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Sharri | 7 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry, Thanks Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and first tonight to the Democrat and media
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Speaker 2: meltdown over Donald Trump's win.
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Speaker 1: Last night, when it.
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Speaker 2: Was clear voters had elected Trump the forty seventh president
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Speaker 2: of the United States, Kamala Harris didn't concede defeat. She
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Speaker 2: didn't call him or address her supporters who'd worked tirelessly
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Speaker 2: for her. Instead, after learning the news that Trump had won,
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Speaker 2: she waited a full fourteen hours before coming out to
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Speaker 2: address the nation, fourteen hours to accept the election result
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Speaker 2: and actually show up. It was four o'clock in the
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Speaker 2: afternoon US time when she finally made these remarks.
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Speaker 3: We all loyalty not to a president or a party,
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Speaker 3: but to the Constitution of the United States, and loyalty
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Speaker 3: to our conscience and to our God. My allegiance to
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Speaker 3: all three is why I am here to say, while
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Speaker 3: I conceide this election, I do not concede the fate
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Speaker 3: that fueled this campaign.
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Speaker 2: It was an odd message to send, but as you
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Speaker 2: can see, she looked drawn and devastated. It's almost as
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Speaker 2: though the result came as a total shock to.
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Speaker 1: Her and to the Democrats.
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Speaker 2: They never could have imagined that anyone would possibly vote
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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump because of course his hitler, he's a Nazi,
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Speaker 2: he's a fascist.
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Speaker 1: But seventy two point six.
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Speaker 2: Million Americans did, and counting, that's nearly fifty one percent
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Speaker 2: of voters.
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Speaker 1: So are the Democrats now.
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Speaker 2: Saying that all of those seventy two point six million people,
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Speaker 2: including black Americans, including Hispanics, are racist. Are they saying
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Speaker 2: that the tens of millions of women who voted for
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Speaker 2: Trump a sexist, because that was the excuse from some
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Speaker 2: in the media and some Democrats today for why Kamala
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Speaker 2: didn't win.
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Speaker 1: Sexism and racism. Have a look.
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Speaker 4: There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there
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Speaker 4: is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism
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Speaker 4: in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did
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Speaker 4: not in any way impact on the outcome of this
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Speaker 4: race is wrong.
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Speaker 5: That message obviously was not enough to get enough white
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Speaker 5: women to vote for Vice President Harris, a fellow woman.
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Speaker 5: This will be the second opportunity that white women in
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Speaker 5: this country have to change the way that they interact
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Speaker 5: with the patriarchy.
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Speaker 6: And she is a person of color, she is a she,
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Speaker 6: and she is an interracial marriage. And I wonder I
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Speaker 6: had this question mark in my mind over whether all
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Speaker 6: of those things combined was too much for pockets of
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Speaker 6: this country.
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Speaker 2: Others meanwhile, said Kamala lost because voters no longer believed
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Speaker 2: in democracy.
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Speaker 7: I can't help but think that if this selection seems
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Speaker 7: to be if it proves out that the millions of
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Speaker 7: people who are watching Fox News, if that ends up
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Speaker 7: being the case.
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Speaker 8: Then.
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Speaker 7: I can't help but wonder if the American people have
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Speaker 7: given up on democracy.
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Speaker 2: No, this result is the very reflection of democracy. It's
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Speaker 2: democracy in action. Trump's wayen is not because voters have
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Speaker 2: abandoned democracy.
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Speaker 1: It's the precise opposite. It's because voters have embraced it.
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Speaker 2: Americans didn't want to be told how to vote, how
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Speaker 2: to think, what to do, by the media, by politicians,
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Speaker 2: and by celebrities. Remember all those pop stars who told
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Speaker 2: voters they just had to support one candidate, Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 9: I've been ready to change the next eight years because
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Speaker 9: we're going to make sure we are Kamala Harris in
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Speaker 9: office for eight year.
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Speaker 10: Women supporting, celebrating the one and only Vice President Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 11: And you are the ones who are going to send
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Speaker 11: the message that Nevada is Harris Country.
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Speaker 1: But then to top all of that, I still can't
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Speaker 1: get over.
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Speaker 2: The most outrageous and dishonest threat that Oprah made that
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Speaker 2: there'd be no more future elections. It voters chose Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Have a look at that.
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Speaker 10: If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible
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Speaker 10: that we will not have the opportunity to ever cast
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Speaker 10: a ballot again.
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Speaker 2: You can't blame sexism or racism or abandoning democracy for
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Speaker 2: Trump winning.
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Speaker 1: That's all nonsense. This was voters caring.
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Speaker 2: About substance over identity politics, caring about policy over celebrity,
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Speaker 2: caring about their future over the vibe. These are issues
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Speaker 2: that millionaire pop stars can't possibly relate to concerns about
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Speaker 2: famili's financial future and giving.
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Speaker 1: Their kids the best chance at life.
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Speaker 2: And the result is also a thorough rejection of woke
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Speaker 2: policies of DEI, of the radical progressive wave the Democrat
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Speaker 2: Party has been forcing on Americans, and similar to what's
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Speaker 2: going on in Australia as well, this result is voters
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Speaker 2: saying that they want to return to the things that
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Speaker 2: actually matter the economy, the cost of living, border control,
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Speaker 2: national security and safety.
