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- 0:09Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff. What is going on,
- 0:41Speaker 1: Shippen Nation YouTube station?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Back after Ham woke up from his nap, the old
- 0:46Speaker 2: bag over here was thinking it was 5.30. He didn't
- 0:50Speaker 2: set his alarm, so here we are. We're coming on
- 0:52Speaker 2: late as Ham had to take a nap, take out
- 0:55Speaker 2: his dentures. I don't know what's going on over there,
- 0:58Speaker 2: but hey.
- 0:59Speaker 1: We're back.
- 0:59Speaker 2: We're ready to rip, and let me pull up because
- 1:03Speaker 2: we've got our guy sweating the milly out in the 555,
- 1:05Speaker 2: and he's still... In first place, as it stands right now, MSP45.
- 1:12Speaker 2: I'm assuming got these off of tickets here, Ham. Three
- 1:17Speaker 2: shots in the 555 milli. And Dusty Aaron Rodgers. Dusty
- 1:23Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he's sweating it out. He's live from the
- 1:27Speaker 2: Minnesota Wild game right now. So good luck to MSP
- 1:31Speaker 2: on three tickets in this 555. Sweating out the milli
- 1:34Speaker 2: right now. But I'll bring you in, man. Glad to
- 1:37Speaker 2: have you never. I mean, better late than never, but
- 1:41Speaker 2: what's going on brother.
- 1:41Speaker 1: How are you?
- 1:42Speaker 3: Better late than never. Yeah. Your boy ham.
- 1:44Speaker 4: I was thinking the show started at five 30 central
- 1:47Speaker 4: in the lab, trying to draw up some winners and
- 1:51Speaker 4: nades over here.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Ask me where I'm at. I'm like, well, I'm here.
- 1:55Speaker 3: I'm here now.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I'm sweating this Millie out for sure. Sweating these Rams.
- 1:58Speaker 4: These Rams about to go to what? Two and four nades, man.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Oh man. Man. That would not be good. Kenneth Walker
- 2:06Speaker 3: doing Kenneth Walker things.
- 2:07Speaker 4: That guy's good at football PS and Dalton Kincaid is not,
- 2:12Speaker 4: not your friend right now.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Is he after that holding call? Yeah.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I mean, just what a joke.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I mean, anytime I'm in position to have a fucking
- 2:22Speaker 2: good day, I just get shit called back this and that.
- 2:27Speaker 1: But Hey, can't be close. You can't close unless you're close, right?
- 2:32Speaker 1: Shut up there. I got Tambo out there.
- 2:33Speaker 2: So, We've got our guy Sean Sully in here, Flip Flop,
- 2:35Speaker 2: Philly Phantom, Rance, everybody tuning in as we sweat out
- 2:40Speaker 2: some of these contests. Let's take a look over here
- 2:43Speaker 2: at the $ 20 Millie and Tyler Shuck as it stands
- 2:48Speaker 2: right now. But he looks like he's going to get
- 2:50Speaker 2: passed here with the Kenneth Walker, the Chiefs, the Chiefs
- 2:55Speaker 2: three bag hold here with Worley Walker and Chiefs.
- 2:59Speaker 1: See Max Miss here in this $ 20 Millie. Um, don't
- 3:04Speaker 1: really know. I mean, BP's a pretty solid player.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Um, don't really know anyone else, but the big one
- 3:11Speaker 2: right now is the, uh, our guy over here, three,
- 3:14Speaker 2: three tickets.
- 3:16Speaker 3: He's fading.
- 3:18Speaker 1: He's fading. Genty, uh, for sure. For sure. Gent, genty, um, worthy. He, he,
- 3:27Speaker 1: he pretty is fading pretty much everyone, but Kenneth Walker.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Um, So, yeah, that's what's going on right now as
- 3:37Speaker 2: the Cardinals here are in the red zone here. And, hey, wow,
- 3:41Speaker 2: at least they throw the ball to Trey McBride, unlike
- 3:43Speaker 2: the Vegas throwing the ball to fucking Brock Bowers.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Wild stuff, Ham, right? Ham, you know, we're both businessmen, right?
- 3:51Speaker 1: We got the real-life job as well.
- 3:52Speaker 2: We do this fantasy stuff on the side here because
- 3:55Speaker 2: obviously we love it. And we do it as a
- 3:59Speaker 2: pastime here anyways, as kind of a hobby.
- 4:01Speaker 1: But, man. in the real life world, would you ever
- 4:06Speaker 1: best salesperson, whatever, right? You got a goal to meet.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Would you just say, Hey, no, go ahead. Mr.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Top salesman, go ahead and sit down. We don't need
- 4:14Speaker 2: you this month, right? We don't need this month. We
- 4:16Speaker 2: got these big super stretch goals coming up. Go ahead
- 4:19Speaker 2: and just take a seat, right? You're you, you got
- 4:21Speaker 2: this month off, go on vacation. You think that would happen?
- 4:24Speaker 2: I mean, it's just shocking that these NFL football teams
- 4:27Speaker 2: don't use their best players. Um, especially when their backs
- 4:31Speaker 2: are against the wall. But any thoughts on that? It's
- 4:34Speaker 2: just absolutely crazy.
- 4:35Speaker 4: Get him a slip screen. Get him a tight end screen.
- 4:38Speaker 4: Get him a tight end delay if they're doubling him.
- 4:40Speaker 4: But you got to get 89 in the football. Wide
- 4:42Speaker 4: receiver 140. He's a beast.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I mean, Michael Mayer's out there cutting up. We just
- 4:46Speaker 3: got a Bills pick, by the way. Kenneth Walker. I
- 4:50Speaker 3: want my boy to get in there and get a
- 4:51Speaker 3: touchdown for Kenny. But, yeah, you got to get him
- 4:54Speaker 3: the ball, man. And someone put it in the chat.
- 4:57Speaker 4: I mean, Puka's doing nothing. uh London did basically nothing
- 5:01Speaker 4: and then where's my guy Philly family boosted Walker and
- 5:05Speaker 4: then took B B B John down and man B
- 5:08Speaker 4: John just wasn't it today neither was that but man
- 5:11Speaker 4: it's been a good day it's uh Rodgers like man
- 5:16Speaker 4: I didn't watch much of that game Nades I don't
- 5:18Speaker 4: know if you did I was watching uh other games
- 5:20Speaker 4: and slowly but surely he just kept peppering Bernard and
- 5:25Speaker 4: Metcalf with, like, three-yard dump-offs, and obviously it racked up,
- 5:29Speaker 4: and then Bernard got in there in OT, and our
- 5:33Speaker 4: boy's getting hot right now in first place, so good
- 5:35Speaker 4: for him.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Go, K-9.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Oh.
- 5:39Speaker 3: K-9.
- 5:39Speaker 2: K-9 a little short. Yeah, this was the team right here.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Let me go to this one, I think.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I can't believe Tyler Shuck does in first place in
- 5:50Speaker 3: the 20. I know he's going to get passed.
- 5:52Speaker 2: I mean, look at this. This is a smaller field,
- 5:56Speaker 2: like three max, I think. Yeah, $ 3, 100, $ 15, three max.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Kincaid, and Shakir, right? I mean, Kincaid just
- 6:05Speaker 2: had what? That was like a 30-yard touchdown. Just wiped
- 6:08Speaker 2: off the board on some bullshit-ass holding on fourth and two.
- 6:11Speaker 2: So hopefully we can tilt their way into the promised
- 6:15Speaker 2: land as K-Walk just got stuffed again on fourth and goal.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Oh, Stonewalled, yeah. Stonewalled.
- 6:23Speaker 2: That's not good because if the Chiefs get a safety,
- 6:25Speaker 2: I think– what's his face?
- 6:29Speaker 3: Oh, has the Chiefs D?
- 6:33Speaker 2: Actually, no, that was in the $ 20 millie. That was
- 6:35Speaker 2: in the 20. So if we take a look at
- 6:38Speaker 2: MSP here, he's still up top. Yeah, Walker, he's got
- 6:44Speaker 2: him covered. Blake Corham, he's fading Blake Corham now too.
- 6:50Speaker 4: The leverage lane from our guy Tambo is fading our guy.
- 6:54Speaker 4: The good news that is, well, it's only a six
- 6:56Speaker 4: point game.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I think it's six points, but.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah, but like they're trailing.
- 7:00Speaker 2: So trailing script is more Kyron, but I'm assuming some,
- 7:03Speaker 2: there's probably some Kyron team somewhere up here as well.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Um, I mean, I mean, worthy.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Yeah. So really for a guy, I mean, hopefully the
- 7:11Speaker 2: slate just ends for him, but, uh, Let's go ahead
- 7:15Speaker 2: and jump into the showdown talk here as we watch
- 7:18Speaker 2: the end of these games.
