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- 0:01Speaker 1: From the birthplace of radio's greatest era, now from New York,
- 0:06Speaker 1: it's Radio Night Live with Kevin McCullough. Unlike anything else
- 0:14Speaker 1: on radio today, it's a front row seat for great
- 0:17Speaker 1: information with today's leading experts. Travel with a third generation
- 0:21Speaker 1: travel icon, Linda Perillo. The Fox News Medical All-Stars featuring Dr.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Mark Siegel, Dr. Marty McCary, Dr. Jeanette Nishwat, and the OG, Dr.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Nicole Sapphire. Legal analysis from former prosecutor and court journalism
- 0:35Speaker 1: superstar Imran Ansari and Christine Nicholas. The quintessential heartbeat to
- 0:40Speaker 1: New York hospitality. All joining legendary broadcast pro Kevin McCullough
- 0:45Speaker 1: on a mission unlike any other. United to bring back
- 0:49Speaker 1: New York. Now, live from Studio 111, here's Kevin McCullough.
- 0:56Speaker 2: All right, welcome in. It's Radio Night Live for a Tuesday.
- 1:00Speaker 2: And it's Linda Perillo and Kevin McCullough. And Linda, ask
- 1:05Speaker 2: me why I'm smiling so big tonight. Go ahead, ask me.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Ask me why I'm smiling so big.
- 1:10Speaker 3: I'll ask you why you're smiling. Isn't that a song?
- 1:13Speaker 3: Ask me why I'm smiling.
- 1:14Speaker 2: It probably was in the Great American Songbook or something
- 1:17Speaker 2: back in the day. No, I'm smiling because the incredible
- 1:20Speaker 2: management at Salem Media Group has extended my national syndicated show.
- 1:26Speaker 2: And we're going to keep on going. You're going to
- 1:27Speaker 2: be stuck with me around these parts for a little
- 1:29Speaker 2: bit longer. So thank you to Phil and Laura and
- 1:33Speaker 2: everybody else. I guess I survived my one-year trial, and
- 1:36Speaker 2: they wanted to renew the subscription.
- 1:38Speaker 3: So Amy's had how many years of a semi-free trial?
- 1:44Speaker 2: I'm glad they didn't bring her in on the discussion.
- 1:46Speaker 2: She might have talked him out of the deal. No,
- 1:49Speaker 2: after about 10 months, man, you don't want to do
- 1:51Speaker 2: anything with him anymore. No, we're good. It's all good.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Very happy.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 1:56Speaker 2: But that brings us to something that you're not so
- 2:00Speaker 2: happy about, which is the fact that you're watching baseball
- 2:02Speaker 2: that doesn't include the Yankees. And I will give you this.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I think you're an incredible human being for being one
- 2:09Speaker 2: of the four people to watch the World Series right now.
- 2:11Speaker 2: This is literally going to be the lowest rated, most
- 2:15Speaker 2: forgettable World Series. There will be books written about how
- 2:19Speaker 2: forgettable this World Series is in the annals of baseball
- 2:22Speaker 2: history because they'll go, Wait, Tampa and Milwaukee, they have
- 2:26Speaker 2: like 10 people each that live in their TV markets. Like,
- 2:29Speaker 2: you know, like they could fit in one spot. You
- 2:32Speaker 2: could put both of those cities in one small, tiny
- 2:34Speaker 2: corner of Staten Island and you'd never even know they
- 2:38Speaker 2: were there. Like, that's how small and insignificant these cities are.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Well, Kevin, hang on a second now, please.
- 2:46Speaker 2: I know, I'm on a roll, aren't I?
- 2:48Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 2:49Speaker 3: So, listen, if you want to talk in baseball, remember
- 2:53Speaker 3: that song?
- 2:53Speaker 2: Nope. But I'm not the baseball lover you are.
- 2:57Speaker 3: What about Centerfield? Don't you know Centerfield? Put me in, coach.
- 3:02Speaker 2: No, I remember. I'm ready to play.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Oh, my God. John Foley.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I remember.
- 3:06Speaker 3: Hurry, Curry.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Standing up to sing in the seventh inning stretch. A
- 3:13Speaker 2: one and a two. Who's that? The Chicago Cubs.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Huh?
- 3:18Speaker 2: Oh, Harry Carey was always drunk. Are you kidding? That's
- 3:20Speaker 2: why Will Ferrell played him that way.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Oh, my God. So funny. Funny.
- 3:25Speaker 2: But listen, it's only Tuesday. Give me the rest of
- 3:29Speaker 2: the week. We'll get there.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Baseball reminds me of summer so as long as i
- 3:34Speaker 3: can hang on to something.
- 3:37Speaker 2: See you and i are part ways on this one
- 3:39Speaker 2: babe like this i first of all i hate this
- 3:42Speaker 2: week because halloween and i don't like halloween my kids
- 3:45Speaker 2: love it they absolutely like oh trick or treat with
- 3:47Speaker 2: you and we don't do the witches and goblins and
- 3:50Speaker 2: ghost things we just do like you know like jonathan's
- 3:53Speaker 2: gonna be i think he's gonna be uh Anakin Skywalker.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And I don't know if James is going to do anything.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And I think Charlotte's going to be like a Disney
- 4:00Speaker 2: character of some sort. And they'll go out with their friends.
- 4:03Speaker 2: They'll do, you know, they'll get a nice bag of goods.
- 4:05Speaker 2: They know, they know where the good stuff is. Um,
- 4:09Speaker 2: They just want.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Candy, Kevin.
- 4:10Speaker 2: That's all it is.
- 4:11Speaker 3: They're just looking.
