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Online protection for kids · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck Douglas in The Power Hour on six to ten
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  Speaker 1: Double UTV and Monday Night edition eight two one nine
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  Speaker 1: eight eighty six my number eight two one WTV. And
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  Speaker 1: and you want to get in line, especially if you've
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  Speaker 1: had any instances where you've had to jump in and
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  Speaker 1: uh and save your kid from online gaming stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you thought was going as straight, because I want to
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  Speaker 1: get into that story. This young woman out of Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen years old and uh, she wasn't a child, she
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  Speaker 1: was not yet an adult. She was right there on
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  Speaker 1: the uh, the precipice of adulthood, but somehow, some way
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  Speaker 1: fell for whatever line of crap was being thrown at
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  Speaker 1: her in an online gaming thing. And this guy's thirty
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  Speaker 1: nine years old, lived in the Victoria Village area, apparently
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  Speaker 1: went there. This is what he's accused of doing to Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: picking her up, bringing her back here, spending at least
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  Speaker 1: a couple of nights I guess, with her at some
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  Speaker 1: short term cabin rent or something in Hocking Hills, and
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  Speaker 1: killing her. And I don't know that there's any doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's got a lawyer, Sam Schimansky's
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  Speaker 1: representing him, and from what I gleaned from the sound
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  Speaker 1: bite today I heard from Shamansky. He was pointing out,
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  Speaker 1: or at least attempting to point out, in a SoundBite,
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  Speaker 1: the difference between killing someone and being responsible for someone's death.
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  Speaker 1: So I believe that is the route they are going
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  Speaker 1: to take. He seemed to be fairly certain that if
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  Speaker 1: the charge was outright murder, that his client would be
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  Speaker 1: pleading not guilty. So much that has to come out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there was drug use involved, if
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  Speaker 1: perhaps he picked her up and they were using drugs
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  Speaker 1: in the Honking Hills and she died from an overdose,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe that's I have no idea. That's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of my gut reaction when I hear the difference between
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  Speaker 1: killing someone and being responsible for their death. I have
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  Speaker 1: talked before about the FBI putting out advisories on that
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  Speaker 1: roadblox And while I do what I can to, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's I'm not in control of the kids all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have them with me all the time. I
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  Speaker 1: can't be over their shoulder all the time. They'll go
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  Speaker 1: to the public library, they'll go to the recreation center.
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  Speaker 1: They have access to the online and they get on
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  Speaker 1: these video games, the Roadblocks especially, I guess was on
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  Speaker 1: the FBI's radar because there's a chat. Are you on that, Zach?
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  Speaker 1: Do you play that? I know you're a video game guy.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is really for kids. I mean I could
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  Speaker 2: see adults.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but see that's why there shouldn't be adults in there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if it's really for kids.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely made for kids. Even if you don't know
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  Speaker 2: video games and you look at it, you'll go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's the kids.
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  Speaker 1: What is the game? In a nutshell? What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? I mean the word Robox to me sounds
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  Speaker 1: like Tetris for the new generation.
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  Speaker 2: No, you play as a little character and you can
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  Speaker 2: make all these little different rooms that you go into,
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  Speaker 2: and like say, you can run and jump off big cliffs,
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  Speaker 2: or you can run around with other people and talk
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  Speaker 2: to people, and you could race people, or you could
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  Speaker 2: play paintballs.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're in those rooms that you go into,
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  Speaker 1: can anybody come in those rooms? Yep? And that's apparently
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  Speaker 1: where the danger is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I play with Charlie's he's grown out of
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  Speaker 2: it almost, but sometimes Charlie and I would play together
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  Speaker 2: and you could hear people talking.
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  Speaker 1: So FBI was warning that you are talking to someone
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  Speaker 1: in this game, and that there was some flaw in
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  Speaker 1: it that allowed people to take over the conversation. And
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  Speaker 1: while you still think you were talking to that person,
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  Speaker 1: you're actually talking to somebody else. And you've you know,
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  Speaker 1: come to know this person because you're meeting there and
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  Speaker 1: you play the game every day, and it's your friend,
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  Speaker 1: it's your buddy at your palace, and they go, hey,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you I'll meet you there and I'll pick
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  Speaker 1: you up, and and this is how bad things happen.
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  Speaker 1: We don't talk much about policing this stuff. We want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about policing social media Facebook access, Twitter, access,
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  Speaker 1: Instagram access, TikTok almost got hung out to dry. We
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  Speaker 1: don't talk much about policing these online video games. And
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  Speaker 1: they range from everything from something like that to you know,
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  Speaker 1: Call of Duty, grand theft, auto games of violence, and
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  Speaker 1: and I mean there's there's I'm sure there's all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. We don't hear about things that are kept
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  Speaker 1: under cover. Because the first rule about fight Club is
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  Speaker 1: you don't talk about fight Club. There are other games
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  Speaker 1: out there that we've never even heard of. So watch
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  Speaker 1: your children watch your children, and you know what if
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  Speaker 1: they are to be mad at you and hate you,
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  Speaker 1: call you names and tell you how unfair you are,
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  Speaker 1: and as long as they come home safely at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day. So what parents have forgotten that
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  Speaker 1: we have forgotten how to say? So what hate me?
