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Patriots Unfiltered 3/17: New England's Approach to Free Agency, Big Moves Around the NFL · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patrick gets unfiltered, he gets the haircut, then he's traded.
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  Speaker 1: It's hair today, gone tomorrow. So mad he didn't get
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  Speaker 1: the right guy. It's like, can I just has he
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  Speaker 1: signed with anyone? He hasn't. But the fact that I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a good player, but I don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: in his prime, much like I know mccauody's not in
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  Speaker 1: this spot. Right, Paul thinks the guy who stays on
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  Speaker 1: his own team is more valuable. Then so that Eric
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  Speaker 1: I caught that too. I didn't want to go down
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  Speaker 1: that road. I get it. That's that's thanks, that's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny for you normally the most humorless guy on
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  Speaker 1: the playoff. I just said that I wouldn't want Tyron Matthew.
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  Speaker 1: He looked at me like, I just like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ate an onion or something better from last year? No
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  Speaker 1: over wake of it. Liked they that way? Really talking
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  Speaker 1: about three players at this point, right, Slater, mccordy and
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  Speaker 1: now James White. That's that's too too many in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't get really dramatic. Paul's on Fired today
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  Speaker 1: kind of linebacker drives around in a Mini Cooper. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that was ridiculous. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Gilette Stadium, and boy, we got a lot to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Paul's not here today. It's Duce, Eric, myself,
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  Speaker 1: Matt in the booth. Paul's on NC double a vacation.
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  Speaker 1: He's gotta like he's got to watch these things. Take
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  Speaker 1: the day off. It's like he's seat belting into his couch,
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  Speaker 1: right yeah, I mean, god forbid he misses, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Dayton and Cincinnati or whoever the hell's playing. I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably already. It's also Saint Patrick's Day, so he
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  Speaker 1: got built an excuse, but he was all fired up.
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  Speaker 1: Who was it was Good's day. He's he's like not happy.
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  Speaker 1: He was so fired up. We didn't even talk about
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I know everybody called it. Did you do
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  Speaker 1: it on purpose? I'm we're so done. We had a
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  Speaker 1: two hour show on Tuesday and we didn't even talk
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  Speaker 1: about Tom Brady coming back, and as Chris fur said, well,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't mention us feel Yeah, I mean, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna talk about a lot about that
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  Speaker 1: today because we've got a lot of more propressing issues
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  Speaker 1: to discuss. Terrence Mitchell, my god, yeah, well that's his name,
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  Speaker 1: A signing, a signing. Yeah, we don't even have us signing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we have us signing. The Shack Mason trade. That's a
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  Speaker 1: big that's a big deal which is yet to be
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  Speaker 1: confirmed because the aforementioned us, the Cruise and Sody trade.
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  Speaker 1: Me because I'm chilling on maybe one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: they can't make any moves is because they haven't cleared
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  Speaker 1: the seven million off the cat must be some trade,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thing you could tell the league it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I know those aren't the rules. Can you
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  Speaker 1: give us? That's what I was probot. We have to
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because it's gonna happen and get a
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  Speaker 1: physical and the leagues, the league sitting there like, ah, shocks,
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  Speaker 1: too bad, too bad. But that's what legitimately wonder was
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  Speaker 1: is this going to hold things up? And then they have,
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  Speaker 1: you know, another maybe free agent that they'd like to
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  Speaker 1: move on, but they can't officially yet. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how that that all works. I think that's what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I would hope that that they would have been like,
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  Speaker 1: does anyone know where Shack Mason is before we trade him?
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  Speaker 1: In the middle of we were saying like, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: no like reception on the boat. So he hasn't like
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  Speaker 1: gotten the word yet that he's been traded. And well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's the big thing, um that everyone's wondering,
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  Speaker 1: is what are the Patriots going to do? What are
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  Speaker 1: you know? They got rid of Winovich? Yea, they just
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  Speaker 1: traded Shack Mason, which I think a mild shot, a
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  Speaker 1: mild surprise. Yeah. So, but I'd like to point out that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been saying for two months that he
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  Speaker 1: was a contract that could get shoved or readjusted. Him
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  Speaker 1: and Jonathan Jones, those were the two. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think the player was surprising. I think that the compensation
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  Speaker 1: was surprising, But I think what they got in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the cap space that they needed, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the fifth rounder, it's it's it's there's no there's no
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  Speaker 1: sugarcoating it. And I had some weird conversations with Paul
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  Speaker 1: yesterday to you know, which is it's just funny because
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  Speaker 1: on one hand, you know, he definitely wasn't happy about it,
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  Speaker 1: but he also doesn't really value offensive linsive linemen, especially guards,
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  Speaker 1: so right, and but what it does to me my
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  Speaker 1: reaction is, Okay, we already knew going into this offseason
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  Speaker 1: you had needs at cornerback, wide receiver. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it, running back maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but definitely edge or outside linebacker. Now you have to
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  Speaker 1: add offensive line to the mix because you lose two
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  Speaker 1: starting guards. You're probably not going to resign Trent Brown,
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  Speaker 1: who's I think visiting Seattle, but said New England still
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  Speaker 1: in the mix. I think that's a go and check
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  Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't put rule the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots out just because he's looking elsewhere. No, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: but it's possible chances. I mean, he's done this before.
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  Speaker 1: He played like he hasn't slept in ten days. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, you like to say this is radio. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's done this before. He played here for a year,
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  Speaker 1: cash in on a big deal, then when that team
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  Speaker 1: didn't want him be came back. Now he played well
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  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna cash in on a bigger deal than
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  Speaker 1: we're likely to pay him. Yeah, it sounds like he
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  Speaker 1: wants a long term place that he can kind of
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  Speaker 1: put roots. He's been bouncing around for a few years.
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  Speaker 1: So I think now you have to add offensive line too.
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  Speaker 1: Even if Brown comes back, I'd still think you have
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  Speaker 1: an issue with that interior. Sure, so offensive line is
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  Speaker 1: now one of yet another issue that you have to
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  Speaker 1: deal with this offseason. Yeah, and now I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 1: he goes out, gets collects his offers, comes back here
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  Speaker 1: and says, okay, we can do that, and he comes back.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be down, I hope. Yeah, I'd be down to
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  Speaker 1: keep him. I mean, I think that he's there's not
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  Speaker 1: many guys out there that big, and you can't teach size.
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  Speaker 1: He's the biggest guy in the NFS still, and he's
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  Speaker 1: cool in his twenties. And I know that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think he started the first couple of games he
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  Speaker 1: played last year when he came back was great, and
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  Speaker 1: I think he was okay after that, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: not quite as dominant in spurts. But I'd still sign
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  Speaker 1: up for him at right tackle. And I know that
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  Speaker 1: they've been connected to Layale call. They'd have to trade
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  Speaker 1: for him. They have to. I mean he I think
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  Speaker 1: I saw he has ten million a year for the
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  Speaker 1: next three years. That's a lot. Yeah, Now what do
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  Speaker 1: you what would you be willing to pay Trent Brown
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  Speaker 1: right somewhere in that neighborhood I would imagine, right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So either it's I mean, if you're willing to pay
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  Speaker 1: that much for l Collins might as well play Brown.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Collins injury history, if he's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more durable, Yeah, sure. I think he's got
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  Speaker 1: some off the field issues too. Is that why the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys want to get rid of him? Mention? I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure why they want to why why his name is
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  Speaker 1: in the mix. But I think he's had he's had
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  Speaker 1: some issues that make them movable. But it's it's a need.
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  Speaker 1: And Isaiah Wynn, I mean, I don't think anybody feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's the long term solution at left tackle. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen plenty people still speculating moving into guard. So Matt
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  Speaker 1: Matt Chaddam was tweeting about a Boston college guard that
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  Speaker 1: is a sure thing. John, Yeah, I he's one story. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to him at the combine, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I liked him. I liked him, just you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: take him in the first round. Well he's That's probably
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  Speaker 1: the area. I don't know what the Patriots should but
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  Speaker 1: that's probably the area he's gonna go. But correct me
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  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. But he looks like he has the
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  Speaker 1: size and sort of versatility to play either guard or tackle.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds more like a tackle than a guard. Really athletic,
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  Speaker 1: really athletic guy. So I mean, if you're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: someone in the first round, it should be somebody who
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  Speaker 1: is like even Mankins. He wasn't he played guard here,
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  Speaker 1: but like he he played tackle on occasion when they
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  Speaker 1: needed him to. Yeah, as a pro, I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna take a guy like that in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: he should be able to do more than one thing.
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  Speaker 1: He should be an offensive lineman, not just a guard
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, Yeah, at least because Scion Johnson sounds
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  Speaker 1: like that kind of blue chip left tackle. Yeah yeah, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: which is uh, you know, just disappointing. You get a
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  Speaker 1: first round pick you think, you know, win would have
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  Speaker 1: been that guy, and had they hit on that one,
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  Speaker 1: that would be locked down and you wouldn't have to
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  Speaker 1: think about that part of it too. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, there's a I think we're still in kind
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  Speaker 1: of the holding mode. I thought yesterday I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was like Day one, take care of our own guys.
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  Speaker 1: Day two, a couple of trades. Day three we strike No,
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  Speaker 1: not quite who we're still waiting for that. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: what's Matt shoot On doing? Do you hear? You see
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  Speaker 1: his tweets? Oh? Yeah, after recruiting. Yeah, it's funny, it's
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  Speaker 1: a little embarrassing. I wonder what the two look thinks
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  Speaker 1: about that. I do. And he's getting mad when they know,
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  Speaker 1: like frustration give He's like he's like the representative of
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots fan right now. Right he's out there like saying, yo, yo,
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  Speaker 1: want to come play here? No? Why not? Come on? Man? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Sending now Julio Jones like a picture just of Matt
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  Speaker 1: Jones standing there and like a T shirt, Like what
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  Speaker 1: do you think of this? You should have sent him
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  Speaker 1: the gift of him doing the gritty right, I know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more appealing. It's my quarterback. It's funny,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. I do wonder you know how they feel
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  Speaker 1: about it. They Slater talk today and he was laughing
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  Speaker 1: about it and thought it was was in good fun
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  Speaker 1: and you know said how you know chewed on Just
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  Speaker 1: his personality has been been great and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun and kind of a jolt of energy that they needed.
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  Speaker 1: So um, we'll see. I don't know how much his
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  Speaker 1: recruiting he's helping so far yet, but yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: Julio Jones. You know, at this point, i'd pay him
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  Speaker 1: for a vetem minimum I bring him in, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'd waste a lot of money on him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would rather get a young waste. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'd spend a lot of money. Yeah, I would rather
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  Speaker 1: look to the draft for for that position at this point. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I do both if you can, if you can, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well there's still guys out there too. I mean, so again,
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  Speaker 1: bringing in a free agent does not say you can't
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  Speaker 1: draft that position. No, no no, no, no, I'm just trying
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  Speaker 1: to Like I'm I'm thinking, if you sign a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Julio Jones, the expectation is he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: on your roster in September, right, Yeah, you're not thinking
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  Speaker 1: of him as like a just a camp body you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at him is to be a contributor. Yeah right,
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  Speaker 1: so him born Agalore, Jacoby Meyers. You just tendered. So
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  Speaker 1: if you draft somebody, where does that draft pick fall out?
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  Speaker 1: Like right? It's a numbers game. And then you trade Agalore?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know? Yeah maybe, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: think you know. Gunner, we'll see what happens with him.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't get tendered, so you i'd have you know, we
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  Speaker 1: need for a punt return, so maybe you get a
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  Speaker 1: rookie he can return punts and be kind of that
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  Speaker 1: spot four fifth receiver. But oh and chances of our
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: drafting Alley Raceman just went up too. Huh, why need
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: Yakob's going to Vegas? I need another European, need another
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  Speaker 1: German speaking person? Really upset they didn't consult me before
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  Speaker 1: they made that move. Yeah, Jacob signed with Vague Raiders
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  Speaker 1: for about a million bucks. We couldn't give him a
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  Speaker 1: million bucks, so so did good old Bolden. Bolden's over
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  Speaker 1: there too. Yeah. See, now you know Paul was worried
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  Speaker 1: about keeping all these old players, and all I see
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  Speaker 1: is them leaving. Yeah. Well, but see, in fairness, Josh
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  Speaker 1: is kind of doing what Yeah, a lot of coaches
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  Speaker 1: do when they go to a new team, like Belichick
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  Speaker 1: did it when he went to the Browns, or Parcels
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  Speaker 1: did it when he came to the Patriots, or when
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  Speaker 1: he went to from here to the Jets. You take
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  Speaker 1: a few older guys, a handful that are right familiar
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  Speaker 1: with your system, that are circle the wagons guys, and
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  Speaker 1: we're keeping a few. And Paul's going crazy about that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he was also in a mood on Tuesday, was he Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Because I made him right. I made him right. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was you necessarily that he was upset.
