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Credlin | 29 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Petero Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: But breaking news. A caravan full of explosives set for
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Speaker 2: a synagogue has thankfully been discovered before it could cause
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Speaker 2: any harm. Police and learn about it for ten days,
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Speaker 2: but now gone public with the information after it was
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Speaker 2: picked up by the Daily Telegraph. There's an investigation underway
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Speaker 2: account of terrorism. Police are involved. We'll talk to a
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph journalist in a moment. A potential win for households.
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Speaker 2: Inflation hits a four year low, Predictions of an RBA
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Speaker 2: rate cut have increases. Afternoon, Ross Greenwood, he'll join me
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Speaker 2: for all this analysis and the political implications after thirteen
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Speaker 2: rate hikes, can one cut save labor to Queensland And
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Speaker 2: the government's decision to put on whole puberty blockers for
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Speaker 2: children ahead of an expert inquiry life gives me a
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Speaker 2: sense that Australia is finally acting for the same of
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Speaker 2: cause we're seeing internationally. Plus, I'll have some exclusive details
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Speaker 2: for you are renewed efforts directed at camera to get
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Speaker 2: these drugs investigated by experts. And the second part tonight
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Speaker 2: of my special report into Labour's reckless renewables only energy push,
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Speaker 2: not just the harm it's doing to our regions, but
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Speaker 2: what it will mean for our country.
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Speaker 3: That's all going to get more and more expensive and
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Speaker 3: everything's going to fly on and affect them.
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Speaker 4: So it's so important.
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Speaker 3: That they realize that, which, as you say, they're saying,
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Speaker 3: to realize and vote to reflect that. Otherwise Australia is
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Speaker 3: going to be god knows where it could be.
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Speaker 2: But first, last night I had a willing exchange with
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Speaker 2: my colleague Andrew Clenell over whether female voters needed to
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Speaker 2: be wooed with special policy is in order to vote
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Speaker 2: for the coalition. Maybe it was prompted by polling that
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Speaker 2: showed Peter Dutton's doing considerably better on average with male
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Speaker 2: than female voters.
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Speaker 5: It Peter Dutton wants to win. One thing he can
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Speaker 5: do is a couple of women friendly policies.
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Speaker 2: What's a women's friendly policy? You think we don't know
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Speaker 2: about the economy, we don't care about defense.
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Speaker 5: I'm not a woman, but I'm saying we care about
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Speaker 5: if he went for that constituency, if he did a
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Speaker 5: couple of things in that area. And remember gladys periogically
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Speaker 5: and colelegence funny.
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Speaker 2: No one seems to suggest the PM needs special male
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Speaker 2: policies to win over men, but we women can be
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Speaker 2: thrown a few rhetorical policy trinkets and that buys our vote,
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Speaker 2: or that other furfy that women vote for only women
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Speaker 2: candidates just because they're women. As I said to Andrew
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Speaker 2: last night, that's offensive. Just like men, we vote with
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Speaker 2: our heads and our hearts, not our genitals. We don't
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Speaker 2: all think alike just because of our gender. And a
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Speaker 2: new childcare policy or something like free tampons in schools
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Speaker 2: hardly likely by itself to get our vote, nor should it.
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Speaker 2: How relevant is any of that to a pensioner on
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Speaker 2: a fixed income worried about her power bill. As women,
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Speaker 2: we are just as focused on the economy and national
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Speaker 2: security as mail voters are, especially when you consider itselfen
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Speaker 2: women who juggle the bills each week, and at this
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Speaker 2: time of year wonder how they're going to pay off
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Speaker 2: the Christmas credit card bill at the same time as
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Speaker 2: for new school shoes for the kids. Now, one of
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Speaker 2: the features of sky News is we aren't all intellectual clones.
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Speaker 2: We've put a lot of different views to wear. And
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Speaker 2: that's a good thing now, as is obvious by the
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Speaker 2: fact he's a regular on my show. I've got a
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Speaker 2: lot of time for Andrew's analysis, but when I don't agree,
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Speaker 2: you'll know about it. And on this network we could
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Speaker 2: have a civil disagreement, and that's a good thing. So
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Speaker 2: this nonsense that women all vote or even largely vote
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Speaker 2: on so called women's issues is not only wrong, but
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Speaker 2: it means women. It suggests that there's a silver bullet
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Speaker 2: out there, a suite of women's policies. If you like that,
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Speaker 2: if you get the right, you print them off, you
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Speaker 2: wake a pink cover on the front. Then you'll win
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Speaker 2: the female vote and with that the election. Now there's
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Speaker 2: not and you won't. It also suggests that there's women's
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Speaker 2: issues and women's policies over here, and then everything else
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Speaker 2: that's not in that domain, by the fault, is the
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Speaker 2: domain of ben So family and household equals women and
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Speaker 2: all the really big stuff all that equals men. Now
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Speaker 2: again dead wrong. Why should women be more interested in
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Speaker 2: childcare policy, for instance, and economic policies, superannuation, foreign policy,
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Speaker 2: all of that, given that these issues affect women know
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Speaker 2: less than men and Conversely, given shared parenting today, why
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Speaker 2: wouldn't the man with young kids be interested in childcare?
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Speaker 2: As we saw in the recent US election, the concept
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Speaker 2: of gender voting splits is far less relevant today than
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Speaker 2: generational voting splits. Despite all the supposed pro women campaigning
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Speaker 2: from the Democrats, and remember abortion, it was front and
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Speaker 2: censoring the debate, no greater issue were told that drives
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Speaker 2: the female vote, Well it didn't. Trump picked up a
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Speaker 2: larger proportion of voters under thirty than any Republican presidential
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Speaker 2: candidates since two thousand and eight, according to NBC News
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Speaker 2: exit polling, improving with both young men and young women.
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Speaker 2: Back to Peter Darton, as I said last night, women's
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Speaker 2: policies are not a game changer on the center right
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Speaker 2: in my view. But where gender is relevant, it's how
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Speaker 2: you communicate with women matters, and that's where Dutton can improve.
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Speaker 2: Broadly speaking, women want to see the humanity in our candidates.
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Speaker 2: They often want to feel like they've got to know
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Speaker 2: them a little better, and especially with male candidates, they
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Speaker 2: like to see them with other people in their lives.
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Speaker 2: So if it's a bloke, they want to see their
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Speaker 2: partner and any children they might have now. I saw
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Speaker 2: their firsthand very much with Tony Abbott, Margie, his sister,
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Speaker 2: his mum, his daughters. In particular, it wasn't so called
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Speaker 2: women's policies at one abb atter greater share of the
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Speaker 2: female vote than Malcolm Turnbull. Yes, that's right, the bloke
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Speaker 2: who's supposedly popular with women against the bloke who supposedly wasn't.
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Speaker 2: It was getting a handle on who he was as
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Speaker 2: a person, his humanity, his strength as a leader, that
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Speaker 2: made the difference. What's as important in any discussion about
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Speaker 2: the female vote and the coalition is the reverse for labor.
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Speaker 2: If Darton's doing well with men, the wires Albanezi doing
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Speaker 2: so poorly. As I said, no one's asking Labor, where's
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Speaker 2: Jamen's policies?
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Speaker 4: Are they?