- 7:21Speaker 3: Hey, real quick, who's.
- 7:23Speaker 1: The guy in chat?
- 7:24Speaker 3: Is his name in chat MSP or is it something else?
- 7:27Speaker 1: So it's Max Manning's buddy.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Oh, Matt Manning, yeah.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Well, it's not him. It's Max Esota. Max Esota.
- 7:35Speaker 2: So he's actually at the Minnesota Wild game right now live,
- 7:39Speaker 2: sweating a milli for a work event on a Sunday.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Wow.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I mean, what a time to be alive, right? Like,
- 7:45Speaker 1: hashtag how rich, right? Chilling at the Minnesota Wild. Go wild.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Well, he's sweating out a 555 milli there. But, yeah,
- 7:53Speaker 2: let's jump into this game here. And we got a
- 7:55Speaker 2: good game on our hands. 53 and a half point favorites.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Game here in Green Bay. Let me look out the
- 8:03Speaker 1: window real quick here.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Yeah, sunny, a little brisk, about 54 degrees as we
- 8:09Speaker 2: sit right now. Going to be kind of the same
- 8:12Speaker 2: temperatures or so around kickoff. There is some wind. There
- 8:15Speaker 2: is some gust out there, but nothing too crazy. I mean,
- 8:19Speaker 2: anytime you're seeing a 53.5 point total and the projected
- 8:23Speaker 2: winds and stuff, Vegas isn't really worried about that too
- 8:26Speaker 2: much overall.
- 8:28Speaker 1: But I think it's a pretty good one here.
- 8:31Speaker 2: So what's your kind of broad slate overview as we
- 8:33Speaker 2: jump in and talk about Dallas on the road in
- 8:36Speaker 2: Green Bay here to round up this Sunday night?
- 8:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be a good game. I know you're
- 8:41Speaker 4: going to be heavily interested in it. We've got new ones.
- 8:42Speaker 4: We've got a title.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Micah Parsons Bowl, but with no Micah tonight.
- 8:47Speaker 4: We need to get Micah back. The games are just
- 8:49Speaker 4: better when Micah Parsons is in. Cowboys, it's also the
- 8:54Speaker 4: revenge of the Dez Bryant. Was it a catch game too?
- 8:58Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to this. Cowboys coming off a brutal,
- 9:02Speaker 4: brutal loss at the hands of a running back disguised
- 9:06Speaker 4: himself as a quarterback the other night.
- 9:08Speaker 3: And you know, I expect them to come back and play.
- 9:12Speaker 4: Well, we saw, we saw the Packers last week against
- 9:15Speaker 4: the bears, just manhandle them physically running them over. You're
- 9:19Speaker 4: too little out there. Just doing it. Watson catching those passes,
- 9:23Speaker 4: showing that bling in his mouth, man, it was a
- 9:25Speaker 4: heck of a game by them, but I think it's
- 9:27Speaker 4: going to be a competitive game. I know you're not
- 9:29Speaker 4: gonna like to hear this Nate's, but I actually liked
- 9:31Speaker 4: the Cowboys tonight. They're plus one and a half. They
- 9:33Speaker 4: got some really good skill guys. They got Javante, um,
- 9:37Speaker 4: And then on the other side, though, the Packers skill guys,
- 9:41Speaker 4: you know where the ball's going.
- 9:43Speaker 3: And you know the Cowboys defense, Overshawn is out still.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Joey Porter, I think, is in. Correct me if I'm wrong, Nades.
- 9:49Speaker 4: But should be a back and forth game, higher scoring.
- 9:53Speaker 4: But I do lean the Cowboys tonight. We'll talk about
- 9:55Speaker 4: it as we get into it.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we can definitely talk about it. I'll tell you
- 10:00Speaker 1: one thing.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I do like points in this game. So I do
- 10:02Speaker 2: like it from a fantasy aspect. Regardless of who you
- 10:05Speaker 2: like in the game, obviously I'm going to side with
- 10:07Speaker 2: the Packers just at home. And to be honest, I
- 10:10Speaker 2: don't think either team's defense is really good. So I
- 10:12Speaker 2: expect a lot of points. And I really don't think
- 10:16Speaker 2: Dallas' defense is good at all. I do like what
- 10:20Speaker 2: I saw last week, not to put so much stake
- 10:22Speaker 2: into one week, but the Packers did go out and
- 10:25Speaker 2: sign a bunch of vets for the offensive line last week.
- 10:29Speaker 2: We kind of saw Jordan Love have a little bit
- 10:31Speaker 2: more time to throw, which has been a big issue
- 10:33Speaker 2: with this offense. And if Jordan Love doesn't have time
- 10:36Speaker 2: to throw, it's just everything falls to shambles.
- 10:39Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:39Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see what that does going forward
- 10:43Speaker 2: here in terms of how this it can improve this
- 10:46Speaker 2: offense from an efficiency standpoint.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Doesn't help our defense.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Our defense is still pretty, pretty trash right now, especially
- 10:52Speaker 2: with Michael Parsons out, even with the emergence of, of
- 10:55Speaker 2: Lucas finesse. Um, I don't think Xavier McKinney is going
- 10:58Speaker 2: to get, uh, two, two interceptions to fall on his lap. Uh,
- 11:01Speaker 2: cause he doesn't have Tyson Badgett throwing the football here.
- 11:04Speaker 2: He's got Dak Prescott. Um, so overall should be a
- 11:07Speaker 2: pretty good game.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yeah. Overshawn is still out.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Drew Shelton, uh, offensive tackle is going to be out
- 11:13Speaker 2: as well for Dallas Durant, um, is, uh, Cornerback, he's out.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Savion Williams is questionable.
- 11:19Speaker 2: That is actually kind of pretty big news there because, again, Packers,
- 11:24Speaker 2: it's kind of up in the air. Bo Melton is
- 11:26Speaker 2: going to be kind of the wide receiver three projected
- 11:28Speaker 2: wise right now. But if Savion's in, that does muddy
- 11:32Speaker 2: the waters there a little bit as well for those
- 11:34Speaker 2: kind of ancillary wide receivers outside of Christian Watson and
- 11:38Speaker 2: Matthew Golden. Green Bay's got St. Just is out as well.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs is going to be back next week. So
- 11:46Speaker 2: he's still out this game. So we're going to be
- 11:47Speaker 2: talking about guys like Pierre Strong, Marshawn Lloyd in a
- 11:50Speaker 2: pretty good running matchup here. So that's kind of the
- 11:52Speaker 2: broad slate overview overall. Let's jump here and talk on
- 11:57Speaker 2: these captains here. From an ownership standpoint, it's going to
- 12:01Speaker 2: kind of get spread, which you would tend to believe
- 12:04Speaker 2: because there's so many good skill position guys on this slate.
- 12:06Speaker 2: You got both quarterbacks. who project really well and show
- 12:09Speaker 2: positive leverage here on the stone in Dak and Jordan
- 12:12Speaker 2: love Javante and Marshawn Lloyd. Javante is going to get
- 12:17Speaker 2: right around 10% or so up top lamb and pickings. Um,
- 12:20Speaker 2: it's going to be more so favored in the, uh,
- 12:25Speaker 2: nice throw Josh Allen, you clown. Um, it's going to
- 12:28Speaker 2: be more show shifted in the, uh, favor of CD
- 12:31Speaker 2: lamb here from in terms of ownership. Um, And then
- 12:35Speaker 2: on the Packers, you've got Watson and Golden both going
- 12:38Speaker 2: to be right around.
- 12:38Speaker 1: That 10% mark.
- 12:39Speaker 2: So in terms of tiers, it's the quarterbacks is the highest,
- 12:43Speaker 2: and then it's a drop down to CeeDee Lamb. And
- 12:47Speaker 2: then it's Javante, Pickens, Watson, Golden kind of all put
- 12:52Speaker 2: them in a hat, pick them out. There's not really
- 12:56Speaker 2: one super high compared to the other. So overall, I
- 12:59Speaker 2: think Captain, it's pretty– tough to narrow it down here
- 13:03Speaker 2: because there is, I mean, I could see Javante, I
- 13:05Speaker 2: could see Dak, I could see Jordan Love, Lamb, Pickens, both.
- 13:09Speaker 1: I can see Watson, Golden.
- 13:11Speaker 2: So, I mean, right there, when you look at those guys,
- 13:13Speaker 2: you're talking seven captains just between those before you even
- 13:18Speaker 2: take a look at a guy like Tucker Craft up top, right?
