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Waite Nights, Page Flights, Mormon Wives and Vatican Fights · Rik and that Michele Chick

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Welcome to Rick and That Michelle Chick, the weekly
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podcast where your hosts, Rick and Michelle, confidently dive
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into topics they know absolutely nothing about and somehow make
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it sound legit. They're not experts.
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They're not qualified. Honestly, they barely googled
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it. So grab a drink, lower your
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expectations, and let's pretend this counts as content.
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So buckle up. Facts are optional, but the
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bullshit? That's premium grade.
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This is Rick and that Michelle chick.
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Before we jump into stuff, my friend Risa, you know she's like
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one of our three listeners, yes. One of four, yes.
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Yes. So I was with her a couple weeks
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ago and she was asking me, which I think we've talked about this
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in a past podcast, but she might not have listened to that
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podcast or whatever, but she was asking me why I wear headphones
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and you don't wear headphones. And so I said, well, he doesn't
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want to mess up his hair. Well, and then she said, well,
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don't you have to wear them when you're on the radio?
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And I was like, yes. And she said, well, isn't his
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hair getting messed up then? And I was like, well yes, so you
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can explain. So it's interesting.
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So if you, if you've not noticed, and I don't, I don't
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think we've ever talked about this.
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Notice how I don't have a wedding ring on?
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Yeah, notice. No I.
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Think we've talked about the wedding?
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Room I have 0 like I don't have AI would not wear a necklace, I
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don't have jewelry anything it it is not even about my hair.
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I don't like things touching me to some extent these days.
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I don't know why and so. What do you mean these days?
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Like you've never worn a wedding ring?
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You've never like, I've never seen you wear jewelry of any
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kind. No, no bracelet.
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I don't like, I don't like, I don't like the feel of steel on
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my body or things on my body. And so what's interesting which
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I can answer the the question even on air now I discovered
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this most amazing thing. And so we're in our brand new
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studios at KORD and I've got, I have my headset.
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So I've gotten rid of the old headset and now I just have it
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like. The cans.
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Right, right. And so it, so at work, I just
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have a Walkman earbud and shocker, I have you ever also
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noticed that I only wear one all the time?
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I don't wear both like this, right?
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It's always just one. Yeah.
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So I've got these little earbuds.
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It's still hardwired. You know what I'm saying?
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It's not, it's not, it's not remote.
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It's. Not Bluetooth.
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Yeah, I can still. I'm still.
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Old school so it's an old yeah so it's an old Walkman.
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It's an old Walkman headset, but it just has like the little
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earbud and then it goes down into the into the headphone amp.
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So I, I can't stand like I can't stand things like it just it
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just sounds weird and and here's one of the things I learned in
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radio was so for for radio people and.
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And she might be able to relate to this.
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So you don't sound like your real self when you have your
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head. If you have a headphone on like
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this, like that, you what? The voice you hear in your head
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is way deeper than than what your voice really is.
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And so for me, when I first got started in radio #1 it took me
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forever to be even halfway decent.
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At least in my humble opinion. I still suck.
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That's all of us. But but I didn't, I, I puked,
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they called it puking anyway, So someone had said, hey, take, you
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know, have one can on, one can on and and then and then you'll,
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you'll be able to hear the room, you hear the room and then you
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hear yourself and then you really have.
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To wear headphones when we're on the radio because you can't hear
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the song, you can't hear anything.
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And so that's why we would have to.
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That's why. We have to So what happened like
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so the reason why she wears the headphones like so let's say
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we're in the on air studio. If we hit the button, it mutes
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the music. Everything.
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So you're hearing it through your headphone.
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But even then, I still, even if I had cans on, it's one it's
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one. I I I barely need to hear the
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music for me, right, because because I and I've also I've
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also in our industry, people lose their hearing.
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Yes, you know, so you'll walk in after the disc jock the the
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prior previous show and your head.
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You plug in your headphones and it's like you.
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Guy yeah, you're the freaking so they're freaking deaf.
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So so I've taken special care in my in my career to protect my
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ear, my my ears. So it's one of those things if I
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don't have to wear a headphone or or earplugs or anything, I
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won't I won't do it. So I try, I try not to so.
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Well, you could wear earbuds. Or earbuds while.
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We do. This, but I don't even like the
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feel of. I just don't like the feel.
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Have you never liked the feel of headphones or is that new?
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No, I think, OK, so the the thinner the better if I do have
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to wear a headset. So like what you're wearing
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right now is like that's just too bulky.
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That's just I know that's bulky. That's.
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Just, and I like, I like my entire ear covered, but I've
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also had to have surgery on my left ear because I had a
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ruptured eardrum when I was little.
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So I can't hear that well out of that ear anyway.
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And so I feel like that helps me here better.
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I, I know that back in the day and my gosh, they were, there
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were Sanheisers. I wish I could find them.
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You've seen them if you ever watched a video from the 80s or
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90 or no 70s. The red and Gray ones.
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No, they had the yellow foam. Oh, so the Sanheisers had the
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old ones, the only but it had but, but they were thin.
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But that but the yellow foam was thin, it wasn't bulky.
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And so I think looking back, if I could have any headphones that
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we had at radio stations in the late 80s, early 90s, was those
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yellow, Remember those yellow ones?
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Yes, yes, I know what you're talking about now.
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Now I can. Picture like it was all the DJs
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on like Kuti when I worked at KXDD that would I could see them
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through the glass with their little yellow.
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Phone and it's the yellow ones right the sanitizers now maybe
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it's because it's my favorite color too, but but yeah so so
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even yeah so any anytime I can avoid wearing a head or any
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anything I pretty I pretty much avoid it so yeah and it and and
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I just you know it's it's for me it's uncomfortable so so #1 to
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preserve my hearing number two I've just always anything is is
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absolutely uncomfortable and it's so funny is even when I did
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wear them everybody used to laugh because I would wear so
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your top of your headphones is on the top of your head yes I
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would wear them here. Which it's a little bit back a
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little bit I could probably right.
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So, but I would wear them here, not mess up my hair too.
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So, so people would come in and see me with a headphone and all
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of it and the headphones. Or you turn them upside down.
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Oh I never did that because no, anything near the neck would
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would would drive me nuts. So yes, I can't do that, but but
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I could at least wear them on my forehead.
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People would come in the studio and I had them on my forehead,
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but you wouldn't know. You even know this when I'm
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voice tracking, which is different than being on the air.
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I never wear a headset. No, and I don't know how you do
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it. It's amazing to.
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Me, because I'll. Because I'll put the music in
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the little cue speaker, right? Yeah, even.
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Then that irritates me. I could never do that.
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Never. Ever.
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Yeah, so, and, and also I cheat also too, if, if I can't go
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through the cue speaker, I plug the headphone into the board and
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then I just have the phone sitting there.
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I mean, they have folks sitting there with the with the volume
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up. Right.
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And you can still hear. I can hear the, I can hear, I
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can hear the music down below. Are the music better or
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whatever? So Yep, it's just personal
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preference. I know that's a long, long
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answer to a short question, but I just, I know it was one of
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those things where like, yeah, I, I, I've.
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And so Megan. So I do have a wedding ring.
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And then Megan this Christmas bought me a rubber band.
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Like a rubber. Didn't you have it on for a
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while? Yeah.
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When we did our podcast right after Christmas and you, you
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can't wear it. I, well, I I do on special
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occasions when I want to look, when I want to look like I'm
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married. Your anniversary or Yeah.