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Speaker 2: But if we women are supposed to vote based on
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Speaker 2: women's policies and not values or ardi ology, well why
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Speaker 2: not men? See why this sort of old style campaign
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Speaker 2: thinking needs to be shaken up. The electric's complex now.
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Speaker 2: It's more volatile, more splinter than ever before in terms
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Speaker 2: of how people consume their information than at any other
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Speaker 2: time in our history. It's why it's so hard to
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Speaker 2: poll electrics these days, so hard to get campaign messages
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Speaker 2: out there and why our elections can be so unpredictable.
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Speaker 2: Bottom line, this election will be one for the ages
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Speaker 2: and here at Sky you'll get all sides of the debate.
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Speaker 2: You'll get healthy debate, even civil disagreement. And isn't that
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Speaker 2: what we need more of, not less?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 2: More on that explosive caravan discovered in a moment, but
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Speaker 2: let's head to Camber now for that political news with
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Speaker 2: Sky News political reporter Cam Reddit.
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Speaker 4: Good evening.
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Speaker 7: Inflation has fallen to a three year low, with a
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Speaker 7: February rate cut now a real possibility. On every measure,
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Speaker 7: we have now made substantial and sustained progress in this
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Speaker 7: fight against inflation. Three of the big four banks now
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Speaker 7: expect the RBA will cut rates next month.
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Speaker 8: Productivity numbers are really low. That's not great for inflation,
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Speaker 8: and the services numbers and these data were not great.
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Speaker 8: I don't necessarily think that that means it stops them
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Speaker 8: from putting in a wreck cut in February. But it's
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Speaker 8: not a done deal.
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Speaker 4: This ain't a soft landing.
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Speaker 9: This is a hard landing from a government that has
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Speaker 9: overseen the biggest collapse of Australian's standard of living in
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Speaker 9: our recorded history.
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Speaker 7: The opposition leader has arrived in Alice Springs, taking his
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Speaker 7: pre election campaign to the Red Center.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister spoke a big game in relation to
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Speaker 2: the Voice and spent four hundred and fifty million dollars,
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Speaker 2: but essentially has forgotten about Indigenous communities during the period
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Speaker 2: since then.
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Speaker 7: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Shocking news this afternoon a caravan laden with explosives and
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Speaker 2: a note of the addresses of Jewish targets saying if
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Speaker 2: the Jews has been found in Dural, Northwest Sydney. The
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Speaker 2: Premier in just the last hour had this to.
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Speaker 10: Say, I want to make it absolutely clear and I
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Speaker 10: understand community concerns about this story and similar escalating incidents
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Speaker 10: of anti Semitic violence in our community, that anyone attempting
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Speaker 10: terrorism violence hatred in our community will be met with
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Speaker 10: the full force of the law.
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Speaker 2: All right, for more on this than the other stories today,
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by Skyney's host national affairs editor too
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Speaker 2: the Danily Telegraph, James Morrow, and our senior reporter from Sydney,
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Speaker 2: Skeynyer's reporter Carolyn marcus Well. James, Yes, thankfully it's all
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Speaker 2: been foiled. But we would not have known about this
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Speaker 2: but for your newspaper. What can you tell us?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's and this story broke just hours ago at
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Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraph website by our reporters Mark Moore and
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Speaker 1: josh Hanrahan, discovering that police had known for at least
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Speaker 1: ten days about this caravan in Durall, which is a
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Speaker 1: suburb of Sydney.
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Speaker 4: It's a kind of.
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Speaker 1: A rural sort of area suburban Sydney. It had in
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Speaker 1: it jelignite explosives that they believed to have been stolen
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Speaker 1: from a mining site, you know, so it could have
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Speaker 1: been used for detonating and clearing rocks of that sort
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Speaker 1: of thing. Police in this press conference said that it
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Speaker 1: may have had a blast radius of as much as
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Speaker 1: forty meters, which is pretty disturbing to think about the
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Speaker 1: sort of damage that that could cause. It would certainly
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Speaker 1: be a mass casualty attack. And police have made a
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Speaker 1: number of arrestslays, say on the periphery of this investigation,
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Speaker 1: but they don't know quite where this was all coming
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Speaker 1: from or where this was going. There was a list
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Speaker 1: of potential targets. There was, as you say, that offensive
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Speaker 1: message written inside it. And it's only because apparently somebody
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Speaker 1: in the community was so concerned about this caravan that
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Speaker 1: they thought had been abandoned there many weeks ago, so
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Speaker 1: the police joined about this. Sometime this person actually moved
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Speaker 1: the caravan off the road where they had been sticking
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Speaker 1: out into traffic, looked inside, Saul was inside and alerted police.
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Speaker 1: But obviously, Peter, this is a huge escalation if it
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Speaker 1: is as it seems to be, of this rising tide
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Speaker 1: of really concerning violent anti Semitic attacks. We've seen not
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Speaker 1: just cars towards vandalism. We saw that attack on a
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Speaker 1: childcare center, we saw the attack on Alex Rivkins's former
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Speaker 1: residents in the Eastern suburbs, and police are obviously really
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Speaker 1: concerned that this is going to escalate to something even worse.
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Speaker 2: James, I'll just start with you for a moment. I mean,
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Speaker 2: clearly the language now is terrorism. Let's call it terrorism.
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Speaker 2: That's what the police have used. They've stood up a
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Speaker 2: counter terrorism task force to look into this. When you're
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Speaker 2: talking about a caravan within explosives of this nature and
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Speaker 2: Jewish sites, so any sites targeted inside that caravan, that's
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Speaker 2: what we're dealing with. Now. It's a week or so
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Speaker 2: ago that we had a national Cabinet. I would presume,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Prime Minister hasn't come forward with any
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Speaker 2: real information for the public as yet, but I would
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Speaker 2: presume this was brief to the National Cabinet. I would
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Speaker 2: want to hope there has been meetings of the National
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Speaker 2: Security Committee of Federal Cabinet on these very issues. Do
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Speaker 2: we have any confirmation.
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Speaker 1: Of this, Well, we have had no confirmation that this
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Speaker 1: was actually briefed to the National Cabinet. I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: whether or not the National Security Committee has actually met
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Speaker 1: on this, you know, But ever since October seventh, there
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Speaker 1: has been a great deal of criticism of the Albanzi
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Speaker 1: government for just being repeatedly on the back foot, not
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Speaker 1: addressing the Jewish community, not addressing the attacks, not calling
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Speaker 1: the National Security Committee very early on in the peace
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Speaker 1: after October seventh, and this I think has been the
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Speaker 1: late motif of the way this government has handled this
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Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It says all the right things eventually,
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Speaker 1: but it gives everybody the sense that they're on the
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Speaker 1: back foot.
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Speaker 2: Carolyn, I imagine you are shell shocked by this news.
