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Speaker 1: episode of Disguise Coverage, pretty straightforward. As the episode description says,
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Speaker 1: and as the title indicates, we are headed into the
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Speaker 1: final week of the preseason for the Buffalo Bills. They
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Speaker 1: take on the Carolina Panthers this Saturday at one o'clock.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty certain of we'll also be doing a postgame
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Speaker 1: episode of Disguise Coverage immediately following that Bills versus Panthers
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Speaker 1: game on Saturday, so I shull probably figure out what
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Speaker 1: time it happens at. But as the past couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks we've done kind of who and what to watch
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Speaker 1: for heading into the games, Kendall Mursky has joined me
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Speaker 1: for those shows, and this week he is not. But
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Speaker 1: I thought instead of instead of doing that kind of
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Speaker 1: preview and who and what to watch for, I thought
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Speaker 1: it made more sense to do a roster projection for
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Speaker 1: this episode. A couple of people have hit me on
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Speaker 1: Twitter and in the show here. Major shout out to
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Speaker 1: Ted Truever on Twitter for asking me if I was
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Speaker 1: gonna be doing a roster prediction prediction show or projection show.
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Speaker 1: And this is kind of gonna end up being like that,
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Speaker 1: just with all the injuries that have hit the Bills.
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Speaker 1: And I don't want to make it sound super dramatic,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of them aren't dramatic in terms of
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Speaker 1: the players they happened to or in terms of the
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Speaker 1: length of the injuries themselves. But what those injuries have
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Speaker 1: done is muddy the roster projection for this team because
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Speaker 1: of the players they've happened to, the positions they've happened at,
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Speaker 1: and then also tying into that the potential timelines for
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Speaker 1: those injuries, which again just kind of muddies the whole
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Speaker 1: situation and puts it into a spot where it makes
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Speaker 1: who how many players they were gonna keep it super
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Speaker 1: at certain positions just a little harder to decipher, a
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Speaker 1: little harder to project, and again tying that into what
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Speaker 1: we've seen these first couple of preseason games, what we've
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Speaker 1: seen in training camp. Tying it all together, I thought
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Speaker 1: it will be fun episode to dive into the roster
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Speaker 1: projection in terms of risers, in terms of followers. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna be diving into some game tape tonight, which is
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Speaker 1: a very fun thing, and we're gonna look at some
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Speaker 1: specific examples from several of the players that were gonna
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Speaker 1: be talking about tonight to kind of put some things
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Speaker 1: into perspective for you folks, and using all of that
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Speaker 1: again to put in conjunction with the injuries, with certain timelines,
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Speaker 1: what it all means, why it matters, and all of
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Scott coming in first comment here
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Speaker 1: on the show, and Scott says, Buffalo Joe. Yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about Joe Andrees and tonight. Who I
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Speaker 1: don't want to get too much ahead of myself, but
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Speaker 1: he had a legitimately good football game against Pittsburgh. It's
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Speaker 1: not just you know, man, it's awesome because he went
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Speaker 1: to ub and man, it's even more awesome because he
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Speaker 1: grew up in Buffalo and all this stuff. It's not
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Speaker 1: just like a nice comforting, you know, warm story. He
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Speaker 1: legitimately had a good game. I don't think, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think and I think a lot of people kind
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Speaker 1: of recognize it too, in terms of the hyperbole which
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Speaker 1: he's being spoken about. And I do think, you know,
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Speaker 1: we do need more of a sample size for him,
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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about what kind of his
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Speaker 1: path to the to the roster, making the fifty three
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Speaker 1: man looks like in this episode, but he had a
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Speaker 1: legitimately good game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. What he was
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Speaker 1: doing against the run, the processing, the quick trigger, the physicality,
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Speaker 1: taking on blockers, and you know, stacking and shedding, ending,
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Speaker 1: keeping himself free, playing with leverage, you know, closing down
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Speaker 1: on justin fields multiple times in space. He had a
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Speaker 1: really good game. He also had a couple of really nice,
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Speaker 1: good coverage reps as well, but we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about that as this show goes along. He is one
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Speaker 1: of the risers, as I think a lot of people
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Speaker 1: would have expected in this episode, which is part of
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Speaker 1: the reason that he's on the graphic for this episode.
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Speaker 1: What's up, Matthew Matthews saying good evening, Bob's saying, let's go.
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Speaker 1: Just the tippy canoe who this is arguing this is
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite user names of anybody that comments.
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Speaker 1: I think I've told you that before, but it makes
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Speaker 1: me laugh every time I read it, and you're in
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Speaker 1: here all the time, but so that's even more of
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Speaker 1: a testament. It's how funny I find this name. The
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Speaker 1: comment is the safety room is just yucky. Right now,
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Speaker 1: but I think time will heal literally and figuratively. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it is yucky. That's a good way to put it.
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Speaker 1: I described it as kind of man, I really just
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Speaker 1: want to see how the dust settles. In terms of
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Speaker 1: the injuries. You know, Mike Edwards should be getting some
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Speaker 1: work as we go forward. How does Hamlin's hamstring work out?
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Speaker 1: What does Cole Bishop look like? All these pieces going forward,
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Speaker 1: But again that's a piece we're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: as we go going forward. John robertsoning, at least cold
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Speaker 1: Bishop was on the field wearing a non contact jersey.
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Speaker 1: Oh cool. Comment here from Steven Stevenson. I went to
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Speaker 1: school with Buffalo Joe's dad, Paul, tough dude. Kind of
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Speaker 1: makes sense that toughness breeds more toughness, and that's what
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Speaker 1: Joe Andriesen seems kind of like Frank saying, this prognostication
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Speaker 1: is difficult, not only because of the injuries, but also
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Speaker 1: because of all the bubble players from other teams that
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Speaker 1: hit the market. That's very well said, Frank. I think
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Speaker 1: every move that gets made within any team is also
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Speaker 1: kind of juxtaposed with potential moves you may see happening
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Speaker 1: from other teams and other rosters. I think just a
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Speaker 1: small example of that is the quarterback situation. I tweeted
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Speaker 1: it out today after Trubisky showed up with a rap
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Speaker 1: on his knee. His is an injury we're going to
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Speaker 1: talk about in this episode as well, but just kind
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Speaker 1: of the Bills, I don't think the backup QB of
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Speaker 1: this twenty twenty four season currently on the roster. I
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Speaker 1: would like this team to kind of keep an eye
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Speaker 1: on the roster cut market and go after any potential
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Speaker 1: quarterback that has legitimate backup capability. Again, as Greg and
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Speaker 1: I talked about in the post game Saturday, if Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen goes down, you're almost kind of pretty much dead
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Speaker 1: in the water if you're the Bills, But you want
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Speaker 1: to stem the tide as much as possible. And Tramiskey
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Speaker 1: didn't look great even before he went down, but at
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Speaker 1: least he did have experience on his side, and you
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Speaker 1: kind of knew what you were getting. Just everything else
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Speaker 1: coming after, you know, and then looking at Anthony Brown
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Speaker 1: this week, what we saw from Denucci on Saturday, and
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Speaker 1: how much they run on the ball, it's a really
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Speaker 1: ugly situation when it comes to the Bills quarterback spot
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Speaker 1: right now. So I would that's just one example of
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Speaker 1: kind of looking to the h you know, the roster
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Speaker 1: cuts from other teams and potentially kind of filling a
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Speaker 1: need for your squad and also matching it up with
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Speaker 1: your needs and theirs and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 1: John saying the state of preseason depression among Bills fans
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Speaker 1: right now is the worst I've ever seen, drought included. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's an interesting mix. I think the kind of preseason
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Speaker 1: depression we've seen amongst Bill's Mafia in the past several
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Speaker 1: weeks is kind of the universe balance balancing itself out.
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Speaker 1: With all the high highs that Bill's Mafia had during
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Speaker 1: training camp from day one, and just the hype of
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Speaker 1: man Keon Coleman's making highlight real catches and everything the
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Speaker 1: offense was doing, and you know, Josh Allen looking good
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Speaker 1: and the offense being on the same page, and Ray
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Speaker 1: Davis looking good minus a couple fumbles and so on
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Speaker 1: and so forth. I think, you know, Bill's fans hit
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Speaker 1: a lot of highs at that time, and so I
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Speaker 1: think the low lows now were just the universe kind
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Speaker 1: of balancing out to bring everything back to and even Keel.
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Speaker 1: Also for those folks playing at home, for all of
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Speaker 1: you joining me live here on this episode, as you've
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Speaker 1: already seen, as we start to get into some of
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Speaker 1: the comments here from the live chat, if you are
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Speaker 1: watching live at home, feel free to comment into the
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Speaker 1: chat your risers, your followers, who has disappointed you, who's
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Speaker 1: exceeded your expectations, roster projections and not prognostications that you
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Speaker 1: may have for this team, or your thoughts on my
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Speaker 1: risers and fallers, any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything and
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Speaker 1: chat at any time or place. I guess place doesn't
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Speaker 1: Two the color attracts my eyes and pulls me away
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Speaker 1: from my notes. Let's continue. Ooh comment here's saying Andy
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Speaker 1: is a Bella over kJ Hamler. That's a tough one
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Speaker 1: for me. I feel I understand where you're coming from, though,
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Speaker 1: but it's a tough one. Depressed Bills fan says time
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Speaker 1: for the d line to step up instead of leaning
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Speaker 1: on the secondary. I think that's a fair point. And
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Speaker 1: you know, if how Greg Russau played Saturday against the
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Speaker 1: Steelers is any potential indication maybe the defensive line is
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Speaker 1: ready to step it up. Just Tifica new says about
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Speaker 1: his name, I got a trademark just in case anybody
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Speaker 1: in Indiana ever tries to use it. It's lame, but
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Speaker 1: most of my uploads are literally just videos of the
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Speaker 1: river at my I love it. That makes me like
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Speaker 1: it even more. That's fantastic, that's fantastic. Question here from
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Speaker 1: the chat. Who is the kick returner punt returner? Is
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Speaker 1: it wrapped up by Hardy? I thought, and or still
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Speaker 1: think Hamdler might have a say in that competition. I
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Speaker 1: thought Hardy looked good against Pittsburgh, But I know what
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Speaker 1: was it his second or third return of the night
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Speaker 1: where he backtracked kind of like all the way to
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Speaker 1: the one yard line. Got himself out of it by
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Speaker 1: going up to the sideline and turning the corner. But
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Speaker 1: that's not going to make Sean McDermott happy, or you know,
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Speaker 1: coach Smiley, even though again he got himself out of
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Speaker 1: it and had a nice follow up return right after
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Speaker 1: two returns after. I think what's nice with Hardy is Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think he's got inside outside versatility. Him showing well
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Speaker 1: on the outside at the cornerback spot, which was a
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Speaker 1: huge surprise to me, just given where he worked at
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Speaker 1: Penn State and his play style, skill set, and his
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Speaker 1: overall size and frame. Seeing him play on the outside,
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Speaker 1: you know he's comfortable playing on the inside. But again,
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Speaker 1: I think that size and frame might hurt him a
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Speaker 1: little bit more inside from a fit to run standpoint,
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Speaker 1: But I think you get inside outside versatility and the
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Speaker 1: return capability as well. I think that kind of makes
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Speaker 1: you lean towards Hardy. I think Hardy, you know kind
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Speaker 1: of where's this comment? I just want a bunch of
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Speaker 1: comments came through? Hold on, let me stop here? Where
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Speaker 1: is it? Where is it? Where is it? Matthew saying
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Speaker 1: is Hardy a lock to make the team? I do
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Speaker 1: think he is a lock to make the team with
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Speaker 1: how well he's played, mainly because he gives you corner
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Speaker 1: depth on the outside and on the inside, and then
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Speaker 1: he also can be your starting returner. I think he's
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Speaker 1: looked good at the return spot, so that in and
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Speaker 1: of itself has value, but the fact that he also
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Speaker 1: can I don't want to call him like one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent lock lock, but I think he's played well from
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Speaker 1: an actual corner standpoint, and then he's got the returner
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Speaker 1: upside as well. And then there's baked in value at
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Speaker 1: having a guy who can play outside and inside at
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Speaker 1: the cornerback spot and also be your part returner and
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Speaker 1: kick returner. That's four positions locked up into one dude,
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Speaker 1: which is really nice. And when you're a team that's
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Speaker 1: kind of trying to balance all these one to three
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Speaker 1: or four week injuries that you have, having to do
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Speaker 1: that can do all that gives you a lot of
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Speaker 1: flexibility in general, but especially with those injuries and then
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Speaker 1: going into the early part of the season. But I
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Speaker 1: think that's fair. Scott's saying lots of handoffs this Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Frank Gore Junior think he'll make the practice squad. I
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Speaker 1: really hope he does. I really like what Frank Gord
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Speaker 1: Junior has brought to this team. Then I'm not just
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Speaker 1: saying that because of who his dad is or from
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Speaker 1: like a nostalgia or legacy perspective. He's looked good, good vision,
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Speaker 1: good feet, runs behind his pads, good power keeps his
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Speaker 1: feet moving through contact, and his legs pushing. Good cuts,
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Speaker 1: Just decisive foot in the ground, shaking guys like not
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Speaker 1: the most wiggled to his game, but the precision in
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Speaker 1: his cuts will send dudes flying, gets north, north and south.
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Speaker 1: It just he gets what's there and then gets a
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Speaker 1: little more because of his ability to play through contact.
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Speaker 1: I would really like it if he made the practice squad.
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Speaker 1: I would be very happy with that. I think he's
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Speaker 1: played well this preseason, and he had a really good
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Speaker 1: game against the Steelers, as did pretty much the entire
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Speaker 1: running back group, even though Cooke didn't have a ton
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Speaker 1: of volume. Cook look good, Davis look good, Gore look good.
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Speaker 1: Darrnton Evans had some really nice runs. Even the one
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Speaker 1: run for Ty Johnson then went for like six yards.
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Speaker 1: They got some good depth of the running back spot.
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Speaker 1: Roy saying, in my opinion, this is not a super
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Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team, so I'm not overly concerned with the
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Speaker 1: injuries and their effect on the team's success this season,
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Speaker 1: although they do suck exclamation point there. I guess kind
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Speaker 1: of your your feeling about the injuries is to would
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Speaker 1: be tied into you know how you feel about the season,
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Speaker 1: or you know your thoughts on the projection for this
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Speaker 1: team in general. Oh gotta stop here, you got a
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Speaker 1: super chat. Appreciate you being here, Carl. Thank you very
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Speaker 1: much for the super chet, Carl says, And we know
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Speaker 1: one through forty nine. Who do you think will be
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Speaker 1: fifty through fifty three? Oh, it's we're gonna talk about
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Speaker 1: that in the episode. I really think I think it's
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Speaker 1: tied into several positions. I think it's tied into a
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Speaker 1: couple of injuries that we're going to go through to
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Speaker 1: start this episode after I finished getting through some more
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Speaker 1: comments here. Kyle Trimble at Banged Up Bills on Twitter
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Speaker 1: and banged Up Bills dot Com does a tremendous job
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Speaker 1: of injury analysis timelines and just getting into the nitty
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Speaker 1: gritty in terms of the details of what injuries are
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Speaker 1: for players, regardless of what the injury is, and so
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Speaker 1: as we get into that, I think that's going to
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Speaker 1: kind of put some things into perspective, because I think
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Speaker 1: the fifty through fifty three is really determined by the
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Speaker 1: timeline of certain players at certain positions, mainly Quinton Morris mvs.
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Speaker 1: Tying in the tight end, wide receiver room, the linebacker position.
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Speaker 1: I think all of that kind of will lean this
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Speaker 1: team towards who they keep and why, and the gamesmanship
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Speaker 1: they have to play in terms of who's on the
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Speaker 1: fifty three, who's on the practice squad, who do they
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Speaker 1: put on ir We're going to go through all those
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Speaker 1: rules and sets. That's a really good question. I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of it's going to be tied into the injury,
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Speaker 1: not even diagnosis, but by kind of what happened seeing
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Speaker 1: these injuries through going forward, which again muddies this conversation
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Speaker 1: and makes it super annoying, but really good question, Carl,
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Speaker 1: I like that. Oh and see this is fair back
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Speaker 1: and forth. My name is Jeff saying the training staff
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Speaker 1: is disappointed me, and then John Sanders come through, comes
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Speaker 1: through and says the training staff has nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with bad luck. Yeah, it's I mean Mitch or Mitch Morse.
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Speaker 1: Like the way Morris went down that was kind of
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Speaker 1: just contact. You can't really prevent that. Similar with Trubisky,
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Speaker 1: similar with Milano. Like I think there's something to be
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Speaker 1: said for soft tissue injuries occurring, but this team, for
15:37
Speaker 1: the most part, under Sean McDermott, has been relatively healthy
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Speaker 1: over the years. They've had a couple of fluke injuries
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Speaker 1: or freak things like what happened to Milana, what happened
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Speaker 1: to Micah Hyde, But really they've been a team that
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the offensive line last year, keeping
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Speaker 1: that starting five healthy for the entirety of the year.
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Speaker 1: It's wild. Yeah, just kind of what they're being hit
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Speaker 1: with now, but hopefully everything they're seeing, they're getting hit
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Speaker 1: with a lot of volume, but not a lot of significance,
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Speaker 1: you know, fingers crossed, no jinks here, So we'll see
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Speaker 1: what kind of that looks like going forward. Sophia, I
16:08
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here, She says. Good Cover one insider
16:10
Speaker 1: news that Samuel's turf toe is very mild. He would
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Speaker 1: likely be back week one or week two. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tie that into some injury analysis later, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll kind of see how that works out. Ano. There's
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Speaker 1: some more love here for Dai Kwon Hardy, saying that
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Speaker 1: he's been a huge revelation. Oh, this is a really
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Speaker 1: good comment. We're going to talk about this in the show.
