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Dogman Evidence - What Lurks in the Shadows with D.A. Roberts · The Cryptid Huntress

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Hi, Well, hey everybody, welcome in to a Glitch in the Matrix.
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I'm your host, Jessica Jones, the Crypton Huntress. I have a
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fantastic show lined up for us today. Once again, I have my friend
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Da Robert's here with us today. We're going to talk about dog Man.
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And we have some very interesting photos that were sent to me this week,
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and we're gonna we're gonna look at those and discuss them today because they are
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allegedly reportedly from a trail cam okay, and and I was told they are
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a dog Man picture. So we're gonna analyze those just a little bit and
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give our two cents on these pictures. And it's going to be a great
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time today. So, uh you guys, I'm heading out to Las Vegas,
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Nevada this weekend. I'm going to be at the Golden Nugget broadcasting live
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and Sunday out in Las Vegas. So you guys come out and join us.
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It's a fan party. We've got a big VAP party going on Friday
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night, y'all. There's actually a dress code to this stuff. I haven't
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done a dress code so long. I can't wear my sneakers and my tank
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ops. I guess I don't know. It's gonna be. It's gonna be
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fun though, no matter what, I hope Dave doesn't try to wear his
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wife beater shirt whatever you call those things. You know, I'm kidding.
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Well, yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a lot of fun,
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y'all. Please tune in this weekend. I'm gonna be doing I'm not
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It's gonna be awesome. Also, I'm flying out to Grafton, Illinois on
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do that. And then, of course we've got the second Annual Paranormal Roundtable,
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Dogman and Cryptoconference coming up. That's Labor Day weekend. That's our friend
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Josh Turner is throwing that. And I have Da Roberts, who is a
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part of the International dog Man Project here in the studio with me today.
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We're both gonna be speaking at that event. We'll be there live and direct,
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so y'all come join us there. It's going to be a great time.
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It's going to probably be packed. I'm assuming I had a lot of
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people saying, there come into that. All right, well, let's just
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go ahead and get on with this show today. I have D Robert's here
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with me. He is a cryptozoologist, author, podcaster, and field investigator.
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Born in Lebanon, Missouri, he lives in Springfield, Missouri with his
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wife and sons. For most of his career, he served in his community
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in law enforcement. He's been investigating in researching cryptids for more than four decades.
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He is with the International dog Man Project. He's been featured on numerous
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podcasts and shows for his writing encrypted research. My goodness, he has some
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amazing book series. I'm gonna let Da tell us all about that today,
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so please help me. Welcome to the show, my friend Da Roberts.
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Hey day, Hey, I'm excellent. It's awesome. I just had all
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these pictures of dog men sent to me this week, and I had to
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bring an expert on. Okay, I don't know about an expert. I'm
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a friend believer. There are no experts in this field, but I'll be
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happy to share what I know absolutely day. I said that jokingly because I
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know we're none of us are first on this stuff, but but we do.
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We do talk about it a lot more than most people, I think,
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And so I know that you've seen your fair share of Dogman pictures and
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have had your own experiences with Dogman. Well tell me, tell me about
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your experience with Dogman. Let's just go with Joe Bald, for instance.
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Tell our audience about that. Joe Bald Recreation Area is an abandoned camp ground
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down by Kimberling City, Missouri, on the shores of Table Rock Lake.
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It was shut down by the Army Corps of Engineers and somewhere around the year
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nineteen ninety nine. And when I started digging into why, I found a
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number of missing people had to do with the park associated with it. But
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later when I went back to to like make printed copies of those those reports
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online, they were gone. I know officers from years of training and people
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that I know that worked in other counties because I was a county deputy for
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of course for quite a while. I know some of the deputies that patrol
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down there, and there's a lot of weird stories from that area, including
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one officer who something slammed its hands down and they, as I said,
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hands on the back deck of his car. In the Joe Bald Campground.
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It's all completely overgrown. You can drive back in there. The roads are
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still there, but you can see where although the old camp Grahams campsites are
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completely overgrown. But it's it's a creepy place even in the daylight. Well,
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the reason I was down there is I chose to use the location as
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one of the settings for my book to Lakeview Man. And since that book
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I was still writing it at the time, we decided to go down to
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Joe Bald one night and shoot a promo video. And it was myself,
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my wife, my best friend Steveman wrote us and his wife Rachel, and
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we all hopped in my van and went down there, and the girls stayed
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in the van and me and Steve hopped out and shot a little about two
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minutes of video foot It's just nothing big. It's just me talking about the
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park and shine a flashlight. And if I remember correctly, it was nine
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ten o'clock at night. It was fair, it was well good dark um
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and it was in the fall of the year, so you can hear all
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the all the crickets and stuff in the background. You can hear all the
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normal few forests and forest noises and so we shot the little little footage and
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talked about They talked about the area, said it was really kind of a
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neat area, even though it had a creepy reputation, and we didn't think
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anything more of it. We got in the van and we went went into
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Branson, Missouri, and had dinner and had a good time. Well a
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couple of days later, I go to upload the video and I noticed that
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behind me when he's when Steve was filming me, you could see eyeshine in
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quite a few places that weird in and of itself. I mean, it's
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the Missouri woods in the middle of the night. It's you know, it's
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gonna be eyeshine. Have you ever spent any time in the woods and you're
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shining the flashlight, You're gonna get eyeshine. But I kind of high off
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around, which again isn't necessarily a red flag because raccoons and possums climb trees,
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and you know, you know, there are owls, you can find
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the trees, not a big red flag. So we we on the YouTube
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channel and it's still up. You could still watch the video. And didn't
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think anything more of it. It was just a promo video. For my
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book. About a year and a half later, we were showing the videos
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as a promo again for a book on a show I did called The Nightmare
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Hunter. And while we're showing it, one of the guys in the audience,
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guy named Thomas Whitten, he goes, Hey, I don't want to
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freak you out, but something's moving behind you with the wood and I'm like,
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no, I've watched one hundred times. There's nothing moving back there.
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And he goes, no, I'm telling you, if you look at the
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section where you're shining your flashlight over that little concrete bridge, there's something back
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there. And so I watched it and I thought, well, maybe,
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So I sent it to a couple of buddies of mine because it's a shot
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on a cell phone. We weren't out there trying to shoot the Patterson Gimblin
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film. We were just out there shooting a promo video for a book,
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And so I sent it to a couple of buddies of mine, Adam and
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Josh, and they kind of dug into it and started enhancing the video and
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pulling stills, and what they found has kind of become kind of legendary,
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at least on our channel. Um, they've found what looks to be a
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dog man leaning up from behind a tree, and you can you can see
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it move on the video, and the stills are pretty pretty wild. Um
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they're not there again, they're they're a little grainy because it was shot on
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a cell phone. Had we been looking for something like that, would have
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been down there with a much better camera. But it was just shot on
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a cell phone. And I said, I showed the video to MK Davis,
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who did all the video analysis of the Patterson Giblin footage, and MK's
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like, yeah, there's definitely something moving back there, but this video is
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so grainy it's impossible to get any detail out of it. But all I
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can say is something is definitely moving behind that tree. Yeah. So we
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go back out there. Yeah you think a Union remote viewing of Joe Ball.
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Yeah, we did a whole show on that. We sure did.
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I know, I know all about this thing. So we go back down
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there and we find the exact tree. We match it up by the frame.