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  Speaker 1: I think he just had a good show and he
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  Speaker 1: had energy and was reacting as as the fans are
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  Speaker 1: doing right now too, of you know, everybody getting up
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  Speaker 1: and on. But there is this exodus we're seeing, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people leaving and not being resigned and not
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  Speaker 1: being tendered, and people wonder what are the Patriots doing?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a rebuild total rebuild year or are they
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  Speaker 1: gearing up for a big move. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: the latter, you know, because because I think that would
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  Speaker 1: have happened already. You know. Well, but again we bring
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  Speaker 1: up the shack thing, like there there's seven million roughly
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  Speaker 1: of cap space that you would need to make a
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  Speaker 1: bigger move. By the way, the cap is crap, so
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: it's as well until it's don't have to say that
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  Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I'm not the proponent of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's Paul's thing, but but a lot of our fans
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  Speaker 1: have been saying it because they see who is it
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  Speaker 1: that just signed the bills? Well a million eight million
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  Speaker 1: in cap space and they signed von Miller and obviously
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  Speaker 1: they pushed it all to the future. What they give
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  Speaker 1: him fifty in the first three years or something, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: something like that. It's about forty I think, just under
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  Speaker 1: fifty million guarantee in the first three and then I
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  Speaker 1: think then it's kind of year to years. Right, you
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  Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, but there are consequences down
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  Speaker 1: the road for that, and there comes a time you
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  Speaker 1: can't kick the can anywhere at some point. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: always ways to manipulate, but that doesn't mean it's crap.
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  Speaker 1: Right to me, that's nuanced. It's just lazy. That's just lazy,
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  Speaker 1: and it comes back to bite you. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that that's what you know happened with Shaq Mason. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's at a certain time where you're working with a
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  Speaker 1: big money deal over a bunch of years, you can
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  Speaker 1: finagle stuff even if you go into the season not
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  Speaker 1: having in cap space. But you know, when it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to the league's about to start, you guys have
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  Speaker 1: three million in cap space. You're gonna need at least
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  Speaker 1: five to get through the draft and all that you're
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  Speaker 1: forced you have to do something. So that that's why
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  Speaker 1: you kind of saw it coming. But I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's about last year's free agent I mean last year,
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  Speaker 1: I did they did what one hundred and sixty three
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  Speaker 1: million guaranteed money last year? So far this year sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: so a tenth of what they gave out last year.
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  Speaker 1: But last year was a NFL record, was it not? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And that's I'm not going to set an ord's in
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  Speaker 1: perspective of I think what you know, because the cap
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  Speaker 1: is crap. I think it's about guaranteed money, and it's
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  Speaker 1: about how much of Robert Kraft's money are you now
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  Speaker 1: handing out. Devin mccordy be in the big one, which
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  Speaker 1: I think you know is we've discussed that plenty quead No.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna just gonna add to that like
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  Speaker 1: if they had done exactly what they did last year
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  Speaker 1: and they hadn't petered out the way they did at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the year. Like let's say they they
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  Speaker 1: won two of those final four games that they looked
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  Speaker 1: just atrocious in and even beaten the Bills somehow in
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  Speaker 1: that first playoff, or even if they didn't, even if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't beat them, but let's say they were competitive
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  Speaker 1: in that game. Because they were just not competitive at all,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the ownership who signs the checks looks at it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit differently this year, even though that there's
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  Speaker 1: limited there's limited space for them to you know, to
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  Speaker 1: work with anyway. But maybe he looks at it and says, well,
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  Speaker 1: I spent all that money and that's what you got me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look how we ended the seat like that
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  Speaker 1: left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth.
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  Speaker 1: If they had, if they had been a different outcome
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  Speaker 1: to the season last year, they might have been a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more willing to do something, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more creative with, you know, a von Miller type. So
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  Speaker 1: you think so Robert Kraft said, yeah, you spent your
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  Speaker 1: money last year, We're not doing it again. You know, well,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think it partially might have to do
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  Speaker 1: with how the season work, and you're saying that had
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  Speaker 1: they had been better, he would have said, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: more willing to do yeah, a little bit more. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to spend record numbers because they don't
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  Speaker 1: have that money to spend, but he might have been
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: more willing to try to take I hope not. I
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: hope that's not the case because because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: my owner, I don't care who it is making football decisions. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, he's got he's got the purse strings.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: But we're not talking about replicating what they did last year.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: But I would hate to think that if Bill came
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: in and said, hey, I think Khalil Matt can really
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: help this team. He's the one guy I want to
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: get this offseason, I would hate to say. I would
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: hate to think that. Robert Kraft said no, I would
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: hate that. I mean, I hear what they're saying, but
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I just think it's more about you invested all this
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: money into these guys. Let them have a second year.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: You know everybody wanted to just cut a smith. Let
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: them have another year. You spent the money. Iglore's off
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the books after this year if you hate him so
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: much and that there's nothing more to discuss with him.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think everybody deserves a chance. With
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the way that they built a team last year to
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: to to build off of what they did or didn't do.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I think there was so much focus on making sure
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: mac Jones was put in a position to succeed. I
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: think that comes at a cost, and it comes at
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the cost of you know, offensive complexity. You know, people talk, oh,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots offense is so you know complex. Not last year, Yeah,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: it was not. How many teams told us that it
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: was easy to defend the Patriots. That's not just because
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have a guy with a complex
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: route tree. It's because they were running a fairly simple
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: offense because they had a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I'm with you, dudes.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: You know, second year jump for these guys, especially when
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: their first year was with a rookie quarterback. So now
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: everybody's gonna take a second year jump, including the guys
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that you signed. So let's you know, right, and they're
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: out at some field somewhere probably right now throwing. You know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: some of those guys are I also think, though, and
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: it's going around right now. Bill Simmons tweeted out the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Patriots drafts from like fifteen to nineteen. It's pretty grim,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: as we all know. But I think it's also about
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: letting these young guys play. And you got to find
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: out with some of these and I'm hoping, and you've
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: been hoping for many you know, for all three years
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you've been here like can we can we can we
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: turn it over? We're gonna have to turn it over
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: at some point, High Tower of Collins vanois. Those guys
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: aren't going to play forever. They're not going to be
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: around if when Mac Jones is leading this team to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the you know, playoff runs and that kind of thing.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: So I think they have to give these guys a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: chance otherwise, if they just kind of toil, you go out,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: you sign a bunch of free agents, and now you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: push them, keep them down in the depth chart, you know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: as Paul's Fauna saying, you finally get a chance to
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: look at Ucha and his last year he plays well,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and then he's gone because you know that they don't
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: want to pay him. So I think it's those two things.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's about free agent development. I think it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: about the rookies and the young guys getting a chance
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to play. And I also think that they're waiting in
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the weeds and they're gonna make some signings that wow,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that's a good deal for that guy. Well you I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: think there's still those moves to come. They need to
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: sign a bunch of guys. It's not like this is it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You know, what's the sixty five. I mean, there's twenty
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: five more people are going to be on this roster
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: by the time you know, May rolls around, So do
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the math. They will be additions. But this is more
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots do it. And that's why it's so
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: surprising to see people just losing their minds, as if
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: last year wasn't the outlier, and it felt like everybody
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: acknowledged They're like, wow, this is crazy. Isn't this great?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You know? And it's like, well, this year, did you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: really think that that was the new way they were
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: going to do things? They went back to how they
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: do things. I think they had to. I think, you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: what Eric said is a little bit of it, But
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's just them managing. They gave out a
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: bunch of big deals last year. You got to see
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: who the good players are moving forward, and then next
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: year you got another big chump chunk of cap space
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to reallocate, refocus on who you want to build a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: team around and moving forward. Yeah, I think I'm with
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you there. However, um, you know, when you trade away
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Shaq Mason and you may not sign Trent Brown and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: your defense is sort of being gutted, you know, I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: think that you got to do something. It's not going
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to all come through the draft, you know. So, so
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I don't blame fans for wondering, Okay, what is the deal?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Are they just kind of and and I heard I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: see somebody use the word tanking. I wouldn't use that word,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But are they sort of just you know, letting this
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: year be what it is in order to build up,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you know, for the future. Yeah, I think people get
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the definition of the word rebuild. It doesn't happen overnight, right,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: So I think and I think people got a little
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: bit um, you know, false hope last year when they
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: had that seven game win streak and it looked like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: oh look back back already, back already, and that I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: remember us. That was funny though, But you know, these things,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it's called a rebuild for a reason. You have to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: do things that it's gonna cause some pain for a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: little while, and you might have to make some sacrifices.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And maybe they thought last year they weren't sure whether
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: or not they wanted to or not, which is why
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I think they brought back some guys like you know, uh,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Jamie Collins in the middle of the season, or made
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: some of the older guys play a little bit more
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because maybe they kind of felt like, oh, we are
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: we were kind of there, We're kind of in the mix,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: or you know, I think they were a little torn
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: internally about whether or not it was a complete teart
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to the studs thing, because they also went and signed
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: all these players. Well that's the thing, you know, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: know it was. It was a weird year. Yeah, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the cat went way down. You had a rookie quarterback
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: eighty because of COVID. Right, we were one of the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: few teams that had money. Right, So even if you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: went in and thought, oh, okay, twenty twenty one is
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be a tear it to the studies, then all
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you're presented with this opportunity, right, all right, well,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: let's do it. We can do that and still kind
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of go on that rebuild. Yeah, you know so, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you get a rookie quarterback, right who normally rookie quarterbacks
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: don't do anything for you in their first year, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: you have to start building around them. So the thing
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that concerns me right now is that we don't know
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: who the offensive coordinator is. We don't know who's going
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to be taking Mac under his wing as far as
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the coach goes quarterbacks coach or oh see what even
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: if they're both the same. We don't know what the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: offensive line is going to look like right now in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: terms of starting right We don't know who the offensive
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: line coaches. We don't know what the offensive line is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: gonna look like. This is a very important year for Mac,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: for any player going into their second year, but especially
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, a franchise quarterback. There's a lot of uncertainty
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: surrounding him, a lot more than I would be comfortable
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: with if I were, you know, in charge of this team.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: The protection protection, I mean, that's just the protection and developed,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: especially right up in the middle. You know, two new guards.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think, I mean, maybe this opens up
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a chance for him when you did it to play
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: right guard, which he really hasn't been able to do.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of put into the tuney
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: spot last year at left guard. But you know, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: think you feel good about that, you feel good about Andrews.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But I think you're right. There's questions and who's going
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to get these guys ready, and especially for a quick
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: passing quarterback like Mac, like up the middle, like you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: making sure that that he's secure and he trusts him.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about the offensive line. I think
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm probably more on Paul side of the street with like,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: if you've got to choose a position to turnover, right
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: guard will probably be the first one I would choose.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Nothing against Shack Mason, but but just remember how how
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: many times we gritted our teeth in the first half
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of last year watching Mac get clabbered, took some really
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: tough hits, and then things kind of settled down mid
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: season on they settled on A five. Those guys pretty
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: much played the rest of the season, and things were
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: better for him. He had more time. If you've got
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a situation like twenty fourteen, the beginning of twenty fourteen,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: when it was a different combination of offensive lineman week
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to week. That's not good, Bob, No, you don't want that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And if he's back there trying to you know, process
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: information and he's getting you know, pressure from all sides,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like he was in the first half of last year. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it's going to start his growth. But there's also I
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: think experienced four mac of identifying protections, knowing where when
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he has to get the ball out, just understanding. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: think that's an element. If there's no question having a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: good offensive line that plays well as part of it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But I think part of it too, will be Max's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: development understanding knowing where a bad line could make a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: quarterback look bad, but a quarterback could make his line