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for the back end wide receivers. This
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Speaker 1: QB situation doesn't give any of them a chance to
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Speaker 1: showcase in a game setting. But I'm sure the reps
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Speaker 1: with Josh in practice is what they will go off
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Speaker 1: of more Anyway. I know I kind of watched that
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Speaker 1: in Yam, but I know that's just the way he said,
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm right there with you. It's especially when
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Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation has been like, oh, I
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Speaker 1: wonder what the wide receiver grouping looks like this year,
16:47
Speaker 1: all the competition for wide receiver five and wide receiver
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Speaker 1: six and YadA YadA. So much of that is dependent
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Speaker 1: upon the QB play and the Bills have not gotten
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Speaker 1: good QB two and or QB three play. And that's
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Speaker 1: not even I don't even want to put the new
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Speaker 1: into that category because him coming in basically midweek and
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Speaker 1: having to run an offense for the majority of the
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Speaker 1: game because Trubisky went down. You're just gonna run the ball.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to put him into a situation where
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Speaker 1: he's almost set up for failure and could hurt himself
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Speaker 1: or hurt someone else. So I you know, that's no
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Speaker 1: discredit to him, it's just been you know, Buchelle was
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Speaker 1: ugly in his in his play and Trubisky wasn't looking great,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel you on that. It's pretty pretty frustrating.
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Speaker 1: Oh Jason said, would you take Gore or Evans if
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Speaker 1: you had to pick one? Marino had high props for Evans.
17:35
Speaker 1: Darrenton Evans has legitimate juice and like real speed, and
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Speaker 1: he's more of a known quantity. I would take Gore.
17:45
Speaker 1: But if the top three running backs are Cook, Davis,
17:48
Speaker 1: and Johnson, I like how Evans's skill set compliments them,
17:53
Speaker 1: But I would take Gore just from a youth standpoint
17:56
Speaker 1: and a play style and skill set standpoint. I think
17:59
Speaker 1: he fits with what the Bills do from a run
18:02
Speaker 1: game standpoint, especially now, like if they go heavier personnel
18:06
Speaker 1: or condensed formations with the bigger bodied wide receivers that
18:08
Speaker 1: they have, and they want to get downhill and they
18:10
Speaker 1: want to run at teams and try and create vertical
18:12
Speaker 1: displacement and then pairing that with their zone run scheme.
18:15
Speaker 1: I think he's a good fit for that. But Darrnton
18:16
Speaker 1: Evans has done well, like I legitimately think it might
18:21
Speaker 1: not be high end, Like I don't think Darrington Evans
18:23
Speaker 1: is never going to be like a one or even
18:24
Speaker 1: a high end two, but he should be on an
18:26
Speaker 1: NFL roster like he just produces. He's got good feet,
18:29
Speaker 1: he's fast. You can always find use for dudes like that.
18:34
Speaker 1: He also has some returnability as well, if you ever
18:35
Speaker 1: need that. Just the typical news saying, I think the
18:40
Speaker 1: dynamic of the bottom few spots of the fifty three
18:42
Speaker 1: will affect which positions we keep an extra spot over another.
18:45
Speaker 1: Hardy is a perfect example. By keeping him, maybe it
18:48
Speaker 1: affects how many wide receivers would keep exactly because you
18:50
Speaker 1: have that positional versatility and value with four spots wrapped
18:54
Speaker 1: into one for Hardy, it basically allows you to keep
18:56
Speaker 1: another one or two guys potentially one from Tim jasaying
19:00
Speaker 1: God bills and he's got a lion's logo, which is
19:02
Speaker 1: very interesting. I'm all down for that, ah. I like
19:05
Speaker 1: Franzo Qatayan and the Babylon Spector references that. I'm all
19:08
Speaker 1: for Buffalo Joe over Babylon. I take the unknown over
19:11
Speaker 1: the broken Ooh harsh for Babylon Spector. We will get
19:14
Speaker 1: into that. David saying, I just hope Alan doesn't have
19:18
Speaker 1: to do it all during a playoff stretch November run.
19:20
Speaker 1: I don't want his career short by beast moving in
19:24
Speaker 1: November and December, Fair Fair Fair Fair um bum Luke,
19:32
Speaker 1: saying any early intriguing players as mid season editions got
19:35
Speaker 1: to see how the roster roster cut shakeout over the
19:37
Speaker 1: next couple weeks. But there are something I'm keeping my
19:39
Speaker 1: eye on. I think it is this question. I know
19:41
Speaker 1: this is probably unlikely, but based on some rubblings, how
19:44
Speaker 1: would you feel about a potential Jahan Dotson trade. I
19:46
Speaker 1: love it, I would love it. I love his tape
19:50
Speaker 1: at Penn State. He was Oh, I gotta remember. I
19:54
Speaker 1: think he was my wide receiver five that year. I
19:58
Speaker 1: think I had a mid and a high receiver wide
20:01
Speaker 1: receiver round two. Great on him. I think he crept
20:03
Speaker 1: up into my wide receiver five when he came out
20:06
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, because that was the Drake
20:07
Speaker 1: London class. Garrett Wilson was my one, London was my two.
20:11
Speaker 1: Olave was my three. I forget who my four was.
20:14
Speaker 1: It wasn't Traylon Burks, it was Dotson. I like Jahan
20:16
Speaker 1: dots and I think he's a really good route runner.
20:18
Speaker 1: He plays big at the catch point. I think the
20:22
Speaker 1: only issue is kind of his fit in the offense
20:24
Speaker 1: given his frame and style and skill set, how that
20:28
Speaker 1: pairs with what they have. But I have no problem
20:32
Speaker 1: trying to add a dude who is a really good
20:33
Speaker 1: route runner with really good hands, who plays big at
20:35
Speaker 1: the catch point. I'm a fan of Jahan Dotson and
20:39
Speaker 1: Jason saying yeah, Darrenton Evan's yeah. His return ability is
20:42
Speaker 1: what makes it harder to choose. I think it definitely
20:43
Speaker 1: factors in. It's part of what gives him value. I
20:45
Speaker 1: think he's a He's a good dude. This is a
20:48
Speaker 1: great comment. Arm sleeve Josh equals MVP Josh. I'm digging
20:50
Speaker 1: the arm sleeve. He's got to go with a different
20:52
Speaker 1: color though, if they're if they're rocking the all whites,
20:54
Speaker 1: I don't like the all white arm sleep. If they're
20:57
Speaker 1: rocking all whites, it's got to be a blue arm sleep,
20:59
Speaker 1: or I ideally give me that Paparett. Give me a
21:02
Speaker 1: red arm sleeve. Either way, give me the red arm
21:06
Speaker 1: sleeve with the all whites, give me the red arm
21:08
Speaker 1: sleeve with the all blues, or a blue white combo
21:11
Speaker 1: or a white blue combo. Give me a red arm sleeve.
21:13
Speaker 1: I like the arm sleeve in theory, Yeah, I need
21:17
Speaker 1: the paparette. I need that color. Don't just go all white.
21:19
Speaker 1: Although the all white is crisp and clean, I need
21:21
Speaker 1: that Papa color. It adds a little something more. Ope,
21:24
Speaker 1: we got a super chat from Scott. Thank you for
21:26
Speaker 1: being here, Scott, and thank you for the super chat.
21:28
Speaker 1: Scott says, any chance we go five wide receivers and
21:33
Speaker 1: four tight ends, I have some thoughts on that, and
21:39
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it kind of as we go forward,
21:41
Speaker 1: because a couple of the risers I have are at
21:43
Speaker 1: the tight end position and I think that factors into
21:47
Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot. So we are going to get
21:49
Speaker 1: into that as we go forward. But I think that's
21:51
Speaker 1: a very fair question, especially given one of the tight
21:54
Speaker 1: ends being Zach Davidson and what his skill set is.
21:56
Speaker 1: But we're gonna we're gonna talk about that as we
21:58
Speaker 1: go forward. Yeah, red sleeve read in all caps as
22:02
Speaker 1: a game changer. It absolutely is a game changer. All right,
22:06
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23:55
Speaker 1: the conversation with the edge position. I do think there's
23:59
Speaker 1: a chance that von Miller, who has looked like he's
24:02
Speaker 1: had some juice in training camp, I think he could
24:05
Speaker 1: flirt potentially on the high end with a double digit
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Speaker 1: sax season. I think Vaughn could be in the eight
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Speaker 1: to eleven range, somewhere around there, maybe seven to ten,
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Speaker 1: eight to eleven. I would like Evanessa to be in
24:14
Speaker 1: that conversation as well, but I think, just from a
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Speaker 1: known quantity standpoint, I think Greg Russou is the best
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills player to approach double digit sacks, and so
24:23
Speaker 1: for me, I think this over five and a half
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Speaker 1: is pretty easy. I think he's gonna be a volume
24:27
Speaker 1: guy in stretches. I don't think he's going to be
24:28
Speaker 1: a dude who gets like a sack of game, which
24:31
Speaker 1: would be a wild rate. But I think you might
24:33
Speaker 1: see him get three sacks one game and then he
24:36
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything for the next three, and then he
24:38
Speaker 1: logs two, and then he logs another two, and then
24:40
Speaker 1: nothing for the next two or four games, and then
24:42
Speaker 1: logs another three. Like he's going to get those matchups
24:45
Speaker 1: that he can exploit because of his length and strength
24:48
Speaker 1: and frame. And we saw it on Saturday against the Steelers,
24:51
Speaker 1: right his ability to kind of get into the chest,
24:53
Speaker 1: the risk control that he exhibited, the technique that he's
24:57
Speaker 1: paired with, the length and frame that he offers. He
25:00
Speaker 1: is a really really really really nice combination. And he's
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Speaker 1: somebody who's extremely smart. He has very good high football IQ.
25:07
Speaker 1: You know, just watching him be able to display that
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Speaker 1: when he jumped in the film with myself and Eric,
25:13
Speaker 1: he knows how to pass or just just a matter
25:15
Speaker 1: of can you stay healthy not get those wheels banked up,
25:18
Speaker 1: ankle stuff, feet stuff, So hopefully you know he can
25:21
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But it's a very encouraging performance from him
25:24
Speaker 1: on Saturday against the Steelers starters really working Broderick Jones
25:28
Speaker 1: handily getting him off his feet completely on the one sack,
25:32
Speaker 1: and then a really good risk control to pop them
25:34
Speaker 1: prime open for the other. Very encouraged to kind of
25:37
Speaker 1: see how he's played, and so he's technically a riser
25:41
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25:43
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Speaker 1: let us start to move into some of this conversation.
26:04
Speaker 1: The first thing I want to do again just all
26:08
Speaker 1: the injuries we've talked about, how it muddies this whole
26:11
Speaker 1: conversation that we're about to have. I'm going to go
26:13
Speaker 1: through pretty much everything right now at this point, just
26:17
Speaker 1: kind of put things into perspective. I'm going to reference
26:20
Speaker 1: this consistent point. So if you are joining later, I
26:23
Speaker 1: guess you're not gonna see what I'm about to say.
26:25
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to keep going back and referencing
26:26
Speaker 1: all the injuries. But I wanted to kind of put
26:29
Speaker 1: this into perspective because I think this sets the table
26:31
Speaker 1: for us going forward. Again, a lot of this conversation,
26:33
Speaker 1: not even a lot of it. All of this injury
26:35
Speaker 1: conversation that we're having is courtesy of mister Banged Up
26:38
Speaker 1: Bills Kyle Trimble. Find him on Twitter at Banged Up Bills. Actually,
26:43
Speaker 1: let me confirm that Twitter handle for him and make
26:46
Speaker 1: sure there's not any underscores or anything. Nope, it's straight
26:50
Speaker 1: up at Banged Up Bills. And then you have the
26:52
Speaker 1: website as well, ab which is just Banged Up Bills
26:55
Speaker 1: dot com. So we're gonna go through a bunch of
26:56
Speaker 1: the injuries. This is all courtesy of his Buffalo Bills
26:59
Speaker 1: preseason urgency injury update from yesterday. Because the avalanche of
27:04
Speaker 1: Bill's injuries, We're gonna start with Quintin Morris. He's week
27:08
Speaker 1: to week with a shoulder injury again. And I want
27:09
Speaker 1: to say this, so these injuries I'm going to be
27:11
Speaker 1: speaking on and reading off the diagnosis, timelines, timetables, all
27:15
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It sets the table for some
27:18
Speaker 1: of these risers and some of these followers that we're
27:21
Speaker 1: having in this conversation, and then it ties into that
27:23
Speaker 1: roster projection piece again because of who do you keep
27:27
Speaker 1: and why do you keep them? Based on timelines, based
27:30
Speaker 1: on again the whole muddiness of everything. There isn't that
27:33
Speaker 1: easy cut and dry of and not that I want this,
27:36
Speaker 1: but it isn't that easy cut and dry. Well, SO
27:38
Speaker 1: and so's out for the year, so he's got to
27:40
Speaker 1: be replaced. It's more of Okay, SO and sos out
27:43
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Do we put them on
27:45
Speaker 1: the IR do we not? Who do we replace them with?
27:48
Speaker 1: What's the role, what's the skill set? Not to mention
27:52
Speaker 1: these injuries happening to guys that are kind of death
27:57
Speaker 1: guys and in the conversation and not in asscessarily known
28:00
Speaker 1: starters or guides that are going to be jettison from
28:03
Speaker 1: the team and cut anyways. It's just it's a very
28:06
Speaker 1: complicated aspect. But Kyle did a tremendous job here. So
28:10
Speaker 1: Quinton Morris week to week with a shoulder injury after
28:12
Speaker 1: being ruled out during halftime of Saturday's game. The initial
28:15
Speaker 1: thought was that he suffered an ac joint sprain that
28:18
Speaker 1: he continued to play through, but with the severity increased,
28:21
Speaker 1: Kyle went back and rewatched the tape so a closer look.
28:26
Speaker 1: For Kyle, he found a more likely instance for a
28:28
Speaker 1: more severe injuries, such as a labrum tear when he
28:31
Speaker 1: fell in the end zone right before halftime. If he
28:34
Speaker 1: did tear the laborum, he could possibly return with a
28:36
Speaker 1: harness and play through the injury, but there would still
28:38
Speaker 1: be significant concerns with his ability to block and catch
28:41
Speaker 1: the ball in traffic. This will require more information in
28:45
Speaker 1: the coming days, as the team is also undergoing further
28:47
Speaker 1: evaluations on Morris, with a decision expected soon. And then
28:52
Speaker 1: he just talks a lot of scientific stuff, you know,
28:55
Speaker 1: much higher risk of further damage to the labor room
28:58
Speaker 1: with subluxations and pations, all these types of things. I
29:03
Speaker 1: think what's interesting with Quinton Morris is I feel good
29:07
Speaker 1: coming here from Bills are Electric saying you feel bad
29:09
Speaker 1: for Quentin Morris having a great summer. Quentin Morris is
29:12
Speaker 1: a really good all around tight end three. And I
29:14
Speaker 1: don't say really good because he's just this plus matchup.
29:17
Speaker 1: He's a he's functional as a run blocker, and he's
29:21
Speaker 1: functional as a pass catcher. He's good with both. The
29:24
Speaker 1: options after him are going to be some of the
29:26
Speaker 1: guys we talked about tonight, either Trey McKitty, Zach Davidson.
29:29
Speaker 1: Both of those guys are more siloed in their skill sets,
29:31
Speaker 1: whereas Morris, again, he can he can function an insert
29:36
Speaker 1: on duo. He can get vertical. I mean, you should
29:38
Speaker 1: have had a touchdown in Week one, you know from
29:41
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky. He had that touchdown last year from Josh
29:43
Speaker 1: Allen against the Giants. You know his background as a receiver,
29:45
Speaker 1: what he's been able to do in transition in his
29:47
Speaker 1: game as a run blocker. He's just such a perfect
29:50
Speaker 1: tight end three because he can function as a pass
29:52
Speaker 1: catcher and as a run blocker. If he's out, that's
29:56
Speaker 1: kind of really unfortunate because what you're left with in
29:59
Speaker 1: replacing him in either guy that we're going to talk
30:01
Speaker 1: about tonight is more of a siloed aspect in a
30:06
Speaker 1: more siloed skill set, a skill set, I should say,
30:09
Speaker 1: than a kind of overall skill set like you have
30:13
Speaker 1: with Quinton Morris. Who else I want to talk about here,
30:18
Speaker 1: Marcus Valdez scantling neck injury, which was pretty scary on Saturday.
30:23
Speaker 1: It's always I'm always terrified anytime I see anybody go
30:26
Speaker 1: down with their neck and as Kyle notes, he did
30:29
Speaker 1: not require the backboard to leave the field, but he
30:31
Speaker 1: did require assistance to walk off the field. There was
30:37
Speaker 1: what he talks about here. The hit came to the
30:39
Speaker 1: right side of his helmet, which snapped the head left,
30:42
Speaker 1: suggesting at least a stinger, if not more of a
30:44
Speaker 1: whiplash injury. On Sunday, Tom Pelsero announced that MBS suffered
30:48
Speaker 1: a next brain with negative X rays. He's been deemed
30:52
Speaker 1: week to week, which is not an ideal situation for
30:54
Speaker 1: a veteran fighting for a roster spot. You're looking at
30:56
Speaker 1: a hyper extension or looking at hyper extension injuries of
30:59
Speaker 1: the net fractures have already been ruled out, but considering
31:02
Speaker 1: this is a next spring that implies that ligaments are
31:05
Speaker 1: involved when a hyper extension injury occurs. Who I'm trying
31:09
Speaker 1: to pronounce this right, The anterior longitudinal ligament or all
31:14
Speaker 1: can be damaged, and Kyle has a lot of great
31:16
Speaker 1: graphics up on the site there and then he mentions
31:19
Speaker 1: other structures potentially damage include the analyst fibrosis or the
31:25
Speaker 1: outside portion of an intervertebral disc or facet Capsular ligaments
31:30
Speaker 1: could be in play. Fancy way to say all that
31:33
Speaker 1: to say, it's difficult to identify a timeline given what
31:36
Speaker 1: we have now, Week one and beyond may be in
31:39
Speaker 1: question until more information is provided. A short term ir
31:42
Speaker 1: stint would not be out of the question in this case.