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Speaker 1: On the streets.
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Speaker 2: This is why Trump had a clean sweep. He's won
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Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety five states, He's won the Senate,
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Speaker 2: and we're waiting to see if he wins the House.
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Speaker 2: But despite this resounding and decisive vote, some Democrats would
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Speaker 2: still like to throw him in prison if they could.
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Speaker 2: And here's New York Attorney General Letitia James today declaring war.
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Speaker 12: We face this challenge before, and we use the rule
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Speaker 12: of law to fight back, and we are prepared to
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Speaker 12: fight back once again because as the attorney General of discreetster,
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Speaker 12: is my job to protect and defend the rates of
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Speaker 12: New Yorkers and the rule of law.
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Speaker 1: This is a unity, this is division. It's warfare. And
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Speaker 1: imagine if just twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Hours after the election, if Trump had said something like that,
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Speaker 2: he'd be accused of inciting violence. Were his son Eric
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Speaker 2: today said that this politics of fear is far from inspirational.
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Speaker 13: Laura, how can that inspire you? That doesn't inspire people
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Speaker 13: in this country? You know what it inspires people when
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Speaker 13: when somebody, when a man comes out I guess all
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Speaker 13: odds fights every day of his life to say, listen,
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Speaker 13: I'm going to deliver America the greatest economy, We're going
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Speaker 13: to be the best country in the world.
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Speaker 14: We're going to win it.
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Speaker 13: Everything where we do.
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Speaker 14: We're going to win it.
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Speaker 13: Education, we're gonna have the best military.
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Speaker 14: We're going to take care of our vets. We're gonna
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Speaker 14: have right to try.
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Speaker 2: But for most of America, or half of America, Trump's
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Speaker 2: win well was well received. The Dow Jones was up
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Speaker 2: one five hundred and seven points, the first time in
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Speaker 2: two years it jumped more than a thousand points in
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Speaker 2: a single day. Internationally, world leaders have been calling Trump
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Speaker 2: wishing him congratulations, including of course, our Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi,
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Speaker 2: who probably made the call through gritted tea after previously
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Speaker 2: saying he was scared of him.
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Speaker 15: We have an alliance with the US.
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Speaker 14: We're going to deal with him.
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Speaker 15: But that doesn't mean that you're uncritical about it. He's
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Speaker 15: scared academy, and I think it's of some concern that
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Speaker 15: the leader of the free world thinks that you can
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Speaker 15: conduct politics through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.
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Speaker 2: Well, now the Albenzi government will be scared of the
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Speaker 2: obvious lessons from the American election that economy trumps all else,
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Speaker 2: that you can call someone a Nazi or a fascist,
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Speaker 2: but voters will see through it. They don't want to
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Speaker 2: be lectured to like Albinizi did with the Voice. They're
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Speaker 2: sick of the work causes and the main issue they
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Speaker 2: care about, the only issue, the only critical issue, is
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Speaker 2: cost of living. With Australia's economy well behind the rest
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Speaker 2: of the world, this should be terrifying Albanesi either more
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Speaker 2: than a Trump presidency. Now the Alberaneze government is scrambling
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Speaker 2: to show up support in the US in Washington after
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Speaker 2: Trump's win, with the Australian newspaper reporting that senior cabinet
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Speaker 2: ministers were very confident Kamala Harris would beat Trump and
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Speaker 2: that it would be business as usual for Australia. Yet
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Speaker 2: again no understanding of the climate in America. But you
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Speaker 2: can imagine the Albanese government how they'd be feeling quite
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Speaker 2: nervous now given the past comments that many of them
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Speaker 2: have made about Trump. Now Kevin rd who of course
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Speaker 2: is our ambassador in Washington. He's in charge of handling
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Speaker 2: our critical relationship with the US. And just a reminder,
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Speaker 2: and I showed these back in March, but here's some
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Speaker 2: footage of what he said about Trump in the past.
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Speaker 16: The alliance is intrinsically valuable whatever the future may hold.
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Speaker 16: And Trump's only around for another three years.
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Speaker 14: May he is an.
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Speaker 8: Objective problem the world, for the region, for my country,
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Speaker 8: and Donald, as we know, is not.
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Speaker 14: A leading intellectual force.
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Speaker 6: He looked at a Trump rally and how many angry
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Speaker 6: white men there are in those rallies.
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Speaker 1: It's so damaging.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister today claimed that none of this would
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Speaker 2: be a problem.
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Speaker 15: Kevin Ruddy is doing a terrific job and it says
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Speaker 15: a lot about how important we regard the relationship with
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Speaker 15: the United States that we appointed a former prime minister.
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Speaker 15: Now I look forward to working with President Trump. I
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Speaker 15: look forward. I've had demonstrated, i think, my ability to
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Speaker 15: work with world leaders and to develop relationships with them
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Speaker 15: which are positive.
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Speaker 2: But Labor's obviously worried because today's Sky News broke the
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Speaker 2: story that Rudd has been deleting disparaging comments that he
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Speaker 2: made about Trump on x. Rudd said in June twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty that Trump was the most destructive president in history.