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We find the exact tree. There are no bushes behind this tree that
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it could have been. You know, there was no breeze that night,
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it was it was still and we measured the spot where the head came out,
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and it would have been about nine nine and a half feet off the
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ground. I could barely reach the spot on my tiptopes. Now, wow,
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that's especially right. There are black bears in Missouri, but they don't
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get that big h And it could have been it could have been, you
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know something, and that had a climbed to the tree. But in one
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still you can see its head and its arm, and they're far enough apart
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that there's no way that's the arm of a bear holding onto the tree,
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because it would have been close to the head. There was a pretty good
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distance of a few feet between the head and the head and then the arm
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and one of you can actually kind of see the shoulder. So, you
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know, we ket this on film, and I sent it to Nick Valente,
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who's a dog man investigator, and he had it for a couple of
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days and he calls me. He's like, dude, I don't I don't
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know where you got this footage, but this is the like the best example
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of a class three type three dog man I've ever seen. And he goes
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and judging by the eyeshine, that wasn't the only one there so, so
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flash forward about a year and a half after that, I talked, I'm
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talking to a guy at an event and he starts telling me. He says
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like, he's like, you know about dog Man, right, And I
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said, yeah, a little bit, and uh, he says. He
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says, like, I'm gonna tell you a story that I don't I don't
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know what this is, but I think it might be a dog man.
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I said, okay. He goes so and he plays music, he says.
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I was down playing music with some friends, he said, and I
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left kind of late, and I was driving and I kept noticing something darting
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through the trees and like behind the occasional house as I'm driving down the road,
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and he was driving out like a twenty fourteen Prius or something like that.
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It was a Prius. I just don't know exactly why. Year and
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he said, and suddenly this thing comes racing out onto the road. He
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said, At first, I just thought it was a big black dog until
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it stood up on its hind legs and attack to the front end of the
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car. He says, I felt like it was trying to shove me off
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the ode, and I said, what'd you do? He goes, well,
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he did about two thousand dollars worth the damage to the front of the
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car. But I got away, wow, and I said, I said,
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so, I had him described it to me. I said, yeah,
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that sounds like it sounds very much like a dog man. He says,
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it looks like it was probably six and a half maybe seven feet tall
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and sign legs. It wasn't huge, he said, but it's scared to
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hell him he's one. Brady was just saying werewolf And I said, well,
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where was this at? And he goes, do you know where the
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old Joe Bald camp around is done? Like Kimberly Kimberly City. I'm like,
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who is it? Yeah? U so yeah. We've got that video
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up on our on our website and on our on our YouTube page, and
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it gets talked about a lot. But I and I know, I don't
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present it as like the Patterson Ghibling smoking gun footage because it's not that clear.
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And you know, you know, some people say I don't to know,
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and other people say I don't think it's a dog man. But you
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know, I've got people like M. K. Davis that said, yes,
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there's something moving back there. We can't say with one hundred percent certainty
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that it's a dog man. I personally feel like that what it is,
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especially when you relate it to the other siding just a mile or so round
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the road. I think it was. I think we captured a dog man
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on footage, and it's pretty terrifying. And then back into twenty twenty one,
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Nick Valente and I went to LBL together and actually saw one broad daylight.
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Oh, okay, tell me about that. So I want the audience
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to get an idea of kind of what a real experience with a dog man
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is like. You know, there are two very famous incidents in LBL that
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were one supposedly a family of four was murdered by a dog man back in
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nineteen eighty two. And before that, in nineteen seventy four, a guy
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that worked for the Department of Wildlife Fisheries UH saw two people attacked and killed
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from from a boat. He was in a boat and they were on the
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shore. They were emerging from their tent. He was trying to yell at
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them to tell them that there's something behind you, and it killed them.
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And both of these have been very very much swept under the rug. But
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that's another another story entirely. But yeah, we went that area is called
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Demember's Bay and the camp ground with a family of four was killed is on
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the same road. So we're driving down that road. We had just left
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Demember's Bay and we were looking at some of the old primitive campsites because down
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in LBL they don't have campsites where you get to like plug in your RV
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and run water and all that. They have primitive campsites. That's basically if
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you're not familiar with camping primitive campsites is you bring it with you or you
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don't have it right, And there's no bathrooms there, no, no,
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you've got you gotta give your own toilet or have one in your camp er.
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Yeah, take a shuttle. Make sure you bring your own toilet paper
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because not all the plants are friendly. But these primitive campsites are just set
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back in the woods off the roads and they'll have a little trail where a
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car can get down to them. And some of them I wouldn't try to
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get too without a four wheel drive. Well, Nick's got out an H
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three Hummer and we're driving very slowly down. Joe Bald doesn't a tank.
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I drink he's got he probably has one, knowing nick. I mean that
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the guys on the back, Yeah, he's he's yeah, he's he's really
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loaded for bear. But he he's got this this age three and it'll go
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anywhere. I mean, we were going through some really wild places with that
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thing. But we're driving down this road coming back from De Mumber's Bay and
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there's a section of road that crosses a narrow concrete bridge over a little slough,
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and we had just crossed that. We were maybe one hundred yards beyond
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the bridge, and we're, like I said, we were driving very slow,
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like four or five miles an hour down this road. And he was
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looking on the left side, and I was looking on the right side.
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And what we were looking for is these uh, primitive campsites, and one
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we were you know, we were looking to see if we could find one
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that looked like it had either been abandoned or was destroyed, or looking for
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one that we could go back and look for tracks because the woods are really
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thick there and at these cleared areas, these campsites, where you're going to
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get your best shot of catching a track. So we're driving slow, we're
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looking for these these uh the these uh primitive campsites. And I'm kind of
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panning the trees as I'm as I'm looking around, and I saw something,
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but it didn't really click because it didn't click what I was looking at.
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I knew i'd seen something, but I'd panned passed it and it because it
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wasn't moving, and it turned its head and was watching me as the as
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we were slowly moving by it, and it was at a range of maybe
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thirty yards. It was close. And when it turned its head, I
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keyed it on that movement, looked right back at it. And of course
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at this point, I'm like punching Nick in the arm. I'm like,
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and he slams on the brakes and looks over and I got a good look
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at it. I mean, it's not like I saw it for a couple
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of seconds. I saw it for fifteen to twenty seconds, and Nick saw
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it for at least ten seconds. And this thing, it was completely black,
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had a head like a head like a wolf with the pointed ears,
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but the snout was whiter and blunter, more like a like a mastiff instead
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of instead of long and slender like a wolf. It had a blunter or
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snout, completely black with the black pushy tail, And when it realized we
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were looking at us, it turned and headed for a little ravine that dropped
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down toward the lake, and it kind of did an odd gait. It
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wasn't kind of a bounding run. It went from side side side and then
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down the ravine. It didn't go in a straight line. It just kind
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of d and then gone. So, like idiots, we jump out and
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go running after it, and we can hear it crashing off through the trees
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and we're looking down that ravine and're like, yeah, we're not getting down
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in that, not without ropes and gear. And he says, yeah,
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I don't think we're gonna I don't think we're gonna be chasing it. Of
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course, neither of us were armed at the time either. We're like,
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yeah, probably not a great idea to be chasing it. So I go
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back to the exact tree where I saw this, and when I saw it,
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it had its hand against the tree, like it was just kind of
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leaning against the tree watching us go by, and I could easily reach the
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spot where its hand was where I estimated its hand was, So you know,
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I have no no, no doubt that this thing was only like six
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six and a half feet tall. I'm five ten, and I could the
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hand where the hand was at was just a little a little above where it
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would be comfortable for me to lean against the tree, because you know,
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if you lean against the tree, you generally put you put your arm or
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hand against it about my shoulder, and that's where that was. It was
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kind of just like about just straight up from its shoulder, and it was
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a little above where I would have normally put it. So I estimated it
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to between six and a half six to six and a half feet tall.
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It wasn't huge, but it was incredibly fast and completely block and it was
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broad daylight. It was like it was like ten thirty eleven o'clock in the
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morning, broad daylight. That is interesting, broad daylight. Now I have
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actually seen a video. There's a video that someone had posted. It reportedly
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came from the Department of Homeland Security and uh, and this was a dog
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man video. I don't know if it went viral or not. I know
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I had it posted on my social media. But it's a dog it's I
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was old. It was real. It's a dog man jumping. Uh.