31:46
Speaker 1: And then Kyle says, for an athlete to return to
31:48
Speaker 1: safe return safely to the field of play, they should
31:51
Speaker 1: be pain free, full range of motion, full strength, and
31:54
Speaker 1: no evidence of a neurological injury. However, if after a
31:58
Speaker 1: time period of rest and reh have MBS shows ligament
32:02
Speaker 1: instability from his sprain or symptomatic discarnation, then he could
32:06
Speaker 1: be seeing a situation not unlike Micah Hydes from twenty
32:09
Speaker 1: twenty two. While this is obviously concerning, this is considered
32:12
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario given the current timeline we have
32:15
Speaker 1: and how the injury occurred. As Jason says, Kyle Trimble's
32:19
Speaker 1: a freaking gym. Yeah, he's absolutely phenomenal. I DMed him
32:21
Speaker 1: before I do the show. It's like, hey, man, like,
32:23
Speaker 1: I'm going to be fully just reading things from your
32:26
Speaker 1: site and from your post, so appreciate you. Is there
32:29
Speaker 1: anything you want me to talk about or plug And
32:32
Speaker 1: he was like no just mention the site and then
32:35
Speaker 1: I'm on with and then he's on with Joe Marino
32:36
Speaker 1: on Lockdown Bills weekly during the season. Yeah, he is
32:39
Speaker 1: a gem and offers a lot of insight. This ties
32:41
Speaker 1: into the first of kind of the Risers Followers conversation MBS.
32:48
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to I feel bad labeling him
32:51
Speaker 1: as a faller. Granted because the injury is playing a role,
32:54
Speaker 1: but even without the neck injury, just the inconsistency, you know,
33:00
Speaker 1: we saw it through camp, some of the drops. But
33:01
Speaker 1: then he came back and he made some nice catches,
33:03
Speaker 1: had a couple touchdowns that weren't getting publicized or talked
33:05
Speaker 1: about as much because they didn't fit the narrative. But
33:08
Speaker 1: you're just seeing that kind of inconsistency. And then I
33:10
Speaker 1: think you look at his play on the field. He
33:12
Speaker 1: has that drop in preseason Week one against Chicago, some
33:17
Speaker 1: inconsistencies in blocking, you know, stuff that he has been
33:20
Speaker 1: doing since he was in Green Bay in terms of,
33:23
Speaker 1: you know, functioning in the run game. He was better
33:25
Speaker 1: as a run blocker against Pittsburgh. I really thought he
33:29
Speaker 1: was a lock to make this roster at wide receiver five.
33:32
Speaker 1: And my whole thought was. I really kind of thought
33:34
Speaker 1: the top five were locked, especially the top four in
33:36
Speaker 1: no order. I thought it was Curtis, Samuel Khalier, Shakira,
33:39
Speaker 1: key On, Coleman, Matt Collins, and then MBS was your five,
33:42
Speaker 1: And the real conversation started at Wide Receiver six. Would
33:45
Speaker 1: it be for my money? I thought it was gonna
33:47
Speaker 1: be kJ Hamler? But would it be Hamdler, would it
33:49
Speaker 1: be Isabella, would it be Shavers, would it be Claypool?
33:51
Speaker 1: Would it be Justin Shorter? For the truthers out there,
33:54
Speaker 1: and we've kind of seen the depth guys fall off
33:58
Speaker 1: by the wayside a little bit. Then we have all
34:00
Speaker 1: the mondiness from the poor QB play we've seen in
34:03
Speaker 1: the preseason, which, again, like I said, muddies this conversation
34:07
Speaker 1: and Jace makes evaluation really murky and really tough to discern. MBS,
34:12
Speaker 1: I think is a really interesting one. I definitely think
34:14
Speaker 1: his stock is down and with the opportunity to again,
34:19
Speaker 1: like Kyle said, they're not rolling out an IR stint
34:21
Speaker 1: and not kind of putting that out of the question.
34:23
Speaker 1: So do you put him on the IR? Do you
34:25
Speaker 1: outright cut him? Like is he going to be able
34:28
Speaker 1: to return by week one, and even if he was
34:30
Speaker 1: completely healthy and no neck injury, I still think it's
34:35
Speaker 1: not a lot that he was going to make the
34:36
Speaker 1: roster just because of how great that he hasn't played,
34:38
Speaker 1: but also within that conversation, no one else has really
34:42
Speaker 1: played better than him. Like, if you want to tell me, okay,
34:44
Speaker 1: Tyrol Shavers, I'd take Tyrol Shavers over him, I'd be like, okay,
34:47
Speaker 1: but also not necessarily, Like you can make a case
34:50
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys, you could also make the
34:52
Speaker 1: case for MVS. Again, it's all muddy and murky. The
34:55
Speaker 1: injury just makes it that much more so. But yeah,
34:59
Speaker 1: there are some options there based off of that. It's
35:01
Speaker 1: a frustrating situation and it ties into one of So
35:05
Speaker 1: he's a faller for me, but it also ties into
35:07
Speaker 1: one of the risers that we are going to talk
35:10
Speaker 1: about later. Another injury at the wide receiver position, Curtis
35:13
Speaker 1: Samuel with his turf toe, a surprising injury to kind
35:16
Speaker 1: of come out of Monday's injury news. We are going
35:20
Speaker 1: to go this is really a good description, Kyle saying.
35:23
Speaker 1: Turf toe injury occurs when the great toe is sprained.
35:27
Speaker 1: This is the result of the toe getting hyper extended
35:29
Speaker 1: due to the foot bending too far forward. This happens
35:32
Speaker 1: when pushing off during sprinting, or if the foot is
35:35
Speaker 1: on the ground with the toe extended and another player
35:38
Speaker 1: falls on the foot. It typically becomes chronic unless proper
35:42
Speaker 1: rest and rehab is performed roughly four to six weeks,
35:46
Speaker 1: but during the middle of a football season it's hard
35:48
Speaker 1: to take enough time off to get fully healthy. Considering
35:51
Speaker 1: the team has three weeks until the first game. Samuel
35:54
Speaker 1: may avoid missing time, but it'll be close. Having sat
35:57
Speaker 1: out last week will have given him nearly a month
35:59
Speaker 1: to mostly However, when he does return, he may still
36:02
Speaker 1: deal with some lingering issues and play with a stiff
36:05
Speaker 1: sole shoe and taping the toe for support to avoid
36:09
Speaker 1: aggravating the area. Watch his participation levels closely and again.
36:14
Speaker 1: The issue why lingers so much as when you sprint,
36:16
Speaker 1: you push off the balls to your feet and that
36:18
Speaker 1: promotes toe extension. Add an already loose area in there,
36:22
Speaker 1: you have less leverage than you once did and it
36:23
Speaker 1: continues to aggravate the area. So some nice reference there
36:28
Speaker 1: from Kyle. He also notes that Samuel had a toe
36:31
Speaker 1: injury last year. It's unclear if it was turf toe,
36:34
Speaker 1: and then he breaks down some of the splits before
36:35
Speaker 1: and after again another wide receiver injury, further kind of
36:39
Speaker 1: muddying the plot a little bit for the Bills, but
36:46
Speaker 1: for the audio listeners. I took a drink there. But yeah,
36:49
Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about Curtis Samuel. My issue is
36:53
Speaker 1: with the lingering piece. I think it'll be good for
36:54
Speaker 1: week one. The question is what percentage if he's operating,
37:00
Speaker 1: he need eight percent. And then, as Kyle noted, you're
37:04
Speaker 1: not really getting a chance to properly heal and recover
37:07
Speaker 1: if you are playing on it. So if you're playing
37:08
Speaker 1: on it at eighty in week one, that means at
37:12
Speaker 1: best you're probably rocking at eighty for the entirety of
37:14
Speaker 1: the year because it's only going to get better, like
37:15
Speaker 1: he said, with rest and rehab roughly four to six weeks.
37:21
Speaker 1: So he's kind of going to fall into that timeline
37:24
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of you know, them sitting
37:26
Speaker 1: in this week against the Steelers and then how much
37:27
Speaker 1: time kind of leads up to that first game of
37:30
Speaker 1: the season against the Cardinals. But not ideal again for
37:33
Speaker 1: another position grouping that has some questions already another injury.
37:39
Speaker 1: H Baile inspector right cap that Muddy's the linebacker position
37:46
Speaker 1: even more. He's now week to week, which suggests he
37:48
Speaker 1: may have had a set back with his rehab, putting
37:50
Speaker 1: week one in doubt. Then we have DeMar Hamlet suffered
37:53
Speaker 1: a left hamstring last week, noted it with something minor,
37:57
Speaker 1: but he is now also week to week. Then you
38:00
Speaker 1: have Mike Edwards a right hamstring. He's set to return
38:03
Speaker 1: to individual drills this week after missing the last three
38:06
Speaker 1: weeks due to a hamstring strain. Cole Bishop Slaty a
38:11
Speaker 1: return to individual drills after suffering a left shoulder injury
38:14
Speaker 1: on July thirtieth. The belief is that he had a
38:17
Speaker 1: non displaced scalpular fracture. He'll be three weeks removed from
38:21
Speaker 1: the initial injury, which indicates that he is healing at
38:23
Speaker 1: a rate the training staff is happy with. He will
38:26
Speaker 1: need to get the conditioning back and make sure the
38:27
Speaker 1: bone is healed before initiating contact. Linebacker Nicholas Morrow set
38:32
Speaker 1: to return to practice following his injury on August second,
38:36
Speaker 1: missing just over two weeks of the injuries. He slowly
38:38
Speaker 1: works back. While his return isn't all that surprising. The
38:41
Speaker 1: use of core muscle the entire time suggests that he
38:44
Speaker 1: does have a tear in the area, which could require surgery.
38:47
Speaker 1: It is possible to play through this injury, though he
38:50
Speaker 1: will be lacking a lot of lateral mobility and explosion
38:52
Speaker 1: at this point in the game. That may be better
38:55
Speaker 1: than what the Bills have available. Casey two Hill out
38:58
Speaker 1: since August eighth with a groin designation and scheduled to
39:00
Speaker 1: come back after two weeks off, and then several others
39:05
Speaker 1: a lot of calf stuff, Austin Johnson with a calf injury,
39:08
Speaker 1: Javon Solomon with a calf injury. Trainers did not need
39:12
Speaker 1: to go out and assess Solomon, but he was later
39:15
Speaker 1: ruled out once he returned to the sidelines. Considering he
39:17
Speaker 1: will be limited in practice this week. It's one of
39:19
Speaker 1: the best possible outcomes for him. So there's more details
39:22
Speaker 1: and pieces in Kyle's article on banged up Bills or
39:26
Speaker 1: at banged Up Bills on Twitter or banged Up Bills
39:28
Speaker 1: dot Com, but I wanted to go through the ones
39:31
Speaker 1: that were relative to the risers and followers conversation that
39:36
Speaker 1: we are having tonight. Bills are electric okay, were saying
39:41
Speaker 1: duct tape, so our back seven is already in duct
39:43
Speaker 1: tape mode. It could be duct tape, could be falling apart,
39:46
Speaker 1: could be tape made from a duck. Bills are electric
39:49
Speaker 1: saying week to week means three weeks. I usually take
39:53
Speaker 1: week to week as like two to four, but yeah,
39:54
Speaker 1: three is kind of the safe ballpark. I take two.
39:57
Speaker 1: I take week to week meaning like a couple to several.
40:01
Speaker 1: So for me, it's usually two to three, sometimes pushing
40:03
Speaker 1: to four. I like this positivity from Charles saying getting
40:06
Speaker 1: all our injuries out of the way early, so we're
40:08
Speaker 1: good for the Super Bowl. Sophia saying Solomon was a
40:11
Speaker 1: full practice today, and Sophia also pointed out that the
40:13
Speaker 1: Bishop was a red shirt at practice today as pointing
40:17
Speaker 1: out sal coming in and asking your your opinion on
40:20
Speaker 1: Buffalo Joe. Does he make the roster or practice squad.
40:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going over him in a little bit.
40:24
Speaker 1: I will say he's trending up, and we'll get thee
40:26
Speaker 1: of that in a little bit. Bum bum bum bum
40:29
Speaker 1: bum wow. I love this comment from Pete or from
40:34
Speaker 1: Frank saying if he learns how to block a lot better,
40:37
Speaker 1: Davidson is a four to six forty version of Pete Metslars.
40:41
Speaker 1: Of course that's a reach. I like the connection there.
40:43
Speaker 1: I like that Roy is down on Jamar Hamlin or
40:47
Speaker 1: kJ Hamler should say I'm sorry saying I don't get
40:49
Speaker 1: the fascination with Hammler. He's done nothing in the NFL,
40:51
Speaker 1: He's had injuries. And again, at the end of the day,
40:54
Speaker 1: it's a dude with special team's ability, but who's fast,
40:56
Speaker 1: Like he is extremely fast, He's shifty, he's got decisive
40:59
Speaker 1: you know, sharp cuts once he has the ball in
41:01
Speaker 1: his hands. Dudes that are fast always get a look,
41:04
Speaker 1: you know, even if they haven't produced, even if their
41:05
Speaker 1: timeline and career trajectory hasn't worked out. Dudes that are
41:08
Speaker 1: fast and dudes that can run, they kind of always
41:13
Speaker 1: get an opportunity in the NFL. All right, So within
41:18
Speaker 1: that we read through a bunch of the injuries. Now
41:21
Speaker 1: I want to talk about too, just real quickly. I'm
41:23
Speaker 1: willing to read through some roster pieces in terms of practice,
41:26
Speaker 1: squad rules, and fifty three man IR designations, all that
41:29
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Start with some IR things. Once a
41:34
Speaker 1: player is placed on the IR list, they must miss
41:37
Speaker 1: at least four of the team's games. While on the IR,
41:40
Speaker 1: they are not counted on the team's active roster, but
41:42
Speaker 1: their compensation is still counted towards the salary cap. After
41:46
Speaker 1: four games, a player may be designated to return, and
41:49
Speaker 1: then I think this is where a lot of people
41:50
Speaker 1: get familiar. That opens a twenty one day window during
41:53
Speaker 1: which they can attend practices but are still not counted
41:56
Speaker 1: on the active roster. If they are not activated on
41:59
Speaker 1: the roster to the roster during the twenty one day window,
42:02
Speaker 1: they must remain on IR for the rest of the season.
42:05
Speaker 1: Each player may be designated for a return twice a season,
42:08
Speaker 1: and you have an unlimited you have an unlimited amount
42:12
Speaker 1: of IR spots. But a team has allowed just eight
42:15
Speaker 1: returns from IR during the regular season, if you appear
42:18
Speaker 1: in the postseason, you'll be allowed ten returns that year.
42:21
Speaker 1: At the final roster cut down, a team may designate
42:24
Speaker 1: up to two players already on their reserved or injured
42:27
Speaker 1: list to be available for return during the season, even
42:30
Speaker 1: if they do not eventually return to the roster. Players
42:33
Speaker 1: are designated in this way will automatically count against the
42:36
Speaker 1: limit of eight or ten IR returns. And then some
42:39
Speaker 1: quick practice squad rules sixteen players seventeen if one of
42:43
Speaker 1: them is an international player. And then there's specific qualifications
42:48
Speaker 1: for practice squad players who again can be signed by
42:51
Speaker 1: any other team and leave immediately at any time if
42:54
Speaker 1: it's for an active roster spot with that other team.
42:56
Speaker 1: You can't go practice squad to practice squad, and cass
43:00
Speaker 1: are players who do not have a season of NFL experience.
43:02
Speaker 1: So basically rookies, second year players who were on the
43:05
Speaker 1: active list for fewer than nine regular season games during
43:09
Speaker 1: their only season. Up to four players per team who
43:11
Speaker 1: have played no more than two seasons no game limitations,
43:15
Speaker 1: and then up to six players per team with no
43:18
Speaker 1: limitations as to their number of seasons played. Now that
43:22
Speaker 1: we got all that kind of red tape out of
43:26
Speaker 1: the way, again, I wanted to put that in there.
43:29
Speaker 1: So we went over some injury concerns with kind of
43:31
Speaker 1: how that's shaped the roster. In this roster projection and conversation,
43:34
Speaker 1: we went over fifty three man roster rules, we went
43:38
Speaker 1: over some ir designations, we went over some practice squad pieces.
43:42
Speaker 1: So wanted to get those out of the way and
43:45
Speaker 1: now let us get into the film portion. Of the
43:49
Speaker 1: show and again the part that ties in the risers
43:52
Speaker 1: and followers and all of them to take a quick
43:53
Speaker 1: drink again, and then we will get into the film.
44:00
Speaker 1: So just for those watching live, I'm getting like connection.
44:04
Speaker 1: Note it's poring here, but I'm getting connection like bar
44:07
Speaker 1: notices here on my screen. So if anybody wants to
44:10
Speaker 1: tell me the chat, if the stream is clear, if
44:12
Speaker 1: I'm sounding good, if everything looks good, or if I'm
44:15
Speaker 1: choppier wonky, I apologies. If I am a home once
44:17
Speaker 1: the weather clears, things will get better. But if I'm
44:20
Speaker 1: coming out bad, if anybody wants to let me know
44:22
Speaker 1: in the chat, that would be most appreciated. All right,
44:25
Speaker 1: so let's get into again Rush Projection, Risers Followers conversation.
44:30
Speaker 1: I wanted to tie it in with the film aspect
44:33
Speaker 1: because I thought that made a lot of sense to
44:38
Speaker 1: kind of show you folks where the conversation starts with
44:43
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Thank you, Sophia, I appreciate you.
44:45
Speaker 1: She's saying that, I'm clear. That's very helpful. All right.
44:48
Speaker 1: Let me share my screen, sharing my screen, Let me
44:54
Speaker 1: share my screen. I always forget that I have to
44:58
Speaker 1: click at the stage and there we go. Okay, so
45:02
Speaker 1: the first play we're going to look at is related
45:04
Speaker 1: to mister Javon Solomon over here off the right edge
45:08
Speaker 1: and mister Joe Andresen Buffalo Joe at the linebacker spot. Oh,
45:12
Speaker 1: thank you, Carl, Carl saying I sound fine. Appreciate you, Carl.
