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What It Actually Means To Be A Man. And Why So Many Are Getting It Wrong. · Frankie and Johnny: The Conversations We Never Had

• 0:08
  SPEAKER_01: Hey everybody, this is Frankie.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is Johnny.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: And welcome to the conversations.
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  SPEAKER_01: We never had.
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  SPEAKER_00: We did an episode recently where we went on and it was all about answering questions and keep bringing them in.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like we this is we're trying to provide value.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um have these conversations, not not just we're having them here, but also so that you can have better relationships so we can all do a better job of building the relationships with the people that we love most, um our family, our children, our partners.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: So so today, um, how's your week, Johnny?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, want to share a little bit about your week?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was good.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: We uh same old thing, just school and practice, and that's really it.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Scale of one to ten.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Where was it where's where's it been at?
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_02: The week so far is probably like uh I'll give it a seven and a half.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: A seven and a half, okay.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: All right, all right.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: What do we need to do to get it to like a nine-ish?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um fun.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Have some fun.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fun, fun, fun, right?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, so this week, let's talk about Johnny.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oftentimes, as adults, your experience, um say, oh, look, this is what you need to do, and yet they're not doing this the exact what they want you to do, they're not doing themselves.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: So, what I mean by that is sometimes coaches are like, hey, listen, you gotta do this, you gotta do this, you gotta do that, and then behind the scenes, maybe they're doing something else, or teachers, or pastors, priests, politicians.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how does when somebody says something, an adult, somebody who you you look up to or admire in a certain way, when they tell you to do things a certain way, and then they do the complete opposite of what they say, how how does that land with you?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: What does that feel like?
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: And can you share?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I mean, you lose as a adult, you lose credibility, just like um that old saying says, like, be a man of your word.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's the truth.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: You have to be, because you lose that trust between uh in your relationships with people and in in life in general, like you'll be l you lose that trust and and that credibility that um that people I guess have for you.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: And by being a man of your word, it's just you you're being pa you're gaining that trust and and following what what you say.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I feel like some some uh some people out there that that kids look up to, it's it's like they're they're they'll say something and and do the complete opposite and those kids are like or the people that that look up to them are are just like it just loses that that trust that you you have for that person.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: And what is it also teaching you like you as as a teenager, as a young person, like what is it that like what does that feel like?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, whoa, wait a second, and how yeah, what does that feel like?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: And when would you say more or less did you start realizing, oh wait a second?
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: They keep telling me this, but they're doing the same thing they're telling me not to do, and yeah, I realized um probably like middle of high school, um, like sophomore and junior year, where uh uh I mean in politics, like you said, coaches, um people of Christian faith, and they'll say something and and do the other, and and they'll say that they they want to help you, but they really don't in a lot of occasions.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: So and you've experienced that?
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: And what does that do to you when when when somebody tells you something that whether it's wanting to help or what does that feel like?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like as you hear that, what's going on like inside of you?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are are you like, oh wait a second, or what is it teaching you?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: What yeah, I mean it it doesn't really teach me anything.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: If anything, it teaches me something bad because I don't want to be like that.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um I want to be uh uh somebody that that people could trust and that I mean that um um people see me as like somebody that they could tell stuff to and and that I'm I'm gonna keep my word for it.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um but seeing that is just like I mean I don't want to say this like in a rude way, but people are some people are just full of of crap and and I mean they they say something and they don't do it and you really like I guess they get your hopes up and it just your hopes go down.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: So but why is that so important to you though?
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Why is if if as you're saying that like a series of people you've seen do this, what is it in you?
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: And and just like so the audience can can listen and can maybe learn from you and take from you and and wake up, man, we're in the middle of a podcast, uh, that it's like, well, they're telling me to do this, they're not doing it, but hell no.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Even though they're not living it, I choose to live it.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what is it that you inside of you that's like I don't care if what they're telling me, they're not backing up, I'm still gonna do what I deem is right.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like where where does that come from?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean like I like I just said that I just wanna I wanna be a man, uh a person and a man that that people could trust.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I want to be somebody that could keep their keep my word for for everything that I do.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um it comes with discipline and and integrity with yourself because if you don't have discipline, you're not gonna be or I mean responsibility too, like you gotta be responsible for what you say and and do it.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: But what I'm hearing really is isn't just that on top of that, I'm hearing this extremely high level of accountability that a lot of us as adults like like it's a standard that you hold high of yourself.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: How?
