four hundred for him
40:41
Speaker 2: your dad's boy, Kevin Tway sixty four hundred, Like I
40:44
Speaker 2: don't necessarily hate it. Again, well, how often you come
40:48
Speaker 2: down here depends what you're trying to do roster construction wise,
40:52
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do up top, Like, you don't
40:53
Speaker 2: have to come down here at all. Those are four
40:56
Speaker 2: or five guys that I'm probably the most interested in,
40:59
Speaker 2: and and honestly, if doing one to fifty, i'd mix
41:02
Speaker 2: and put them in the mix, uh for sure. But
41:05
Speaker 2: you don't have to be down here all that often
41:07
Speaker 2: if you don't want to.
41:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the main thing I'll point out, because again
41:10
Speaker 1: there's ninety guys down here. It's just insanity. But just
41:13
Speaker 1: to point this out, like this is as simple as
41:15
Speaker 1: it gets. What do you really think about Alex Smalley
41:19
Speaker 1: and Johnny Vegas versus like Jake Knapp and Maddie Schmid. Again,
41:23
Speaker 1: maybe you have crazy polarizing thoughts and I'm just nuts,
41:26
Speaker 1: but I really don't care because it's DFS and it's
41:29
Speaker 1: pgadfs and it just gets you different. These guys are
41:32
Speaker 1: basically the same. Dude. I pick up all the money
41:35
Speaker 1: from those guys that I'm talking and comparing against, and
41:38
Speaker 1: you can play them both, you can mix them all.
41:39
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you an example. I now have ninety
41:42
Speaker 1: one fifty left. Like nobody's rarely anybody is playing one
41:46
Speaker 1: six K guy, let alone two. But it's actually not
41:49
Speaker 1: that different playing two sixty seven hundred dollars guys, and
41:52
Speaker 1: pick your dudes, not mine. Pick your own dudes and say, Okay,
41:56
Speaker 1: these are the ones I think Tambo's an idiot. I
41:58
Speaker 1: hate those guys he mentioned, But you gonna name two
42:00
Speaker 1: other dudes that other people would say suck too. So
42:03
Speaker 1: it's pick your own guys. But the main point being
42:05
Speaker 1: when you go down here, if your guys are Sam
42:08
Speaker 1: Ryder and Luke List, well you just lost two hundred
42:11
Speaker 1: bucks but you still have ninety one hundred remaining, and
42:14
Speaker 1: you can skip that seven K range altogether and go
42:18
Speaker 1: right back to the top and get similar builds to people. Right,
42:21
Speaker 1: Ludwig zal Oh, Now, now I'm in the eight K
42:24
Speaker 1: range in a high seven versus those mid to low
42:28
Speaker 1: seven K range that everyone's just calling all these dudes
42:30
Speaker 1: the guy. Right, you can just avoid that all together
42:33
Speaker 1: and have load of no ownership on most of your
42:35
Speaker 1: lineup and then give it up from there. So main
42:38
Speaker 1: thing is roster construction at an event like this, apply
42:42
Speaker 1: the other thoughts that you want to talk about. You know,
42:44
Speaker 1: we talked about bombers and the narrative there. We talked
42:47
Speaker 1: about North South Course. I don't know who do you
42:49
Speaker 1: have a take on this? Because I mentioned it with
42:51
Speaker 1: Mayo yesterday. I know a lot of people were talking
42:52
Speaker 1: about in the discord. But if you're a professional golfer
42:57
Speaker 1: and again they play through anything, so who cares? But
42:59
Speaker 1: just work with me on this one.
43:01
Speaker 2: Yeah?
43:01
Speaker 1: Would you and the chat can answer this too. Would
43:03
Speaker 1: you rather play the North course first, go scorch out
43:07
Speaker 1: a six under and then have to play the South
43:10
Speaker 1: course on cut day knowing that there's a number that
43:14
Speaker 1: like keep you make one mistake, you're closer to that
43:16
Speaker 1: bad number.
43:17
Speaker 2: Yeah?
43:17
Speaker 1: Would you rather grind out the South course, play good
43:20
Speaker 1: and then feel like no pressure because now I get
43:22
Speaker 1: to go play a much easier course today, I'll go low,
43:25
Speaker 1: I'll make the cut, and I'll figure it out over
43:27
Speaker 1: the weekend. What's yourself?