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It pounces back and forth, just like you, just like you described as
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all black, and it had a video I'd like to see I do.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna send that to you. I will send it to
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you on my social media right after the show today, and I'm going to
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post it on my social media throughout the show so the audience can see it
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as well. And uh, I don't freaking awesome. Wow. Yeah,
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it jumps really high. It's it's not it's not human, but it's definitely
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it goes from four legs to two legs by petal. When I saw the
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one, the one I saw it was always on two legs. I never
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saw it dropped a four but that weird bounding run and it was fast.
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I've got a video of it. And uh, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
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let everybody see that. There's a gentleman that I follow on social media.
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His name it used to be Informing Masses and and I'll give him a shout
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out because he does send me. He sends me some, He private messages
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me some a lot of his post because they're so interesting. He gets some
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good stuff and h So yeah, I will be sure to post that because
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I think it's something everybody needs to see for sure. And speaking of that
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type of stuff of people needing to see things, well, I do have
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some pictures that someone sitting to me day, and you know, and there's
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such a wide variety of descriptions of dog man. We have everything from the
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typical German shepherd head with a humanoid body or a human body like a man's
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body too, I mean German shepherds, to like a werewolf looking thing.
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I have this that I flashed up on the screen while you were talking about
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the Type three that you encountered. I was just about to ask you about
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that graphic because if you look at the top row of the Type three variant
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one and Variant three, I don't think those are actually dog man. I
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think those are probably misidentified. Gugway. I had to have to agree with
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you on that, because they look far more like a mandrel or a baboons
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than they do adult a sasquatch. Yeah, perhaps like a mutated sasquatch or
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a sasasquatched some type. And the Type three variant two to me looks like
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like a darker version of the canine variant two the hyena. So I think
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the top rope could probably be eliminated completely completely because I think basically two of
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those are are Gugway and the other is just a dark colored hyena variant.
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Wow. Very cool, That's just my opinion. Yeah, I would agree
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with that from the get go, the type two variant three and the one
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beside of the type three variant two. Um. I have thought that those
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looked like Gugway myself or a Genosqua or something like that. So um,
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which I don't think those are considered dogmen obviously, so um. But yeah,
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the hyena type, I've been hearing more reports of hyena looking dogmen.
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I guess you could say, even though a hyena is not even a class
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of dog breed or right, isn't a hyena more related? I think it's
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related. I think it's closely related to a cat. Although there was a
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during the during the the Megafauna Days, there was a specie he's of hyaena
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native been North America. Oh wow, Well, and the beasts of Jev
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Houdon over in France. Uh that was reported as looking like a hyena as
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well. Um, and I think I was up to three hundred people,
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was it actually Yeah? Yes, I did a remote viewing target of that
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a little while back, and it seemed to be a hyaena type dog man,
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okay, is what I was Either I was picking up something, I
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was picking up hyena. It could have just been a mutated hyena um because
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you know, back in the day, like even the Romans would the Kings
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would have zoos of animals basically, and a lot of the kings and the
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ryalty that would come through Europe would have zoos of these exotic African animals and
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yeah, menageries, and they would also feed people to those animals for sport,
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for entertainment, and and who's to say those hyenas didn't escape or something.
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You know, look at all the animals and the Romans kept just for
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the coliseum exactly. That's that's that's basically what I think these these hyenas could
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have been for, been used for, or were they originated from. But
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it was it was something between a hyena or a hyena type dog man,
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is what what I was picking up on there. So interesting stuff, But
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the point is all these dog men look different, okay, And so these
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pictures that I got, like I just showed you these right before the show
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went live today and you and I both are we have our questions about these
23:33
because they're very interesting and they're pretty unique. So, without further ado,
23:37
I'm gonna go ahead and show I have four pictures here, and these are
23:41
something that someone sent to me. Uh, I want, I want everyone's
23:45
opinion, everybody in chat, y'all, let us know what you think.
23:47
Okay, So this is the first picture. This is. I don't have
23:48
a ton of information on these. I just know that they're from a video
23:52
of a from like a trail camera. And uh and these are the steel
23:56
shots. And there's just a couple of these steel shots that I that I
23:59
have of that I have in my possession. Now, this is you can
24:03
see a face in the middle, slowly kind of approaching towards the camera.
24:07
You can't see it very well here, but the next picture you can see
24:11
its face. Okay, Now, this looks like a human to me,
24:15
it looks very humanoid. It looks very like a human face, but with
24:22
very pointy features, almost like a road almost like it's got a ridge down
24:26
the middle of its forehead. Yeah, it looks it looks like a devil
24:30
or a demon or something to me. But from what I've been told they
24:34
this is reportedly a dog, a type of dog man, but it's one
24:38
that I've never seen. Well, I've seen videos similar to this, and
24:42
here's another shot where its head is turned to the side and it has a
24:45
pointy ear. You can see its ear. This one looks more and more
24:48
bat like. It looks like thank you da. I was actually going to
24:53
compare this to the bat squatch and to the drawing that our friend Barton Nunnily
24:59
drew of the alleged beast of LBL okay um, because it does now the
25:06
last picture, I think it's a side view. It looks like it looks
25:08
like a mole or something like a mole rat or something from the side.
25:12
It's But here here's the picture that Barton. I didn't know Barton when I
25:17
first saw this picture, but this is a picture that he drew from a
25:21
description from this is another allegedly reportedly from the survivor of the LBL attacks,
25:27
which I you can either believe that part or not. I'm not sure.
25:32
Some people say that there was not a survivor of that attack. Debate time,
25:37
that's a debate for another time. Well, I've already debated it I
25:40
did a remote viewing target of that and I only came up with four.
25:41
I only detected four people in the environment. So, um, so it's
25:45
up to everybody as to what your opinion is. But well, hey,
25:49
I'm gonna get that debate one day. Yeah, I'll share my opinion on
25:55
that at some point. Yeah. Well that's another debate entirely. Yes,
26:00
look like six six Yeah so that wasn't that was but but okay, So
26:08
the point being is that the ears look very similar to this picture, oh
26:12
whatever. This this creature is that we're looking at right here is different.
26:18
The nose is very different. This looks more like a witch, like a
26:19
you know, like a wicked witch has like a long pointy nose or or
26:22
something out of a some kind of like Harry Potter movie or something. You
26:29
know. Um, it just looks very bat like, almost, like I
26:34
said, or like a rodent. And uh and I've da I've seen two
26:37
other videos that are similar to that creature right there. One of the videos
26:42
was kind of recent, and there was it was hard for me to buy
26:47
these both of these videos because they look so human like and they didn't look
26:49
like any kind of dogman. They were being labeled dogman, but they were
26:53
in two all the videos. The things are sniffing, they're sniffing the ground
26:57
and they're sniffing the air, and uh, it just looks like a gigantic
27:02
human rat. Here's basically one possibility, and I'm not I'm not throwing I'm
27:07
just throwing this out there as a possibility, not as a solution that I'm
27:11
not gonna I'm not gonna jump behind this and go this is it, that
27:12
is what it has to be, blahblah blah. Totally just Uh, we've
27:17
all heard rumors and you've even detected this with remote viewing that people that the
27:22
government has experimented with these things. I don't. I don't believe that the
27:27
government created them in a lab, but they're not certainly not above experimenting on
27:30
something because Sinocephali dogman sighting go back centuries, go back to the Roman and
27:37
Greeks, Greek Roman and Greek empires. So if the government is experimenting on
27:42
this, you know, the more human features could be a hybrid of some
27:48
sort. Absolutely, there there are a whole lot of different things that this
27:52
could be. Um, I did pick up. I do pick up quite
27:56
often when i'm remote viewing something that has to do with the Dogman, usually
27:59
underground facilities. I believe Joe bald RecA Area is one of those places where
28:03
I detected a laboratory or some sort of It was an underground facility where they
28:08
were doing experiments with chimeras in that in that lab down there, and I
28:14
got a whole lot of data on that. Well, since i've I've didn't.