45:16
Speaker 1: So just to kind of get into it a little bit,
45:18
Speaker 1: like we talked about, you know, mister Joe Andreeson, what
45:23
Speaker 1: does his path to the field look like, the whole
45:25
Speaker 1: conversation around it. I think what's interesting with andreason is
45:28
Speaker 1: at the very least he earned himself kind of an
45:30
Speaker 1: opportunity to get more sample sized, more snaps. And again,
45:34
Speaker 1: like I said, he and we're gonna see on this
45:36
Speaker 1: play here, he had legit plays on Saturday against the Steelers.
45:38
Speaker 1: He was shooting gaps. He was playing with physicality and juice,
45:42
Speaker 1: getting in on linemen, knocking them backwards, the ability to
45:45
Speaker 1: extend and shed, keep himself free, a couple of really
45:48
Speaker 1: good plays out in space against running backs and against
45:51
Speaker 1: justin fields. I think he helped himself tremendously. And even
45:54
Speaker 1: when he made mistakes, they were aggressive mistakes. He was
45:57
Speaker 1: still kind of shooting, cutting off the front side. You know,
45:59
Speaker 1: if he missed a tackle. He had a couple of
46:01
Speaker 1: miss tackles or broken tackles, which you know you want
46:04
Speaker 1: to see him clean that up. But an athletic, physical
46:08
Speaker 1: quick performance from him. I thought he processed well. He
46:11
Speaker 1: was quick on the snap, his eyes and his brain
46:15
Speaker 1: kind of led him to the right spots. And he
46:17
Speaker 1: also had a couple of good reps in coverage, including
46:18
Speaker 1: one on a Tampa two coverage I believe where he
46:21
Speaker 1: carried Pat Fryer move. They had trips to the top
46:24
Speaker 1: side friar Mouth was the three. He carried him vertical,
46:27
Speaker 1: which was really nice to see. And I think he
46:29
Speaker 1: also took advantage of mistakes made by the Steelers offensive line.
46:33
Speaker 1: I want to see him get more sample sized to
46:35
Speaker 1: decide how legit he is or not. The Bills traditionally
46:39
Speaker 1: through over the years, I went through and looked at
46:41
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of the roster stuff. Traditionally they keep
46:43
Speaker 1: six linebackers usually, but again, so much of that was
46:48
Speaker 1: you know, Tyler, Medikevitch and special teams value. I think
46:52
Speaker 1: Andresen offers special teams value, and it's not just because
46:54
Speaker 1: he rocks the forty four like Tyler Medakevitch, I think,
46:57
Speaker 1: with his speed and athleticism and juice, makes a lot
47:00
Speaker 1: of sense as a kick coverage type of guy or
47:02
Speaker 1: a punt coverage type of guy. So we'll kind of
47:04
Speaker 1: see what happens with that. And actually, while we're at it,
47:09
Speaker 1: let me take a look at Bill's special teams snaps
47:14
Speaker 1: four so andreason did not. He had three special team
47:18
Speaker 1: snaps against the Steelers, and he had bump bum bum
47:31
Speaker 1: none week one. That can't be right, No, I lied,
47:33
Speaker 1: And he had thirteen special team snaps week one. AGA's
47:36
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. So I'm not going to say he's
47:39
Speaker 1: a complete lock. I am fairly confident he makes he
47:43
Speaker 1: makes the fifty three and all of it. Two again,
47:46
Speaker 1: tying in with like we talked about those injuries, right,
47:50
Speaker 1: Nicholas Morrow. Morrow is still I know everybody wants Dorian
47:54
Speaker 1: Williams to be a thing, and there's people that wanted
47:56
Speaker 1: Andrewson to be a thing as well. If I have
47:59
Speaker 1: to put in a third linebacker right now, where I
48:01
Speaker 1: have to put in somebody from Matt Milano, I would
48:03
Speaker 1: still probably put in Nicholas Morrow, even though I know
48:06
Speaker 1: he's not the sexiest I think he just gives you
48:07
Speaker 1: a high enough floor and un known quantity given his
48:10
Speaker 1: experience in veteran status and the games that he's seeing,
48:13
Speaker 1: the defenses that he's played in, and what his skill
48:15
Speaker 1: set is. But you know, I don't know how that
48:19
Speaker 1: core muscle and groin injury is going to turn out
48:21
Speaker 1: for him, as we read from Kyle a little while ago,
48:23
Speaker 1: so Morrow kind of gums up the works and muddies
48:26
Speaker 1: that conversation even further. Dion Jones has been alright, but
48:30
Speaker 1: also man Baal inspector, I don't think he's ever really
48:34
Speaker 1: been anything to write home about. It gives you some
48:36
Speaker 1: depth and some special teams work, but we haven't really
48:38
Speaker 1: seen much of him. He's also banged up the Fohio
48:42
Speaker 1: fifth round pick special teams value. I think he probably
48:45
Speaker 1: makes the roster from the cost effective standpoint, the athleticism
48:48
Speaker 1: of the special teams value. So much of the conversation
48:52
Speaker 1: is muddy. I mean, and just from a lock perspective,
48:55
Speaker 1: Bernard's a lock, and Dorrian Williams is a lock, and
48:58
Speaker 1: then I think it looking at the rest of it,
48:59
Speaker 1: I think gets Uo and not in this order, but
49:02
Speaker 1: Ulafio Andresen Morrow and then you're looking at spector Dion Jones.
49:07
Speaker 1: I'd probably think they lean spector if he's healthy, but
49:11
Speaker 1: we'll kind of see what happens in that regard. But
49:17
Speaker 1: Charles saying they had Joe meaning oh yeah, Joe Andresen.
49:21
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I thought his first name was
49:22
Speaker 1: something other than Joe. They had Andreasen playing the mic,
49:25
Speaker 1: so he'd be the backup to Bernard at best question
49:28
Speaker 1: mark good call. So he was playing the mic. Dorian
49:31
Speaker 1: was the will based on what they did with Bernard
49:34
Speaker 1: and some of the conversation on because they want guys
49:37
Speaker 1: to know both, but then they don't want to overload
49:39
Speaker 1: guys at the same time. I think that's a fair
49:41
Speaker 1: point to note that he had a lot of success
49:43
Speaker 1: in this game as the mic, and even though Babbage
49:45
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago talked about like they don't have
49:49
Speaker 1: a mic and will and it's just like linebacker and
49:51
Speaker 1: not talking about strong side versus week and all all
49:54
Speaker 1: that conversation. Piece, there are guys who you know with
49:56
Speaker 1: Bernard and Milano in terms of who leans more towards
50:00
Speaker 1: what kind of position, but that they also each have
50:02
Speaker 1: skill sets that allow them to play both Also, Milano
50:05
Speaker 1: has a ton of experience in this defense and with
50:07
Speaker 1: the team. Bernard less so but tremendously smart. Dude has
50:10
Speaker 1: that advantage of playing in the in David Randa's system
50:13
Speaker 1: at Baylor, which prepared him well for the NFL, but
50:15
Speaker 1: especially for life with the Buffalo Bills and Sean McDermott defense. Yeah,
50:21
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking at Andreas and I think
50:23
Speaker 1: it might be a lot to kind of say he's
50:25
Speaker 1: going to start this year. If we're looking at day
50:28
Speaker 1: one right now, I feel like the day one starters
50:29
Speaker 1: are Dorian Williams and Terrell Bernard, and then it's a
50:33
Speaker 1: matter of how healthy is Moreau, What do you've got
50:36
Speaker 1: from Andreas And it's a conversation I think from linebacker
50:39
Speaker 1: three through linebacker five or six. But I think if
50:42
Speaker 1: we're kind of looking at that spot right now, yeah,
50:44
Speaker 1: I think it's Dorry Williams and Terrell Bernard. But regardless
50:47
Speaker 1: of that, Andreason played great against the Steelers. I'm very
50:49
Speaker 1: excited to see what he does against the Panthers on Saturday,
50:52
Speaker 1: when he'll probably get a lot more burn. Let's dive
50:55
Speaker 1: into this first play, so I got Andreason highlighted here
51:01
Speaker 1: in the middle, and I've also got Javon Solomon highlighted
51:03
Speaker 1: on the right. We're going to talk about Solomon in
51:06
Speaker 1: a minute. He's another riser for me. Actual I'll talk
51:08
Speaker 1: about Solomon real quick now. He's another riser with me
51:10
Speaker 1: along with andreason. We're gonna show a pass rush clip
51:13
Speaker 1: from him this week that tied into an adjustment from
51:16
Speaker 1: last week and who he was in college. I also
51:19
Speaker 1: think the rise of Javon Solomon also kind of coalesces
51:23
Speaker 1: into Duan Smoot being meh. I was really high on
51:27
Speaker 1: Smoot the signing coming into camp, and he's just has
51:30
Speaker 1: been kind of not much in the preseason. One of
51:34
Speaker 1: his best aspects is what he does on two man
51:36
Speaker 1: games as a spiker, and his spikes have been clunky,
51:40
Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily all on him, but him in defensive
51:43
Speaker 1: tackles kind of colliding into one another. We've seen him
51:45
Speaker 1: lose edge contain multiple times against the run, including a
51:48
Speaker 1: couple of really ugly ones against Chicago that was just
51:50
Speaker 1: basic crack toss or outside zone, which is unfortunate. So
51:56
Speaker 1: I think part of that riser conversation, I think Alomon
52:00
Speaker 1: is a riser regardless, but My initial thought was I
52:03
Speaker 1: had him as Edge five making this team. I think
52:05
Speaker 1: with how well he's played as a pass rusher and
52:07
Speaker 1: against the run in the athleticism he brings that in
52:11
Speaker 1: conjunction with Smoot not playing great, I think Solomon may
52:15
Speaker 1: be playing himself more into the Edge four conversation. So
52:18
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why he's a riser for
52:19
Speaker 1: me in this episode as well. Let's go to it.
52:24
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tape. I don't know I've said
52:25
Speaker 1: that two or three times, but now let's go to
52:26
Speaker 1: it for legit. Okay, So right on the snap and
52:29
Speaker 1: we'll start with andreason. If you watch, as soon as
52:31
Speaker 1: this snap hits and clicks boom, he's already firing his
52:35
Speaker 1: eyes right on Wilson, right onto the running back track,
52:38
Speaker 1: sees what's happening in front of him, the zone run.
52:40
Speaker 1: Everybody step into their right in unison. But watch him
52:44
Speaker 1: read it, shoot the gap, and then it's the big piece.
52:47
Speaker 1: This lineman right here. This is Zach Frazier Center out
52:49
Speaker 1: of the University of West Virginia. I really liked him
52:52
Speaker 1: as a prospect. I would have gladly taken him as
52:56
Speaker 1: a Buffalo bill at the end of the first round
52:58
Speaker 1: or in the early second people mover physical, not the
53:01
Speaker 1: most athletic dude, but good hands, plays with leverage, and
53:04
Speaker 1: again is a physical, strong, imposing type of center. Watch
53:09
Speaker 1: Andreasen just run through Fraser's shoulder, and again Fraser is
53:13
Speaker 1: trying to let's talk about it, so because it's his
53:16
Speaker 1: own block. Got the double team here. So Fraser is
53:18
Speaker 1: trying to feed block this defensive tackle to his left guard.
53:22
Speaker 1: He's leaning into him with this shoulder and hopes that
53:25
Speaker 1: he can kind of stand this defensive tackle up or
53:28
Speaker 1: stonewall him so that way his left guard can cross face,
53:32
Speaker 1: turn and basically seal that man inside because they're trying
53:35
Speaker 1: to create alleys and lanes over here on this side
53:38
Speaker 1: right so may race all my beautiful drawings. So he
53:42
Speaker 1: is stepping and helping a little bit here, which is
53:45
Speaker 1: part of the reason why as we go forward, he
53:47
Speaker 1: doesn't get his full body on Andres and he's only
53:49
Speaker 1: really getting a shoulder and an arm. But watch andreason
53:52
Speaker 1: just get low. Watch him drop his inside arm and bang,
53:59
Speaker 1: just power and rips right through. Frasier continues on down
54:03
Speaker 1: and makes the tackle on Cordero Patterson. We're gonna play
54:05
Speaker 1: in real time a couple times so you folks can
54:07
Speaker 1: see it. Bang bang, that's a really good physical play.
54:10
Speaker 1: He's shooting the gap, he's making the tackle. That's a
54:15
Speaker 1: huge piece too, right, he makes the tackle. Let me
54:18
Speaker 1: go back again. Here we go. I'm just gonna keep
54:20
Speaker 1: clicking it, rolling it for you guys. Clicks boom. I
54:24
Speaker 1: think the real time lets you see the quickness and
54:27
Speaker 1: the physicality. Right, the trigger gets low, plays through the
54:31
Speaker 1: shoulder and arm of the center and makes the tackle. Now,
54:33
Speaker 1: the other component of this play is mister Javon Solomon, who,
54:36
Speaker 1: like I talked about pass rushing upside tons of production.
54:41
Speaker 1: Great comment here from Charles saying click and close absolutely,
54:44
Speaker 1: those are something some of my favorite phrases, like quick trigger,
54:46
Speaker 1: clicking close, shooting gaps, all that kind of stuff. My
54:48
Speaker 1: favorite one is somebody who has that quick trigger closes
54:52
Speaker 1: and then lights somebody up because then it's click closed, detonate.
54:55
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things to say in the world.
54:58
Speaker 1: And yes, Claude says that Fraziers no slouch. He is
55:01
Speaker 1: not in any way, shape or form. As Nicky says here,
55:04
Speaker 1: smoot has looked more bad than good and again that's
55:07
Speaker 1: tying into the Javon Solomon conversation. Who I saw him
55:10
Speaker 1: with a lot of pass rush upside. I didn't know
55:12
Speaker 1: what he'd be as a guy against the run in
55:14
Speaker 1: terms of what he would be as in every down
55:16
Speaker 1: players a rookie, because although he does have fine arm
55:19
Speaker 1: length and hand size for his overall size and build,
55:23
Speaker 1: he still is under six to one and he's under
55:25
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds. He's like six foot and
55:28
Speaker 1: I forget the exact measures, but he's he's slightly under
55:30
Speaker 1: six to one and he's two hundred and forty six pounds.
55:32
Speaker 1: So that's what he was listed at coming out of Troy.
55:34
Speaker 1: But this is a really good run defense rap against
55:38
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Who if you folks
55:42
Speaker 1: know about Darnell Washington tight end last year coming out
55:46
Speaker 1: of Georgia, is a mauler in the run game, and
55:49
Speaker 1: part of his appeal right away is just what he
55:52
Speaker 1: offered as a run blocker. Watch Javon Solomon and again
55:56
Speaker 1: pairing it with that Smooth conversation, smooth has not been good,
55:59
Speaker 1: set in the edge has been good against the run.
56:01
Speaker 1: Watch Javon Solomon come through. Bang, he bangs with Darnell Washington.
56:06
Speaker 1: But watch this is the key. Watch Solomon's outside arm.
56:09
Speaker 1: This is really technical and really pretty because if you
56:12
Speaker 1: watch it just in normal speed, real time, you see
56:15
Speaker 1: the physicality. Right, you see him set that edge. It's
56:18
Speaker 1: part of the reason why they go back, like I
56:22
Speaker 1: hate when the eclips are too close. Okay, if you're
56:25
Speaker 1: watching it in real time, right, it just looks like, oh,
56:28
Speaker 1: he did a really good job set in the edge.
56:29
Speaker 1: Part of the reason Andreasen is able to make this
56:32
Speaker 1: tackle is because Solomon sets that edge and forces Patterson
56:35
Speaker 1: to go inside of Darnell Washington, which allows Andresen to
56:39
Speaker 1: make that tackle. If Solomon doesn't set this edge, Patterson
56:43
Speaker 1: can get outside of him, and then that makes it
56:46
Speaker 1: not impossible, but it makes a harder tackle for Andreasen,
56:49
Speaker 1: or it makes it a tackle that doesn't happen. But
56:51
Speaker 1: when you're again you're watching it in real time, you're
56:53
Speaker 1: just seeing him bang into Washington. Right here comes Javon
56:56
Speaker 1: Salmon off the snap, gets under Washington, stands in up
57:00
Speaker 1: the hand usage right here, watch him chop down that
57:04
Speaker 1: outside hand of Darnell Washington. So that way he can
57:08
Speaker 1: he gets the leverage control. Washington only has one hand
57:11
Speaker 1: on him, which is his inside hand, which is okay,
57:13
Speaker 1: ca Solomon set in the edge. You're talking about gap
57:15
Speaker 1: responsibility here, this is his gap. That is what he's
57:19
Speaker 1: responsible for if we're looking at it from again a
57:21
Speaker 1: pre snap alignment in terms of who's doing what and
57:24
Speaker 1: who's responsible for what. That is what his job is.
57:27
Speaker 1: So he's not letting this run get outside him. And
57:29
Speaker 1: it's just the hand usage in conjunction with the physicality.
57:32
Speaker 1: Come out of your stance, get low, jack him up,
57:36
Speaker 1: and right here here comes that chop bang. See if
57:39
Speaker 1: just detach that arm. Really good hand usage, hand usage
57:43
Speaker 1: that he normally uses as a pass rusher. Here he
57:46
Speaker 1: is using it as a run defender against a really
57:49
Speaker 1: good run blocking tight end. Who if I'm correct here,
57:54
Speaker 1: let me pull up Darnell Washington's measurables. Yeah, Darnell Washington
57:58
Speaker 1: is listed at two hundred and sixty four pound. He's
58:00
Speaker 1: six 't seven, two sixty four I'm sorry, six foot
58:02
Speaker 1: six six, six foot six five and two hundred and
58:08
Speaker 1: sixty four pounds, so he has him by six inches
58:11
Speaker 1: and almost twenty pounds. That's a really good run set
58:16
Speaker 1: or an edge set against a run from Javon Solomon. Again,
58:19
Speaker 1: it's two dudes making a play together. Solomon off the
58:22
Speaker 1: edge set in the edge and forcing this run to
58:24
Speaker 1: stay inside the tight end, and Andreasen clicking and closing
58:28
Speaker 1: and making a really good tackle. That's two really good
58:30
Speaker 1: plays from two really good rookies right there. And you
58:32
Speaker 1: can see how pumped Solomon is. He doesn't make this tackle,
58:35
Speaker 1: but he knows it. Watch Solomon get up. He's pumped.