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Speaker 11: In a way, Peter, I mean, it is shocking but
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Speaker 11: we've almost become desensitized, and the attacks are just escalating
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Speaker 11: and escalating lately against the Jewish community. I think a
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Speaker 11: lot of people within the community have felt that today
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Speaker 11: was inevitable that we would come to a point where
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Speaker 11: we would see what has all the hallmarks in this
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Speaker 11: case of a terrorism plot against the community. We've already
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Speaker 11: seen the firebombing of a synagogue in Melbourne. We've seen
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Speaker 11: the attempted firebombing of a synagogue in Sydney, synagogue graffited here,
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Speaker 11: the firebombing of the former home of a Jewish community leader,
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Speaker 11: and fire bombing of a daycare center around the corner
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Speaker 11: from a Jewish daycare and a Jewish synagogue with f
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Speaker 11: the Jews emblazoned on it. So all of this has
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Speaker 11: been culminating to this point, and I'm glad to see
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Speaker 11: that authorities have been investigating this and the authorities in
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Speaker 11: the premiere taking it seriously. They say that being arrests
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Speaker 11: on the periphery, why we weren't told about this before?
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Speaker 4: Will?
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Speaker 11: They say it was for operational reasons. But I think
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Speaker 11: the community would have liked to have known that there
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Speaker 11: was this serious threat against them at some stage earlier
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Speaker 11: than perhaps ten days into an investigation like this. Now,
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Speaker 11: obviously the police need to be able to catch the
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Speaker 11: people responsible, and they're now appealing from more information. But
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Speaker 11: I think that you know, it has got to just
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Speaker 11: beyond breaking point here, Peter. My kids don't even go
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Speaker 11: to a Jewish school of daycare, but just because of
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Speaker 11: the nature of where it is, they've now had to
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Speaker 11: put security guards out played the school this week and
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Speaker 11: that just appalls me as a parent. They had it
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Speaker 11: right after October seven, they've got it again now after
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Speaker 11: the Staycare bombing, and no doubt it will continue because
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Speaker 11: of this incident that we're learning about today and it
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Speaker 11: is just shocking. It is beyond words.
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Speaker 2: I'll leave this here to go to other news today,
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Speaker 2: but we will come back to it, please with Greg
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Speaker 2: Sheridan in a moment. There's a plan from the Coalition James,
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Speaker 2: and this I think will be very popular electorally, to
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Speaker 2: block foreign investors from buying residential property in Australia. Now,
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Speaker 2: the government says won't make much of a difference, but
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Speaker 2: if you look at some data published in the nine newspapers,
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Speaker 2: you've got sixty nine percent of Australians who think this
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Speaker 2: is a pretty good idea and that support is even
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Speaker 2: higher in marginal seats, is as high as seventy three percent.
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Speaker 2: Too small to make a difference, says the Labor Party.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that voters don't see it as anything much.
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Speaker 2: I think they see it as pretty important.
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Speaker 1: James, Yeah, No, Peter, I think they see it as
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Speaker 1: important because you know, even if it doesn't make a
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Speaker 1: huge difference, it does do something. I think it's symbolic
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Speaker 1: as well that you know, Australian homes are for Australian buyers,
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Speaker 1: and you know Australian renters not necessarily for foreign investors
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Speaker 1: to come in and snap them up. And I think
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Speaker 1: people have had those experiences many times at auctions and
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Speaker 1: seeing that sort of thing happen. I think it's low
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Speaker 1: hanging fruit. I think it's a great idea and the
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Speaker 1: only thing that I would quiver with a Peter is
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Speaker 1: that it's only temporary. It's only two years. Why not
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Speaker 1: just make this a permanent feature of the way real
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Speaker 1: estate has handled in Australia.
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Speaker 2: I don't disagree. Let's go to Queensland and Christophllia government
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Speaker 2: up there is he to pause on hormone treatments for
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Speaker 2: anyone under the age of eighteen. It comes after the
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Speaker 2: can Sexual Health Service was prescribing stage one and stage
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Speaker 2: two hormone therapies to young people outside the guidelines. Carolyn,
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Speaker 2: You've got some exclusive years too that this is going
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Speaker 2: to be a real push at a national level, with
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Speaker 2: one hundred public figures all calling for an inquiry into
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Speaker 2: how Australia deals with gender affirming care.
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Speaker 11: What can you tell us, well, I can reveal tonight
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Speaker 11: on the show that an open letter will be sent
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Speaker 11: to the Prime Minister, the Health Minister, as well as
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Speaker 11: the Opposition leader and the state and territory counterparts calling
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Speaker 11: for a national, independent inquiry into gender affirming care for
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Speaker 11: children and young people in Australia. Now that list includes
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Speaker 11: the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who I spoke with today.
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Speaker 11: It'll be part of my story airing later tonight and
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Speaker 11: tomorrow as well. It includes the Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson,
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Speaker 11: as well as people from both sides of the political
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Speaker 11: aisle Labor and the Coalition and Independence, as well as
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Speaker 11: forty doctors, twenty academics and de transit. These are people
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Speaker 11: who've transitioned to another sex if you can agree that
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Speaker 11: that can happen and then transitioned back. So it's a
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Speaker 11: very important letter and it also comes off the back
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Speaker 11: not just of what's happening in Queensland, Peter, but Donald Trump,
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Speaker 11: the US President, today signed an executive order saying that
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Speaker 11: the US will no longer fund any sort of gender
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Speaker 11: affirm and care, puberty blockers hormone treatments for children under
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Speaker 11: the age of nineteen. So this letter is calling for
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Speaker 11: an inquiry into whether we should do something similar like that.
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Speaker 2: Here, of course comes after the Cass inquiry in the
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Speaker 2: UK that's similarly abandoned these treatments for young people. James, Carolyn,
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Speaker 2: thank you. Well, let's go to the good news today.
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Speaker 2: Inflation falling into a four year low in the December quarter,
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Speaker 2: down to two point four percent. The trimmed mean or
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Speaker 2: underlying inflation it also fell, but it still sits outside
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Speaker 2: the RBA's preferred band of to three percent. Now there's
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Speaker 2: a meeting in February. What's going to change, if anything.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in somebody who's got a good iron Old
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Speaker 2: detail sky on whose business editor Ross Greenwood, Ross good
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Speaker 2: news headed in the right direction. Underlying figure still higher
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Speaker 2: than the IBA would like. So how likely is it
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Speaker 2: will see a rate cut in a couple of weeks time.
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Speaker 12: Do you think, Well, it was almost a rush today
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Speaker 12: by economists to try and change their forecast is when
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Speaker 12: the Reserve Bank will cut rates for the first time.
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Speaker 12: The majority of saying now that they'll cut in February,
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Speaker 12: in three weeks time, so they say there's enough evidence
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Speaker 12: of falling inflation, of falling prices to really justify rate
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Speaker 12: cuts coming sooner than even that underlying rate going back
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Speaker 12: between two and three percent. So you can see here
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Speaker 12: before that inflation number today, there was about a two
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Speaker 12: thirds chance according to money market So this is basically,
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Speaker 12: looking at where the money market rates are, a better
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Speaker 12: two thirds chance that there would be a rate cut
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Speaker 12: in February. But as soon as that number dropped, which
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Speaker 12: as you say, came in a two point four percent
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Speaker 12: the headline rate the underlying rate three point two percent,
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Speaker 12: that jumped to seventy five percent. And I can tell
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Speaker 12: you that even just looking at it now, that's even
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Speaker 12: increased further to just under eighty percent. So given the
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Speaker 12: fact that money markets are suggesting that you'd go with
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Speaker 12: the money and suggest that the Reserve Bank most likely
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Speaker 12: will cut rates for just one other little piece of
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Speaker 12: evidence for you that quite clearly inflation is now or high,
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Speaker 12: inflation is now clearly behind us. The last two quarters
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Speaker 12: have delivered inflation of point two of a percent, So
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Speaker 12: if you consider that over the past half year, that's
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Speaker 12: about point four of a percent. If you go forward,
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Speaker 12: you can see that inflation will drop really quite sharply.