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Speaker 2: He drags America and democracy through the mud. He thrives
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Speaker 2: and fermenting, not healing division. He abuses Christianity, Church and
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Speaker 2: Bible to justify violence, all aided and abetted by Murdoch's
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Speaker 2: Fox News networks in America. Help that garbage has now
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Speaker 2: been deleted by right and so as this tweet from
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Speaker 2: February twenty twenty two, Donald Trump is a traitor to
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Speaker 2: the West. Murdoch was Trump's biggest backer, and on it
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Speaker 2: goes all gone or deleted. Rudd's private office said he
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Speaker 2: did this to eliminate the possibility of such comments being
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Speaker 2: misconstrued as reflecting his position as ambassador and by extension,
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Speaker 2: the views of the Australian government. But really this all
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Speaker 2: just draws more public attention to what Rudd has said
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Speaker 2: repeatly in many occasions on video and on X.
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Speaker 1: In the past. And this is all right.
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Speaker 2: At the time, our government on behalf of all Australia
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Speaker 2: needs to make sure the relationship is rock solid.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Simon Birmingham today implied that Rudd might have to go.
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Speaker 17: We want to see him succeed because it's in Australia's
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Speaker 17: best interest for our ambassador in Washington. Of course, Kevin
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Speaker 17: Rudd is not bigger than Australia's interests. Nor is Anthony
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Speaker 17: Albi's Albanese's personal commitment to Kevin Rudd.
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Speaker 2: And Michael Kroger said the same on My show, but
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Speaker 2: in stronger terms last night.
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Speaker 8: Any decent ambassador, a Peacock, a Beasley or Hockey, anyone
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Speaker 8: who'd said that about the US president would resign.
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Speaker 1: It's shocking judgment.
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Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd should have known that there was a possibility
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Speaker 2: Rudd could come back in the future. The MAGA movement
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Speaker 2: clearly never went away. Really poor judgment. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: bringing now National Senator Matt Canavan and commentator Jason Morrison. Matt,
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Speaker 2: what do you think do you think this does put
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Speaker 2: all of Australia in a difficult position because of Rudd's
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Speaker 2: shocking judgment in the past.
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Speaker 1: I mean, those remarks were so juvenile.
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Speaker 14: Look, they were juvenile or unwise.
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Speaker 18: But I don't want to see Kevin go because I
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Speaker 18: don't think the Astralian ambassad should be determined by the
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Speaker 18: votes of Americans. This is our ambassador, it's our country
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Speaker 18: and we should ultimately decide who is there.
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Speaker 14: Obviously, we need.
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Speaker 18: Him to work in our country's interests, so I think
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Speaker 18: that can be done. I mean, Donald Trump has shown
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Speaker 18: a remarkable ability to work with people that have said
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Speaker 18: the most vitrolic thing is about him in the past,
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Speaker 18: including his vice presidential pick. So look, obviously Kevin needs
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Speaker 18: to apologize as he's had as he has his apology
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Speaker 18: needs to be as loud as his disrespect was in
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Speaker 18: the first place. And I think if he shows signific
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Speaker 18: and diplomatic skills, our relationship.
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Speaker 14: Will be fine.
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Speaker 18: So look, I'm not too worked up about it. I'm
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Speaker 18: much more worked up about the government's mad cap green
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Speaker 18: climate policies and how that's a odds with now the
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Speaker 18: new administration's agenda and what that means for our country.
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Speaker 18: But who's actually in the ambassador's office in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 18: I don't think it affects many people's lives here in
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Speaker 18: this country.
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Speaker 1: You know what, Matt.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't so worked up about it last night either,
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Speaker 2: because I'd been speaking to people, you know, on this show,
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Speaker 2: like Joe Hockey, who said to me, Kevin Rud's been
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Speaker 2: working so hard to make a man's building bridges. But
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Speaker 2: then I watched those comments that he made. I mean
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Speaker 2: that was from my own report back in March this year,
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Speaker 2: and just looking watching again the vitriol with which he
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Speaker 2: criticized Trump's intellect, how he called him a traitor, how
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Speaker 2: he said he was abusing Christianity in the Bible, and
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Speaker 2: lashed out at all of us here at News Corp
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Speaker 2: as well. And this ultimately is the Prime Minister's bad judgment.
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Speaker 16: Look that he had to delete the tweets in its
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Speaker 16: tells you how inappropriate a choice he was for the
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Speaker 16: job in the first place.
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Speaker 19: Everybody knew it.
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Speaker 16: Let's not kid ourselves. He's over there because they've got
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Speaker 16: the trouble out of the room. You know, he's not
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Speaker 16: there because he's the greatest pick in Australia right now
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Speaker 16: to go and represent Australia's interest. He's there because if
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Speaker 16: he stays here he has a habit of causing trouble
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Speaker 16: for his own team. He can't keep his trap shut,
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Speaker 16: as that has demonstrated. So they had to get him
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Speaker 16: out of the country. There was a job hopefully that'll work.
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Speaker 16: It didn't work if he had any class at all.