58:37
Speaker 1: He's feeling that. And Williams recognized it. Who is that?
58:42
Speaker 1: Austin Johnson recognized it? Like you can always tell how
58:44
Speaker 1: good a play is from a dude by how many
58:47
Speaker 1: like helmet taps or like DAPs they get after the play.
58:49
Speaker 1: Andreason got a ton in this game. Solomon gets one
58:52
Speaker 1: here again. That's that's just great defense. Play it in
58:56
Speaker 1: slow mooll one more time, see andresen read it, click
59:01
Speaker 1: close play through the shoulder. Oh and this is a
59:04
Speaker 1: good freeze frame too. Again darnaut Washington's trying to get
59:07
Speaker 1: into him here. Here's that outside arm of Solomon gat
59:10
Speaker 1: I kind of muddied it there here. It is. It's
59:11
Speaker 1: nice you can see because he's all, he's got long
59:13
Speaker 1: white sleeves and white gloves. Watch him just chop down
59:17
Speaker 1: that arm, clear that outside and force this run back
59:22
Speaker 1: in and set that edge. Nice rep. Nice rep from Solomon,
59:25
Speaker 1: Nice rep from mister Joe Andresen. Another one here highlighting
59:30
Speaker 1: Joe Andreeson, but I also wanted to highlight Jehaun Williams
59:34
Speaker 1: and Daiquon Hardy on this one defensive tackle just to
59:37
Speaker 1: speak on it quick has been a weird one. Like
59:40
Speaker 1: I'd like some of the stuff Dwayne Carter has done,
59:43
Speaker 1: but I also haven't been impressed. Deshaun Williams has had
59:46
Speaker 1: some really nice reps and he's also had some reps
59:48
Speaker 1: so he's gotten like blown off the ball. The depth
59:51
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle spots after at Oliver and Daikwon Jones,
59:56
Speaker 1: and now we add in a calf injury to Austin
59:58
Speaker 1: Johnson into the mix, which mu these things Like I'm
1:00:01
Speaker 1: kind of actually weirdly concerned about the interior defensive line
1:00:04
Speaker 1: depth overall, just with how everybody's been playing. But you
1:00:08
Speaker 1: had a great stop by Deshaun Williams on third down
1:00:12
Speaker 1: that set up the nice fourth down stop from Joe
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Andreeson on Justin Fields later in the game. So that
1:00:16
Speaker 1: was a really good play from Williams. And this is
1:00:18
Speaker 1: a good one here too. I'm just gonna so I
1:00:21
Speaker 1: have these three highlighteds. So you've got Williams, You've got Hardy,
1:00:24
Speaker 1: you got Andreson. Let's watch Williams up front first at
1:00:27
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Quick little club swim over Williams is important
1:00:35
Speaker 1: because this is the route, this outside route, this dig
1:00:42
Speaker 1: is the Oh it's pretty accurate from me. This is
1:00:45
Speaker 1: what Fields is trying to hit. If there's no pressure
1:00:48
Speaker 1: from Williams, Deshaun Williams, granted Fields say say this doesn't happen,
1:00:54
Speaker 1: Say Williams is gone. So a Field is sitting pretty
1:00:57
Speaker 1: in this pocket. He does have to layer this either
1:01:01
Speaker 1: perfectly between Dorian Williams and Joe Andreesen, or he's got
1:01:07
Speaker 1: to throw it and layer it over them and kind
1:01:09
Speaker 1: of drop it in. So it's not the guaranteed throw.
1:01:11
Speaker 1: It's not the easiest throw in the world. But Fields
1:01:14
Speaker 1: is trying to hit that dig. He's hoping for kind
1:01:18
Speaker 1: of this this inside route to clear out the safey
1:01:20
Speaker 1: a little bit, which it does, and then he can
1:01:22
Speaker 1: kind of hit this route coming into this spot right here,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: but he is unable to hit that. And as you
1:01:27
Speaker 1: can see here there's it's not gonna be the easiest
1:01:29
Speaker 1: throw in the world because he has to layer it
1:01:31
Speaker 1: or fire it in there. But he's got a decent
1:01:32
Speaker 1: amount of space. But Deshaun Williams, mister ninety three up front,
1:01:38
Speaker 1: wins club get through, forces Williams off the spot. Now,
1:01:43
Speaker 1: good job from Williams. Let's watch mister Daiquon Hardy outside
1:01:46
Speaker 1: corner here at the bottom. Hardy gets sucked in by
1:01:49
Speaker 1: the play action he's in. Immediately after he gets sucked in,
1:01:55
Speaker 1: what does he do? He turns, He robots, he gets
1:01:58
Speaker 1: his eyes on field. Okay, he looks back and he
1:02:00
Speaker 1: sees kind of what is developing with the route distribution.
1:02:03
Speaker 1: Now what you're supposed to have out here based on
1:02:06
Speaker 1: the coverage. Look, you can kind of see it. So
1:02:09
Speaker 1: Elom is going with his man, but we've got the
1:02:11
Speaker 1: single high safety. Hardy is responsible for this deep third.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: So this is a good job from Daikwon. Hardy getting
1:02:18
Speaker 1: sucked in initially, but then getting back to his deep
1:02:21
Speaker 1: third responsibility to influence this throat. He comes screaming back,
1:02:27
Speaker 1: takes his deep third against the man on the deep
1:02:29
Speaker 1: over again. He doesn't know what's what's happening behind him.
1:02:32
Speaker 1: For all he knows Field is set in his feet
1:02:34
Speaker 1: and is trying to fire this over here. Do something
1:02:36
Speaker 1: now again if you want to play Devil's advocate, Hardy
1:02:39
Speaker 1: is screaming up there, and technically, like the dig then
1:02:43
Speaker 1: keeps going and can potentially become available. But I just
1:02:46
Speaker 1: think for being a rookie and being a guy who
1:02:48
Speaker 1: wasn't really slotted to play outside, that's a nice recovery
1:02:54
Speaker 1: from Daikwon Hardy there. Oh and I see sorry, I
1:02:57
Speaker 1: see the car. I think I answered it. Chigaros saying
1:03:00
Speaker 1: what coverage this? So this is a cover three coverage
1:03:03
Speaker 1: And if you want to go so pre snap, you're
1:03:07
Speaker 1: seeing Kareem Jackson. So Kareem Jackson is going to drop
1:03:10
Speaker 1: into the post as the deep safety. This is Kenda Williamson,
1:03:13
Speaker 1: who's a safety. He is going to have flat responsibility.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: So if you watch again, forget that they get sucked
1:03:19
Speaker 1: in versus the run, because that kind of muddy is
1:03:21
Speaker 1: it for you a little bit? I can understand that.
1:03:23
Speaker 1: But based on what you have and you look at this,
1:03:26
Speaker 1: this is Kenda Williamson here in the flat, and then
1:03:29
Speaker 1: you have a hook player. A hook player. There's nobody
1:03:32
Speaker 1: out here in the flat for JaMarcus Ingram, but if
1:03:35
Speaker 1: there was, he would be out here in the flat.
1:03:37
Speaker 1: And then Daikwon Hardy again has deep third. So if
1:03:40
Speaker 1: you're kind of looking at it from everybody, Elam has
1:03:43
Speaker 1: a deep third, Kareem Jackson is the post safety, and
1:03:46
Speaker 1: then Daikwon Hardy has a deep third, and then you
1:03:49
Speaker 1: got flat hook and flat again. So that's kind of
1:03:53
Speaker 1: what it would be. So you're looking at cover three,
1:03:57
Speaker 1: So what's nice Again, it's not ideal that he got
1:04:00
Speaker 1: kind of like misled, but it happens. Right you're playing
1:04:02
Speaker 1: the run, you get sucked in. What are you gonna
1:04:04
Speaker 1: do about it? Once you make a mistake. Hardy gets
1:04:06
Speaker 1: sucked in turns and tries to get back, gets screaming
1:04:10
Speaker 1: back to his deep third. And also, if you notice
1:04:12
Speaker 1: two turns a little bit, kind of tries to get
1:04:14
Speaker 1: his head around seeing what's gonna happen again, if you
1:04:16
Speaker 1: really want to nitpick it, you can say he kind
1:04:18
Speaker 1: of went with that deep overrom the clear, which technically
1:04:22
Speaker 1: allows the dig to come open behind him. But the
1:04:24
Speaker 1: fact that he recognized it and got back to his responsibility.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: I thought was a decent enough recover. Now, the last
1:04:29
Speaker 1: piece of this mister Joe Andreesen, pretty cut and dry
1:04:32
Speaker 1: and simple. He just tracks down justin Fields in space
1:04:35
Speaker 1: watch Andreas and game depth. He sees Fields come out. Now.
1:04:38
Speaker 1: I know Fields on this play stumbles a little bit,
1:04:42
Speaker 1: but that's a really solid play from Joe Andreesen. I know,
1:04:45
Speaker 1: everybody again, I'm gonna let this play run a little
1:04:47
Speaker 1: bit so we can see it from the other angle
1:04:48
Speaker 1: and we can just watch again. Here's mister Joe Andreesen.
1:04:52
Speaker 1: I know Fields gets a lot of flak for what
1:04:55
Speaker 1: he is as a thrower of the football, as a quarterback,
1:04:58
Speaker 1: but as a runner, like dude is electric, Like he
1:05:01
Speaker 1: has so much juice as a runner. He has a
1:05:03
Speaker 1: legitimate problem. And I know he stumbles on this play,
1:05:06
Speaker 1: but this is not easy to track him down in
1:05:08
Speaker 1: space and watch Andreasen just close. What's nice, too, is
1:05:14
Speaker 1: how he comes out of it. Watch him slow play
1:05:17
Speaker 1: it because he doesn't want to completely bail on his
1:05:19
Speaker 1: coverage responsibility. Watch him kind of just shuffle. Okay, like
1:05:25
Speaker 1: I'm not committing. I'm not committing. Okay, I'm committing and
1:05:28
Speaker 1: you can see it more in real time. Again, watch
1:05:31
Speaker 1: andreason I'm coming, I'm coming, all right, here I go,
1:05:36
Speaker 1: and then he closes it. So what's a responsible play
1:05:39
Speaker 1: and an athletic play kind of wrapped into one again
1:05:42
Speaker 1: against a very dynamic and electric runner in mister Justin Fields.
1:05:48
Speaker 1: And then also again I wanted to show him this angle.
1:05:50
Speaker 1: We'll watch what Deshaun Williams does. Who again I wanted
1:05:53
Speaker 1: to highlight on this plane. He might end up playing
1:05:55
Speaker 1: a role if Austin Johnson's calf injury isn't great, depending
1:05:59
Speaker 1: on how that developed. Caf injuries and soft muscle injuries
1:06:01
Speaker 1: can be weird. And then Carter isn't playing great, it
1:06:05
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting to see what he could be.
1:06:07
Speaker 1: But watch this from Carter. He steps initially, but then
1:06:10
Speaker 1: reads the play, clubs his man past him, then gets
1:06:15
Speaker 1: the arm over on the inside to get rid of
1:06:17
Speaker 1: that hand for support, gets held, pushes through the hold,
1:06:22
Speaker 1: and then just gets chucked out of the way by
1:06:24
Speaker 1: the tight end. Good job by the tight end. But
1:06:25
Speaker 1: again he forces Fields off his spot, which is what
1:06:28
Speaker 1: forces him to evade in the first place. So nice
1:06:31
Speaker 1: play by several players there for the Bills, defense. Here's
1:06:34
Speaker 1: another one for mister Javon Solomon. Let me go back.
1:06:40
Speaker 1: Charles says, thanks, And I know it's zone. But if
1:06:42
Speaker 1: the offense players stay in the block, why the defenders
1:06:45
Speaker 1: guard empty grass versus the rushing QB. So you still
1:06:48
Speaker 1: don't if we go to the sideline angle, So what
1:06:53
Speaker 1: you're going here and what you're saying here, So this
1:06:55
Speaker 1: is so you're saying, like, why do they guard empty
1:06:57
Speaker 1: grass versus the rushing QB. So it's still it's a
1:07:00
Speaker 1: spot drop, like they're still got to get to their spot.
1:07:03
Speaker 1: You don't know who's coming in behind. You say, Fields
1:07:06
Speaker 1: runs right here, right, So say he takes off. If
1:07:11
Speaker 1: Ingram and Andreasen just immediately buzzed down or are like, okay, cool,
1:07:16
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go take out Justin Field. If they
1:07:18
Speaker 1: both just sell out for him here, this becomes open.
1:07:23
Speaker 1: This becomes an easier throw for fields. If you watch
1:07:26
Speaker 1: what Ingrim. So this is part of the reason why
1:07:27
Speaker 1: Andreasen slow plays it. But also watch JaMarcus, Oh, watch
1:07:31
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram right here, like he's still sitting there. That's
1:07:36
Speaker 1: kind of what's influencing Justin Fields to not make this
1:07:39
Speaker 1: throw because he has to get it over Ingram and
1:07:42
Speaker 1: then get it. So if he if there's no Ingram there,
1:07:45
Speaker 1: let me go back to it. If there's no Ingram there,
1:07:49
Speaker 1: there's a chance he can just bullet it to try
1:07:52
Speaker 1: and beat kyer Elam. But because Ingram's there, he's got
1:07:55
Speaker 1: to layer it over Ingram, which gives kyr Elam because
1:07:59
Speaker 1: of how close Kyrie is in coverage, this gives Kyrielain
1:08:02
Speaker 1: the opportunity to make a play on the ball or
1:08:03
Speaker 1: undercut it. And if you watch it from let's watch
1:08:06
Speaker 1: it from that fun end zone angle, you can see
1:08:09
Speaker 1: it too. Here he goes, he's scrambling, he's scrambling boom.
1:08:12
Speaker 1: So that's a good representation of it. Right if if
1:08:16
Speaker 1: instead of covering his spot, like I know, he's guarding
1:08:18
Speaker 1: technically empty grass because there's no one in front of him,
1:08:21
Speaker 1: but there still is that threat behind him. If JaMarcus
1:08:24
Speaker 1: Ingram isn't here, there's a chance Field can just fire
1:08:27
Speaker 1: this ball right. I know I didn't draw straight line,
1:08:29
Speaker 1: but he can just fire this ball right to the
1:08:32
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But because Ingram's there, he's in the passing window.
1:08:36
Speaker 1: And if Field wants to throw this ball, he either
1:08:38
Speaker 1: has to get it way around him or he's got
1:08:41
Speaker 1: to go over him and kind of arc it, which
1:08:43
Speaker 1: gives elim a chance to make a play on the ball.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: Plus that's a heart throw in general, and try and
1:08:47
Speaker 1: layer that ball over somebody. You see how it kind
1:08:50
Speaker 1: of all plays out, even this guy too, right, Like
1:08:52
Speaker 1: this route ends up coming open Ingram Deters all that.
1:08:55
Speaker 1: If everybody just sells out against the QB, then those
1:08:59
Speaker 1: zone are vacated in fields as a chance to make
1:09:01
Speaker 1: that throw. Let's go to that X play, all right? Cool?
1:09:06
Speaker 1: So Jamon Solomon, this is what I was really excited
1:09:08
Speaker 1: to see in game, and I notated on Twitter. I
1:09:13
Speaker 1: talked about this again on Twitter last week, but also
1:09:16
Speaker 1: when I did the breakdown of Javon Solomon at Troy
1:09:19
Speaker 1: and kind of who he was as a player, and
1:09:21
Speaker 1: we saw it a lot last week against Chicago. He
1:09:23
Speaker 1: loves that move. So if from this vantage point, so
1:09:26
Speaker 1: he's on the right side, but from our vantage point
1:09:28
Speaker 1: he's on the left. Whatever side he is, he loves
1:09:31
Speaker 1: flashing that inside hand, trying to get the tackle to
1:09:36
Speaker 1: throw his hands in response to him declaring his and
1:09:39
Speaker 1: then him dipping underneath those hands, bending ripping through and
1:09:43
Speaker 1: then flattening to the quarterback. And we saw last week
1:09:46
Speaker 1: Darnell Right and the bare second string tackle with their
1:09:49
Speaker 1: NFL size, length and strength were able to just keep
1:09:53
Speaker 1: him off kilter a little bit and not let him
1:09:55
Speaker 1: flatten clean to the quarterback. So what do you do
1:09:59
Speaker 1: with your primary if you're primarily an outside edge rusher
1:10:02
Speaker 1: or an outside worker in terms of an edg rusher,
1:10:04
Speaker 1: If you like turning the arc, if you like turning
1:10:06
Speaker 1: the corner, if your game is predicated on juice and
1:10:08
Speaker 1: bend and athleticism, what do you need to do? You
1:10:11
Speaker 1: need to develop more of an inside move, which he
1:10:13
Speaker 1: did in this game. Again, this is one small time,
1:10:16
Speaker 1: but was nice about this. Right, So you see Proderck
1:10:18
Speaker 1: Jones first of all, number seventy seven. You see proderct Jones.
1:10:21
Speaker 1: Watch him get out of his stance. Bang, he's cooking.
1:10:24
Speaker 1: Good first step, good first initial kickstep. And you see Solomon,
1:10:30
Speaker 1: what do you get? You get that outside rush? Actually,
1:10:32
Speaker 1: you see him throw that kind of first that first hand.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: He loves to do that and then dip in bend
1:10:37
Speaker 1: around the outside. He'll rip and he'll try and turn
1:10:39
Speaker 1: that corner. But him being able to feel, Okay, I
1:10:44
Speaker 1: can't get by this guy. I can't turn and rip
1:10:47
Speaker 1: and get around. I can't flatten and get around him
1:10:50
Speaker 1: with his positioning. So what does he do? Look at
1:10:52
Speaker 1: this hand on the inside again, It's really nice that
1:10:54
Speaker 1: Solomon has the white gloves and the white sleeves against
1:10:58
Speaker 1: the black Steeler jersey, so you can see that hand placement.