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  Speaker 1: All you want? Tell everybody and their mama's how bad
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  Speaker 1: I am to you? While you're sleeping in that bed.
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  Speaker 1: I boty eating that food I bought in that warm
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  Speaker 1: house I provide for you in those clothes that I
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  Speaker 1: get you for school, and those shoes you shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: wearing because they're too damned expensive. Anyway, you remember how
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  Speaker 1: bad of a person I am because I'm keeping you
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  Speaker 1: safe for perverts and dirt balls that are integrating themselves
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  Speaker 1: into your little cyber world and you don't even know
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  Speaker 1: about it. I have never had anything as far as
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  Speaker 1: I know that I need to, that I need to
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  Speaker 1: police with any of the kids or grandkids. But I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what, the first time I smell something that's
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  Speaker 1: not right, I don't care how much they hate me.
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  Speaker 1: This is a whole new world we are in now
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  Speaker 1: where they don't have to they don't have to stalk
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  Speaker 1: them at school. They don't have to They don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be hiding in the bushes outside of your house
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  Speaker 1: at night. All they got to do is www their
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  Speaker 1: way right into your kids' lives. That's a scary thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you had any experiences with this, seriously, I mean
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  Speaker 1: share that kind of stuff because people need to know
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  Speaker 1: what's happened in order to know what to watch out for.
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  Speaker 1: Two one ninety eighty six E two one WTV and
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  Speaker 1: Rick You're on six ten WUTV and hight Hello.
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  Speaker 3: I've never done it or had experience or doing or game. However,
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  Speaker 3: several years ago, Glenn Beck had a segment on It
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  Speaker 3: was really chilling because he recounted what he went through
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  Speaker 3: with his son, and his son was being groomed and
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  Speaker 3: he he didn't know what was going There was sneaking
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of the night to play these games,
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  Speaker 3: and he was talking to somebody across the country. He
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  Speaker 3: ended up seeing I get well, you can only imagine
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  Speaker 3: the place he lives in security wise and everything. But
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  Speaker 3: he saw the red button on a different line in
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  Speaker 3: their bedroom and he thought somebody was in the house,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing it was his young son gaming with somebody
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  Speaker 3: across the country who had been grooming him, and he
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  Speaker 3: brought in all kinds of security and experts and they
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  Speaker 3: tracked guy down. But he recounted that he I mean
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  Speaker 3: it was chilling. Yeah, I can't imagine that's not being true.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to live in a bad neighborhood. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be poor or stupid or anything else. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it can come and get you anywhere. That's what the
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  Speaker 1: internet's all about. You can be everywhere, which is wonderful
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  Speaker 1: in some ways. It's terrible in other ways. You know
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  Speaker 1: how cool it is. Seriously, fifteen years ago, I remember
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  Speaker 1: I sat. I sat in my home office where I
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  Speaker 1: had my studio stuff set up and up. I just
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  Speaker 1: I was in awe of broadband internet, the speed. I
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  Speaker 1: was doing stuff for a radio station over in England
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  Speaker 1: from a bedroom in my house. I was doing car
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  Speaker 1: ads for a dealership somewhere in South America. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even remember where it was now from a bedroom in
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  Speaker 1: my house. That kind of stuff awesome, Awesome. You can
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  Speaker 1: go to work across the hall with a cup of
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  Speaker 1: coffee in your underwear if you want to and make
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  Speaker 1: a living, never have to go out and mess with
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  Speaker 1: traffic or anything. And that is wonderful, But that same
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  Speaker 1: access to all of those good things works in reverse
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  Speaker 1: and allows a lot of bad things into your life,
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  Speaker 1: into your house, into your kids circles. I have not
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  Speaker 1: heard much about the family of this young lady. Have
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  Speaker 1: you seen anything. Nobody seems to be talking much about
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  Speaker 1: her family, Zach, have you seen any.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking, I'm even trying to find I can't find anything.
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  Speaker 1: Really. They really have not talked about you know, mom
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  Speaker 1: or dad, or brothers or anything else. They've talked exclusively
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  Speaker 1: about her. And that kind of worries me too, because
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  Speaker 1: I don't want them to necessarily report on her as
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  Speaker 1: an adult without connection to family. Seventeen is not an adult,
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  Speaker 1: and we need to make sure that any information that
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  Speaker 1: we can put out there that makes her somebody's kid
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  Speaker 1: not only as a service to her family and to
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  Speaker 1: show of respect to her family that lost her, but
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  Speaker 1: also as an admonition to people that have never heard
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  Speaker 1: of her don't have any idea what the story is about.