- 4:12Speaker 2: For free candy. But like, I just don't like anything.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Stop it.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I don't like the movies associated with Halloween. I don't
- 4:18Speaker 2: like the music. I don't like the goblins and ghouls
- 4:21Speaker 2: and demons and witches. And I don't like I don't
- 4:24Speaker 2: like the adult stuff. Like, do I need to see
- 4:27Speaker 2: a bunch? Well, I'm going to sound like Shane Gillis
- 4:29Speaker 2: here for a second. Do I need to see a
- 4:31Speaker 2: bunch of people look like streetwalkers going to parties up
- 4:33Speaker 2: and down on Halloween night? I just, I don't think it's,
- 4:36Speaker 2: I don't need that. It's just not my, I, I'm allowed.
- 4:40Speaker 2: I drive a Dodge Stratus. I'm allowed to have my favorite,
- 4:45Speaker 2: my favorite holiday. Halloween is not it. Thanksgiving is good.
- 4:50Speaker 2: I love Christmas, but, and then three days after Halloween
- 4:54Speaker 2: is election day. So it's like these two days within
- 4:57Speaker 2: four days of each other. It's my ugliest week of
- 4:59Speaker 2: the year. I just don't like this week.
- 5:02Speaker 3: So I could feel it coming on, Kevin. I think
- 5:04Speaker 3: we got more to talk about this week than travel.
- 5:07Speaker 3: So thank God, whatever stuff I sent you may be.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Well, we've got some interesting things in the travel sector
- 5:12Speaker 2: to talk about.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Too, but I have to touch. I have to touch
- 5:15Speaker 3: on Halloween and tell you something because my kid's, go
- 5:19Speaker 3: to Catholic school. Um, and so many, many years ago
- 5:22Speaker 3: when I was living in Bergen County, the principal of
- 5:25Speaker 3: our school said, uh, guess what? Pagan holiday. We're Christian.
- 5:32Speaker 3: We do not celebrate.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Did they have like harvest festival instead where you were
- 5:36Speaker 2: allowed to go as Bible characters?
- 5:39Speaker 3: What she did. Wow.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Shepherds and Roman soldiers and stuff.
- 5:44Speaker 3: I'm Delilah. I just want to let you know, I
- 5:46Speaker 3: am Delilah.
- 5:49Speaker 2: You sent Samson to his death?
- 5:51Speaker 3: Oh, I would love to send Samson to his death, yo.
- 5:57Speaker 3: But anyway, wait, let's go back to what we were
- 5:59Speaker 3: talking about, because you and I go off on tangents
- 6:02Speaker 3: very easily. Do we?
- 6:02Speaker 2: I've never noticed. No.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Yes, we're now talking about Samson and Delilah and pagan Halloween.
- 6:09Speaker 3: This is a travel show. And we started out with baseball.
- 6:13Speaker 2: We did.
- 6:14Speaker 3: OK, Kevin. Well, you know, what do they say? Six
- 6:17Speaker 3: degrees of separation.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Even this is our crazy start for the night. But
- 6:20Speaker 2: go ahead.
- 6:21Speaker 3: But so anyway, long story short, she allowed the pre-Kers
- 6:26Speaker 3: to come in in their gear and But then she
- 6:31Speaker 3: cut off the Halloween parade. She cut off all that stuff. Now,
- 6:34Speaker 3: the interesting part is that in Mexico, it is a
- 6:37Speaker 3: big holiday, Dia de los Muertos, right? Halloween, I mean,
- 6:42Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, at this point, do I care?
- 6:44Speaker 3: The kids love it. It's an American holiday. Nobody else
- 6:46Speaker 3: celebrates Halloween. I buy a lot of things for my granddaughter.
- 6:49Speaker 3: A lot of clothes, too. I have had actually good
- 6:51Speaker 3: hits on clothes. But a lot of things for my
- 6:53Speaker 3: toddler granddaughter and my daughter, Britton, would be like, Mom, Mom!
- 6:58Speaker 3: A I I'm like, I know Bryn, but, but, but
- 7:02Speaker 3: the broom, the witch's broom that looked like it was
- 7:04Speaker 3: gliding across the floor. She's like, mom, it's not gliding.
- 7:08Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, I'm like, I'm no, I'm sorry.
- 7:11Speaker 3: But point is I get deliveries every day for everything.
- 7:15Speaker 3: I left candy out there in a ghost for my
- 7:18Speaker 3: delivery peeps because it's nice to get candy.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Rot your teeth. You're not going to convince me that
- 7:26Speaker 2: Halloween is a good holiday. It's just not going to happen.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Boo humbug.
- 7:30Speaker 2: That's you.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Boo humbug. But the kids love it. And where you
- 7:33Speaker 3: live in Bergen County, I mean, that's a mecca for Halloween.
- 7:37Speaker 3: I mean, those big streets and... And Lord, and even
- 7:40Speaker 3: the town. Come on, tell me the town.
- 7:41Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell anybody. I don't talk about
- 7:43Speaker 2: where I live on the air.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Well, I said Bergen County. But the town, even where
- 7:47Speaker 3: I live here.
- 7:47Speaker 2: We're going to have to edit that now. What are
- 7:50Speaker 2: you talking about?
- 7:51Speaker 1: Oh, stop.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Because you're the only person in Bergen County. Listen, even
- 7:54Speaker 3: where I live, I live in Madison. Huge Halloween parade.
- 7:58Speaker 2: No, I will say. I will say that not far
- 8:02Speaker 2: from our residence, from our estate, not far from our estate,
- 8:08Speaker 2: There are probably four to five streets that everybody knows
- 8:15Speaker 2: that those are the houses that do the full-size candy bars.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Full-size.
- 8:21Speaker 2: It's all about the full-size. There's a couple of families
- 8:25Speaker 2: that are from Eastern Europe or somewhere, and they always
- 8:28Speaker 2: put out these pastries you can't get in the U.S.,
- 8:31Speaker 2: and they're delicious. It's like a party. The parents are
- 8:37Speaker 2: walking up and down the street. They got their Stanleys.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Don't think they have water in them. I'm just saying.