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how and and and hey, like grown-ups, you're never too old to learn, you're never too young to teach.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is a teaching moment for all of us, myself included.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, where does that accountability stem from?
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how, where, and why?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I heard you say with the why, like I want to be a man of my word, but but like it seems like I mean I'm more expressive than you are, but within all that, I I could feel the conviction in your voice.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: I I can feel this, this is who I want to be, and and this is who I'm going to be.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Where does that come from?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, yeah, I mean, the fifth commandment in the Bible is you shall not lie.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm a big big person in my faith, and I've always trusted and followed God.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: So as people trust God, I want people to also trust me, and and I want to follow what what God has in store for me.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: He won't he I know what he wants from us, and I just want to follow that.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: So your north is your faith.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's great to hear as a dad.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh so well, all right.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh these podcasts are getting, you know, pops here quite emotional.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh some of the answers from a proud place.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: I I I'm proud of you, son.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: So there may be people watching who who who don't have an inherent belief and faith.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Or whether it's adults, whether it's teens, you know, for whatever reason they haven't gotten their air yet, or it's not something that what can you tell them though?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like what what advice do you give to them about what you don't understand, you know, you don't understand like how it's like at home, or you don't understand like the examples I have.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: What what can you what advice do you give them?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't want to lose trust from anybody, um, or credibility.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's just like it it it just ruins and and harms relationships and um having that trust with people, um, maybe that you don't even know, but but that you stick to to what you say, it's it's a big part of and it shapes who you are.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um so my advice to you guys is just remember that you don't want somebody not to not trust you.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: So being a man of your word and saying what you do is is very trustworthy.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Mean what you say and say what you do.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: I I heard once something that resonated with me was pretty I thought it was awesome.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: It said, I may not always say everything that I believe, but everything I bel everything I say is what I believe.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that that sounds to like uh your point.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and what do you s where do you find that?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um can you give us some more examples of where where you've seen this or where you felt this without necess without naming names of like instances or places where you you've seen where somebody has said one thing and done lived the complete opposite of what they're practicing or preaching?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I mean I've been told from from people, uh Christian faith people that that they were gonna help me in my relationships and and family problems and issues, and basically got ignored and I mean it hurt, it felt bad, but you know, that means that's it's not me not being a man of my word, and it's them, so that's on them, that's not on me.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna tell them off, I'm not gonna I'm just gonna keep living my life, and I mean, if they don't want to help me, I'll find somebody else too.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: So even when your own faith is what I'm hearing, the people who you looked up to in your faith turn their back on you, you still lied on your faith.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't run from it.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Look, this is a lesson right here for for me and for all of us right now.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, whatever the situation is, just because somebody, even they hold a title that may be a position of authority, just because they do something that's not right, doesn't make it right.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't make it okay for us to do it.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Just because some people get away with it and they're supposed to be the superiors or the teachers, doesn't mean that we have to follow suit.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we know, we all know, like inside, there's a part of us that knows.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: Now the question is, are we ignoring that part?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Are we leaning into that part to try and understand what's going on?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Or are we hiding from it because we're shame, we're ashamed?
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: And you you son, like, like Johnny, like the conviction is is is rock, like it's rock solid.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and and as I say that, um I gotta own, you know, I'm I'm I'm guilty.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm guilty of that.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember a a moment um some time ago where it was something silly, but you were absolutely right.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I was convincing myself, like I we were at a at a restaurant, and uh there was some hot sauce and and uh hot Cajun Power, one of my favorite restaurants, Chuck and Dive.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: And and I remember like it was missing a little bit, and they had one in every table.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: And see, this is what you start convincing yourself.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I can't get this sauce at Publix or Target, like they're not gonna miss it.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: And and this is where where this stuff happens.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I grabbed the the bottle and I'm gonna take it, right?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, go ahead, call me thief.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and I would have been, absolutely, I would have been.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: I convinced myself that, well, it's okay, and because whatever reasons, I I'm I convinced myself that it was okay.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: And and my son, and Johnny, you told me, hey man, what is that?
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, it's just you kind of want to share because you were Yeah, I mean, it's a great example of not leading by example uh by example.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I told him, like, dude, like what are you doing?
