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Islam and the State of Texas · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday, speaking of something that's been around for thousands
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  Speaker 1: of years. I just finished reading an article in the
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  Speaker 1: New York Times that they did a deep dive about
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  Speaker 1: Islama for what they call islama phobia's rise in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: And then the article is all about how Muslim communities
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  Speaker 1: have been growing in Texas for decades now. Conservatives essentially
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  Speaker 1: want to roll up the welcome that this is a
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  Speaker 1: tough issue. This is a real tough one, and I
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  Speaker 1: think you and I both approach this with the proper
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  Speaker 1: amount of caution and discernment that must be used, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, it starts with a debate about whether Islam
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  Speaker 1: is even a religion. And look, the Justice Department has said, look,
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  Speaker 1: it isn't. Plainly it's a religion. It is absolute. But
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get pushback on that, and I will too.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that, and I agree with you. But there
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  Speaker 1: are people who are going to say, no, it's not. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not it's an ideology.
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  Speaker 2: It is in a way a political filosophy, which guess
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  Speaker 2: what it is, which it absolutely is two things ruture
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  Speaker 2: at the same time. I mean, the definition of a
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  Speaker 2: religion is having thoughts about our creation thoughts about the afterlife,
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  Speaker 2: guidance on how to live your life. Of course, it's
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  Speaker 2: a religion, but it has a political, secular, political element,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to call it. That's the one that
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  Speaker 2: everybody's all concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So with that in mind, what do we do
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  Speaker 1: with the expansion of mosques and communities?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And the New York Times puts it in perspective, and
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  Speaker 1: of course you got to take this with a grain
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  Speaker 1: of salt. It's the New York Times, so I get it.
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  Speaker 1: They've got an agenda. But their point, basically is what
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  Speaker 1: are you supposed to do with the thousands of men,
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  Speaker 1: women and children who practice and that particular faith. They
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  Speaker 1: quoted one statewide Republican candidate Bo French, who wrote on
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  Speaker 1: social media this summer, I won't rest until every Muslim
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  Speaker 1: is gone. Well that's not particularly helpful, it seems to me.
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  Speaker 1: On the other hand, you got these massive compounds, what
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  Speaker 1: was it epic city? Yep, that I mean, and it's
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  Speaker 1: and it's a it's a battlefield right now. It's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a real real interesting uh peace. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know for people who say, well, it's an invasion and look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned. I've seen the video from Dearborn, Michigan. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen what it looks like. In parts of the UK,
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  Speaker 1: there are communities that are essentially have been sort of commandeered.
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  Speaker 2: We're lost, they are lost. Well, what this is? What
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  Speaker 2: Islamic culture does? It arrives and it spreads and it
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  Speaker 2: takes over, and Texas is saying, hell, no, Well.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do about it? But how do you
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  Speaker 1: how do you keep prevent a takeover?
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  Speaker 2: How do you do that lawfully?
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  Speaker 1: How do you know what? I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly the right question? I don't know who I had
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Keith self famously a few days ago, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there thinking, as we're talking about this, or
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  Speaker 2: are we at the point where a moss band is
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  Speaker 2: on the table and you've had some good thoughts about
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  Speaker 2: whether you want to float that weeks before the mid terms,
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  Speaker 2: whether that wins you over independence or is it just
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  Speaker 2: something that is a survival tactic. And I asked him,
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  Speaker 2: I said, can you imagine, with the views that you
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  Speaker 2: have about the dangers that Islamism poses and the inability
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  Speaker 2: to tell the good ones from the bad ones? Pardon
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  Speaker 2: that usage, can you envision a new mosque application that
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  Speaker 2: you think is okay, And he said I cannot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, Well that's a mosque band, So that's a
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  Speaker 1: mosque ban that's essentially banning any additional mosques. So then
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  Speaker 1: I'm back to or where do all these people worship?
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  Speaker 1: How can you deprive somebody of a right to have
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  Speaker 1: a house of worship? You're going to do that to
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  Speaker 1: a Christian. You're going to do that to a Jew?
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  Speaker 1: You can you know that's a false equivalency. Well, why
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  Speaker 1: do you keep saying that because Christians are trying to
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  Speaker 1: kill us? It isn't a But tell that to a
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  Speaker 1: Muslim family who's not trying to kill us, and that's
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  Speaker 1: not fair. No, you're the one that took a while
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  Speaker 1: to arrive. You sit here, the Jews of the grid.
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  Speaker 1: There is no other religion with a track record of death.
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  Speaker 2: And there is no other there's no comparison that can
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  Speaker 2: be made. However, but if.
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  Speaker 1: You agree that Islam is a religion and you're in
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  Speaker 1: the business of banning houses of worship for that religion,
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  Speaker 1: that's a problem because again, imagine the outrage of somebody
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  Speaker 1: declared war on Christianity in some community and said we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna let.