- 13:21Speaker 2: So said a lot to throw it over to you here,
- 13:24Speaker 2: but what do you like in terms of the captain position?
- 13:27Speaker 2: Both these teams are very pass happy. So far throughout
- 13:31Speaker 2: the course of the season, almost an 80-20 split from
- 13:35Speaker 2: both sides here. So you should expect pass catchers and
- 13:38Speaker 2: quarterbacks to kind of do their thing here.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I got four captains I'm really looking at, and
- 13:43Speaker 4: they're probably the same people that everybody else is. But
- 13:46Speaker 4: just to get a little bit different, I like Javante
- 13:48Speaker 4: Williams up top tonight.
- 13:50Speaker 3: I mean, you talked about it. I mean, they are
- 13:52Speaker 3: pass heavy.
- 13:54Speaker 4: So you're getting a discount off CeeDee Lamb, off Dak,
- 13:56Speaker 4: and Javante, the third highest captain at 14-4.
- 13:59Speaker 3: I like that to get different.
- 14:01Speaker 4: We've seen this Packers team at times this season have
- 14:05Speaker 4: been susceptible to the run. Javante handled every running back's
- 14:09Speaker 4: carry last week but one, and that one was late
- 14:12Speaker 4: in the game. So I like Javante Williams. He is
- 14:15Speaker 4: the cheapest of the big three between Lamb, Dak, and himself.
- 14:20Speaker 4: He's at 14-4, so I like him. Also, if I'm
- 14:23Speaker 4: going to the Packers, I like Jordan Love.
- 14:26Speaker 1: 14-1.
- 14:26Speaker 4: We saw Jordan Love doing Jordan Love things last week,
- 14:29Speaker 4: just spreading that ball around, throwing it deep to Watson,
- 14:32Speaker 4: throwing it deep and short to Golden late in the game.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Both, I think, were over 100 yards. He likes to
- 14:38Speaker 3: spread that ball around. Jordan Love does. He also has
- 14:40Speaker 3: a tight end.
- 14:41Speaker 4: That's very good. He throws to his back. So I
- 14:43Speaker 4: like Jordan Love. He would be my favorite Packer captain.
- 14:48Speaker 4: And then Lamb and Prescott, nothing needs to be said
- 14:51Speaker 4: about them. We know that Lamb has had 20-some-odd Targets
- 14:55Speaker 4: in a game this season, and he.
- 15:00Speaker 3: Paid us off, right? He did very well.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Nades, one thing I didn't check to see, though, he
- 15:04Speaker 4: left kind of that game last week.
- 15:07Speaker 3: I know it was on Thursday early. Is he on
- 15:10Speaker 3: the injury report, C.D. Lamb?
- 15:13Speaker 1: I do not believe so.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Let me just pull up our partner here, DFSOS, and
- 15:20Speaker 2: go to the news here.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Type in C.D.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Lamb.
- 15:25Speaker 1: And let's do, yeah. So CD lamb right here.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Impact a double dose of Williams might do the trick
- 15:33Speaker 2: in green Bay.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:34Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't see, yeah. Thigh not listed
- 15:37Speaker 2: on injury report for week six.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:40Speaker 2: So two days ago, he's good to go. So I don't, yeah,
- 15:45Speaker 2: I don't, I don't see an issue there with, with lamb.
- 15:48Speaker 2: So go ahead and kind of summarize. I know you
- 15:51Speaker 2: talked about four captains here, but go ahead and summarize your,
- 15:54Speaker 2: your kind of overall captain captain thoughts in general.
- 15:58Speaker 4: That would be my last two CD because of his
- 16:01Speaker 4: upside and his targets.
- 16:02Speaker 1: And then Dak, right.
- 16:03Speaker 4: Dak has tons of weapons. Ferguson had a fumble late Javante.
- 16:07Speaker 4: He can dump it off to Flournoy as well that
- 16:09Speaker 4: he has. I don't like Flournoy as a captain, but
- 16:11Speaker 4: it's a, it's Williams is my favorite cowboy followed by love.
- 16:14Speaker 3: And then it would be Dak and CD would kind
- 16:16Speaker 3: of be three, three, a three B for me.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like that. Um, I do.
- 16:23Speaker 2: I'm going to start with Jordan Love on top and
- 16:25Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. I like both quarterbacks here. Again, I expect
- 16:29Speaker 2: heavy doses of the offense. I mean, Cowboys, yeah, you
- 16:33Speaker 2: can obviously have the C.D. Lamb explosion game, but they're
- 16:35Speaker 2: still the tight ends, right? Span Ford gets involved. All
- 16:39Speaker 2: these other guys get involved there. So you can see
- 16:41Speaker 2: a scenario. where Dak does spread it out. Javante's involved.
- 16:45Speaker 2: CeeDee Lamb, Pickens, obviously. You got Flournoy, who's involved a lot.
- 16:49Speaker 2: And then, like I said, the tight ends. Turpin gets
- 16:52Speaker 2: some love, too. So I can see a scenario where
- 16:54Speaker 2: both these quarterbacks spread it out. There is a little
- 16:57Speaker 2: bit of rushing upside with a guy like Jordan Love,
- 16:59Speaker 2: who can use his legs a little bit. So for me,
- 17:03Speaker 2: the top-tier captains overall, I'm going to start with both
- 17:06Speaker 2: quarterbacks up there.
- 17:07Speaker 1: I like both quarterbacks a lot.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Giovante is probably my second favorite guy behind the quarterbacks
- 17:13Speaker 2: the reason being is historically running backs have kind of
- 17:17Speaker 2: gashed this team up giovante is really kind of getting
- 17:20Speaker 2: i mean majority of this work for this offense um
- 17:23Speaker 2: in terms of the backfield um i mean he's he's
- 17:26Speaker 2: messing around he's competing with tyler goodson who yeah i
- 17:31Speaker 2: mean gets in there a little bit but it's really
- 17:34Speaker 2: Javante Williams gets the lion's share.
- 17:36Speaker 1: He's 9,600 in the flex up top. He's 14, four.
- 17:40Speaker 1: So much cheaper.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Than guys like CD lamb and the quarterbacks. He's right
- 17:44Speaker 2: in right there. And kind of the same price point
- 17:46Speaker 2: is Jordan love. So those are my three favorite captains
- 17:49Speaker 2: up there. And then I would drop over to Matthew golden.
- 17:52Speaker 2: The reason being is everyone has just seen CD lamb
- 17:56Speaker 2: and Watson's massive games. Watson coming off the 35 point
- 17:59Speaker 2: game last time. Matthew Golden is still heavily involved. They
- 18:03Speaker 2: love this dude. He's got big play potential. And I mean,
- 18:09Speaker 2: I just like his upside for the buy low spot
- 18:11Speaker 2: on this. So he's going to be lower on than Watson,
- 18:14Speaker 2: then Lamb, then Javante, then both the quarterbacks. So from
- 18:16Speaker 2: a leverage captain standpoint, I think Matthew Golden is my
- 18:19Speaker 2: favorite overall leverage guy on the slate.
- 18:22Speaker 1: But I think you could really play seven or eight
- 18:26Speaker 1: of these captains.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Like I don't even think a Marshawn Lloyd, As gross
- 18:30Speaker 2: as that is, I don't think that's the worst play
- 18:32Speaker 2: in the world. This Cowboys rushing defense has been absolutely atrocious.
- 18:36Speaker 2: I know the Packers have been super pass heavy due
- 18:39Speaker 2: to the offensive line. But if there is a scenario,
- 18:42Speaker 2: if we see more of kind of what we saw
- 18:43Speaker 2: last week, right, where Packers actually have shown to have
- 18:48Speaker 2: a serviceable offense with the new offensive line improvements.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd, I mean, the dude's going to be 5%.
- 18:53Speaker 1: He's 11-1. So it gets you on a different roster construction.
- 18:57Speaker 2: It kind of avoids you having to punt to the
- 19:00Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey's, the Tucker crafts, the, the cheap guys down
- 19:05Speaker 2: in the flex to mess around with bull mountain, Savion Williams,
- 19:08Speaker 2: the floor noise of the world because you can just
- 19:10Speaker 2: get on a little different roster construction there. So any
- 19:13Speaker 2: thoughts on kind of those I'll call them tier three
- 19:16Speaker 2: captain type guys, the, the Marshawn Lloyd, the Tucker crafts,
- 19:21Speaker 2: any of the, any of the ancillary guys outside of
- 19:24Speaker 2: that kind of the big, the big main six.