- 8:42Speaker 2: I think they got something else in the Stanleys besides
- 8:45Speaker 2: the water.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Of course they do.
- 8:47Speaker 2: There might be an adult beverage or two. Oh, really?
- 8:50Speaker 2: Half the parents are in costumes. That's actually the fun
- 8:53Speaker 2: part of it. I like trick-or-treat.
- 8:55Speaker 3: What, that they're drunk? That the parents are drunk? That's
- 8:57Speaker 3: the fun part? The parents are drunk?
- 8:59Speaker 2: Nobody gets drunk. You just have a little buzz on.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Because you've got to wait for your kid to go up.
- 9:05Speaker 2: First of all, The lawns are like 15,000 yards long.
- 9:08Speaker 2: So they got to go all the way up there
- 9:10Speaker 2: to get to the porch and then come all the
- 9:13Speaker 2: way back just to get the one piece of candy.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Oh, boy. Yeah.
- 9:17Speaker 2: But if you do have a group of parental friends
- 9:19Speaker 2: that you are friendly with, it is kind of a
- 9:21Speaker 2: nice night.
- 9:21Speaker 3: We'll all drink together.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Well, yeah. You kind of walk the neighborhood. And there's
- 9:25Speaker 2: this one dad. There's this one dad that always does
- 9:28Speaker 2: something like super crazy. Like he comes like he's the
- 9:31Speaker 2: Grinch or something. But he's in like full makeup. Full,
- 9:35Speaker 2: full spot on, like all out. And then he just
- 9:38Speaker 2: like walks around and booze.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Too much time. You have too much time on your hands.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Well, he does for sure. I've gone as a middle
- 9:45Speaker 2: aged dad for the last five years.
- 9:48Speaker 3: And you know what, Kevin?
- 9:49Speaker 2: You're pretty good.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Consistency is the key to success.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Stay with us. It's a crazy, spooky travel Tuesday. Stay
- 9:57Speaker 2: with us.
- 10:02Speaker 1: From New York, it's Radio Night Live with Kevin McCullough.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's Travel Tuesday. We have yet to discuss
- 10:10Speaker 2: the travel topic. She's Linda Perilla. I'm Kevin McCullough. So
- 10:13Speaker 2: did you see yesterday? I got sent. So. There are
- 10:19Speaker 2: only a handful of people that will ever really send
- 10:21Speaker 2: me stuff regularly that believe I will read it. I
- 10:25Speaker 2: have a ton of people that send me stuff in
- 10:26Speaker 2: DMs and stuff all the time that I never even
- 10:28Speaker 2: look at. But if I get one from the bride,
- 10:31Speaker 2: my lovely bride, then I think I should probably look
- 10:34Speaker 2: at this because she's then going to ask me over dinner,
- 10:37Speaker 2: did you look at the thing I sent you today? Yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 2: of course. And I always want to have the right answer. Yes, ma'am.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Or no, I think there was something wrong with the phone.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Could you send it again? But... That's only when I
- 10:48Speaker 2: haven't seen it. But she sent me this thing about
- 10:52Speaker 2: this airline incident yesterday in which, and I didn't know
- 10:57Speaker 2: how to feel about it. I didn't know if I
- 10:58Speaker 2: should feel good about it or worried about it. But
- 11:01Speaker 2: there was a flight that was, I think it was
- 11:04Speaker 2: United Flight, that was in process. I think they were
- 11:09Speaker 2: headed to Vegas from the East Coast. And There was
- 11:17Speaker 2: someone on the plane that texted to someone else that
- 11:21Speaker 2: he was about to... The 25-year-old communicated he was going
- 11:26Speaker 2: to hijack this plane. And he used an expletive. And
- 11:34Speaker 2: that was enough. And he just texted. I don't know
- 11:38Speaker 2: who he texted it to. I don't know why. But
- 11:41Speaker 2: that was enough for them to... quietly alert the pilot
- 11:47Speaker 2: the pilot alerted the ground authorities they turned the plane
- 11:51Speaker 2: around they went back and the the guy that was
- 11:55Speaker 2: on the other end of the radio for the pilot
- 11:56Speaker 2: was like uh have you subdued him is he is
- 11:59Speaker 2: he restrained and the pilot was like there's no need
- 12:02Speaker 2: to restrain him he he does not know we have
- 12:04Speaker 2: discovered his plan right he is sitting peacefully in his
- 12:08Speaker 2: seat and evidently they landed and walked him out and
- 12:13Speaker 2: that was it but There were a couple of questions
- 12:17Speaker 2: I had about this story. But first of all, I'm
- 12:18Speaker 2: just grateful that they stopped it before it ever turned
- 12:21Speaker 2: into anything. And if I was one of the other
- 12:23Speaker 2: people on the plane going, why did we go back?
- 12:27Speaker 2: That would satisfactorily answer my question if they told me
- 12:31Speaker 2: that much.
- 12:32Speaker 3: So, you know, it's very interesting because I probably had
- 12:36Speaker 3: the same experience. The same questions you did. You know,
- 12:41Speaker 3: if you see a flight attendant, right, she's he or
- 12:44Speaker 3: she are going. I have the story up here. They're
- 12:49Speaker 3: walking up and down the aisles. Right. There are so
- 12:51Speaker 3: many people that constantly. But there are so many people
- 12:55Speaker 3: that are on their devices in flight that. How do
- 13:00Speaker 3: you pick up on that? How do you notice where
- 13:03Speaker 3: was this guy sitting and what I would love to
- 13:06Speaker 3: know what alerted her or him to this one text?
- 13:11Speaker 3: I mean, those flights, Kevin Vegas flights are always packed
- 13:16Speaker 3: to capacity always. So what were the chances? Where was
- 13:21Speaker 3: he sitting? Was he in first class? Was he in coach?