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, he went to go stick it in the in the container that to go to the container, and I was like, Don't do that, Bobby.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, come on.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, like the sauce, like it's just a sauce.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you come to our house, I mean, we have public sauces over here.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: We have more than a bunch.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: So um I mean, I just told him and and he didn't he didn't he didn't uh take it, but if I wasn't there, he probably would have.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I would say if I didn't get that reminder in the moment, I wouldn't have.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: And and I remember there was a a time, there was a long period of my life where I still would I would have taken it.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I would have taken it, and I would have told him, oh no, because I I don't know what I would have said.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't even want to think of what I would have said, and maybe I should.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: But I would have used some type of an excuse, I wouldn't have led by example, but ultimately I would have lost some respect and credibility with with my son, and at the same time, I'm like, and parents, this is really important.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is so important.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: We can't complain about our surroundings, about our community, about our leaders, about our teachers, about all these things that we complain about that that we complain about if we're not living by a certain set of standards.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's really important that be the change that we want to see in the world.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, be the change.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Don't wait for, oh well, I'm just one person.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you something.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: You're one person, and it takes one person to start a movement.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: It takes one person to start setting an example, and that example creates ripple effects throughout our community and throughout our young people.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, as I said that, uh is there anything else that that that is there a moment maybe that you want to share where you realize what is it that I'm doing?
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: Like, man, you know, I I shouldn't have done that or uh I mean yeah, uh this is I mean it's something that probably a lot of people do, and uh like cheating on a test, I cheated on tests, and it's like I mean obviously I don't want to get the zero or I don't want to get an F, but at the same time it's obviously morally wrong to do it.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I realize it afterwards and I'm like I shouldn't have done that, or yeah.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that that's that's a I would say that's a uh a big example of of what I've done, and uh maybe a lot of people do it, and I mean it's not good, but no, there's no butt.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's no butt.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's not good.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: So now you said that the but.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Can you share a little bit about what happens when somebody's gonna do it?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my dad always tells me to I didn't even mention your dad, but oh, okay, I'll take it.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: My dad always tells me, um, like once you say something like if you say like I'm sorry, but I mean it just erases the sorry, and it's it you're getting defensive, and the other person is gonna take it as as what whatever you said after the butt is what they're gonna take, and not the I'm sorry or whatever it was before the butt.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: And he tells me usually that you could change the butt to and um sometimes I don't think so.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm stubborn, and I just I'd rather say something else other than and because but I mean like if I say like I don't know.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: I I can't give an example right now, but sometimes like I can't I can't change it to and because it just sounds wrong for me, so I'll I'll say something else.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: And and you're right, and you're right, and and before that I want to correct you.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: You said I am stubborn, and I I not correct you.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I I I want to help you realize something, and that's another thing.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like when we say I am, and we we we whatever that sentence is, uh we will continue to find ways to prove that that's what we are.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, for example, you say I'm stubborn, when you say I am this negative trait, we will continue to do things and patterns that that are that trait.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll instead of saying, Oh man, that was stubborn of me, or I had a stubborn moment, or at times I've been stubborn.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: And and I'm sharing this really from a place of like like learning, right?
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: We we we're not taught this stuff.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we should, we sure as hell should.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of things that we're taught that are unnecessary, and this is really important.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: What whether it's sadness, I'm sad.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be sad, and you're gonna continue to your brain's gonna start looking for things to to to feed that language of sadness instead of saying sadness, and I know this doesn't sound right, but I don't care.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like it doesn't matter, it's just it's reality.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying that from from any other place but truth.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Sadness is arising in me.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: A feeling of sadness is arising, or I'm feeling sad, not I am.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and as far as that and teachers, please, like those of your teachers, especially in elementary, tell your kids, like, like write them up.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean whatever you need to do to change those those butts to ands, in all of our relationships, you know you've been a part of somebody saying something, and you're like, but oh no, he just said but or she just said but erased anything and everything that was coming um before the butt.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because all the person hears is what comes after.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: So, Johnny, any any uh takeaways you want to uh give them out?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: This looks like it's gonna blow a little bit of a no, you know what?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, let's let's continue.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: I got something that I I don't want to share.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: So you you have shared in this episode how important it is to be a man of your word, how important integrity is, how important it is for you that people can like confide in you.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like what you're describing is really some of the the people who have titles of leadership in in our entire country and entire industries, like there's a lot that they could be learning from what you're saying right now.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I say that because in in the space that we're in right now, there's almost like this battle of what it is uh what's a man supposed to be.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's this alpha male manosphere of the man needs to be dominant and put women down, these like Andrew Tates and all these like I'm gonna call it for what I for what I see it a piece of crap, scumbags, insult to to what it is to humanity.