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Mega Edition: Chad Daybell Trial (Part 16) (10/22/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're getting right back to the Chad Daybell
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Speaker 1: trial and we're gonna recap what went down on day
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Speaker 1: number 16. And to do that, once again, we're going
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Speaker 1: to be using eastidahonews.com and the author of this article
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Speaker 1: is Nate Eaton. 8.26 a.m. We are back in the
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Speaker 1: courtroom for day number 16 of the trial. There are
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Speaker 1: more people in the gallery than in days past, around
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Speaker 1: 40 or 50. Many are here for the first time.
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Speaker 1: The deputy goes over the courtroom conduct order. Phones must
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Speaker 1: be silenced. No photos, no sunglasses or hats in the courtroom, etc. 8.27 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Retired Rexburg detective David Stubbs will be back on the
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Speaker 1: stand first thing this morning. Madison County prosecuting attorney Rob
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Speaker 1: Wood will be questioning him. 8.29 a.m. Chad Daybell just
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Speaker 1: walked into the courtroom with his laptop. He's sitting next
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Speaker 1: to John Pryor, his defense attorney. Chad's wearing a light
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Speaker 1: checkered shirt with a yellow tie. Fremont County Prosecuting Attorney
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Blake and Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Rocky Wixom and Special
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Speaker 1: Prosecutor Ingrid Beatty are at the prosecution table with Wood. 8.31 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Attorneys all leave the courtroom to have a sidebar with
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Speaker 1: Judge Stephen Boyce. 8.37 a.m. The attorneys have walked back
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Speaker 1: into the courtroom. Wood takes his place at the podium.
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Speaker 1: Boyce is on the bench and the jurors are being
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Speaker 1: brought in. 8.40 a.m. Boyce says court will end early today,
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Speaker 1: around 2 p.m. 8.42 a.m. Wood begins by asking Stubbs
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Speaker 1: about the search he and officers did of the apartments
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Speaker 1: in Rexburg. This was the first search for JJ. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: was wearing a body camera. Wood moves to admit the
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Speaker 1: video into evidence. 8.44 a.m. Wood plays a video showing
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Speaker 1: Stubbs walking into apartment 175, Lori's apartment, on November 27, 2019.
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Speaker 1: He narrates that he's in the front room. There was
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Speaker 1: some damage to the door from the no-knock entry warrant.
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Speaker 1: There are keys on the counter, an envelope from Amazon
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Speaker 1: to Lori Vallow, food in the pantry. We see Stubbs
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Speaker 1: walking into the garage. There are couches, tables, guns, several totes. 8.47 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs now walks up the stairs. We see the master
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Speaker 1: bedroom and the master bathroom. Lots of hangers in the closet,
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Speaker 1: but nothing else. It's empty. It made me think that
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Speaker 1: the occupants left in haste. Stubbs says, There are two
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Speaker 1: small computer desks with a printer. On the printer is
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Speaker 1: a lease agreement for Lori Ryan. 8.50 a.m. We now
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Speaker 1: see two additional bedrooms. In one room there's a bed,
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Speaker 1: and in the closet are some coats, an empty box,
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Speaker 1: a fan, a bedspread, and winter clothes in a box.
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Speaker 1: The other bedroom has a bed, three guitar cases with guitars,
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Speaker 1: a duffel bag full of toiletries that appear to belong
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Speaker 1: to a man. The closet is fairly empty, except for
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Speaker 1: two swords, and empty laundry baskets. 8.52 a.m. The video
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Speaker 1: is over. Stubbs also walked through apartment 174, Melanie Boudreaux's apartment.
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Speaker 1: Wood moves to admit body camera footage from her apartment.
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Speaker 1: Wood asks if anything stood out to him. This particular
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Speaker 1: apartment appeared someone was residing there. Clothes were in the closet.
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Speaker 1: There was a car in the garage. Something that struck
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Speaker 1: me as odd as we were searching. I noticed on
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Speaker 1: the counter she had a three-ring binder with clear plastic
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Speaker 1: organizers inside. I thought it was off because I knew
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Speaker 1: they were divorced that she had numerous of his credit
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Speaker 1: cards and driver's license in there. 8.55 a.m. We now
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Speaker 1: see footage of Stubbs entering Melanie's apartment. There's furniture inside
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Speaker 1: and pictures on the wall. There are items on the counter,
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Speaker 1: including electronics and a purse. We see Brandon Boudreau's credit
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Speaker 1: cards on the counter and Brandon's driver's license. So like
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Speaker 1: I said about Melanie and the rest of these people
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Speaker 1: that were palling around with Lori and Chad, I don't
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Speaker 1: trust any of them. And I think the whole entire
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Speaker 1: woe is me routine when it comes to the fact
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Speaker 1: that they've been outed for weirdos is way off the mark.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how anyone could look at these
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Speaker 1: people and be like, oh, you know what? They were
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Speaker 1: just talked into it. They were coerced. No, they all
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Speaker 1: had these crazy ass ideas. And sometimes crazy just meets crazy, right?