28:18
I did that show with you guys, and I talked about my remote
28:21
viewing data. Um, I have some people that you know, the Secret
28:23
Space program is a thing, and uh and I'm actually gonna be speaking at
28:26
a conference with some of the some big players in that secret space program this
28:32
next week. I'm gonna be in Missouri this Sunday. Actually, I'm gonna
28:36
be right there near you. Daum, I am, I am. I'm
28:38
speaking at the Journey to Truth conference. It's in Grafton, Illinois, but
28:41
I'm flying into Saint Louis, Okay, So it's just right, yeah,
28:48
yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be out there in Saint Louis. Yeah.
28:52
Well, uh so the guys, I had Tyler and Aaron on my spaced
28:57
out radio on I guess that was Saturday night this past Saturday, and uh,
29:02
and I was talking to them about the secret Space program and they were
29:06
talking about the underground facilities UM in that area in Missouri because they live in
29:11
Saint Louis. They're both from there, Okay and uh and they're there.
29:15
They have a lot of knowledge on this this program. So it kind of
29:17
lined up with what my data was with that area at Joe Bald. Maybe
29:22
there's a connection a hot spot for weird activity. It really does. I
29:26
think it is too well. Oh, I've done all sorts of research on
29:32
the cryptids out there too. Da from the thunderbirds that you guys have in
29:36
that area, there is the Ozark pallor yeah, dogman reports. Um,
29:44
there's something that there's some animal I can't it's called the Edinfield Monster, I
29:47
think, and it has three legs and gray fur and it's just a weird
29:52
y'all have some weird stuff going on out there, super person. There's one
29:56
they call the Vampire Beast of the Ozark. As far as I know,
30:00
it hasn't been seen in a long time. The last report that I know
30:06
of the Vampire Beast is from down in in Douglas County down near Ava,
30:10
Missouri, and it was supposedly this weird looking like quadrupedal batlike thing that would
30:17
come down and drain the blood from farm animals like a choop acabra. Well,
30:22
the History Channel did did a one of the monster quests was on the
30:26
Vampire Beast, and apparently it's been seen in other places besides the Ozarks.
30:30
But the only accounts I was able to track down we're hearing the ozarks.
30:34
Oh my gosh, Wow, that's that's really cool. That's super cool.
30:38
Uh, there's there's allegedly reportedly um bigfoot sasquatch at the at the place where
30:45
we're staying out in uh in Grafton. Lots of sasquatch reports out there.
30:51
So I was told to bring my hiking boots, so I'm gonna be we're
30:53
gonna be going out at night and stuff. Uh checking checking that out.
30:57
Watching copperheads because they blend in you can step on one for you even see
31:03
it. Copper hoods in the in the Midwest, unless you know what you're
31:06
looking for, you can walk right up on one because they blend into the
31:10
leaves. So well, even if you know what you're looking for. It's
31:12
hard to see those things. We have them here in Georgia too, So
31:15
no flip flops, is what you're saying. No, I would not recommend.
31:19
I would recommend boats if you're going out in the woods. Oh gosh,
31:22
I gotta listen. I'm packing for like over a week, so going
31:26
from Vegas to Illinois. I don't know if I'm gonna have room for for
31:29
waiters and all that kind of stuff. But I don't know about were wait
31:32
snake chaps, snake chaps, chaps chaps. Oh my gosh. Yes.
31:40
Anyways, um, yeah, well, let's get back. Let's get back
31:44
to these weird cameras too, because we've got the government potentially experimenting on let's
31:52
just say humans. Okay, let's say that they're injecting animal DNA into humans.
31:57
That's not completely out of the realm of possability. Da Um, Well,
32:00
we know it's been tried. We know for a fact it's been tried.
32:05
During World War Two, the Russians tried it. They tried to cross
32:08
breed humans with with with both chimpanzees and guerrillas in the attempt to try to
32:15
build a super soldier army. It didn't work. The Germans tried it as
32:19
well, supposedly trying to go trying to Jean splice humans with other animals,
32:23
including uh wolves and even sharks. I heard one sharks human wait, human
32:31
shark hirius. That is now basically the the ultimate you know, underwater asset
32:37
to be able to swim up to an enemy sub and open the hatch and
32:40
flood it or you know, you know what, what what better navy seal
32:45
could you possibly get them? One that could breathe water and have gigantic long
32:51
rows of teeth and all that kind of stuff. I mean, wow,
32:54
okay, well that that just threw me off because I wasn't expecting that.
32:57
I've never heard of that one actually use that use that theory in one of
33:01
my books. Wow, that's that is That's wild. That's super wild.
33:07
But okay, so I was asked to look into that the whole uh the
33:12
deaths of the two people out in East Tennessee. I'm oh, by the
33:15
way, da, I get to go do an on site investigation in East
33:20
Tennessee on a property next month. A family I think there's over three hundred
33:24
acres that they live on in the mountains. They have a cave on their
33:28
property, and uh, and I'm going in with a we're I don't know
33:31
if we're going to be filming this world. Maybe maybe not. I think
33:34
it's just a private investigation. If they're property. But they have sasquash,
33:37
they have things that come and beat on their house at night, and uh,
33:40
dog man reports and stuff around. Now they've got caves in the area,
33:44
be very careful because I had I know you and I've discussed this before,
33:47
but I don't know if you've mentioned it to your viewers that if you
33:50
if you take a map of the missing for one one major clusters and aligned
33:54
map with a map of major cave systems in the US, they match perfectly.
34:00
Well. I believe the person who lives there on this property, she
34:04
said, the cave is about I think it's like twenty to thirty feet from
34:07
her back porch. That's her house. That's a little close for comfort because
34:13
the caves in the eastern Kentucky part along the Appalachians are part of the Mammoth
34:20
Cave network, and we know those extend from from Tennessee to Maine. Yeah,
34:24
well, she has a lot of normal activity. Oh, I think
34:29
she told I heard her talking on a podcast actually to the guys, all
34:32
the people that were going out there with um, she was on a podcast
34:36
and I think it was Cryptic Warfare and as farah from conversation cabin okay,
34:42
and uh, she's it's her house and she's I'm actually gonna be on her
34:45
podcasts this week. So but she has a she I think she went out
34:52
and put a recorder out in that cave right after they moved in. They
34:54
bought that little cabin and uh, and there were voices on it. I
34:59
mean, she if she thinks or she says that there's like Sasquatch having conversations
35:04
and voices in the caves and all the stuff. So it's going to make
35:07
for a very interesting weekend. I would love to hear that. I really
35:12
would. Yeah, me too, send me a link because I want to
35:15
be in the in the chat. I will, Well, I think it's
35:19
I think it's a podcast. But we're going to be recording that today,
35:22
so for sure. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And then we have an
35:27
investigation in June, so that's gonna be that's gonna be awesome. So I'll
35:31
keep everybody person Okay, But so so East Tennessee, that is a area
35:36
of super high strangeness DA. That's where they have the Oakridge Labs, where
35:40
they may or may not have a large hydrink collider. Okay, it's where
35:45
they worked on I believe it's the Manhattan Project. They built atomic bombs here
35:51
and things like that. Um. But they've also done a lot of I
35:54
believe they've done experimenting there with um. Lord knows what um there was.
36:01
I've referred to this several times where someone sent me the Israeli news video clip
36:07
of the zombie bear. You know. I had remote viewed what happened to
36:10
Amber and Tony, the two people that were killed by a pack a wild
36:14
dogs separate times on the same road wild dogs wild the Paca wild dogs.
