Latest / The Bull Brotherhood / Episode 15 - Interview w/ Tina from Splash Mocha
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- 0:00So the next night, I'm sitting in front of the
- 0:01TV doing my homework. Yeah, I would study in
- 0:05front of the TV, always have. I'm doing my homework,
- 0:08studying for my test, and I turn around and I
- 0:11look at him and I said, oh, by the way, I've
- 0:13been thinking. Well, now anytime I use that term,
- 0:15it gets his attention. Laser -focused attention.
- 0:19And he says, yeah, what have you been thinking
- 0:21of? I said, well, you know, I had fun having
- 0:24sex with other guys when I was in high school
- 0:27because... Nobody knew that I did that in high
- 0:30school, but I was very quiet about it. And I
- 0:34think we need to sign up for the whole program.
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- 1:49Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood Podcast, where
- 1:52we talk power, pleasure, and the art of dominance
- 1:55and ethical non -monogamy. This is not your average
- 1:58lifestyle podcast. This is for men who lead,
- 2:02men who master, and men who leave a lasting impression.
- 2:06If you're here, you're not just curious. You're
- 2:09ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,
- 2:13stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.
- 2:17Let's go. Hello, hello, there we go. I am one
- 2:44of three parts of your host team siren we are
- 2:48missing. The Sigma Male, Brian Morgan, as we
- 2:51are live from Splash, and he wasn't able to attend,
- 2:53but I'm here with my husband, Socrates. How you
- 2:57doing, babe? What's good, y 'all? I'm doing good.
- 2:58I'm doing good. And today we have one of... Man,
- 3:03she runs this bitch here at Splash Mocha. We
- 3:06have Tina on today. Hi, Tina. Hello. And she
- 3:09was like, I'm not pulled apart of the brotherhood,
- 3:12but she facilitates this... whole event, and
- 3:17without her, we would not even have a Splash
- 3:19Mocha, so we gotta give it up for Tina, but we
- 3:21wanna hear the inside scoop on dealing with all
- 3:25of the fun stuff inside and out of Splash. Socrates,
- 3:31you gonna be the interviewer today? Yeah. With
- 3:33Brian missing? Yep. Yeah, I'm not as smooth,
- 3:36so I can't be like, so yeah, Tina, what's going
- 3:38on? What you got? No, but... Yeah, Brian, have
- 3:42your panties wet before we even, two minutes
- 3:44in, like... Just with that voice. Yep, yep. Yeah,
- 3:48he's smooth. So, yeah, we love this place. I
- 3:54mean, I remember the first time coming here,
- 3:57I didn't have a lot of great experience, especially
- 4:01with Black men in the lifestyle, in group settings.
- 4:07And so I was really apprehensive. My wife didn't
- 4:12know what to expect. But one thing I really loved
- 4:15is the vetting. They took a lot of time to vet
- 4:17the gentleman and everybody, I think. And I was
- 4:22just like, wow, I didn't know it can be this
- 4:26way. Just everybody respectful. Everybody just
- 4:30mingling and getting along with each other. Not
- 4:33to say there isn't problems, but... It just works
- 4:36smoothly. We're people, right? It just works
- 4:39smoothly. So, you know, so we're just going to
- 4:41kind of just talk about, get to know Tina a little
- 4:43bit and see where it goes and really get into,
- 4:46you know, how Splash Market works and what we
- 4:49love about it. But Tina, talk to us a little
- 4:51bit about, you know, just getting started in
- 4:53the lifestyle. Like, you know. how long you've
- 4:57been in the lifestyle, what got you started,
- 4:59those kind of things. Yeah, because you and your
- 5:00husband have been in it for a minute now. So
- 5:02my husband and I have been in it for just over
- 5:0520 years. It was completely my idea. You whore.
- 5:09I know, I know. But yeah, it was completely my
- 5:13idea. We went to a friend's house. Coincidentally,
- 5:17that day, earlier that day, it was the day after
- 5:19Christmas, I had actually torn my ACL riding
- 5:22four -wheelers. And we went, we had plans to
- 5:26go out with friends. We went out with friends
- 5:28and we went back to their house and we were playing
- 5:30a game called Asshole. Don't ask me how to play
- 5:34it. I don't have a clue. And there was a rule.
- 5:38We got playing and there was a rule that if a
- 5:42jack of any kind was thrown down, the girls had
- 5:45to play topless. So whoever won the last round
- 5:49became president. And so next thing I know, we're
- 5:53topless. And then, you know, there's, I don't
- 5:57know, there's probably two, four, six, eight
- 6:01couple, eight total people. So next thing I know,
- 6:05one thing leads to another. The other girls start
- 6:09playing together and they bring me in. Now, I
- 6:13understand Jeb and I weren't in the lifestyle,
- 6:15really never had heard anything about it. And
- 6:18we... Unfortunately, I was played with, but I
- 6:25couldn't do any playing because my knee was between
- 6:29the size of a volleyball and basketball at that
- 6:32point by that end of the night. Body positivity,
- 6:36guys. Even if you got a big old injury, you're
- 6:38still going to get your pussy ate. It's going
- 6:40to be great. Work around it. You know, we did
- 6:44that the next week. After work, my husband and
- 6:47I, I was going to school. We went out to dinner.
- 6:51Luckily, I was driving because he would have
- 6:53wrecked the truck. I'm driving home, and I said,
- 6:57I went, I've been thinking. And he's like, what
- 7:02have you been thinking? I said, well, you know,
- 7:04over at our friend's house this weekend, you
- 7:07know, I had the girl -girl experience. I think
- 7:11I want to experience a little bit more. So, and
- 7:14he was like. What? That's awesome. You know,
- 7:17all men want to see two girls together. They
- 7:19think that is, you know, that's the best thing
- 7:23ever. I still do. So we go home. I sit down in
- 7:28front of the TV, and I'm working on college algebra,
- 7:30and he's got the laptop in his lap, and he's
- 7:33doing research. So the next night, I'm sitting
- 7:35in front of the TV doing my homework. Yeah, I
- 7:38would study in front of the TV, always have.
- 7:41I'm doing my homework, studying for my test.
- 7:43And I turn around and I look at him and I said,
- 7:46oh, by the way, I've been thinking. Well, now
- 7:48anytime I use that term, it gets his attention.
- 7:51Laser -focused attention. And he says, yeah,
- 7:55what have you been thinking of? I said, well,
- 7:56you know, I had fun having sex with other guys
- 7:59when I was in high school. Nobody knew that I
- 8:04did that in high school, but I was, you know,
- 8:06very quiet about it. And I think we need to sign
- 8:10up for the whole program. And that was it. That
- 8:13was the end of it. And he was like, so I get
- 8:16to play too? I said, yeah. So it's kind of, you
- 8:19know, we started out with rules and things. And
- 8:23then as you stay in it longer, we started to
- 8:26evolve. And so our rules turned into whatever.
- 8:33The other couples rules were so we really didn't
- 8:36have any rules We just kind of went with whatever
- 8:39they chose if they chose to be in the same room
- 8:42Then we were in the same room if they were okay
- 8:44with being separate rooms We were okay with separate
- 8:46rooms and it was just a couple's thing. You know,
- 8:48we didn't know any better There was one lifestyle
- 8:51website that we were on. It's no longer in existence.
- 8:55And we went there. Good God. There was meet and
- 8:59greets and house parties. And every weekend you
- 9:02could get out and go be around people. And that's
- 9:04what we started doing. And, you know, we never
- 9:07even gave it the single guy thing a thought,
- 9:11you know, because you're just learning. You just
- 9:13learn. And, again, it's evolution. Now it's just
- 9:18like mostly we're just kind of, both of us are
- 9:20kind of open. We come to these, we're working
- 9:22the parties, and he's like, hey, I got a date,
- 9:26and he tells me who, and I'm like, have fun.
- 9:29He comes back. I said, you have fun? Yep. You
- 9:31make sure she had fun? He says, yep. That's the
- 9:33end of conversation. And we're like, all right,
- 9:36cool. High five. Yep. That's the extent, but
- 9:41that's where we started. So we've got just over
- 9:4420 years in the lifestyle now. That's awesome.
- 9:46Wonderful. And I work this, and by the way, this
- 9:49is my full -time job. This isn't like something
- 9:51I do on the evening after my day job. This is
- 9:54my day job. I work for Mocha full -time. Nice.
- 9:57Best job ever. And yes, I do have the world's
- 10:00largest little black book. Yes, you do. How many
- 10:06J's do you have in there? You'd be surprised.
- 10:10I don't even exercise that little black book,
- 10:12but I could. I stay so busy. So how did you transition
- 10:16from it being a thing that you guys did to, like,
- 10:19a job? Like, tell us about meeting the other
- 10:22owners. So Wayne and Missy are the owners of
- 10:24Splash Mocha. And they always have been since
- 10:28day one. So we met them at a house party. Oh,
- 10:35God. I guess it's been 13 or 14 years ago. And
- 10:38we just kind of. you know, hit it off, which
- 10:42you do when you're on your knees in front of
- 10:44some guy you just met. He's like, you can be
- 10:48my friend now. So, you know, we kind of hit it
- 10:52off there. And then we just started hanging out.