1:11:00
Speaker 1: Look at the hand placement right underneath the arm right
1:11:02
Speaker 1: underneath the armpit of the right tackle Broderick Jones. Watch
1:11:07
Speaker 1: him get that in there. He knows he can't turn
1:11:09
Speaker 1: the corner. He feels that he can't turn the corner,
1:11:11
Speaker 1: so pries him back open inside and gets right down
1:11:15
Speaker 1: on fields, forces a quick underneath throw. Kendall Williamson helps
1:11:21
Speaker 1: force the pass breakup. This is really nice to see
1:11:25
Speaker 1: from Javon Solomon because his game is all predicated upon
1:11:28
Speaker 1: athleticism and bend and moves and turning that outside corner. Now,
1:11:32
Speaker 1: it's nice and I've noted this about him. He understands
1:11:35
Speaker 1: past Rus's plan, and he understands moves and setups. He
1:11:38
Speaker 1: understands throwing this move in the first and second quarter
1:11:42
Speaker 1: or doing it consistently and then showing it again in
1:11:45
Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarter and doing something different. So
1:11:48
Speaker 1: he understands that nature of kind of playing with a
1:11:52
Speaker 1: right tackle and messing with them a little bit. So
1:11:55
Speaker 1: when you have that type of cerebral mentality, that's usually
1:11:59
Speaker 1: a good sign. The biggest thing again was he's just
1:12:01
Speaker 1: under six to one, he's only two hundred and forty
1:12:03
Speaker 1: six pounds. Can he develop that secondary move because we
1:12:07
Speaker 1: know what his primary is, it's that outside rush. Can
1:12:09
Speaker 1: he go through dudes? Can he go speed to power
1:12:11
Speaker 1: and go through somebody's chest or through somebody's face or
1:12:15
Speaker 1: and or I should say, can he have an inside move?
1:12:18
Speaker 1: Is it you feeling that outside and the spin move
1:12:20
Speaker 1: back inside? Is it a rip or a stab back inside?
1:12:24
Speaker 1: Like this? Sell up field and then dart back inside.
1:12:26
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Can he develop a secondary and or
1:12:30
Speaker 1: third move? How can he transition them together? And what's
1:12:33
Speaker 1: nice about this again is he feels he's trying to
1:12:36
Speaker 1: go upfield, can't get it, so he pops back inside.
1:12:39
Speaker 1: Or this also could be he was planning this from
1:12:42
Speaker 1: the get go and he's selling up field and then
1:12:44
Speaker 1: he pops back inside. Either way, it's huge for his
1:12:48
Speaker 1: development in terms of what he can be as a
1:12:50
Speaker 1: rookie because if he can win more on the inside,
1:12:53
Speaker 1: it then opens up the outside rush, which is his
1:12:56
Speaker 1: bread and butter, and it helps him a little bit more.
1:12:58
Speaker 1: If the threat of the inside is there against offensive tackles,
1:13:02
Speaker 1: they have to respect it a little bit more and
1:13:04
Speaker 1: it opens up the outside rush for him to turn
1:13:06
Speaker 1: the corner and run the arc a little bit. Or
1:13:08
Speaker 1: even if they don't respect it, fine, and then guys
1:13:12
Speaker 1: are gonna open themselves up. Like you can see Broderck
1:13:14
Speaker 1: Jones here like he's selling out like for this outside
1:13:17
Speaker 1: he's expecting Solomon to continue around the corner. He's got
1:13:20
Speaker 1: his hands on him, and Brodrick Jones is just expecting,
1:13:22
Speaker 1: all right, I got my hands on him, I'm latched.
1:13:24
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ride him around the pocket and it's
1:13:27
Speaker 1: the end of the day. But Solomon feels that really
1:13:31
Speaker 1: good hand placement again. And then you look at the
1:13:33
Speaker 1: size difference. This is where being shorter is gonna help
1:13:35
Speaker 1: a little bit because he's got the leverage advantage. Low
1:13:38
Speaker 1: man wins. You hear that phrase all the time. Gets
1:13:40
Speaker 1: underneath pries him open, boom, rips through, bears down. Nice
1:13:46
Speaker 1: play by mister Devon Solomon one that again got me
1:13:50
Speaker 1: really really really excited. Bum bum bum bum bum question
1:14:01
Speaker 1: from time ignoring potential, who's the better defensive end today,
1:14:05
Speaker 1: Solomon or Kingsley. Oh, Kingsley had a lot of good rushes.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Javon Solomon just because I think he
1:14:16
Speaker 1: understands pass rush play a little bit more. I think
1:14:19
Speaker 1: Kingsley already has a bit more of a well rounded
1:14:22
Speaker 1: move set in terms of being able to like win
1:14:24
Speaker 1: inside a little bit as well, in addition to going outside.
1:14:27
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say Javon Solomon. That's a really good question. Yeah,
1:14:31
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lean Solomon on that one. All right,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: this one fourth down stop. I think everybody kind of
1:14:37
Speaker 1: knows this play from this game. I just wanted to
1:14:40
Speaker 1: highlight a couple aspects of it. Really, JaMarcus Ingram here
1:14:44
Speaker 1: in terms of why this works. So this is modern
1:14:48
Speaker 1: day triple option football. We talk about kind of what
1:14:51
Speaker 1: the RPO game is here and we'll show you on
1:14:54
Speaker 1: the snaps. So when I say modern day triple option,
1:14:57
Speaker 1: it's because you have three options. So the first option
1:14:59
Speaker 1: he is for fields to hand off this ball. The
1:15:03
Speaker 1: section second option is for Fields to keep this ball
1:15:06
Speaker 1: and running himself. The third option is for fields to
1:15:08
Speaker 1: throw this ball to the bubble out here, the bubble screen.
1:15:11
Speaker 1: I should say, So what Field is doing first is
1:15:15
Speaker 1: he is reading this end man on the line of scrimmage,
1:15:17
Speaker 1: typical readoption stuff, right, Cameron Kline, who actually has had
1:15:21
Speaker 1: a pretty decent preseason versus the run and as a
1:15:24
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Cameron Klin, I think is somebody who's made
1:15:27
Speaker 1: that edge conversation a little interesting. Like if some if
1:15:32
Speaker 1: you wanted to tell me that you think Cameron Kline
1:15:34
Speaker 1: should be edge five and Smooth should be out and
1:15:38
Speaker 1: King and Solomon should be edge four, I wouldn't think
1:15:41
Speaker 1: you're completely crazy. Cameron Klein's kind of played himself pretty well. Again,
1:15:45
Speaker 1: it's it's been against twos and threes and fours, but
1:15:47
Speaker 1: he's had some nice reps. So this is Cameron Klein here.
1:15:50
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that surf technique from Cameron Kline. So
1:15:53
Speaker 1: he breaks down, he muddies this a little bit, right.
1:15:55
Speaker 1: So what Fields is doing is he's trying to read
1:15:57
Speaker 1: Cameron Cline. If Klein sells out versus the run, Fields
1:16:02
Speaker 1: is keeping it. If climb client stays outside Fields is
1:16:06
Speaker 1: handed and off, and that's that. But you get that
1:16:09
Speaker 1: surf technique from Cameron Kline who kind of muddies it
1:16:12
Speaker 1: a little bit. And if you notice if he would
1:16:14
Speaker 1: have handed it off, it looks like the running back
1:16:16
Speaker 1: probably gets the first down. But this conversation for another time.
1:16:19
Speaker 1: So that's the first piece, right Fields, Okay, Now the
1:16:24
Speaker 1: second piece is the gap exchange between Klein and mister
1:16:28
Speaker 1: and and mister Joe andreeson Buffalo Joe. So he's coming
1:16:31
Speaker 1: down on this gap, which means Andreasen is gonna flow
1:16:35
Speaker 1: over the top. And to kind of put that in
1:16:38
Speaker 1: perspective for you, let me go to this end zone angle,
1:16:41
Speaker 1: which again puts that surf technique from Cameron Kleine off
1:16:44
Speaker 1: the left edge in the position right. So if you
1:16:46
Speaker 1: look at this, Client's gonna come here Andreason's gonna come here.
1:16:49
Speaker 1: It's a common way teams deal with the read option.
1:16:54
Speaker 1: I feel like Buffalo probably anticipated this come in, they
1:16:57
Speaker 1: saw it. They were ready for it just based on
1:17:00
Speaker 1: how they played it, which is nice for them. So
1:17:04
Speaker 1: here comes Klein Andresen comes around. You'll watch Cameron Cline
1:17:09
Speaker 1: slow play this a little bit again, that surf technique.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: He's not completely selling out. And because he's not completely
1:17:14
Speaker 1: selling out, this is what causes Andreasen to kind of
1:17:17
Speaker 1: take the angle that he does where he shaves it
1:17:21
Speaker 1: close to Cline. Okay, now I'm gonna go back to
1:17:23
Speaker 1: the sideline angle because I just wanted to highlight that
1:17:25
Speaker 1: play from Cline in the gap exchange between Cline and Andresen.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Now here we go. Not to knock anything the Bills
1:17:34
Speaker 1: do here or even knock fields. Throw the bubble. This
1:17:39
Speaker 1: is probably a first down if he throws the football.
1:17:40
Speaker 1: I don't want to say probably, just because you never know.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Maybe the guy drops it, or maybe, you know, Hardy
1:17:45
Speaker 1: just decides to run through this guy's face and he
1:17:48
Speaker 1: blows it up. You never know. There's no guarantees on
1:17:50
Speaker 1: something that's a hypothetical or a theory. But throw the bubble.
1:17:55
Speaker 1: You got one on one here. Here's the first down marker.
1:17:58
Speaker 1: The first down line is the twe He's going to
1:18:01
Speaker 1: catch the ball here and all he needs to do
1:18:02
Speaker 1: is get right here and it's probably a first down.
1:18:04
Speaker 1: Or if Hardy plays it on the outside, maybe he
1:18:07
Speaker 1: cuts inside. One of these guys make the tackle. But
1:18:10
Speaker 1: guys still probably getting to hear or hear somewhere in
1:18:12
Speaker 1: that area. So all Fields needs to do is throw
1:18:15
Speaker 1: this ball and it's probably a first down for the Steelers.
1:18:19
Speaker 1: But he doesn't throw it. I understand him not handing
1:18:22
Speaker 1: the ball off because Klein muddies it a little bit,
1:18:25
Speaker 1: Like you're like, even just watching Cameron Klein here, watch
1:18:29
Speaker 1: him come off the edge, like even with us watching it.
1:18:33
Speaker 1: He comes off the line and then he fires his
1:18:35
Speaker 1: feet again that surf technique. You're kind of like, uh,
1:18:37
Speaker 1: is he crashing? Is he staying? And then again, if
1:18:39
Speaker 1: you're justin Fields, the athlete that you are, Oh, bro,
1:18:42
Speaker 1: you're staying here. I can beat you to the edge.
1:18:44
Speaker 1: I'm golden. I'm keeping the ball. I understand that. But
1:18:47
Speaker 1: once he starts taking off, this is guarantee. I feel
1:18:50
Speaker 1: like this is guaranteed. Throw the bubble. Throw the bubble right,
1:18:53
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He keeps it fine, understandable. This is where
1:18:57
Speaker 1: this play gets made by mister JaMarcus Ingram. So you've
1:19:01
Speaker 1: got the tight end here. Who is going to be
1:19:03
Speaker 1: responsible for blocking JaMarcus Ingram. I don't know if he
1:19:07
Speaker 1: fakes like he's gonna block, Like the tempo of it.
1:19:11
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's supposed to go out and
1:19:13
Speaker 1: just block JaMarcus Ingram right away. I would think he's
1:19:15
Speaker 1: supposed to, But the way he turns and looks at
1:19:18
Speaker 1: Andreason and then pops back outside, I feel like he's
1:19:22
Speaker 1: trying to mislead Ingram and try and get him to
1:19:25
Speaker 1: cut in a little bit so he can set up
1:19:26
Speaker 1: a better angle, like I don't know if that's supposed
1:19:28
Speaker 1: to be a decoy. My thought is he should be
1:19:31
Speaker 1: going immediately to the apex player, which is JaMarcus Ingram,
1:19:36
Speaker 1: but he doesn't, which is fine for the bills. Ingram
1:19:40
Speaker 1: plays through this outside shoulder, and I know Andreson is
1:19:43
Speaker 1: the one that everyone's focused on, and I get it right.
1:19:45
Speaker 1: Here's Andreasen. Watch him just shoot or get shot out
1:19:49
Speaker 1: of a cannon bang and close down real fast. Right.
1:19:53
Speaker 1: But his angle gets made right because of JaMarcus Ingram,
1:19:56
Speaker 1: which is why I have him highlighted. He plays through
1:19:59
Speaker 1: the outside shoulder or the tight end, and this is
1:20:02
Speaker 1: what forces Fields to have the bubble out instead of
1:20:06
Speaker 1: having a direct line to that first down. Ingram strings
1:20:09
Speaker 1: this play out and forces Fields to actually have to
1:20:13
Speaker 1: retreat and leads him into andreason, and then the other
1:20:18
Speaker 1: nice aspect of this play. You'll see another defender coming
1:20:20
Speaker 1: from here, but watch all the defense just swarms. They
1:20:22
Speaker 1: were doing this all game one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
1:20:29
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna get a ninth defender from over here.
1:20:31
Speaker 1: There's nine Bills players around this ball at the end.
1:20:36
Speaker 1: That's nice. That's good swarm into the football, especially from
1:20:38
Speaker 1: dudes who are trying to make the squad like that's
1:20:40
Speaker 1: good effort and the sense of urgency from a defense.
1:20:43
Speaker 1: So a nice play from andresen Cameron Klein kind of
1:20:48
Speaker 1: muddying it a little bit with his surf technique off
1:20:50
Speaker 1: the edge, but again I think a really really good
1:20:52
Speaker 1: play from JaMarcus Ingram in the slot. JaMarcus Ingram another
1:20:55
Speaker 1: dude similar to Daikwon Hardy. Ingram was playing on the
1:20:57
Speaker 1: outside this year. He got his start really as a
1:21:00
Speaker 1: slot corner with this Bill squad plays a lot of
1:21:03
Speaker 1: special teams reps Hardy and Ingram giving you both inside
1:21:06
Speaker 1: outside versatility is a nice piece. And then the physicality
1:21:09
Speaker 1: and the mentality that Ingram plays with it just fits
1:21:13
Speaker 1: so well as an APEX defender, just with the tackling
1:21:16
Speaker 1: and the hitting and the straight line tenacity and violence
1:21:20
Speaker 1: that he Plea plays with. Again, just watch him play
1:21:23
Speaker 1: through that shoulder right through takes the angle. Nos's help
1:21:27
Speaker 1: is there, wants to turn it back inside. That's a
1:21:30
Speaker 1: good job from mister JaMarcus Ingram. So again shout out
1:21:32
Speaker 1: to andreason. But I think this is a really good
1:21:35
Speaker 1: play from JaMarcus Ingram again, take advantage of the Steelers'
1:21:39
Speaker 1: mistakes which they had several on on that play. Let
1:21:45
Speaker 1: us go to the other side of the ball and
1:21:52
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Speaker 1: personal account manager. Very nice. As we transition to the
1:22:44
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, mentioned that turf toe injury
1:22:47
Speaker 1: for Curtis Samuel earlier, and we read the breakdown from
1:22:50
Speaker 1: mister Kyle Tremble at banged up bills. We've got two here,
1:22:54
Speaker 1: kind of the over hunder for receiving yards or Curtis
1:22:56
Speaker 1: Samuel at six hundred and twenty five and a half,
1:22:58
Speaker 1: but then also the receiving touchdowns over four and a
1:23:02
Speaker 1: half and under four and a half the turf toe Winjo,
1:23:05
Speaker 1: I think Muddy is it a little bit in terms
1:23:07
Speaker 1: of his usage and what he is. I feel like
1:23:10
Speaker 1: it's still a safe bet to smash the over on
1:23:12
Speaker 1: his receiving yards. I think he's a guy that looks
1:23:15
Speaker 1: to be getting scheme touches and manufactured touches in Joe
1:23:18
Speaker 1: Brady's offense, So I am looking to hit that over
1:23:21
Speaker 1: in terms of his receiving yards. For Curtis Samuel touchdowns,
1:23:24
Speaker 1: I think is a little murky for him. I don't
1:23:28
Speaker 1: know how much low red zone work he's gonna get.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: Considering you've got Kincaid, you've got Colman, you've got Ray Davis,
1:23:34
Speaker 1: You've got James Cook, You've got Dawson Knox, and then
1:23:37
Speaker 1: you've got Josh Allen, who's his own touchdown vulture in
1:23:39
Speaker 1: his own right. I think the touchdowns, there's only so
1:23:44
Speaker 1: many to go around. I'm gonna go under four and
1:23:46
Speaker 1: a half because I could see Curtis, I really could
1:23:48
Speaker 1: see Samuel be in like three to six touchdowns with
1:23:51
Speaker 1: three to five touchdowns, So I think four and a
1:23:52
Speaker 1: half is a really good line. I'm gonna say under
1:23:56
Speaker 1: four and a half touchdowns for Curtis Samuel, but i'm
1:23:58
Speaker 1: gonna say over the six hundred and twenty five receiving
1:24:01
Speaker 1: yards for mister Samuel. And again, I'm bringing that up
1:24:04
Speaker 1: because one of the players we're going to talk about
1:24:07
Speaker 1: in this next aspect of the show is the wider
1:24:12
Speaker 1: is mister Tyrol Shavers, who plays the wide receiver position.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: And again, with the injury to MBS, the injury to
1:24:20
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, just what does that mean for this position
1:24:22
Speaker 1: group being in terms of how many do they keep
1:24:24
Speaker 1: and what they do and so on and so forth.
1:24:27
Speaker 1: So let us go to the other side of the ball.
1:24:34
Speaker 1: Boom boom, Actually this first play, where's the first play?
1:24:37
Speaker 1: I want to show there's some tight ends. Mister tyrrel Shavers.