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Well. Taken's birthday.
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So if we go out to dinner or something, I will wear it, you
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know, but and so I wore it. Oh, I worked at the John Wade
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show. So but I mean, so that so that
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that and she got that what REI, which is like a sports, I mean
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sports place. And and so it's a it's more of a
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silicon. Yeah, rubber.
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Yeah. So I'll wear it, but I I just
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don't. I just don't like to wear.
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Yeah. Things like that never have.
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Yeah. So when I see guys with pinky
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rings or any of that, yeah, just.
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Lots of jewelry, necklaces. Watches.
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Yeah. I think I had a black Casio
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watch. Watch that's.
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Crazy. Yeah.
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I had a black Casio watch, I think as a kid.
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But for me, it's like if I wear a watch, it just pulls on my
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hair. I can't stick the feel of that
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when it's what is it, gold or silver, whatever, and it's just
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freaking tear it. Yeah, it's tearing on the hair
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of my arm. I'm like, no.
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I mean, you could shave it off. I guess you could, but I didn't.
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I I think I've ever liked to watch.
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I don't think I've ever liked to watch just.
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Shave like a little spot right here for.
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You right, right I do I do have a fossil watch from an
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ex-girlfriend and it's engraved and from Kelly, my my
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ex-girlfriend in Bakersfield. And so that one's actually in
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it's in storage because it does, it's sentimental, right.
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And then she had, she had a great saying, saying that, you
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know, every, every man should have a, a nice watch.
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That's what that's how she was raised.
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That's where her mom told her. So she got me a nice, I do have
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a nice watch. It's a fossil and it's engraved
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and and all that. Now probably wearing that around
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Megan probably not make her happy.
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But no, that's. Probably not a good idea, but
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it's in. Yeah, but it's in storage.
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I mean, it it does have sentimental.
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Have you ever. You probably never have.
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Have you ever saved anything from an ex-boyfriend at all?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So do you have a memory box? Yeah, that's in storage now,
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yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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So, yeah. So I've got a memory box.
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Megan's got a memory box. Yeah, I was going to say my
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husband. I mean, he was married before
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me, so. Right, you know, that's the
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yeah. Yeah.
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So, so I mean, so, yeah. So it's, it's it's tucked away.
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I mean, not, not like I can, you know, get into it or anything
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like that. Right.
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So it's not like we're like daily like flipping through
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these boxes of. No, no, but it's you know, but
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it's nice. It's nice to have.
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The only bummer about Myspace was I had I had a ton of photos
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on Myspace forever, forever, right and then and and it was a
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good place. So you actually, even after
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years after Myspace wasn't popular, you can still go look
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at your old photos. They were still up there and
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then and then Myspace sent out an e-mail about a couple years
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ago, sorry, we had a big server crash and all your anything that
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was on my bags. And so I had all these old
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photos, all these photos that I don't have, and I went.
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So I lost him. I was like so upset.
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OK. You mentioned the John Waite
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show. Yeah.
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So I want to ask you about that. How was it?
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It was great. So John Waites was at Purim Hall
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in Zilla and it's the old furniture warehouse.
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If you've never been, have you ever been to Purim Hall?
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Yeah, yeah, a couple times. Yeah.
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Who did we go? Was it Jack Ingram?
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Well, Joe? Jack Ingram.
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And then I also saw Buckcherry there.
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Oh, years ago I took Amy. I took Amy Yogurt.
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Oh, of course you did. Of course you did.
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And, and there, I think there's a photo of us at Purim Hall.
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You know, I have to, I have to find it, but it's in my, it's in
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my, and I think Kelly West and you and I and, and anyway,
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there's a picture and I think Amy was even in that picture
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too. I think Amy was wearing like
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Hawaiian clothes or something, something crazy.
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Yeah, there's a photo of us. So.
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So he was at Emerald Queen Casino, you know, in Tacoma, and
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then he was at the Spokane Tribe casinos.
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So. So Thursday night he was at
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Emerald Queen, and then Saturday he was in Spokane and John
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Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band opened.
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But then he did a little side tour or like a side show right
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there at Param Hall. Yeah.
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And it was Param Hall fills, what, 300 people or whatever?
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It's not a big, not a big venue, not a big.
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I was going to say it can't be more than 400.
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Right. It's not it's not and it's like
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it's it almost looks like old prohibition, like underground.
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Yeah, yeah. And so.
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And what it's so good. What I love about it too.
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And it was it was a fun night. What I love about it is the only
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way the artist can get to the stage is walk, not necessarily
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walk through the crowd, but they.
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But they have to come to the door.
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So there's no hiding the artist. So when so when the in the.
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Screen Room. There's no, well, I'm sure
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there's a green room there, but I'm saying when they come on
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stage, there's no curtain drop. There's no, you know, the band,
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just. Walk.
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No, that it's, it's almost like open mic night, you know what
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I'm saying? I mean, they just come, they
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just come in from the side. It's not like they're they're
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trying to hide anybody or you're you know, you're like, oh, well,
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there's John Waite. I mean, it wasn't like, you
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know. And so the cool thing about it,
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intimate intimate intimates venue was they didn't sell.
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I guess they were. I guess the promoter was a
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little upset or disappointed. Not upset they didn't sell out
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or. They didn't.
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No. So it was probably, I'd say
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maybe 200 people or whatever. But it was really intimate.
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You could walk right up to the stage and be right underneath
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John Wade if you wanted to. Do you know, it might, might
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have only been 100 and some people I don't know, but it was
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for me, it was fantastic because I'm a huge John Wade fan.
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But I saw your old friend Todd Lyons and Carrie and his wife
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Carrie was there. Kurt Cartier was there from the
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you know, they came in from the the the classic rock station in
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Yakima. And so John waits absolutely
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amazing. Missing you when I see you smile
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now, Megan didn't really know. She knew missing you, right, But
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she didn't really know the other 80s songs like change, which I
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love change. I mean, so there's a bunch of
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songs I knew was like, Oh, this is you know, but that's because
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I'm a John John Wake fan. So and I really, really enjoyed
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it, you know, and so it was great.
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And and the nice thing is I didn't have to go to Spokane
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Tribe. I didn't have to go to Denver
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Queen. And I'm right there.
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I'm right there and front row, front row center, basically, I
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can get as close as I wanted to get.
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I threw a little video up that Patty, my Patty took on my
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YouTube. So that's how close it could be.
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Nice. You know, and, and again, it
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was, you know, it's one of those, it was one of those great
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nights where he did his, you know, 12 songs or whatever.
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And, and, and I just, I just love it just by the fact that
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they they have to walk on stage. If they're not, you're not, you
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know? And they're just, they're just
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normal. They're just normal.
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I guess that's yes, that that for me.
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I just absolutely love when you see the artist not doing the
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whole and and the nice thing about it again, the show.
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This is this is the best part, Michelle, because we're getting
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old. So the show started at oh doors
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opened at 6:30 and the and the show started at 7:30 and he was
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done by 9845. I'm like, I'm like, no, no, 930
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bullshit. Going all the way to freaking 11
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or so. Yeah, yeah, no, it was like by
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by 839 or 83845. It was like, all right, good
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night, everybody. See ya.
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And he did. And the best part, too, which I
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had snuck a peek of the setlist on because you can always go
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online if you go to setlist.com. So I knew what the setlist was.
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And his last song was Led Zeppelin's Whole Lot of Love,
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right? So.