- 10:56And here and there, it wasn't a whole lot. And
- 10:58next thing I know, there was a club in Coco because
- 11:01I'm originally from, my husband and I are originally
- 11:03from Florida. They were living in Florida. And
- 11:05they invited it to this new lifestyle club. And
- 11:07we went to. We went to the club, and we started
- 11:10hanging out a lot. And they had been trying to
- 11:15get us to go to an event they helped with called
- 11:19Splash Takeovers, which that was well before
- 11:22mocha was ever a little star thought in their
- 11:27brains. A little twinkle in the brain thought.
- 11:29Yeah, a little twinkle. So they've been trying
- 11:31to get us to go to Splash Takeovers. We were
- 11:33always busy. I was scared to death to go to something
- 11:36that huge. And next thing we know, it was on
- 11:41a Tuesday, Wednesday evening after work. Wayne
- 11:43calls and says, hey, we just bought Splash Takeovers.
- 11:47And coincidentally, it was at this very hotel
- 11:50and we just bought it from Dixie. And we would
- 11:54we would we got a couple of rooms available.
- 11:56We'd love for you to come and be our guest. No
- 11:58charge. So Jeb and I said, well, we can't this.
- 12:01We can't just. come for all three days, we can't
- 12:05get off work that quick. We'll be down there
- 12:07as soon as we get off work on Friday. So we drove
- 12:09down here. Jeb and I pretty much hid in our room
- 12:12for the most part. And we'd come down and kind
- 12:17of mix and mingle a little bit. But just like
- 12:19anybody else knew, we were a deer caught in headlights,
- 12:22right? So, you know, we're trying to hang out
- 12:25with Wayne and Missy, but we know that they're
- 12:27busy. So Sunday, We get up, we check out, we
- 12:32put our luggage in the car, and we come back
- 12:34here to look for Wayne and Missy to say goodbye
- 12:36and thank them for giving us a room and, you
- 12:40know, tell them we enjoyed ourselves. And I guess
- 12:42it was about 9 o 'clock in the morning, and they're
- 12:44tearing down. So we, my husband and I, we don't
- 12:49just wait for, be asked, like so many people
- 12:52do, hey, do you mind helping us out? That's not
- 12:54what we do. We just start digging in. Just jump
- 12:57in. We just jump in, start picking shit up, start.
- 13:00helping them load it up and we unfortunately
- 13:03we can only help until noon because my husband's
- 13:06mom had a big family dinner planned at four o
- 13:09'clock that day so we had to haul ass at noon
- 13:12to get back to Brevard County which was a three
- 13:16and a half hour drive so we can get ready for
- 13:19dinner with the family. So we helped at noon,
- 13:23and next thing I know, afterwards, Wayne and
- 13:25Missy, the next time we hang out with them, they
- 13:27said, hey, we'd really like it if you'd come
- 13:29help us at Splash Takeovers the next year, help
- 13:32at registration and stuff. And I'm like, sure,
- 13:34okay. So at that time, they stored all their
- 13:39gear in a storage unit. And he would rent moving
- 13:43trucks, two moving trucks. We unloaded it out
- 13:46of the storage unit, loaded it into a moving
- 13:49truck, drove it. drove them three and a half
- 13:52hours to Fort Lauderdale unload it out of the
- 13:56moving truck set it up and then at the end of
- 13:59the party load it all back up on the moving trucks
- 14:01drive it back to Brevard County unload it into
- 14:05the storage unit because we had to have the trucks
- 14:07back that night Lots of thoughts, lots of work.
- 14:09Sounds like it. Yeah. So then the next year I
- 14:12was helping him. I'm tired just listening. And
- 14:16we, yeah, me too. And we helped him again. And
- 14:20then all of a sudden their daughter was graduated
- 14:26high school. She was starting her first year
- 14:29in college. And they wanted to help her move
- 14:32in. And they had that whole transition. So they
- 14:34chose a hotel in Melbourne. And that's where
- 14:38Splash Mocha was born. They did Splash Mocha
- 14:42that August in an 80 -room hotel. I think it
- 14:45was 80. Might be a little more. Could be a little
- 14:47less. In Melbourne, Florida. And the next month
- 14:51they had it at the same hotel because they needed
- 14:53something a little bit smaller. They needed to
- 14:56be there for her first day, which they left to
- 15:00go to Deland to get her moved into the dorm in
- 15:03the middle of the party. So I'm not I'm not officially
- 15:07working for him. I'm just some dumb friend who's
- 15:10agreed to help them with this event. Because
- 15:12my husband and I used to he used to be a fire
- 15:17chief in our community, volunteer fire chief.
- 15:19And we put on one of Brevard County's largest
- 15:21Christmas parades and barbecues. So we know what
- 15:24it's like to do hard work. And they left kind
- 15:28of left us kind of in kind of sort of unofficially
- 15:31kind of. In charge, but not really. Just keep
- 15:34an eye on things. Call if you need anything.
- 15:36The next year, we had it there. And the year
- 15:38after that, we were back down here. And the first
- 15:42year, they were a little sketchy on it. And Wayne
- 15:44told Missy, let's try it again. Let's try Splash
- 15:47Mocha again. And from that, the next year, it
- 15:50kind of took off. The popularity was amazing.
- 15:53And we moved it to this facility here. And they
- 15:58sold it out that first year. It was definitely
- 16:03quite interesting. And you could definitely tell
- 16:08from the very beginning that it was going to
- 16:10be something special. Yeah. And what was the
- 16:12conversation like, though? Like, how did you
- 16:14guys come up with like this? Hey, there is this
- 16:17need for an event that caters to single men.
- 16:22Right. particularly Black men and people who
- 16:26want to interact with them? What was that conversation
- 16:28like? You didn't just wake up and be like, oh,
- 16:30I should just have an event for single Black
- 16:32men. I think that would be good. What was that
- 16:35conversation like? At Splash Takeovers, they
- 16:36had what they called the chocolate room. So they
- 16:39had a playroom that was the chocolate room. And
- 16:40there's several gentlemen here that were participating
- 16:43in the chocolate room at Splash Takeovers. And
- 16:46the popularity of that room was unparalleled
- 16:50to the rest. And, you know, they took it from
- 16:55there. They saw a need and they were still going
- 16:59to other lifestyle events. And they were noticing
- 17:01that that the guys were kind of getting the shaft
- 17:05per se. No pun intended on that one. Please transfer
- 17:11that to me. No pun intended, but they weren't
- 17:15getting a fair shake in the lifestyle. And even
- 17:17now, they still pay the maximum amount, while
- 17:20single girls, no dinging the single girls, but
- 17:24they get in for free or next to nothing, and
- 17:26then they're charging the couples a very minimal
- 17:28amount. And the single guys are $100, $150, $200.
- 17:33I hate that. There's no party without a dick.
- 17:35Exactly. I'm like, let the single guys in for
- 17:39free. Fire ruled the world. So that's where the
- 17:43concept came from, is they saw how popular that
- 17:48room was, and so they started doing a little
- 17:51research, and then they had Splash Takeovers,
- 17:56and then the name Splash Mocha came up because
- 17:59it was going to be catered to couples, and specifically
- 18:02single black men, but we don't discriminate.
- 18:05It's open to all men as long as they go through
- 18:08the vetting process and they're a good fit. They
- 18:10may have to work a little harder than you or
- 18:12Socrates or you or you. And that's what I tell
- 18:17them when they call. I'm like, hey, we don't
- 18:18discriminate. You're more than welcome, but you're
- 18:21not going to be top of the menu. And those are
- 18:25the words I use. You may have to work a little
- 18:27bit harder, but don't be offended. You can't
- 18:30be offended if a woman says, hey, you're just
- 18:34not my type. Because some of them are specific
- 18:37to single black men. You just say, thank you
- 18:41very much. I enjoyed talking to you. Move on
- 18:44to the next couple because that woman might say
- 18:46yes. So that's how we handle it. And we got a
- 18:49couple of several guys that come. They can't
- 18:52come to every party, but they have a great time.
- 18:54And they get laid just as much as the next guy.
- 18:58So, you know, it is open. But they all still
- 19:01have to go through all the same vetting process,
- 19:03everybody else. If they don't make that cut,
- 19:05we don't have a problem saying, I am so sorry,
- 19:07but you're not going to be a good fit for the
- 19:08event. One of the things that I love, like I
- 19:12said, when I first came here, I had some really
- 19:15bad experiences in the lifestyle when it comes
- 19:18to going to events where they cater to single
- 19:21black men. And I'll just say this, coming from
- 19:25California and the community I am, this is not
- 19:29about all black men, what I'm about to say. This
- 19:31is not most black men. And this is not the lifestyle
- 19:35in general. This is my experience in Los Angeles.
- 19:39I come from gang culture. That's another thing
- 19:42I'm going to add. So when I say this, I'm going
- 19:44to make that clear. But I kind of ran into that
- 19:46it ain't no fun unless the homies can have some
- 19:48type of shit. You know, like that I'm going to
- 19:51run a train on a bitch type of thing. And I was
- 19:54really concerned about that because I wasn't
- 19:56having that with my wife. You ain't treating
- 19:57my wife that way. But what I was really impressed
- 20:00with, what I think is incredible, is the bedding.
- 20:03The gentlemen here are professionals. You get
- 20:06people that are highest security clearance people
- 20:12in any kind of industry, military, businessmen,
- 20:17every type of gentleman, but they're respectful.