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Speaker 12: Now to explain to people, this is not actually prices
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Speaker 12: falling necessarily, but what it means is at least you're
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Speaker 12: not going to get the big increases that you've seen previously.
20:54
Speaker 12: Though in this last quarter there were falls in the
20:57
Speaker 12: price for transportation, that's petrol prices coming down, and also
21:01
Speaker 12: even home building accommodation coming down. That's rent starting to
21:05
Speaker 12: ease off from their very high rates in the past,
21:09
Speaker 12: and education prices they were pretty much flat during this time.
21:12
Speaker 12: So for some key elements for households, certainly the worst
21:17
Speaker 12: of the price rises are behind them. And then if
21:20
Speaker 12: you add on top of that the likelihood that the
21:22
Speaker 12: Reserve Bank will cut rates, there is something relief coming,
21:25
Speaker 12: which is the why you saw the treasurer of today
21:29
Speaker 12: saying it was Cockerhoop about it, saying Australia is in
21:32
Speaker 12: for a soft landing, whereas on the coalition side today
21:35
Speaker 12: basically saying well, look, you know, the pain is still
21:37
Speaker 12: there for the community, and I think that is real.
21:41
Speaker 12: But then you know, sort of it's going to take
21:43
Speaker 12: some time before really many of these big price rises
21:46
Speaker 12: really do start to take away the sting that's been
21:49
Speaker 12: there for the past year and a half or so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll leave it there. I will mention too, that
21:55
Speaker 2: analysis from Deloitte's saying that we'll get you know, we're
21:57
Speaker 2: in tough territory in terms of living standards they predict
22:01
Speaker 2: until twenty thirty, and our rate of government spending is
22:04
Speaker 2: still at record highs. I think all of that's feeding in.
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Speaker 2: I know the governor wants that government spending to come down.
22:10
Speaker 2: I think in an election year that's not going to happen,
22:12
Speaker 2: but we'll see ross. Thank you all. Right after the break,
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Speaker 2: more on what the police are now treating as a
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Speaker 2: terror plot in New South Wales and what we should
22:19
Speaker 2: be seeing at a federal level to stamp this out,
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Speaker 2: plus a bit later on my second report, special report
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Speaker 2: into the reckless Renewables rollout as more farmers open up
22:29
Speaker 2: about the strain Labor is putting them under, welcome back
22:36
Speaker 2: still become my special reporters that visit more farming communities
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Speaker 2: sounding the alarm that not only is our energy at
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Speaker 2: risk under Labour's net zero approach, but also increasingly our
22:47
Speaker 2: food security and country towns. But first, within the last
22:50
Speaker 2: hour of the New Southwest Police Deputy Commissioner announced that
22:53
Speaker 2: they have mobilized the Joint counter Terrorism Team in relation
22:57
Speaker 2: to the shocking revelation that a caravan all of explosives
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Speaker 2: was discovered with intended Jewish targets, including a synagogue contained inside.
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Speaker 2: The Premier has condemned the rising Semitism in his state.
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Speaker 10: The vast majority of people in New South Wales find
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Speaker 10: this behavior are foreign, appalling against all of the values
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Speaker 10: and beliefs that we share in New South Wales, and
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Speaker 10: we will defeat them.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now, Foreign editor at The Australian Greg Sheridan, Greg,
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Speaker 2: this wasn't on our list of topics to talk about tonight,
23:32
Speaker 2: but I can't think of a more important one, to
23:34
Speaker 2: be honest, this evening. We've heard from the Premiere, we've
23:38
Speaker 2: heard from the New South Wales Police. It appears this
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Speaker 2: was discovered ten days or so. We only know it
23:45
Speaker 2: about it now from the Daily Telegraph's perspective. But what
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Speaker 2: do we now need to hear said from the Prime minister.
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Speaker 13: Well, Peter, great to be with you. It's a very
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Speaker 13: very disturbing story. It's a very hard plot to interpret.
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Speaker 13: On its face. It could be a plot that's gone
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Speaker 13: wrong and they've abandoned the explosives. Somebody might have left
24:10
Speaker 13: the explosives there with a note in order that they
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Speaker 13: be discovered and create terror amongst the Jewish community. It's
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Speaker 13: a continuation of this stubborn, persistent, determined, vicious anti Semitism
24:24
Speaker 13: that we're seeing now. As you know, Petter, I think
24:27
Speaker 13: all along the Albanesi government hasn't had a clue what
24:30
Speaker 13: to do about this. I think they certainly want the
24:33
Speaker 13: crisis to go away now. They do anything they could
24:36
Speaker 13: to get out of it, except the things that they
24:38
Speaker 13: need to do. So, first of all, our Prime Minister
24:42
Speaker 13: Alberanesi has always seemed reluctant to treat this as the
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Speaker 13: national crisis that it is. He does denounce anti Semitism now,
24:50
Speaker 13: and that's good, that's good, but he ought to hold
24:53
Speaker 13: in person a national cabinet meeting with every chief minister
24:57
Speaker 13: and premier from the left of the Labour Party to
24:59
Speaker 13: the Conservative National Party to make a full statement to
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Speaker 13: the nation that we utterly denounce this behavior. We love
25:08
Speaker 13: and support and endorse our Jewish community. Secondly, he should hold,
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Speaker 13: as the opposition had demanded, a proper judicial inquiry, why
25:16
Speaker 13: not a royal commission into antisemitism on our universities. This
25:20
Speaker 13: is one of the great engines of anti Semitic hatred
25:24
Speaker 13: in our society. And what an irony that you know,
25:28
Speaker 13: fabulously funded institutions will scared billions upon billions of dollars
25:32
Speaker 13: of government money, and which are meant to be centers
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Speaker 13: of liberal inquiry, are spewing the most disgusting, historic ancient
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Speaker 13: hatred our civilization is known. Now if anything is worth
25:45
Speaker 13: a proper royal commission, it's this, and doesn't matter if
25:49
Speaker 13: it takes a little bit of time, because it's taken
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Speaker 13: a long time for this to build up. And then
25:54
Speaker 13: he should take some lessons from Chris Men's who has
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Speaker 13: been the only labor adult throughout this whole crisis, and
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Speaker 13: Albanizi has never understood that there is a worldwide crisis
26:05
Speaker 13: of antisemitism. There is an Australian crisis of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 13: We've never had any Semitism like this before, and he
26:12
Speaker 13: has to treat it as a first order crisis, a
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Speaker 13: first order measure of government, not something that he just
26:19
Speaker 13: tries to slide away from and hope goes away.