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Speaker 1: And that's what we see here. A whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: crazy people colliding with a whole ass bunch of stupid. 8.57 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs mispronounces Brandon's last name. Wood pauses the video and says,
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Speaker 1: it appears you mispronounced Brandon's last name. Stubbs responds, I
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Speaker 1: surely did, and many in the courtroom chuckle. J.J. Vallow
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Speaker 1: was not found in the apartment. The search grew to
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Speaker 1: include Tylee Ryan. 8.59 a.m. Wood asks Stubbs if he
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Speaker 1: ever found evidence that Brandon lived in apartment 174. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: says no. Wood asks to publish an exhibit showing the
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Speaker 1: list of warrants that Stubbs obtained. 9.01am. The first warrant
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Speaker 1: Stubbs wrote was to Verizon for the original phone number
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Speaker 1: associated with Lori Vallow. Stubbs explains many of the warrants
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Speaker 1: on the list were issued before the children were found. 9.03am.
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Speaker 1: Verizon returned the warrant with names and email addresses associated
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Speaker 1: with Lori's first number. Stubbs says Google is very good
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Speaker 1: at keeping track of people. Anytime someone uses a Gmail account,
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Speaker 1: Google keeps records of what you do, when you do it,
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Speaker 1: and where you are. So when I talk about anyone
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Speaker 1: who's out there trying to commit crimes and keeping their
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Speaker 1: cell phone on them, this is what I mean. You
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Speaker 1: are going to get caught. It's not a matter of if,
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Speaker 1: it's a matter of when. 9.06 a.m. Would ask Stubbs
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Speaker 1: if someone can opt out of geolocation tracking. Stubbs says
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Speaker 1: location services can be turned off and it would prohibit
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Speaker 1: Google from keeping that information. 9.07 a.m. The number was
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Speaker 1: associated with Alex Cox's email address, two of Lori's email accounts,
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Speaker 1: and one of Chad's email accounts. Stubbs was able to
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Speaker 1: obtain geolocation data from Alex, the Homer J. Maximus account.
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Speaker 1: More like Maximus Moron. 9.08 a.m. Stubbs says, We were
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Speaker 1: still in the process of trying to locate children, JJ
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Speaker 1: and Tylee. He gets choked up, pauses, and says sorry,
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Speaker 1: and he goes on to say that a Verizon bill
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Speaker 1: was found in a Sugar City P.O. box. The bill
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Speaker 1: had several numbers listed for Lori, Tylee, Alex, and Charles. 9.10 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says nobody returned to the apartments after November 27th.
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Speaker 1: The landlords went in to clean the units and found
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Speaker 1: two electronic devices that were turned over to the police.
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Speaker 1: Police issued a warrant on those devices. 9.12 a.m. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: requested a tap and trace warrant on the devices as
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Speaker 1: they searched for JJ and Tylee. Verizon sent police live
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Speaker 1: data as the phones were on the move. It allowed
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Speaker 1: officers to see where the device was in real time.
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Speaker 1: So when I talk about things going on behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: this is the sort of stuff I'm talking about as well.
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Speaker 1: There's so much going on when we're talking about one
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Speaker 1: of these investigations that it will make your head spin.
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Speaker 1: And we as the public were only privy to a
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Speaker 1: small amount of that. 9.15 a.m. Wood asked Stubbs why
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Speaker 1: they're looking at Chad Daybell's location. He responds, Lori and
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Speaker 1: Chad were married. We couldn't get a hold of either
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Speaker 1: one of them. We couldn't get any straight answers from
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Speaker 1: either one. We couldn't get information on where the children were. 9.16 a.m.