36:19
And when I remote viewed both of those cases, and in both cases,
36:22
I saw one large, gigantic, hairy animal that did it. And it
36:27
looked like a bear, but it was not a bear, and it could
36:31
well it could have been. So all I could hear and all I kept
36:35
hearing when I was remote viewing was zombie bear, zombie bear or zombie beer
36:39
and uh and so William Nighthawk and I discussed the the Lakota legend of what
36:45
they called the bear man, and the to him and I talked about it,
36:49
and he thinks that the bear man might have been the Lakota's attempt to
36:52
explain the gugway. I think that. I think it's right up the alley
36:57
right there, absolutely, because it was not a bear, but it looked
37:00
like it looked like a bear. But it was all I could. All
37:04
I was hearing was zombie bear and I was seeing what looked like a bear,
37:07
but it was not a bear. So um. I actually went on
37:10
live on my show and reported that I had seen a zombie bear. And
37:14
I was so embarrassed because I felt really bad for saying that because I sounded
37:17
kind of weird. You know, it sounded weird to me to say that,
37:22
say what you see, I saw it. I said what I saw.
37:25
That's right. And just because that's how you interpreted it doesn't necessarily mean
37:30
it's not something else. But that's how you interpret it. That's how you
37:34
see it. And I would rather hear the unedited this is what I saw,
37:37
than go, well, you know, I think this is what it
37:40
might have been. Oh no, tell me exactly what you saw and we'll
37:44
work it out. Oh well, that's the cop in you. You're an
37:46
investigator. I like that. I love that. Yeah, well I saw
37:51
that and then I believe it was Primal Cry. She's in our chats a
37:53
lot, she says Dartwood's girlfriend. She sent me a an email which had
38:00
that this. It was a video from Israeli news and the guy was talking
38:05
about how someone had gone before Congress, one of the Three Letter agencies or
38:08
something had gone before Congress. I think, I see you that article.
38:12
But it was they went before Congress to ask to have the funding change for
38:15
a program where they were injecting Special Forces soldiers with animal DNA and some of
38:21
those were bear DNA samples, I guess, and wolves and things like that.
38:28
So I don't know. She said, well, hey, maybe this
38:30
is what the zombie beer was, you know, because they had dropped a
38:34
couple of those people in East Tennessee the bear hybrid humans. You know.
38:40
But I don't know what. We live in such a weird world, and
38:46
I don't want to say like I can just believe anything now, but I
38:49
kind of can. I can't believe it because I've seen some weird stuff just
38:54
remote viewing wise, you know, when the person doesn't believe in things like
39:00
that, it's easy to go, oh, you know that they're making it
39:05
up. There's there's no such thing as bigfoot, there's no such thing as
39:07
monsters. It's easy to have that opinion when you've never had an experience.
39:13
But the first time you see something, it's it's a paradigm shift. And
39:17
from then on, I think, once your mind has been opened to the
39:21
possibility that those things out there, you begin to notice things you didn't pay
39:24
attention to before. I mean, it's easy to ignore, say, wood
39:30
knocks, it's tree structures in the woods if you don't believe bigfoots out there,
39:32
like, oh, the trees just fell that way. But when you
39:36
or you know, we'd maybe some hikers stacked these rocks like this, it's
39:40
easy to just explain stuff like that away until you've had an experience and it
39:45
just kind of opens your mind, and then things you just ignored before suddenly
39:50
start making more sense. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we never can
39:54
rule out a board camper or drug campers and board boy scouts. Okay,
40:00
that's what we always say, drunch hampers and board boy scouts, because you
40:04
know, they do go out there and make debris hunts and things like that,
40:07
and uh and so I my mind always goes right away to campers and
40:13
survivalists out there doing survivalist training, doing some of the stuff. But it's
40:19
almost like I can I get a different feeling when I see something that is
40:22
authentic and a big foot did it. You know, it's weird, it's
40:25
weird to explain, but m but you know I've made I've made crude hunting
40:31
blinds like are hunting and turkey hunting. I've let to drag branches and set
40:36
up a little little hunting blinds that were but those are like me sized.
40:39
When you find one that's you know, that's considerably larger than a person would
40:45
need, like Andre the giant out here and making a hunting blind, what's
40:49
going on here? Or in one case I found down near the Nyanga River
40:52
down in Moon Valley where tree branches have been snapped off to make a make
40:58
a make a a blind, not cut off snapped off and that that's not
41:02
that's not that unusual. I mean I could grab a branch that's you know,
41:07
a couple inches a diameter and snap it off. But some of them
41:08
were the diameter of my wrist, and some of the ones that were also
41:13
snapped off and in the blind were higher than I could reach. Wow.
41:17
Yeah, you have to use your discernment with this. I don't think there's
41:21
any eight nine foot tall guys out there snapping snapping branches off the diameter of
41:25
a baseball at the eight nine foot mark. Yeah, it's not only hard
41:30
to break limbs, but especially if they're alive and they're green, it's almost
41:34
impossible. And what is heavy too. I could I could have hung from
41:37
that and I two sixty. Really I could have hung from that branch and
41:40
not broken it. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you some things are just
41:45
inexplainable and inexplicable, I guess you say, and uh, and it just
41:51
it the more likely suspect would be a big Foot. I for a lot.
41:54
Sometimes something else just doesn't make sense exactly. There's a lot of things
42:00
that don't make sense, especially when you're on the woods. On one of
42:04
the theories we've been working on with the guys on on my show Da x
42:07
Maketa is the possibility that what people think of as wood knocks are actually not
42:14
wood on wood, that these the big Foot are making it with their mouth
42:19
because I can make a popping noise with my tongue and you can hear it
42:21
a long way. It's really loud. And I'm just, you know,
42:24
you know, just a six foot tall dude, so you know, something
42:28
that's twice my body density could probably make it hell of a noise by popping
42:31
its tongue. And we also think that the popping might actually be a form
42:37
of of echolocation that if they are using these caves caves for travel woods.
42:45
Okay, good point, because that's something that my team we've always said,
42:49
we think it's our mouse, it's not wood at all. And actually Craig,
42:52
my buddy Craig, he might be in the chat today. I don't
42:54
know. Craig action Jackson's part of my team, and he's a cave cave
42:59
specialists. Will by the way he talks about speed leology. Oh him too.
43:05
He's part of the Speleological Society. I was part of the part of
43:08
the Missouri Cavers Group. I was part of a Missouri Cave Guild for years.
43:13
But that was back when before I got married, and when I weighed
43:15
about you know, about seventy pounds less than more I could get back.
43:21
Yeah, you gotta I see. I'm not into I get claustrophobic. I
43:23
have a hard time squeezing through tight spaces. I'm not a big fan of
43:27
that. I can tell you some weird stories from caves here in Missouri,
43:30
just from the caves. Just from the caves, I see that the caves
43:35
scare me a little bit, just because the unknown that's in there, and
43:39
that's so dark, and I've I've got I've seen too many videos of like
43:43
the Rake or whatever, these zombie looking crawler people are like coming out of
43:46
caves and the what are the numbers? The Tommy Knockers. One of the
43:52
caves here is here in Missouri. It's called it's called Smiddle Cave, and
43:57
I would like to have you remote view it and let me know what you
44:00
find. Wait, is that is that the address that Robbie sent me?
44:04
He sent me an address of some of the place. Asked, he said
44:06
that y'all wanted me to remove you something. I just said, just send
44:08
me the address. I don't know the address. I said he sent me
44:13
something because I was like, don't tell me anything about it. But even
44:16
from the Missouri Department of Conservation website, it's called Smiddle Cave. It's near
44:21
Grove Springs, Missouri, S M. I. T. T. L.