- 19:27Speaker 4: Yeah tucker craft tucker craft always interests me he's six
- 19:30Speaker 4: eight um and the flex 10-2 is the captain that's
- 19:34Speaker 4: that's paying a good price nades i don't know if
- 19:37Speaker 4: you remember but and i know it was several years
- 19:39Speaker 4: ago and it means it doesn't mean much now but
- 19:40Speaker 4: when we had the sunday night game with george kittle
- 19:43Speaker 4: and you nailed that against the against this Cowboys team
- 19:46Speaker 4: and he went off so I like Tucker Kraft like
- 19:49Speaker 4: if I was going you know somewhere there's Bowers if
- 19:52Speaker 4: I was going somewhere outside of outside of one of
- 19:56Speaker 4: the ones that I mentioned earlier it's tough I mean
- 19:59Speaker 4: Watson and Golden like I'm not chasing that Watson game
- 20:02Speaker 4: at 13-5 two touchdowns he looked he did look very
- 20:06Speaker 4: well he's running a bunch of the routes so Tucker
- 20:08Speaker 4: Kraft would be up there for me. And then like,
- 20:12Speaker 4: if you want to get into like a, like a
- 20:14Speaker 4: shootout type of game, like game script where it's like
- 20:18Speaker 4: one of those 40, 40 games that someone put in
- 20:19Speaker 4: the chat, Ryan Flournoy really came on late last game.
- 20:23Speaker 3: He would be six, six.
- 20:27Speaker 4: He had four for 90 against the, against the Buccaneers
- 20:32Speaker 4: and a trailing great game script.
- 20:34Speaker 3: So if you wanted to get crazy, Flournoy and Kraft
- 20:36Speaker 3: would kind of be my two.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't mind that.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I do think Marshawn Lloyd's kind of interesting just from
- 20:44Speaker 2: he kind of took a bigger role in the rushing
- 20:48Speaker 2: room last week. Obviously, he got the two touchdowns there,
- 20:51Speaker 2: but I could see a scenario there. I mean, this
- 20:53Speaker 2: dude's going to be unowned. He's looking at around 30%
- 20:56Speaker 2: total ownership. It is a really good matchup here. It
- 20:59Speaker 2: kind of leverages all of the Packers stuff that Jordan loves,
- 21:02Speaker 2: the Watsons, the Goldens, and all of the Cowboys, right?
- 21:04Speaker 2: Guys like Javante, Dak. Lamb, Pickens, all going to be
- 21:08Speaker 2: higher owned than a guy like Marshawn Lloyd. How do
- 21:10Speaker 2: those guys feel, especially on the Packers side?
- 21:12Speaker 1: Well, Marshawn Lloyd gets the two touchdowns.
- 21:14Speaker 2: He's 11-1, and then you can still get the PPR
- 21:16Speaker 2: guys like the Lambs, like the Crafts, like the Gervantes
- 21:20Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks and the Flacks and just do it
- 21:22Speaker 2: that way, play some kickers. So he would be kind
- 21:25Speaker 2: of my contrarian, large field, kind of unowned captain that
- 21:31Speaker 2: I can see a path to the top of lineups with.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Jumping over to flex here.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Uh, let's talk quarterbacks, obviously Jordan, love Dak Prescott in
- 21:40Speaker 2: this game.
- 21:40Speaker 1: You have to have interest in both.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Um, I'm seeing about 50% ownership in terms of the
- 21:45Speaker 2: flex for, for both of these guys, their optimal rates
- 21:48Speaker 2: come in a little bit higher than, uh, that. So
- 21:50Speaker 2: we're seeing some, some positive leverage for, for both of them.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Hard to really get away from them. Um, if I
- 21:56Speaker 2: had to pick one, I'd side with Jordan love just
- 21:58Speaker 2: because he's a thousand dollars cheaper.
- 22:01Speaker 1: And, uh, I think he can use his legs a
- 22:03Speaker 1: little bit more.
- 22:04Speaker 2: And, um, There's just not as much as Michael Mayer
- 22:09Speaker 2: just continues to move his way towards Halloween here and
- 22:15Speaker 2: dwarf Bowers. But what's your take in terms of the flex?
- 22:21Speaker 2: Start with the quarterbacks, and then we'll jump over and
- 22:23Speaker 2: talk running backs. Yeah, I mean, I like both quarterbacks.
- 22:26Speaker 2: I obviously like him in the captain, so I'm going
- 22:28Speaker 2: to like him down here.
- 22:28Speaker 4: I think in this game, Nades, we're not going to
- 22:31Speaker 4: see– We're not going to see a 17-14 game. We're
- 22:34Speaker 4: going to see a 31-27 type game. So I think
- 22:37Speaker 4: you're going to need the quarterbacks. They do like to
- 22:39Speaker 4: chuck it. You alluded to it earlier. Packers, super pass
- 22:42Speaker 4: heavy with what they got back there. So give me
- 22:44Speaker 4: both quarterbacks. I like what you said, though, that Love
- 22:50Speaker 4: is cheaper. So, like, if you were, quote-unquote, fading one,
- 22:55Speaker 4: it would be more Dak for me over Jordan Love.
- 22:58Speaker 4: But if you're playing, I would say, one to ten
- 23:00Speaker 4: teams– Let's say five to ten teams. I mean, there
- 23:03Speaker 4: wouldn't be many, if any, that I'm leaving one of
- 23:06Speaker 4: these quarterbacks on.
- 23:06Speaker 1: I just think they're going to be too.
- 23:08Speaker 3: Involved in this contest, flinging that ball around to their
- 23:11Speaker 3: wide receivers, tight ends, and running backs to avoid.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely see your points there.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Take us to the running back position here. Obviously, Javante
- 23:23Speaker 2: leads the slate in terms of the running back room.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd not far behind.
- 23:29Speaker 2: You get a $ 2, 200 savings off of Javante down to
- 23:33Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd.
- 23:34Speaker 1: I do like that discount there.
- 23:36Speaker 2: The way I see it is all the skill positions
- 23:39Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, Dak, Javante, Lamb, and Pickens are all expensive.
- 23:44Speaker 1: They all can't get there, in my opinion.
- 23:47Speaker 2: So if I'm picking one, if you're picking one to
- 23:51Speaker 2: kind of get under on, Is it Javante?
- 23:54Speaker 1: What does that shake up for you?
- 23:57Speaker 2: He's projected right around 35% ownership in terms of the flex.
- 24:01Speaker 2: He does have the best touchdown prop on the slate
- 24:03Speaker 2: at minus 214 to score 68 and a half rushing prop.
- 24:07Speaker 2: So he does have the props. His projection is pretty good.
- 24:11Speaker 2: His ownership is held in check. The same thing with
- 24:14Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd there. So those two do look pretty good
- 24:16Speaker 2: to me. Not really messing with these ancillary guys. But
- 24:19Speaker 2: the one guy I did want to call out before
- 24:22Speaker 2: I throw it over to you is Pierre Strong, plus
- 24:25Speaker 2: 235 to score. Marshawn Lloyd we've seen have fumble issues,
- 24:30Speaker 2: them not want to give him the full allotment.
- 24:33Speaker 1: It's kind of a stretch.
- 24:34Speaker 2: I mean, plus 235 is a pretty decent prop at
- 24:38Speaker 2: that price point.
- 24:39Speaker 1: But then you look at his rushing prop, 16.5.
- 24:42Speaker 2: You're kind of looking at a one kind of, Inside
- 24:46Speaker 2: the five, right?
- 24:47Speaker 1: Touchdown. Is that enough at 3K? Probably. But how do
- 24:51Speaker 1: you see the backfield here?
- 24:54Speaker 4: Yeah, a ton of interest in Javante. For me, I
- 24:58Speaker 4: like him in all formats, captain in the flex. And
- 25:01Speaker 4: then I think I'm a little bit lower on Marshawn Lloyd.
- 25:04Speaker 4: I mean, Marshawn Lloyd was huge in the best ball
- 25:09Speaker 4: streets after the Jacobs news broke.
- 25:11Speaker 3: This is his last game to be quote-unquote featured.
- 25:13Speaker 4: $ 7, 400, that's a big boy price tag he's going to
- 25:16Speaker 4: have to pay off. And he just doesn't play enough
- 25:19Speaker 4: for me. He's only a two-down back. Pierre Strong is
- 25:22Speaker 4: going to play a lot on third downs. So Pierre
- 25:24Speaker 4: Strong would be a good play for me at only $ 3, 000,
- 25:28Speaker 4: especially on DraftKings where I think he's more likely to
- 25:32Speaker 4: catch passes than Marshawn Lloyd. So give me some Pierre
- 25:37Speaker 4: Strong if you're doing a game script of where the
- 25:41Speaker 4: Cowboys lead and they're having to do a lot of
- 25:43Speaker 4: two-minute hurry-up type stuff, I think that's more Pierre Strong's
- 25:47Speaker 4: strong suit than Marshawn Lloyd. And so at $ 3, 000, I
- 25:52Speaker 4: like Strong better than Lloyd on this slate when it
- 25:54Speaker 4: comes to running backs. Not getting to Caleb Johnson.