- 20:21They know how to approach your wife. Us being
- 20:25stag, vixen couple, I'm concerned about how you
- 20:28approach me. How do you approach us as a couple?
- 20:30How do you approach my wife? My question to you,
- 20:33Tina, is how did you guys get the vetting down
- 20:36so well? I know, you know, people slip through
- 20:40the cracks, right? But how did you guys get the
- 20:43vetting down so well? So, you know, they have
- 20:46to call me first. They have to talk to me. And
- 20:49I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a pretty
- 20:52good judge of character. I can read people pretty
- 20:55damn quick, even over the phone. And, yeah, I
- 20:58mean, I'm not perfect. And, yes, some guys know
- 21:02how to walk the walk and talk the talk and say
- 21:04the right words to get through. And then eventually
- 21:08they will catch themselves because they won't
- 21:12act right and will weed themselves out. So, you
- 21:14know, the old saying, trash just took itself
- 21:16out. But they do have to talk to me. They have
- 21:20to get through me first. And then I will send
- 21:23a text to Dimitri. That gentleman is in that
- 21:25text, and it's an introduction, and then they
- 21:28get to talk to Dimitri. Now, I'm pretty tough,
- 21:31but Dimitri is even tougher. So out of every
- 21:3410 guys that call, two make it through. So, you
- 21:39know, he is all about you've got to respect yourself
- 21:42first. And if you start calling him, you talk
- 21:47to me as a professional, and you're on the up
- 21:50and up, and you get Dimitri on the phone, and
- 21:51you start talking like... you know, your brother's
- 21:54in the hood, he shuts them down. He's like, you
- 21:57know, you don't know me. You don't talk to me
- 21:59like that. You're not respecting yourself. You're
- 22:01not respecting me. And you're not going to go
- 22:03to Splash Mocha talking to the other guys like
- 22:05that because that's not what we're about. So
- 22:10he's pretty tough. He's a pretty tough nut to
- 22:12get through. And between the two of us, I think
- 22:15we do a pretty good job. I might send a guy to
- 22:18him in a text, but on the outside, I'm sending
- 22:20him another text going, hey, I'm not too sure
- 22:23about this guy. It was like pulling a saber -toothed
- 22:27tiger's... Tooth out to get him to answer my
- 22:31questions and get him to talk and I tell him
- 22:34I don't know if he was just shy because he's
- 22:36talking to a female and He's a little uncomfortable
- 22:39or he might be just a little too young And just
- 22:43doesn't know how to communicate and so Dimitri
- 22:46will feel him out and sometimes They're they
- 22:49were just nervous to talk to me And he's like,
- 22:52nope, they're a good guy. And then there's other
- 22:54times he's like, yeah, he has the social skills
- 22:57of a gnat. Or when we talk to him about it on
- 23:01his podcast with us. He was like, yeah, and if
- 23:04they send me a dick pic, I'm like, meh. Here,
- 23:08I got a big dick. Let me in. Yeah, I get those
- 23:12pictures, too. I have had, over the years, I'll
- 23:16just open an email, and it's a dick pic, and
- 23:18it's like, would I make the cut to come to Splash
- 23:21Mocha? And they don't include the name. They
- 23:25don't include a phone number, and it's just the
- 23:27dick pic, and that's all it is. I say hello.
- 23:30If you can't ask me general questions, I do not
- 23:36appreciate random unsolicited dick pics to come
- 23:40through my email. I'm a professional person.
- 23:42I am so sorry. I do not feel like you're a good
- 23:45fit for the event. If this is how you're going
- 23:47to present yourself right out of the gate, I
- 23:49wish you lots of luck in your lifestyle endeavors.
- 23:52Sincerely, Tina. And then they'll try to, oh,
- 23:55I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't answer the questions
- 23:57after that. I don't answer any more emails after
- 24:00that. You will go on the wall of shame at Splash
- 24:03Mocha corporate with your dick pic up on the
- 24:05wall and we throw darts at it. I try to deflate
- 24:11that thing like a voodoo doll. May you have ED
- 24:17for the rest of your life. Because you don't
- 24:20know how to handle yourself anyway. But I've
- 24:23had single females do the same thing. Send me
- 24:25a naked photo of themselves. I can see their
- 24:27tonsils from between their legs. I'm like, they
- 24:30get the same goddamn email. I don't want to see
- 24:32that at 8 .16 in the morning. Y 'all should see
- 24:38her, babe. There's not enough coffee or even
- 24:41Irish coffee for that. Oh, my goodness. Maybe
- 24:49there's some sort of drug that will erase my
- 24:51memory. I'm not to remember what I saw. But sometimes
- 24:55there's still wax on it from when they went to
- 24:57the wax. I had Drusillian wax from the day before.
- 25:00I'm not lying. That's a true story. Are you serious?
- 25:03I am dead serious. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.
- 25:07Another thing they do that really impressed me,
- 25:10and I'll never forget. Tina, so it's not just
- 25:15a place where you come and fuck everywhere. There
- 25:18are a lot of classes here. There are a lot of
- 25:21things that you can come to to ask questions,
- 25:26for them to educate you on how it works. And
- 25:30one of the things that is required, it's mandatory,
- 25:32is that all single men go to a meeting. And at
- 25:37that meeting, they'll go over. some of the fundamentals,
- 25:41and then they let the vets get up and put you
- 25:44on game. And I love that. So talk to us about
- 25:48that. What sparked that? Is that something you
- 25:50first thought of in the beginning? And you said,
- 25:53we got to let these men know how to conduct themselves
- 25:57and how to approach and how to, you know, from
- 26:02the registration to leaving here. Is that something
- 26:05that came up in the beginning? Yes, it's been
- 26:08a part of Splash Mocha since day one. What it
- 26:11does, it helps the guys be accountable to each
- 26:15other. It creates a culture and brotherhood amongst
- 26:18the men. They're our first line of defense. We
- 26:23can't get the couple's undivided attention, but
- 26:25we have the guys' undivided attention. And it's
- 26:28a way for us to separate Splash Mocha from the
- 26:32rest of the parties. And it works. And a lot
- 26:36of the guys don't like coming because they've
- 26:38been coming since. They've come to 15 parties,
- 26:41and it's the same, same, same. But we still make
- 26:45it a requirement. I don't care if you've been
- 26:47to all of them. You still need to go. It might
- 26:49be the same information, but we also throw in
- 26:52more information that you've not heard of. And
- 26:55we try to make them aware of things that are
- 26:58going on because we do protect the single guys
- 27:01at our event. After all, it's the couples are
- 27:04coming for the single men. And it's an hour of
- 27:07their time. Not even that. This time we wrapped
- 27:10the meeting up in 35 minutes. So we get out as
- 27:14much information as we can. And they even get
- 27:18a chance. We open the floor up for their peers.
- 27:22to talk to each other and to throw out their
- 27:24ideas and to talk. And so they're just not hearing
- 27:28it from us. Don't do this. Clean up the playrooms.
- 27:31Don't throw your condoms on the floor. Put them
- 27:32in the trash can, blah, blah, blah. Clean up
- 27:34after you get done having sex. They're hearing
- 27:37from their peers, from the guys that are witnessing
- 27:41what's going on in another guest room, in the
- 27:44playrooms. So you've really got that. So we do
- 27:47turn the floor over so they can. Go, okay, guys,
- 27:51you guys got to start doing this. And they kind
- 27:53of take heed a little bit better from the guys
- 27:56randomly talking about this is what I've seen
- 28:00and everything. It does create a great camaraderie
- 28:03amongst the guys, and they hold each other accountable.
- 28:08And what we say in the meeting, they'll be in
- 28:10the playroom. And one guy will tap his friend
- 28:14on the shoulder and say, here, you forgot to
- 28:16put down a clean sheet you just got done playing
- 28:18on. Right. Or, hey, you just dropped your used
- 28:21condom on the floor. You may want to pick it
- 28:23up. So that's what it's for. And then the guys
- 28:25will, as they play with couples in the playrooms
- 28:27and they get up from playing, the guys will politely
- 28:32ask the couples, hey, would you mind helping
- 28:35me throw this clean sheet on the... Exactly.
- 28:38On the bed. So now it's trickling down into the
- 28:41couples to help keep after. Put a clean sheet
- 28:45on the bed after you're done playing so then
- 28:47the next person can come up because you just
- 28:49laid down on a clean sheet. Now some of the playrooms
- 28:51that by the end of the night get so busy that
- 28:53they're not even worried about playing on sheets.
- 28:56They're just playing on the mattress. It's like,
- 28:59hey, I've got to handle that. It matters a lot
- 29:02of money or that's not going to be fun. But,
- 29:07yeah, they they it's it's a it's a positive thing.
- 29:11And we try to keep it upbeat and positive. And
- 29:13and I think we will continue doing the meeting
- 29:18because it's a way for us to get really good
- 29:19information out there. And look, gentlemen, Tina
- 29:23will lay down the fucking law. So don't get it
- 29:26twisted. It's very positive. But she will straighten
- 29:29anything out. Dimitri gets up there and we have
- 29:32some other gentlemen that we know, Mr. Mocha.
- 29:35He'll get up there and straighten you out. And
- 29:37if you've seen these guys, you would definitely
- 29:39not want to challenge them about any of it. The
- 29:42Lion is another one that will do it, too. Yep.