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then there's these like oh men are supposed to be this way and soft and and and there's just like what is a man supposed to be?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like the the struggle for what a manhood is, to be this leader, a man of the word, a man of integrity, a man of conviction, but at the same time to show emotion and to protect women and children and and to care for them and be vulnerable.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: What where should on that on those two line lanes, what is your description of what it is to be a man?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, be a protect uh a protector.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um and at the same time, uh like you said, show emotion.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's totally fine for men to show emotion emotion.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um anger's an emotion.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I mean, show the show the I'm saying 'cause that's the that's the emo uh I said anger on because like men that are many men that are listening to this are like, yeah, anger, that's what we were told.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: Angry.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: No, show that show that soft side of you too.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not saying you have to, but I mean in your in your relationships or if you're in an argument, don't think that that you're always Riot or or don't get angry and and be vulnerable, uh, be real.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, don't ever think that that you're better than a woman or woman.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: Don't ever think you're better than a man because God made made us all equally um the same.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh He made us the same but different.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: We have different traits and stuff, but we're all the same kind of person.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: None of us are are are higher than another or or below another.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um so treat each other with respect.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think a man should have respect, be your protector, um, show his emotional side of him.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and yeah.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's great, man.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: That was a great son.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: So takeaways.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Any takeaways for this week?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: Be a man of your word and and mean what you say and and and do it.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: Mean what you say and and say what you do.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, and do what you say.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Mean what you say and and and say what you do, no, and and do what you say.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh integrity, integrity.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And and I'm gonna share, like, I I've I've shared this before.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I'll I'll never forget, like, when I was growing up, one of my the biggest memories I had of of a man that was uh, you know, when I was a little boy, was like my childhood hero.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: And it was my grandpa, and I used to call him, you know, abuelo papo.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And man, that like he showed the way he showed love, like he didn't have, you know, cable or whatever, and we'd be on the phone, and I I'd talk him for three hours through there was no pitch count like you guys have now in baseball.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and uh, you know, imagine on the phone talking to somebody and be like, ball, strike, foul.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: That must have been torture.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: But that man sat there for three hours uh with me, like every weekend, just you know, I was I was uh I guess I was practicing doing this for a while, comment commentating, I guess.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um But I I mentioned that because he he said something to me as a kid and I lost him at at uh when I was ten years old.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: He said in Spanish, and I'm gonna repeat it in Spanish, and I'll I'll translate.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: El hombre nada lo que vale es la palabra, y el día que el hombre pie de la palabra el valor como hombre.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: Which means a man is only as good as his word.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the man, and the day that that man I'm getting emotional right now, breaks his word, he loses his value as a man.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: And the emotion that's coming up in me is almost like you never even met this man.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: But somehow those words somehow came through me and and and entered you because the conviction that you have, son, is remarkable.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I mentioned that um and what my takeaway, so own your stuff, own our stuff.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like we make mistakes, adjust.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's on me.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: I could have shown up shown up better as in this particular situation, I I could have done better.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: And and don't say, but you didn't know but if you were 5% wrong, five.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Own your five.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: And don't expect the other person to own the 95.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Don't.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: We may want it to, our ego may want it to, our pride may want it to.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a man.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: A man owns that part, and if they get the other, great.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: If not, so be it.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: One thing they will earn in that moment is respect.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because us not avo not not owning our stuff, we lose credibility.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: When we lose credibility, we lose trust.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Trust and then respect.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what we got for today.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're enjoying the episodes, you got any questions, bring them on in.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: And Johnny, what what do you tell them also?
• 26:24
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• 26:26
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• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: And bring in your bring in the questions.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh send, you know, DM us if you don't feel comfortable.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're looking into, I found out about some program that uh, and I'm actually going in, you don't know this, son.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh in one of the trips that I I'm going for work, there's actually a podcast convention while I'm in New York that I'm gonna be checking out to see what what tricks are you know what what not tricks, I mean what what insights they can give us.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um but we're looking at doing this thing where you can send actually a voicemail and as a message keep it anonymous, and we can also get a feeling because when we did recently some questions, some of the questions weren't really clear as far as what was going on.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: So to to be able to better address your situation at home, uh that may be of help.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: So thanks again.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is Frankie.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: And this is Johnny, and this is conversations we never had.