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Speaker 16: And I'm saying this and the knowledge that Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 16: has none, But if he had any class at all,
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Speaker 16: he'd resign. He would do what's best for Australia. And
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Speaker 16: I take what Matt says, and Matt is right. We
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Speaker 16: shouldn't be dictated to by another country as to who
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Speaker 16: we send there, but we should hope that someone, for
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Speaker 16: god knows how what reason ended up Prime Minister of
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Speaker 16: Australia would have at least the class, decency and intellect
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Speaker 16: to figure out that this may not be good for
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Speaker 16: this country's best interest. I mean, right now there's farmers
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Speaker 16: absolutely trembling at the prospect of tariff.
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Speaker 1: Changes and whatever. So it's going to bring that up road.
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Speaker 16: It's not going to be able to do anything.
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Speaker 1: They won't even talk to it exactly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Australia is going to be expecting an exemption
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Speaker 2: as we've had in the past, the ten percent tariffs,
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Speaker 2: but we've got rud who's going to negotiate that.
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Speaker 1: Who said all these nasty things about Trump before? Should
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Speaker 1: Trump have to.
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Speaker 2: Just overlook it wasn't a one off lapse of judgment,
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Speaker 2: It was a repeat pattern behavior. Matt, I want to
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Speaker 2: ask you about this fascinating move by the coalition.
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Speaker 1: Now, the coalition like.
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Speaker 2: We have at Sky News, like you know, people on
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Speaker 2: the left and right, we've all been extremely concerned about
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Speaker 2: Alberniezy government's misinformation and disinformation built. We've been covering it
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Speaker 2: on this show extensively under the cover of the US election.
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Speaker 2: That was introduced yesterday for debate. Now, Matt, what's so
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Speaker 2: interesting though, is that now the coalition's saying, given Elon
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Speaker 2: Musk is going to have a senior role, we don't
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Speaker 2: know exactly what in the Trump administration. This is yet
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Speaker 2: another reason for Labor to dump the bill top me
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Speaker 2: through this.
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Speaker 18: Well, look, I think this would be a much better
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Speaker 18: step than worrying about, as I say, who lives in
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Speaker 18: the ambassador residence in Washington, d C. This is going
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Speaker 18: to have a much bigger I think impact and ten
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Speaker 18: create tension with our relationship. Under this bill that the
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Speaker 18: government is proposing, not only does it silence the speech
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Speaker 18: of Australians, they are proposing to fine social media companies
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Speaker 18: up to five percent of their global revenue. It is
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Speaker 18: absolutely absurd. And this is not actually just about Elon Musk.
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Speaker 18: Obviously that is an issue who he is very close
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Speaker 18: to Donald Trump and he's the owner of x slash Twitter.
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Speaker 18: But just the other week at Trump on the campaign
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Speaker 18: trail was saying how he was outraged at the EU
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Speaker 18: trying to find Apple twenty two billion dollars for various offenses,
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Speaker 18: and he was going to take up the cause of
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Speaker 18: Tim Cook if he became president again.
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Speaker 14: So clearly Donald Trump is going.
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Speaker 18: To defend the injury hosts of American commercial companies as
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Speaker 18: you'd expect him to do as the American president. And
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Speaker 18: if we're serious about avoiding the impact of tariffs that
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Speaker 18: Trump might put in place, we would take these sort
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Speaker 18: of things off the table. As I said, that'll have
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Speaker 18: more impact, I think than who rocks up to talk
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Speaker 18: to the White House about Australian tariff. So the government
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Speaker 18: should It was always unwise this bill, but the governor
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Speaker 18: should at least defer it right now and get the
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Speaker 18: US relationship on solid ground.
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Speaker 2: Jason, what do you think about the fact that Albanezi
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Speaker 2: introduced this legislation for debate yesterday when everyone was focused
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Speaker 2: on the US election.
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Speaker 16: Yes, and while it's still off at committee, there are
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Speaker 16: community groups in Australia for and against this that are
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Speaker 16: still waiting to have their say, and they were offered
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Speaker 16: that by the Parliament of Australia.
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Speaker 14: So the bill is.
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Speaker 16: Still being investigated at the moment and they've flopped it
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Speaker 16: on the table and said, let's go for it. Let's
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Speaker 16: take advantage of the situation. It says everything and look
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Speaker 16: the irony. Here the irony. We have the political class. Sorry, Matt,
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Speaker 16: I'll give you an exemption just for a moment on
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Speaker 16: this one. But the political class, notorious for lying, bullshitting
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Speaker 16: to the public, that has the arrogance to want to
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Speaker 16: introduce a bill to protect them from disinformation, and they're
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Speaker 16: doing it under the cover the darkest, dirtiest political trick
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Speaker 16: all the world's look in another way, everything about the
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Speaker 16: class of people we have in that office.
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Speaker 2: And as I've said before, we've seen the number of
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Speaker 2: things that Anthony Albernezi himself has slapped the misinformation label on,
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Speaker 2: things like, you know, people who disagreed with the voice
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Speaker 2: that you know that was most of this show.
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Speaker 16: Actually most of this show is disinformation.
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Speaker 2: You can't help the shari Yeah anything, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's not even a joke.
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Speaker 14: Actually, you're exempt? Is exempt?