43:28
Speaker 2: So for me personally, and again it's probably different for
43:31
Speaker 2: every person, every golfer. I mean it definitely depends on
43:34
Speaker 2: your mindset. But for me personally, I'd rather play the
43:37
Speaker 2: North Course, the easier course first, go out there, make
43:40
Speaker 2: some birdies, and then go to the more difficult course
43:43
Speaker 2: and just kind of grind out pars and see if
43:46
Speaker 2: that's enough. Now, if you go to the easy course
43:48
Speaker 2: and don't perform all that well, you can go to
43:51
Speaker 2: the more difficult course and then just have a more
43:53
Speaker 2: aggressive mindset. I think you have more flexibility if you
43:57
Speaker 2: play the easy course first. That's how I would view it. Again,
44:00
Speaker 2: it's probably different for every golfer, every person, every mind
44:03
Speaker 2: So that's a good question. We should post that one
44:06
Speaker 2: to the chat, like what would you rather do? Personally?
44:08
Speaker 2: Would you would you rather play the easy course first
44:11
Speaker 2: or the more difficult course first, because again it probably
44:13
Speaker 2: differs person to person. But for me, I'll take the
44:16
Speaker 2: easy course first, and then if I do put up
44:19
Speaker 2: a nice score, if I'm you know, three four, five hundred,
44:22
Speaker 2: then just grind it out on the more difficult But
44:24
Speaker 2: then if I if I don't play it well on
44:26
Speaker 2: the easy course, I can be more aggressive on the
44:28
Speaker 2: difficult one. So that's kind of where.
44:30
Speaker 1: I'm at, and I'll wait for the weather takes tonight.
44:32
Speaker 1: Once Djen pulls out the weather, we're obviously poor as
44:35
Speaker 1: we can't afford it. He can, He's got the good
44:37
Speaker 1: stuff over there. But I am curious to see the
44:40
Speaker 1: takes on the You know how that applies with it,
44:42
Speaker 1: because right now Wednesday looks pretty solid across the board.
44:45
Speaker 1: Don't see much. Remember it's starting a day early. I
44:48
Speaker 1: guess Thursday gets a little bit spicier, but it's not much.
44:52
Speaker 1: It's like eight to twelve miles per hour versus you know,
44:55
Speaker 1: six to seven. So I don't know. But what I
44:58
Speaker 1: was gonna say is that is funny. You said that
45:00
Speaker 1: it feels like the chat is with you that they
45:02
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's split, but it seems like
45:04
Speaker 1: more people want easy than hard. My thing is I
45:07
Speaker 1: want to play the hard one, and like maybe I
45:10
Speaker 1: can get it back or maybe it's just over and
45:11
Speaker 1: pack it up anyway, because if I play really good,
45:14
Speaker 1: I know for me, the way my mindset works is
45:16
Speaker 1: like day two, even if I'm five or six under,
45:19
Speaker 1: you six under, like the example, I said one mistake
45:22
Speaker 1: and now I'm five under another mistake, Now I'm four under.
45:25
Speaker 1: Then somebody shouts at all the cut line is minus three,
45:29
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh shit, I can only make one
45:30
Speaker 1: more mistake and it can compound so much faster on
45:34
Speaker 1: the hard course versus on the other course, you're kind
45:37
Speaker 1: of missing birdie putts making power, Like if you're on
45:39
Speaker 1: the easy course seconds, I don't know, it's it's.
45:41
Speaker 2: In tough yeah. I mean, let's be clear though, for sure,
45:44
Speaker 2: this is just all about mindset, not actual golf. I
45:47
Speaker 2: would get fucking destroyed on both these courses for sure.
45:53
Speaker 1: So all it was to say is, as people know,
45:55
Speaker 1: I like to build in sets, I will build for
45:57
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. And because we don't know anything
45:59
Speaker 1: about the actual golfers mindsets besides the things we make
46:02
Speaker 1: up about them and come up with on the fly,
46:04
Speaker 1: I would be interested in playing with some you know,
46:06
Speaker 1: playing some golfers and playing with my lineups where I've
46:09
Speaker 1: got some South first then north, and some north then south,
46:14
Speaker 1: just so at least the correlation could be if what
46:16
Speaker 1: if weather does pop up, what if there is a
46:18
Speaker 1: mindset to that and it just works out that way
46:20
Speaker 1: or it just happens to go my way. I'm fine
46:23
Speaker 1: with it, but I do think I have some interest
46:25
Speaker 1: in it's splitting those up, and I've had some success
46:28
Speaker 1: with it here in the past, so I'm definitely gonna
46:30
Speaker 1: do something along those lines. And you can do it
46:31
Speaker 1: differently too. You can do like cheaper golfers. Maybe maybe
46:35
Speaker 1: it's for like worse golfers who where you know, it's
46:38
Speaker 1: easier for that. They're all they're all, by the way,
46:40
Speaker 1: the bad golfers are still good golfers in this event.