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Speaker 1: The devices tracked to Kauai, Hawaii. Investigators went to Hawaii
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Speaker 1: and located Chad and Lori. A warrant was obtained to
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Speaker 1: gather evidence from their vehicle and the townhouse. Ten electronic
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Speaker 1: devices were taken from their rental car. 9.18 a.m. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: says the information they got back from Google or Verizon
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Speaker 1: can be thousands of pages. He says it's impossible for
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Speaker 1: one person to go through all the data. especially in
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Speaker 1: a short time frame when officers were trying to find
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Speaker 1: the kids. Stubbs worked with the FBI and other agencies
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Speaker 1: to go through all of the info. 921 a.m. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: says forensic software is always slightly behind the phone. Whenever
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Speaker 1: a phone comes out with new technology, the software engineers
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Speaker 1: have to upgrade their systems. Just because you physically have
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Speaker 1: the phone and software, it doesn't mean you can automatically
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Speaker 1: get into the device. 923 a.m. Police also obtained a
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Speaker 1: warrant on Melanie Boudreaux's phone. As Melanie was being interviewed
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Speaker 1: by police in Rexburg, Stubbs obtained her phone. This was
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Speaker 1: early in 2020 before Tylee and JJ were found. Police
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Speaker 1: can obtain evidence from an actual phone and other evidence
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Speaker 1: from phone carriers. Apps also keep a lot of information
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be on the device. Police found a notebook
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Speaker 1: in the Hawaii vehicle that had pages of email accounts
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Speaker 1: and passwords. Police worked to obtain warrants on the accounts. 9.30 a.m.
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Speaker 1: The kids were found on Chad's property on June 9, 2020.
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Speaker 1: Additional warrants were issued after this time. Police wanted to
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Speaker 1: bring in specialized equipment onto the property to get cell
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Speaker 1: phone signal strengths. 9.33 a.m. Stubbs wanted to find anyone
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Speaker 1: who had spent significant time in or near Chad's property
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Speaker 1: and Lori's apartment on critical dates. They wanted to see
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Speaker 1: if there was anyone else that the officers should be investigating. 9.35 a.m.
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Speaker 1: If someone had their Google location turned off, they would
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Speaker 1: not show up in the geolocation search. 9.38 a.m. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: says officers narrowed everything down to 12 devices of interest.
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Speaker 1: Police requested warrants on the 12 devices to find out
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Speaker 1: who they belonged to. 9.40 a.m. Google did not respond.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs got a hold of someone at the company and
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Speaker 1: was told the 12 devices was too broad. Google suggested
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Speaker 1: police narrow their search. They lessened the request by two
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Speaker 1: and asked for details on 10 devices. Police received information
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Speaker 1: on the 10 devices. Stubbs says an independent expert was
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Speaker 1: brought in for an outsider's perspective on the phones. 9.42 9.43am
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Speaker 1: Nothing new was discovered by the independent expert. Woods asked
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Speaker 1: Stubbs about some of the things found during the search.
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Speaker 1: He looked at the Lollitime account. A few brought me concern,
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Speaker 1: he says. On August 25th, the user of Lollitime looked
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Speaker 1: up wedding rings made of malachite and visited websites about
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Speaker 1: the rings. The user tried to purchase two rings, an 11.5
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Speaker 1: size and 4.2 size. The total was $ 808. The credit
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Speaker 1: card failed and the purchase was declined. 9.46 a.m. On
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Speaker 1: September 20th, the user searched the definition of possessed. On
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Speaker 1: September 30th, the user looked up how to remove the
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Speaker 1: back seat of a Jeep and then watched a video
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Speaker 1: about how to do it. Two days later, a gray
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Speaker 1: Jeep Wrangler with Texas license plates was used to shoot
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Speaker 1: at Brandon in Arizona. It was the same Jeep found
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Speaker 1: in Rexburg. 9.48 a.m. Stubbs searched the search history of
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Speaker 1: Chad D. Daybell, gmail.com. On September 8, 2019, the user
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Speaker 1: of the account looked up what the wind direction was
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Speaker 1: going to be on September 9. We believe on the 9th,
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Speaker 1: Tylee's body was burned and buried in the fire pit
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Speaker 1: behind Chad's house. So that's why he's looking for the
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Speaker 1: wind direction according to the prosecution. What, he's just up
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Speaker 1: there wondering which way the wind's gonna be gusting today?