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So the cool thing about it was he got to that song.
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He did, you know, he did, missing you when I'm back on my
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feet again. And then he went into that when
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he goes. All right, guys, this is the
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last song of the night. Thank you for coming out.
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He does a whole lot of love by Led Zeppelin.
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Then he leaves. I mean, he's done.
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And it's so funny. They're still waiting for him to
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come back and do an on court. Yeah.
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But he didn't do 1. And I said, I said.
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And I said for my old age, this is absolutely perfect.
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You know, And I have to say not to get off course, but one of my
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favorite shows I ever saw in legends was Kenny Rogers.
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Kenny Rogers came on at 7:30, 730 exactly.
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And at 8:30 he was done. And what he said was for Islands
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in the Stream, he goes, hey, guys, he goes, I'm too old.
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He goes, I'm too old to go back behind the stage and you guys
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cheer for me and all that because remember, he's like 78
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at the time or whatever he goes. So can I, can I just do the
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encore now? And so he did Islands in the
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Stream and that was it. And so it made me made me laugh.
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It was a great show. Kenny Rogers.
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Every song is a hit, right? Well, Megan, who loves Kenny
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Rogers, years ago we saw him at the Ben Franken Fair and Rodeo.
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And I said, watch this, this Megan.
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And she goes, what? I said 7:30, he's going to hit
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it on the dot and he'll be done at 8:30.
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And she goes, no, he won't. No, he won't.
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Literally at 7:30 he walks out, does the show, and right at 8:30
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all right or right, even before 8:30, he does islands in the
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stream. And then he gets off the stage
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exactly at 8:30, like it's exactly an hour timed perfect.
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So crazy. So yeah, the John Waite show.
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It is what it would have been awesome.
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I do have a quick question for you.
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I'm not going to fly out and do this.
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So I'm I'm, I'm on Spotify. I'm listening to John Waite or
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whatever. Right.
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And then I thought, well, I'll just go over and, and and play a
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couple songs for my old buddy Richard Page, right.
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As we all know, Mr. Mr. Lead singer right out of the blue it
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says on tour. No.
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And you do not know this? No.
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No, no, I know that. No, no.
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With any artist. With any artist it has if
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they're on tour, no. They pop up and tell you stuff
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and. Yeah, yes.
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I'm saying what's crazy is guess who, when I was in the Richard
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Page songs, guess what it said on tour and I went, wait, well
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he doesn't tour. So I went in and he's doing a
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one off show in Louisville, KY with Dan and Shay Gabby
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Barrett's Richard Marx. Oh.
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My goodness. Yeah, so that.
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Would be fabulous. Yes, and so it's for the
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Shriners. It's a it's a benefit concert,
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but it I thought, man, maybe I should I've never been never
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been to Kentucky. I don't want to go to Kentucky.
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But you know, now of course he's going to go out and do his two
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big he's going to do broken wings and Curiae probably and
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that's it because he's a special he's a special guest, right.
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Oh, and the leads of Kansas. Yeah.
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And when you have a line up like that, kind of like a watershed,
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you're limited on your time because it's back-to-back to
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back-to-back artist and so you can't go over time.
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Yeah, which is amazing. Richard Page.
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Like what? I mean, whoever put this, no,
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like you're thinking, OK, sure. It's a Shriners event.
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It's Shriners, right? It's Shriners.
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I mean, it's for the kids. I get it.
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But who sat down and goes, OK, Dan and Shay, Gabby Barrett,
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Richard Marx. Oh, let's get Richard Page for
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Mr. Mr. What, You know, but that's only tour date.
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That's it. It's not like he's on tour.
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It's just that's that one day, that one day so.
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And when it's this? July.
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It's in July. So you have time.
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You on a Saturday night? See, you have time to you could
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fly out Friday. I told him, do you fly out for
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two songs? You would.
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I Well, the nice thing is I. Cost money and airline tickets
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are expensive. I know I checked it was like 600
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bucks round trip from Yeah for for this flight actually.
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That's not bad, so. And then the best seats are 400
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because, well, it's a it's a benefit concert, but but the
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cheapest are like 50 some dollars, you know, but it still
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shocked me when I when I went tour.
19:02
And then it goes Ed and Shay Gabby Barrett, like what kind of
19:05
tour? What you.
19:07
Know you're like excuse me, what is going?
19:09
On well, you know, well, yeah, there's like the like, what are
19:11
the what are the similarities in this particular in this in this
19:15
anyway, so yeah, it's exciting. So John awake fantastic.
19:18
Highly recommend. He was amazing. 73 years old
19:21
too. Is he that old?
19:23
That yeah, he looks great. He looks great, like he looks
19:26
great came out and the nice thing I love also about the
19:29
band. So their style was John Waite.
19:31
They're they're in suits. So the band is in suits.
19:34
So it's not, you know, so that's kind of I kind of like and and
19:37
Patty's oh, they were in suits. I'm like, yeah, so that's kind
19:40
of cool that they were like, because he's an Englishman.
19:42
John Wick's English, he's not American, but but the band is
19:46
in. They weren't like they weren't
19:47
tatted out and. Right in their rocker clothes.
19:51
Or just their jeans and well, you know their.
19:53
Jeans and bands and right, Yeah. No, they go out.
19:56
He's in a very nice, like a leisure shoot.
19:58
I mean like a, you know. And I'm sure it was $1000 plus
20:02
suit, but I mean, it was. Right.
20:03
And that's hot, like being on stage and.
20:06
Oh, he took off his jacket, You know, did the whole, you know,
20:08
you do a couple songs, take your jacket, right, All that.
20:10
So. And the women love that.
20:11
So yeah, it was. Super cool.
20:12
So pyram hall Zilla. Definitely worth checking out.
20:15
I didn't realize Buckcherry had come.
20:17
That's that is such a uh huh. Amy Yogurt.
20:19
Quite a few years ago and I bought tickets and then I just
20:23
asked Amy if she I loved Buckcherry.
20:25
And so I was like, Oh my God, like this is the perfect venue
20:28
to see them because it's tiny. So yeah, I mean, the only thing
20:32
I don't like about it is it is standing room only.
20:34
And now that I'm older, like you said, you like that it's done
20:37
early. I don't like standing anymore.
20:40
So any like GA shit I will be like no.
20:43
Thank you. No thanks.
20:45
Buckcherry didn't have chairs out there at all.
20:47
No, no standing room. Wayne is old.
20:49
OK, So John Wayne must be old people's stuff because because
20:52
there was there was aisles and aisles of chairs.
20:54
There was still that there was still the the stage area where
20:56
you could stand, right. But then but then there was VIP
20:59
tables set up and then there was like a lay a ton of chairs in
21:03
the back. Just Yeah, must be because of
21:05
his age. Right, all of us older.
21:08
People old, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody, no, no, 18 year olds
21:11
gonna go mosh pit at John Waite. Maybe that's the difference, but
21:14
Cherry, you're gonna mosh pit so.
21:15
Oh, yes, yeah. There were some people that were
21:18
doing it, but yeah. Like really, I mean, now going
21:22
back to Peeram Hall, which is it is a great venue really.
21:24
I'm going to make it funny. You're mosh pitting at
21:26
Buckcherry at Peeram Hall. If you saw the venue, you'd be
21:29
like, really? I did it at the Gorge or
21:32
something with this big old mud, whatever.
21:34
You know the but but you look kind of goofy.