- 13:23Speaker 3: What was he doing to initiate her or him? finding
- 13:30Speaker 3: this text message.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I believe it was a, he 25 year old. Yeah.
- 13:37Speaker 2: That he, he.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Was arrested, but I'm talking about the flight attendant. Yeah.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Well, here's so that you notice that the AP who's
- 13:47Speaker 2: the story we're reading off of does not mention in
- 13:50Speaker 2: any characteristics about the man. So they accept that he's
- 13:55Speaker 2: 25 years old and that it's a heat. Um, Which
- 14:00Speaker 2: I guess in the AP style book could still be
- 14:02Speaker 2: a she these days. But let's just assume that they're
- 14:04Speaker 2: getting that part right. That it is in fact a he.
- 14:09Speaker 2: An actual he. Not someone who wants to be a
- 14:11Speaker 2: he and is pretending to be a he. Like Elliot, whoever,
- 14:15Speaker 2: what's her name is. But like an actual he. 25
- 14:18Speaker 2: years old.
- 14:19Speaker 3: And.
- 14:22Speaker 2: They, for some reason, zero in. Now, first of all,
- 14:24Speaker 2: I have an iPhone 15. I don't know what size
- 14:27Speaker 2: phone you have, but my screen, it's not tiny. But
- 14:31Speaker 2: when I'm texting, I'm not sitting in a way that
- 14:35Speaker 2: anyone around me can see my screen. Right. Like I
- 14:38Speaker 2: keep my screen and that's and I have nothing to hide.
- 14:41Speaker 2: I'm not hijacking a plane. It's just none of the
- 14:43Speaker 2: world's dang business what I'm texting.
- 14:45Speaker 3: Well, some people have those those screens where they're called
- 14:50Speaker 3: privacy screens. You know, if you put a special coding
- 14:52Speaker 3: on your phone, you see that.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
- 14:55Speaker 3: And nobody can see anything.
- 14:56Speaker 2: So but even I don't I don't have one of those.
- 14:59Speaker 2: But when I text, I'm I'm like right here. And
- 15:02Speaker 2: I know that I've got broad shoulders. I can hold
- 15:04Speaker 2: it down a certain way. Nobody's going to see what
- 15:06Speaker 2: I'm texting. How did she see it? Now, that makes
- 15:11Speaker 2: me wonder, were there other indicators that maybe they were
- 15:16Speaker 2: clued in on? Maybe he looked like he might be
- 15:22Speaker 2: Middle Eastern. Maybe he said something about Allahu Akbar. Maybe he, like...
- 15:31Speaker 2: Something had to trigger because I'll guarantee you this wasn't like,
- 15:36Speaker 2: you know, Minnesota, Minnesota, Steve. Like, no, it might have
- 15:40Speaker 2: been Somalian, Steve, but it wasn't Minnesota, Steve. And well,
- 15:45Speaker 2: he was. So what did what did they pick up
- 15:47Speaker 2: on and how did they see that screen? That's the
- 15:49Speaker 2: part that that is confusing to me.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:51Speaker 3: And that's what I said, too. How did this even evolve?
- 15:55Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:55Speaker 3: I mean, thank the Lord. But here's the other thing, too.
- 16:00Speaker 3: You've got to say to yourself, again, where was he seated?
- 16:03Speaker 3: Was he in the back of the plane? If he
- 16:05Speaker 3: made a run for the cockpit, was he going to
- 16:09Speaker 3: be able to be subdued? Did he have accomplices on
- 16:12Speaker 3: the plane that they were getting ready to rumble? I mean,
- 16:16Speaker 3: you don't know. I think eventually, though, people like us
- 16:21Speaker 3: that are civilians are going to have questions because now—
- 16:25Speaker 3: In a lot of ways, Kevin. OK, so I think
- 16:28Speaker 3: this is twofold. We are way more. Now, listen, 9-11
- 16:33Speaker 3: and any time there's a tragedy, Kevin, unfortunately, tragedy brings
- 16:38Speaker 3: about change.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 16:39Speaker 3: And if you want to look at the travel industry,
- 16:43Speaker 3: things like 9-11, things like any kind of hijackings, especially.
- 16:48Speaker 2: That was really hijacking two to three weeks ago.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Brings about change, change in protocol, change in safety, change
- 16:57Speaker 3: in the way a cockpit is designed. All these things happen. Unfortunately,
- 17:02Speaker 3: there has to be a tragedy prior. So, you know,
- 17:07Speaker 3: the question remains like. Like you said, what was this
- 17:11Speaker 3: guy going to be able to do is what I'd
- 17:14Speaker 3: like to know. Like how how was he going to
- 17:17Speaker 3: carry out his plan unless he was just being a
- 17:20Speaker 3: drunk big shot? I mean, he was coming from Vegas
- 17:23Speaker 3: and going to to Newark.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's 25. And and the Vegas part doesn't
- 17:30Speaker 2: clue me in that much. But landing in Newark, you know,
- 17:34Speaker 2: where we've had cells that were part of the first
- 17:37Speaker 2: world trade bombing. And then they were running around in
- 17:39Speaker 2: the streets of New Jersey cheering that the buildings were
- 17:43Speaker 2: on fire. And then you had people after 9-11 who
- 17:48Speaker 2: literally cheered that the buildings fell. And they were all
- 17:51Speaker 2: in the northern New Jersey area. Newark is, of course,
- 17:55Speaker 2: the airport that services that area the most closely. The
- 17:59Speaker 2: FAA said that this year they've had 1,400 deaths. unruly
- 18:04Speaker 2: passenger incidents thus far. That's before this year's holiday cycle
- 18:08Speaker 2: kicks in. So 1,400, according to the FAA, globally, under
- 18:13Speaker 2: their watch, they've had 1,400 unruly passengers that have created
- 18:18Speaker 2: enough of a problem to be considered unruly in this
- 18:22Speaker 2: kind of manner. I don't know if that's higher than
- 18:27Speaker 2: average or not, but that seems like a big number
- 18:30Speaker 2: for It does. And I and I considering traveling.