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Speaker 1: Unless bro has a badminton tournament planned and he's worried
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Speaker 1: about the shuttlecock moving all over the place, I don't
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Speaker 1: see why he's worried about where the wind's blowing. 9.50 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood asked Stubbs about a flash drive found. On the drive,
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Speaker 1: there were several photos of Chad and Lori's wedding from
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Speaker 1: November 5th, 2019. Stubbs used forensic software to search the
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Speaker 1: flash drive. so the original content was not disturbed. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: found that photos of Chad, Tammy, their kids, Chad and
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Speaker 1: Tammy's courtship to their marriage, to their kids being born,
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Speaker 1: basically a family album, had all been deleted. Yeah, sounds
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Speaker 1: like a guy who is really in mourning, a man
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Speaker 1: that really misses his wife. And I'm sure the jury
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Speaker 1: is just sucking it up. I'm sure they just love
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Speaker 1: the fact that Chad Daybell is such a scoundrel. 9.55 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Morning recess. All right, so we're going to end the
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Speaker 1: episode here, and in the next episode, we'll pick up
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Speaker 1: where we left off at day number 16 of the
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Speaker 1: Chad Daybell trial. All of the information that goes with
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Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the program. We're going to pick
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Speaker 1: up where we left off at day number 16 of
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Speaker 1: the Chad Daybell trial. Once again, we're using eastidahonews.com as
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Speaker 1: our guide, and the author of this article is Nate Eaton. 10.28 a.m.
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Speaker 1: We are back in the courtroom. Wood publishes a photo
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Speaker 1: of Lori and Chad on the beach with a wedding
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Speaker 1: officiant on the beach. The next image is of Chad
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Speaker 1: holding Lori in his arms on the beach as they kiss.
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Speaker 1: The next photo is Lori doing the hula with Chad
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Speaker 1: playing a ukulele. 10.30 a.m. The next photo is of
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Speaker 1: Chad and Lori looking into each other's eyes. Another photo
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Speaker 1: shows their Amalekite rings. Another image is of Lori's ring
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Speaker 1: on her left hand. Now we see a picture of
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Speaker 1: Chad's ring. The next picture is of Chad and Lori
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Speaker 1: standing in front of the LDS temple in Hawaii. Wood
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Speaker 1: has no further questions. 10.34 a.m. John Pryor now questions Stubbs.
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Speaker 1: He asks about universal time and adjusting cellular data. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: says UTC is a standard time, and depending on where
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Speaker 1: you are in the world, it's UTC plus or minus hours.
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Speaker 1: In Rexburg, it's UTS 6 minus 6 hours. or minus seven,
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Speaker 1: depending on daylight savings. 10.36 a.m. Pryor asks for clarification
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Speaker 1: about who was living in which apartment in Rexburg. Pryor
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Speaker 1: asks if Stubbs went through the garages during his search.
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Speaker 1: He says yes. 10.38 a.m. Pryor asks Stubbs to review
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Speaker 1: 15 photos on a computer. Stubbs looks over them. 10.40 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Pryor asks Stubbs if he recognizes the photos. Stubbs says
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Speaker 1: he was involved in searching different apartments. and doesn't personally
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Speaker 1: recall seeing the items in the photo. 10.42 a.m. Pryor
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Speaker 1: asks if Stubbs found any evidence that tickets to Disneyland
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Speaker 1: or Knott's Berry Farm were purchased. Stubbs says he didn't
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Speaker 1: personally investigate that aspect of the case, but is aware
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Speaker 1: of the trip. 10.43 a.m. Pryor asks that because Lori
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Speaker 1: Vallow's apartment was vacated, that doesn't mean Chad Daybell's home
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Speaker 1: was vacated. Stubbs says they didn't search Chad's house. They
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Speaker 1: searched Lori's. 10.45 a.m. Pryor asks Stubbs if he is
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Speaker 1: aware that Chad Daybell is not implicated in the attempted
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Speaker 1: murder of Brandon. Stubbs is aware. 10.46 a.m. Pryor asks
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Speaker 1: Stubbs about trying to reach Melanie Gibb and saying that
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Speaker 1: Gibb lied to officers. Stubbs says he wasn't involved in
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Speaker 1: that part of the investigation. 10.48 p.m. Pryor asks Stubbs
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Speaker 1: about Lori saying she was going to move to live
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Speaker 1: with Melanie. He asks about Lori saying Melanie and JJ
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Speaker 1: were at Frozen 2. Pryor asks Stubbs if he looked
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Speaker 1: into the possibility that Lori was moving to live with Melanie.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says they were looking into that possibility. 10.50 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Pryor asks if Stubbs ever looked at Melanie Gibbs' phone records.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says no. He asks if Stubbs looked at David
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Speaker 1: Warwick's phone records. Stubbs says no. 10.51 a.m. Pryor says
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Speaker 1: David and Melanie were at Lori's house when JJ was
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Speaker 1: last seen alive. Pryor asks Stubbs if he agrees that
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Speaker 1: Lori was very convincing. Stubbs disagrees. Pryor talks about Stubbs
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Speaker 1: not taking action to keep Lori from fleeing during both
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Speaker 1: visits to her apartment. Stubbs says they had not established
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Speaker 1: JJ was not with Melanie Gibb at the time, so
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Speaker 1: they had no reason to detain her. You can't just
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Speaker 1: go and detain somebody, right? You have to have a reason.