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Speaker 2: Well, there are That's not exactly that's not exactly correct,
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Speaker 2: because if an individual shares content that was produced by
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Speaker 2: the media, then I understand that individual could be true.
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Speaker 16: It could be the ability to go and figure this
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Speaker 16: out for itself. It doesn't need Alban Easy or the
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Speaker 16: righteous mob of Akhma or anyone like that to go
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Speaker 16: around and do it. And we're sure as hell, we're
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Speaker 16: sure as hell don't need legislation sort of put in
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Speaker 16: the back door, the sly way, the dirty trainer and
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Speaker 16: wants to see on the worst possible day, it's just
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Speaker 16: not the way it's done here from the country first
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Speaker 16: on this one and realize the errors of your way,
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Speaker 16: because we're waiting, Australia is waiting.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say the situation is already bad enough.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Canavan, you know this.
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Speaker 2: During the COVID pandemic, posts that were labeled misinformation and
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Speaker 2: taken down included images that mocked down your Landrews.
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Speaker 14: Exactly right. We remember you remember very well. Shore.
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Speaker 18: You're in the thick of it, posts that claim that
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Speaker 18: the virus came from a lab and we han't.
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Speaker 14: We're classified.
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Speaker 1: You've just got us off YouTube now mate.
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Speaker 14: We won't be.
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Speaker 18: Still doing to change that rule now. No, no, no,
20:55
Speaker 18: still doing on that issue.
20:56
Speaker 1: Not on the origin of COVID. That's not misinformation anymore.
20:59
Speaker 18: Pulling it down, it down, COVID, COVID, COVID well, I'm sorry,
21:04
Speaker 18: I've hit your monetization.
21:06
Speaker 14: I mean, it's it is just absurd.
21:09
Speaker 18: And Jason summed it up really well, we do not
21:11
Speaker 18: need an information sar looking over every one of Australian's shoulders.
21:16
Speaker 14: We're adults.
21:17
Speaker 18: We can assess for ourselves the veracity of information. Let's
21:20
Speaker 18: let a thousand flowers bloom and let people communicate freely.
21:24
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly now.
21:25
Speaker 2: I want to ask you both about Kamala Harris taking
21:29
Speaker 2: a round fourteen hours after the election result became obvious
21:33
Speaker 2: before she eventually fronted the media. Jason, this was so offensive.
21:38
Speaker 2: And then her speech, what did you make of it?
21:41
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was great. I mean what was
21:43
Speaker 2: she actually saying? You don't have to respect of believe
21:48
Speaker 2: in one president or one political party. You have to
21:50
Speaker 2: believe in the constitution. I mean what messages that sending
21:53
Speaker 2: to Democrats?
21:55
Speaker 14: Yeah, well they never get the message.
21:57
Speaker 16: They're very slow learners, these people. That was disgraceful. The
22:02
Speaker 16: performance initially put aside her obligations to her country that
22:05
Speaker 16: had just made a very profound choice about where it
22:08
Speaker 16: wanted to go with his future the day before, but
22:10
Speaker 16: then to do it to her support base and to
22:12
Speaker 16: show up with that contemptuous waffle this morning. The word
22:15
Speaker 16: salad of platitudes and all the lines she didn't get
22:18
Speaker 16: to use earlier in the campaign got churned out for
22:20
Speaker 16: the speech last I just thought it was disgraceful and
22:24
Speaker 16: it just confirms that she will go down in history
22:26
Speaker 16: as a footnote that people will forget. And there'll be
22:29
Speaker 16: a trivial pursuit question one day and that'll be Kamala Harrison.
22:34
Speaker 2: She could come back and take the party to another election.
22:37
Speaker 2: What do you think, maut about the speech that she
22:40
Speaker 2: finally gave after not speaking to her supporters last night.
22:46
Speaker 18: Look, I didn't see the speech apart from the excerpts
22:48
Speaker 18: I heard earlier. Look, I suppose I'd like to focus
22:53
Speaker 18: on the positives today. I think it's been a positive
22:55
Speaker 18: week for the world. I think Donald Trump is the
22:58
Speaker 18: right choice, but it was always up to an Americans.
23:01
Speaker 18: He won emphatically, and I think that's something to celebrate.
23:04
Speaker 18: I was very worried about a close election either way
23:07
Speaker 18: and the tensions that may create.
23:10
Speaker 14: In the US. It's a bit of a tinderbox, but
23:13
Speaker 14: no one has won.
23:14
Speaker 18: This is the largest electoral college result for Republicans since
23:18
Speaker 18: nineteen eighty eight, we had that confirmed.
23:20
Speaker 14: Today He's had massive.
23:22
Speaker 18: Swings right across the country, including in blue states. I
23:26
Speaker 18: think the Democrats will here try you look, you can
23:28
Speaker 18: see some of them with the attorney jo on New York,
23:32
Speaker 18: continuing trying to continue the battle through other means now,
23:35
Speaker 18: but I just think that'll probably fizz out. It's been
23:39
Speaker 18: such an emphatic victory that I think the vast majority
23:43
Speaker 18: of Americans will get behind rehired president in Donald Trump.
23:47
Speaker 18: And that would be a great thing in the world
23:49
Speaker 18: if he could heal some of those divisions in Unite
23:51
Speaker 18: are the most important country in the free world.