- 18:35Speaker 3: I want to go back to my point for a
- 18:36Speaker 3: second about, you know, tragedy allowing us to improve. But
- 18:41Speaker 3: I feel, Kevin, in a lot of ways that we
- 18:43Speaker 3: have made all these improvements and now we're going backwards
- 18:48Speaker 3: when it comes to hijacking.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Let's pick up on that after the break.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Are we going backwards on the safety of our travel,
- 18:55Speaker 2: especially by air?
- 18:56Speaker 3: Stay with us.
- 19:03Speaker 1: And now from New York, back to Radio Night Live.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Here's Kevin McCullough.
- 19:09Speaker 2: All right. When we last were talking, Linda Perillo, Kevin McCullough,
- 19:14Speaker 2: she was telling us that you feel like that. It's
- 19:18Speaker 2: kind of deja vu. We're going back backwards in safety
- 19:22Speaker 2: on air travel.
- 19:23Speaker 3: In some ways. I mean, this hijacking thing, hijacking to
- 19:27Speaker 3: me is like very retro. And but we seem to be.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Doing that again. And unfortunately, for the people that are
- 19:38Speaker 3: innocent and the people that abide by the rules and
- 19:40Speaker 3: the non crazies of this world, you know, they they
- 19:44Speaker 3: start to ease up on the rules a little bit.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Right.
- 19:47Speaker 3: You can leave your shoes on. Now we have TSA pre.
- 19:50Speaker 3: You have Global Entry. You have Clear. You have all
- 19:54Speaker 3: these mechanisms that allow people to advance quickly, to get
- 19:59Speaker 3: through security faster, right? We have biometrics, all this stuff.
- 20:03Speaker 3: because things were going well. So now are we going
- 20:07Speaker 3: to take a step backwards and now we're going to
- 20:09Speaker 3: have these security lines? Are we going to end up
- 20:13Speaker 3: with all these strict security measures again? Because you get,
- 20:17Speaker 3: and here's the thing, Kevin, it takes one bleepity bleep
- 20:22Speaker 3: like this guy to completely screw it up for the
- 20:26Speaker 3: rest of the country again.
- 20:29Speaker 2: If you think about what these people are doing, if
- 20:32Speaker 2: they're really serious on wanting to hijack and blow things up,
- 20:36Speaker 2: they couldn't care less what kind of impact they're making
- 20:38Speaker 2: on the industry. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I'm not concerned with what they think. We have to
- 20:45Speaker 2: be right 100% of the time. They have to be
- 20:47Speaker 2: right once.
- 20:48Speaker 3: You are correct, but my point is, it's things like
- 20:51Speaker 3: that that will affect our safety again. Now, I do
- 20:58Speaker 3: believe TSA... I really don't want to malign any TSA worker.
- 21:05Speaker 3: A lot of them work very hard. It's a very
- 21:07Speaker 3: tedious job. You can't miss a thing. You know, I
- 21:11Speaker 3: was watching my bag go through on our last trip
- 21:13Speaker 3: and I'm like, this girl is like looking like if
- 21:17Speaker 3: she misses something, God, you don't know if she's going
- 21:21Speaker 3: to miss something. And it's possible to miss something. I
- 21:24Speaker 3: think we need military. We need to do what the
- 21:28Speaker 3: Israelis do. We need military. to be RTSA peeps. I'm sorry.
- 21:34Speaker 3: I just think we'll be less scared. I don't think
- 21:37Speaker 3: these people are scared of our security system.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Well, you know what's interesting? I think that you are
- 21:43Speaker 2: onto something there. And have you flown through Jerusalem or
- 21:47Speaker 2: Tel Aviv, rather? No, but I know about it. It
- 21:51Speaker 2: is the most incredible experience to arrive and to depart
- 21:55Speaker 2: Tel Aviv Airport. And let me explain why. When you.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Arrive, it's fairly simple. You get through customs. Why are
- 22:05Speaker 2: you here? They look at the thing. They stamp your passport.
- 22:08Speaker 2: You're off and you get your bags and go. It's
- 22:11Speaker 2: pretty normal. But when you arrive to leave from Tel Aviv,
- 22:16Speaker 2: they make you pass through sometimes three to six different checkpoints.
- 22:22Speaker 2: And they're not long lines. They move them pretty quickly, actually.
- 22:27Speaker 2: But several of them will be a conversation that an
- 22:33Speaker 2: agent engages you in. And they will be studying your eyes,
- 22:36Speaker 2: your facial movements, your body language. And they'll ask you
- 22:42Speaker 2: a series of questions and they start out with very
- 22:44Speaker 2: simple ones like, what's your name and where are you from?
- 22:46Speaker 2: And that sort of thing kind of gets you talking.
- 22:49Speaker 2: And then they'll ask you something that if you were
- 22:52Speaker 2: nefarious in your motives, it will be a tell and
- 22:55Speaker 2: it'll trip them. But they have some of the best
- 22:59Speaker 2: like when you look at the average of like what
- 23:02Speaker 2: gets past them on planes, they are so much better
- 23:05Speaker 2: at security screening than anything that the West does. You
- 23:08Speaker 2: go to any of the airports in the West, we
- 23:10Speaker 2: think it's metal detectors and, you know, body checks. And
- 23:15Speaker 2: these guys, they never touch you. They may search you
- 23:18Speaker 2: if you give them reason to search you. Like you say, well,
- 23:20Speaker 2: I have a gun in my pocket, you know, then
- 23:21Speaker 2: they may search you. But they do it all by
- 23:24Speaker 2: just reading you as a person. And you're not passing
- 23:28Speaker 2: through a lot of radiation and other things to get
- 23:30Speaker 2: through x-ray machines. It's a human-to-human examination, and they have
- 23:35Speaker 2: one of the tightest security protocols in the world, which
- 23:40Speaker 2: speaks loudly because everyone in their neighborhood is trying to
- 23:43Speaker 2: kill them all the time. They have to be right
- 23:45Speaker 2: all the time. But I wish we did more of that.