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Speaker 1: There has to be a probable cause. You know, this
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Speaker 1: isn't Nazi Germany. You can't just kick in someone's door
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Speaker 1: and do whatever you want. I know some cops try
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Speaker 1: to do that, but if you want to have the
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Speaker 1: conviction stick, you better do it the right way. 10.53 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs made the comment, not not, after the visit to
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Speaker 1: Lori's apartment. That phrase is used in law enforcement, meaning,
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Speaker 1: turn off the body cameras. Stubbs says it allowed officers
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Speaker 1: to state their opinions without having them recorded. 10.55 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Pryor asked Stubbs how many calls he made to Chad
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Speaker 1: Daybell about JJ. Stubbs, personally, did not make any. There
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Speaker 1: was no warrant to search Chad's home at the time.
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Speaker 1: Pryor asked Stubbs if he ever found a message from
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Speaker 1: Chad to Lori that said, let's kill the kids. Stubbs
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Speaker 1: did not. So because there's no letter, that means there's
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Speaker 1: no conspiracy, huh? Is that really your defense, Mr. Pryor? 10.56 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs said Rob Wood was present during the search of
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Speaker 1: Lori Vallow's apartment. Pryor asks about Stubbs tapping phone calls.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says no. A tap is to listen to someone.
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Speaker 1: They did not listen to anyone. Stubbs appears visibly annoyed
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Speaker 1: as he answers these questions. Pryor is trying to throw
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Speaker 1: a little bit of doubt into the investigation, right? Trying
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Speaker 1: to make it seem like they were misstepping, like they
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Speaker 1: were cutting corners and that there was some kind of
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Speaker 1: investigative misconduct here. That's what he's looking for, but it's
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Speaker 1: not going to work out for him. The strategy of
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Speaker 1: loopholes and technicalities is certainly not going to save Chad Daybell.
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Speaker 1: 11 a.m. Wood just objected to one of Pryor's questions.
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Speaker 1: Boyce overruled the objection and Pryor started to ask about
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Speaker 1: the question. Boyce said, Mr. Pryor, when I make a ruling,
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Speaker 1: don't ask another question. The witness can answer. 11.02 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood asked Stubbs why people research Malachite. Stubbs says it
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Speaker 1: has to do with spirituality or other things. 11.03 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Pryor has no further questions. Wood has some redirect. Wood
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Speaker 1: asked if Melanie Gibb or David Warwick showed up in
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Speaker 1: the geofence. Stubbs says no. Wood asked about the tap
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Speaker 1: and trace and why one wasn't done on Melanie Gibb.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says Gibb was cooperating with the police. 11.05 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood asks if any of Gibb's or Warwick's kids were
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Speaker 1: found on Chad's property. Stubbs says no. Wood has nothing further.
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Speaker 1: And it's funny that he says that Gibb's was cooperating
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Speaker 1: with police. It's my opinion that if she didn't cooperate,
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Speaker 1: she would have been part of this whole thing. So
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Speaker 1: they probably rolled in there and told her, look, we
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Speaker 1: know you know more than you're telling us. And if
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Speaker 1: you don't tell us what you know, well, we're going
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Speaker 1: to charge you. And I'm sure that was enough to
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Speaker 1: get her to talk, right? To crack. Let's not make
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Speaker 1: pretend we're talking about hardened criminals here. Somebody like Melanie
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Speaker 1: Gibb is not going to be able to face the
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Speaker 1: pressure of one of these investigations and she's going to
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Speaker 1: turn on her co-conspirators. The police were aware of that
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Speaker 1: and they flexed on her and they got information from her.