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Speaker 2: And more and more greg it's terrorism, it's potential terrorism threats,
26:29
Speaker 2: it's potential terrorism attacks, it's terrorism assets being developed. If
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Speaker 2: that's what this caravan is, I would want to know
26:39
Speaker 2: that the opposition is being briefed because we're about to
26:42
Speaker 2: hit an election campaign. They are distracting in the extreme
26:45
Speaker 2: for political parties, for governments, for opposition. There could be
26:49
Speaker 2: a change of prime minister, a change of the apparatus,
26:52
Speaker 2: and I want to know that that both sides are
26:55
Speaker 2: being given the courtesy of knowing exactly what's happening out
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Speaker 2: there on the grounds should there be a change of government,
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Speaker 2: that the new incumbents can hit the ground running, that
27:06
Speaker 2: we can be similarly protected. These are some of the
27:09
Speaker 2: things I think the Prime Minister can't dodge. I think
27:11
Speaker 2: now that we know this is out there in the ether,
27:13
Speaker 2: I think he has to front the Cameras and give
27:16
Speaker 2: Australians confidence he has got this in hand.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I agree with you, Peter. I mean a couple
27:24
Speaker 13: of things about that. I absolutely agree. The opposition should
27:27
Speaker 13: be should be brief. This ought to be a big national,
27:30
Speaker 13: bipartisan project.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 13: I don't want to get into the bad books of
27:35
Speaker 13: the ASIA Director General Mike Burgess again, but it does
27:38
Speaker 13: underline the unbelievable foolishness of his comments a few months
27:42
Speaker 13: ago that supporting the ideology of ISIS was okay. Mike
27:45
Speaker 13: Burgers certainly never said supporting anti semitism was okay, but
27:49
Speaker 13: giving some rhetorical support, not supporting the ideology, giving some
27:52
Speaker 13: rhetorical support to Hamas was okay for someone wanting to
27:58
Speaker 13: come into Australia, where as we know, at the heart
28:01
Speaker 13: of Hamas ideology is profound, deeply instilled, putrid anti Semitism,
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Speaker 13: and that's not okay. That's not okay for anyone coming
28:10
Speaker 13: into Australia. The Albanezi government is very upset if you
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Speaker 13: suggest that their foreign policy has contributed to this anti semitism.
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Speaker 13: But undoubtedly one aspect of contemporary anti Semitism arises out
28:25
Speaker 13: of the excessive demonization of Israel. Now, the Alberanesi government,
28:29
Speaker 13: on its own testimony, has voted for resolutions at the
28:33
Speaker 13: United Nations which it found were had contained material that
28:38
Speaker 13: it disagreed with, but which were anti Israel, and which
28:42
Speaker 13: on balance the Albanese government supported in order to increase
28:46
Speaker 13: pressure on Israel. But what that had the effect of
28:49
Speaker 13: doing was to further demonize Israel in the minds of
28:54
Speaker 13: radical activists. And you can't escape the impression that the
29:00
Speaker 13: Green activists and the radical activists within Israel who have
29:04
Speaker 13: been brought up on a diet of anti Semitism. I
29:06
Speaker 13: mean Tania Plivsek repudiated her past position, but she had
29:11
Speaker 13: described a previous Israeli Prime minister as a war criminal.
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Speaker 13: This is kind of the common parlance of the left
29:18
Speaker 13: of the ALP and you have to repudiate this in
29:22
Speaker 13: the way that Bob Hawke repudiated unilateralism and equivocation over
29:27
Speaker 13: the American Alliance. You have to change the labor culture
29:30
Speaker 13: and change the national culture now that we've sunk into
29:33
Speaker 13: the swamp of anti Semitism, and they can't do it.
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Speaker 2: I agree. It'll be a feature of Parliament winner it
29:40
Speaker 2: returns next week. No doubt. Thank you for your time
29:43
Speaker 2: right after break part two my special report. It's a
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Speaker 2: reckless renewables that Labour's forcing on our regions. Welcome back
29:56
Speaker 2: if your correspondence, your contact, your feedbacks, anything to go off.
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Speaker 2: It became clear last week just how widely felt the
30:02
Speaker 2: anger and frustration is with Labour's renewables roll out. Now,
30:07
Speaker 2: last week I was in my old hometalent of wichship
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Speaker 2: Proof in Victoria and over the weekend I went back
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Speaker 2: that way a bit further afield, continuing to visit farmers
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Speaker 2: with similar stories and avow they say to never roll
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Speaker 2: over to Labour's at net zero agenda.
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Speaker 14: We're trying to save the plan and save the country,
30:28
Speaker 14: but we're going to lose so much in the process.
30:30
Speaker 14: So I don't think this net zero concept is going
30:34
Speaker 14: to work.
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Speaker 9: When it started, this never made any environmental sense, it
30:38
Speaker 9: never made any financial sense, and it certainly doesn't make
30:42
Speaker 9: social sense as well. So you know it's not going
30:45
Speaker 9: to be any good for Australia. We've got to stop,
30:47
Speaker 9: start again and get a policy that's going to suit
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Speaker 9: all of Australia for fifty to one hundred to two
30:52
Speaker 9: hundred years time.
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Speaker 15: All of this comes at the expensive agriculture, so it's
30:55
Speaker 15: renewable and expense of their food securitive.
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Speaker 3: Took what one hundred and fifty years of agricu How
31:00
Speaker 3: tough that's been. Mother Nature she's pretty powerful. We've naged
31:03
Speaker 3: to work with a fight with her. We're still here
31:06
Speaker 3: after that. So absolutely we can take on Mother Nature
31:09
Speaker 3: and make a living. We can take on netzero anthy
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Speaker 3: alban easy doesn't matter if we're.
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Speaker 4: Going to win.
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Speaker 2: The date August fifteenth, twenty twenty three, the day when
31:20
Speaker 2: farmers fed up with being ignored, took their fight to
31:23
Speaker 2: the streets in Melbourne. It might have started as a
31:25
Speaker 2: protest against massive new transmission lines said to rip through
31:29
Speaker 2: their land, but it's now about so much more. Flames
31:33
Speaker 2: of bullying and intimidation by government officials, foreign owned wind
31:37
Speaker 2: and solar farms, billions of dollars in subsidies, plus allegations
31:42
Speaker 2: of serious corruption. This is the human face of Labour's
31:46
Speaker 2: reckless march towards a renewables only power grid for Australia.
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Speaker 4: Goodaya, how are you so good? To rich? You in person?
31:55
Speaker 4: It is you too?
31:56
Speaker 3: Come ever a look at this up this way mates,
31:57
Speaker 3: we'll head up here and check out old Fabio.
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Speaker 2: Come on stuff, said farmer Glennon. Watt was the first
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Speaker 2: to alert me to the growing backlash against a new
32:07
Speaker 2: transmission line that will run between Sydney and Melbourne and
32:10
Speaker 2: wipe out thousands of acres of productive farmland in the process.
32:14
Speaker 2: It's a battle. He's even taken to Canberra as the
32:17
Speaker 2: campaign against Labour's destructive renewables agenda builds momentum.
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Speaker 4: When we were fortunate enough to be on your show,
32:26
Speaker 4: it was massive, massive. It was kind of like, you know,
32:28
Speaker 4: finally kicked kicked it into gear. There's someone out there
32:31
Speaker 4: who cares about us like you.
32:33
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate that, and it was kind of like
32:36
Speaker 3: there's hope, you know, there's someone out there who's willing
32:38
Speaker 3: to listen, who's willing to share and willing to go, hey,
32:40
Speaker 3: that isn't right.
32:41
Speaker 4: You guys aren't on your own in this, like you know.