21:38
It's almost like it's almost like mosh pitting in your
21:40
basement. Yes, exactly.
21:42
And there was only a few guys that were doing it too.
21:45
It must have been. They must have been like the
21:46
hardcore. Yeah, they must have been like
21:49
the older guys trying to relive their youth, is what I think was
21:52
happening. Yeah, and they probably injured
21:54
themselves. Buckcherry Yeah, but good show,
21:58
right? Yeah, it was, It was good.
22:01
It was. Yeah.
22:02
They can see Sing live, definitely.
22:05
And did they do it encore? Did they just do like what John
22:08
Wayne did with? No, they did a little encore, so
22:10
yeah. But they but they had to
22:12
basically walk out the door and come back in.
22:14
Yes. That's the hilarity.
22:16
The door is like right next to the stage.
22:18
It's not like you're walking anywhere, you know?
22:19
Basically, when you get off the stage, you're pretty much at the
22:21
door. Yeah, yeah.
22:24
So. So yeah.
22:24
Well, I'm glad. I'm glad it was good.
22:27
I want to talk about I finished watching, I know you don't watch
22:31
this. I finished watching The Secret
22:33
Lives of Mormon Wives the last season, which was season 4 I
22:36
think, which it ends with Taylor, you know, the girl that
22:40
was supposed to be The Bachelorette.
22:43
Oh yeah. That that girl, it ends with her
22:46
leaving to go beyond the Bachelor to start filming The
22:49
Bachelorette. Oh.
22:50
Wow, that's earlier. Yeah, that's where her secret
22:53
lives and Mormon Wives ends. And it ends with her right as
22:56
she's about to start filming. She like, she's in, she goes,
22:59
flies to LA, and then it kind of stops there.
23:03
But she had been sleeping with her baby daddy #2 like right
23:08
before that. Like like the night before.
23:12
And then it shows him telling some of the other cast members
23:17
that she told him that when they had sex, which they had sex
23:20
multiple times a couple times before this as well, that she
23:25
had been ovulating when they had sex.
23:29
And she doesn't use birth control because she doesn't like
23:31
the hormones in it and how it affects her body.
23:35
And so that's how that's her birth control is tracking her
23:38
cycle. It's tracking her cycle.
23:42
And so it ends there. That's where it ends.
23:44
Like like and her friends, the the women from mom talk are like
23:49
she could be like the first pregnant Bachelorette, like what
23:52
is happening anyway? So I thought that was
23:56
interesting. And then I've read recently, so
24:00
that video surfaced that we talked about which kind of ended
24:04
her being The Bachelorette or The Bachelorette airing that
24:08
they had already filmed, right? Which that video is from years
24:12
ago, years ago. And then the new allegations for
24:16
Baby daddy #2 which is the video, which is who she's
24:20
throwing the chair out in the video, the new charges that he
24:24
was trying to drum up against her are from like 2 years ago.
24:28
So he went into the police station and tried to get charges
24:32
against her for stuff that is from 2-3 years ago.
24:37
And so the DA, the prosecutor came back with, we're not going
24:40
to press charges against her because the statue of
24:43
limitations has passed and there's not enough sufficient
24:46
evidence. And so so there's no new charges
24:51
against her. And so the women of Mom Talk are
24:54
upset that she's causing so much drama with mom talk because this
24:58
is how they all make their money now.
25:00
And so they were they were currently filming for the next
25:03
season of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives when all this
25:06
happened. And so the women of Mom Talk
25:08
were like, we want to stop filming for a while.
25:10
And so that has been put on hiatus.
25:13
So I don't know what's going to happen.
25:14
But anyway, that is all the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
25:18
drama to and. I know you love this, so OK, so
25:22
I've got A and this is not. OK.
25:24
Do you have questions? This is.
25:25
Not throwing stones at at glass houses.
25:29
I struggle so hard. OK, maybe the title of the show
25:33
should not be Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
25:35
By the fact that I feel when you when you say you're religious, I
25:42
expect you to act what you say you are.
25:45
You know, I'm saying I don't, I don't think you should.
25:47
I like she gets to be a skanky hoe and yet and yet no, I'm
25:51
saying and yet I'm a Mormon. Really.
25:54
So. No, no, I'm saying is it is she
25:57
not, is she not Mormon? Is she a practicing Mormon?
26:01
I don't know that she's necessarily like practicing
26:03
practicing. So there are two groups in Mom
26:07
talk. So there are the well, there's
26:10
the practicing Mormons. So there's a couple of the girls
26:13
that are the practicing Mormons and then there's a couple of
26:16
girls in the group that are not practicing, but that were raised
26:20
in it, that still have family members that have been kind of
26:25
struggling with Mormonism itself and questioning stuff.
26:29
And so you have those girls in the same group.
26:33
And so the ones, the ones that still go to church and are
26:36
practicing are pretty much live by rules of Mormonism, but
26:42
they're also trying to elevate women in Mormon in Mormonism as
26:49
a religion. So they're trying to get that,
26:53
that stigma of you have to be like trad wife.
26:56
You have to be a stay at home mom if you're Mormon or married
26:59
to a Mormon. So they are trying to progress
27:03
and move that forward so that women can have jobs and have
27:08
careers. And also they support gay
27:12
people, which I know that the the.
27:15
Doesn't I not get it? Well, they're trying to say that
27:17
they do, but they really don't know.
27:19
We know. That so know that.
27:21
And so they're trying to be more progressive in a lot of
27:24
different areas and those. Are like like the real world.
27:27
No, I'm saying like like Mt VS no Mt VS real world.
27:30
It's like who's sleeping with who?
27:31
That yeah, I struggle. I I I just, I've always, I just
27:35
have always struggled from it's like that's one, I think that's
27:38
one of the reasons why I that's when I was 18 years old.
27:42
I just, I was heavily, you already know, I was heavily into
27:44
the church, yes, you know. Not the Mormon church, but.
27:47
Yeah, not the Mormon church, but but I was I was a junior Deacon
27:51
in in you know, I did not have because I was because I was
27:54
heavy into the church in high school.
27:57
You know, I didn't have relations.
28:00
I didn't even kiss anybody in high school, you know, because I
28:03
was had my little Bible, right, you know, and I'm thumping No.
28:07
And I'm and I'm thumping along, thumping along with my little
28:10
Bible. And then something occurred,
28:14
happened to me that made me leave the church.
28:17
But up until then, you know, I abided by what the expectations
28:22
were of somebody that if you say you're going to church or if
28:25
you're I, I never under OK, I always struggled with that.
28:29
And I, it's all, it's still is a struggle to me today.
28:33
And somebody, I'll even put it out there, somebody that I fell
28:37
in love with a billion years ago, you know, I'm saying a
28:40
billion years ago was the kind of person that would go out on
28:43
Saturday night through whoever, you know what I'm saying, and
28:46
then sit in the Pew on Sunday, You know what I'm saying, acting
28:49
like that, whatever, whatever. You know what I'm saying?
28:53
Nobody's perfect. You know what I'm saying?
28:55
Nobody's perfect. But I, I've never understood.
28:59
I've never understood that. OK, so if you if you profess one
29:03
thing and you don't live by it, then aren't are you, are you
29:06
that, are you that you can say that?
29:09
But well, you would be a hypocrite, which is what we've
29:12
had problems with in religion, Christianity, all the churches.
29:17
But that's what I have a problem with is how hypocritical they
29:21
are. So I so that that is why I quit.