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Speaker 1: But you better believe if she was reticent to give
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Speaker 1: that information over and she was playing games, they would
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Speaker 1: have definitely gotten a warrant on her phone and they
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Speaker 1: would have went through it. 11.05 a.m. Wood asks if
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Speaker 1: any of Gibbs or Warwick's kids were found on Chad's property.
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Speaker 1: Stubbs says no. Wood has nothing further. 11.07 a.m. Next
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Speaker 1: witness is FBI Special Agent Steve Daniels. 11.08 a.m. Daniels
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Speaker 1: was part of the Evidence Response Team, ERT, for the FBI.
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Speaker 1: He's worked for the FBI for 26 years. He left
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Speaker 1: ERT one year ago. 11.12 a.m. Daniel describes the extensive
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Speaker 1: training he completed to be part of the ERT. Since 2001,
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Speaker 1: he has helped recover human remains in many cases. When
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Speaker 1: he left ERT, he was the senior team leader in
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Speaker 1: the Salt Lake office. He was the senior team leader
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Speaker 1: in the search for JJ and Tylee. Daniels worked with
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Speaker 1: other FBI departments in the Rexburg Police Department while planning
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Speaker 1: the search of Chad's property. They came up with a
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Speaker 1: search strategy and got satellite imagery of the property. They
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Speaker 1: arrived on the property around 7 a.m. a.m. on June 9, 2020. 11.16 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Eight ERT members were on the site. They were each
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Speaker 1: assigned roles and responsibilities prior to arrival. Someone started a
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Speaker 1: crime scene log, another began taking photos of the crime scene,
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Speaker 1: and Daniel started an administrative log of the scene. He
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Speaker 1: also did a walkthrough of the property. 11.17 a.m. Two
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Speaker 1: ERT members were assigned to assess the fire pit. They
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Speaker 1: had text message talking about burying something in the pet cemetery,
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Speaker 1: so Daniels needed to figure out where the pet cemetery was.
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Speaker 1: They also had a few telephone pings on the property
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Speaker 1: from September 2019 showing where people were on the property. 11.20 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood asked for a brief sidebar. 11.26 a.m. Sidebar is over.
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Speaker 1: Wood moves to admit several photos. 11.30 a.m. All of
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Speaker 1: the photos were taken the day law enforcement searched Chad's
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Speaker 1: property for JJ and Tylee. 11.32 a.m. Daniels created an
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Speaker 1: interactive exhibit detailing the work they did on Chad's property.
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Speaker 1: He describes what a total station device is, a measuring
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Speaker 1: device that sits on a tripod, using a laser for
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Speaker 1: a point-to-point measuring. 11.34 a.m. A pharaoh scanner was used
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Speaker 1: to measure and scan things on the property. Over 40
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Speaker 1: scans were performed on the property. The data they collected
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Speaker 1: was voluminous. 11.37 a.m. Wood asked to admit the exhibit
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Speaker 1: Daniels prepared. It's the key points from all the scans, measurements, etc.
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Speaker 1: The exhibit is a summary of his findings. And this
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Speaker 1: is the most damaging information that the jury is going
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Speaker 1: to receive. When you have all of these spreadsheets, you
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Speaker 1: have these different exhibits that have been put together. It
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Speaker 1: puts it all into order for the jurors, right? Makes
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Speaker 1: it very easy for them to follow along with what
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Speaker 1: the prosecution is alleging. And basically what we're seeing is
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Speaker 1: a carbon copy of the Lori Vallow prosecution. They use
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Speaker 1: the same exact foundation to go after Vallow. And we
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Speaker 1: all know that that turned out to be very, very successful. 11.39 a.m.
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Speaker 1: The first slide on the screen shows key locations in
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Speaker 1: and around the city of Rexburg, including the Salem Church,
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Speaker 1: the Daybell property, Walmart, BYU, Idaho Library, and Lori's apartment. 11.41 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood is having some technical difficulties prior as for a sidebar.
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Speaker 1: He gets up to meet with Boyce and Blake as
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Speaker 1: core tech people go to assist Wood. 11.46 a.m. We're
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Speaker 1: going to break for lunch while the tech issues get
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Speaker 1: sorted out. We're just going to roll through and we're
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Speaker 1: going to finish out the day in this episode. 12.36 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Back in the courtroom. Larry Woodcock just passed out mints
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Speaker 1: to several people in the gallery. Kay is not here today. 12.41 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Two deputies just set up a table in front of
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Speaker 1: the jury. They are in their seats and Daniels is
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Speaker 1: on the stand. We see a photo of Chad's house
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Speaker 1: with a vehicle parked in the driveway. 12.43 p.m. The
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Speaker 1: next slide shows a photo taken from the second story
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Speaker 1: window looking toward a tree. JJ's remains were found under
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Speaker 1: the tree. There was a trailer parked near the tree.