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: look bad too. A little bit of breaking news. A
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: little bit of breaking news. The Bills have parted ways
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: with Cole Beasley. Oh okay, he's unvaccinated. I don't want
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to We're over that. It's over. That doesn't matter anymore.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And no, seriously, the league has lifted all They've done
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: things just like most yeah, places around the country and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: around the world. Now we're starting to worry about that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: We still had a zoom with with Matthew Slayter this morning,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: which I'm not complaining about. We can keep those those
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: media failag those are that's for convenience sake, Like that's easy. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: people don't have to leave their houses, you know. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, Colbas Beasley, I like it interesting. Yes,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm interested. When did you bring Chris Berman joined the show? Um? No,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm into colesby Coles Beasley. Yeah, you know, for
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the right price again, just what we need. Yeah, you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: forget all those years you played for Dallas too, right,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: playing the year part of Paul. Yeah, that's all we need.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But is he the kind of like like he's obviously
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: a good receiver, and especially at that position that's that's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: really a prototypical slot receiver right there, Like is that
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the kind of player you would love to get from Mac? Yes,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: but as a rookie, you know, I'd rather get a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: young guy and let him develop. I just that that's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: what I want. I'd love to see two receivers in
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the draft, which probably won't happen, but you know, get
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: somebody on day two and get somebody on day three. Um,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you know, because I think those slot receivers are out there,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like Sky Moore is a guy that that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that everybody's kind of talking about with the Patriots. Sky's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the limb really fast, I hope. So two Wise um
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Uh and Uh and Phillips from UCLA who is like
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a little Wes Welker clone. So those are two like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: just pure slot guy day three. I'm not trying to
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: sell you on him being the number one that everybody wants.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But um but Metchi too on day day two. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: think that would be for me. I like him. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like him too. Get a macboo, you know, get maxim
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: booze guys that he I mean, Dante Scarneki has said it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: He needs a binkie. Yeah, you know, and maybe you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I think some of these guys developed, but I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: everybody will be better too, is you know, roles become
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: more defined and and you know you have guys pushing
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: guys at the bottom of the roster. So yeah, I'd
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: love to see that. I mean, I think they'll grab somebody,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: some veteran in uh in free agency at some point.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: But we'll see, all right. Eight five five five hundred
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is the a sticket hut Line web radio at patriot
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: dot Com. Is the email address Paul is uh. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: watched the Bryant game last night. They played Wagner and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: not Wagger. Uh was something State? Did that kid fight somebody? Yeah?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They played, didn't they? They played? I don't know anyway, anyway,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: they they they they blew it. Yeah yeah, Kiss had
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: hit a lot of points, but a lot of them
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: came late. They did a good job, kind of like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's their first time in the tournament. You know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: they got a little story. You know. I wanted them
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to win so that they could Yeah, right right State,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: right right, all right, all right, right. The Providence game
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is about to tip off, is it shortly? Okay? So
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I can watch them disappoint me in the first round.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: South Dakota State, who is over five all time in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. Don't win, don't win? Just my luck?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: All right? A five five pats five hundred is the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: ace ticket hot line. Let's open it up. We'll start
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: with Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey? So
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: looks how y'all doing today? Good? Good? Deuce? I love you, man,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I love you. How you are you calling for Julio
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Jones because I don't want him? No, no, I'm not
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: calling the Julio. I just joke. I juke it out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I want, I want Williams and I won't they a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: little slot receiving about the fourth round. But what I'm
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: mad about you? I mean, like I said, y'all praised
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you all the time. But my question is you can
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: play the propole guard. I know he has sixteen mills
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: on the camp for five for the fifth round draft pick.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: You can't get a second or a third that's gonna
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: hit about fifth round death? What special teams something like that?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You know, what were you special at? That's you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: stuff like that makes that makes you got your head.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That's why fans is getting a little bit of like
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a little little nod a little bit. I mean both
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: you frothing to help, but you signed eight thirty eight
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: thirty ye old and thinks that's gonna help. Where you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: see what anybody else doing around the league, besh, in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: your division and in the in the AFC, you know.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And then Paul mac like I said, like o't said earlier,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: office court dater, who's gonna help, who's gonna tutor? Who's what?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions. That's why we kind of frustrated,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Like and it's March. Three days in the free Edge,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: It's March. I know, I look, I know, I get it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. But do you know what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Right? Yeah, Yeah, they've hit on about six
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: draft picks in the last five years. Jack Mason was
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: one of them, and they extended him, one of the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: few to get it. And then and it hurts to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you know, move on from him, you know, But again,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: these are like moves that happened on I don't mind
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the moving on the parties. He still is prime sixteen,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: but you will give him the Brady and you get
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a fifth round, you can get a second or third.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's as I think that's what most people
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: are upset about. Yeah, I don't know if, like you say,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: he's in his prime, what is he like he's like
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: twenty nine, yeah, thirty, and he's a guard I mean
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a fifth round pick because the other team has to
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: now pay his salary. Yeah, yeah, you know, so I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: understand that too. That lowers the pick that he'll be
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: twenty nine in August. Yeah, so what I'm but he's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: still young, still a young player, right, he's Yeah, he's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: not ancient. They're about to forget what Harold looked right
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: on that right tackle when we played I think with
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Buffalo when he got knocked over and they got the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: map and then you know like he like man you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: did to get him off the field, where you get
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback kill a couple of plays. Everybody's forgetting about
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that because what I'm saying, you got back there to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: move up to the next that's what's we're in us. Yeah,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: me especially Yeah, Yeah and Mac. Then bad draft, Like
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I said, bad capital a Pro Bowl guard for a
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fifth rounder. Yeah, ridiculous, I'm sorry, but but but what
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: do we know about what they could have got? Like
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they got what they do? You think that they were like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: well the Rams will give us a second rounder, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: we want to go with the fifth. Like what they got?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: What they got? Like I think they had to. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: think they had to weigh O. I think Eldred's saying,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you should have not if you couldn't get a second
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: or a third, you shouldn't have traded him. Well, but
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think you have to. Well, but see here's what
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: we don't know. What was more important to them? Thanks
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Eldred getting compensation in a trade for Shack Mason or
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: clearing up Shack Mason's cap space. Clearly it was the money, right,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So I think they were willing to bite the bullet
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: on them. Okay, we can't get as much as we
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: want a compensation, but we really need to open up
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the cap space. So I think that's what they were
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: looking at. I mean, we're not at privy to the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the inner workings of the front office, but
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: when you look at it on its surface, oh yeah,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: especially when they had that gap in the fifth round,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: it almost seemed like they were like, we don't have
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a fifth round, or could you just give us a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: fifth for them? That would be fine, Yeah, because we
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: don't have a p we're gonna give you. Yeah. It's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: like a child, you know. I just I have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just say generally, Bill Belichick is like the gift to
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Boston Sports radio because no one else can, like, year
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: after year, do it his own way. He doesn't care
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: what anybody thinks, and like they just go apoplectic, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: every year after year it's like, oh gah, I believe
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. And it's like, do you guys realize
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: how much energy he's giving all of this media circus
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: in Boston because he doesn't care when he's gone, like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and I know people are like railing against Bill. He's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: he wants to win football games, like he wants to
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: win foot Like, don't try to call in like you
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: can tell me all the mistakes he's made. Great, nobody
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: wants to win football games more than he does. Well,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: last year it was all he cares about is Schula's record.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Well that means now this year is he's tearing it
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: down to the studs. He's tanking. Okay, now he doesn't
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: want to win football games. Yeah, like what you can
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: call me a Belichick honk all you want. I just
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: don't want it to be boring. I don't want to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: be one of the stupid teams that takes the chances
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and all you know that he goes off the beaten path.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's always interesting, and it just it fuels this whole
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: radio market where all season long, ninety percent of the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: time they're talking about the Patriots and Bill of checking aha,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: check why is he doing? But he just does it
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: his own way. Every year it's crazy and everyone's like
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and even and like, so at a certain point you
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: just sit back and you're like, huh, just enjoy the chaos,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Just watch it all burned. Going back to the point
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I was making earlier about how they were kind of
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: perhaps it looked like they were torn last year with
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: do we rebuild or do we try to make a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: run at the playoffs. Maybe the way it ended, maybe
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: maybe Bill realized, Okay, maybe we're not as close as
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I thought. Maybe it is time to go and choose
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: one one or the other, and it's maybe now it's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: time to start looking seriously at tearing some things down
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and starting over, which means getting rid of a guy
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: like Shack who makes a little bit more money than
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: you're comfortable with, clearing up space, hoping that some of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the guys you signed last year will take another step forward,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and acquiring more draft picks to try to build on
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the momentum you've got with last year's draft, getting three
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: guys at the top who were all significant contributors all year.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So you know, maybe the maybe the rebuild is happening
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a year later than people maybe first thought, but it's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it's it was bound to happen sooner or later. Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I just think last year there was an opportunity that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: not exactly, and they opened the door, right and did
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that maybe delay the complete rebuild a little bit. Yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: but now you've got you know, you've got Hunter Henry,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and you've got Kendrick Bourne and you know, and those
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: are you know, could be players for the next few years.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Match youot on. Yeah, we'll see, you know, And and
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: now we're hoping for second year jumps for you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Smith and war and if that happens, great, and hopefully
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: some of these younger players who haven't gotten a chance
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to play will step up yet, right, Yeah, I just
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I can't fault them. For Dante Hitier wanted to come
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: back after taking the COVID year off and saying, yeah, yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of course of course she would take him back. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: thank god Brandon Bolden came back, right, I mean what
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know and had a career gait for him. Going
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to see Josh, I dug up and the thing I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: wrote just a quote Josh had had during the season
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: about Bolden about just everything he does, how much he's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and it was like, wow, obvious, why why Josh took him? Um?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I think for me last year, the Van
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Noy move when they brought him back, that was the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: kind of little bit of a bummer to me, just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: because I felt like they had an opportunity to have
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a spot where a guy like Oocha or you know
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: with the time win of Itch or at the time Jennings,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you know, the young guys that you looked at last year,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that oh, there's an opportunity for them to work into
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: this rotation. Uh. And then I felt like when they
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: brought van Noy and then they doubled down with Collins,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: it just pushed all those guys further. Do you think
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that when Bill decided to bring van Noy back last year,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: he does it because he knows what he's got van Noy,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: But he also does it hoping that those guys you
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned beat him out. Maybe you know, I'm gonna bring
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in a known commodity and he's gonna, you know, have
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: his place in the depth chart to start, but hey
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: beat him out an then beat him? Yeah, man, they
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: didn't do it. Maybe I just I think too that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: we try to generally, we try to put it into
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like are they rebuilding? Are they And I think that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it just it's a microscopic decision on a case by
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: case basis. Where Kyle van Noy was available, he knows
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the system. Would he make us better? Yeah, potentially yes.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Could he be fading now and that's why Miami. Potentially Yes,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: But we feel like he has a chance to make
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: this team better. And I like, I don't think they
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: look at everything through this lens of like, well, this
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: year is a rebuild year, and we're going to do everything.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's case by case and trying to build.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: You know, I know that he's big on, you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: constructing a dynamic, having a balance of veterans and of
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: young guys. And I know that there's you know, probably
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a whole novel sitting somewhere in this building of his
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: philosophy on how to balance a team out between what
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you need and what you don't. I know it was, um,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you know, something that talked about a lot in Cleveland,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: how they established what the culture and what the you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: dynamic needs to be. So I know that he has
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: all these things in his mind, and you know, it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just hard day three into free agency and everyone's like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that's it. They're gonna win one game this year, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think the roster is anywhere close
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to what it's gonna look like in a week much