29:27
I quit the church many years ago because I was not going to be a
29:31
hypocrite anymore or I was not going to lie to people.
29:33
I just, I'm just not going to lie to people.
29:34
I woke up, I woke up one day and said I'm just not going to lie
29:37
to people. So now I will, you know, I mean,
29:41
I truly am amazed on people true, true Christians who have
29:46
faith. I have nothing but absolute 100%
29:50
respect for because I, I woke up 1 morning and said, OK, if
29:54
somebody put a gun to my head right now and said, do you
29:57
believe in God or not? You know, saying, I, I can't, I
30:04
can't say one way or another. Now we've talked that I'm an
30:05
agnostic. I'm not an atheist, but I'm an
30:07
agnostic. I can't, I can't, I can't prove
30:09
that he exists and I can't prove that he doesn't exist, right?
30:12
So, so to me, I could not be a liar with a gun to my head
30:16
going, Hey, you, you believe in God or not, you know, and I
30:18
thought, no, I, I don't. So, and people with faith, real
30:22
faith, will take the bullet. Yeah.
30:24
For God, no, for God. So to me that is Christian faith
30:29
to me that that you believe so much in this calling and that
30:35
and to me, for me, I'm telling you, telling you that as a
30:37
compliment. I'm telling you that as a
30:39
compliment, not not derogatory. I'm not, I am not down on
30:43
Christians at all. I am down on hypocritical
30:46
Christian. Don't, don't I?
30:48
You know, and, and you know what you and I both know, Hey, we've
30:54
all fallen. We've all you know.
30:55
It's like, don't, don't look at my closet.
30:57
The skeletons will drop out like a billion of them like.
30:59
But. But we try to get better every
31:03
single day. So the the the sins of my past,
31:06
I don't do today. I just don't, I just don't do
31:08
it. I don't do it, you know, so it's
31:10
one of those things where it's like, so I I'm fascinated by
31:13
your secret lives of Warren wives with, you know why why
31:16
number one, why you watch this show?
31:18
And then are they? They're not trying to be Mormons
31:21
And so why is the title to show Mormons if?
31:22
I just told you why, like I just gave you.
31:25
That's just a little piece of the show right there.
31:27
Like, you know, I love that drama and I know.
31:30
You do so. So have you heard?
31:31
So you know, have you heard the new thing?
31:33
Have you ever heard of with the Mormon?
31:35
Have you ever heard of soaking? No.
31:37
What is that? So hang on a second, because I
31:39
want to make sure I I tell you right So at Brigham Young
31:42
University, when so So Mormons are technically not supposed to
31:46
have sex. Right.
31:49
So. They just, but they could do the
31:52
they could do the back door, not the front.
31:54
Well, yeah, I was. I was going to yes, So, so.
31:58
I'm trying to word the the best I can without anything.
32:01
What's that? I said I was trying to word that
32:04
the best I could without being. Right.
32:07
Yes, yes, yes. So that yes, so that, that
32:12
that's an exciting part of that. OK.
32:14
So, so, so interesting soaking which is going around the the
32:20
campus. Is it it is penile vaginal
32:24
penetration, but you don't thrust allegedly allegedly to
32:28
maintain. Soaking.
32:31
And and allegedly to maintain technical virginity while
32:34
complying with strict LDS chastity rules.
32:37
Also, they said that it is rumored that an accompanying an
32:41
accompanying act with this is a third party shakes the bed to
32:45
create the motion. What, Are you serious?
32:47
Allowing the couple to remain still as described on Reddit so.
32:51
No. So if you're going to bring them
32:53
young university, they. Yeah, wow.
32:56
I have no words. That's just, that's crazy.
32:58
Yeah, it's called frozen humping.
32:59
So they don't move. They don't move, but your best
33:02
friend comes in and shakes the bed.
33:03
Shakes the bed. So anyway, maybe that's maybe a
33:06
little so that that's called that's called soaking so.
33:10
Again, like it. Why?
33:13
So it's kind of the same with certain Jewish face or you know,
33:19
how the women can't show their hair and so they wear wigs.
33:22
So it's it's, it's not really bending the rules, but tricking
33:27
God or what, how whatever you want to call it.
33:30
But to me it's like, why do you even have to?
33:34
That doesn't make sense to me. Like why would you even have to
33:37
do that? Like why are you doing this when
33:41
it it just doesn't make sense to me.
33:43
Like it does not make sense. Like you're trying to trick God
33:46
with wearing this wig. And in Mormonism, you're saying
33:51
that you're not having sex because you're not really
33:53
thrusting. But yet I mean, you are having
33:55
sex. Like this is this is sex.
33:57
Like you don't have to have any of that kind of stuff to be to
34:01
call it sex. So I don't.
34:03
Get I. Don't get it, I.
34:06
Don't. Well, it it, it was so funny.
34:08
There was an interview with Candace, Candace Cameron Burr
34:13
where she talked about, and I think this was this made news
34:15
weeks ago, where she says it's hard for her to have sex with
34:18
her husband because God's watching.
34:20
EW. Well, you know Kirk, Kirk
34:22
Cameron and Candace. And her right are religious
34:25
right? Hardcore, hardcore.
34:26
So we're talking missionary probably the whole time anyway,
34:29
even though, you know, and I, I, hey, I will, I will concur with
34:32
anybody else. We didn't have a crush on
34:34
Candace Cameron. I mean.
34:35
Right. I, I even to this day, I think
34:37
she's a beautiful, beautiful woman.
34:39
I don't know if I'd want to be married to her because you know,
34:41
it's like we're going to do the one way only.
34:44
Right. And you're probably and you're
34:46
probably not getting much of it then.
34:48
Yeah, probably not, because God's watching, you know, so,
34:51
you know, you can't be a filthy whore when God's watching, you
34:55
know, so. So maybe she's the filthiest one
35:00
out there. You don't know.
35:02
You don't know. So I, so I you know, I didn't
35:05
mean to. If I offended anybody, I didn't
35:06
mean to. All I keep saying is I just, I I
35:09
just have yet. Well, so my wife is watching
35:12
this TV show called Heart of Dixie.
35:15
OK? It's called Heart of Dixie.
35:17
I've heard of it but I haven't watched.
35:18
It OK, well, then there's this other show called heartland.
35:22
So I so I hear her watching these shows and it's like, and
35:26
so they're through the entire show.
35:27
Now this is this is TV, not not reality reality TV.
35:33
It's just a drama, right, right. But the entire show, all I hear
35:37
is who's hooking up with who basically, because I can hear it
35:40
upstairs. I can hear, you know, oh, does
35:42
Chad really like you? Hey, did Chad ask you out?
35:44
Are you going to go out? Did you sleep with him?
35:46
So anyway, I hear these shows that she's listening to upstairs
35:49
and I keep thinking, was this heartland?
35:51
Is this heart of Dixie? And and so they're all the same
35:53
kind. They're all the same.
35:57
It's. Yeah.
35:58
Well, she she ran through a couple weeks ago, she ran
36:01
through the entire Beverly Hills 9-O21-O every episode.
36:04
Damn. Yeah, every episode.
36:06
So here I'm hearing about Dylan and Brandon and I'm like, my
36:09
God, I had the hugest crush on Jenny Garth and I'm like and
36:13
then as she was. Didn't.
36:14
Yeah, but as she was playing all 1010 seasons, I could hear it.