- 23:48Speaker 2: But there's a problem here. Our security apparatus is all
- 23:54Speaker 2: federalized union employees. Yes, absolutely. Once they get the job,
- 23:58Speaker 2: you can't ever fire them because the union makes sure
- 24:01Speaker 2: that you never get fired and you can be a
- 24:03Speaker 2: complete slug. And believe me, in the New York airports,
- 24:07Speaker 2: there are a lot of them, all three of them.
- 24:09Speaker 2: You just walk up. You can tell this person has
- 24:11Speaker 2: no desire to even be doing this job today. Here
- 24:15Speaker 2: they are just kind of going through the motions. That's
- 24:17Speaker 2: the days I kind of like get, you know, extra
- 24:21Speaker 2: chippy about people getting too close and making sure that
- 24:24Speaker 2: we get through security properly and all the rest. Because
- 24:26Speaker 2: I remember 9-11. I remember watching the second plane hit live.
- 24:30Speaker 2: It's just, I don't want us to go back to
- 24:32Speaker 2: that ever again. And I feel like that sometimes we
- 24:35Speaker 2: are so off our game in.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Terms of what we do. Yeah, I do. I think
- 24:39Speaker 3: we have, you know, I think we've become a little
- 24:41Speaker 3: more lax, unfortunately. I do. But the other thing is
- 24:46Speaker 3: that we didn't expect this renaissance of terror to start again. And-
- 24:53Speaker 3: I think, unfortunately, it has. Now, listen, I was thinking
- 24:55Speaker 3: about this. So this guy.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Hold that thought. Come right back. I'll take another break.
- 25:01Speaker 2: She's Linda. I'm Kevin. Travel Tuesday. Stay here.
- 25:06Speaker 3: What a little moonlight can do.
- 25:08Speaker 2: It's Radio Night Live. Here's Kevin McCullough. All right, welcome back.
- 25:14Speaker 2: It's Radio Night Live. It's Tuesday travel, Travel Tuesday. She's
- 25:18Speaker 2: Linda Perillo. I'm Kevin McCullough. And Linda, you wanted to
- 25:21Speaker 2: add something to the discussion about airport security.
- 25:24Speaker 3: Yes, so this guy on the plane, now he was released,
- 25:27Speaker 3: taken off the plane, released $ 10, 000 bail. So somebody's got
- 25:32Speaker 3: $ 10, 000 to send this guy back into the woods today.
- 25:36Speaker 3: But so here's the thing. I think the way they
- 25:39Speaker 3: reacted and kept calm helped the passengers on the plane. OK,
- 25:46Speaker 3: that was a really smart move.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Also, too, if he was in his seat, which I'm
- 25:54Speaker 3: sure they were watching him like this. you know, almost
- 25:57Speaker 3: sitting on him, um, allowed him, I think also to,
- 26:02Speaker 3: to keep, I can't even speak to, um, keep doing
- 26:08Speaker 3: what he was doing.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:09Speaker 3: So maybe if he was texting them more information, more information,
- 26:12Speaker 3: more information, who is he texting? Right. How long is
- 26:16Speaker 3: he texting and stop him from Erasing what was on
- 26:24Speaker 3: his phone, which you could do in a nanosecond because
- 26:26Speaker 3: this guy could come out and say, hey, yeah, I
- 26:31Speaker 3: was just texting my cousin and we were fooling around.
- 26:34Speaker 3: I have what, Kevin? I have my rights. The phone
- 26:38Speaker 3: is mine. I have a right to free speech. I
- 26:41Speaker 3: can text my cousin anything. Huey in Chicago and mess
- 26:45Speaker 3: with him a little bit. Who are you? So I
- 26:47Speaker 3: think the fact that they came in like stealth bombers,
- 26:51Speaker 3: landed that plane, got him off the plane in a
- 26:54Speaker 3: surprise was fabulous. Now, where are the records of these
- 26:59Speaker 3: text messages? I'm wondering whether anybody was able to get
- 27:02Speaker 3: a screenshot or anything while he was doing this. Because
- 27:05Speaker 3: if you were him and now the cops are coming
- 27:08Speaker 3: on board or the marshals are coming to get you,
- 27:11Speaker 3: wouldn't you erase what was on your phone?
- 27:14Speaker 2: Well, you could try. But sadly, well, not sadly, everybody
- 27:21Speaker 2: knows this going in. If it gets digital, it's able
- 27:25Speaker 2: to be recovered. It's not really able to be completely wiped.
- 27:27Speaker 2: So he could temporarily... try to take it off of
- 27:30Speaker 2: the phone, but it would be in the cloud. There would,
- 27:33Speaker 2: there would be a fingerprint of it somewhere. Um, and
- 27:36Speaker 2: they could go find that. And I'm sure that they
- 27:40Speaker 2: did recover. We don't have more details on the arrest
- 27:43Speaker 2: because this just happened yesterday, but I'm, I'm going to
- 27:46Speaker 2: bet you that they have, um, more information than just
- 27:50Speaker 2: that single text message off of that phone already.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:53Speaker 3: I agree with you on that. And listen, this, um, this, uh,
- 27:58Speaker 3: flight attendant is a hero and, uh, be thankful for
- 28:02Speaker 3: their vigilance, but they live it every day. Kevin, it's
- 28:06Speaker 3: heightened awareness, heightened awareness. Every second they're on that plane.