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: less six months from now? Yeah, all right, five five pats,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: five hundred. Let's go to William and Philham. What's up William?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: So that's how are you doing good? Hey? All right? Okay, Um,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to say. All right,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: thanks for calling? All right, but you had to call.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: It's like checking in with mom. Really are you reading well? Williams?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Did you get enough sleep last night? Man? And I look,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'm off work today and I've seen that move. I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, are you kidding me? Um, Mike, look,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: let me make sure how I say this right? Because
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I was seeming so bad. I had to calm down.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Just I listened to Mike just, you know, put days
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in perspective, bills for me as far as day. You know.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Bill allways his praises, but I will
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: always call him when he makes the mistakes. I'm sorry,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I can't hold his hand. I'm not going to you
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like, yes, he got a
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: six super bowsie he um, you know he's Bevan the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: team he did think. I mean, he did a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of great things. I'm never gonna take that from Bill.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But as a GM. I'm like, you cannot tell me.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna tell me that, Okay, Bill is like
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he calls it right on the money. No, he don't.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And this is this is a prime example of this,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the jac Jackson, the Gilmore situation. Even Calvin Noy beat
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: out Hot Tower and Jamie and Jamie Cohn. How did
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you cut him? But you don't want to cut Hot Tower?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Could you explain it to him? I mean, I'm not
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: trying to sit there and tell you that the guy
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is perfect. I don't think anybody's perfect, So I mean,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the draft misses have sucked.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's why they've struggled the last few years.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think that fed a lot into why break. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: don't I don't have a bar of perfection. I just
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I think that he's got a plan, he knows what
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he's doing. I'm not sitting here pulling my hair out
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at this point in the offseason thinking that, oh, he
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: just wants to win three games a year for the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: next fifteen years so that he can surpass Don Shula
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and that's all he really cares about. Like, I just
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't see it that way. I look,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I get the mistakes, I get the missus, I get
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like the head scratching decisions. I'm right with you, believe me,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I to kill Harry didn't get it? I don't. But
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what, I don't want
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: this to be over yet. You guys all blame us
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: for running Brady out there? Way do you want to,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Bim Bellett? You know what, It's gonna be liked, you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: like it's fine, like and I'm not getting mad that,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: like he gets criticism, like, it's fine, he can handle it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I just I just get mad when people try to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: tell me that he doesn't want to win, that he
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: isn't like completely invested in this and trying to put
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it together the best he can. And yeah, it's not perfect.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I get it. But well, Mike, wait a minute, so
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I had the thing sound you got Look, I actually
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: speak lound and words when people looking at what he's doing,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: does that tell you that he want to There's only
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: so much he can do right now with the financial
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: constraints that they're under. So yeah, so there's only so
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: much they can do. And you know what, for so
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: long there was certainty about this team. You had the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: best quarterback of all time, and as long as you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: had him and Bill together, you knew this team was
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: going to be competitive. When double digit games make it
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship, you could take that to the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: bank for a long time. For the first time these
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: past I'm gonna call this now the third season counting
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one, twenty two is certainly the most
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: uh questionable of the three so far. There's a lot
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of uncertainty around this team, and people are not used
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to that, and so that's where I think a lot
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of the fear is coming from. Because what do we
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: fear most as human beings the unknown. There's a lot
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: of unknown about this team. Writers, all, can I have
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: one one more question and then I'm out of the way. Yeah, yeah, Uh, Mike,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: this once were you again? Let's go how you doing?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: All right? He's calling all over and start this right
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: from the beginning. Um, the Nelson the agular thing you're saying,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: let's keep on it. He signed this contract, whatever, Let's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: see what he doing. His thing is? What second season? Whatever? Yeah? Um, dude,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: are you what are you expecting from a tween nuals
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: receiver that you know you ain't gonna get. I don't
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: know what you think he's going to do. I mean, honestly,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's a very intelligent man and everything.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I see how he talking and knowing the press conferences
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But when he wanted to field, I'm looking,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I I just don't. I don't know. I just think that,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: like I said, Bill made that mistake right there. I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: think I don't know. But what what what? Let me
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: ask you this, what were you based on his career?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: What were you expecting him to do last year? Nothing?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Not really honestly because of how he is. Nothing. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: just I just think Bill picked him on first. But
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: he did more than nothing. He contributed. He wasn't like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: he did. It's not like he went through the entire
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: season and didn't make a play. Who we're talking about, Yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, he wasn't nothing. I mean
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: he for his career. He had one spectacular year with
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the Raiders, which I think opened people's eyes to the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: potential for him. But he was your top paid receiver,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and he was your top receiver, sure right right. You
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: gave him a lot more money than probably he deserved,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: but you had money to spend and you wanted to
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: make a move, and people were excited at the time
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that you made moves, and he did what he normally
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: does in this league. So I think you have to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: temper your expectations when you look at a guy's career.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Jon Smith. He didn't do much more
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: than he has done throughout his career. Yeah, last year
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it looked clunky, but thanks William. Yeah, I'm fine to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: give them a chance, but you know, I'm not hitching
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: my wagon for the next five years to agglor like
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I think you him should be a competent NFL receiver
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this year. I hope, as you know Fred laid out,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: that Mac can take advantage of him maybe a little
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: bit more. We also watched plenty of training camp practices
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: where those guys made some plays there too that you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: not everybody saw. So you know, I just I think
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: they need a rookie to come in and work with Mac,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and I think those kind of guys will be the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: long term answer. But in the time being, for twenty
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: twenty two, I'll run it back with the guys in
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you and don't forget, and don't forget that they took
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: a receiver in the first round and it didn't work out,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and that sets you back, That sets back at that position.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It certainly didn't. You know, I've got you said that, friend,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: because it's it's it's enlightening when you go back and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you look at and and everybody remembers my love affair
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: with Philip door Set. But there's a guy who's a
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: four three first round guy. And I think that you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: look at the guys this year and there are a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: lot of four three first round guys that everyone is like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: can't miss. You know, just because you're fast and just
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: because you're you know, highly rated, coming out doesn't guarantee
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you of anything. So you know, I think they've got
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: to be smart. But I think you got to the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: realistically look at the league and say you need an
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: offense that can chug and go and put points on
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the board. And and they're still building, specially when other
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: teams in the AFC are built for speed and points
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and you need to keep up with the likes of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the Buffalos, the Kansas Cities, the Los Angeles is the
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati's teams that can put points on the board almost
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: at will. You're not there, You're not even close to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: be in there yet, yea. And one more thing, just
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to William's call, because that he brought up. I just
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: think that Bill has a philosophy and you might not
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: like his philosophy of football and how he builds football
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: teams and what he believes you need to have for
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: football teams to win. It might not match up with
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: your you know, vision of the number one receiver and
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the number one you know, but it's it has worked.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: And I know to a degree of yeah, Brady, Brady Brady,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: but he guys still knows what he's doing. And I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: think the thing for me with Bill Belichick is when
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you hear players talk about him, don't listen to the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: media talk about what Bill Belichick does or doesn't know.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Listen to the players and listen to how much football
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that he knows when they go in there and they
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: listen to him, Like that's that's the special stuff that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: happens behind the scenes. And I feel like everybody wants
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: who it's the greatest coach of all time. But let
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: me list off all the reasons why I hate him
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and want him to be gone, Like it's just it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't resign itself with
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: how the players actually feel about him, which I think
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: they all respect him, and you know, know that he
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: knows what's going on with the game and how to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: build a football team. Yeah, let's go to Todd in Greenville,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Todd. Hey, I'm not sure if
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Bill has decided whether he's fully given up on, you know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: having a good team or not. Because paying nine million
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: for d Mac, You've got a gotta wonder a little bit.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I would love, you know, keep some veterans, like you said, Fred,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you need veterans for the leadership and to kind of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: build you know, the patriot ideology. But I you know,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: it makes me wonder because that's a lot to play
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: for something like that, and to keep Slater as well.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: When you get some young guys that can replace him,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you need new leadership eventually, So maybe it's time to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: start maybe moving a little bit more. I kind of
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: agree with crazy Paul. Well, let's put it this way, Okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: So again we're talking about three players, Matthew Slater, mccordy
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and James White. You know, yeah, probably and that's a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: one year deal from Acquardy, right, He's probably gonna be
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: gone next year. Slide is probably gonna be gone next year,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you know, So why do you care? Why do you so?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: If you agree with Paul, then the cap is crap,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter how much they paid him, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you could have maybe kept somebody else. Gunner I would
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: have liked to keep just for a sentimental reason. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like him. But you know, I can understand why wouldn't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: they keep Gunner if the cap is crap? What? They
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: could have kept Gunner and they decided not to. They
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: could have kept Shaq Mason, they decided not to. What. Yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But my biggest problem right now is the situation is
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: we've always had trouble getting two things. Receivers and uh,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you know, high high draft corners. You know, the guys
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that we get that are not drafted are amazing. But
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: when we actually try to draft a corner or we
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: try to draft the receiver, it never works out. And
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: that's two of the biggest needs we have right now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It makes me a little confirt ye where I'm at?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Ye Okay, can't stop doing it though, Yeah, keep trying.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I see, I don't I agree with him. They've had
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: trouble drafting high, high ranking corners and receivers. But to me,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: keeping Devin mccordy' is a separate issue. I don't think
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they're related. I don't think that by getting mccordy it
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: prohibits you from drafting receiver. Well, you know, like that
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: ruined their whole offseason was ruined because they paid Devin
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: mccordy nine million dollars. Like, yeah, I don't get it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get it. I think you need
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: guys like that on the roster for leadership, and right
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: now they have three and and that's it. And so yeah,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and David would I would throw David Andrews into that too,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know, as one of the olds. That's a leader,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you know, a veteran leader. Absolutely, you know. But it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think there's always a balance to it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, everyone gets so fired u about
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, like he's a free safety plays on the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: back end. He gets everybody on the same page, Like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: it's not like you need him to win in trench
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: battles every week and he just doesn't have it anymore.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I know Paul wasn't impressed with him
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: last year. I didn't really notice all that much different
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: about the deep passing game, Like it didn't seem like
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: that was that was that much of an issue. Um,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: but I don't know people are latched onto this right
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: now when it's just become their only resigning old guys
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and like it's the three guys, right, three guys. It's
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: three guys and guys who have played a lot of
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of football for you. I would think that,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you know, you'd want that kind of continuation of the culture.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And that's what Matthew talked about. But he also acknowledged
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not just here to be a rab rock guy.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: They need me to produce on the field, and he
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: understands that. But I mean, I think another you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: they asked Slater Tuesday about you know what happened, uh
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: with what went wrong last year, and he spoke specifically
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to the special teams and um, you know, mentioned mentioned penalties,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: uh you know, mentioned the pun pump block team, which
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: we know it was an issue as well. But I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting looking at, you know, the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: special team snaps. I mean, it looks like they're going
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: to get rid of five of their their top special
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: team performance this year. Brandon King Brandon, Bolden, Gunner, Yakub
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and Chase one of it. I mean, those are five
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of your ten top ten Special teams guys, so you
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: know there is some turnover there, and those guys aren't
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: exactly Spring chickens. So they did let some old guys
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: go with that department, and I think that you know
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that's where you're going to see some change and some turnover. Yep. Uh,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: let's turn it over to Brian in Indiana. What's up, Brian?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Bo blah? Boy, where's Paul when we need you? Oh?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Here we go, Yeah, here we go, you know. And
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: of course, boy, hey Fred, I'm gonna get you this. Yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: hiring dudes, you dig dudes. He got he bringing it
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: out and me boy just got through jumping down throw
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: for saying nine million for McCarthy. What do you care?