36:17
And I'm like, God, how many people did did Kelly sleep with?
36:20
Oh my God. You know, and there's nothing.
36:22
And again, there's nothing wrong with that, but it's just funny
36:24
for TV's sake. You're like, holy cow.
36:28
You know, it's like, you know, I don't know.
36:30
It's one. Yeah.
36:31
So anyway, it's it's. And I asked her.
36:33
I said I said Megan. I said Megan.
36:35
I said I said, what? What's that about these shows?
36:38
Like, is it the drama? What is it that, you know, makes
36:40
you want? You said the drama.
36:42
You said the drama. Right.
36:44
Or for me, it's just like it's mind numbing TV.
36:47
Like I don't have to think. I could just sit there for a
36:49
while and just let it play. But do you think?
36:53
So the girl, what's the girl's name?
36:54
That's going to be the what was going to be The Bachelorette?
36:56
Taylor, Taylor Taylor. Is your opinion changed at all
36:59
about her? As far as?
37:01
Just in general. That she's not crazy.
37:03
Did you even like her? Did you even like her on the
37:05
show? I mean, I she wasn't my
37:07
favorite, but she wasn't my least favorite either.
37:09
Like, she obviously has issues and problems and she's got some
37:14
generational trauma like her dad.
37:16
She only saw her dad once when she was 4.
37:18
So I mean, there's a lot of underlying things.
37:22
But yeah, she definitely has rage problem, anger problem.
37:30
She needs to. And she was one of the swingers,
37:34
which I talked about this. I told you this on another
37:37
podcast when we were talking about.
37:38
The Swingers. Yes, that she was one of the
37:42
original swingers. And that's my only struggle is I
37:48
guess it's kind of like watching an Amish show.
37:50
I guess I expect more of the Amish, you know, now I
37:53
understand breaking Amish, you know, where they go and they
37:56
like, oh, they're 18 years old and they go out in the world
37:57
and, you know, they can do whatever they want.
38:00
No, they can do whatever they want.
38:01
Sodom and Gomorrah. And then they come back and then
38:03
they can decide if they want to be Amish or if they don't want
38:06
to embrace that lifestyle. So, so to me, I, I, I, I guess I
38:11
just struggled because some, some of those in the Christian
38:16
faith like to like to put on errors and be judgmental.
38:22
Yes. So I'm like, so I'm like, how
38:24
can, how can you be judgmental of other people when your
38:28
behavior is the same or even worse?
38:31
Right. That's all that that that,
38:33
that's all. But and, and what?
38:35
And it was funny, when I went to Northwest Nazarene, right out of
38:40
right out of high school, I was still a virgin.
38:42
I, I, I So even going to a Christian college, I hadn't had,
38:46
I hadn't had sex, you know, because remember, I was still, I
38:49
was still thumping. Right.
38:50
I was still thumping away, so and it's A and it's A and as I
38:56
always say, it's a good thing I was thumping away because just
38:58
think about how deadly I could have been in high.
39:00
Oh yeah, so deadly. So deadly with.
39:06
Some something, some people think I'm charismatic, but I
39:10
mean, maybe back, maybe back in, but when I was a better looking
39:12
guy back in the day. I mean, I knew you when you were
39:16
younger, like 26 years ago now. Yeah, yeah.
39:19
So, so yeah, now I'm just an old man, but but some some might say
39:26
I had a personality back in the day.
39:28
So back. Back in the day.
39:31
So, so yeah. So even, so even in college,
39:34
it's hilarious. Even in college I didn't have
39:36
sex. And, you know, I think I went on
39:38
a couple dates and that was it. Now, were other people having.
39:42
I mean, I, I know my roommate. I know my roommate wasn't, you
39:45
know, Stewart, his name was Stewart.
39:47
But I but again, I was always put with the nerds.
39:49
So I. Mean that's that's good.
39:52
That's that's for the best. Yeah, well, it's funny is I've
39:56
so it's always hilarious is so there was this girl in college,
39:59
your name was Amy and she was from Alaska and and she was a
40:04
girl I had a big crush on. Well, she we met, blah, blah,
40:07
blah. And then she got a boyfriend.
40:10
So I was like, OK, hands off on that particular situation.
40:13
And then when I decided to leave college, she'd broken up with
40:17
the boyfriend. Like, well, of course.
40:19
Of course, of course she did. And so.
40:21
That's how it works. That's how it works.
40:23
And so anyway, so we had a big going away party for me.
40:27
And so at least I, you know, I got to say goodbye to Amy and.
40:31
And she came to and she came to the party.
40:33
She came to the party. Yeah, absolutely.
40:34
And she sat right next to me and nothing happened.
40:36
But. But it was.
40:38
And then she wrote me a couple letters.
40:40
I think they're my, I think they're my memory box somewhere.
40:42
So. So anyway, yeah.
40:44
So I could have been, I could have been one of those Mormon
40:46
husbands. You never know.
40:46
Could have been secret. Secret lies of the Nazarene.
40:50
It's called Dad Talk. The dads have their own tick
40:53
tock. It's called Dad Talk.
40:54
Yeah, but they're riding on the coattails of the mom, so don't
40:57
get me started. On that so I so so for me just I
41:03
went to the First Christian Church it's called the disciples
41:05
of Christ so when I went to northwest Nazarene I did not
41:09
realize they don't dance do you realize the Nazarenes don't
41:11
dance they. Don't.
41:13
It's Footloose. Right the footloose.
41:15
No, it was Footloose. No, it was.
41:17
And so and so the hilarity was, I mean, because I had, you know,
41:21
gone to senior prom, junior prom.
41:22
I mean, I, I danced, I mean, as a teenager.
41:25
And then I get to to Footloose. I'm like, what the I get to, I
41:28
go to now it's where it's not ringing.
41:29
Like, yeah, we don't dance around here.
41:31
Just there was no school dances. So we go off campus to go to
41:35
Boise, to go to this club called Clubs, Club Zion.
41:39
To be able to dance. To be able to dance.
41:41
So there, we're already breaking the rules.
41:42
See. Look at that.
41:43
See, you're already, Yeah, it doesn't.
41:46
Again, it doesn't make sense to me if you're just trying to bend
41:49
the rules or try to get around them.
41:50
But they did, yeah. The kids, we'd go, we'd go out.
41:53
And it was really weird because they did have dormitories for
41:57
married couples at Northwest Nazarene because they married so
42:00
young. They married like at 18, you
42:02
know, because you can't can't, you know?
42:05
Can't have sex right? So you got to get married young.
42:08
Yeah, so it was, it was absolutely, it was absolutely
42:10
fat for me. It was absolutely fascinating.
42:13
And and I was in I was in Chapman Hall.
42:16
It's called Chapman Hall. So it's a fun ever to go down to
42:19
to Boise and, you know, go to Northwest Nazarene.
42:23
So it was kind of a, you know, looking back on God, I can't
42:25
believe I did that. So.
42:27
Well, you know, he did a little bit of college, so it counts.
42:30
Yeah, as Megan says, I didn't do any College in her mind, but
42:34
she's like you, you, because when they ask you that, So when
42:36
they ask you that on that like high school, some college, you
42:40
know, grad, you know, a a. So I always stand.
42:43
I put some. I mean, I did a quarter, doesn't
42:46
that count as some, right? Isn't that some college now?
42:49
Megan says. Well.
42:52
Check it too I'm. Like I'm like, what do you mean
42:55
it's? Some college.