- 29:45One of the times, I think it was probably our
- 29:47fifth or sixth time we came, Tina came to me
- 29:50and said, Socrates. You're married. Why you keep
- 29:54coming? You don't have to come. And I'm like,
- 29:58you don't understand. They put me up on so much
- 30:00game. I learned so much every single time. One
- 30:04of my favorite things that they came up with,
- 30:06I think it was here the first time I heard it,
- 30:08was Shot Clock. And for those that don't know,
- 30:13you know, when you're in a group setting. Or,
- 30:17you know, whether you're playing or just out
- 30:19in, you know, the bar area or talking to someone.
- 30:23Sometimes, you know, let's say you're just meeting
- 30:26someone and you're a male and you're going up
- 30:29to a couple and you're talking. You're not reading
- 30:32the body language. You're not reading the room.
- 30:35You're not looking at how they're interacting.
- 30:38You're just talking and talking and talking.
- 30:40and there's another guy there he's looking he's
- 30:42been checking that woman out for a long time
- 30:45and he wants to go and so a lot of the gentlemen
- 30:49were complaining hey man you guys are up there
- 30:50talking to this girl for an hour and she was
- 30:53you know you know her her body was facing the
- 30:55other way earning away from you and she just
- 30:58You know, every time another guy comes along,
- 31:01she's like, hey, how you doing? What's up? You
- 31:03know, you know, and so trying to get this gay
- 31:06pie. Right, right. Come get me, you know. And
- 31:09so we came up with Shot Clock, which means if
- 31:13you see another brother out there talking to
- 31:15a couple and it's been a while, the guy might
- 31:20come and say, hey, man, whispering, hey, Shot
- 31:21Clock, brother. That lets you know, hey, man,
- 31:24you know, you got to get, you know. Wrap it up.
- 31:26Wrap it up. Start your closing argument on why
- 31:29you should be selected, right? And I just love
- 31:34that because, you know, I've got advice from,
- 31:37hey, man, you know, you had a really passionate
- 31:39session and you're ready to go back down and
- 31:41put some lemon juice on it, you know, so you
- 31:43can really get it. I've heard, you know, just
- 31:45great advice. And I love that because. Self -policing
- 31:50is the best. When you have your peers, like Tina
- 31:53said, telling you. When you have so many brothers
- 31:55here. good -looking brother, 6 '2", 6 '5", 6
- 31:59'8", 250 pounds. He knows how. He's smooth. And
- 32:04that guy's saying, hey, some of these are the
- 32:06things that we do to make the experience better
- 32:09for everyone. And you have all these other brothers
- 32:12saying, hey, man, you keep doing this stuff and
- 32:14messing up my opportunity here at Splash, some
- 32:16of the best places I've ever been, I'm going
- 32:19to talk to you. And that kind of self -policing
- 32:22really makes it to where I feel... better here
- 32:26than any other place to let my wife do her thing.
- 32:31Before we get on to some of the other questions,
- 32:34we have audience members here. Does anybody want
- 32:36to come up and ask questions about Splash or
- 32:39anything in particular? No? I need you to go
- 32:43to the single men meeting and smile at them and
- 32:45let them know that it's okay. Because still seven
- 32:49splashes in, I'm like, okay, maybe smile at them
- 32:52a little bit so they're not like, oh, can't go
- 32:54up to her. I have a very special memory, though,
- 32:58from the men's meeting. Was that our first one?
- 33:03I don't know if that was a men's meeting or a
- 33:07different seminar. Oh. You're talking about how
- 33:10you got your name? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if
- 33:14that was a men's meeting. I think that was a
- 33:15seminar. Oh, because there was couples in there.
- 33:17Yeah. Yeah, but Pup Pulse can still come to the
- 33:19men's meeting. It's just me. Okay, what was his
- 33:23seminar on then? He was, like, going to all the
- 33:25classes. Yeah, I was. Okay, well, I feel less
- 33:28guilty than if it was in the men's meeting because
- 33:30I had a single man occupied two ballrooms away
- 33:35for that meeting, and apparently I was being
- 33:40very loud. and Michael C. was running that meeting,
- 33:43and he was like— Oh, he was doing his—he was
- 33:46probably doing his seminar while he was in it
- 33:49because Michael C. doesn't run the meetings.
- 33:51Dimitri and I do. Yeah. So he—I mean, unless
- 33:53he was in there making comments, so he had to
- 33:56be doing his seminar. Well, if there was couples
- 33:58in there. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. I
- 34:00don't feel so bad now because all these years
- 34:01I'm like, oh, I took this single guy away from
- 34:04the important meeting. And so I was being really
- 34:08loud, I guess. And then Michael C. was like—
- 34:10What did he say, babe? He said... Well, so we
- 34:13were... Yeah, we were in one of the rooms at
- 34:19that time where, you know, Michael C. was giving
- 34:22his seminar. And right next door, there's...
- 34:27No, it was two ballrooms away. No. It was two
- 34:29ball... I was two ballrooms away. Oh, yeah, you
- 34:31were, you were. It was a waste. So we were, you
- 34:33know, I was in there listening, and you kept
- 34:36hearing these screams and moans. and yelling
- 34:40and all of that kind of stuff. And after a while,
- 34:45he stopped the meeting. Yeah, he was like, what
- 34:49is that going on? He's like, this is what Slash
- 34:53Oka is all about. It was in Atlanta. Was it?
- 34:56No, no, it was Houston. It was our second Houston.
- 34:59Yeah. Okay. It was our second Houston. And then
- 35:03he's like, this is what Splash Mocha is all about.
- 35:06And then he's like, oh, sorry, everybody. I think
- 35:09that belongs to me. Yeah. Yeah. I said, my bad.
- 35:14That's my bad. And then they tried to start again.
- 35:16And there was and it was just so noisy, I guess.
- 35:19And then Michael was like, sounds like a siren
- 35:21or something. So then that's how I got my name.
- 35:24And so that guy, he didn't know until like two
- 35:27years later. That that's how I got my name. And
- 35:30so now he's like, you know, Siren, that was me.
- 35:34Because, I mean, we can hear it over the, you
- 35:37know, because there's walls that separate each
- 35:39ballroom. And we can hear it over so much that
- 35:43he had to keep, you know, sorry about that, guys.
- 35:45You know, he was like, she's enjoying herself.
- 35:48So, yeah, it was nice. It was nice. No turning
- 35:51back. Tina, talk to me about some of the really
- 35:57fun times. You have a story of one of the funniest
- 36:02or fun things that you've seen since you started
- 36:05Splash, something that maybe the people hearing
- 36:08it won't be too embarrassed about. How do you
- 36:11put me on the spot? I can't think of anything
- 36:13off the top of my head right now because every
- 36:17event is different. Man, honestly, I can't come
- 36:22up with anything, but there's just so many. I
- 36:25don't know if I could pick out just one other
- 36:28than any funny things, other than I can't think
- 36:32of anything. Of course, I'll think of five of
- 36:35them. We'll do a post one. You can call us, and
- 36:41then we'll put it back in. You wake up in the
- 36:44middle of the night. Yeah, no, when I get a chance
- 36:48to go to bed. I'm out. There's no, hey, Jeb,
- 36:52come over here and service me. No. It's like,
- 36:54don't even breathe in my direction. I'm going
- 36:58to bed. I got a long day tomorrow. How has Splash
- 37:03Mocha evolved, if it has? Like, you know, if
- 37:07you listen to the podcast, Brian Morgan loves
- 37:09the word evolution. He loves talking about how
- 37:12things evolve. So you guys had this vision, or
- 37:17Wayne and Missy had this vision of Splash Mocha,
- 37:20and they saw it grow and they saw it could be
- 37:23what it could be. How has it evolved since? Because
- 37:26this is what, your 10 -year anniversary, right?
- 37:2810 -year anniversary. 10 -year anniversary. So
- 37:30congratulations for putting something together
- 37:34for that long. For both of us, we both have experience
- 37:38in events, not in the lifestyle, but outside
- 37:41of it. And we know how hard it is to run a well
- 37:45-run event the way this is. I mean, when you
- 37:48guys come here, you see it's completely done
- 37:54up. So before you even get into the hotel, there's
- 37:57security staff out there checking to see if you're
- 38:01even on the list. What I love about the lifestyle
- 38:03is I like to get freaky as fuck, but if you're
- 38:05vanilla, I don't like people seeing that. Because
- 38:09even when I'm on the streets, I don't want to
- 38:12see any of that. So when you pull in, they're
- 38:14going to double check, number one, that you're
- 38:16supposed to be here. And number two, you ain't
- 38:17bringing your kids, you know. Some Wednesday
- 38:23nights in Houston have been a little awkward
- 38:25in the lobby. And then, you know, when you come
- 38:29in, it is well decorated. The registration is
- 38:34right there. Things are covered. So even if you
- 38:36get past security, you're not seeing anything.
- 38:39But how has it evolved to the sense that, you
- 38:42know, you started off with certain things that
- 38:44every lifestyle hotel takeover has set up and
- 38:48they need to do, and then as it is now, what
- 38:51are the things that's changed or gotten better
- 38:53or moved that you feel like is giving people
- 38:56better experience? Well, for one, the dance floor.