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Is it? Joe money? Okay, keep that same energy. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: gonna ever want to hear you criticize a contract again,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: because I've heard you do it. We all do it. Yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: And then uh, y'all got to keep my own duce
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: because he's say it's all about the Lindry. But I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: don't know when Bill ain't the coach no more? He
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: might switch teams. Would you be happy about you'd be
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: happy to have another team? Get him? I say, when
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Bill ain't the coaching team? Yeah no, I just I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: appreciate good coaching and I understand what that means, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I like watching it, and I'm in no hurry to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: jump off. I like, yeah, let him see. How are
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you forever New England? Right for hashtag? Now I got
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I got one though, And this is a Boston another
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Boston media trigger. And of course it came out of
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Duce's mouth. You mentioned some time ago, uh, you don't
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: want to be one of these stupid teams that take chances?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Can you uh dalve into that and tell me who
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: these stupid teams are and the chances they took, because
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I wish Paul was here to back me up. You
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: you criticized La Fall, the moves they made, you mocked them,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: dream team, blah blah blah. They went on to win
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So that's one case. Philly, Philly was
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: one that me some of the stupid teams to take
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: these chances you're talking about that you don't want us
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: to take. Yeah, sure, they call that the teams that
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: call in and we need to pay Julio Jones fourteen
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: million and give up a second round pick for him,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: you know, at age thirty three, those you know, those
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: kind of moves that that that seems the media things
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: they know how to run. Really, people people emailing you
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: saying that, oh yeah, do you listen to the shows.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Nobody won't I wanted Julio Jones, Yeah, five years ago
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: when I knew it wouldn't happen, right me too. Well,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: all right, just take any old receiver who used to
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: be good, and that's what you got. Seriously, now, anybody's
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: asking for all receivers that we were crying about them
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: resigning old vets. So the whole receivership is said. Maybe
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, and he's not as young as people think
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: he is. He'd been in the league quite a while,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: but he's gotten more left in the tank at this
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: point in his career than Julio Jones. I haven't heard
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: anybody really asking for all receivers. Not means at this
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: point Julio Jones is done. Yeah, I agree, I agree,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: but hey, this is the show. We call people calling
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: all the time talking about old receivers, receivers that they
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: missed on, like that for the majority of people who
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: just general fans, they think that's the way that that
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you just need a number one receiver. If you have that,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you're going to be good to go. So you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, I think what you're taking from what I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: said earlier of just the teams that do it traditionally,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the teams that do what you want, like you know,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll make you happy. I don't know a lot
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: of people called what the Bills did yesterday with von
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Miller dumb, like that was a dumb move because of
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the amount of money. Yeah, because the amount of money
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: that they have, they wouldn't call it dumb. If Bill
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: signed him. And I'm gonna tell you why Bill could
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: have signed him, took that same exact contract. What people
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: would say would his how New England would justify it?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Oh well, one hundred and twenty million, don't worry about that,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: look at the look at the guaranteed money, and we
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: would kick the can down the road. He ain't gonna
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: see all six years in that one twenty. If we
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: could get two three years out of him, that's good.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Then that's exactly what people fred. That's what you would say,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and that's what the Bills are problem. I think it's
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: a good move. I'm all for it. I'm all for
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that move for the Bills where the Bills are right now.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Ye you got Josh Allen. You've got lightning in a bottle,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: right and it's a small window you now have. Get
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: me wrong, A guy that didn't think, God, I didn't
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: think we would sign Vin Miller. Damn sure didn't want
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: him in Buffalo. But I mean, we weren't gonna sign
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: him to block that. But my thing is just and
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I y'all think I'll rag on Bill, and I try
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: not to say nothing because I don't like I don't
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you know me and do disagree all the time. But
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I like ducing on, like hurting his feelings. I love it.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know, Yeah, I just I mean, look,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I think this is a different, different football team for
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the Patriots where they are right now. And I don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: think that they're the old Patriots. And I think that
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they need to do a lot of work and they
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: need to hit on a lot of draft picks to
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: get where they are. We can disagree about how to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm just fine to sit back and watch
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick do it and drive people nuts and see
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: what he does that and that's and I'll let him
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: do it until he wants to go, and then I'll
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: be sad. Traditionally, like the you know, and what Brian
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: said about the Rams, that worked out. They went for it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: They worked out what the Tampa Bay did two years ago.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You know, they went for it. It worked out right.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: But but tradition, dud dudes kind of did he mocked him.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: He didn't say I was stupid. I don't know. I
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: don't think I mocked him. That's why I said, I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: wish Paul y'all don't realize something about y'all being on
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the regular. We hear all the stuff y'all mother under
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: your breath. Yeah, because there was this was at the time.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Oh von Miller. We got to now our dream team. Man,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I got work out because, in my opinion, Vin Miller
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: won them that Super Bowl the last minute of the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: last quarter of game. Yeah. Yeah. And you know the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots have done that in the past, bringing in Derel
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Rievers and you know, for one year and it worked
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: out and it worked out. Yeah, We've we've tried that
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: in the past. James Harrison, James Harrison. Yeah, the hope
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: was that he could have did with Vin and that
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: what Super Bowl did he play against the Eagles? Yeah,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that it plays Vin Miller. May is what we need
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: to James Harrison to do right now. And it didn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: work out. Though it didn't work out, but you know
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the play we need. There's there's plenty of there's plenty
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of examples both ways. And there's plenty of examples when teams,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you know, pay that high pricing and it doesn't work out,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's just you know, so it goes
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: both ways. And the Rams are in streaming. That's extreme.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, nobody, nobody's done that. And I mean I
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: think on this, I know, I was like, oh, I
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: think that's a good move bringing in Matthew Stafford. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: thought that was a great move for them. Oh who
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: didn't you know that was a good move. Yeah. I mean,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I I'll let that stuff go. But I mean, I
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: think there's more than one way the skin of ks
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Brian and I don't you know, I don't think the
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Patriots way is the only way. I don't think the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Rams way is the only way. Of course, not teams,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: different teams win the Super Bowl every year. It's not
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: it's not like a chemistry project. It is, but it's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: human chemistry, you know. And so like you can bring
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: in all the great players you want, if it just
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't work right on the field, it's just not gonna
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: work because they're human beings. You can't you can't automatically
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: say it's gonna work out. There's so many you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: different things. And that's what Robert Kraft said when he
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: first bought the Patriots, you know, and what he said
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of new owners to the NFL learn. You know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you're in your old business where you can control your
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: budget and your you know, your workflow and all this stuff,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and your supply chain and and you know, in football,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: you know your supply chain is fifty three guys that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: all have different personalities, and you have no idea how
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: each year is gonna work out. You don't know how
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: these draft picks are gonna work out. That's what makes
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: it more difficult than normal business that these owners come from,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you know. So but it's it's good stuff. And yeah,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: you do defend your own team's moves more than other teams.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: You want your other other teams to fail it. You
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to believe that your team has a special sauce
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and that it didn't quite work out somewhere else that
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: will work out here. And the way those teams fail
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: is they make bad decisions and it doesn't work out,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: or they make good decisions and it still doesn't work out.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It's a risk. John's in LA. What's up, John? How
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you doing good? How are you guys doing great? Hey? John? So,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I mean this is sort of a snarky Patriots fan
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: thing to say, but I mean, I think the Patriots
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: have shown that there's just because the Rams one a
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: super Bowl by doing it that way, that's great. There
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: are many different ways it's gonnacatch. But I wouldn't put
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: down the way the Patriots have done it for twenty years.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: What I would put down is that, like remember back
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: in the days, like when we were all posting on
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: pap fans dot com. It was the early days of
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the Patriots dynasty, and and the Patriots did drafting differently
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: from the other teams that use those sort of services,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: and we sort of I felt like we did better
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that way. My feeling is over the last twenty years,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: the sort of draft industrial complex has gotten better. There's
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: all of these draft sites. There's all these like professional scouts,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and some of them are crappy, but some of them
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: are good. And I feel like these days, going with
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: what we read online makes more sense than it used
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to back in the day before scouting became more of
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: a commodity. And so I feel like last year when
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the team sort of made picks that sort of went
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: with the conventional wisdom and what we were seeing online,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: it was a good draft. Do you think that the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: change in like the the increasing widespread expertise is too strong,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: But you know, like that becomes something that there's more
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: people involved with who are smarter at it than maybe
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: back in the day, in the early days. I yeah,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: now when we read something online, it's like no, no, no,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: that's actually good research them. There's more people going at
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: it because the products has gotten better. Yeah, no, I agree,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the science of scouting has gotten better. Um, it's not
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: just an old guy with a stopwatch anymore. You know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: The dissemination of information, the exchange of information technologies, you
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: know us have all helped scouts evalue way players more accurately.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I just wonder where the line is still
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: because I still think that there's a firm line between acts,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: NFL teams and draft services, draft websites, those you know,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: like those kind of things. I don't know how much
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: crossover there is, Like I don't think the Patriots are
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: like consulting Pro Football Focus for their scouting needs. Like
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but you know, I still wonder
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: what the line is like. And I agree, like the
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: proliferation of everyone's a draft expert and there's a thousand
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: mock drafts now where like you used to have to
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: wait for like a select three to come out. Yeah,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's I mean, it's an interesting point.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I mean I also see John like do we all
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: think we're all experts now? And that's why it's easier
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to second guess because we think we have the information
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: when I just wonder how how much reality there is?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: What is what is a you know? Like I mean
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and I go to all these websites like, uh, you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Draft Network and you know, PFF, all those ones, But
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I just wonder how similar are those what the real
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: guys actually have, Like is there is are there really
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: is that? Really? Are they really even in the same vicinity? Well,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: don't look when I talk about information I'm not talking
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: about our lads and Pete. I'm talking about how they
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: are able to get like you know, there's um they
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: call it exos, yeah, you know, but there's way the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: tape is eating more readily available on players. The databases
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: are more sophisticated. And sure I'm talking about that type
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: of thing, right, you know, but they are they all.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Is it possible as scouts are talking more to these
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: people or that, or the former scouts are now of
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: those websites or something so that there's actually more more
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: sophistication than there used to be. Well, I think it's certainly, certainly, John,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Like when we were when we were growing up, there
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: was like mel Kiper was the one and only draft
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: person on earth who spent like three hundred and sixty
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: five days of the year studying the draft. Some who
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't part of an NFL organization. He was the He
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: had his own you know, cottage industry doing that. And
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: then people as the draft started becoming more popular, more
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: people started doing it. And some of these you know,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: guys like Dan Jeremiah, who I think was a scouting
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: role at one point, Mike Mayock who played like guys
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: who played and think they can do it well, started
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: doing it, and some of them, Uh, what's his name
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: from ESPN? No, Uh, he did Monday Night Football. Why
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: am I not being able to think of his name?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Just this past year? What's his name? It was up
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: for the GM job. Yeah, I can't think of his
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: name off the top of my head. But like you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: he worked in in scouting, in personnel, went to broadcasting,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: maybe was thinking about going back into it, like some
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: of these guys have that experience. But I don't think
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you can call any of these people draft experts because
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: nobody is an expert at drafting. Not even the people
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: who do it for a living are experts, because if
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: they were, they'd be paying millions of dollars for their
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: services every year. The draft is such an inexact thing,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: even for the people whose job it is to do
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: it for an NFL team never get it right, perfectly right.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: You hit some years, you don't other years. You hit
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: with one guy in one round, you don't in another.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: It's such an inexact thing that it's it's almost impossible
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to call anybody a draft expert. Yeah. Another thing I've
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: noticed over the same period of time is that back
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: in the day, like the first half of the dynasty,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: it seems like Belichick was so in the front office,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: was so painstaking about like they would get such value
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: in the trade. I'm not every trade wasn't perfect, but
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: so often it seems like they worked their asses off
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: to get an unbelievable value in draft pick compensation for
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: a player or vice versa. And it does seem over
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the last ten years. And I really think of Jimmy
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: G thing, but I also think of like, certainly the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Mason thing obviously, is you know, in the last few days,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: there's this attitude that feels less like, less effort, like
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  Speaker 1: you think there will be a quarterback? Take it in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: the first round? This? Yeah? Oh, they'll be like three
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: of them real right now. I mean, if you if
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: you believe any of the mock drafts and take all
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: those with as many greens as salt as you like.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: But I'm seeing sometimes it's even four quarterbacks going in
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: the first round. It's it seems ridiculous. Well that would
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: be great because that's good for the Patriots. Well sure,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if these teams are just gonna
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: reach for some of these guys. You don't see I
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: heard it. It's not a very good draft a quarters,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: I know, but are teams that there's always teams that
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: need quarterbacks and they always overreach. I think someone will
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: take a shot on Malik Willis. M I saw him
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: going sixth overall or something, probably a little high. But
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: him and him and Kenny two gloves pick it um,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: small hands and all. But I think those two guys
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: would probably go someone will take a take a shot
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: on him. But a flyer A flyer um because if
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: you don't get them, then you know you gotta you
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: gotta take a swing. I guess it's but I wouldn't.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't draft any of those guys before twenty at best.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: But I think they'll go in the team. I think
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: there are teams that are gonna reach yeah see I
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: and that'll that You're right, it'll help New England because
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: a better player will drop down. I mean I think
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Willis is a you know, got a lot of physical talent.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: And I mean anybody saw the video. There's video of
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: him in Indie, right outside of Saint Elmo stopping and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: like unloading a bag for a homeless guy and giving
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: him a bunch of stuff, which was, you know, cool
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: to see. So who is this Malik Willis? Oh? Yeah,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: because it was funny. It was like right in front
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: of Saint Elmos. It's like such oh, there's that old sign.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so that was cool to see. I mean,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I think he's just one of those guys that intangibles
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, has it, has it, has it? Definitely
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: a strong arm too. Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up? Rashad? Hey,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? I had two things, I guess. First, First,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: on the staff, the offensive line. Um, I'm thinking, I'm
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: thinking it's gonna be it's gonna be a big issue
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Niven this year. It's going forward, because what are you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: gonna do with when Like, I don't think they're gonna
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: pick up his fifty year option. I don't think, yeah,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: this is the fifth Yeah, this last year, they last