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  Speaker 1: When you start thinking of someone as someone's little girl,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to just some female name in the news,
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  Speaker 1: it gets a little more personal. But I have not
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  Speaker 1: seen any including the you know, national coverage, any of
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  Speaker 1: it that's talked about her family also sad when I
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  Speaker 1: think about national coverage here, Columbus Ohio got national coverage
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  Speaker 1: because this guy comes from Illinois and you know it
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  Speaker 1: is accused of killing his ex wife and her new
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  Speaker 1: husband or or current husband. I'll put it that way,
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  Speaker 1: So we hit national news for that. Now we get
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  Speaker 1: national news for this. I would venture to say that
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  Speaker 1: people around the country who never even hear of Columbus
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  Speaker 1: Ohio are not going to be really fond of Columbus
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  Speaker 1: Ohio if this kind of thing keeps up. So the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate point I'm trying to make is just watch out
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  Speaker 1: for your kids. I know it's in stylish and people
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  Speaker 1: want to call you a helicopter parent who cares watch
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  Speaker 1: out for your kids. Watch out for other people's kids too.
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  Speaker 1: Be that helicopter parent, Be the neighborhood helicopter parent if
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  Speaker 1: you have to. It worked for a long time for
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  Speaker 1: my mom and for the moms that came before her.
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  Speaker 1: It worked. I told you many times I couldn't even
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  Speaker 1: walk home from elementary school the wrong way. Mom had
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  Speaker 1: a route. This is the route I was to take
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  Speaker 1: home if I took any shortcuts, went through any alleys whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I came home. She was waiting on me because she
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  Speaker 1: had the Mom network. Man, they would tell on you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they get on the front rotheran Mary,
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  Speaker 1: he just went through that alley you told him stay
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  Speaker 1: out of And Mom standing on the back porch when
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  Speaker 1: I get home, waiting on me to come through the backyard.
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  Speaker 1: We were better then dry by shootings weren't in the news.
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  Speaker 1: Were people using heroin, Yes they were, but they weren't everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Were there prostitutes on the street, yes, but there was
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  Speaker 1: an human trafficking divisions of the government because of so
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  Speaker 1: many neighborhood helicopter parents did us a lot of good.
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  Speaker 1: But everybody started, you know, not getting involved, minding their
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  Speaker 1: own business, doing their own thing. Blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: See where we are. Guy was talking about the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the yard that shot at the police outside of
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  Speaker 1: the substation. My queen was showing me another video. She's
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  Speaker 1: got some friend are quit somebody she knows. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know how she knows of they live with there
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  Speaker 1: of harmon Avenue at Greenlawn, I think in that trailer
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  Speaker 1: park and they put a video up on Facebook last
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  Speaker 1: night from their security camera. Somebody just pulls up in
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  Speaker 1: front of their house. Bang bang bang bang bang bang.
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  Speaker 1: Six shots fired into the air, not even firing in anybody,
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  Speaker 1: just shoot the gut into the air and then took off.
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  Speaker 1: See that wasn't happening when helicopter parents were out there,
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  Speaker 1: when neighborhood helicopter. Are you a helicopter parent?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I didn't think I was gonna be. But
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  Speaker 2: a really gets no when he's online, I know who
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  Speaker 2: he's talking to.
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  Speaker 1: Good?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Like he has a phone, there's his mom has
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  Speaker 2: an extra phone, yes, and he had his He has
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  Speaker 2: an iPad and he he got caught once looking at thanks.
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  Speaker 2: He shouldn't. But as a twelve year old boy, you
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  Speaker 2: might expect boobies.
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  Speaker 1: Was he looking for movies? There you go, he's twelve,
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  Speaker 1: that's normally.
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  Speaker 2: It was normal. Other than that, there's nothing that he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't do that I'm not aware of. Good, same thing
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  Speaker 2: with his mom. There's just it just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: I seriously, I think you should get like a parental
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  Speaker 1: discount for spywear to install on your kids trunk devices. Really, really,
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  Speaker 1: there's I I'm sneaky, and the Queen is sneakier. So
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  Speaker 1: whatever we need to find out we find out. Does
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  Speaker 1: that mean we're perfect at this? Absolutely not, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I'm concerned. Why it worries me. Could happen to
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  Speaker 1: any of us anytime, because as sneaky as we think
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  Speaker 1: we are, they are always sneakier. All right, anyway, Watch
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  Speaker 1: your kids, Love your kids,