- 25:58Speaker 3: He's in the doghouse.
- 25:59Speaker 4: He had a fumble in Tampa two weeks ago and
- 26:01Speaker 4: then didn't really even touch the field until the fourth
- 26:03Speaker 4: quarter when the game was out of commission last week.
- 26:06Speaker 3: So no Caleb Johnson.
- 26:08Speaker 4: And it's only Javante as a running back. for the
- 26:12Speaker 4: Cowboys and then Strong and then Lloyd would be kind
- 26:14Speaker 4: of distant for me if I'm building an 11th-plus team.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I definitely like– I do like Marshawn Lloyd
- 26:22Speaker 2: a little bit more than you because I do think
- 26:25Speaker 2: as we approach Locke, I know there's a price discount
- 26:29Speaker 2: and a difference between Lloyd and Strong, but I think
- 26:32Speaker 2: their ownership kind of middles, to be honest. I think
- 26:36Speaker 2: we kind of see similar ownership amongst the two. So
- 26:39Speaker 2: it's kind of a spend up to be contrarian. It's
- 26:41Speaker 2: his last spot is kind of the featured back overall
- 26:45Speaker 2: with Jacobs coming back. The news Jacobs will be back
- 26:47Speaker 2: next week. So I do like him quite a bit.
- 26:50Speaker 2: But Strong would be my third guy. Not messing with
- 26:53Speaker 2: Luke Goodson and definitely no Caleb Johnson with Strong. Three
- 26:58Speaker 2: hundred dollars or four dollars cheaper there for me, myself.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Taking a look at the wide receiver position here. Obviously,
- 27:06Speaker 2: CeeDee Lamb leads the charge here. 10-8, big boy price point.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Flex ownership going to be kind of right there, the
- 27:12Speaker 2: same as Christian Watson. $ 1, 800 difference.
- 27:16Speaker 1: There in terms of price.
- 27:17Speaker 2: George Pickens commanded right around 30% ownership in terms of
- 27:21Speaker 2: the flex. He's $ 8, 800, $ 800 more than Golden. So how
- 27:25Speaker 2: do you see this wide receiver room in general? Obviously,
- 27:29Speaker 2: you've got the four-headed monster in Lamb, Watson, Pickens, and Golden.
- 27:33Speaker 2: But Flournoy is heavily involved. Bo Melton is expected to
- 27:36Speaker 2: slot in to the wide receiver three role here. And
- 27:40Speaker 2: Packers do run some three wide receiver sets. Jordan Love,
- 27:44Speaker 2: if he slings it like he did last week, he
- 27:46Speaker 2: can spread it around. Bo Melton's just 2,800. I think
- 27:49Speaker 2: he's actually a solid football player in general. And then
- 27:53Speaker 2: any of these other cheap guys, guys like Turpin, who
- 27:55Speaker 2: gets some gadget plays to him, obviously gets the return,
- 27:58Speaker 2: the double dip there when we talk about defense. Sturdivant, Mingo,
- 28:02Speaker 2: Savion Williams, if he's active, is $ 200.
- 28:04Speaker 1: So how do you see this wide receiver room?
- 28:07Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite is going to be CD. He's number
- 28:11Speaker 3: one for me.
- 28:12Speaker 4: And then if you're talking tournaments, I like Ryan Flournoy
- 28:17Speaker 4: at $ 4, 400, kind of be my guy. I would stack
- 28:20Speaker 4: in there with or without Dak, probably more likely with Dak,
- 28:23Speaker 4: like in a Dak captain-type team, just based on the
- 28:26Speaker 4: price at $ 4, 400. I'll take my $ 1, 000 savings with Matthew
- 28:33Speaker 4: Golden over Watson, although Watson's kind of the big play guy.
- 28:37Speaker 4: So Golden would be my favorite Packer. And then, yeah,
- 28:41Speaker 4: I liked what you said about Bo Melton. He's WR
- 28:44Speaker 4: number three.
- 28:45Speaker 3: But Nades, J.
- 28:47Speaker 4: Michael Sturdivant called like a 45-yard bomb last week.
- 28:51Speaker 3: I know you saw it. It got called back. It
- 28:54Speaker 3: got called back. But, man, like.
- 28:57Speaker 4: At $ 1, 000, like if he hits another home run like that,
- 29:02Speaker 4: you know, you're cooking there. So I might have a
- 29:05Speaker 4: little interest in J. Michael, like in a Millie type thing,
- 29:08Speaker 4: like the $ 15 Millie. And then let me touch on,
- 29:11Speaker 4: I don't like Turpin or Mingo, anybody like that. And
- 29:14Speaker 4: then Pickens, like Pickens to me is like, I'm like,
- 29:19Speaker 4: I'm fading, you know, Pickens, right? And single entry, he
- 29:22Speaker 4: would be the one, he would be the one that
- 29:25Speaker 4: I'm fading would be George Pickens.
- 29:27Speaker 3: So kind of like got to take a stand somewhere.
- 29:30Speaker 4: It's Pickens and Lloyd for me would be the two
- 29:33Speaker 4: like high price guys that I'm fading. When I say
- 29:36Speaker 4: I'm fading, like if I'm doing single entry three max,
- 29:38Speaker 4: you know, I'm not going to. to have any of
- 29:40Speaker 4: George Pickens in that type of format.
- 29:43Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like that. For Pickens, I'll start with
- 29:46Speaker 1: the Pickens.
- 29:48Speaker 2: I think I'd rather play Pickens up top than in
- 29:52Speaker 2: the flex because I think if it's a Pickens game,
- 29:54Speaker 2: you probably see the two long touchdowns where C.D. Lamb
- 29:58Speaker 2: can play more in the flex. I know the price
- 29:59Speaker 2: point difference there, and obviously C.D. Lamb can have the
- 30:02Speaker 2: ceiling games. That's not what I'm saying here, but if
- 30:07Speaker 2: Pickens is really doing his thing, I kind of see
- 30:10Speaker 2: it as more of the long plays down the field,
- 30:13Speaker 2: the quick kind of scores that can get there. He
- 30:15Speaker 2: can get the 100-yard bonus, have a touchdown or two,
- 30:18Speaker 2: and then you can find him up top, whereas his
- 30:21Speaker 2: kind of Median outcomes, I don't know if he's really
- 30:24Speaker 2: going to be there in the flex at this price
- 30:26Speaker 2: point at $ 8, 800 over guys like Golden. We're going to
- 30:29Speaker 2: obviously talk about the kickers and the defenses. You got
- 30:33Speaker 2: the tight ends as well that are cheaper than him.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And he's $ 800 more than Matthew Golden, who's running just
- 30:39Speaker 2: about every route and.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Getting almost as many targets as Christian Watson is.
- 30:45Speaker 2: In a spot where you expect the Packers to continue
- 30:48Speaker 2: and have to throw the ball as well. So especially
- 30:50Speaker 2: for you where you do like the Cowboys to win
- 30:52Speaker 2: the game. From the Packers side, I do side. Golden
- 30:56Speaker 2: is my favorite receiver overall from the Packers side. Watson
- 31:00Speaker 2: is obviously good as well. Those guys basically split the
- 31:03Speaker 2: target share last week. Golden had seven targets. Watson had
- 31:07Speaker 2: eight targets. They both ran similar routes. But in terms
- 31:12Speaker 2: of the other guys running routes on this team, at
- 31:14Speaker 2: least last week, Sturtevant did only run two routes. But
- 31:18Speaker 2: when he was out there, he got targeted. So that's
- 31:22Speaker 2: kind of a deep, large field stuff. I would much
- 31:25Speaker 2: rather play Bo Melton at similar ownership. I just don't
- 31:29Speaker 2: think Bo Melton's going to get played that much. He's
- 31:31Speaker 2: going to be right around 10%, which isn't nothing to
- 31:36Speaker 2: really worry about too much there. And he's Again, running
- 31:40Speaker 2: the third most routes from this wide receiver room on
- 31:42Speaker 2: this team overall. Don't really want to mess with these
- 31:46Speaker 2: other guys. Sturdivant would be– actually, to be honest, Ham,
- 31:49Speaker 2: I'd probably just rather take a shot at $ 200 Savion
- 31:52Speaker 2: Williams and his big Guardian cap than mess with Sturdivant
- 31:57Speaker 2: at $ 1, 000. What's your thought on that if Savion is
- 32:03Speaker 2: indeed active?