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: spring they did, but like even like next year, and like,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna sign him and keep them.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: So that just means we're gonna have another opening on
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. Wow, let's get through this year first,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Let's see what they do this year. Yeah, but I'm
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: worried about twenty twenty three yet, I think left tackles
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: a spot to watch. That's why Bernard Reisman, Yeah, forgive
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: my Austrian um, but I think the left tackle absolutely,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: I mean that's not something that's going to be sexy
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: and exciting. But like you said, wins up, you don't
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: know who's the right tackles. We're hearing that somebody Matt
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Morrel is not back there yet cratching record right, And
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I guess I can. I think I think that we
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: I think that we have to we have to be
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: able to uh like it has to be some type
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: of accountability, like with the Patriots, the front office build,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: like even Robert Craft, like it has to be some
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: type of accountability. And I know, I know that, you know,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: they're still like, you know, when when when Now we're
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: trying to win, you know, we're trying to compete. But
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: it's I mean, like maybe it's like maybe you like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: you don't like you don't have to try some people championship.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Just try to just build your young core, builds around
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: your quarterback and then you can compete the yeah and that.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: But it's like the way they're going about it now,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: like you're not we're not we're not going to get there,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: We're not can't get nowhere. So it's like, I don't know,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: do you think if they signed like three or four
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: guys in the next week that you're that your opinion
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: might change. It depends. It depends who the players all
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: and maybe the aide stuff like that, because I don't
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: want like, I don't want to old people. I want
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: im an like that, but I want to I want
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: a nice young athletic team. I mean, it's good, it's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: good to have some old bat like, it's good to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: have some some back three of them the people around.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: But like it's just it's just the way the league is.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: The league is changing, and I'm with you. I'm with
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: your shot. I'm like, like the way the way the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going twenty years from down, the way we
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: talk about Cowboys and the Cowboys fans think when we're
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: talking about us, and we're living in the past. So
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying, like, let's let's do something we you know,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: we we you know, we can do something now side
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: like yeah, we were good back and we were good
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: la la la. Yeah. I don't want to be that.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm with you there, R Shot. I do not want
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: to be accused of living in the past, you know,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: like we make fun of other teams sometimes, so I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: don't Speeds and friends, Now, what's up? Speed under your breath? Yeah, yo. Uh,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: you can really stretch out today, Paul getting in your way. Yeah,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I know, it's a I'm flexing a little bit now.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Now it's good. It's fun. Uh, Paul's great. I mean,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think i'd say anything I wouldn't say with
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: him here, so he'd just be yelling at me. Yeah,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: interjected I wouldn't be able to get it all out.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: You're still miliar. You say you're supposed to make fun
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: of the guy who's not there, like there's more oxygen
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: in the room because the big No. Because no, because
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: then Matmorrel goes through and picks them at all, all
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: the specific moments that everything you say about him, and
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: then it's in the open next week and then he's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: staring dagger said, are you afraid of Paul? No? Mat
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Morrell's cleverly edited opens that uh um. Under the the resigning,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I know, I know it's just three guys. I'm not
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: over reacting to McCarthy James White's later thing. I don't
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: mind the specific resignings, but my concern is kind of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: like the broader patterns Bill running it back with older
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: guys not leading into the young guys. It's kind of
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: like the Paul Fred argument. Um, I just think God
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: has a tendency to play favorites with old leaders, with
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: special teams guys, you know, pass things up with the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Van Noy or column instead of rolling the dice with
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: the young players. I said that last year's speed do
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: you remember? Do you remember when I made that exact
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: point and used that exact phraseology and Fred got mad
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: at me. I know, but what what if? What if?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: You know? They brought in van Noy and brought back
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: high Tower, and they were hoping that these other guys
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: would beat him out and they just didn't do it,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: or maybe he just was stubborn and said, these are
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: my guys, and these are the ones I can win
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: with because I know they've done it before, and the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: younger guys gonna have to wait. I and they were
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: winning seven games in a row and they said, oh who,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: it's working and all of sudden reality here. And that's
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: a maybe. But like, I just gotta believe if Josh
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Huchet was that good, he'd have been playing more. He
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: just never showed it. I mean, you can't believe. I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta believe what my eyes are showing me.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: And it's he's what it looks like. But Fred refuses
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: to believe that Bill can make an I just think
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: it's I just think it's I didn't I didn't look
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: at the old slow Patriots and thought Devin mccordy, I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: thought the linebackers were the problem. They haven't brought back
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: the linebackers. They're not running it back with the linebackers
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: right now. So like I just I don't think it's
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: totally apples. But we had a big argument about it.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: We come last year, two young running backs, right, You've
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: got a safety you just drafted and another one that's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: still in his twenties that you just extended. Like, those
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: aren't positions where I felt like we're old and slow.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: The positions were they're old and slow, they're not running
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: it back. They're they're not you know, if not this year,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: if they resigned high Tower and van Noy Collins right now,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: I would be on on the side of everybody who's
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: calling in saying the old and by the way, so
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: would I. You know, it's but I just don't think
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: I think those positions are They're fine for what they are.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: James why, I mean, he's he's got a contract. That's
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: you got to prove it, like it's I know. I
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: just think if if you, if you think back to
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the big plays that they gave up in the passing
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: game last year, Devin mccordy was involved in a lot
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: of those, and I think, and I think that's what
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: people I think that's what people are remembering most when
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: they see that he was brought back this year, they're thinking, like, well,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: he was one of the problems. I'm Mike. At the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: same time, I do agree it's still earliest. Only March
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: will wait and see. I'm just reacting to what I'm
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: seeing you respondings now, and I'm like biting my nails.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Thing is are we going to go back there? And
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's reasonable to be concerned about it, that's all. Yeah, Well,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the fun of it is what
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: direction is it going every year? But again, there's gonna
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: be twenty five more guys on the roster, so you know,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be random dudes left and right. It's
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna be some players that still come in.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: But I get you, like this is this is the
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: fun of this show and why I mean, Jordan Richards
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: are still available, right. I don't know. I don't think
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: they have the face I said to Paul yesterday, when
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: are we signing Corn Robinson? It's like, we probably will.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: That's a good name. I remember that. All right? Thanks
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: be Uh. Somebody named Megan's on the line. What's up?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: MB are we doing? How you doing, Megan? You wonder what? Um?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I'm great? Today is probably one of the best days
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: the year. I'm sure Paul um is not paying attention
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: at all because it's not even here, always paying attention
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to the basket. He took to day off and the couch.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean good, he should because it's his
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: day with basketball, and then it's Saint Patrick's day too,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: which just makes the day even better. And I know
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: you guys got to talk about free agency, but march manness,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: these next two days, they're really great there. It's good.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: It's four days really yeah. Yeah. And we got into
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: it the other day, Megan, because Fred and I believe
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: like the tournament is like sixty four teams, Like we
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: know that there's the four like early round playing games
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: or whatever like, but to us, it's the tournament when
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: you have sixty four And Paul was getting all mad
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: at us, like, no, they have playing games that means
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: they're in and we're like they're called they're not They're
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: not in, right anyway, I agree with you guys, it's
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: not real like yesterday course a warm up. It was
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: an warm up exactly. Yeah. The tournament starts on Thursday.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: But Megan, I feel like I'm talking to a celebrity
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: here because you know, I'm following you on Twitter and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I see all this stuff you're doing, shots, fancy, all
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: the stuff you're doing, and uh, it's it's unbelievable. How
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: are you you know? Are you having fun? Oh? I'm
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: having a blast. I mean I did not expect this
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: at all when I went from my audition. I mean,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: they glammed me up, but I really didn't expect that
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: it would be quite like this. But I'm having so
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: much fun. I mean it's different. I miss football a lot,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: but I mean every time I go to work, I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: have a lot of fun and the people I work
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: with are great. The travel is a lot, Like I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: go every single week to the airport. Um today I'm
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: flying to Charlotte, so that's been a lot. But I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: mean I'm young. What else do I have to do.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: It's cool. They don't have a charter for all you
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: are you guys, I'm no, that was a serious question.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know how. You guys A
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: lot of people that go to those things, So there
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: are a lot of people that go on our trips.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: We all live in different parts of the country, so
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: everyone lives everywhere. Oh so they're not and not everyone's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: based in Orlando. No, And they moved me here at
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the beginning so I could kind of like learn there's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: a facility down here. And they actually told me I
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: can live wherever I want. Now we'll see where I
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: end up. Well that's cool. Well, Megan, I gotta tell
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: you we on Tuesday show we went two hours and
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: didn't mention Tom Brady his unretirement at all. And I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: know you have strong thoughts about it, so do you
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: want to try and end? How did you not mention it?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: We totally forgot just what the Patriots are doing, and
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: we just totally forgot about Tom Brady. We talked about
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: it in the off us upstairs, and I think that
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: was like psychologically we thought, okay, we talked about it,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: but it never just never came out you guys are
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: the reason he keeps doing it unimportant. Well, as Chris
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Ferrera told us this morning, we should have said, well, Tom,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: you didn't mention us either, So there you go. I
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: just I mean, I know, Patriots man's get really mad
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: at me, like Martha's a gate lady. He blocked me
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, absolutely insane. But we all know I'm not.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not a Brady person. I was a Brady prison
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: when he was with the Patriots. But he's not the same, right, Fred,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: can't even you agree he's changed. Yeah, I have a
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: stain that. Yeah, Fred's dealing with cleaning his high pin. No,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Megan, Like I love Tom, I
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: still love Tom. But this whole coming back is not
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: a good look. Well, the whole retiring in the first
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: place just had a weird awkwardness to it, Like it's
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: like I just kind of forced into it. The whole
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: thing is just ridiculous. My fear several years ago, I
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: said when Brett Favre was doing his thing with like
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: flirting with coming back in retirement, and that wasn't a
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: good look. That wasn't a good look. And my fear
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: at the time, and I said it on the show,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: was I hope Brady doesn't end up like that and
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: here we are. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean I guess
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: the difference is he's still great. Yeah, I mean, I
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: know he's going to come back and still play unbelievable
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: and I respect him. That's what people are like, Oh,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: you're such a hater. He's the best ever. I'm like,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: no argument, he's the best ever. I'm just so annoyed
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: with his poet. Yeah. I didn't like that either. I
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: have to admit. Yeah, it's poor to me, it's poor
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, well maybe you guys doing. Are the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots going to make a big move here? I mean
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: they just made one made a move. Breaking news by baby.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: The Patriots have signed running back Time Montgomery. Oh I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: know him, Bay Journeyman, Yeah, Green Bay, Baltimore Jets. Okay, details, money, details,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: it's a move. It's not a big no, it's a
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: move two year deal where it's up to four million
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: backs in the league. Yeah yeah, yeah, so James right
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: time Montgomery. Okay, so you've got your core, You've got
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: your committee that you normally have. Yeah, just turned twenty nine,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Thank god, thank god. He's nothing dreaded thirty. Um, So,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: who's that one guy that you do a lot of
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: stuff on Twitter with Megan? He's always he's the guy,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: he's the wrestler who he's like paranoid. He always thinks
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: that he's not getting the credit he deserves. Who is he? Sammy? Yeah?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I love him. He's great too. He is so funny,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: so funny. Do you see what's going on right now
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: with him and Johnny Knoxville. No, so Johnny Knoxville obviously
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: from Jackass. Ye have a feud right now and the
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: two of them are going back and forth. And Johnny
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Knoxville put his phone number out through LA and PMD
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: picked it up. So now he's been ringing off the hook.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: But they're going to have a match at WrestleMania. Oh
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: he And so he's gonna kick the ass of Johnny Knoxville. Yeah,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: wow hopefully. Yeah, that's Megan. Have you hit anybody with
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: a chair yet or no, been hit with a chair?
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I have not, but I've had to dodge them. Oh really. Wow.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Well I'll be interviewing and then somebody will come to
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: go somebody and I run out of the way. Wow,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: that's your mark to jump out of the Megan jumps
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: out of the way. Oh that's good stuff. So, uh,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: you're still doing Friday Night Raw. Right. He's given us
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: the look like I just did something. There was that funny.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: So we're in a couple of weeks here. Oh yeah,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: what's that? Are you gonna be there? You're gonna be there?
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's there? Maybe we should have a company
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: trip there. Yeah, then we can dodge some chairs to Yeah,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: I invited Paul. You said he has no interest, no interest, fault,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: no interest. I'll pass. If it was like a Division
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: three basketball game, he'd be like, I'm going yeah, yeah,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: all right, Well, well when's the day of that. Um,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: it's actually the week of the Boston Marathon, so it's
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: April fifteenth. Okay, all right, I'll be in La Bib Sorry,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: oh oh you will, wow, La Mike. That's right. Well,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll think about it. We'll think about it. Yeah,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: very well. Maybe i'll stop by the office Thursday. But
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm a little nervous because Martha blocked me,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: so I think she might just not let me. I'll
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: just go into the just go into the parking lot
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: before we'll let's try e too. I don't have to
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: go through the gate. Maybe I'll have a wrestling match
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: with her. Oh pay per view? Yea, Megan, I just
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: real quick, I got I've gotten stuck behind a car
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: at the gate and Martha's like leaning over, like like
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: laughing into the car and as Mac mac Jones and
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: like holding the whole process. Apple, Come on, I gotta
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: get to work. I'm a big Macdones fan. You guys, okay,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: good are you? Yeah? So you're the mac Jones is
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: the future of the New England Patriots right, um, No,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of him. I mean I wish
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: we would be doing some more stuff right now. But hey,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: and and by the way, you can be good. Keep
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: up the lock of the week. I know a lot
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: of people who made a ton of money betting against
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: you last year, so that was great. Okay, Yeah, I'm
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: going to keep doing it. I actually did one yesterday
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: for March Madness. I had Peter Kiss the over on
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: points and it hit soh okay because he had ended
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: up with what twenty seven or something like that, Yeah,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: twenty eight and twenty five and a half. Nice, there
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: you go, good, good one. Yeah. Calvin Ridley and I
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: were using the same app to bet, and I thought
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I shut it down because I bet Detroit Mercy, but
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: it turns out it was Calen Ridley. So when the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: w E you're allowed to bet? There's no yeah, you know,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I can't bet on WWE. Wow, it's fixed
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: you right? Yeah? That really would be insider trading. It's fixed?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Is there gambling? Yeah? All right, Megan, thanks for checking
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: in on on Saint Patrick's day. Appreciate it. Oh, thank
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: you very much at all right at the Worcester all right,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: all right, see you later, Megan. All right, by guys. Bye.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: I think Martha asked listens to the show, Yeah, Meghan, O'Brien,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Morant and Connolly. Yeah, a lot of names Irish through
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: and through. Well, we saw her tweeting today about how
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: excited she was for the day, and I said, Grahama
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Gallagher should call in, and Paul even chimed in from
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: his couch. Yeah did he. I think that's why she
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: thought he was here. But so time at Montgomery Okay, yeah? Perfect?