1:24:41
Speaker 1: I want to show him here and lead off with
1:24:43
Speaker 1: him time into the wide receiver conversation. Again, it was
1:24:48
Speaker 1: a performance from the periphery for the Bills in this
1:24:52
Speaker 1: game where I just I find I find it hard
1:24:57
Speaker 1: to kind of fault most of them, given Trubisky wasn't
1:24:59
Speaker 1: playing great. Then he gets banged up and Denucci comes
1:25:01
Speaker 1: in and he does not know the playbook, He does
1:25:03
Speaker 1: not know the passing offense. Oh sorry, I should probably
1:25:05
Speaker 1: add this film to the stage instead of just sitting
1:25:07
Speaker 1: here talking about it. I always forget to do that,
1:25:10
Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to again. And I think
1:25:12
Speaker 1: for a lot of people here right, like evaluate the
1:25:14
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Who should be wide receiver five? Who
1:25:17
Speaker 1: should be wide receiver six? If MBS is banged up,
1:25:19
Speaker 1: who should replace him as wide receiver five? Do you
1:25:22
Speaker 1: still keep six wide receivers? Who are they have? Curtis
1:25:25
Speaker 1: Samuel and MBS are both banged up. Who are the
1:25:28
Speaker 1: two receivers that take their spot because we haven't seen
1:25:30
Speaker 1: a lot from a pass catching standpoint for the receivers.
1:25:34
Speaker 1: But what's nice for Tyrol shavers Age? You're going to
1:25:37
Speaker 1: get the special teams value and what he showed as
1:25:39
Speaker 1: a blocker in this game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think,
1:25:43
Speaker 1: who just really is going to endear him to Sean
1:25:46
Speaker 1: McDermott and this coaching staff. And this isn't just like, oh,
1:25:48
Speaker 1: of course mcdermot's going to pick the receiver who run
1:25:50
Speaker 1: blocks well, but Shaver's just with his size I think
1:25:54
Speaker 1: is a very interesting conversation starter overall. So again, wide
1:25:59
Speaker 1: receiver has been mess with this team of the preseason
1:26:01
Speaker 1: because of the target opportunities or lack thereob with the
1:26:04
Speaker 1: passing offense, because the QB play hasn't been ideal, which
1:26:07
Speaker 1: makes it hard to evaluate the wide receiver spot in
1:26:09
Speaker 1: the wide receiver competition, MVS in general has been inconsistent,
1:26:14
Speaker 1: which muddies the wide receiver five and beyond spot. And
1:26:17
Speaker 1: now he's injured. So if you take all that in
1:26:20
Speaker 1: conjunction with itself or together, were they going to keep
1:26:23
Speaker 1: five or six wide receivers initially? If MBS misses time.
1:26:27
Speaker 1: Do they keep five or do they keep six? Like?
1:26:31
Speaker 1: How does that all coalesce into one another? If everybody
1:26:35
Speaker 1: was fine and healthy and dandy, right, were they going
1:26:37
Speaker 1: to keep five or were they going to keep six?
1:26:40
Speaker 1: If they were going to keep five, was MBS the
1:26:42
Speaker 1: fifth or was he not? And now with him banged
1:26:44
Speaker 1: up it gets even muddier. I think if he's banged up,
1:26:49
Speaker 1: I think they only keep five. And given the lack
1:26:51
Speaker 1: of showing out we've seen in the position, unless they're
1:26:53
Speaker 1: just seeing something in practice that isn't really being noted.
1:26:57
Speaker 1: So even if MBS is healthy, I feel they might
1:27:00
Speaker 1: only still keep five just because who's really shown out?
1:27:03
Speaker 1: But if it is somebody to be wide receiver six
1:27:06
Speaker 1: or wide receiver five to replace MVS, I think Tyrel
1:27:10
Speaker 1: Shavers has kind of made a case a little bit
1:27:12
Speaker 1: with what he's done in camp, and some of the
1:27:13
Speaker 1: blocking them will show you here. I will not rule
1:27:15
Speaker 1: out kJ Hamler or even Andy Isabella, but Shavers has
1:27:19
Speaker 1: seen plenty of special teams reps and he's offered the
1:27:21
Speaker 1: offense some value again with his blocking. Now, this is
1:27:24
Speaker 1: where you can kind of play either side of the
1:27:26
Speaker 1: argument with the body types they've added to the wide
1:27:29
Speaker 1: receiver room this year. You can make a case four
1:27:32
Speaker 1: and against Tyrrel Shavers. You could say that he's in
1:27:35
Speaker 1: line with the key On Coleman's and the mc collins
1:27:38
Speaker 1: is of the world in terms of size and frame
1:27:40
Speaker 1: and who they are. For those who don't know, mister
1:27:44
Speaker 1: Tyrell Shavers, where is he? Where is he? I want
1:27:48
Speaker 1: to get the official thing and make sure I'm not
1:27:51
Speaker 1: talking out of my Yeah, So I thought six foot six,
1:27:53
Speaker 1: two hundred and eleven pounds, four special team snaps in
1:27:58
Speaker 1: Week one against Chicago nine in Week two against the
1:28:02
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. So again, six foot six, two hundred and
1:28:06
Speaker 1: eleven pounds is what he's listed at. So if you
1:28:09
Speaker 1: keep him, do you go in line with that kind
1:28:11
Speaker 1: of bigger body type size and frame at wide receiver,
1:28:14
Speaker 1: Or maybe they don't want another kind of like for
1:28:17
Speaker 1: like in that room. Maybe they want more of a
1:28:19
Speaker 1: pure speed guy like a kJ Hammler. Maybe they want
1:28:21
Speaker 1: someone with a little more juice and jitterbug to their game,
1:28:24
Speaker 1: like Andy Isabella who also has some speed as well.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: So you can kind of make a case for and
1:28:29
Speaker 1: against him, But at the end of the day, some
1:28:31
Speaker 1: really nice run blocking reps, which I know isn't sexy
1:28:34
Speaker 1: and isn't fun. Well, one of these I think is
1:28:36
Speaker 1: a really sexy run block, but we'll kind of take
1:28:38
Speaker 1: a piek. So here's Shavers. He came in motion from here,
1:28:41
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get a nice run block here on
1:28:44
Speaker 1: this duo run. Watch the safety come off the edge
1:28:48
Speaker 1: and watch Shavers just envelop him. Bang. Not only does
1:28:52
Speaker 1: he get into him again, watch it. This is a
1:28:56
Speaker 1: pure like hammer and nail situation. This safety is coming
1:28:59
Speaker 1: off the edge, he's coming downhill. Watch Shavers match him.
1:29:02
Speaker 1: He's not just okay, cool, I'm gonna be the nail,
1:29:04
Speaker 1: You be the hammer. I'll just kind of catch him.
1:29:06
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. I'll just get in your way
1:29:08
Speaker 1: a little bit. Watch Shavers dip his head and shoulder
1:29:12
Speaker 1: and get his body into this safety. He gets lower
1:29:16
Speaker 1: than the safety. If you notice there again, what do
1:29:18
Speaker 1: we talk about earlier with Solomon getting through Roger Jones
1:29:21
Speaker 1: on the inside right low man wins. Look at the
1:29:23
Speaker 1: head position, Look how much lower he is and watch
1:29:26
Speaker 1: him boom. You see him turn that man upright, watch
1:29:30
Speaker 1: him in real time get underneath the safety. The safety
1:29:33
Speaker 1: goes upright, he doesn't go through Shavers. He gets put up,
1:29:37
Speaker 1: so his momentum is taken away because instead of going through,
1:29:41
Speaker 1: he gets stood up. So one, that's a really good
1:29:43
Speaker 1: impact block from Shavers to get underneath. And also look
1:29:47
Speaker 1: at the footwork two of shavers. Watch Shavers not get
1:29:51
Speaker 1: knocked back. Here's his feet. He doesn't get knocked back
1:29:54
Speaker 1: this way, and then kind of stabilizes himself and anchors
1:29:57
Speaker 1: a little bit. He takes the fight to this safe
1:30:00
Speaker 1: and steps through him. So he takes the safety up,
1:30:04
Speaker 1: steps through him. And then watch hand placement outside a
1:30:08
Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, you don't want that. You don't want
1:30:10
Speaker 1: your hand outside the frame. What are you gonna do
1:30:12
Speaker 1: about it? Gets that hand inside a little bit more
1:30:16
Speaker 1: towards kind of the arm pit a little bit, and
1:30:18
Speaker 1: just watch him keep working and keep working, doesn't detach.
1:30:23
Speaker 1: Just a good physical block from Tyrrel Shavers. And this
1:30:26
Speaker 1: is not a concept. The Bills run all the time.
1:30:29
Speaker 1: This is a duo run. They love this. They love
1:30:32
Speaker 1: to take that wide receiver. Whether it was Trent Sherfield
1:30:35
Speaker 1: or Gabe Davis or Khalil Shakir, or it might be
1:30:38
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel or it could be MATC. Collins. I guess
1:30:42
Speaker 1: it could be key On, but I don't really see
1:30:43
Speaker 1: that role for him. They love to take these bigger
1:30:46
Speaker 1: body wide receivers on this concept, and sometimes you will
1:30:49
Speaker 1: see them insert between the tight end of the right tackle.
1:30:52
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll see what he did here and kind of
1:30:54
Speaker 1: mash down on whoever's coming from the outside there. This
1:30:58
Speaker 1: is a good block, physical at the impact point, at
1:31:00
Speaker 1: the collision point, stalls his man, takes his momentum, knocks
1:31:05
Speaker 1: him upright, knocks him back, and then takes him out
1:31:09
Speaker 1: and maintains contact about the way.
1:31:10
Speaker 2: Like.
1:31:11
Speaker 1: He completely takes that dude out of play. This one
1:31:14
Speaker 1: is the best one like and the good comment here
1:31:16
Speaker 1: from Charles saying, still think Shavers can be an elite
1:31:19
Speaker 1: gunner on punt returns. Absolutely, he had a good He
1:31:23
Speaker 1: kind of got mucked up a little bit, but then
1:31:26
Speaker 1: he had a nice finish on a punt coverage rep. Yeah.
1:31:30
Speaker 1: And that's also point of it too, part of part
1:31:31
Speaker 1: of it too. Right, if you're wide receiver five and
1:31:34
Speaker 1: wide receiver six can offer, you're just looking for some
1:31:36
Speaker 1: value as you get to the bottom of your depth chart. Right,
1:31:38
Speaker 1: Not everyone's team. I don't even say everyone see unless
1:31:42
Speaker 1: you're the friggin Packers who have like four and five
1:31:44
Speaker 1: really good wide receivers. Once you get to like wide
1:31:47
Speaker 1: receiver four and five and six on most teams, you're
1:31:51
Speaker 1: just looking for some kind of value, in some kind
1:31:52
Speaker 1: of usefulness if you have a wide receiver five or
1:31:54
Speaker 1: a wide receiver six that offers you good special teams
1:31:57
Speaker 1: value and also can function as a rum blocker like
1:31:59
Speaker 1: this and then offers some size maybe in some jump
1:32:02
Speaker 1: ball scenarios or some down the field aspect as a
1:32:04
Speaker 1: pass catcher. I think that's a little more limited. But
1:32:06
Speaker 1: even if it's just the value of a good run
1:32:08
Speaker 1: blocker and special teams value, that's good for the bottom
1:32:12
Speaker 1: of your depth chart at the wide receiver spot. This
1:32:16
Speaker 1: one is beautiful. Watch the block that he lays on
1:32:20
Speaker 1: this safety. Here he lights this dude up. This is
1:32:27
Speaker 1: Jalen Elliott, number thirty four. Just I really kind of
1:32:31
Speaker 1: just wanted to If I can only pick one play
1:32:32
Speaker 1: from this game to watch, it would be this one
1:32:38
Speaker 1: crushes him. That's a hit stick type block. Bang and again,
1:32:44
Speaker 1: what do you see? What do you see from this block? Again?
1:32:47
Speaker 1: Like we saw on the previous one, right, not letting
1:32:50
Speaker 1: the fight get taken to him, not just be in
1:32:52
Speaker 1: the nail and letting the defender be the hammer. He
1:32:55
Speaker 1: gets low again, low man wins. Looking it's kind of
1:32:58
Speaker 1: hard to see because mckitti's in the way, but look
1:33:00
Speaker 1: at the crown of their helmets. The black and gold
1:33:03
Speaker 1: is over the blue, white and red. That's because Shavers
1:33:06
Speaker 1: is under him. And to get under a defender like
1:33:09
Speaker 1: that again, if you're Tyrol Shavers, who's listed at six
1:33:12
Speaker 1: foot six, that's not an easy thing to do. And
1:33:15
Speaker 1: just boom lowers the boom on that safety and watch
1:33:19
Speaker 1: from the other end zone angle two, because that's always fun.
1:33:24
Speaker 1: Here's Shavers again bang similar look again on this run
1:33:28
Speaker 1: as the previous play, watch him step forward. This is
1:33:31
Speaker 1: also nice too write because he walks up and he
1:33:36
Speaker 1: sees this safety pre snap already peeking inside. So instead
1:33:41
Speaker 1: of on the last rep we saw the safety came
1:33:44
Speaker 1: late and kind of came this way on Shavers, this
1:33:47
Speaker 1: time his man is threatening to go inside on the snap.
1:33:51
Speaker 1: So watch Shavers meet him and step forward, because if
1:33:55
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that and he allows this man to
1:33:58
Speaker 1: get that inside, this is to jack up Ray Davis
1:34:01
Speaker 1: on this dual run, Davis is trying to get upfield.
1:34:03
Speaker 1: He's trying to read that front side playside linebacker and
1:34:06
Speaker 1: then go off of that. If this safety gets in here,
1:34:11
Speaker 1: it can stop the play before it could start. He
1:34:12
Speaker 1: has the opportunity to kind of meet Davis at the
1:34:14
Speaker 1: mesh point in the backfield, and then maybe you're hoping
1:34:17
Speaker 1: Davis can step and juke and bounce right here, but
1:34:20
Speaker 1: then the corner has the opportunity to meet here, so
1:34:22
Speaker 1: then Davis would have to make two guys miss and
1:34:24
Speaker 1: then you start to get kind of into an unfortunate situation.
1:34:27
Speaker 1: Shavers doesn't let that happen. Forget where I was. Oh,
1:34:30
Speaker 1: that's a good image. So watch Shavers step up, meets
1:34:34
Speaker 1: that man, takes the fight to him, and again what
1:34:37
Speaker 1: do we see? Like I talked about who's high, who's low?
1:34:44
Speaker 1: Boom crushed, then I said move from Ray Davis on
1:34:51
Speaker 1: the outside. Then he draws the flag. There just a
1:34:54
Speaker 1: really nice block from Tyrol Shavers watching in real time.
1:34:56
Speaker 1: One more from this end zone angle. Bang Oo, that's pretty.
1:35:02
Speaker 1: That's very very very very very pretty. And as how
1:35:06
Speaker 1: it's done. One two three says this helps his case greatly.
1:35:08
Speaker 1: Absolutely again, You're just trying to find some semblance of
1:35:11
Speaker 1: value in these depth guys. Right, your wide receiver five,
1:35:15
Speaker 1: your wide receiver six? What can you offer? Cool? You're
1:35:19
Speaker 1: a good run blocker and a willing run blocker. You
1:35:21
Speaker 1: offer some physicality, and you play special teams for most
1:35:24
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good case. Want to go to the
1:35:28
Speaker 1: tight end conversation? So I think, and who asked this
1:35:32
Speaker 1: question earlier, I pulled it up at the time Scott
1:35:35
Speaker 1: Blakely said, any chance we get five wide receivers four
1:35:38
Speaker 1: tight ends? I think you could, depending on even if
1:35:40
Speaker 1: MBS is healthy. I think there was a chance they
1:35:42
Speaker 1: might only keep five wide receivers because no one was
1:35:45
Speaker 1: really declaring. With Shavers playing like you did, I think
1:35:48
Speaker 1: it could increase the odds if MBS is healthy that
1:35:51
Speaker 1: you keep six wide receivers and Shavers is the six
1:35:54
Speaker 1: because of what he offers on special teams. So I
1:35:57
Speaker 1: feel like Shavers has made a good case as a
1:36:02
Speaker 1: riser to kind of make this team, either in replacing
1:36:05
Speaker 1: MBS or being wide receiver six. If MBS is out,
1:36:09
Speaker 1: if he gets cut, if he gets put on IR,
1:36:12
Speaker 1: I think there is a chance you can see five
1:36:14
Speaker 1: wide receivers and four tight ends if you don't see
1:36:16
Speaker 1: four tight ends or also let's bag into that, right,
1:36:19
Speaker 1: whatever happens with Quenton Morris, like we talked about, we
1:36:22
Speaker 1: read that injury earlier from Kyle Trimble from banged up Bills,
1:36:26
Speaker 1: what that timeline looks like, we'll see a good diagnosis.
1:36:29
Speaker 1: Good comment here from Jamal saying you need good backups. Absolutely,
1:36:32
Speaker 1: you're looking for functionality and value in your backups. Right.
1:36:35
Speaker 1: Nobody's sitting on a ton of all pros as their
1:36:36
Speaker 1: backups unless you're like the forty nine ers who figured
1:36:39
Speaker 1: out a way to get studs every year and just
1:36:42
Speaker 1: turn anybody on their defensive line into a velociraptor. Quentin
1:36:47
Speaker 1: Morris will see what happens with his injury diagnosis and
1:36:49
Speaker 1: evaluation going forward. But like we talked about earlier, he
1:36:52
Speaker 1: has a good all around skill set, especially for a
1:36:54
Speaker 1: tight end three. He can get vertical, he can function
1:36:57
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher, but he also can mash as
1:36:59
Speaker 1: a rumble on safeties, on linebackers on edges like. He
1:37:03
Speaker 1: gives you some physicality in addition to the past catching piece, right,
1:37:06
Speaker 1: so being able to live in the run blocking, past
1:37:09
Speaker 1: catching world as a tight end three behind Dalton Kincaid
1:37:13
Speaker 1: and Dawson Knox, Quinton Morris provides you really good value.