- 32:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, where has Savion been?
- 32:06Speaker 3: Has he been on the IR? I haven't seen him.
- 32:08Speaker 4: You don't see much of him, but where has he
- 32:11Speaker 4: been all season? Has he been inactive or on the IR?
- 32:20Speaker 4: If you're talking, you're on mute.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on IR with an ankle injury, but
- 32:24Speaker 2: they did activate him 19 hours ago. So.
- 32:31Speaker 2: And they designated him for a return and placed Jonathan
- 32:35Speaker 2: Ford and Hargrave and Sky Moore all on IR. So,
- 32:42Speaker 2: I mean, if Savion is in there, I do expect
- 32:45Speaker 2: him to get routes. I mean, it probably sides more
- 32:50Speaker 2: in the aspect of Bo Melton, but Savion's been with
- 32:55Speaker 2: this team before.
- 32:56Speaker 1: They've shown when they've gotten thin at wide receiver that
- 32:59Speaker 1: to use this guy.
- 33:00Speaker 2: So I do have some interest in him, um, over
- 33:03Speaker 2: a guy like Sturdivant who's you're kind of competing for
- 33:06Speaker 2: about 10% of the snaps and hoping that when he's
- 33:09Speaker 2: out there in his, I don't know, two to two
- 33:12Speaker 2: to five snaps or something like that, that, that he's
- 33:15Speaker 2: going to get a look, um, there.
- 33:16Speaker 1: So any, uh, any additional points there from, from the
- 33:20Speaker 1: wide receiver?
- 33:21Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Nothing, nothing else there.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Um, Other than, yeah, CeeDee and Flournoy would be my
- 33:28Speaker 4: top two in tournaments.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Flournoy quite a bit. Right around 15%
- 33:35Speaker 2: ownership at 4,400. He's going to be kind of held
- 33:38Speaker 2: in check. He has to be because he's in that
- 33:42Speaker 2: tight end and kicker range that, I mean, people would
- 33:45Speaker 2: much rather just play. Actually, I don't know if people
- 33:49Speaker 2: would much rather play Trace Mack. We'll talk about that
- 33:51Speaker 2: when we get to the Kickers and defenses. But let's
- 33:55Speaker 2: jump over to the tight end position here. In terms
- 33:58Speaker 2: of the tight end position, you got pretty crowded field here. Obviously,
- 34:04Speaker 2: it's headlined between Ferguson and Tucker Craft. But Janu, Schoonmaker, Spanford,
- 34:11Speaker 2: all three of those guys do get mixed in. Janu
- 34:14Speaker 2: at 1,600. at 5% ownership as a value play on
- 34:18Speaker 2: this slate, I think he's kind of interesting. He does
- 34:20Speaker 2: get routes for this offense. You look at last week,
- 34:25Speaker 2: Johnny ran the fifth most routes on the team behind Melton, Kraft, Golden,
- 34:29Speaker 2: and Watson. So 1,600, he didn't get a target last week,
- 34:33Speaker 2: but I do think like this, where you can kind
- 34:37Speaker 2: of feast over the middle of the field here against
- 34:42Speaker 2: the Cowboys, I think both the Tucker and John who
- 34:46Speaker 2: are pretty interesting. Those two are over Ferguson for me.
- 34:50Speaker 2: I'm just not a big Ferguson guy here. I think
- 34:53Speaker 2: he's always over owned in this offense more. So I
- 34:57Speaker 2: play him more so in like that captain team, something
- 34:59Speaker 2: like that. And just hope it's not a big CD game.
- 35:01Speaker 2: It's not a big pickings game. It's kind of spread
- 35:03Speaker 2: out enough and that's where Ferguson plays in.
- 35:04Speaker 1: But what, what do you see here from the tight
- 35:08Speaker 1: end position?
- 35:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:10Speaker 4: Tucker crafts just so expensive tonight. Like it's, it's going
- 35:13Speaker 4: to be tough to get to him. What is he, $ 6, 800? Ownership-wise, yeah,
- 35:22Speaker 4: showing 20-some-odd percent.
- 35:24Speaker 3: I mean, give me Jake Ferguson, Nate.
- 35:26Speaker 4: It's just like a contrarian option, like half the ownership
- 35:30Speaker 4: of Kraft and you save money. He did have a
- 35:33Speaker 4: fumble late in the game or had a ball carry
- 35:36Speaker 4: him off his hands or something.
- 35:37Speaker 3: But, yeah, I would side more Ferguson or– Or if
- 35:44Speaker 3: you wanted to get crazy in deep field, it would
- 35:47Speaker 3: be Schoonmaker. Didn't Schoonmaker have some catches late last week?
- 35:52Speaker 3: Let me look and see. Spanford, no thank you. No,
- 35:57Speaker 3: he only had one catch, but I don't like Schoonmaker.
- 36:00Speaker 4: I'll probably be more lower on the tight ends in general,
- 36:03Speaker 4: and I would have Ferguson over Kraft for me today.
- 36:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, both Spanford and Schoonmaker are running like
- 36:13Speaker 2: three and six routes. I mean, so you're kind of–
- 36:16Speaker 2: the issue is when they're out there, they're getting targeted.
- 36:19Speaker 2: So Schoonmaker ran three routes last week, got targeted on
- 36:23Speaker 2: one of the three. Spanford ran six routes, got targeted
- 36:26Speaker 2: on two of the three. So, I mean, you're kind
- 36:30Speaker 2: of just hoping to strike lightning in a bottle. I'd
- 36:32Speaker 2: just rather play John, to be honest, than both of them.
- 36:35Speaker 2: So I do think– John who's overall probably points per
- 36:39Speaker 2: dollar wise, my favorite guy, especially cause I like Jordan
- 36:42Speaker 2: love captain teams and he fits well in those kinds
- 36:45Speaker 2: of builds where if Jordan love is the optimal captain,
- 36:48Speaker 2: you're kind of banking on Watson, not having a 35
- 36:50Speaker 2: point game, golden, not having a 30 point game.
- 36:53Speaker 1: And it's just kind of, they all kind of middle, right.
- 36:56Speaker 1: And it's spread out.
- 36:57Speaker 2: So that's, that's since it's, this is where I think
- 36:59Speaker 2: John is a pretty interesting play overall.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Um, Ferguson, um, does run.
- 37:05Speaker 2: I mean, last week he ran the second most routes
- 37:07Speaker 2: on this team behind only George Pickens. And he was
- 37:11Speaker 2: right there with, with a guy like Flournoy. So I
- 37:14Speaker 2: think Ferguson is interesting. And actually, I mean, now after
- 37:18Speaker 2: looking at it and kind of doing a deep dive here,
- 37:22Speaker 2: Ferguson's going to be what, I mean, probably could be
- 37:26Speaker 2: almost half the ownership of a guy like Tucker craft
- 37:29Speaker 2: at 6,800 and you're getting a $ 1, 200 discount there. So
- 37:30Speaker 2: I think, Any team that you have, Tucker Kraft, you
- 37:35Speaker 2: could easily just drop down to a guy like Jake Ferguson, leave.
- 37:38Speaker 1: The $ 1, 200.
- 37:39Speaker 2: And, I mean, it's a one-game sample. You're going to
- 37:43Speaker 2: get less dupes. It's going to be more contrarian. So
- 37:47Speaker 2: I do think after looking at it, it's probably Ferguson
- 37:51Speaker 2: and Johnny who are my two favorite tight ends, Kraft
- 37:53Speaker 2: being third. But those are kind of the three guys
- 37:56Speaker 2: I'm looking at overall. Jumping to special teams here, kickers
- 38:00Speaker 2: and defenses here. obviously we've got to talk about Brandon Aubrey.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Anytime Brandon Aubrey's on the slate, um, this dude does
- 38:07Speaker 2: have a real ceiling. Ownership is going to be held
- 38:10Speaker 2: in check on all four of these positions here. Um,
- 38:12Speaker 2: I I'm probably going to, you're probably going to see
- 38:14Speaker 2: sub 20% owned on all four of these guys because
- 38:17Speaker 2: of the total I've done some backtesting and actually have
- 38:20Speaker 2: seen that the higher the total is the kickers actually
- 38:23Speaker 2: tend to find their way into the optimal lineup a
- 38:26Speaker 2: lot off a lot more often because there's a lot
- 38:27Speaker 2: more scoring opportunities, right? Um, So I like both kickers
- 38:31Speaker 2: a ton here, 4,800 and 5,200, sub 20% ownership on
- 38:35Speaker 2: both of them.