46:43
Speaker 1: It's not the hypothetical anymore. So maybe they do like
46:46
Speaker 1: to grind it out first, and then that sire relief
46:49
Speaker 1: is like, ah, now I get to go to the
46:50
Speaker 1: easy course and I can just go low because they're
46:53
Speaker 1: good enough. Right, They're definitely good enough. It's just are
46:55
Speaker 1: they good enough to avoid plus six on day one?
46:58
Speaker 1: And that's where the tricky stuff lies. Oh yeah, interesting
47:02
Speaker 1: thought on that. Anything else you have to add as
47:04
Speaker 1: far as roster construction goes, or anything else you wanted
47:06
Speaker 1: to mention here, we'll bring up Djen's notes. Maybe people
47:09
Speaker 1: can start throwing some names in the chat that you
47:11
Speaker 1: want us to look up. But remember there's two hundred
47:13
Speaker 1: names in here right now, so you may not have
47:15
Speaker 1: them all. But if there's a golfer you want us
47:17
Speaker 1: to look up the notes on for this week, Throw
47:19
Speaker 1: them in the chat and we'll pull up the notes.
47:21
Speaker 1: Go ahead, who anything else you want to add?
47:22
Speaker 2: I just see Rory's face and my buddy had sent
47:25
Speaker 2: me that Instagram post. It is like the sports betting
47:28
Speaker 2: tip or explanation. If you bet a one hundred dollars
47:32
Speaker 2: on Rory at the masters end, he's eight to one
47:36
Speaker 2: to win, you lose one hundred dollars. I thought it
47:39
Speaker 2: was hilarious. Obviously the picture to go along with it
47:42
Speaker 2: is great, and it's so true. Fuck Rory sucks. But
47:44
Speaker 2: who got in there? Lotry?
47:46
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull them up in a second. But you
47:47
Speaker 1: know what's funny when you posted that, because you usually
47:49
Speaker 1: don't like post the funny stuff in there. You just
47:51
Speaker 1: you answer the questions. You get serious, like what's he
47:53
Speaker 1: posting here? I thought it was going to be another
47:55
Speaker 1: rant piece because it was like the other one that
47:58
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you earlier about. You're back
48:00
Speaker 1: to nowther at the end. We can do it anyway.
48:01
Speaker 1: But you know, people like Victory lap that they nailed
48:05
Speaker 1: a one twenty five to one pick, which is hard
48:08
Speaker 1: to do when you call it and they're in your thing,
48:11
Speaker 1: but I find it gets victory lapped, like they won
48:14
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five to one. But it's like
48:17
Speaker 1: the card is good betting strategy of like making a
48:20
Speaker 1: card that pays out seven to one. I'm fine with
48:22
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I've done it myself, I'm saying, but
48:25
Speaker 1: then you don't you want a seven to one return,
48:28
Speaker 1: Like it's that you didn't hit you hit a one
48:30
Speaker 1: twenty five to one pick, but you won seven to
48:33
Speaker 1: you wont seven to one. It's not shaming it, it's
48:35
Speaker 1: just saying there's a difference in how it gets sort
48:37
Speaker 1: of looked at, marketed and celebrated. That would be where
48:40
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna throw that in on it.
48:42
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, stuff's crazy, man, it is. I don't want
48:46
Speaker 2: to get derailed again. I mean we you know, I
48:48
Speaker 2: had my two to three minute rant, and I'm sure
48:50
Speaker 2: i'll have another one. Oh I know I'll have another
48:51
Speaker 2: one next week, so it won't really matter. It's it's coming.
48:54
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like clockwork. It's just as soon as
48:57
Speaker 2: you see the PGA Tours over, you see the winner.
49:00
Speaker 2: Just wait, it's coming. They all had it and it's
49:02
Speaker 2: just it's just so annoying on so many different levels.
49:05
Speaker 2: And that's another one that you just touched on. For sure.
49:08
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up Hubbard Hostler, you guys keep him coming.
49:11
Speaker 1: But I want to just note this quick. What it uh? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Gary Woodland up, I'll put those three for now. So
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Speaker 1: fat bastard is the nickname on Shane Lowry better on
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Speaker 1: difficult Course.
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Speaker 2: I've never heard that one.