- 28:11Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's their survival. They don't get to
- 28:14Speaker 2: go have dinner with their family. If they don't, if
- 28:16Speaker 2: they're not.
- 28:16Speaker 3: That, that is correct. You're right about that.
- 28:19Speaker 2: Good for them.
- 28:20Speaker 3: Absolutely.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that the, um, let's hope that that
- 28:23Speaker 2: puts an end to the, um, uh, terroristic hijackings for,
- 28:30Speaker 2: for a period of time, at least. Um, although I,
- 28:33Speaker 2: I gotta say when I heard the story, um, of
- 28:36Speaker 2: the hijacking in Israel or in the middle East a
- 28:38Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, I was like, that seems crazy
- 28:43Speaker 2: that a, that a plane could be headed into, but evidently, um,
- 28:50Speaker 2: the other countries in the neighborhood had somehow where this
- 28:55Speaker 2: guy got through the system, um, Or maybe he was
- 28:57Speaker 2: already in the system as a lawful pilot, and he
- 29:01Speaker 2: got radicalized and just.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Decided— They never aired Dubai, never checked his references. That's
- 29:08Speaker 3: what I heard. They did not check his references, and
- 29:12Speaker 3: that's what happened. Now, why? How did something so basic
- 29:15Speaker 3: slip through the cracks? Because he would never have been
- 29:18Speaker 3: given a job, ever. He didn't have a great record.
- 29:22Speaker 2: You would hope that these Islamic states will— on some level,
- 29:26Speaker 2: play nice with the rest of the world. I just, I,
- 29:29Speaker 2: I can't take them at their word. When you tell
- 29:32Speaker 2: me that you, can lie to the infidel, like that's
- 29:40Speaker 2: part of your theology, that it's okay to lie to
- 29:42Speaker 2: the infidel. And who's the infidel in your situation? Well,
- 29:44Speaker 2: it's whoever I say it is. For them, basically, that's it.
- 29:47Speaker 2: It's anybody who's not me or like me or follows
- 29:51Speaker 2: the same exact things that I do. Now, I know
- 29:53Speaker 2: that not all Muslims believe that. I have some Muslim
- 29:56Speaker 2: friends that I don't think believe that at all. But
- 29:59Speaker 2: we're not talking about rational people living in a multi-ethnic,
- 30:05Speaker 2: you know, ecumenical environment. We're talking about people that live in,
- 30:09Speaker 2: you know, pretty tunnel visioned arenas with pretty fundamentalist views
- 30:16Speaker 2: of like what their faith is supposed to be and
- 30:18Speaker 2: not be. And it doesn't take much. It takes a
- 30:21Speaker 2: lot more for an American Muslim to get radicalized and
- 30:25Speaker 2: be brought to the extremist level than it does, say,
- 30:27Speaker 2: someone who's living in Yemen. And that's the difference. In
- 30:31Speaker 2: that region, you just don't have a lot of plurality.
- 30:35Speaker 2: So it's a bigger problem.
- 30:36Speaker 3: No, you don't. It is a bigger problem. And, you know,
- 30:39Speaker 3: the other thing is that, you know, it takes one person.
- 30:42Speaker 3: Small cell, Kevin. One. Three people. Three people to take
- 30:47Speaker 3: down an airplane, if you think about it. And that's
- 30:52Speaker 3: the scary part. And they're trained. They are trained.
- 30:55Speaker 2: Or in his case, he thought he could do it
- 30:56Speaker 2: just from the cockpit.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Well, okay. Interesting. Completely switching gears. Have you noticed... Well.
- 31:10Speaker 2: What's your best airport lounge story? I've got a good one.
- 31:17Speaker 2: I've got a good one. It has to do with Israel.
- 31:22Speaker 2: What's the main airline for Israel? LL? When I flew
- 31:26Speaker 2: to Israel the first time, I was the guest of
- 31:29Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. They paid for all of my stuff there.
- 31:32Speaker 2: I went and saw things. It was kind of a
- 31:36Speaker 2: cool program. But when we were flying back, Part of
- 31:40Speaker 2: the perk was we got to show up to the
- 31:43Speaker 2: El Al Lounge before the flight took off. And the
- 31:48Speaker 2: flight was going to take off at like 1 in
- 31:50Speaker 2: the morning. And we had to get there and get
- 31:52Speaker 2: through security like at like 10 p.m. or something. So
- 31:55Speaker 2: we had like this like two-hour, three-hour wait. I've never
- 31:58Speaker 2: seen an airport lounge as luxurious as the one for
- 32:01Speaker 2: El Al in Tel Aviv.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Seriously. The buffet.
- 32:04Speaker 2: The buffet. The endless flowing organic kosher friendly, of course,
- 32:13Speaker 2: wine and champagne and other stuff. But all the stuff
- 32:17Speaker 2: that you wanted, like it was just such and I
- 32:19Speaker 2: had already eaten so well. I really do think produce
- 32:22Speaker 2: in Israel tastes different than it does everywhere else. But
- 32:24Speaker 2: it's such a big food week for me. And then
- 32:27Speaker 2: just to have this like luxurious experience coming. But evidently,
- 32:33Speaker 2: that's what these airport lounges are trying to go for,
- 32:36Speaker 2: and it's starting to get competitive. When we come back,
- 32:39Speaker 2: we'll close on this for Perillo's Pointers. But tell me
- 32:43Speaker 2: about your best airport lounge, and what do you think
- 32:45Speaker 2: of these competitive wars that they've got going on? Because
- 32:49Speaker 2: I think it's actually swaying some people. Anyway, stay with us.
- 32:52Speaker 2: It's Radio Night Live, number one.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Once again, from New York, here's Radio Night Live and
- 33:03Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough.