- 38:36Speaker 1: They're right there in the range with those tight ends
- 38:38Speaker 1: who are going to be much more popular. I think
- 38:39Speaker 1: Ferguson and Kraft could both be higher owned than both
- 38:44Speaker 1: the kickers here, definitely than Trey Smack for sure. Both
- 38:47Speaker 1: these guys have big legs.
- 38:48Speaker 2: I know Smack had some issues a couple weeks ago
- 38:52Speaker 2: with some kicking accuracy, but prior to that, this dude
- 38:55Speaker 2: was nailing it from 60% Um, so.
- 38:57Speaker 1: I love the kickers here, defenses.
- 38:59Speaker 2: I don't love as much, but again, high scoring games,
- 39:02Speaker 2: you can see, and both these teams are very pass heavy.
- 39:05Speaker 2: So at 4k 3,600, I think they're a little too
- 39:08Speaker 2: pricey for me overall, but how do you see the
- 39:11Speaker 2: special teams here?
- 39:12Speaker 3: Yeah, those kickers are expensive names.
- 39:13Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Aubrey can hit it from anywhere on
- 39:15Speaker 4: the field, but they're super expensive.
- 39:17Speaker 3: So they're going to have to do something in order to,
- 39:20Speaker 3: in order to pay off, um, It's risky. It's risky
- 39:25Speaker 3: fading Aubrey.
- 39:26Speaker 4: And then, yeah, Smack had a good college career at Florida.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Now he's had a decent career so far. Here with
- 39:32Speaker 4: the Packers, I mean, once again, I get what you're saying.
- 39:35Speaker 4: High-scoring games are going to be down there in the
- 39:37Speaker 4: red zone area more times than not.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Hopefully they stall out.
- 39:41Speaker 3: I get it, but if I'm building, I would like
- 39:43Speaker 3: not to get.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Kickers just because they are so expensive, but certainly understand
- 39:47Speaker 4: Aubrey and smack both, both squarely in play on the slate.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think I like the kickers quite a
- 39:54Speaker 2: bit here just because I don't think people land there
- 39:56Speaker 2: in that range.
- 39:57Speaker 1: I think they're either going, they're rounded out with a.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Guy like Ferguson right there in that same price point,
- 40:04Speaker 2: or go up to a guy like craft or drop
- 40:06Speaker 2: down to guys like peer strong, right.
- 40:09Speaker 1: For three K. So I just don't, don't think people
- 40:12Speaker 1: get there and kickers.
- 40:13Speaker 2: And we've seen kickers continue to print in showdowns and,
- 40:16Speaker 2: it's no different here.
- 40:18Speaker 1: So I know there's some wind and some issues there,
- 40:21Speaker 1: but I don't care.
- 40:22Speaker 2: I mean, nothing better than, than being over on, on
- 40:24Speaker 2: kickers and you get that 50 yard field goal to
- 40:28Speaker 2: start off the game.
- 40:28Speaker 1: And you're kind of just minted from, from there on.
- 40:31Speaker 1: So I do like the kickers quite a bit defenses.
- 40:34Speaker 2: If I get any, I get any, but they're going
- 40:35Speaker 2: to be unowned right around 5% ownership in terms of
- 40:38Speaker 2: the defenses there. So nothing, nothing too crazy in terms
- 40:41Speaker 2: of takes from the kicker position. Pam, let's circle back
- 40:45Speaker 2: and look at the value here on this slate because, again,
- 40:49Speaker 2: if you are playing the CeeDee Lamb up top, the
- 40:51Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's up top, even Javante Love, I mean, Watson's,
- 40:56Speaker 2: you do have to find some value on this slate. Again,
- 41:01Speaker 2: we have Savion Williams at $ 200 expected to be activated
- 41:03Speaker 2: here and going to slot into kind of that wide
- 41:08Speaker 2: receiver 3-4 roll.
- 41:09Speaker 1: We don't really know what it's going to look like yet.
- 41:11Speaker 1: We haven't seen it.
- 41:12Speaker 2: So any– any additional breakdown on the value position here,
- 41:19Speaker 2: pure strong down to Sabian Williams at $ 200. The big
- 41:23Speaker 2: one is pure strong chalk at three K flat. I'm
- 41:26Speaker 2: going to probably, as we approach lock, be right around
- 41:30Speaker 2: that 25 to 30% range, which feels pretty, pretty heavy,
- 41:35Speaker 2: pretty strong. No, no pun intended there for, for me
- 41:38Speaker 2: on a guy who, you're kind of hoping you strike
- 41:41Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle.
- 41:41Speaker 1: He breaks one on third down or gets kind of that,
- 41:44Speaker 1: that red zone punch when he's got a 60 and
- 41:46Speaker 1: a half rushing prop.
- 41:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:48Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't realize he was going to be 25, 30,
- 41:49Speaker 4: 30% on. I mean, he's probably the best of the bunch.
- 41:54Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't go, if you don't go
- 41:56Speaker 4: cheap there, like you said, you're going to have to
- 41:59Speaker 4: go John new at 1600, which you said he ran
- 42:02Speaker 4: what the.
- 42:03Speaker 3: Fifth most routes last week or played the fifth most
- 42:05Speaker 3: or third.
- 42:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Fifth most routes on the team.
- 42:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:08Speaker 4: I mean, so, Yeah, I mean, that just makes it
- 42:11Speaker 4: like Flournoy that much more. Like, if there's no real
- 42:14Speaker 4: value and we don't love the defenses, like Flournoy, to me,
- 42:19Speaker 4: is by far and away the best quote-unquote cheap, and
- 42:22Speaker 4: he's 4,400.
- 42:22Speaker 3: So, yeah, I would probably start there.
- 42:29Speaker 1: Yeah, what a game here. Rams and the Cardinals, 16-15,
- 42:32Speaker 1: just like everybody thought, right? And no Puka. No Kyron.
- 42:36Speaker 2: It's Blake Carman, Kobe, Kobe Parkinson with the two touchdowns
- 42:39Speaker 2: there for the Rams. So congratulations, everybody with those Stafford
- 42:43Speaker 2: triple stacks with Kyron Puka and Devonta Adams. Hopefully you're
- 42:47Speaker 2: counting your money tonight on this Sunday main slate. But
- 42:50Speaker 2: that's kind of why circling back to the kickers here, Ham.
- 42:52Speaker 2: I just like the kickers value this bad this week.
- 42:55Speaker 2: I mean, pure strong. What's his rushing? Like, I don't
- 42:58Speaker 2: know what his carries prop is. Do you have it
- 43:00Speaker 2: off your off the top of your hand here?
- 43:02Speaker 3: I can get it, though. Give me like 30 seconds.
- 43:05Speaker 3: What just how many carries he's going to get total?
- 43:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to know what his what his
- 43:09Speaker 2: rushing attempts prop is, because I mean, Sabre right now,
- 43:13Speaker 2: I'm looking at Sabre and I'm looking at an average
- 43:15Speaker 2: of ours and Sabre's ownership. And I'm seeing Pierre Strong
- 43:18Speaker 2: at like 26 percent owned at 3K. And I get
- 43:23Speaker 2: it right. I get it because everybody doesn't like Marshawn Lloyd.
- 43:28Speaker 2: And there's a massive price discrepancy there as well. Yeah.
- 43:33Speaker 3: It's not even listed.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 43:35Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's why I'm just more so like,
- 43:39Speaker 2: I don't mind rounding it out with a guy like
- 43:40Speaker 2: trace Mac at 4,800 or taking a shot at Bo
- 43:44Speaker 2: Melton for $ 200 less than pure strong.
- 43:46Speaker 3: Right.
- 43:47Speaker 2: So Bo Melton, I think is probably my favorite value
- 43:50Speaker 2: play in general on the slate at 2,800, then John
- 43:53Speaker 2: new Smith. And then I'm probably just dropping all the
- 43:56Speaker 2: way down to save you on Williams at 200 bucks
- 43:58Speaker 2: is kind of how I ranked and see the value tier.
- 44:01Speaker 1: And it makes me like, again, the kickers even more.
- 44:04Speaker 2: So any any final remarks here, Ham, on this showdown here?
- 44:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think so.
- 44:12Speaker 4: Looking forward to the game. Hopefully it's hopefully it's a
- 44:14Speaker 4: good one. And hopefully someone hopefully we get that Millie win.
- 44:18Speaker 4: How's our guy on the Millie doing?
- 44:21Speaker 1: Let's refresh here and share this tab. He's still holding on.
- 44:25Speaker 1: He's still sweating it out. He's still holding on.
- 44:30Speaker 2: It does help that this Rams and Cardinals game is
- 44:35Speaker 2: dudding because obviously there's so much ownership in that game.