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Probably Brandon Bolden, yeah right, older, backup. Seems like he's
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: played running back, wide receiver, tight end, kind of everything.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: A little bit of that too, didn't sow them. I
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: mean they got a type right, Yeah, that's what the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: more you can do, you can wasn't he um trying
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: to think now, green Bay. He had a good one
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: good season with Green Bay where he did a lot
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: of different things for them in a pinch because there
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: were a lot of injuries. Yeah, and he came out
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: and really kind of helped them signed the same way
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: that Bolden helped us last year. You're You're dead. On
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: his second year, he had you know, seventy seven carries,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: four and fifty four fifty seven rushing yards, three rushing touchdowns,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: forty four catches, three hundred and forty eight yards. Yeah
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: he did uh yeah that year that was twenty sixteen
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: eight eight hundred and six, eight hundred and five totally
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. So it was I mean, yeah, they
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: needed it because most there were injuries that year. But
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: he's part of a committee. He's not like coming in
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: planting real real spotty Harris or the last couple of years,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: there's not there's not a lot there to They like
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: to have their stable of running backs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: I always feel like they over kind of overstocked it
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, he's he's the Bolden and they'll
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: probably draft they'll probably draft around and some people will
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, this is the answer. No,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: this isn't the answer. This was an opportunity. He was available.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: They like what he's done in the past, they think
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: he can fit in and you know, and probably some roles,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: and so they sign him. It's this, No, this isn't
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: the answer. Don't don't worry about that. A couple of
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: years contract too, seems pretty manageable. So I can just
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: hear them your radio right now. How much money? I
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: think four mil up to four mil so total, so
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: not much. I don't I don't know if that's too
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: much for people. But uh, let's get to some of
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: the emails at web radio or Patriots dot com. So
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: one of the Perillo seven has gone with Bolden to
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. There's one bee out of Paul's bonnet. Other
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: branches of Belichick's tree have tried to transplant the Patriot
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: way by signing former Patriots, but it hasn't resulted in
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: the Patriots level of success. Do you think this is
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: McDaniels trying to import the culture or does he actually
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: have a role on the field for good old Bolden.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean a little bit of both. He
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: did Johnson too, Yeah ya, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: it's a little everything. I mean, check out what I
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: wrote I dug up with, Like I said, the quote
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: on from McDaniels, that'll tell you what what he plans
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: on to and just I mean, I think from off
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: field standpoint, just a guy that can come in and
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: probably I mean a thing about it last night. It's
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: a guy who speaks Josh's language right off the bat.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: So you know, when you're starting to do install and
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, Brandon, you know, just have him
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: go first. He show he knows he speaks the language.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Already his guys are learning. You have guys that can
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: hop in and do it and show you how it's
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: supposed to be done. You don't have like four guys
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: looking at each other like what what did Josh just say?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do? You know, you have
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: one guy that knows what he's doing. I mean, Bill
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: when he first got here was so dead set on
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: doing that. He brought in Bobby Hamilton and Anthony Pleasant
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: and he brought in Roman Fifer, and he was so
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: he felt that Roman Fifer was so important to bring in.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: He made an exception for him where after a game
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: he could fly to California and not come because that's
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: where his family was, and not come back till Wednesday. Yeah,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: he made that exception for the guy because it was
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: that important to have that type of veteran leadership on
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: his team. Yeah. Fans complaining about that one. They're like,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: how can they sign this guy that gets to fly away? Well,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: you know, but I think I think pretty quickly people realized, okay,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: he you know, it was for a good reason. There
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: weren't that many fans as many as they are now
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: back then, and yeah, they weren't paying his close attention.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: No internet where now it's like something happens in a
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: million people cry out and star wars. Um, here's a
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: game for you. This is still dan Um. Identify the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Patriots player by their nickname. I make no guarantee about
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: the accuracy of the nickname, but I got them all
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: from a published book on the Patriots, so they should
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: be legit. To make it easier, I've included players from
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: the eighties onwards who were on the team for at
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: least a few years, or players who were well known,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: all right. First, one is Chief Robert Parrish. Uh was
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: it was? That? Was that? Um? Come on? You know? Yeah,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: yeah it's John Hanna. No, no, no, he was Hogg.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Chief was David Patton. I did not know that. We
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: just did. Yeah, but I don't don't remember that Army
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Army wasn't Charlie Army. I don't know. I don't know that.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: When Bruce Um rooting tooting rout too, he seemed very eighties.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: This was the early eighties. Actually he played from eighty
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: two to eighty eight, so routing to somebody whose name
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: rhymed with rooting. And two he was an offensive lineman.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Don Luton close Ron wooton n Yeah, I knew it
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: was some of them. This person had two nicknames, ju
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Ju and the Jewel. Julian Edelman. No, oh, I have
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: thought you had it. Julian Adams, Yes, Julius, Julius had
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: the Reverend eighty one to ninety rayag knew no, oh,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: eighty one to ninety Yeah, Irving Friar, No, because he
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: became a reverend, I don't know. I think he became
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: a man of the cloth. Yeah. Lynn Dawson, Lynn Dawson,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Big Country There's been a lot of NFL players in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: nickname Big Country ninety four to two thousand, Big Country.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I remember the nickname. I don't remember. Nope, No, Matt's Lane,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: mister one O eight two thousand and five to two
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, mister one O eight, Oh my god,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I don't remember any of these. I don't know the
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: one's right in my wheelhouse. That's a wheelhouse. One mister
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: one to wait though, Ellis Hobbs because one hundred and
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: eight yard kick return, Yes, yes, Jets. Two more corn
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Flakes ninety one to ninety six, Corwyn Brown. I wouldn't
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: have got that one. And finally the Dancing Bear ninety
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: seven to ninety eight, Oh my god. Two Pete Carroll seasons. Yeah,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: that was Chris Canty. I'd love to know, Paul. Maybe
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: we could, I know, see if Parlo got any of
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: those ones. I don't remember any of those. Yeah. Um
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Brent and Indiana wants to know if we've heard anything
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: on Alan Robinson. I haven't heard or read anything. Uh
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: what have you heard? Um, here's to you. Robinson's going
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: to sign you. Um. I see two. The Cowboys are
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: releasing Layout Collins flat out releasing him. Yeah, expect to
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: be a post June one cut. Saves ten million a
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: post June one cut. So there's that goes into Fred's
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: fast forward into time. There are always players right into
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, so that could look out for June first,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: June second signing, Patriots sign. I mean not to try
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: to make people feel better, but I do always feel
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: like you get that initial Russia free agency and then
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: you're had in this period now where random guys are
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: just suddenly becoming available. That's what fres thing is like.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: There are always guys that are you know, and it's
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: guys you didn't really think about. You didn't spend the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: last two months being like this is a free agent priority,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: but you know, and I think that that's sometimes what
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: they take advantage of that they're you know, in position
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: now of old geez, we didn't expect this guy now
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: to be available and other teams can't really bid on them.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: It's just the way they do things. I know, everybody
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't love it, but right. Brendan from Port mcquarie writes
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: in Fred is right, we should have franchised J. C.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Jackson so we could either free up draft picks and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: free agent money for a wide receiver or trade him
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: for third round pick. And while I'm settling arguments, rivers
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: do have tides. This dynasty was more Brady than Belichick,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: and it was a trick play. I'm gonna Lawyer Malloy
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: has come up on some recent shows and it's made
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: me curious on the impact that his departure had at
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: the time. From your perspective from the inside, what impact
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: did his cutting and Tom Jackson's comments have on morale
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: and the organization back then? Well, only you were around. Yeah,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I remember the day it happened. I marched into Robert
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: Kraft's office and said, I need a pep talk, really,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: and he said, don't worry, we have a plan. It's
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be okay. And then we went to Buffalo and
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: we got pasted thirty one to nothing. And I just
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: remember getting on the bus after the game and the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: bus driver had the local Buffalo sports show postgame and
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: Lawyer Malloy was on it. It's like, you know, I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: like it here. You know here it's like a family.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: And I said to the driver, turned this off exact words. Yeah,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I was pissed, But they figured it out. They figured
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: it out and obviously, but yeah, so I want to
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: talk about the Tom Jackson thing in a second, but
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I just remember during that game, you know, it was
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: the first game of the season, and I think I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: was sitting next to Brian Moray and he's like, how
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: how far into the game is it before the defensive
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: secondary have their palms up looking at each other, And
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: sure enough it was like the second game of the
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: second play of the game, ty Laws like looking at yeah,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: like when this pombs up? Like what's going on. The
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Tom Jackson comment, though, I think was the opposite that
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: helped the team, because I'm when he said that. I
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: remember I was in a hotel room and I heard
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: it and like, oh, that's that's not good. Where's he
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: getting that from? You know, your your first assumption is
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: from a player. Yeah. I don't think he did, though.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I think he kind of made that up. And Bill was,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: you know, to this day, like I don't think he'll
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: talk to him. Yeah, And I think that Bill took
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: that quote and went to his team and said if
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: this one thing I do care about is you guys,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know what I do is
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: you know, for the best, you know. But I think
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: that that I think it helped and I know it
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: pissed Bill off, and they went out and and smacked
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: the Eagles around in Week two, right, Yeah, I recall
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: and you know when they won the Super Bowl that year, Um,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: you know Jackson was on the field. You know how
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: they have the death set up on the field with
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: and Bill said, I'm not doing it. I'm not going
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: on with you guys. It's interesting hearing that now and
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: kind of comparison to to Devin mccordy of what we're
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: talking about now, like an old safety who is kind
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: of being paid maybe too much to keep people on
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: the same page. And in that situation, I'm granted, I
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: know Laurie Miller is making more money than that, and
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: you know it was a bigger issue. But I also
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: think that he was near the end of the line,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: maybe couldn't run quite as well as they thought he
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: originally could, but they were willing to kind of tear
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: it off. Then. It's just kind of interesting comparison. Yeah. Um,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Chris and Colfax, California, No Colfax, Colfax Avenue, I mester,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: what Colfax the city? A couple of thoughts here. First off,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Paul wind about how dumb it was to resign mccordy,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: but signing him lowered his cap number, so the team
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: would have paid more to have him off the team
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: than on it. So that seems like a no brainer
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: to me. Also, what is a scenario where the team
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: finishes somewhere like four and thirteen and you feel good
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: about mac Jones's future if possible? Is there such a
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: scenario if they finished four and thirteen? Is there a
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: scenario in which they could do that and be confident
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: about Jacko's fourn O lights everything up, then gets hurt
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: and doesn't play. It's a good scenario. But what if
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: he finishes to see, I don't think so. I think
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: if they're four and thirteen, he didn't play, well, you
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: know right, well, we'll hold on. What if they were
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: in every single game because of mac Jones and it
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: was the defense that cost them the game victory? Okay, right?
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Like what if what if they lost those thirteen games
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: by an average score of like thirty five thirty three?