44:23
E. The Smiddle family owned that land for a couple of generations.
44:29
Missouri took it from him in the mid eighties. And now why now he's
44:34
standing on it. Well, you tell me. I could send you the
44:37
pictures I couldn't get right now, obviously, But entrance the cave, entrance
44:43
itself is big enough you could drive a semi into it. It's the third,
44:45
third or fifth largest cave in the state of Missouri. However, the
44:50
State of the Missouri Department Conservation claimed that there were endangered brown bats living in
44:54
that cave, although we know now, we know now that brown bats live
45:00
all over Missouri and they're not endangered. But that's the excuse. They used
45:02
to strip this Smiddle family in their of their land. And they put they
45:07
put and tell me this is to protect bats. Like I said, in
45:12
the mouth of this cave you could drive a semi into. They put a
45:15
twenty five or thirty foot tall gate across of it made out of steel bars
45:22
this big. They are keeping something in there, are in or out.
45:28
Yeah, but well you've got to think of all the underground bases you've got
45:30
in Missouri, and what I remote viewed with that lab down there in the
45:35
facilities, and then what the Secret Space Program guys were telling me. There's
45:37
all sorts of stuff going on down there. It's like a whole other city
45:42
belowground. So that might just be one of the interests to it. I
45:45
mean, there's something weird going on there, and I would love you,
45:50
but it's not the best. I was actually watching your show the other night,
45:52
DA when you guys were discussing that. I logged back in. I
45:55
think it was during I have my show while you guys are live on your
45:59
show and then come back, and I watched it usually catch the end of
46:00
your show. And I just sent you a picture of the mouth of that
46:04
cave with a human, a normal sized person in the in the in the
46:09
image for scale. So tell me this is tell me that is to keep
46:14
people out. Okay, if you wanted to keep people out of that cave,
46:17
a six foot tall a six foot tall chain link fits with barbed wire
46:21
on the top would have kept people out. Okay, let me let me
46:25
download this. Download it all right, We're gonna we're gonna upload this to
46:30
stream yard. Let's see because that's yeah, we'll show audience. You cannot
46:35
convince me this is to keep people out of this cave. No, I
46:38
don't think it would take It would take a tank or a bulldozer to get
46:43
through that. I've seen this picture before too, there's a person. Yeah,
46:46
we've showed it a few times on the show. Yeah, okay,
46:50
because the bats, that is not to keep people out. And I'm telling
46:52
you when you get close to that bats, I'm telling you, when you
46:57
get up close to it, the their square bars that run across there that
47:01
are welded in place and concreted into into the walls of the of the cave
47:07
there there, and they are that they're as big as my forearm. Oh
47:12
my gosh, you can't tell me that bad person. Yeah, well,
47:15
a person could probably just climb over it, right, I mean it'd be
47:19
hard, probably, but well it's got that that grating on the top that
47:22
leans out. It would be difficult, difficult, but not impossible to climb
47:28
over. Interesting, very interesting. I'm not surprised. I have seen that
47:35
picture before somewhere, and I've seen it several times because it was I think
47:38
we were just looking into caves, perhaps around the Appalachian Mountains and stuff like
47:44
that. And I came across that picture before because I you know, I
47:46
did a show on the cave systems with my friend Craig, who I just
47:50
referenced, and we talked about We actually talked about the missing four one one
47:53
cases and when you put that map over the big Foot sightings as well.
47:58
They all do interconnect with the underground military bases. It's just all one big
48:02
connection. So well, I just recently found out there's also been major excavations
48:07
done in that cave. Oh ooh, okay, well, I was just
48:13
looking into what are they excavating? Well, around that area, we have
48:17
ancient Egyptian settlements in some of those caves. Did you know that there was
48:22
a tribe of Native Americans in the early eighteen hundreds when Lewis and Clark went
48:25
through Missouri, there were there were a tribe of Native Americans in this area
48:30
that spoke a dialect of Celtic. Really Okay, now, I didn't know
48:37
that. They're not fantastic. There's a fantastic book you need to read Jestsica.
48:43
Okay, it's called The Suppressed, The Suppressed History of America, The
48:47
Murder of Mary Marywether Lewis and Mysterious Discoveries of the Lewis and Clark Expedition,
48:52
The Lewis and Clark documents, the journals they took, most of those are
48:57
available. There are still huge sections their journal that are either completely redacted or
49:01
classified and you can't walk. I can't view them. I think the joy
49:06
will not allow. I bet they deal with giants in Sasquatch. A lot
49:10
of this book does. Oh and whereatic on my second pass through the book,
49:16
Yeah, it is a very interesting read. I highly rett that book.
49:22
Oh, I'm so going to check that book out. Absolutely. Yeah.
49:24
There's just so much of this history that has been hidden from us.
49:28
And uh, the more digging that I do, the more I'm discovering.
49:31
And thanks to people like yourself and to like Jesus Pyanne Junior has been coming
49:37
on my daytime show. We talked about the hidden history. Isn't he the
49:39
best? He is he showing you some of those huge artifacts he's collected.
49:44
I've seen some of the stuff he's got, talking to him about he's got.
49:47
He's got axe heads like hat like for for hatchets, like like a
49:51
Native American would make you know, like flint napped, they're they're probably fifty
49:55
pounds. Oh my gosh, human would be Yeah, there's no way I
50:01
could have swung that. I mean, when I was a young man,
50:05
I did. I did plenty of like like brickwork and would break up concrete
50:08
with a sledge hammer and I split wood. You know, swing swing a
50:13
ten pound sledge pretty easy. But a fifty pounds sledge hammer, I'm not
50:15
gonna be able to swing that more than once or twice. I bet Daniel
50:20
Boone could do it, and or no, notut Daniel Boom Paul Bunnyon,
50:22
Paul bay In that's the one. Yeah, I actually looked at I did
50:27
a remote viewing target because I did I tell you about this. I don't
50:30
know if we've talked about it, Paul Bunyan, there is a picture he
50:36
was okay, so well, he was a fictional character based on a real
50:39
person. But that person may not have been an actual human because one of
50:45
the historical societies and whatever state it was in, I don't know if it
50:50
was in Wisconsin. I think it was Wisconsin. Maybe I can't come in
50:52
Minnesota. Probably Minnesota. They have on file. You can look it up
50:57
online. I'm going to send you the link after the show today you can
51:00
and I'll see you the show that I did on it because I remote viewed
51:02
him. Uh, they have a picture of him that was a drawing of
51:07
Paul Bunyan and or the man that the character was based off of. And
51:10
he's like a wild man. He's a type for sasquatch. Da. I
51:15
remote viewed the person that Paul Bunyan was based off of, and he was
51:19
a type for Neanderthal type wild man sasquatch. Yeah, it does, it
51:27
does. It was. It was shocking almost And now they have that picture
51:30
on their website. They say you can't, they don't want you to use
51:32
it. Well, I kind of altered it a little bit and I kind
51:35
of put it up on my on my you know, the show art or
51:37
whatever. So, um, I can see you a picture of it.
51:40
But it's online. It's absolutely online. There's information, um not not.
51:45
They don't say he's a sasquatch. That was That was me doing some digging
51:49
and remote viewing it. But he doesn't look human. He definitely does not
51:53
look human in that drawing. Um. So yeah, it's it's food for
51:58
thought. One of my team mates let's see Glenn. My friend Glenn Jackson
52:02
actually another Jackson h sent me. Uh. He said, Jessica, you
52:06
need to remote view Paul Bunyon. And I was like, why, that's
52:09
weird, like a cartoon. He was like, no, you need to
52:13
remote view him, just remote view who the person was, the human based
52:15
off you know, the character was based off of And we got so much
52:19
effort. And he's a remote viewer too. We got some really interesting information.