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, wish for thinking, but you never know. Matt Canavan,
23:57
Speaker 2: Jason Morrisen, great to see you both. Thank you all right,
24:01
Speaker 2: and that's Cross Live to New York, where Ross Greenwood
24:03
Speaker 2: Sky News host joins us Russ. You've been reporting doing
24:07
Speaker 2: such a fantastic job over in New York and massive
24:11
Speaker 2: news today. As we expected, there was a surge in
24:14
Speaker 2: the stock market. I mean, the best result in a
24:17
Speaker 2: single day in two years.
24:21
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's right, and that was really the response to
24:24
Speaker 20: Trump's victory is emphatic victory because to be honest, if
24:28
Speaker 20: he'd not had control of the House or control of
24:30
Speaker 20: the Senate, then the response on the markets would not
24:32
Speaker 20: have been as great. But what this is all about
24:35
Speaker 20: is Donald Trump being able to enact what he's been saying.
24:38
Speaker 20: And this is one of the keys, is that people
24:40
Speaker 20: have actually got to listen to Donald Trump, listen to
24:44
Speaker 20: his policies and understand that that is now going to
24:47
Speaker 20: come to pass. He will have nothing in the way
24:50
Speaker 20: to actually enact things such as cutting taxes, reducing taxes
24:55
Speaker 20: on tips, on overtime, on social services, and also cutting
24:59
Speaker 20: cut tax rates. And so what he's going to do
25:02
Speaker 20: is basically put more money in Americans hands, as he says,
25:06
Speaker 20: bring more industry back into the United States. Just one
25:09
Speaker 20: thing also is in today our time, there's going to
25:13
Speaker 20: be an interest rate decision from the Federal Reserve and
25:16
Speaker 20: there's going to be an interstrate cut of at least
25:18
Speaker 20: a quarter of a percent. So they cut by half
25:20
Speaker 20: a percent last month, quarter of a percent this month,
25:23
Speaker 20: adding more stimulus into the US economy. So really, in
25:26
Speaker 20: many ways, the stock market is picking up this. But
25:29
Speaker 20: just a little heads up, and this is something for
25:31
Speaker 20: Australia to consider, is that It's likely in the longer term,
25:35
Speaker 20: with Trump pumping more money in the US economy picks up,
25:38
Speaker 20: there will not be as many interest rate cuts as
25:42
Speaker 20: people are expecting, and that may very well transfer itself
25:45
Speaker 20: around the world and into Australia as well.
25:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be slightly inflationary, is basically what you're saying.
25:53
Speaker 2: Ross We've seen that. You know, Trump has been in
25:55
Speaker 2: our data today with phone.
25:57
Speaker 1: Calls from world leaders.
25:59
Speaker 2: But you've got to I think some of those world leaders,
26:01
Speaker 2: if not all of them, will be getting nervous about
26:03
Speaker 2: the tariffs that he said he's going to introduce.
26:08
Speaker 20: Absolutely, of course they would be. Can you imagine China.
26:11
Speaker 20: He wants US sixty percent tariffs on goods coming in
26:14
Speaker 20: from China, and what that's about is trying to drive
26:17
Speaker 20: more businesses to invest in America. So the warning of
26:21
Speaker 20: a twenty five percent tariff on goods coming in from Mexico. Previously,
26:26
Speaker 20: the North American Free Trade Agreement has allowed goods to
26:28
Speaker 20: come in without any additional taxes from Mexico. But he's saying, now,
26:33
Speaker 20: if you don't fix your borders, if you don't stop
26:35
Speaker 20: the flow of people across those borders, then we'll hit
26:38
Speaker 20: your goods with tariffs and really start to stimy your economy.
26:42
Speaker 20: For Australia, a ten percent tariff on all goods despite
26:45
Speaker 20: the fact that we have a free trade agreement with
26:47
Speaker 20: the United States. Now the way in which each individual
26:51
Speaker 20: country negotiates is going to also depend on a whole
26:53
Speaker 20: bunch of other stuff, including how much we spend on defense,
26:57
Speaker 20: and that's going to really trouble I think the government
27:00
Speaker 20: and Jim Charmers in terms of framing budgets now, and
27:03
Speaker 20: that's before the next election, because the reality is unless
27:07
Speaker 20: you're spending two percent of the budget here and in Europe,
27:11
Speaker 20: then the message is expect the United States to find
27:15
Speaker 20: a way to get you to pay in other ways,
27:17
Speaker 20: and that could be through tariffs. But remember that these
27:19
Speaker 20: tariffs will also drive down taxes in the United States,
27:23
Speaker 20: and that's another reason why the stock market, as we said,
27:25
Speaker 20: is stronger, and also the US dollar is stronger as well.
27:29
Speaker 2: I think the impact of the tariffs hasn't been thoroughly
27:33
Speaker 2: understood yet or there's a lot of conflicting views on
27:35
Speaker 2: how that will flow through the American economy. But ross interestingly,
27:40
Speaker 2: the IBA governor was asked about how this could impact
27:43
Speaker 2: on Australia in cened estimates this morning. So let's have
27:46
Speaker 2: a look at what Michelle bullercat to say.