- 39:00We used to use, the hotel used to set up the
- 39:02dance floor now. Wayne and Missy have purchased
- 39:05a... beautiful led lighted dance floor for everybody's
- 39:09experience um we've got the led lighted stripper
- 39:12poles they were once a metal frame with plywood
- 39:15on it and um a conduit electrical conduit painted
- 39:20black and um which was which was fine next to
- 39:23the parquet floor that the hotel put down well
- 39:26then he bought the beautiful led lighted dance
- 39:29floor and it's like hmm now it just looks like
- 39:33Trailer trash. So then because of me, he upgraded
- 39:37the stripper poles. When they started, it was
- 39:40basically a speaker on a stick for the DJ. And
- 39:44DJ Rockin' Ronnie is our production manager.
- 39:50He's been in the lifestyle for years, and he
- 39:52pretty much does nothing but lifestyle events
- 39:55as a DJ. And he would bring all the equipment.
- 39:58And all the DJ equipment. And then Wayne and
- 40:03Missy started purchasing the equipment as Splash
- 40:06Mocha grew. They're very good at reinvesting
- 40:09back into the company. The tablecloths here in
- 40:14the ballroom that we're sitting in all say Splash
- 40:17Mocha. All the way down to the trash cans. We
- 40:21bring in our own trash cans. And they have Splash
- 40:24Mocha trash can liners that go on them. So everything's
- 40:26branded and labeled. All the pipe and drape,
- 40:30you know, we bring in all the mattresses. Nice.
- 40:33You know, and those mattresses have even evolved.
- 40:36In the beginning, he had went out and bought
- 40:39mattresses from a hotel that was closing. And
- 40:42he brought those. And that's what we would lug
- 40:45around. Let me tell you what. Have you ever tried
- 40:47to pick up a king -size mattress on your bed?
- 40:50That's like, first of all, they're fucking heavy.
- 40:53Excuse me for my language. Secondly, they're
- 40:56like a damn wet noodle. They just got a mind
- 40:59of their own. So those were a bitch to move and
- 41:03pack and stack and all the grossness on them
- 41:06after trying to load them in the trailer. Crusties.
- 41:11Yeah, and I'm trying to, I've got to hold them
- 41:13back so they can get the next one in. I'm the
- 41:15one that's kind of stuck to them. There were
- 41:18times I thought they were just going to close
- 41:20the trailer on me and keep me between the matches.
- 41:23You know, kind of like Princess and the Pea.
- 41:26And now the mattresses that they have, they're
- 41:29box spring mattress all in one. They bought the
- 41:33bed frames that go with them. They fold up like
- 41:36a transformer. So we bring in all the mattresses,
- 41:39all the pipe and drape. Everything, when you
- 41:42come to Splash Mocha, everything you see belongs
- 41:45to Splash Mocha. The only thing the hotel provides,
- 41:49they do normal hotel stuff, is they set the table
- 41:52and chairs in the ballroom. We do everything
- 41:55else. We set the playrooms. We set the pipe and
- 41:58drape. We put all the decorations on. We do all
- 42:01the DJ equipment. Everything you see is Splash
- 42:05Mocha. And I'm part of the setup crew. I'm also
- 42:07part of the teardown crew. I just don't take
- 42:09everybody's reservations, answer text messages,
- 42:11phone calls, emails, and just general questions.
- 42:14I'm in those trailers sweating with the men and
- 42:18doing setup. They went from moving trucks. Like
- 42:23we said at the top of this podcast, he now has
- 42:27upgraded it to two 51 -foot enclosed trailers
- 42:31that are custom built. Nice. And two freight
- 42:34liners that pull them all. And we get a lot of
- 42:37people that say, when are you coming to California?
- 42:40Because of that, and it's Wayne, the owner, he
- 42:43drives one of the trucks and trailers. His son
- 42:45drives the other one. And I'm usually as a passenger
- 42:49in one of those trucks. whether we're coming
- 42:52down here, whether we're going to Houston. Houston's
- 42:54a two -day travel event for us just to get there
- 42:56and a two -day travel event just to get back.
- 42:59So all of that has evolved. So now there's no
- 43:01more unloading everything into a storage unit.
- 43:04Everything lives in the trailers. So all that's
- 43:08evolved. We have all of our rules on, we call
- 43:12them A -frames. They're kind of like a sandwich
- 43:15board, but soft -sided. And so this way nobody
- 43:18can say, well, I didn't know the rules. Well,
- 43:21there's an A -frame with all the rules probably
- 43:23every 12 feet, especially in a lobby. So when
- 43:26somebody is taking a photo in the hotel and it's
- 43:30not in a designated photo backdrop, they're like,
- 43:32oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know the rules. I point
- 43:36probably to six wards that have the rules on
- 43:41them. It's the fourth one down from the top.
- 43:44There's your rules. Is that in the vetting, though?
- 43:47A reading test? I have come to the conclusion,
- 43:51because I have not been officially working for
- 43:53Splash Mocha for the 10 years. Two years of that,
- 43:56I was just helping my friends. For eight and
- 43:59a half years, I have been officially working
- 44:01full -time for Splash Mocha. And I have come
- 44:04to the conclusion, swingers can't read. That's
- 44:09what we're going to name this podcast, Swingers
- 44:11Can't Read. Maybe we're just too drunk by this
- 44:13time. That or the horniness is like those rose
- 44:20-colored glasses, you know? It's like beer goggles.
- 44:23The horniness is beer goggles. If it's not a
- 44:25dick, I can't see it. Exactly. I think that's
- 44:29the problem. They've got their horny goggles
- 44:33on. What's the total manpower it takes? Total
- 44:37manpower. Okay. The question is the total manpower.
- 44:40How much total manpower does it take for Splash
- 44:42Boca? Right. So we have, there could be last
- 44:46month in July, we only had nine people to do
- 44:52all the setup. This time we're probably at about
- 44:5612 people. I mean, that's not that many people
- 45:00to do that. You know, the ones that lead it up
- 45:03is Wayne, me, and Jeb. And we... Get it done.
- 45:08Get it unloaded, and everybody pitches in and
- 45:12does what they're supposed to do. But, yeah,
- 45:13that's all we have. We don't have roadies. We
- 45:17have single guys who have volunteered to help
- 45:20doing set -up and tear -down. Set -up and tear
- 45:23-down is not easy. It sucks. It hurts, especially
- 45:26on Sunday for tear -down when a lot of them have
- 45:28been up all night long. My husband's one of them.
- 45:30He'll go to bed tonight around 630, 7 o 'clock,
- 45:33and he's back up at 130. Because the ballroom's
- 45:37got to be torn down at 2. The ballroom, the dance
- 45:40closes at 2. Playrooms close at 3 a .m. So he'll
- 45:43stay up all night. And he'll get this all torn
- 45:47down. The LED screens will get torn down. The
- 45:49dance floor gets all torn down. Everything has
- 45:51to come down. And then they start opening all
- 45:53the air walls and tearing the rest of it down.
- 45:56So, and then I come down in the morning. And
- 45:58I get down here about 6 .30, quarter of 7. And
- 46:01we start. And we're usually torn down by noon.
- 46:04Noon, 1 o 'clock. And closing the trailers. And
- 46:08we do it with very little. Question was, how
- 46:14many would you prefer? Well, we don't want too
- 46:17many because then you got a lot of people standing
- 46:19around and they're half -assed doing their job.
- 46:24You don't want too little either. So, you know,
- 46:27I would say 10 to 12 is probably about the maximum
- 46:30because. You also don't want things just thrown
- 46:35and tossed around. Everything's got to be handled
- 46:37a certain way. That's how we keep everything
- 46:39nice, and we try to stress that. So you get too
- 46:43many people. It's like a baker. Too many fingers
- 46:46in the pie, you're going to screw it up. So I
- 46:49would say 10 to 12 is probably our optimal number
- 46:52of folks, and we've got quite a few of the guys
- 46:55on the team that know what to do. They've done
- 46:57it enough, and we could start setting up rooms.
- 47:02We could get a couple rooms going at the same
- 47:04time with a piping drape and getting those frames
- 47:06up. But, yeah, it's definitely a well -oiled
- 47:12machine, and there's always room for improvement.
- 47:16So, but, yeah. He said lube makes everything
- 47:21better. That's what I was going to say. I was
- 47:23like, don't you mean lubed machine? So what's
- 47:28the future of Splash? What are you guys looking
- 47:31forward to? Is there any plans you have in the
- 47:34future, or is it just to keep it going and keep
- 47:36it running tight? Well, as you guys, as everybody
- 47:40in this room knows, one, we run a tight ship.
- 47:46We not only, as Splash Mocha staff, do we tow
- 47:49the line, but we ask our guests to tow the line.
- 47:52We keep it professional and classy, and we strive
- 47:55for excellence at each and every party, okay?
- 48:00Now I forgot your question. No, I love all that.
- 48:03No, that's the character of Splash. What's the
- 48:06future like? What are you guys looking forward
- 48:08to? So now I remember where I was going with
- 48:11that. So we do all that, and the future is, you
- 48:15know, we want to keep it going because when you
- 48:19sit down and think of it, Splash Mocha is really
- 48:21larger than all of us. So, yes, we want to keep
- 48:24it going. And I know Wayne and Missy, they're
- 48:26wanting to grow it just a little bit more. And
- 48:29that's just a matter of timing. The right city,
- 48:32the right state, the right hotel, the right everything.