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  Speaker 2: You have a church. Correct, even though that is different,
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  Speaker 2: your point still stands completely. And that's where they get
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  Speaker 2: to and it does, and that's where we get to, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of constitutional protection is there, and when we're
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  Speaker 2: not talking about anybody not being able to worship as
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  Speaker 2: they wish or whatever whatever. But the Koran is tricky.
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  Speaker 2: It does say kill the infidels. The Koran is tricky.
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  Speaker 2: It does contain honor killings. The Koran is tricky. So
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  Speaker 2: the Muslims who don't want to kill us in, the
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  Speaker 2: Muslims who aren't going to do honor killings, and the
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  Speaker 2: Muslims whon't want to take over our culture are kind
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  Speaker 2: of practicing a light, lucy, goosey Swiss cheese brand of Islam,
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  Speaker 2: which happens all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at look at the ongoing dialogue I've
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  Speaker 1: had for years, including my friend Dennis Prager, when we
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  Speaker 1: wonder why are American Jews voting for you know, complete
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  Speaker 1: anti semi lunatics. Yep, because many American Jews are not
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  Speaker 1: particularly good Jews, to use a clumsy expression, they're not well,
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  Speaker 1: they're secular. They're secular, you know, they're not particular Orthodox
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  Speaker 1: Jews don't support this lunacy on the far left. Religious
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  Speaker 1: Jews are absolutely mortified at the direction of the Democrat Party,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, secular Jews not so much. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really care about my Judaism that much. So that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what you're saying about the islam faith that that
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  Speaker 1: people who are maybe not particularly because look, I saw
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  Speaker 1: pictures in this article as an extensive article, and it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's worth a read. It's like five different columnists
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  Speaker 1: put it together. Writers Islamophobia's rise in Texas. They profile
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  Speaker 1: a guy named Gulam Kahar from Irving. He rose before
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  Speaker 1: dawn in early June to attend the day's first prayer
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  Speaker 1: at his local mosque and Irving before heading off for
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  Speaker 1: a month's long deployment in the US Coast Guard, he
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  Speaker 1: had been So here you go. He's got a guy
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  Speaker 1: serving his country. He's in the Coast Guard, and he's
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  Speaker 1: worried about leaving his family behind because what he feels
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  Speaker 1: is the rise of Islamophobia in Irving, and for Muslims
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  Speaker 1: coming to Texas, that's the promised land, better jobs, good lifestyle,
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  Speaker 1: quality of life. We're in an open welcoming attitude towards
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  Speaker 1: their beliefs until now you know, now it's like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, we're going to put the brakes on this.
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  Speaker 1: You got Abbot who's pushing back, and a Republican consultant said, well,
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  Speaker 1: the reason Abbot's pushing back is he doesn't do anything
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  Speaker 1: that is holling driven. He always does things based on
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  Speaker 1: polls and it's popular right now, I guess to push
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  Speaker 1: back against this whole so called invasion, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's a and with good reason, it's possible with God.
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  Speaker 2: And yet you are one hundred percent solid on what
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  Speaker 2: can we do, what would what, what's going to hold
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  Speaker 2: up in the courts, what seems reasonable to a reasonable person.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know this going anywhere, So well, welcome
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  Speaker 2: to you know, the continuing debate with this, for it's
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  Speaker 2: a great debate.
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  Speaker 2: you what, Austin did some some really obnoxious stuff. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: in that case, it's okay for him to be stabbed.
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  Speaker 2: That logic does not fly. But it all became just
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  Speaker 1: But I but I will say that if your girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: feels like he was, you know, stalking her and violently,
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  Speaker 1: and I would think that's germane. He was obsessed with knives,
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  Speaker 1: he said, he said he sent a picture of a
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  Speaker 1: knife to his ex girlfriend and said this is before
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  Speaker 1: he killed Austin Metcalf. I'm low I'm low key on
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  Speaker 1: the verge. I'm low key on the verge. And that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a lot. The jury never heard that. The jury
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  Speaker 1: never knew about this. And ps, that's the guy the
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  Speaker 2: System hexans just don't get justice. We didn't. System is broken.
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  Speaker 1: System is broken. And he was a victim.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't have any black jurors.
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  Speaker 1: My gosh. And and now I guess you've probably seen
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  Speaker 1: the Cook Report, pretty influential pollster. I know it's now
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  Speaker 1: a toss up between tall Rico and Ken Paxton.
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  Speaker 2: Was lean Republican. No, it's toss up in the governor's race.
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  Speaker 2: They went from solid red to lean red. They're there,
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  Speaker 2: they are, They're smoking the crack of these wacky poles
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  Speaker 2: of the moment and.
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  Speaker 1: Better work hard though we better not let down fighting,
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  Speaker 1: push through and fight hard. Enjoy the weekend. I love you.
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