52:22
So, um, that's part of this hidden history. DA. There's
52:27
just so much the ancient Egyptians and the Grand Canyon, and I believe it
52:30
was in Illinois if I'm not mistaken. It's mind blowing things that have been
52:37
hidden from us, or even even even all these asylums and the Old World
52:43
fairs and the human resets, the orphan trains, the incubator babies, human
52:50
cloning. I mean, that's something I love talking about. I talked about
52:53
that with with Jesus occasionally two on these shows. The human cloning factories and
52:58
stuff even from back in the day. It's just weird, right, Oh
53:04
yeah, So yeah's history this country, very bizarre, very bizarre, and
53:09
it's all and it's all hidden from us. You know, even even sasquatch.
53:15
What are what is the point of you know, they say some logging
53:19
companies. You know, I just did a show on Patty. I'm not
53:21
gonna get into details because it was kind of sad, but I did a
53:22
show on Patty. I had remote viewed what happened at Bluff Creek and uh
53:28
and through the information that came out in that we had a discussion on that
53:32
show. Barry Littleton and I we talked about, um, the logging companies,
53:37
Like we questioned, like why would the logging companies lie about sasquatch or
53:40
like not disclose that information like you'd think that people would want to just or
53:44
maybe it was John Vanovitcher I was talking to you about this, But why
53:46
why wouldn't it if they were going in and they were eradicating sasquatches because they
53:50
were tearing up equipment and things like that in those properties that they were logging
53:53
on, why wouldn't they like show a body or be like, oh these
54:00
out there, it'll shut down their logging operation completely. Okay, look what
54:04
happened in Oregon when the spotted owl. They shut down logging in Oregon for
54:08
decades because the spotted owl. Now, if it came like there's a primitive
54:13
species of humanoid living out there, do you think people are going to stand
54:16
by and let them, you know, basically log them out of a home.
54:20
Oh man, that's such a great point. You're you're all, you're
54:22
on target on that. And for sure. Yeah, it's just like these
54:25
black panthers and stuff, where given the North Georgia Mountains, we're not supposed
54:30
to have those panthers and and and yeah, well you know, even when
54:36
you get gamecam footage of them, they'll still deny it. That's not what
54:39
you think it is. John and I saw one kill one of his coon
54:43
dogs. Really wow. They get to be really big and they're very dangerous,
54:47
and that's worry. I think it's good to know what's out there,
54:51
but especially when we're out there doing big footfield research and looking in for dogman
54:54
and things like that. The thing is that if you're going to do any
54:58
kind of cryptid research, whether you're looking for big food or dog man or
55:00
chew picabro or you know, chep squash or bat squash or whatever it is
55:04
you're looking for or whatever, you know, smurfs, giant mushrooms, I
55:07
don't know whatever you're looking for out there, very aware of the native fauna
55:13
that are supposed to be there. Uh Like, for example, I with
55:16
somebuddy's in mine rubbing Rocky Mountain National and we were camping and we weren't there
55:22
looking for bigfoot or anything. We were just about being guys. And they
55:27
woke me up. I went to bed because it was it was I was
55:30
time, was exhausted. I'd been up worked over the overnight the night before
55:35
and we got a camp site set up, and I just went to bed.
55:37
They woke me up. They're like, dude, we think there's big
55:39
foot out in the woods. I'm like, all right, So I climb
55:43
out of my sleeping bag and I get out and I'm like what They're like,
55:45
just listen, And it was every couple of minutes, there's a seriously,
55:49
and it's gotten closer. It's a big foot. And all of a
55:52
sudden, I hear this god awful racket in my sigh and I go,
55:54
please tell me, none of you more runs have never heard a bugle before.
56:01
And they're like, that's an elk. I'm like, that's a that's
56:04
a bull elk, that's a Please don't wake me up for elk oh,
56:09
my gosh. Yeah, they had no idea. So if you're going to
56:13
be out there looking for something, if you're gonna be listening for like bigfoot
56:15
vocalizations, you need to know what other vocalizations you could be hearing, like,
56:21
for example, a fox. A fox will make a god awful,
56:23
weird variety of noises, things you would never think would come from a fox,
56:29
and they'll sound like a like a herd of banshees are coming after you.
56:31
I mean, foxes will terrify the crop out of you. Cats too,
56:35
mountains and bobcats. Owls, screech owl, I can make your blood
56:40
run cold if you don't know what it is natural sounds. There are lots
56:46
of natural sounds out there that if you aren't familiar with them, you could
56:50
easily mistake it for cryptid evidence. And I've had a number of people send
56:52
me I heard a recording. I think I got big foot on my property.
56:57
And I'll listen to the recording and I'll put my headphones in and turn
57:00
it all the way up and just sit and listen. I'm like, screech
57:02
owl calling back. I'm like, oh, like this is that's an owl.
57:07
They're like, are you sure. I'm like, absolutely sure. I
57:09
thought. Here, I'll send you a YouTube link on what a screech owl
57:12
sounds like. And then you can go on YouTube and you put in you
57:16
know, screech owl call or or or or fox calls. And there are
57:22
recordings that people have posted, you know, a lot of these wildlife channels
57:25
of post post recordings of these and then a lot of universities have have call
57:30
libraries where you can listen to the sounds of native animals. But if you're
57:34
not familiar with the animals in your area, uh, you'd be surprised.
57:37
I mean it's surprised what some of the natural sounds are. I mean,
57:40
even a squirrel will sound like a three hundred pound buck coming through the lids
57:44
when it wants to, and it's scroll of bark at you. If you
57:46
if you know there, I call them, you know, the early alert
57:51
system for deer hunters, because if you get if you piss a squirrel off,
57:54
you're not going to see a buck because it'll scare everything off. Yeah.
58:00
Gosh, my dog actually went crashing through a window one day trying to
58:02
get it. A squirrel. Don't ever put a bird feeder in front of
58:05
your front window. Okay, just don't. It's not a good idea.
58:08
Um. But yeah, no, No, I have a wildlife biologist on
58:12
my team, and we have a lot we have a lot of really just
58:16
naturists. I guess you can call it on my teams. Uh no,
58:20
no, the words of the sounds and and we all there. There was
58:23
a time when we first all kind of became a team and everything, and
58:25
we were hearing all these noises out in the woods. They would, uh,
58:29
we would hear something we weren't really sure what it was, and then
58:30
one of the guys would send recordings, like you were saying, and send
58:34
it out to the whole team so we could all hear what that noise was
58:36
and we'd agree, well, that's what that was. It was an owl,
58:38
you know, it was this and uh, because we have they have
58:42
that data bank online you said, you know, and we just click a
58:45
link and then send it out to everybody and we all agree that was what
58:46
we heard. Uh. We just something really nuts. We were camping one
58:53
time. We didn't know what the hell it was. We're like, what
58:57
is that noise? And I've grown up in and around the woods and I'm
59:00
like running through my head like that's not a mountain line, that's not a
59:01
bobcat that. I'm like freaking out. I'm like what is this? Because
59:06
it was like this weird, screechy, multi tonal scream, and I'm like,
59:10
what the hell is that? So I grabbed a flashlight and my pistol,
59:14
put my pistol in my holster and we're hitting that way. We cut
59:17
another campsite about half a mile away. There was a jackass blow on a
59:21
Mayan death whistle. Scared the shit out of us. Oh my god,
59:25
a Maya and death whistle. What the heck? Well what are you doing?
59:30
He's like, well, I just thought it's to be a freak anyboddy
59:31
out. I'm like, well, mischi accomplished. What is that? Like
59:35
a seasheller or something like? What is that? Mayan used to carve them
59:38
out of like Onyx, and they would blow them going into battle, There'd
59:43
be a hundred guys blowing these whistles and they make like this multi tone scream.
59:47
It sounds like sounds like a demon from Hell itself is coming screaming at
59:52
you. Go on, go on YouTube and and let's search mayan death whistle.
59:55
That sound you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful with that because
59:59
those sounds of those tones, those frequencies really do attract sasquatch and and cryptids.