- 48:36It's just got to be right. So they're looking
- 48:38to grow it eventually into maybe another city
- 48:41or two. Not out west because logistically that
- 48:45would be a nightmare. We would be gone if we
- 48:47went to Las Vegas or even out to California.
- 48:50Just the fact that we would be gone 30 days.
- 48:55from our homes and families for that event. As
- 48:58it is, we get to the event a week early. And
- 49:02if we're going out to Houston, that's a two -day
- 49:05travel. And the reason we get out a week early
- 49:08is in case we have any mechanical failures. One
- 49:11year, we were driving out to Houston. We were
- 49:13five and a half hours from the house. And in
- 49:16one, not the freight liners, they were using
- 49:18a dually. The transmission cut loose and broke.
- 49:21You can't fix transmission on the side of the
- 49:24road. Right. So we still got into the hotel the
- 49:28day we were planning to. We got it worked out.
- 49:30We got a place to store that truck. We were just
- 49:33west of Birmingham for that week, and Wayne and
- 49:37Missy worked it out, and we got on site about
- 49:41four hours later than we were supposed to, but
- 49:43we got there. So that's why we go out so early.
- 49:47is if we have issues. And we also like getting
- 49:49there to start meeting with the hotel, getting
- 49:51all the ducks in a row, making sure everything
- 49:53is in line, making sure the hotel doesn't need
- 49:56anything. So, you know, if we were to go that
- 49:58far, we would have to leave a week before we
- 50:02need to be there. Then we're there a week before
- 50:04the party. Then you have the party. Then we have
- 50:07another travel of a week, not to mention the
- 50:11wear and tear on the tires, the trucks, food.
- 50:14You got to feed us all. hotel stay wayne only
- 50:17drives six to eight hours so he can keep everybody
- 50:20safe there's a look at how many hotels are putting
- 50:23in teeny tiny little parking lots there's not
- 50:26many hotels that will accommodate a semi a semi
- 50:30truck let alone two semi trucks because we're
- 50:32the same we're a couple inches shy of a semi
- 50:36truck so you know we got to think of all that
- 50:39and there's People that just don't understand.
- 50:41We just don't show up at a hotel and go, oh,
- 50:43we're here, let's party. So everything you see
- 50:48here is done by us. We've been a part of those
- 50:51kind of events. So we have probably collectively,
- 50:56I mean, I've not been, I probably did like 15
- 51:02weddings. I don't know how many you did when
- 51:03you had your event center. um catered for christmas
- 51:08galas been on committees for charity galas all
- 51:10kinds of things that were run really well and
- 51:14we've definitely seen somewhere you know oh i
- 51:19made this menu it took me eight hours i'm like
- 51:22chat gbt made the whole menu in 15 minutes i'm
- 51:26sorry you wasted your time but that ain't my
- 51:29fault so You know, we definitely know a good
- 51:33event when we see it and can appreciate. That's
- 51:36why I told you, you're like, I said, I know what
- 51:39you're doing. And on a daily basis, the two people
- 51:46that work full time on it is Wayne and myself
- 51:49and then Missy. She has a day job. She has a
- 51:52real day job. And she does mocha stuff in the
- 51:56evening and on the weekends. So she's like, there's
- 51:58two and a half of us that do this. Full term.
- 52:01And what Wayne and I do and Missy does is probably
- 52:04about the equivalent of five people. I believe
- 52:08it. Do you have a question? No. Oh. The question
- 52:14was, how do you guys pick the location? Well,
- 52:16it depends. It depends on state laws. Not just
- 52:23state laws about sex, but state laws, labor laws.
- 52:27We can't go into California or New York. due
- 52:31to labor laws. We can't bring our volunteer staff
- 52:34to do it. They can't touch anything. We have
- 52:37to hire people from the labor board to come in
- 52:40and do it and pay $30 an hour per person. And
- 52:44then they have to bring so many people in because
- 52:46that person's only qualified to lift a box. This
- 52:49person's only qualified to move chairs. That
- 52:52person's only qualified to do tables. When the
- 52:54tables are moved, nobody else can touch it. So,
- 52:57you know, They have an attorney that looks into
- 53:00all that for us as well. It depends on the hotel.
- 53:02They'll go to 200 hotels and get one that might
- 53:06say maybe because it goes against their religion.
- 53:09They don't want it. They've heard horror stories
- 53:11about other lifestyle events. Because they don't
- 53:16leave any stone unturned. We don't go in there
- 53:19and not tell the hotel exactly what we're doing.
- 53:22Because we're not going to get there in the middle
- 53:24of the party, them shut us down. We don't have
- 53:26an event anymore. Because at that point, we've
- 53:28lost the trust of our guests. Because our guests
- 53:32trust us to keep them safe. And that includes
- 53:34not getting the party shut down in the middle
- 53:37of the event. So it's all this pap. All the planets,
- 53:42the stars, Halley's Comet, everything has to
- 53:45be in the right line for it to work out to pick
- 53:47a venue. But it starts with the state sex laws.
- 53:53Because there's some states that have old, old
- 53:56laws from 1700, 1800s on the books. It's all
- 54:00going to be lost. It's right there. Yes. Tennessee
- 54:02is one of them. There's a law on the book about
- 54:04black men and white women having sex. Yeah. Which
- 54:08it probably wouldn't stand in a... court of law
- 54:10these days but you don't want some barney fife
- 54:13wanting to make a name for himself showing up
- 54:15knocking on the door going we're shutting you
- 54:17down and we're arresting you know half a dozen
- 54:21of you all of you we don't we don't need that
- 54:23so he does have an attorney that keeps keeps
- 54:26his eye out in our state oral sex is illegal
- 54:28it's illegal in the state of florida too I break
- 54:33the law daily. So, you know, I'm not joking when
- 54:40I say that SARS, the planets, and Halley's Comet
- 54:42all has to be in a line to make it work. Wow.
- 54:48Anything else to follow up with, then? No? That's
- 54:50awesome. We're wrapping up here, so let me ask
- 54:54you this. If you were to describe MOCA in three
- 54:58words, what would you say? Three words. Incredible,
- 55:05awesome, camaraderie. Why camaraderie? Because
- 55:13people come to Splash Mocha and they make friends.
- 55:16Those friendships not only translate inside of
- 55:20this hotel, but they translate outside of the
- 55:23hotel as well. So when I said earlier that Splash
- 55:28Mocha is bigger than all of us. What I meant
- 55:31by that, if somebody were to tear the roof off
- 55:36of this hotel and look inside, color doesn't
- 55:40matter. We're like a big old box of 64 Crayola
- 55:44crayons. We're a bunch of different colors, but
- 55:47we're still all the same. And to see people being
- 55:52engaged, and this makes me emotional because
- 55:54it's so fantastic. When you see people. truly,
- 55:59truly engaged. Their phones are put away. I mean,
- 56:03how many times have you gone into a restaurant,
- 56:05right? And you see a husband and wife sitting
- 56:08at the table. And for those listening, I've got
- 56:11my phone in my hand. And they're sitting here
- 56:12staring at their phone across from each other.
- 56:15They're not engaged. They're not living in the
- 56:17moment. They're not chatting. They're not visiting.
- 56:19They're not, they're just staring at their phone.
- 56:22They're not talking and communicating. When you
- 56:24come into Splash Mocha, Tonight, when you walk
- 56:28through that restaurant, look around and see
- 56:29how many people actually have their phones out.
- 56:32They don't. Their phones are away. They're communicating.
- 56:37They're engaging with people. They have people
- 56:39they just met sitting down and having dinner
- 56:41with them. They're laughing. They're joking.
- 56:44They're enjoying one another. They are truly
- 56:46living in the moment. We don't live in the moment
- 56:49anymore. Because of technology and our stupid
- 56:53phones, We no longer live in the moment. We're
- 56:56too busy thinking about what's going to happen
- 56:58tomorrow, what's going to happen in the next
- 57:00hour, and what happened yesterday. Everybody
- 57:03is present right here, and they're making friends
- 57:06and making connections. They're getting out of
- 57:08their box, and they are meeting people they never
- 57:12would have met inside of the little town that
- 57:15they live in had it not been to Splash Mocha.
- 57:18I have actually had guests tell me because they
- 57:21met. a certain couple or a certain guy, they
- 57:24now have a brand new job. It's changed lives.
- 57:29It's fantastic. I was in here after the men's
- 57:33meeting. There was a gentleman who I don't know
- 57:37what his position was, but his best friend owned
- 57:41a very large construction company and somebody
- 57:43else here. I think maybe one of the volunteers
- 57:46was needing some help in that area, and they
- 57:49were on the phone saying, okay, well, what's
- 57:51your qualifications? Where are you at? What can
- 57:55you do? And when they walked out of there, he
- 57:57was like, okay, we're going to put an application
- 57:59in. We're going to get you going here. It was
- 58:01beautiful. I can say this, personal testimony.