42:56
It's some college. Like yes, I decided to be a
42:59
radio DJ. Yeah, yeah.
43:01
We don't have to go to college for that.
43:04
So I did something good for you today.
43:06
What'd you do? Because I know you want to talk
43:07
about Trump, but I only gave us like 10 minutes left.
43:10
I know. Yeah.
43:11
So. There you go.
43:12
Yes, go for it. Get on that which I.
43:14
Didn't even mention didn't even mention the handmaid tale.
43:17
We could talk about the next next week or whatever because
43:20
that's still I can't testament. To tell it's still going on.
43:23
No, it's the testament. So this is the next in this
43:26
series. OK.
43:27
Yes. So they wrapped up the original
43:30
Handmaid's Tale. Well, this is the next book
43:32
actually like. Oh my God.
43:34
That Margaret Atwood wrote. So anyway, yeah.
43:37
But yeah, let's talk about the other crazy reality show, Which.
43:41
Is a white college we might as well mix this all in with the
43:43
religious and being non religious.
43:46
I'm sorry, it's blasphemy. Yeah, I could not.
43:49
I don't. I don't.
43:50
I don't. Yeah.
43:51
When I saw the photo, I was like, what in the world?
43:56
Which he's already he already did the picture of him dressed
43:59
up as the Pope. So I don't this this should not
44:03
have surprised me or anyone else that he did this.
44:06
But then him trying to say like he thought it was him as a
44:10
doctor. I'm like seriously like what,
44:13
what like what what is going on? Like he's he's probably lying is
44:19
what my thought is, is like he's lying or like grandpa needs to
44:24
go to the home, which we already know he needs to go to the home.
44:27
But someone, it's like someone needs to be double checking
44:31
their shit. Like he is posting.
44:33
What in the world? I yeah, I don't, I don't know.
44:38
The memes are hilarious now with the pit, the pit and ER, and
44:42
they're all dressed in in, in those robes.
44:44
It's one of it's one of those things where even for me, I
44:49
think as long as you know me, you've never heard me say, take
44:51
the Lord's name in vain. I may not be, I may not be
44:55
religious, but but I have enough of a foundation that that I
44:58
don't do crazy batshit things with religion, you know, because
45:02
if God is real, you don't want to end up at judgment day.
45:05
And you pop up there and there you are, and there's God, and
45:09
you're sitting there going, hey, sorry.
45:11
He's asking you about these memes, Rick.
45:13
Why did you? Why did you do this meme of you
45:15
as my son Jesus Christ? To attack the Pope, to tell the
45:21
Pope to stay in there like these.
45:22
No, I mean, this is going to make us lose some listers.
45:25
But these bootlickers, you're in a cult, man.
45:28
You're in a cult. And I'm not against Republicans
45:30
at all. I think there's a lot of good
45:31
Republicans out there. But why?
45:33
Why is no one, why is no one stepping in on any of these
45:38
situations? Well, you own the OK, You have
45:40
the House, you have the Senate. And they're all afraid.
45:42
OK, You have you have 36 months left.
45:45
That's it. You do you understand?
45:47
36 months he's gone. Well, and they're going to lose
45:50
the house in No, they're. Gonna I think gonna lose it
45:53
midterm, don't you? Yes.
45:54
So yeah, that's what I mean. In November, they're going to
45:57
lose the House. The Senate is in play now.
45:59
So it's like, shouldn't you be thinking like about yourself at
46:04
this stage of the game? If you're a Republican and
46:07
you're in a district that is close, even some of these
46:10
districts that he won by huge margins, Democrats have won now.
46:15
So I it's like, what are these people thinking is I'm going,
46:20
good God, you are going to lose. Like you have got to, you have
46:24
got to get a spine and break away from him.
46:27
Otherwise you're just ending yourself at this at this point.
46:31
Well. At the end of the day, I mean,
46:32
it really is. It's so crazy if, if Barack
46:36
Obama or if Bill Clinton or just, I mean, just any, anybody
46:42
did these things and then they defend it.
46:44
Oh, he the biggest thing I hate is he's joking.
46:47
Yes, he's not he does not joke. I don't think that man.
46:51
He does not have no time to tell a joke, right.
46:53
He and he doesn't have a sense of humor so.
46:55
Those are the two. He does not.
46:56
No, he is. When he when he put himself up
47:00
as the Pope, he meant it, yes. When he puts himself up as gone,
47:03
he means it, yes. I mean, look at the big arch
47:06
that he's trying to get freaking done.
47:07
It's like, you know, even when the door Dasher, it was
47:10
hilarious. The door Dasher dropped off the
47:12
food. Did you see the outside of the
47:14
Oval Office with that, that shanty gold bull?
47:16
I mean it just. Looks like it's all over, have
47:18
you not? Seen that yet?
47:19
It looks like Rome. It's like what?
47:21
Yes, it's all, it's all over. And it like it's, there's some
47:25
for like The West Wing. There's because Katie Collins,
47:30
Kate Collins, whatever her name is from CNN, she's yeah, she's
47:34
the one that started posting pictures.
47:36
It's been up for a while, like quite a few months.
47:38
And she was posting pictures. And so people on Blue Sky were
47:41
like, oh, they're having to list where things are because he's
47:44
fucking getting lost. That's what people are
47:50
speculating. But yeah, everything he has,
47:54
he's desecrated everything with that cheap ass gold shit that's
47:58
all over the White House so well he wants.
48:01
And and, and again, it's like, why does everything have to be
48:04
in your name? What?
48:05
What I mean, you know. Because here, because of This is
48:08
why because his name is trademarked.
48:11
So he gets paid. So when it's like the Trump
48:15
Kennedy Center, he gets paid. When he wants his name as an
48:19
airport like Trump, whatever airport, he's going to get paid
48:23
like he's he gets paid because his name is branded and so and.
48:28
I look at it and. So he gets paid.
48:30
Yeah, but, but it's like when you win awards, you know what
48:34
I'm saying? They're supposed to be a
48:35
surprise, you know what I'm saying?
48:36
Or like you're supposed to have a body of work where you are.
48:40
Like, if you're going to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
48:43
it's, it's not you. It's not you going and vying for
48:46
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You know.
48:48
Because it's better for that. Someone goes, oh, you're going
48:51
to be in the rock. You know, you get voted in the
48:53
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or whatever it is.
48:55
Your peers recognize you for like your body of work, it's.
48:59
And you and, and they will so, so at the end of the day, if, if
49:04
in, in the end with our presidents, you know, if you've
49:08
done something great or our community leaders or any of
49:10
these people, most of our community leaders, 99.9% are
49:15
selfless in, in the, in service or devotion of service, right?
49:20
And so then they, they get awarded whatever down the road.
49:24
It's like, oh, this is the, you know, so and so part or
49:27
whatever. But you personally don't go out
49:29
and go, this this is the Trump part.
49:32
It's just in poor taste. And then to sit there and I
49:35
mean, that one video where he goes because we can't pay for,
49:38
we can't pay for child care. We can't pay for Medicare,
49:40
Medicaid, because we got a war to fight.
49:42
Yeah. You know, just he continually
49:44
digs himself deeper. And then you've got Mike Johnson
49:47
going up. That's my president.
49:49
Like Mother Humper, I cannot wait till your dumb ass is out.
49:51
Oh my gosh, I know. Yeah.