27:49
Speaker 11: Obviously, there's issues to do with elections, particularly the election
27:54
Speaker 11: in the United States. What happens there remains to be seen,
27:58
Speaker 11: so I think it to be early to judge what
28:01
Speaker 11: some of the implications of that might be. There are
28:05
Speaker 11: obviously people talking about the potential implications of tariffs and
28:09
Speaker 11: those sorts of things.
28:11
Speaker 2: So ross today, a federal Reserve decision in the United
28:15
Speaker 2: States expected to be the second interest rate cut, as
28:18
Speaker 2: you've just flagged, and yet in Australia we've been on hold.
28:22
Speaker 2: We're not going to have an interest rate cut at
28:24
Speaker 2: least into well into next year.
28:27
Speaker 1: Why is Australia so.
28:28
Speaker 2: Far behind on this inflation path than overseas.
28:34
Speaker 20: It's pretty easy, isn't it. You work it out. The
28:36
Speaker 20: government spent a whole bunch of money, a lot of it.
28:38
Speaker 14: Off the books.
28:39
Speaker 20: They've actually tried to artificially bring down the price or
28:42
Speaker 20: the rate of inflation by handing out all of that
28:45
Speaker 20: cost of living relief, in other words, making people feel
28:47
Speaker 20: good about the Government's what that's about, and then try
28:50
Speaker 20: and really muscle the Reserve Bank in the cutting interst
28:53
Speaker 20: rates which the Reserve Bank is seeing through. And then
28:55
Speaker 20: consider wage rises in Australia's economy. This you know, when
28:59
Speaker 20: you saw more of them come through this week. The
29:02
Speaker 20: labor market strong. People are getting paid more money and
29:05
Speaker 20: the fact is that really that is adding to inflation.
29:08
Speaker 20: So while you've got this situation taking place in Australia,
29:11
Speaker 20: it really and the government has got controls of some
29:14
Speaker 20: of those leavers, it's not going to come down anytime soon.
29:18
Speaker 8: Now.
29:18
Speaker 20: Australia's economy is going pretty sideways at the moment, and
29:21
Speaker 20: you'd reckon rather than handwringing it at the moment, which many
29:24
Speaker 20: Australians seem to be doing post this US election, they'd
29:27
Speaker 20: be learning from the US election. They'd be actually understanding
29:31
Speaker 20: that the people are pretty angry with politicians who don't
29:34
Speaker 20: do something about the cost of living, who don't do
29:37
Speaker 20: something about actually allowing them to get on with their business,
29:40
Speaker 20: to encourage them to make more money, and to encourage
29:43
Speaker 20: business to get on and make a few more dollars
29:45
Speaker 20: as well.
29:46
Speaker 2: All Right, Russ Greenwood again, congrats on a terrific week
29:49
Speaker 2: covering the US election.
29:50
Speaker 1: We'll see you back here shortly.
29:52
Speaker 2: Now still to come. I'm going to be joined after
29:54
Speaker 2: the break by Paul Murray, and we'll look at just
29:57
Speaker 2: how the Democrats have started to do soul searching, how
30:01
Speaker 2: they're blaming everyone else but Kamala Harris.
30:04
Speaker 1: That's after the break, Welcome back.
30:09
Speaker 2: Well, as we've been speaking about, Democrats are now in
30:12
Speaker 2: a world of pain over the election result, sexism, racism,
30:17
Speaker 2: anything but their own candidate. We've also heard that from
30:20
Speaker 2: Democrat commentators across the board. Have they've all used the
30:24
Speaker 2: same line that Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign.
30:29
Speaker 1: Well, so flawless it delivered Donald Trump.
30:33
Speaker 2: Let's bring in our Sky News host Paul Murray live
30:35
Speaker 2: in Washington. Paul, Yeah, it was certainly flawless from Trump's perspective.
30:40
Speaker 2: It's always fun watching the left wing meltdowns to fair elections.
30:46
Speaker 2: The excuses for why Trump one are coming in thick
30:49
Speaker 2: and fast, and we've even started to hear leaks from
30:52
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's camp that he would have done better than Kamala.
30:59
Speaker 14: See this is why I love it.
31:00
Speaker 9: You know, we're on exactly the same page because this
31:03
Speaker 9: is where the story goes, right, which is about the
31:07
Speaker 9: tension of Biden and Harris. Now, so to explain the
31:11
Speaker 9: structure of the campaign, basically, the entire machine that was
31:16
Speaker 9: there for Joe Biden, as soon as Kamala Harris became
31:19
Speaker 9: the candidate, all of that machine stayed in place. So
31:23
Speaker 9: obviously all of those people are loyal to Biden, so
31:26
Speaker 9: any attempt to have a strategy of throwing him under
31:28
Speaker 9: the bus, they were all going to resist it. But
31:30
Speaker 9: there was somebody who was put as the cherry on
31:32
Speaker 9: top for Kamala Harris. It was a man called David Pluff. Now,
31:35
Speaker 9: David Pluff is a former the bloke who put together
31:39
Speaker 9: the two thousand and eight and twenty twelve Obama victory.