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: Like the offense is putting up points, they're keeping pace
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: with the too far off from justin Herbert's rookie season, right,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Like you've got like a twenty seventeen season where like
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: the offense can score on anybody, but the defense just
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: can't hold up. Now, I feel better already on that.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: I could see that lining up. You know, in theory,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: if you're laying it out, they're gonna turn some guys
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: over on defense this year might be a little bit
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: head or mess a cornerback. But offensively, if you can
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: get the line figure fifty touchdowns. But if but if
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: those games and you feel good, But if you have
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: if you have that many games that are closed, there
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: has to be a certain amount of those where Mac
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: has the ball last Yeah, and he didn't do it. Yeah,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: you know, so, I don't know. It's hard, it's hard.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say. You could really feel great. Yeah,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: I'd feel great about his future if he was playing
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: that way. But if every time you're in a big
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: spot he got the ball and here's your chance, it's
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: a little different, you know, right, I mean it could
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: go one hundred different ways. Yeah, uh, Claire rights in
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Hello Marin Marine. Um, I'm with you. Fred.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Not happy with Johnson going And the old line is
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: concerning the crap out of me. I wanted to keep
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: Caras and Mason. That trade stunned me. Doing my best
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: to stay positive because I love our quarterback and I'm
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him year two. But I am
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: a smidge worried right now. Yeah, it's the roller coaster
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: of the first week of free Asians how goes. But
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: as I said earlier, it also is another position now
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: that you have more question marks than you thought you
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: were going to have going into this offseason, and you
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: already have enough of those you don't need more. But
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: that's what happens in rebuilding years Raj and Saint Louis.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I understand everyone has allowed their opinions, but on Tuesday,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: Paul had to be intentionally optus or he's just a moron. Firstly,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I watch a lot of Chicago games and Alan Robinson
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: is all hype in Twitter highlights. He puts up those stats,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: but is just not a winning player, and most Bears
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: fan will tell you that. For a guy who preaches
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: to watch the game and not look just at stats
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: and hates hypocrites, the irony from Loudmouth there was pretty palpable. Also,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: if the cap is meaningless, then the Seahawks should be
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: in a much better position than they are out. Eventually
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: the bill for every team comes due will for the Rams, Packers, Bucks, Chiefs, etc.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe not twenty three or twenty twenty four, but soon
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: these teams will be cutting and struggling to retain talent
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: like Tennessee and Seattle currently are. Yes, the cap can
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: be manipulated, but really only if you draft well and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: have cheap talented players like New Orleans. Even for them,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: they're looking at a rough first half of the decade
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: because of how much they pushed back Breezes contract. I'm
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: all for criticizing Belichick in his moves, but your arguments
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: against him have to be logical and not just Paul's.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: It's wrong because my feelings is still hurt that bled
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Cell was replaced. Yeah, put that one in the opener morale. Yeah,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I don't think that's why Paul,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, and I mean not to defend Paul,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: but I mean having conversation with him literally yesterday off
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: air about Alan Robinson, and he was kind of so.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he said or what impression he
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: gave on the radio, but I don't think he's banging
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: the table like he's I think it's I think somebody
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: said he hasn't done that much, but he has put
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: up numbers. He has put up numbers. Yeah, he's And
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I said, he's like Brandon Cook, you know, wherever he Yeah,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: wherever he goes. He's close to a thousand yards, but
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: he goes from place to place just always a little
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: bit of a red flag, regardless of guys that just
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: kind of bounce around. Certain guys just do that. Uh,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: let's see Bill and Bozeman writes in um, am I
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: alone in thinking that Shaq Mason is incredibly overrated with
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: a contract way out of whack with his skill set.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: Am I the only one who remembers who got badly
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: beat for a game ending strip sack in Super Bowl
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: fifty two. He's a solid player, but not a pro bowler.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: I'm happy we unloaded the contract and the player. I
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: think he's a I think he's a good player, to
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: be honest, I've never been the biggest fan. I think
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: he's really athletic, but I think he's undersized, and I
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: definitely think there are, you know, we're games that he
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: had some struggles, But I think he was a very
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: very solid player for the Patriots. And you know this,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: it hurts. But again, if you had to pick one
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: position on a whole entire football roster to have to replace,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: I'm taking right guard first. Like every time Tony writes in,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: he says, Eric, South Dakota State hasn't lost since mid December.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your friars in the attorney for the next two
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: hours while you can Wow. Okay, this must have come
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: in before. Huh. What's the score now? Province has like
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: a double digit lead. Nice? Nice in the Patriots. In
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: the Patriot's opinions, the return for Shack is disappointing since
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: he was a fan favorite. The return meeting the fifth
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: round pick. But I can't fault the team for trading
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: away an interior lineman who costs tennish million. And that's
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: a decent return for a guard. What was the return
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: for Mankins? A fourth rounder? Guards just aren't that valuable,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: especially when they make ten plus million. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: look that trade up. I don't remember exactly what they
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: got from. Yeah, I don't think it was. I think
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: it's just it's the money. So it's the money that
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: brings the draft picked out. And I again just to
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: state it for the record. I mean Jonathan Jones. I
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: don't know anything, but he's another one that big chunk
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: of changed. This year, the Patriots acquired tight end Tim Wright,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: remember him? Oh? Touchdown Tim Wright and a twenty fifteen
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: fourth round pick for Logan Mankins. Okay, so I picked
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: the following year and a player that year. Yeah, Ramone
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: writes in he's in Tampa. This rebuild should have happened
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Slash begun the year we brought in camp Eric hit it.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: They seemed indecisive, but it also seems there was no
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: forward or realistic thinking. I didn't see any reason for
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: them to be as optimistic as they were. What we
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: should have done was taken care of one of our corners,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: signed a few players, and be intentional with our draft picks.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: Ideally we would have been turning that rebuilding corner. Anyhow,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: we're here now, and I just hope that we hit
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: on half of our draft picks. I don't care who
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: we draft. I just need them to be good. It
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: would be icing if there were. If they are position
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: of need too, that would help. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: I think the comparison is if you hadn't drafted in
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: nine to like twelve Edelman, Gronk, mccordy, High Tower Jones.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: If you hadn't hit those four guys, that's what you're
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: getting now. You didn't get those guys in those drafts
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: like and they got those guys so they were able
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: to groom and build around them and win Super Bowls.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: You need star players, and I feel like last year
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: they got I mean, they got mac Jones. They have
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: to continue the more they seem like legit impact NFL players,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: they need at least three more to continue to that trend.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Ye Russell in Arkansas, he's upset if we don't sign upset.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: If we don't sign someone today, I might swan dive
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: off my roof. They sign time on coming, So just
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: give me Alan Robinson and maybe Trey Flowers. I'm with
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: the Entrey Flowers. I think that that that would make
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: sense to me, you know, just a good solid edge guy.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Not I don't even to be twenty sacks, you know,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: not that he's that guy, But I think that makes sense.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: David writes in and Bethlehem, the schemes and teams are changing.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going to change. Two the skills of players
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: influenced tactics. But in twenty twenty two, the schemes and
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: offense and defense are going to change. Will the Patriots
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: abandon ground to pound? And what will they do well
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: they abandon it? For I think that's an excellent question
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: because you let Yakob Johnson walk. You know, Shack Mason
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: is at his best on the move as a run blocker.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: You know Ted carriss, I think he's he's a tough,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of run guy. And I think those
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: moves may maybe do signal I don't want to get
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: too caught up in like every time they make a
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: move that it signals like a grand departure from what
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: they do. It's like they anytime they draft a linebacker
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: who can run, it's like the whole scheme is suddenly changing.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: But I do think that there's possibly something to that
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: with you know, those guys going out, Trent Brown, I mean,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: those are you know, big pieces of that. Like everybody thought, hey,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: we're gonna everyone's getting lighter on defense, We're gonna run it,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, put all these big guys out there,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: So maybe they are. Maybe it's it's it's it is
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: evolving a little bit it But you know, I think
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Montgomery maybe feeds into that a little bit too, of
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: of having a versatile guy who can do a bunch
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: of things. So also wants to know will the Patriots
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: find and feed some man mountains on the defensive line
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: or will they let loose the hybrids? Will they find? Um?
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jordan Davis is the huge dude
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: from Georgia that I mean, it's easy to imagine how
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: he'd fit with bar Moore and what what that would
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: kind of how that would kind of work. Um. But
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I start with edge and linebacker
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: speed like that's that's it right there and edge, you know,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: I mean I think that they're okay shape for this
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: year with with coming and you know, I don't hate
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Gatcha as much as as Paul did. Um. You know,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: I think Davis has gone, So maybe there's a spot
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: for like a rookie Um Travis Jones from Yukon would
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: be like a later version of of of that Georgia guy.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think that everything's a need. You
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: can take anything, but I'd start with edge and linebacker,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Sulman Wright saying, I understand we were not going to
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: have a repeat a last offseason spending spree, but they
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: haven't even made a push for second tier players and
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: relatively cheap deals that were used to seeing them doing.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: Deuce made the point that they are nowhere up to
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: par with the Chiefs, Bills, Bengals. I would go even
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: further to say right now they're on the third best
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: team in the AFC East. Don't need any rationale for
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: why they're behind the Bills. For the Dolphins, they have
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: proven they can beat the Patriots consistently. Have already signed
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: a few role players for relatively low cost deals Chase Edmonds,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: Raheem mos Dirt, Cedric Wilson. These are the type of
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: signings Patriots would make. I'm concerned the Patriots will be
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: will be trying to play catch up for the next
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons against the Bills and the Dolphins. I
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. Those guys really not much different than who
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: they've signed, like time Montgomery and I mean I see similarities.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with the point that the Dolphins beat
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: you twice last year. I do think it's a different
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: dynamic with Mike McDaniel there instead of b Flow, who
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: would blow your team's gonna get up. They know you
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: were Patriots coach. You know, the Patriots, you're you know.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really enjoy listening to Mike McDaniel talk.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating coach matchup because it's like
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: two opposites thirty something say anything jokey dude and Bill Belichick.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: I like, it couldn't be more opposite ends of the
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: spectrum for those two coaches. Yeah, Kennon, New Jersey, I'm
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: very confused by the moves. I guess I'm trying to
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: figure out how Bill thinks about the next few years.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Does he think his teams always have a fighter's chance
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: to go deep in the playoffs? Does he ever write
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: off a year not taking just realizing that this isn't
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: going to be the year. I think he's trying to
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: find a narrow path where he keeps the team competitive
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: while he's rebuilding for a serious run in twenty twenty four. Well,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: I think any coach would want to try to stay
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: competitive even when you're rebuilding. I mean they're not. I
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: mean the two thousand and one Patriots, you're not. You're not.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: You lost your quarterback, right, You've got a bunch of
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: new free agents, Like you know, I still think he
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: looks at it like that season with you put the
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: pieces in place, you try to build a strong roster
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: top to bottom, and then you see what happens. You
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: see how plays out with injuries, even like we saw
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: snippet in the two thousand and nine season, when I
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: can't get these guys to do what I want them
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: to do. Like he knew during the season that this
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't like probably a team that was gonna go anywhere,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: but they still made the playoffs a lot, still trying
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: to win games. Alana sent us an email about not
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: mentioning Brady, and just as she said that or sent
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: the email, Megan called, so she was like, oh my god,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned Brady to Megan, I literally sent the email.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: So either I thought you can have that one. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: um let's see. Yeah, Paul writes in from Drake, it
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: not listening live, so if it's been covered already, my apologize. Paul.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: At one hour in twelve minutes into Tuesday show, you
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: made a bold end statement that Bolden would be back.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: Boy did that hot take? Cool fast? I think he
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: was being snarky. I think was not a rule. I
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: think he meant it. No, But you know Paul. I
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: think he was kind of he said he'll be back. Wow.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing with Paul. You never can quite
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: pin him down, like it's just it's always gonna be
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: the next next thing. He thought he was gonna be
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: bad because that's what Bill does. See, he doesn't know
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: and he knows. You can never say that's what Bill
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: does because we don't know what Bill does. Yea, you know,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: there is no one way. I think if Brandon King
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: was signing would be the one to make Paul's head explode.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: That would be like the cherry like it's just a
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: pure special teamer who's like thirty three. But I'm with
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: you if they bring back High Tower, I'll be with you.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: I will not like that, yep, yep. And that's it's
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: hard to say because you love High Tower. But I
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: just think that's where they need to get like younger.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Like if somebody said to me High Tower or van Noy,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: forget about money, I would say van Noy, I think
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: he did more last year than High Tower did. But
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: who would you rather have? Off the feeling, well that
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: I think they told you about that. But but you
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yeah, but you know what I say,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: like like I don't want either one of them, but
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: you know i'd pick van Noy over High Tower at
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: this point in their career. Certainly not years ago, but
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: right now. So if you're not gonna bring van noyback,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: you should you shouldn't bring High Tower? Bad? Do you
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: always go along? When Paul? All right? Oh my god,
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, how long were we going here? Sorry
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: about bonus time? Yeah, well it makes up for all
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: the times we end like three minutes early. So right,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: all right, Well that's gonna be it for this edition
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: of Patriots Unfiltered. I'm sure there will be news, uh
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: you know, big signings, but well other teams signings and
• 2:02:35
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