32:43
Speaker 6: So that was huge.
32:43
Speaker 3: When we started with you, I think, yeah, we're getting
32:46
Speaker 3: that momentum. We're getting people united, people are becoming more
32:48
Speaker 3: more aware and the city focus starting to pick up
32:51
Speaker 3: on this green agenda that it's not so clean, it's
32:54
Speaker 3: not so green, that it doesn't make.
32:55
Speaker 4: Sense that you know it doesn't.
32:57
Speaker 3: I'm no engineer, but I can read their report and
32:59
Speaker 3: go this it's just full of contradiction.
33:01
Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't make sense. It's not logical.
33:11
Speaker 2: Glendar and farmers like him, the length and breadth of
33:14
Speaker 2: our country are sounding the alarm on the damaging reality
33:17
Speaker 2: of Labour's headlong march to net zero, forcing the entire
33:21
Speaker 2: nation to switch from a reliable and affordable baseload power
33:25
Speaker 2: coal gas potentially nuclear, to expensive and quite frankly unreliable
33:30
Speaker 2: green energy. It's these massive wind and solar farms that
33:34
Speaker 2: risk forcing farmers off the land and farming communities to
33:38
Speaker 2: the point of extinction. And here's why. As coal fired
33:44
Speaker 2: power stations are decommissioned, we'll need a staggering twenty eight
33:49
Speaker 2: thousand kilometers of new and upgraded transmission lines to transport
33:54
Speaker 2: the power generated by wind and solar to our big cities.
34:00
Speaker 2: Estimated cost right now it's more than half a trillion dollars.
34:05
Speaker 2: And if you think it's only the farmers who'll get
34:08
Speaker 2: hit here, think again. In the end, will all bear
34:12
Speaker 2: the cost as it gets passed on to our power bills.
34:16
Speaker 3: They just go where it's easy for them to go
34:18
Speaker 3: to try and infiltrate and conquer and divide and try
34:22
Speaker 3: and conquer it. But the tactics, it's not country tactics
34:26
Speaker 3: on Australian tactics.
34:27
Speaker 4: It's just dirty communism. Like it's just horrible.
34:31
Speaker 2: What about police? If police been involved?
34:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, so police have been involved.
34:35
Speaker 3: And once again it's kind of like, you know, if
34:37
Speaker 3: I was to bring a gun to this interview, what
34:38
Speaker 3: would you think you'd be kind of you know, you
34:40
Speaker 3: take a step back and go holy, you know, smoke.
34:42
Speaker 3: So why a TCV bringing police to the interviews while
34:44
Speaker 3: they're bringing security to a community consultation, Like, it's just
34:48
Speaker 3: sending the wrong in my opinion, it sends the wrong
34:50
Speaker 3: tone from day one. We're farmers, we're not fighters, not
34:55
Speaker 3: going to hurt anyone. We want information and we're there
34:57
Speaker 3: to seek information.
34:59
Speaker 2: Accusations of underhand tactics, bullying and corruption with something I
35:04
Speaker 2: heard time and time again as we spoke to locals
35:08
Speaker 2: right across the region, including this from sixth generation farmer
35:12
Speaker 2: Ben Duckson from nearby Kenyon.
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Speaker 9: The dirty tactics are happening. They're happening all the time
35:20
Speaker 9: with land Liaison officers picking off vulnerable people and all
35:23
Speaker 9: that sort of stuff. So we can see their tactics.
35:26
Speaker 9: They're doing it and from day dott they've never conceded
35:29
Speaker 9: that this project might go on ahead. It's all about
35:32
Speaker 9: how it's going to go ahead in their eyes and
35:34
Speaker 9: that and we've.
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Speaker 3: Always pushed back the tactics of the bureaucrats and the
35:38
Speaker 3: officials is there.
35:40
Speaker 4: You know that that's the old buffalo there.
35:42
Speaker 3: You know, they cut the weakest from the herd and
35:43
Speaker 3: attack it first because they can gang up and attack
35:45
Speaker 3: and kill one individual for example. So the bureaucrats are saying,
35:49
Speaker 3: they come in and they try and find the weakest
35:51
Speaker 3: links in the community to pull them away and effectively,
35:54
Speaker 3: you know, not brainwash, but you know they come with me,
35:56
Speaker 3: let's sign you up here and get the money today.
35:58
Speaker 3: You know, it's all sort of undermining, underlying dirty you know,
36:02
Speaker 3: they're bullying techniques.
36:05
Speaker 2: Last week in which you proof farmers told me that
36:08
Speaker 2: government officials had called the police on them, even though
36:11
Speaker 2: it was the officials who were on the farmer's land.
36:14
Speaker 2: They told me about so called consultation meetings now flanked
36:18
Speaker 2: by security guards. And it appears that these intimidation tactics
36:23
Speaker 2: were happening.
36:24
Speaker 4: Here too, and it's terrible.
36:26
Speaker 3: It's you know, I think that that self says a
36:29
Speaker 3: lot about how they operate and what they're trying to do.
36:31
Speaker 3: And if it were so such a good project, they
36:33
Speaker 3: wouldn't need to be trying to cut people off and
36:36
Speaker 3: do tactics in undermine. They'd be able to sit in
36:38
Speaker 3: front of us, have a chat with us all and
36:40
Speaker 3: everyone go.
36:40
Speaker 2: It'd be self evident that it was a good.
36:42
Speaker 4: Thing, absolutely exactly.
36:43
Speaker 3: And if it was self evident, there'd be no need
36:45
Speaker 3: to have any of these rubbis should know police, there
36:47
Speaker 3: be no undermining tactics that we know, cutting people out,
36:49
Speaker 3: you know, contracts with disclaimers. It would be just a
36:51
Speaker 3: conversation like this and just say this is what we're
36:53
Speaker 3: going to do, this is how, this is why, answer questions.
36:57
Speaker 4: Let's move forward.
36:58
Speaker 9: We gathered as much information and I think we've got
37:00
Speaker 9: to the stage where we've unpacked a lot of information
37:04
Speaker 9: out there about this energy plan and we know it's
37:06
Speaker 9: no good. It's no good for Australia and it's certainly
37:08
Speaker 9: no good for us as farmers out this area. But
37:10
Speaker 9: consultation is non existent with us.
37:14
Speaker 14: They're deplorable. It's not negotiating at all. Let's please come
37:17
Speaker 14: in and let's have a meeting, and we'll listen, and
37:20
Speaker 14: we will do nothing with your feedback. We've been at
37:22
Speaker 14: these guys for nearly two years and nothing we've done
37:25
Speaker 14: has changed their stance, their plans.
37:28
Speaker 4: Tess is just.
37:29
Speaker 2: The sort of young farmer that we desperately need to
37:33
Speaker 2: keep on the land. But at her family place just
37:36
Speaker 2: outside of Rapunya in northwestern Victoria, she's fighting against a
37:41
Speaker 2: massive foreign owned wind farm that's to be built against
37:45
Speaker 2: her fence line. She's angry. The taxpayers will spend billions
37:49
Speaker 2: to subsidize these massive turbines, and when the foreign company
37:53
Speaker 2: leaves after twenty years or so, what's left will cost
37:57
Speaker 2: upwards of half a million dollars per turbine to decommission
38:02
Speaker 2: across The foreign company won't pay, but farmers can't afford either.