- 44:39Speaker 1: The guy behind you is about to lose, by the way. Yeah.
- 44:45Speaker 2: So the only one that's really close to him right now,
- 44:50Speaker 2: is Corum, but that game's about to be over.
- 44:54Speaker 1: And Xavier Worthy. So, I mean, Worthy.
- 44:58Speaker 2: Yeah, Worthy's not going to get any more touches. Well,
- 45:03Speaker 2: I mean, the issue is Worthy's at like 25 yards
- 45:05Speaker 2: away from the bonus, but it's 16-9, right?
- 45:10Speaker 1: Or 19-6 there. 19-6, yeah.
- 45:14Speaker 2: 19-6, and they just missed the field goal there. So, yeah,
- 45:17Speaker 2: I mean, the big sweat is... Worthy in the Chiefs defense.
- 45:23Speaker 2: I mean, those are the only guys really close to
- 45:25Speaker 2: him here on the screen. So, yeah, hopefully our guy
- 45:29Speaker 2: MSP holds on with the ticket. And Aaron Rodgers, right,
- 45:33Speaker 2: finds himself some Aaron Rodgers to the winner there.
- 45:38Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard, what a just complete hero. I mean, the Bama, right?
- 45:43Speaker 1: He was a Bama guy?
- 45:44Speaker 3: Yep, transferred to Bama late.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Bama guy there, Jeremy Bernard. I mean, 4K with
- 45:52Speaker 2: no Roman Wilson, no Michael Pittman. I mean, Rodgers likes
- 45:55Speaker 2: to get the ball out quick. It just made so
- 45:57Speaker 2: much sense there. That was a really good play. Malik
- 45:59Speaker 2: Nabors just continues to do it. Even with– hold on, everybody.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Hold on. Time out. Time out.
- 46:05Speaker 2: Yo, check the pulse. Check the pulse. Brock Bowers caught
- 46:08Speaker 2: the freaking ball. He got a target. He caught it.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Talk about Brock Bowers getting the– Brock, that's the third
- 46:17Speaker 2: in the second half. You know, you start featuring your
- 46:19Speaker 2: best player. Good things happen. Got to get them the rock.
- 46:22Speaker 2: However you can get it. DeMar Hamlin sighting in there.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Someone must be hurt.
- 46:26Speaker 3: Cardinals about to go down nades and kick a game-winning
- 46:29Speaker 3: field goal.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone was crowding the Rams Super Bowl champs.
- 46:34Speaker 4: I got knocked out last week, but let's see.
- 46:36Speaker 3: The Rams had to be just super-duper owned in Circa.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't look at ownership in terms of survivor. Oh,
- 46:44Speaker 1: there's Bowers.
- 46:46Speaker 3: Uh-oh. See? See?
- 46:48Speaker 1: See, this is exactly what I said in the Discord, Ham.
- 46:51Speaker 2: Bowers does not get used until the fourth quarter.
- 46:56Speaker 1: Like, why don't you start the game plan around this dude? Like,
- 46:59Speaker 1: I don't understand.
- 47:00Speaker 4: Nate, so check this out. The Rams were 31%. The
- 47:06Speaker 4: Colts were 24%. So you're about to get 55% of
- 47:11Speaker 4: the teams knocked out.
- 47:13Speaker 1: That are left, which is huge, right? Yeah, which are left.
- 47:17Speaker 4: Out of 2,900 entries, another 1,600 are going to bite
- 47:22Speaker 4: the dust if the Cardinals win.
- 47:27Speaker 2: That's insane, yeah. What a bloody year for Survivor. Yeah,
- 47:32Speaker 2: now look at this. They're force-feeding Bowers. Eight minutes left
- 47:36Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, and they finally start force-feeding Bowers. Like,
- 47:38Speaker 2: don't you think you would game plan around this, dude?
- 47:42Speaker 2: I just don't understand these franchises, man.
- 47:44Speaker 1: But, yeah. Overall, I think we broke this game down
- 47:46Speaker 1: pretty good.
- 47:48Speaker 2: What's your– let's give our favorite overall captain play and
- 47:51Speaker 2: a hot take if you have one before we get
- 47:53Speaker 2: out of here.
- 47:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go Javante is my favorite one.
- 47:56Speaker 4: I like them just ground and pound, get some touchdowns. So, yeah,
- 48:00Speaker 4: give me Javante as my top captain.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Any hot take?
- 48:09Speaker 3: No. I mean, Flournoy– I think Flournoy will be on
- 48:12Speaker 3: the winner.
- 48:13Speaker 4: I like Flournoy– um, Javante, Dak, and maybe even lamb
- 48:20Speaker 4: in the, in the winter. If I, if I can
- 48:21Speaker 4: get there, I haven't built any teams yet, but I
- 48:23Speaker 4: kind of like, I like those four of my favorite, um,
- 48:29Speaker 4: favorite players.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Okay. Um, Marquis says, do you like double kicker? Uh,
- 48:34Speaker 1: I don't think it's the worst play. Typically.
- 48:36Speaker 2: I don't like double kicker just because I think it's
- 48:39Speaker 2: a good floor, but I don't love the ceiling, especially
- 48:41Speaker 2: in the game.
- 48:41Speaker 1: That's a 53 and a half point total.
- 48:43Speaker 2: I'm just more so playing, um, kind of one of
- 48:45Speaker 2: them when I land in that range, because again, Ferguson, Flournoy,
- 48:49Speaker 2: I think are both going to be higher owned. You
- 48:51Speaker 2: got Marsh, you got Tucker craft there as well. And
- 48:54Speaker 2: then pure strong. So they're kind of, the kickers are
- 48:56Speaker 2: kind of sandwiched in no man's land there. And again,
- 48:59Speaker 2: it's not like grind. It's low total grinded out. So
- 49:01Speaker 2: the field typically kind of sells on kickers in these spots.
- 49:04Speaker 2: So that's why, but I.
- 49:06Speaker 1: Don't love going both of them.
- 49:08Speaker 2: In large field tournaments, just because I think both kickers
- 49:11Speaker 2: kind of lack upside in general in a game like this.
- 49:14Speaker 1: But I do like one of them for sure a lot.
- 49:17Speaker 2: In terms of my cap, I'm going Matthew Golden is
- 49:21Speaker 2: my favorite guy up top. And then Marshawn Lloyd is
- 49:25Speaker 2: kind of the contrarian guy. And then the kicker are
- 49:28Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. Those are the two quarterbacks I like up
- 49:30Speaker 2: there quite a bit as well. In terms of a
- 49:34Speaker 2: guy I'm higher on than the field, I think is
- 49:37Speaker 2: going to be Marshawn Lloyd.
- 49:38Speaker 1: I know he feels expensive.
- 49:39Speaker 2: I know it's gross, but I'm seeing Pierre Strong be
- 49:42Speaker 2: the guy that everybody wants to play from this backfield.
- 49:44Speaker 2: It's a really good matchup. So I would not be
- 49:46Speaker 2: shocked to see both of them get there, but Marshawn
- 49:49Speaker 2: Lloyd at 7,400 he's right there in the same range.
- 49:52Speaker 1: As Tucker craft.
- 49:53Speaker 2: Tucker craft feels like a much safer click and a
- 49:55Speaker 2: much easier kick click for the field. Give me Marshawn Lloyd.
- 49:58Speaker 2: I think Marshawn Lloyd's super interesting in this spot. And
- 50:01Speaker 2: then the kickers as well. So, Nothing else for me here.
- 50:06Speaker 2: I'm going to get out of here, build my teams,
- 50:07Speaker 2: head over to the parents' house and order some pizza
- 50:12Speaker 2: and watch some of this game, and then I fly
- 50:15Speaker 2: out for a work trip tomorrow morning.
- 50:19Speaker 1: So, Ham, closing remarks?
- 50:22Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first off, safe travels. Good luck to those
- 50:24Speaker 3: Packers tonight. Should be a good game, right? That's what
- 50:26Speaker 3: we all want is a good game, so hopefully we
- 50:28Speaker 3: get it. And, yeah, hopefully we get somebody in the Discord,
- 50:31Speaker 3: if it's not us, to get that dub tonight.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll end the show with good luck to our
- 50:36Speaker 2: guy MSP as he sweats out the remaining minutes here
- 50:41Speaker 2: of these afternoon games.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Hopefully he can hold on there.
- 50:44Speaker 2: And if the Chiefs do anything, hopefully it's on the
- 50:46Speaker 2: back of Kenneth Walker because he does have everyone covered off.
- 50:50Speaker 1: On that there.
- 50:51Speaker 2: So good luck to MSP. Good luck to everybody else
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