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Moving On From a Breakup

Josh Gondelman talks with caller Mary Kate about breakups, self-definition, and the mantra she wrote in her journal to get herself through it.

What You'll Hear

A Long-Overdue Museum Walk: Josh finally makes it to the Art Institute of Chicago after promising himself for years, and comes away with a soft spot for El Greco, a name that tickles him more than it probably should.

The Line She Wrote to Get Through It: Caller Mary Kate opens up about her first serious breakup, and the sentence she scribbled down mid-heartbreak that's carried her since: I prevail because I can define myself.

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