38:08
Speaker 6: We've had legal advice to that effect. But there'll be
38:11
Speaker 6: shell companies and when the time comes to decommission, there'll
38:13
Speaker 6: be no money to do so. And whatever you've made
38:17
Speaker 6: with hosting wouldn't never be enough to pay for the
38:20
Speaker 6: decommissioning yourself, which I think is conservatively at six hundred.
38:24
Speaker 2: K per turbine, six hundred thousand dollars per turbine, and
38:28
Speaker 2: that's quite conservative. And when you think of the scale
38:31
Speaker 2: of them, I mean nearly three hundred meters tall, and
38:35
Speaker 2: enormous blades, enormous engines, all the fire risks. We know
38:38
Speaker 2: about that, But how do even decommission something like that
38:42
Speaker 2: in a rural talent?
38:43
Speaker 14: This crane's and diesel and dig a hole and bury it.
38:46
Speaker 14: It's best I can tell. It's currently what's getting built
38:49
Speaker 14: isn't recyclable.
38:51
Speaker 2: This farming land in northwest Victoria is just the latest
38:54
Speaker 2: example of the sheer madness of Labour's renewables obsession. Prime
38:58
Speaker 2: agricultural land is droid to make way for one hundred
39:01
Speaker 2: and forty five massive wind turbines, each of them standing
39:06
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty meters high. Now what's hard for
39:09
Speaker 2: this community to comprehend is that none of this green
39:13
Speaker 2: power is for them. They don't even benefit. It's all
39:17
Speaker 2: center the cities. And yet they will wear the brunt
39:19
Speaker 2: of it as it risks forcing generations of farmers off
39:23
Speaker 2: the land.
39:25
Speaker 9: As a farming community, we've got a lot of fights
39:27
Speaker 9: in our hands. To be able to just do the
39:29
Speaker 9: practices we're going to do and feed and clothe the world,
39:32
Speaker 9: which is what we want to do. We want to
39:34
Speaker 9: do it with as minimal red tape as possible. We've
39:36
Speaker 9: always conformed to regulations as well. It's never been an issue.
39:40
Speaker 9: And if this was good for Australia, we'd have no
39:43
Speaker 9: problem signing up to it. It'd be fantastic if it's
39:45
Speaker 9: great for the whole energy consumption in Australia and industry
39:50
Speaker 9: in Australia. But we know it's actually not and it's corrupt.
39:53
Speaker 9: It's overseas companies coming in profiteering out of it, taking
39:56
Speaker 9: our money offshore, and we can't get a stable system
39:59
Speaker 9: with this system of going.
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Speaker 2: These transmission lines and renewable projects won't just destroy farms
40:05
Speaker 2: and it impose heavy costs on consumers, they also bring
40:09
Speaker 2: significant bushfire risk. As explained to me by local CFA
40:14
Speaker 2: Captain Peter Knights.
40:16
Speaker 15: We've seen plenty of footage of winterbines when they fall
40:20
Speaker 15: apart or their machinery, so ultimately there are a lot
40:23
Speaker 15: of moving parts and a ton of oil up there,
40:26
Speaker 15: so if if things go astray, there's plenty of I
40:30
Speaker 15: suppose expectation that if that goes wrong, it's going to
40:32
Speaker 15: be fire. So I guess it's like any other fire.
40:36
Speaker 15: We'll need to want to deal with it because it's
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Speaker 15: if it starts here, it'll finish somewhere else, so we'll
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Speaker 15: still need to manage it because it'll finish on somebody
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Speaker 15: else's properties.
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Speaker 2: Peter Knights has taken the extraordinary step of writing to
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Speaker 2: the Victorian government warning them about the bushfire risk. It
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Speaker 2: says the government refuses to take any responsibility, instead expecting
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Speaker 2: local volunteers like him to put their lives on the
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Speaker 2: line while they prioritize their net zero agenda. It is
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Speaker 2: also alive to the ESG or environmental report card focus
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Speaker 2: of the big corporates.
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Speaker 15: They need this renewable energy to get an easy tick
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Speaker 15: so they can cover the red spots on their record
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Speaker 15: report card if you like, you know, if you'll go at
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Speaker 15: a color coated est report, you know they want a
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Speaker 15: big green tick on the renewable energy and climate change
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Speaker 15: and absolutely not. It all comes to the expense of
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Speaker 15: particularly our community and the people that are here, and
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Speaker 15: we're very fond of it, and we're very fond of
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Speaker 15: the people that are here, so we want to keep
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Speaker 15: it that way. But we've got to be careful that
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Speaker 15: all of this comes at the expensive agriculture and you know,
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Speaker 15: so it's renewable energy at the expense of f food
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Speaker 15: security and our ability to produce food.
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Speaker 2: And it's the hit on taxpayers that also concerns farmers
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Speaker 2: like Alex.
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Speaker 6: There's no money in turbines unless you're the proponent, So
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Speaker 6: millions and millions billions in subsidies. The only people winning
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Speaker 6: are the foreign investors. And it's the same for the
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Speaker 6: Campbell's Bridge project.
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Speaker 2: How does it make you feel as a local who's
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Speaker 2: been on the land for a long time.
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Speaker 6: Yes, it's devastating. Just feels like we're under siege and
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Speaker 6: that our agriculture industry isn't valued. The money we put
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Speaker 6: in and the work we do isn't actually value by
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Speaker 6: the labor government in Australia.
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Speaker 2: A point echoed by Ben duckson.
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Speaker 9: So there's a money grab going on here. Victoria's broke,
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Speaker 9: they've got no money. They're coming out here and trying
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Speaker 9: to railroad and bully us into accepting this program. And
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Speaker 9: it's not We're not going to put up with it.
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Speaker 9: There's no way that we are going to sit down
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Speaker 9: and lie down and take this just sitting back and
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Speaker 9: doing nothing. We've rallied the troops. Everyone is up for
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Speaker 9: the fight now.
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Speaker 2: The more I drove around northwestern Victoria, the more I
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Speaker 2: found farmers and locals who read the reports, had gone
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Speaker 2: to the meetings and discovered just how little they mattered
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Speaker 2: in Labour's pushed to net zero and they're desperate need
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Speaker 2: for green votes in the city.
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Speaker 6: It's creating further pressure on electricity bills with all the
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Speaker 6: transmission and the subsidies. But yet we haven't been able
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Speaker 6: to get any traction with that argument yet, but we'll
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Speaker 6: keep trying.
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Speaker 2: Frustrated, angry and ignored, Ben Duckson held organize a group
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Speaker 2: of local farmers to confront Victorian Premier just Into Allen
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Speaker 2: at a rally in Bendigo last year.
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Speaker 9: We've got over ninety five percent of people signed up
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Speaker 9: saying they don't want anything to do with it, and
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Speaker 9: we've told them, We've repeatedly told them that that's the case.
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Speaker 9: We do not want anything to do with this. And
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Speaker 9: by unpacking the plan, the whole energy plan that the
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Speaker 9: Labor government's trying to implement, we've found out that the
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Speaker 9: corruption's big, the money's too big into it as well,
43:43
Speaker 9: and we're not putting it up up for it. We're
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Speaker 9: sticking up for ourselves, but we're sticking up for the
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Speaker 9: rest of Australia energy costs and food sustainability and availability
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Speaker 9: into the future.