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Speaker 1: These are good nicknames too, so we'll get to it
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Speaker 1: in a second. But it is funny. Putter will frustrate
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Speaker 1: you fine, but sometimes it gets hot too. That's why
49:31
Speaker 1: it will frustrate you, because it's polarizing. I remember the
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Speaker 1: Canadian Open that year. It just got lights out, you know,
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Speaker 1: super hot, excels at tea Green consistently under own. I
49:39
Speaker 1: think these are all gonna line up this week. Difficult course,
49:42
Speaker 1: Tea Green can come into play consistently under owned. It
49:45
Speaker 1: could frustrate us if the putter, I will look real quick,
49:48
Speaker 1: Shane Lowry goes, he goes south north, so imagine he
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Speaker 1: crushes the South, comes out strong, and then the putter
49:55
Speaker 1: frustrates you on the north hard courses.
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Speaker 3: I mean he's playing the hard one first and maybe
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Speaker 3: he puts up in decent number on the.
50:00
Speaker 1: Hard Look at this one too, better on difficult courses.
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Speaker 1: Excels on hard courses. You can just add another one
50:09
Speaker 1: in there. You just you say the same thing in
50:10
Speaker 1: different ways. We get new nose.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he is the type of guy. I wouldn't
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Speaker 2: be surprising if he scores better on the difficult course
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Speaker 2: versus the easy course, Like you would not be shocked,
50:18
Speaker 2: Like if he does it this.
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Speaker 1: Week it struggles putting here, okay, low T ten needs
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Speaker 1: help tying shoes. We had it at the end. Love
50:26
Speaker 1: these good ones that we get in there because everyone's like, oh,
50:29
Speaker 1: it's just you know, funny, no noes. There's a lot
50:30
Speaker 1: of good stuff in these. And then you get some jokes.
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Speaker 2: I got the he's got the sketcher slip ons.
50:37
Speaker 1: I got old Gary Gary Woodland. Here we'll go to
50:39
Speaker 1: Hubbard next. I missed him. Struggles in majors in par
50:42
Speaker 1: seventy two's a lead off the tee preferable at short
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Speaker 1: technical courses. Terrible Putter had brain surgery in twenty twenty three,
50:50
Speaker 1: may may be still recovering, so got to keep that
50:52
Speaker 1: in mind as well. So come Hubbard. Excels on short courses,
50:58
Speaker 1: struggles in strong fields and par seventies prefer on easy courses.
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Speaker 1: Approach has been declining. Used to be elite putter. Well,
51:07
Speaker 1: I guess the only takeaway here is it is twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, so you may hope that this returns in
51:13
Speaker 1: twenty twenty teens.
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Speaker 3: With him, you just don't play him in the super
51:15
Speaker 3: strong fielding. He'll sneak into a few throughout the year
51:18
Speaker 3: where he gets into the stronger fields and you just
51:20
Speaker 3: don't play them there.
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Speaker 2: You play them when it's a weak field.
51:23
Speaker 1: This event would have been much stronger, like morikaw A,
51:25
Speaker 1: Xander Harry, like all these guys that could have been
51:28
Speaker 1: at this event. It's just Scheffler, all of them. Just
51:31
Speaker 1: dumpy Bow. This was brought up again yesterday, coined by DJN.
51:34
Speaker 1: So we got dumpy bo Hostler, below average scorer at
51:38
Speaker 1: hard scoring courses. So knock gonna where's he start at?
51:40
Speaker 1: Let's go check check and he starts on the north.
51:44
Speaker 1: So good news is you'll feel pretty good about Bow
51:46
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that can give it all back
51:47
Speaker 1: on too.
51:48
Speaker 2: Struggles.
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Speaker 3: In a conversation we had with him was this last
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Speaker 3: week where like he looks like a frat boy. Like
51:53
Speaker 3: it's like, but he's one of those fake tough guys
51:56
Speaker 3: that might talk ship, but then he's like standing behind
51:58
Speaker 3: all the tough dudes still talking shit. It you want
52:00
Speaker 3: to punch this dude in the face, but you can't
52:02
Speaker 3: get to him because all the tough guys are in
52:03
Speaker 3: front of him.
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Speaker 2: Or I don't know how the conversation with.
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Speaker 1: Mad McNeely, and you said, but at least MAV has
52:08
Speaker 1: the money with his dad.
52:09
Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Good on resort courses, avoid when high prices, below average
52:16
Speaker 1: price this week at least streaky week to week. Not elite,
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Speaker 1: although some think he is. And then do we have
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Speaker 1: any of these other guys? Do we have Carson Young?