49:53
And like you touched on the grandma, the DoorDash grandma,
49:57
Yes. And how he tries to ask her
49:59
questions and come to find out, like she's having to DoorDash
50:03
because her husband has stage 4 cancer.
50:06
So it's like she should be at home taking care of her husband.
50:09
We should have healthcare. We should have retirement enough
50:14
that these people can live on it that they're not having to take
50:16
up second jobs as a DoorDash or, or whatever is going on.
50:20
But yeah, I thought that was crazy.
50:22
Plus, everything is public record.
50:24
And so they went and and they dug up her taxes and guess what?
50:27
She doesn't even, I mean, she didn't even make enough money to
50:30
qualify for, you know, for. The no tips, yeah.
50:32
Right, right. Yeah.
50:34
So it, it so it's again, it's one of those things where
50:36
everything and everything's a, you know, and, and a lot of
50:39
people are like, well, how did she be able to walk up?
50:40
Well, of course. Trump It was staged, yes.
50:43
Everything. Everything's staged.
50:44
It's the same thing as putting that the Tesla cars out on the
50:46
front lawn to go, Yes, Elon Musk needs your help.
50:49
Come buy a car. Yeah, it's like it is.
50:51
It's nothing but snake oil. Yeah.
50:53
It's nothing but snake oil and, and people still, you know when
50:58
people say, oh, his approval rate is 33%, it shouldn't even
51:01
be 33%. No, like, who are these people?
51:04
I know I do. They're they're.
51:07
All. I see them all on Facebook.
51:08
They're there. When I see that too, I'm going
51:11
who is who are these 30% that are still hanging on like what
51:16
is wrong with you people like. You are in a cult.
51:19
You're in a cult. I mean we had.
51:21
I have a former Co worker that has now retired and he's taking
51:24
up the Trump flag. And so he's so he's bashing on
51:28
radio listeners and radio people were on his page because he's a
51:31
big Trump supporter and and one person he literally says he
51:34
goes, well, I don't agree with it, blah, blah.
51:36
And he goes leave the country. Now you know me, I was fucking
51:39
take a stand any day on that. It's like I am American.
51:41
I was born here and and I'm not gonna leave just because of your
51:44
your Cheeto orange Hitler. Right.
51:47
You know, I'm saying and, and if you want to know, you know, if
51:49
I'm willing to die for my country on that, absolutely give
51:52
me a gun. And no, I got no problem
51:54
defending our, our great nation from psychotic people.
51:59
You know, really, honestly, that's, that's the most, you
52:01
know, and then and then it's, it's just insane.
52:04
And so for me, it is blasphemy packing the whether I agree or
52:08
disagree with any of that, it's like, you know, you got the, you
52:11
got the complete Catholic Church.
52:13
Really, you're going to go pick a fight with the Pope?
52:14
Right. And you as the president like
52:17
that, that's what again, yes, it's the highest office in the
52:21
land. Like you need to have some
52:23
decency and but I that's never happened.
52:26
So I don't, I mean we shouldn't start back now.
52:29
You know, I think everything that everybody said was going to
52:32
happen has happened to where they all said the second
52:34
presidency was going to be retribution.
52:36
Yes. And it was going to know from
52:37
the first time. Yes, and that's what I think
52:40
again, because the first term he had people around him who were
52:45
telling him, no, you can't not not a good idea, we can't do
52:48
this, blah, blah, blah. And so I think the first term
52:52
would have looked like this term if those people weren't there.
52:56
But now in the second term, those people are not there.
52:59
Those people are the yes men's that I agree with, like Mike
53:03
Johnson, JD Vance, who just became Catholic not that long
53:08
ago. It's like dude.
53:09
But but Judy Vance does the whole thing.
53:11
But JD Vance, oh, he's just kidding.
53:13
He's just kidding. He's just.
53:14
Kidding. No.
53:15
I will never if, if, if if I dislike Trump, I dislike Jaden
53:19
Vance even more. You know why?
53:21
Because JD Vance at least knows what he's doing.
53:23
And JD Vance is a sellout because in the beginning he was
53:26
against him and then now he's like.
53:29
I have a huge list of people that are again against him that
53:31
are in his cabinet. Lindsey Graham was against him.
53:34
Now look at that guy like. Yep, No, no, to me it's like
53:37
never, never in a million years. And and I got no problem at this
53:41
whole this whole, you know, like go to the polls.
53:43
You bet I will. You want to go wait 12 hours at
53:45
the poll. I won't vote for you.
53:47
So, and I'm an American, you know, it's like that.
53:49
So, so I'm for me, I'm like, bring it on voting act, bring it
53:52
on because I will show up to not vote for you.
53:55
Right. But you're a guy, so it's going
53:57
to be easier for US women. No, I get it, but I think.
53:59
If all this stuff right goes into effect, we're going to have
54:03
to prove like if we have our husband's last name, they're
54:06
trying to make it difficult for us.
54:08
I. Know I know they are it's
54:09
ridiculous. I I thought the best piece of
54:12
thing that would so when Trump got re elected, my son Logan,
54:15
who it is his birthday today. So happy birthday, Logan, but
54:17
his birthday Logan. Yeah.
54:19
So one of the things that Logan had said was you and I, dad, are
54:22
going to be fun. And I said, I said, why are we
54:25
going to be fine? He goes well, we're white and
54:26
we're men. White men.
54:28
That's what he said. That's exactly what he said.
54:30
When Trump got reelected, my son called me up out of the blue and
54:33
goes, he goes, we'll be fine, Dad.
54:35
And I said, really? I said, I said Trump's a piece
54:37
of crap. And he goes, well, yeah, but
54:39
we're white and we're mental. All right.
54:42
Is that all? Is that all we have to?
54:44
Off the soapbox. Oh, to say.
54:46
About that. Man, that's kind of a downer
54:48
note, huh? I know I didn't.
54:49
I wanted to, I wanted to ask you about the dude in the Bahamas,
54:52
but like we'll have to save that for.
54:54
The dude in the Bahamas. Yeah, have you not seen that
54:56
story about his wife that is like missing I'll.
55:00
Go research it and come back next.
55:02
Time. Oh, she fell off the dingy.
55:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't get charged, but yeah,
55:07
it's a whole, it's a whole thing.
55:09
Yeah, she's still missing. And he had said they released
55:12
him. They had him in custody for like
55:14
six days or something questioning him.
55:15
They didn't charge him. They released him and he said he
55:18
was going to stay there and look for her.
55:19
Well, now he's left because he says his mother is ill, so he
55:24
had to leave the Bahamas. I don't know.
55:26
They had, she had been saying she was going to leave him prior
55:29
to this. So it's just, yeah, it's shady
55:32
all around. Like like Natalie Wood's shady.
55:35
Yeah, that's like, yeah. Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner.
55:38
Where where she just. Well, she felt a report and.
55:42
Yeah. And never saw Natalie Wood ever
55:43
again, even though her and Robert Wagner, I'm not saying
55:45
that anything happened. I don't really don't know.
55:47
But Robert Wagner, like, never, you know.
55:50
Yeah. But they said that they had
55:51
fought. Yeah.
55:52
And then suddenly she's gone. Yeah, yeah.
55:54
Anyway, that that's the condensed version of that story.
55:57
I just wanted to ask you what you thought, if you thought he
55:59
was guilty, but you don't even know the story so.
56:01
Well, I'll go. I'll go research it, but the
56:03
odds are he is. That's it for today's episode of
56:07
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