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Speaker 2: For these special reports, I've traveled hundreds of kilometers extraordinary
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Speaker 2: and inspirational locals, people fighting for their future, their children's future,
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Speaker 2: and they say Australia's too. They are living a nightmare
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Speaker 2: of a reckless push to net zero born out of
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Speaker 2: political dogma, not good sense or even engineering reality. If
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Speaker 2: this goes ahead, the financial costs will be crippling. Taxpayer
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Speaker 2: billions even trillions, all borrowed money used to subsidize foreign companies,
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Speaker 2: to tear up our farmland, devastate country towns, and jeopardize
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Speaker 2: our agricultural sector that helps us pay our way in
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Speaker 2: the world.
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Speaker 4: And for what.
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Speaker 2: All the sacrifices these farmers will be forced to make
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Speaker 2: won't make a scrap of difference, given Australia is less
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Speaker 2: than one percent of the global emissions problem. If any
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Speaker 2: politician thinks these communities are going to roll over or
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Speaker 2: they're dead wrong, This fight has a long way to go.
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Speaker 2: These people aren't mucking around. They're fighting to survive with
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Speaker 2: everything they've got. Can you win?
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Speaker 14: I reckon So, Yeah, there's too many of us and
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Speaker 14: we care too much to let it go. I think
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Speaker 14: there's every chance that the pushback's going to turn the
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Speaker 14: tides for us. But it's going to be a long
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Speaker 14: one and it's going to hurt in a lot of
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Speaker 14: ways to get there.
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Speaker 4: But I think I think so wouldn't do it if
45:24
Speaker 4: we couldn't.
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Speaker 14: Actually, we probably would still fight even if we couldn't win.
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Speaker 4: It's just not right.
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Speaker 14: So we'll be fighting the whole way.
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Speaker 2: Well, my regional brothers and sisters, I'll be coming to
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Speaker 2: a town near you. I'm not going to give up
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Speaker 2: this fight, and I want to tell you too, a
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Speaker 2: lot of my viewers in the city are behind you
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Speaker 2: as well. Now I'm putting together these special reports, I'm
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Speaker 2: indebted to the research and support of the IPA, the
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Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs. The IPA gets Regional Australia. It
45:52
Speaker 2: understands it's the heartland of the nation. It feeds us,
45:56
Speaker 2: keeps the lights on, It generates our wealth and helps
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Speaker 2: us pay our way in the world, doesn't it Well?
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Speaker 2: The IPA want to stand with these communities against net
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Speaker 2: zero and the policies that labor is employing that all
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Speaker 2: dry farmers off their lounds. If you live in regional
46:10
Speaker 2: Australia and you want to be part of the campaign
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Speaker 2: for a common sense energy policy for this country, please
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Speaker 2: join the IPA. On the back of these special reports
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Speaker 2: and your interest in the issue. There's a bit of
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Speaker 2: a membership deal for those in the heartland of Australia.
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Speaker 2: Head to the IPA's website. The details are there on
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Speaker 2: the screen. Join up or head to my Instagram page
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Speaker 2: for more details too. All right after the break, a
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Speaker 2: bet of a gearshift better? Heavy night? Hasn't it up? Next?
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Speaker 2: Kel Richards joining me as he does every Wednesday, Wordsmith
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Speaker 2: and broadcast extraordinary. Kel Richards, Well, Cal, we've got some
46:46
Speaker 2: good ones for us tonight. Darryl, have you a Daryl
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Speaker 2: wants to know the source of the expression basket case.
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Speaker 2: He says he's heard it referred to in relation to
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Speaker 2: the Victorian economy. He's not wrong. It's a basketcase in
46:59
Speaker 2: the Victoria. Where's the word come from? Where's the phrase
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Speaker 2: come from?
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Speaker 16: Oh, it's an interesting one from America from nineteen eighteen,
47:06
Speaker 16: and there was a story that soldiers who were injured
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Speaker 16: in the trenches in the First World War and lost
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Speaker 16: all four limbs were put in a basket instead of
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Speaker 16: on a stretcher. Now, it almost certainly was never true,
47:20
Speaker 16: so the Oxford Dictionary comments, any soldier who lost all
47:24
Speaker 16: four limbs and needed quadruple amputation wouldn't have survived the
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Speaker 16: original injuries, let alone the surgery. So it was never true.
47:31
Speaker 16: But the rumor was so widespread it gave birth to
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Speaker 16: this expression, which is a horrible expression when you understand it,
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Speaker 16: basket case.
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Speaker 2: I thought I might have had something to do with
47:42
Speaker 2: a guillotine and the head coming off and falling into
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Speaker 2: a basket. But I have to say that's even worse.
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Speaker 4: Hey, you nue much.
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Speaker 2: And my mother used to say this to me quite
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Speaker 2: a bit. Pigs might fly. Stephanie wants to know where
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Speaker 2: that expression comes from.
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Speaker 16: Just an expression of skepticism. It's English from eighteen thirty four,
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Speaker 16: and it's just something very unlikely to happen. I've got
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Speaker 16: to say that the funniest of pg Woodhouses, Wonderful Blandings
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Speaker 16: Castle novels is called pigs have wings, and that was
48:10
Speaker 16: once a variant. It was another way of saying pigs
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Speaker 16: might fly. So instead of saying pigs might fly, is
48:15
Speaker 16: that pigs have wings. It's just that kind of expression.
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Speaker 2: I have seen overseas, sometimes a little mobile to hang
48:24
Speaker 2: off the roof of a pig with wings. I've always
48:26
Speaker 2: thought to get one of those from Mum. Anyway, Win
48:28
Speaker 2: wants to know the origins of come.
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Speaker 16: Up, and from America again from the mid eighteen hundreds.
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Speaker 16: My guess is it was coined by backwoodsmen. What it
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Speaker 16: means is justice, proper justice or retribution is coming. That's
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Speaker 16: what come up means. And I think it was coined
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Speaker 16: by American backwoodsman who had a fairly shaky grasp of
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Speaker 16: the English language and wanted to say this is what's
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Speaker 16: coming up for you. And they appear to have coined
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Speaker 16: come ups.
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Speaker 8: All right.
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Speaker 2: As I often say, our viewers are some of our
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Speaker 2: best researchers. Donna has given us some good examples to
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Speaker 2: put in the brain in relation to the difference between
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Speaker 2: I and me.
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Speaker 16: Okay, the best way to do it is to just
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Speaker 16: test it. Do you say, Billy and I went to
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Speaker 16: the movies or billion me went to the movies. Drop out, Billy.
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Speaker 16: Do you say I went to the movies or me
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Speaker 16: went to the movies? That will tell you which first
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Speaker 16: person personal pronoun is the subject of the verb. Do
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Speaker 16: you say, at the end, give the lollies to billion
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Speaker 16: ME or billion I? Drop out, Billy, Give the lollies
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Speaker 16: to me, give the lotties to I. That's the test.
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Speaker 16: It will tell you which is the correct personal pronoun.
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Speaker 16: Every time.
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Speaker 2: You make it so easy, we'll make no more mistakes now,
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Kelsey. Next week, here's Andrew