1:00:05
When I was in LBL, I just took my cell phone and I
1:00:08
pulled up on YouTube predator calls U specifically dying Rabbit, which show I had
1:00:15
this little speaker that when we used to coyotes, we would play these dying
1:00:20
rabbit calls. Freaking predators came run it because they think it's an easy meal.
1:00:23
Well, I would played that on the shore of one of the lakes
1:00:27
at Demembers Bay, and I heard something coming at me in the woods.
1:00:30
I'm like, what the hell is that? And I could hear something coming
1:00:34
from like three different directions, and that's when I realized, you know what,
1:00:37
I'm out here. Nobody knows where I'm at. I'm by myself,
1:00:39
and I don't have a gun on maybe it's time to get in the van.
1:00:44
And you sound like a dying rabbit, so you better run as I'm
1:00:46
buying on predator calls. And the weird thing was is I was like standing
1:00:50
on the shore of the lake with the woods around me. I was about
1:00:54
maybe as much as one hundred yards from the van. I was a little
1:00:57
ways down in the woods, and it was night. And when you play
1:01:00
a sound like that, it just seems to transfer across the water. Water.
1:01:07
A noise at night over water is different. It travels so much farther.
1:01:12
It sounds so much louder, and just on those little something And it
1:01:14
wasn't like I had it on a good bluetooth speaker. It was just a
1:01:16
cell phone speaker. You could hear an echoing all over the place. And
1:01:19
I'm like, okay, I got something's attention, and it doesn't sound happy.
1:01:23
It was at that moment you knew you had messed up. I'm like,
1:01:27
this is not my brightest idea ever. I got my van fired,
1:01:30
the engine up, I had the windows up their conditioners like because it was
1:01:34
a summertime, and get the doors locked. I put the thing in reverse
1:01:37
and I'm backing up. And as I back up and turn it around,
1:01:40
play the headlights across the woods. I see a whole bunch of eyeshine pretty
1:01:44
high up in the tree, just kind of like that, and just popped
1:01:45
up over my shoulder. Animated that an animated ground. My buddy Adam made
1:01:52
it for me. I can't tell you the number of times people have sent
1:01:54
me messages during one of our live broadcasts. So like it's behind you.
1:02:00
I'm like, and it's a green screen three feet behind cabinet. Way to
1:02:07
creep people out. I mean I have I've had horse line front of me
1:02:10
during my dream my live shows and stuff, so people are able to see
1:02:14
live ORBS live action right there on the screen. Speaking of live action,
1:02:17
you and I are get to hang out Labor Day weekend, DA We're gonna
1:02:22
be last I cannot wait. We are both going to be speaking at the
1:02:27
second annual Paranormal Roundtable dog Man Conference. Are you so? Are you just
1:02:31
so excited? I tell you there's an amazing lineup of people, and I
1:02:36
heard some of your guys are going to be there from da X making a
1:02:38
podcast should should be about all of us. I know Doc's planning on coming,
1:02:42
Robbie's planning on coming. Haven't had a chance to ask Anthony yet,
1:02:45
but but uh, you know, I think Steve is probably probably gonna be
1:02:49
going as well. You should be about all of us there, man,
1:02:52
We're gonna We're gonna have a great time. I might even say an extra
1:02:57
day. Oh yeah, it's gonna be amazing. And I know I missed
1:03:01
the conference last year. I had planned to go, but my friend I
1:03:06
was going with he wasn't feeling well, so we ended up staying home.
1:03:09
And I totally I regretted not go into that one because there is a people
1:03:15
there. Yeah, well, you know where this one's That is only like
1:03:19
four or five miles from the Lake Worth Monster. Oh, it sounds like
1:03:22
a field trip. Field trip. I'm thinking Friday night, after the VIP
1:03:29
barbecue is done, I may jump in the car and head over to Lake
1:03:31
Worth. Oh man, if you got some space, all right too,
1:03:35
we'll follow you or something. I don't know. I don't know how I'm
1:03:37
getting there or where I'm going. I don't know anything yet I have.
1:03:39
I've got to get through these trips this next week and then we're gonna focus
1:03:43
on the Dogman Conference after that. I'm sure there'll be enough of us going.
1:03:46
We'll get you in a vehicle someonewhere. Oh yeah, no, I
1:03:50
yeah, I may if I fly out there, So we'll see. We'll
1:03:52
see. But it's gonna be a good time. DA tell the audience where
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1:04:42
You've got some great guys. You got Anthony dot Robbie of course, and
1:04:45
uh you know I had Robbie hanging out with me at the Georgia Bigfoot conference.
1:04:49
Yeah, he said that was a great time. Oh was talking about
1:04:54
it. Oh yeah, I heard him talking about on your show. We
1:04:56
were surrounded by sasquatch up in the mountains. That's what you're saying. That
1:05:00
was that was a lot of fun. I did not disappoint I don't think
1:05:03
where I took him and uh there, it's never disappointing of there. We
1:05:08
usually have activity, so uh yeah, it made for some good stories.
1:05:11
But yeah, I well, hopefully we'll have some more stories to tell after
1:05:15
that Dogman conference that lake. We hopefully we'll get something to Lake Worth.
1:05:20
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's gonna be amazing. There's got to be.
1:05:24
I heard there's like goatman around here, and all sorts of of Texas is
1:05:27
full of goatmen. Go figure. I don't know why. Hey that and
1:05:30
that that picture that we showed tonight or today, excuse me, it's the
1:05:34
meal of the day. Sorry, that picture that we showed with this face,
1:05:38
let's show it one last time because that looks could that be a goatman?
1:05:42
I don't know. It's sniffing on the ground. I mean it looks.
1:05:45
It doesn't look like a goat though. It still looks to me it
1:05:47
looks like a rap head. Yeah. I just had to show that one
1:05:54
more time. Is it so weird? Like the very pointed nose and it's
1:05:58
bizarre. Yeah, it's bizarre. It's bizarre. What's food for thought?
1:06:01
Yeah, definitely something there. I just can't say with any certainty what it
1:06:05
is. Well, listen, when that video comes out, we're gonna we're
1:06:09
gonna broadcast that video on my channel and uh, maybe we'll see if it's
1:06:14
if it seems legit. Now I do think I think these pictures are legit.
1:06:16
I just don't know what they are. So I was told they were
1:06:19
dog Man. Okay, Well, Da, thank you so much for being
1:06:24
here. This has been a blast this This hour went by so fast it
1:06:29
was like I can't either. I can't either. Well, I want to
1:06:32
thank everybody so much for being here today. Thank on my moderators to being
1:06:36
in the chat today. And you guys please join me this weekend live from
1:06:42
Las Vegas. I'm gonna be broadcasting on the space Out Radio's YouTube channel and
1:06:45
Facebook live from Vegas. Okay, and then, um yeah, if anybody
1:06:49
want to see it live, screen passes or come see me up in Grafton,
1:06:51
Illinois. That's next week if the Journey to Truth Conference okay, So
1:06:57
um yeah, Da, we will see you soon. And uh, it's
1:07:00
always a pleasure having you here. Thank You's always always fun being on the
1:07:04
show with you. Thank you. We have fun. Constress Hey anytime how
1:07:09
about I'll remote you that whatever you want me to remote you for you,
1:07:13
and we'll make a show out. Let's do it, all right, Wonder
1:07:18
Powers activate. Okay, okay, Da, Well, thank you again,
1:07:23
and I will see y'all soon. I'll be back. Listen. You know,
1:07:27
I'm probably not gonna have live shows next week. It'll it'll be a
1:07:29
while, be after a Memorial Day. But uh but y'all, y'all see
1:07:32
me live this weekend. All right, I'll see you later, da,
1:07:34
Thanks again, all right, by y'all. Hold on bye, y'all.