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Speaker 1: It was a law enforcement trailer. Another photo from the
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Speaker 1: second story shows the view of the property from the
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Speaker 1: other direction. 12.45pm The next photo shows the view out
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Speaker 1: of the kitchen window. You can see the barn and
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Speaker 1: beyond the barn is Tylee Ryan's burial site and the
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Speaker 1: fire pit. Now we see an image of the property
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Speaker 1: taken from one of the bedrooms at the house. 12.47pm
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Speaker 1: We now see a satellite image of the property Daniels
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Speaker 1: points out the fire pit and the area near the tree,
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Speaker 1: where they had the telephone pings. Law enforcement did not
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Speaker 1: exactly know where the pet cemetery was located on the property. 12.48 p.m.
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Speaker 1: The next satellite image is a close-up of the fire pit.
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Speaker 1: The location of Tylee's grave is noted, along with the
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Speaker 1: spot where her charm was found. 12.51 p.m. Law enforcement
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Speaker 1: found a dog statue on the property and noticed some
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Speaker 1: depressions in the ground underneath. We see an image of
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Speaker 1: the grids police made on the property. 12.53 p.m. We
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Speaker 1: see a photo of exactly what the fire pit looked
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Speaker 1: like on June 9th. Daniel says the fire pit was
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Speaker 1: processed layer by layer. Then began by removing limbs and
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Speaker 1: then went through each layer one at a time. A
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Speaker 1: tarp was put down and wooden sifters were brought in
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Speaker 1: to sort through the soil. 12.56 p.m. A picture of
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Speaker 1: the fire pit with soil and rocks removed is now shown.
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Speaker 1: The next image is a metal necklace type of chain
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Speaker 1: found in the fire pit. Possible bone fragments and other
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Speaker 1: items were found in the fire pit. 12.58 p.m. The
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Speaker 1: next photo shows the silver charm that was collected in
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Speaker 1: the fire pit. This was one of the first pieces
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Speaker 1: of evidence we collected on June 9th. Daniel says the
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Speaker 1: charm was found just outside of the grid perimeter. The
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Speaker 1: next picture is a closer view of the charm. 12.59 p.m.
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Speaker 1: The charm was moved and put on a piece of
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Speaker 1: paper next to a placard marked with number 1. 101 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Some physical evidence will now be brought into the courtroom.
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Speaker 1: 102 p.m. A deputy wearing gloves brings in the pieces
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Speaker 1: of evidence. They are given to John Pryor for inspection
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Speaker 1: and then taken to Daniels on the witness stand. 103 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Daniels is wearing rubber gloves. He opens the exhibit and
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Speaker 1: we learn the piece of evidence is the necklace chain.
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Speaker 1: The other exhibit is the charm found at the fire pit.
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Speaker 1: 107 p.m. Wood displays the chain on the big screen
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Speaker 1: to the jury. The chain says Pura Vida. The team
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Speaker 1: found the chain while sifting through soil. Wood displays the
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Speaker 1: charm on the screen. Wood shows a photo of Tylee
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Speaker 1: and the picture Tylee is wearing the chain with the charm.
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Speaker 1: 1111 p.m. We now see an image of part of
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Speaker 1: the pet cemetery. Dog and cat remains were found in
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Speaker 1: the general area. The spot was processed by hand. going
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Speaker 1: layer by layer. The dog and cat remains were removed.
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Speaker 1: A backhoe was brought in to go deeper. Tylee's burial
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Speaker 1: site was just north of the pet cemetery site. 1.12 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Boyce says graphic photos will not be shown. The jury, prosecution,
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Speaker 1: and defense will see the images, but the public and
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Speaker 1: livestream will not. 1.15 p.m. Daniels describes the next photo.
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Speaker 1: It shows one of the two vertebrae found at the scene.
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Speaker 1: Daniels says around this time, there was a smell of
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Speaker 1: human decomposition. 1.17 p.m. By this point, the police had
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Speaker 1: already found JJ's burial site. Hand tools were brought in
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Speaker 1: at this point. The next photo shows a large white
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Speaker 1: piece of bone. This was Tylee's burial site. 1.19 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Daniel describes the next photo, which shows charred flesh. Shovels, rakes,
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Speaker 1: and a variety of other smaller tools were used at
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Speaker 1: this point. 1.21 p.m. The next photo shows pieces of Tylee.