1:37:16
Speaker 1: If Morris is out and the case becomes who is
1:37:19
Speaker 1: tight end three, you have two options. You've got Trey
1:37:21
Speaker 1: McKitty and you've got Zach Davidson. Shout out to Joe
1:37:24
Speaker 1: Marino for when were we dming yesterday and kind of
1:37:28
Speaker 1: having this conversation in terms of, you know, Trey McKitty
1:37:33
Speaker 1: versus Zach Davidson as a backup. What you really have
1:37:36
Speaker 1: between the two of them is just siloed roles and
1:37:39
Speaker 1: skill sets versus the all around nature of what Quinton
1:37:42
Speaker 1: Morris would be. Trey McKitty is in that blocking type
1:37:46
Speaker 1: of mold of a tight end, and Zach Davidson is
1:37:49
Speaker 1: in more of the past catching mold of a tight end.
1:37:51
Speaker 1: He's basically like a big receiver in a tight ends
1:37:54
Speaker 1: type of body. Although he is a willing blocker, he's
1:37:56
Speaker 1: just not as good of a blocker as Trey McKitty.
1:38:00
Speaker 1: I wanted to pull two of these plays that are
1:38:01
Speaker 1: representative of their skill sets. This first one is for
1:38:05
Speaker 1: mister Trey McKitty. Oh And, as Daniel says, couldn't Gilliam
1:38:09
Speaker 1: also be tight end up. Absolutely, he can factor in
1:38:12
Speaker 1: there as well. As you're you know, that full back,
1:38:15
Speaker 1: h back tight end type of role, he's not going
1:38:17
Speaker 1: to function I think as you're straight up in line
1:38:20
Speaker 1: tight end, which is what Morris could offer you, which
1:38:24
Speaker 1: is what McKitty could offer you, Dawson Knox offers you.
1:38:27
Speaker 1: I don't think Davidson really offers it because of what
1:38:30
Speaker 1: he is at the point of attack, So it's a
1:38:32
Speaker 1: little bit of a different piece. I guess Gilliam in
1:38:34
Speaker 1: a worse case, if it's Gillium or Davidson as your
1:38:36
Speaker 1: inline tight end, I'll take Gillium. But Gilliam is more
1:38:39
Speaker 1: of like an h back tight end than pure inline
1:38:42
Speaker 1: tight end. That so that factors into it a little bit.
1:38:44
Speaker 1: But sure like Gilliam one hundred percent could be factored
1:38:46
Speaker 1: into the tight end depth, especially if you want to
1:38:48
Speaker 1: hip them off from kind of condensed formations or heavier
1:38:50
Speaker 1: personnel groupings. You could see that could comment there. Daniel
1:38:54
Speaker 1: well Don, I completely forgot about Gilliam. So let's watch
1:38:57
Speaker 1: this play from Trey mcckitty. This is really nice. This
1:39:00
Speaker 1: is him against a legitimate defensive lineman. Pull up the
1:39:05
Speaker 1: weight here against mister demarn Leal from the University of
1:39:11
Speaker 1: Texas A and m listed at two hundred and ninety pounds.
1:39:15
Speaker 1: So again a legitimate defensive lineman that Trey McKitty is
1:39:18
Speaker 1: going against. He's going to get some chip help here
1:39:21
Speaker 1: from Quintin Morris. Shout out to quin Morris, so he
1:39:25
Speaker 1: doesn't start this initially all by himself. We get a
1:39:27
Speaker 1: good chip that helps a little bit. Right, that chip
1:39:30
Speaker 1: kind of takes some of that momentum from ninety eight,
1:39:34
Speaker 1: jacks him up a little bit. But what's nice here
1:39:36
Speaker 1: is watch this so again we get some nice we
1:39:38
Speaker 1: get some nice color variation. Shout out to Leal with
1:39:40
Speaker 1: the yellow glove and the yellow arm sleeve shows up. Well,
1:39:43
Speaker 1: he gets that arm underneath. He's trying to hook that
1:39:45
Speaker 1: arm and then pull himself through that outside shoulder of
1:39:48
Speaker 1: Trey McKitty. McKitty feels that and as Leal tries to
1:39:54
Speaker 1: club himself through. So he's trying to club himself and
1:39:56
Speaker 1: pull himself through that outside shoulder. Watch McKitty just move
1:39:59
Speaker 1: his feet and look how he detaches that right arm.
1:40:03
Speaker 1: He pulls that right arm that Lea was trying to
1:40:06
Speaker 1: like hook and grab. He takes it while he's moving
1:40:09
Speaker 1: his feet and then tries to refit it. Okay, now
1:40:12
Speaker 1: he's not in a great position again, Why hand on
1:40:15
Speaker 1: the back, hand on the back, clear his day in
1:40:18
Speaker 1: front of the official. That's an easy way to kind
1:40:19
Speaker 1: of get yourself flag because your hands are outside the frame.
1:40:22
Speaker 1: You're on the back now, even though they don't call
1:40:25
Speaker 1: that holding when defenders are trying to rip through, if
1:40:27
Speaker 1: you are off the frame and basically like bear hugging
1:40:30
Speaker 1: a dude's neck, you're gonna start to get called for holding.
1:40:32
Speaker 1: So it's kind of messy right now. Right Watch him
1:40:35
Speaker 1: just keep his feet moving, and that is what the
1:40:38
Speaker 1: key is. His hands are not in great position, but
1:40:41
Speaker 1: the hands control the feet are what drive. The feet
1:40:45
Speaker 1: are what allow you to kind of displace somebody or
1:40:48
Speaker 1: move somebody. So this is a really nice recovery from
1:40:52
Speaker 1: Trey McKitty, whose hands get a little wild. Watch him
1:40:56
Speaker 1: just move the feet, move the feet, move the feet.
1:41:00
Speaker 1: Everything there is him moving his feet to stay in
1:41:02
Speaker 1: front of a guy who's gotten him by a considerable
1:41:05
Speaker 1: considerable amount of weight. And even though he gets that
1:41:07
Speaker 1: chip help from Quintin Moore's He's essentially one on one
1:41:10
Speaker 1: in pass pro versus a second team defensive lineman. That's
1:41:13
Speaker 1: a nice job of battling for Trey McKitty. That's what
1:41:16
Speaker 1: he offers you. Zach Davidson is not offering you this,
1:41:18
Speaker 1: and I'll say that as a knock. It's just the
1:41:20
Speaker 1: silo skill set that they operate in. Again, feel that arm. Okay,
1:41:24
Speaker 1: let me move my feet. This is it right here
1:41:26
Speaker 1: right Instead of allowing him to turn this way and
1:41:29
Speaker 1: McKitty gets kind of put on the back foot or
1:41:32
Speaker 1: him grabbing him here and turning him and getting calls
1:41:35
Speaker 1: for the whole cold. Watch him just move his feet
1:41:40
Speaker 1: and stay in front of the man, use his feet
1:41:42
Speaker 1: to stay in front of his man. You're just trying
1:41:45
Speaker 1: to do whatever you can to stay in front of
1:41:48
Speaker 1: stay in between the rusher and the quarterback. And that's
1:41:51
Speaker 1: what he does. Watch him just keep moving his feet,
1:41:56
Speaker 1: keep moving your feet, keep moving your feet, keep moving
1:41:58
Speaker 1: your feet, and then he stays on him push them
1:42:00
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's a nice job. That's a nice
1:42:03
Speaker 1: job from trem m kitty again gets the chip help
1:42:05
Speaker 1: from Quintin Morris, but is one on one in pass
1:42:08
Speaker 1: pro against a defensive lineman for a good chunk of time.
1:42:11
Speaker 1: So solid job there from mister Trey McKitty. RJ says,
1:42:16
Speaker 1: it really doesn't help that all these position groups that
1:42:18
Speaker 1: they needed to be figured out in camp, every single
1:42:20
Speaker 1: one is that a massive front of injuries safety, wide, receiver,
1:42:22
Speaker 1: and linebacker one hundred percent.
1:42:24
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:42:24
Speaker 1: It's frustrating, to say the least, and especially two because
1:42:27
Speaker 1: it's not like I don't want anybody to be heard
1:42:29
Speaker 1: long term. But it's not cut and dry. It's not
1:42:31
Speaker 1: like well so and so has done for the year,
1:42:33
Speaker 1: so let's replace them with this. It's a whole bunch
1:42:35
Speaker 1: of like week to week type of guys, which could
1:42:38
Speaker 1: mean anything, and there are a lot of soft muscle
1:42:40
Speaker 1: stuffs here waiting to see how they develop. Can they
1:42:42
Speaker 1: get back to one hundred percent? How much time off
1:42:45
Speaker 1: did they need, how much can it be managed? How
1:42:47
Speaker 1: long are they truly out for? What percentage can they
1:42:49
Speaker 1: play at? How effective will they be? It's just a
1:42:52
Speaker 1: frustratingly muddied conversation. Sophia says, I don't know that looks
1:42:58
Speaker 1: like an obvious hold. I don't know how much I
1:43:00
Speaker 1: like this fair, but again, it's not because he keeps
1:43:03
Speaker 1: his feet moving. Watch how he doesn't pull right here
1:43:07
Speaker 1: where that hand is. It's going to be a hold
1:43:09
Speaker 1: if he grabs this jersey and turns him, But because
1:43:12
Speaker 1: he keeps his feet moving, it doesn't get called. You see,
1:43:15
Speaker 1: that's the key point right here, well not right here,
1:43:19
Speaker 1: but right here. This is the moment of truth. He
1:43:23
Speaker 1: keeps moving this way to stay in front of his
1:43:25
Speaker 1: man because he keeps moving his feet. And then he
1:43:29
Speaker 1: also takes this inside hand that you can't see it
1:43:31
Speaker 1: from this angle, but he's got it clamped on the peck,
1:43:35
Speaker 1: not on the eighth but on the peck underneath there,
1:43:37
Speaker 1: and he's using that to drive. That's why it's not
1:43:40
Speaker 1: a hold. He's not holding him with that outside hand.
1:43:43
Speaker 1: He moves his feet to stay in between. Again, it's
1:43:46
Speaker 1: ugly overall, it's ugly to start, but that's a recovery
1:43:50
Speaker 1: against a dude that has you outweighed and probably would
1:43:53
Speaker 1: have a matchup event she just keeps moving his feet.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: Keep moving your feet. See, he doesn't. He doesn't use
1:43:59
Speaker 1: his hand to win the rep. He doesn't grab, he
1:44:02
Speaker 1: doesn't hold, He keeps moving the feet and stays in
1:44:06
Speaker 1: between his man and the quarterback shuffle shuffle drive. See
1:44:12
Speaker 1: that's the difference. That's why it's not called behold because
1:44:15
Speaker 1: he keeps right here, keeps moving the feet, keeps moving
1:44:18
Speaker 1: the feet. He doesn't get into a spot where he's
1:44:22
Speaker 1: he's like leaning or he's caught off balance and then
1:44:24
Speaker 1: he has to grab and then he has to pull.
1:44:26
Speaker 1: His hands aren't in great position, but once they're not
1:44:29
Speaker 1: in great position, he keeps moving with him. Instead of
1:44:32
Speaker 1: just relying on this to kind of turn him and
1:44:34
Speaker 1: pull him and yank him down, he uses his feet
1:44:37
Speaker 1: to stay in between the man and the quarterback. And
1:44:39
Speaker 1: again that's taking a rep where you're like, uh oh,
1:44:41
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble, not panicking, and finding a way to
1:44:44
Speaker 1: still get the job done. So it's not pretty, it's
1:44:47
Speaker 1: not man, this is teach tape. That's some good footwork
1:44:50
Speaker 1: and a good overall job of understanding the assignment and
1:44:52
Speaker 1: figuring out a way to get it done. But I
1:44:56
Speaker 1: like that thought, Sophia. Well, then this last one here
1:44:58
Speaker 1: is Zach Davidson. No surprise. I feel like, if you
1:45:01
Speaker 1: watch this game, this is a really nice route from
1:45:03
Speaker 1: Zach Davidson. I wanted to use the circle, but it
1:45:05
Speaker 1: was going to put it off frame, whichould annoyed me.
1:45:06
Speaker 1: I also didn't know what angle to pick this play from.
1:45:08
Speaker 1: I think this one really worked out. This is that
1:45:10
Speaker 1: same safety that Tyrol Shaver's jacked up earlier, which is ironic. So,
1:45:15
Speaker 1: mister Zach Davidson here is the number two in this
1:45:20
Speaker 1: there's another outside wide receiver obviously outside, so he's the
1:45:24
Speaker 1: number two on this play. Watch him stem this route inside.
1:45:30
Speaker 1: His body language, his eyes is pacing, everything are selling
1:45:33
Speaker 1: like he's getting up field or he's running it over
1:45:35
Speaker 1: and he feels that safety, start to open up and
1:45:38
Speaker 1: run with him. And once he feels that, puts his
1:45:41
Speaker 1: foot in the ground, turns him inside out. Good ball
1:45:44
Speaker 1: from Trubisky. That's a really good throw. That's a really
1:45:47
Speaker 1: good play from Zack Davidson. Again, good ball from Trubisky.
1:45:50
Speaker 1: But that's a good route from Zach Davidson. Let's go
1:45:53
Speaker 1: back a little bit. Stem this thing inside. Whoop. Not
1:45:57
Speaker 1: the cleanest footwork, but the understanding is there, right, the
1:46:01
Speaker 1: understanding of leverage and what to do with your man.
1:46:03
Speaker 1: Sell this route inside, get your man to open up
1:46:07
Speaker 1: and buy into that deception and buy into that lie
1:46:11
Speaker 1: and then turn them cuts underneath him. That's actually not
1:46:15
Speaker 1: a horrible speed turn from Elliott. Again, good ball placement
1:46:18
Speaker 1: from Trubisky. But that's a nice job from Davidson, who
1:46:21
Speaker 1: offers you more of a wide receiver type skill set
1:46:24
Speaker 1: in a tight ends body. Do just consistently finds ways
1:46:28
Speaker 1: to get open again. Again, a good route stem this
1:46:37
Speaker 1: thing inside one more time's watch it go around the
1:46:42
Speaker 1: edge rusher get I'm going over. I'm going over psych
1:46:45
Speaker 1: foot in the ground. Good job from Zach Davidson. Also
1:46:52
Speaker 1: not a bad route from if we watch on the
1:46:54
Speaker 1: right side of the screen here mister tyrrel Shavers, watch
1:46:59
Speaker 1: him get verse feeling his man looks at him headfake
1:47:04
Speaker 1: like he's going over a couple extra steps or one
1:47:08
Speaker 1: or two, and then pop back out decent for him
1:47:11
Speaker 1: as well. That's a good job by Zach Davidson. And
1:47:13
Speaker 1: again that's the skill set that he offers more of. Right,
1:47:16
Speaker 1: he's going to offer, like I said, more of that
1:47:21
Speaker 1: wide receiver pass catcher skill set in a tight end's body.
1:47:26
Speaker 1: So that's where that conversation goes if you are quitting Morris,
1:47:28
Speaker 1: and I think that's really where so much of the
1:47:31
Speaker 1: roster projection conversation starts to get really interesting with wide
1:47:33
Speaker 1: receiver with tight end? How many wide receivers do they keep?
1:47:37
Speaker 1: How many tight ends do they keep? Is quitting Morris healthy? If?
1:47:39
Speaker 1: Because if quit Morris is healthy, I feel like they
1:47:41
Speaker 1: just keep three because you've got Kincaid, You've got Knocks,
1:47:44
Speaker 1: and then you've got Morris who gives you a little
1:47:46
Speaker 1: bit of everything, right, he can run, block and he
1:47:48
Speaker 1: can catch the football. If he's out, do you keep
1:47:53
Speaker 1: Davidson and m kitty? Davidson gives you some special teams work,
1:47:57
Speaker 1: so does McKitty, But then they also are more siloed.
1:47:59
Speaker 1: So what do you look at four and tight end three?
1:48:01
Speaker 1: Do you value more of the pass catcher or do
1:48:03
Speaker 1: you value more of the rum blocker who can also
1:48:05
Speaker 1: give you some past protection as we showed there. Who
1:48:09
Speaker 1: do you lean towards based on role? Based on skill sets?
1:48:13
Speaker 1: So depending on what they have eyed for that role.
1:48:15
Speaker 1: If Morris is out is where it becomes really interesting.
1:48:18
Speaker 1: And then even with the wide receiver conversation, if MBS
1:48:20
Speaker 1: is good to go for week one, do they still
1:48:25
Speaker 1: keep him? Is he cut able at this point? Do
1:48:27
Speaker 1: they replace him with tyrrel shavers? And they still only
1:48:30
Speaker 1: keep five? Do they keep MBS n Shavers or is
1:48:32
Speaker 1: an MBS and someone else and they keep six? What
1:48:35
Speaker 1: are they valuing? That's really what I wanted to get
1:48:38
Speaker 1: to in this episode with the risers and fallers and
1:48:41
Speaker 1: the roster projection conversation, just with what we've seen from Shavers, Javon, Solomon,
1:48:47
Speaker 1: Joe Andreesen, McKitty, Davidson, MBS. The other linebackers I think
1:48:54
Speaker 1: are kind of in that fallers conversation as well, just
1:48:56
Speaker 1: because Specter hasn't really stood out tremendously and then he's
1:48:59
Speaker 1: been banged up. Moro hasn't gotten on the field. Dori
1:49:02
Speaker 1: and I already think is a lock. Dion Jones has
1:49:04
Speaker 1: shown a couple flashes, but also kind of late and
1:49:08
Speaker 1: not great, and he's a far cry from prime Deon Jones,
1:49:11
Speaker 1: which is expected at this point. So I feel like
1:49:13
Speaker 1: the linebackers is Joey Andriesen is rising significantly. I feel
1:49:17
Speaker 1: like the rest of the linebackers are either plateauing or falling,
1:49:20
Speaker 1: which also helps his case. It really just creates this
1:49:23
Speaker 1: interesting conversation in terms of risers and followers and the
1:49:26
Speaker 1: roster projection, and that's really what I wanted to get
1:49:28
Speaker 1: into tonight with this episode. Instead of more just like
1:49:31
Speaker 1: here's who I think the qbs are going to be
1:49:32
Speaker 1: in the running backs and the receivers and the O line,
1:49:34
Speaker 1: and how many they're going to keep. I wanted to
1:49:36
Speaker 1: analyze multiple players who are at several positions that I
1:49:40
Speaker 1: think will be tipping points towards who makes the official
1:49:43
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1:49:46
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1:49:49
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1:49:52
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