52:24
Speaker 1: Let's see we do. Carson Young struggles on hard courses,
52:28
Speaker 1: recovers well on miss Fairways, better on island and past
52:31
Speaker 1: Paulham better, struggles on Ermuta, potentially rising car, even possibly
52:36
Speaker 1: rising star. You get it, he's a rising car. He
52:41
Speaker 1: did there better in easy fields, so doesn't seem great.
52:44
Speaker 1: And also I like him better when he's in fields
52:46
Speaker 1: with Cam Young because then he gets excited to be
52:48
Speaker 1: the best. See Young and someone else, I don't know
52:51
Speaker 1: if we'll have got her up will be Wow. These
52:53
Speaker 1: are these notes are good. Man scores well in easy conditions,
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Speaker 1: at his best with average greens, struggle with small greens,
53:01
Speaker 1: mashes it off the tee. Great play at Birdie Fest.
53:05
Speaker 1: He is sixty five hundred this week. I definitely like
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Speaker 1: me some godter up. I'm taking a shot there. The
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Speaker 1: stone doesn't hate him, and he's a south north guy,
53:13
Speaker 1: so he could start, you know, just grind out that
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Speaker 1: south and then just let him mash away and go
53:17
Speaker 1: low on the north. That would be the way to
53:19
Speaker 1: get it done for me. The chat really wants Rose.
53:22
Speaker 1: Let's get a little justin Rose action in here. See
53:25
Speaker 1: what we got with him. Excels on short courses, great
53:29
Speaker 1: in round three scoring. So if he makes the weekend,
53:31
Speaker 1: let's see. That's another thing to look at too that
53:33
Speaker 1: I always kind of like, is okay Rose, who is
53:37
Speaker 1: seventy six. He plays north south. So one thing about
53:42
Speaker 1: these types of little tidbits and things I look at.
53:44
Speaker 1: It doesn't always work, but it's a way to keep
53:45
Speaker 1: it in mind. But let's say he plays good in
53:48
Speaker 1: round two on the stadium, Well, he's going right back
53:51
Speaker 1: if he makes the cut and ends up getting through.
53:52
Speaker 1: He's playing round three and four on stadium course, so
53:55
Speaker 1: he's right back through or start not stadium south this week.
53:58
Speaker 1: I was thinking last week with Lakina, but anyway, stadium
54:02
Speaker 1: he plays on round two, so he goes right back
54:05
Speaker 1: out into it on round three and can correct his mistakes,
54:08
Speaker 1: get better at whatever he missed on things like that.
54:10
Speaker 1: So keep in mind this and I'll show you a
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Speaker 1: little extra in a minute. But struggles in Bermuda game,
54:15
Speaker 1: maybe slipping an old age occasionally can put it together
54:17
Speaker 1: in showdown. So maybe that occasion can be round three
54:20
Speaker 1: if he makes the cut this week. But this is
54:23
Speaker 1: another thing. You could just type in round three and
54:28
Speaker 1: you'll see it's somewhere in their notes. So if you're
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Speaker 1: playing round three Showdown and you don't have djn's notes, again,
54:35
Speaker 1: it's anohing. Not only do you get the stone for
54:38
Speaker 1: showdown that has all that stuff I talked about the
54:40
Speaker 1: tea time, the course, they're on all that stuff that
54:42
Speaker 1: you're looking for. So for round two and you want
54:44
Speaker 1: to know who's on North, that'll sum it up for you.
54:47
Speaker 1: But then you can come in here and also type
54:49
Speaker 1: in round two and see all the golfers that have
54:51
Speaker 1: a round two note and then find out what it is. Oh,
54:54
Speaker 1: Sung j in round two, let's go have a look
54:57
Speaker 1: week in majors and in round two, well, let's say
55:00
Speaker 1: he's you know, let's go back. Let me just put
55:02
Speaker 1: some previous thoughts together. Sung Jay plays south and then north,
55:06
Speaker 1: So let's say he grinds out south and is doing
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Speaker 1: pretty good. He's going to be super popular in round two.
55:12
Speaker 1: And I know he's on the north and you can
55:13
Speaker 1: still get away with him. But I'm saying if you
55:14
Speaker 1: were looking for a pivot option, you can look at
55:17
Speaker 1: things like this and see, well, he hasn't been so
55:19
Speaker 1: good in round two's long term and you know it's fine.
55:22
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be on today, so I'll take the
55:24
Speaker 1: shot and just fade the ownership. But yeah, lots of
55:26
Speaker 1: different things you can do with these. I think that's
55:28
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Speaker 1: it in under an hour? Or anything else? Any final
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55:46
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55:48
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55:51
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