- 58:04I had no friends, zero male friends until Splash
- 58:09Mocha. Drew me crazy. I was like, how hard is
- 58:13it to make friends? Just go do it. Right. And
- 58:15I have some of the men that I've met here, I
- 58:20would take a bullet for. In the two or three
- 58:23years that I've met them and the confidence that
- 58:26they've helped build in me, the camaraderie,
- 58:29the brotherhood, right? The Bull Brotherhood
- 58:33came from Michael C., who I met here. And that
- 58:37was his concept. I got his permission. to call
- 58:39this podcast that before i did because that's
- 58:43his his thing and yeah so when you talk about
- 58:47that tina i'm just like 100 and another thing
- 58:50about splash mocha you know as far as the women
- 58:53go and not just splash mocha but lifestyle as
- 58:57far as women go the lifestyle is very much driven
- 59:00by women it's the it's the women that say yes
- 59:04we're playing or no we're not so it is very woman
- 59:07forward And I'm not one of those flaming feminists
- 59:12or anything like that. But as women growing up,
- 59:15we have always been told, at least I was, I'm
- 59:18supposed to be ashamed of my sexuality. You're
- 59:21not supposed to enjoy sex. You got to keep it
- 59:24quiet. Well, I was 15 when I had sex the first
- 59:28time. I was 16 with my first threesome. I guess
- 59:31I was slated for this. Anyway. You know, and
- 59:37it was I was taught to be ashamed of myself,
- 59:41of my sexuality. And this even though we cater
- 59:46to the single guys and the couples, but it's
- 59:49the women. And I tell I tell couples this all
- 59:52the time, especially first timers, that it helps
- 59:56women realize that. We are sexual beings. It's
- 1:00:00okay to be proud of who we are. It gives you
- 1:00:03an opportunity to be comfortable in your own
- 1:00:05skin. You know, I struggle with, everybody says,
- 1:00:09but you're so confident. Well, I'm confident,
- 1:00:11but I'm hiding behind that. You know, my ego
- 1:00:15isn't that high. I don't have a very good outlook
- 1:00:19on myself. But then when you see, you're getting
- 1:00:23comments and compliments from people who have
- 1:00:27For no reason. Nothing to gain. Yeah, they have
- 1:00:30nothing to gain. I look at my husband and I'm
- 1:00:32like, yeah, but you signed a contract when we
- 1:00:34got married. You're supposed to say that stuff.
- 1:00:36You know, yeah, thank you. He's like, you look
- 1:00:39great. And I'm like, yeah, you told me I looked
- 1:00:40great three years ago when I was at 210 pounds,
- 1:00:43too. What rose -colored glasses are you looking
- 1:00:46through? Yes, I've actually said those words.
- 1:00:48You look good at 210, though, too. Thank you.
- 1:00:51But it's the, you know. We get compliments from
- 1:00:55somebody who owe us nothing. And that helps us.
- 1:01:00It is. It gives us a good feeling. We go home
- 1:01:04with those words in our head. And it works with
- 1:01:07us and helps us realize, well, maybe I'm not
- 1:01:10so bad when we go home and look at ourselves
- 1:01:12in the mirror. And we are allowed to feel good
- 1:01:14about our sexuality. And we are allowed to be
- 1:01:17out there about it. You know, men get... Smacked
- 1:01:21on the back all the time. Yeah, good job, dude.
- 1:01:23Hey, how many women did you lay this weekend?
- 1:01:25And while we have to be quiet and demure, but
- 1:01:31here. I never drank that tea. Well, that's how
- 1:01:35I was raised. Right, me too, though. But doing
- 1:01:39this, it's helped bring out, it's helped break
- 1:01:43that mold. And it's very good for women to come
- 1:01:47to Splash Mocha because... It's a transformation.
- 1:01:50Exactly. They actually get to see themselves
- 1:01:53through somebody else's eyes, which we don't
- 1:01:55get too much of. And if I had somebody ask me,
- 1:01:58I have had somebody ask me, if I could choose
- 1:02:01a superpower, what would it be? For me to see
- 1:02:04how other people see me through their eyes, whether
- 1:02:07good or bad. But I would love that superpower
- 1:02:11to be able to see what other however everybody
- 1:02:13else views me And I bet we if we all had that
- 1:02:16superpower we would all be very very shocked
- 1:02:18at how highly people think of you Yeah, well
- 1:02:21and how we even talked to ourselves like that
- 1:02:23was a big thing when we got together is his self
- 1:02:26-talk was terrible Yeah, and I was like if I
- 1:02:29talk to you the way that you talk to yourself
- 1:02:31you punch me in the mouth So I just try to impart
- 1:02:34that to women. It's like we're hard on ourselves.
- 1:02:36Everybody is, male and female. I think women
- 1:02:39are a little bit more so because... But it's
- 1:02:42like you wouldn't talk to me like that. I'm 210,
- 1:02:45Tina, and I look hot, right? So it's like you're
- 1:02:48down on yourself as you were 210, and then someone
- 1:02:51else you're telling them beautiful at the same
- 1:02:53weight, right? So we... just have to remember
- 1:02:56that is like you know you wouldn't talk to your
- 1:02:58best friend the way you talk to yourself so it's
- 1:03:00changing that and sometimes I'll get in those
- 1:03:03valleys too but if we just you know if I get
- 1:03:07real bad then he's like you need to put sticky
- 1:03:08notes on your mirror again and read them every
- 1:03:11day so I have them all over the place just to
- 1:03:13remind myself you know what other people and
- 1:03:17however people see me so that's really good Oh,
- 1:03:20y 'all didn't know he was coming to a self -improvement
- 1:03:21seminar, did you? Almost definitely not. Oh,
- 1:03:26yeah, we're coming up on that. Yeah, well, I've,
- 1:03:28you know, I, this is my job. So I talk to a lot
- 1:03:31of people. And, you know, I sit and think about
- 1:03:34it a lot. Because, I mean, I eat, live, and breathe
- 1:03:37Splash Mocha mostly. So, and I've been in the
- 1:03:40lifestyle 20 years. And I've seen a lot. I've
- 1:03:43talked to a lot of people. And these are the
- 1:03:45things that I've come up with. And I think for
- 1:03:48women it's very empowering. And I think you see
- 1:03:52these new women that come in through the door
- 1:03:54at registration, at main registration, and they're
- 1:03:57so quiet. And they don't want to look up. They
- 1:04:00look down at the floor and looking at their feet
- 1:04:02like, don't make eye contact with me. I'm here,
- 1:04:05but I'm not here. And then to see them at the
- 1:04:07end of the party, and they're the life of the
- 1:04:10party, and they're looking up and catching people's
- 1:04:12eye and chatting and smiling and giggling. And
- 1:04:16they're allowed to be who they are without outside
- 1:04:18society pointing the finger and looking down
- 1:04:21on them. You know, it's very, and it's for me,
- 1:04:26it's very rewarding because I've got to see that
- 1:04:28butterfly get out of her cocoon. Well, this is
- 1:04:31a place where a lot of people find their freedom,
- 1:04:34you know. We're allowed to be who we are here.
- 1:04:37This is where Siren found her freedom. That's
- 1:04:39for sure. Yeah. And that's why, you know, we
- 1:04:41started the podcast that I have because I want
- 1:04:44to hear about people's journey. Like, you know,
- 1:04:47I always it would hurt my heart when I was younger
- 1:04:49in my 20s and women would say, I just don't enjoy
- 1:04:52sex. And I'm like, and I wasn't enjoying it in
- 1:04:55my first marriage. But I was like, there's more
- 1:04:58to this. There's something more. And I just was
- 1:05:01on that journey of like, what else? There's more.
- 1:05:04And we would talk to people and it was just,
- 1:05:06you know, very, you know, that's a whole other
- 1:05:09podcast. Anyways, I could just talk, we could
- 1:05:12talk all day. I could go on and on and on because
- 1:05:14it's just, like I said, this is bigger than all
- 1:05:17of us. When you start peeling back the layers
- 1:05:21like an onion, you start realizing that how much
- 1:05:24this is, if society could take out a page out
- 1:05:27of our playbook, like when we came back from
- 1:05:28COVID, you know, we were dealing with the George
- 1:05:33Floyd thing. covid politics everybody's feet
- 1:05:37everybody had their feelings on their sleeves
- 1:05:39and our event in atlanta we moved it from march
- 1:05:42to may in 2021 and our event was the first big
- 1:05:47event after covid and to watch number one watching
- 1:05:52people walk through that hotel door on registration
- 1:05:54with their whole faces covered with a mask and
- 1:05:57they see a sea of people Hundred people in the
- 1:06:00lobby and not one damn mask on. They just ripped
- 1:06:03that sucker right off their faces. Big old grins
- 1:06:06on their faces. You know, everybody's political
- 1:06:09COVID opinions. Everything was on high at that
- 1:06:13time. And none of that freaking mattered. Nobody
- 1:06:16breathed a word of COVID. Nobody breathed a word
- 1:06:19of what was going on outside the walls of that
- 1:06:22hotel. They left all that bullshit outside on
- 1:06:25the street. And it was freaking amazing. Like
- 1:06:28you said, Socrates, it was beautiful just to
- 1:06:31see people go back to the way it was before that
- 1:06:35stupid virus struck. So, I mean, it was just,
- 1:06:40it was phenomenal. That's beautiful, too. And
- 1:06:43like you said, the world outside this, this is
- 1:06:45like the only place that I feel completely like
- 1:06:49everything in my regular life doesn't even exist.
- 1:06:52Right, and we call it the Splash Mocha Bubble.