- 33:06Speaker 2: All right. Welcome back. It has been more travel talk
- 33:10Speaker 2: than I thought we were going to get to. We
- 33:12Speaker 2: just had to have our first get it out of
- 33:14Speaker 2: our system segment at the top of the show. All right.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Airport lounges. Do you like them? Do you use them?
- 33:20Speaker 2: I do.
- 33:21Speaker 3: And I do and I don't. So here's the thing.
- 33:23Speaker 3: I think an airport lounge is fabulous. It's a good
- 33:27Speaker 3: haven for If you have access and you don't have
- 33:30Speaker 3: to pay for it.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 33:31Speaker 3: So let's like take like United or you have one
- 33:34Speaker 3: of their credit cards or American Express. If you have
- 33:37Speaker 3: a platinum card, it should get you into most airport
- 33:41Speaker 3: lounges just by showing your platinum card. So that being said,
- 33:45Speaker 3: years ago, Pan Am, Alitalia, when I traveled with my dad,
- 33:49Speaker 3: if you had a first class ticket, you were welcome
- 33:52Speaker 3: to use their first class lounge. No questions asked, no
- 33:55Speaker 3: extra fees. Whoever was traveling with you came in with you.
- 33:58Speaker 3: That has since died. So now you have to have
- 34:02Speaker 3: some kind of other credentials already. on top of a
- 34:05Speaker 3: first-class ticket. Answer, why? Because it's so easy now to
- 34:09Speaker 3: get an upgrade that any schmo in their freaking ripped
- 34:14Speaker 3: jeans and T-shirt that got an upgrade before they got
- 34:17Speaker 3: to the airport via however they got the upgrade points
- 34:21Speaker 3: or whatever would be invited into the lounge. They want
- 34:24Speaker 3: to keep that riffraff down. So if you have the money, yeah,
- 34:27Speaker 3: you can pay for it. You got the platinum card? Okay,
- 34:29Speaker 3: you're probably qualified too. So that has come... to a halt.
- 34:34Speaker 3: And now the credit card companies are weighing in, right?
- 34:38Speaker 3: So Centurion lounges, American Express lounges, they were one of
- 34:41Speaker 3: the first that said, hey, we're going to offer our
- 34:44Speaker 3: peeps for the $ 500 a year that you pay for
- 34:47Speaker 3: your platinum card. We're going to give you an airport lounge.
- 34:49Speaker 3: You can just walk in, have our food, have our drink.
- 34:51Speaker 3: They're fine. Capital One now is doing the same thing.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Capital One has got lounges all over the place. So
- 35:00Speaker 3: I think if you have access to them, Without paying extra.
- 35:04Speaker 3: And I've paid extra. I have paid for the upgrade
- 35:06Speaker 3: on United if we weren't flying in first class to
- 35:09Speaker 3: get into the lounge. It's a nice place to hang out.
- 35:12Speaker 3: Sometimes the food is good. Sometimes it's OK, but it
- 35:15Speaker 3: stops you from sitting at the gate. Right. You don't
- 35:18Speaker 3: want to hang out the gate.
- 35:18Speaker 2: You want to hang out, which is the huge benefit,
- 35:21Speaker 2: especially if you're trying to fight for a power outlet.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Right. Exactly. You're right. So listen, I want to get
- 35:27Speaker 3: somebody on and I'm going to dig from Priority Pass.
- 35:31Speaker 3: So Priority Pass is airport lounge membership that you pay
- 35:35Speaker 3: for once a year that gets you into these airport
- 35:38Speaker 3: lounges without having to have a ticket on United, a
- 35:42Speaker 3: first class ticket paying extra money. I want to know
- 35:45Speaker 3: how this works because I do like the lounges. I
- 35:48Speaker 3: got to admit, I like them. Sorry.
- 35:50Speaker 2: What's not to like? Good food.
- 35:52Speaker 3: What's not to like?
- 35:53Speaker 2: And like they have like chefs that are back there
- 35:56Speaker 2: making stuff fresh. Like in Tel Aviv, like they had
- 35:59Speaker 2: like an omelet guy that was there at. 10 o'clock
- 36:03Speaker 2: at night making fresh omelets from people. And you're like, ooh.
- 36:05Speaker 3: Alitalia? That was one of the best. I mean, they
- 36:08Speaker 3: had fresh. They don't have. Alitalia's gone. But they had
- 36:11Speaker 3: a pasta station, a chef back there. I mean, the
- 36:14Speaker 3: auto grills in Italy have fresh mozzarella. They have the
- 36:16Speaker 3: best food going. So why not extend that to the lounge? Like,
- 36:19Speaker 3: come on.
- 36:20Speaker 2: We locally source the produce right there.
- 36:23Speaker 3: The Italians. Just eat before you eat because you're going
- 36:26Speaker 3: to eat on the plane. But why not? You got
- 36:28Speaker 3: to eat before you eat. So eat.
- 36:31Speaker 2: Makes sense to me. All right. Well, Linda, always a
- 36:34Speaker 2: fun night with you. Thank you for another great Travel Tuesday.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Thank you, Kev. You have a good one now.
- 36:39Speaker 2: You got it. Now, tomorrow, friends, we're talking wellness. And
- 36:41Speaker 2: then on Thursday, legal stuff. And then on Friday, Christine
- 36:44Speaker 2: will be back and we'll have some fun for your Friday.
- 36:48Speaker 2: I'm off right now to go see the Broadway show Wanted.
- 36:50Speaker 2: We'll give you the review of that in the days
- 36:53Speaker 2: and weeks to come as well. I think Linda's going
- 36:55Speaker 2: to go watch baseball now, so I feel sorry for her,
- 36:57Speaker 2: but we'll see.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Tonight, yes I am. Goodbye.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough and Linda Perrillo. See you next time.