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Speaker 1: These were the first pieces that we were able to say,
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Speaker 1: these are human remains. Crew started to wrap up for
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Speaker 1: the day and the remains went to the coroner. Jurors
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Speaker 1: are closely looking at the monitors in front of them
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Speaker 1: and some are taking notes. 1.23 p.m. The next picture
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Speaker 1: shows charring pink flesh, Daniel says. Daniels describes the following
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Speaker 1: photo of what the scene looked like on June 10th. 1.24 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Daniels describes orange stakes that were put up around Tylee's
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Speaker 1: burial site. The photo shows one of the wooden sifters. 1.26 p.m.
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Speaker 1: The next photo shows a melted green bucket. At the
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Speaker 1: bottom of the picture is Tylee's skull. The oil on
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Speaker 1: the top side, there was a harder substance to it
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Speaker 1: that made it difficult for us to excavate. Daniels believed
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Speaker 1: it could have been concrete, so a backhoe was brought
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Speaker 1: in to move it. 1.28 p.m. Daniels describes close-up photos
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Speaker 1: of the melted green bucket and the skull. When the
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Speaker 1: team went into the ground to remove the remains, they
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Speaker 1: fell apart, according to Daniels. He says everything fell to pieces,
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Speaker 1: and they picked them up and they put them into
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Speaker 1: the body bag. 1.31 p.m. An anthropologist went through the
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Speaker 1: remains once they were all removed. Daniels describes a photo
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Speaker 1: of some bricks that were found at the burial site. 1.32 p.m.
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Speaker 1: The backhoe went a little deeper and wider in the
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Speaker 1: burial site to make sure police had everything. Once the
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Speaker 1: backhoe was done, the animal remains were put back in
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Speaker 1: and the area was filled up with dirt. 1.35 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood displays a photo. Daniels describes it as the garage
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Speaker 1: barn on Daybell's property. Daniels was interested in what tools
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Speaker 1: could be used to bury someone. 1.37 p.m. The next
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Speaker 1: few photos show tools lined up in the garage. After
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Speaker 1: a brief sidebar, Boyce says there will be no afternoon
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Speaker 1: break today, but court will dismiss in about 30 minutes.
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Speaker 1: There are no more graphic pictures today, so everything will
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Speaker 1: now be displayed on the big screen. 1.42 p.m. We
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Speaker 1: now see an image of shovels and other tools that
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Speaker 1: were taken as evidence. These are the tools most likely
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Speaker 1: used in the burial, Daniel says. There is now a
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Speaker 1: solo photo of a pickaxe. There was debris on the
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Speaker 1: blade of the pick and other black marks. 1.44 p.m.
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Speaker 1: A photo that shows two shovels as evidence is shown
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Speaker 1: on the screen. Other tools were taken. A saw, clippers,
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Speaker 1: an axe. Tools that could have been used to do
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Speaker 1: something to human remains that were found, Daniel says. 1.45 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Wood displays more photos showing tools in the garage. 1.47 p.m.
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Speaker 1: All tools were turned over to the Rexburg Police Department.
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Speaker 1: Wood moves to admit some physical evidence. A police officer
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Speaker 1: and deputy bring in tools. Daniels approaches the table wearing
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Speaker 1: gloves and will testify holding a microphone. 1.49 p.m. Daniels
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Speaker 1: unwraps the pick and holds it up in front of
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Speaker 1: the jury. Daniels says the pick was dirty. Daniels unwraps
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Speaker 1: the next exhibit. It's a shovel. 1.52 p.m. Daniel says
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Speaker 1: the shovel seems dirty and was a tool they were
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Speaker 1: interested in from the scene. The two pieces of evidence
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Speaker 1: are removed from the courtroom. Boyce says we will now
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Speaker 1: break until Monday. Alright, so, another interesting day at the
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Speaker 1: Chad Daybell trial, but again, in my opinion, same old,
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Speaker 1: same old. The prosecution continues to make its case, they
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Speaker 1: continue to slam it home, and I have no idea
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Speaker 1: how Chad Daybell thinks he's going to get out from
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Speaker 1: underneath all of this. But either way, we'll be following
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Speaker 1: along every step of the way until the jury provides
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Speaker 1: a verdict. All of the information that goes with this
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