- 1:06:54Everybody comes here, they get trapped in the
- 1:06:56Splash Mocha bubble because nothing outside the
- 1:06:58walls of this hotel freaking matter. The only
- 1:07:01thing that matters is the people sitting in front
- 1:07:03of them. I love that. Well, we can go all night,
- 1:07:08but we can't. So is there anything else that
- 1:07:12we didn't talk about you wanted to cover and
- 1:07:14people know about Splash? Well, you call it the
- 1:07:19Bulls Brotherhood. One thing that we are trying
- 1:07:22to do. in the lifestyle is try to get away from,
- 1:07:26not that there's anything wrong with the name
- 1:07:27of your podcast. We are trying to change some
- 1:07:30of the terminology. We don't refer to the guys
- 1:07:35as bulls. We don't refer to the guys as BBCs.
- 1:07:38When I get couples that say, how many bulls and
- 1:07:40BBCs you got coming? I'm like, first of all,
- 1:07:43the men of MOCA are not bulls and we don't call
- 1:07:48them bulls and BBCs. They're gentlemen, first
- 1:07:51and foremost. To me, and please correct me if
- 1:07:55I'm wrong, to me, when they say it, and it's
- 1:07:58probably the tone that they use when they say
- 1:08:00it, it makes me think that they think you're
- 1:08:03just a piece of meat. Right. You know, you're
- 1:08:06just a side of beef. And I know for a fact all
- 1:08:09the men at MOCA are not just that. They're beautiful
- 1:08:14souls and beautiful people, and they deserve
- 1:08:18it. And also what we say at MOCA. everybody's
- 1:08:22a guest. I don't just call the couples and the
- 1:08:25single guys. When I refer to whether it's the
- 1:08:29guys or the couples or the single females, everybody's
- 1:08:32a guest. I don't care what category you fall
- 1:08:35into. But I do know some guys call themselves
- 1:08:37bulls. Some of them call themselves BBCs, and
- 1:08:40that's great. But, you know, we want to let them
- 1:08:43know, let everybody know that the men at MOCA
- 1:08:47are gentlemen. Well, you got some, a lot of ladies
- 1:08:52that we know, they won't use that word at all.
- 1:08:55They'll only say black gentleman or gentleman.
- 1:08:57And for us, we pick the word because we do know
- 1:09:01it's more specifically for the cuckold dynamic.
- 1:09:05Right. And as a married bull, and Brian has been
- 1:09:09a bull for 30 years, we're just saying from our
- 1:09:14perspective of the lifestyle, we're a niche of
- 1:09:17a niche, but... We have a unique perspective,
- 1:09:21but we have different people on. That's why Brian
- 1:09:24insisted on having Cyron, because we wanted a
- 1:09:27female perspective. And yeah, there are gentleman
- 1:09:30bulls. There are manicorns. There are just single
- 1:09:33men. There are cucks that come. There are just
- 1:09:36stags that come. There are husbands that are
- 1:09:39just curious. So those titles are loose. You
- 1:09:42know, you can be fluent with the titles. We're
- 1:09:45more concerned about... our perspectives as bulls
- 1:09:49and that we're a brotherhood, that we hold each
- 1:09:51other to a certain standard. But you're putting...
- 1:09:54It's a positive thing. Right. You're making it
- 1:09:58positive. Some of the couples I talk to, when
- 1:10:02I'm talking to them and they're talking about
- 1:10:04the guys being BBCs or bulls, it gives me a negative...
- 1:10:07It gives you the ick. It's like a job or it's
- 1:10:12like... That's all I see you as. Right. You have
- 1:10:17tasks to do. Right. And I want everybody to know
- 1:10:21that the guys are more than just a bull or BBC.
- 1:10:25That's why I refer to the guys as gentlemen,
- 1:10:27because they are more than what's between their
- 1:10:30legs. Right. Well, I like what Michael C. says.
- 1:10:32Some of us are ABCs. We're average black cocks.
- 1:10:40So, you know, you're not even going to get all
- 1:10:43BBC all the time. So what was there was something
- 1:10:45else for like a tiny one. I forgot. I forgot.
- 1:10:49Yeah. So thank you for making that clear. Because,
- 1:10:53right. What I do love is no matter what your
- 1:10:57dynamic and no matter why you're here. It's about
- 1:11:00being human beings. It's about connecting on
- 1:11:03a real level, right? And that's what I love about
- 1:11:06you. What I love about you, Tina, is that you're
- 1:11:08just real. If it's straightening a motherfucker
- 1:11:11out, you're just real. If it's showing love and
- 1:11:14support, you're just real. And that's what it's
- 1:11:17all about. It's about come here, be authentic,
- 1:11:20be real, understand you're a part of a community.
- 1:11:24Understand the way you treat others and how you
- 1:11:26conduct yourself has effect on the person in
- 1:11:28front of you, but also on the community, right?
- 1:11:31And that's what I love about it. And see, for
- 1:11:33me, from a personal standpoint, the way I see
- 1:11:36it, if you cut my arm and you cut everybody else's
- 1:11:39arm in this room, what color are we all bleeding?
- 1:11:41Red. So I don't care what color your skin is.
- 1:11:44We're all just people. And if you're acting like
- 1:11:46an asshole, then I'm going to treat you like
- 1:11:48an asshole. Right. No matter what color. Exactly.
- 1:11:52So if anybody wants to learn more about Splash
- 1:11:55Mocha, where would they go? If you want to learn
- 1:11:57more about Splash Mocha, you go to SplashMocha
- 1:11:59.com. All of our events are listed on our website.
- 1:12:02All the upcoming dates, all the current dates.
- 1:12:05If you open up one of the parties and all the
- 1:12:08rooms say sold out, we're sold out. That is not
- 1:12:10a marketing ploy. We're 100 % sold out. If all
- 1:12:13your room categories say sold out, we're done.
- 1:12:16We're sold out. So a lot of people think, well,
- 1:12:18why don't you just get the hotel to give you
- 1:12:21another block of rooms? When we go into a hotel,
- 1:12:23we don't buy a block of rooms, and then we sell
- 1:12:26those out, and the hotel gives us another block
- 1:12:28of rooms. We don't do that. We go at it. We buy
- 1:12:31out the whole facility from the get -go, from
- 1:12:33day one, including the parking lot. When I know
- 1:12:38there's a lot of parties out there that will
- 1:12:40say sold out. And next thing you know, a week
- 1:12:42later, there's 20 more rooms available. That's
- 1:12:44not how Splash Mocha rolls. And you guys sell
- 1:12:47out months in advance. Yeah. So, you know, we're
- 1:12:50in August 2025. We sold this event out five months
- 1:12:53ago to single men and to couples. It was all
- 1:12:55sold out. Houston is already sold out to couples
- 1:12:58and single men. We sold that out a month ago.
- 1:13:01um new year's is a little slower at selling out
- 1:13:04yes there's a bunch of events out there for lifestyle
- 1:13:08We don't consider that competition for selling
- 1:13:10out a little slower. What we're competing with
- 1:13:12is Christmas and family time. Nobody knows what
- 1:13:15their family plans are until the first or second
- 1:13:17week of December. That's when all my reservations
- 1:13:19start amping up. Last year, we sold out two weeks
- 1:13:22before the event for New Year's, but it's all
- 1:13:24because of Christmas. But it always sells out.
- 1:13:26It always sells out. It always sells out. Yeah,
- 1:13:29because if I had a dollar for every time a single
- 1:13:31man was like, oh, man, I didn't think I was going
- 1:13:33to sell out that quick, I'm like, listen. I'd
- 1:13:35be rich. I mean, Siren's in the Caribbean right
- 1:13:39now being served by a very cute cabana boy. Cranks
- 1:13:42with little umbrellas in them. Well, because
- 1:13:44we're like on a permanent payment plan. Like
- 1:13:47we're always signed up for like the next two.
- 1:13:49Like our accountant's like, what's ML ticketing?
- 1:13:52I'm like, well, that's like a, what do we say?
- 1:13:55It's like a convention that we go to. Like it's
- 1:13:57educational. He's like, okay, business. Okay.
- 1:14:03Exactly. Yeah. So Tina, thank you so much for
- 1:14:08coming on and just letting us learn more about
- 1:14:11it and, you know, showing us love and everything.
- 1:14:14And so if you guys. There's also a referral program.
- 1:14:20Affiliate. Affiliate program. I'm sorry. Thank
- 1:14:22you. And so if you guys are interested and you
- 1:14:25want to, you know, go through our affiliate,
- 1:14:28you heard about it here. Just send us an email.
- 1:14:30It's also on the show notes. And yeah. So, Siren,
- 1:14:35did you have anything else that you want to talk
- 1:14:37about before we get out of here? We missed you,
- 1:14:38Brian. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for
- 1:14:44all the audience and everything. Thanks for Brian
- 1:14:47for, you know, chilling back and letting us do
- 1:14:49this because he's the he's the big bull of the
- 1:14:52show. And thank you, Tina, for coming on. It's
- 1:14:54my pleasure. We really appreciate you. And you
- 1:14:57guys come check it out. Come check it out. If
- 1:15:02you haven't. Trust me. You know, you are going
- 1:15:06to be impressed with the professionalism, with
- 1:15:08the people that come here. You're going to be
- 1:15:10impressed with the way things are conducted here.
- 1:15:13And, you know, for the husbands, that's a big
- 1:15:16concern for me. Your wives are going to be well
- 1:15:18protected and well respected. And if they're
- 1:15:22not, people like Dimitri and Wayne and everything,
- 1:15:26they'll straighten you out. So check us out and
- 1:15:29we'll see you on the next episode. Luxury untaught