31:42
Speaker 9: Has made an awful lot of money in the private
31:44
Speaker 9: sector and political advice since, and he sort of has
31:47
Speaker 9: sat back a little bit as kind of like you know,
31:50
Speaker 9: the perfect coach of the perfect team, all the rest
31:54
Speaker 9: of it, and sort of as sat back and he
31:56
Speaker 9: didn't get involved in Hillary. And for him to now
32:00
Speaker 9: be at the heart and soul of the Harris campaign,
32:04
Speaker 9: we now have the beginnings of the fight for the narrative,
32:07
Speaker 9: and it's the Obama camp versus the Biden camp versus
32:12
Speaker 9: the Harris camp. And when you were saying that, all
32:14
Speaker 9: the reporters all said the same thing at the same time.
32:16
Speaker 9: Guess what, we all know where they were getting their information,
32:19
Speaker 9: because of course they were all being spoon fed all
32:21
Speaker 9: the way through this campaign, all being spoonfed about fifty
32:24
Speaker 9: to fifty, all being spoon fed about oh ten percent
32:27
Speaker 9: of independence and late decider is just garbage, right that
32:31
Speaker 9: they knew that would be uncritically reported on the air.
32:34
Speaker 9: But yeah, so Biden will officially speak today. He's obviously
32:37
Speaker 9: going to walk away when people start to ask questions,
32:40
Speaker 9: but pay attention because the next couple of days we're
32:43
Speaker 9: going to start to really see that the campaign of
32:46
Speaker 9: joy was not behind the.
32:48
Speaker 1: Scenes, no, one hundred percent.
32:50
Speaker 2: And you could see it in Kamala Harris's face today,
32:53
Speaker 2: and obviously she's going to be disappointed, but it was
32:56
Speaker 2: beyond it was shattered, you know, clearly, such a shock
32:59
Speaker 2: and again we're seeing that in the leaks coming out
33:02
Speaker 2: to CNN.
33:03
Speaker 1: Report is just that shock that they didn't win.
33:06
Speaker 2: And you know what's so amazing is that there's this
33:08
Speaker 2: surprise that American voters actually cared about issues like inflation
33:13
Speaker 2: and immigration more than a fear campaign about Donald Trump's character.
33:17
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just a massive misunderstanding of regular families,
33:23
Speaker 2: isn't it, Paul.
33:26
Speaker 9: Well one hundred percent. And also it's a bit of
33:28
Speaker 9: an insight, and it can happen to politicians on all
33:32
Speaker 9: of the spectrum, but it is a particular feature of
33:34
Speaker 9: a certain type of politician that we have right now
33:37
Speaker 9: on the let's be polite and say center left, but
33:39
Speaker 9: most likely further out to the left. It's what we
33:41
Speaker 9: see in and around the people around elbow right, which
33:44
Speaker 9: is never admit a mistake, just never admit a mistake.
33:48
Speaker 9: But obviously, sir, you know the building behind you is
33:51
Speaker 9: on fire. No, no, no peaceful protests. Right, This sort
33:55
Speaker 9: of Jedi mind trick stuff that they think that their
34:00
Speaker 9: incredible political science and all the rest of it means
34:03
Speaker 9: that they can somehow get you to believe, to not
34:06
Speaker 9: believe your eyes. And a perfect example of that, we say,
34:08
Speaker 9: let's go back to let's go back to when Biden
34:12
Speaker 9: is clearly you know, the computer ain't connected anymore and
34:14
Speaker 9: you can start to see sort of, you know, those
34:16
Speaker 9: pupils getting bigger and bigger. Oh, that's a cheap fake
34:19
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a made up word. They literally made
34:21
Speaker 9: up words to distract from the reality of what was happening.
34:25
Speaker 9: And I think as well that that part of the
34:28
Speaker 9: part of the problem for Harris was Okay, let's let's
34:32
Speaker 9: imagine that you and I are in the same scenario. Okay,
34:36
Speaker 9: now you know you've been my vice president and I'm
34:40
Speaker 9: turning around and clearly I can't do the job. But
34:42
Speaker 9: imagine that we've been friends for four years, so much
34:44
Speaker 9: so that you're the vice president. Well, I would say
34:47
Speaker 9: to you, look, mate, I get it, do whatever you can,
34:50
Speaker 9: throw me under the bus. I just want you to win.
34:52
Speaker 9: But clearly that conversation never took place, and I think
34:54
Speaker 9: that's because there was a very poor relationship between these two.
34:58
Speaker 9: Remember ninety plus per cent of her staff walked out
35:02
Speaker 9: of her office. So you know, again, when you lose,
35:06
Speaker 9: everything that anyone's ever said that's bad about you is true,
35:10
Speaker 9: and when you win, everyone's a genius and every little thing.
35:13
Speaker 9: But I think I think today's story is this peak
35:17
Speaker 9: behind the curtain at at how chaotic things were, and surprise, surprise,
35:23
Speaker 9: the American voters could just see straight through it. They
35:25
Speaker 9: know they were being bs two, and they know that
35:27
Speaker 9: there was this performance of this happy, go lucky person
35:30
Speaker 9: who the second they got the worst possible news of
35:33
Speaker 9: losing an election, said to tens of thousands of people
35:35
Speaker 9: who turned up, bugger off, I'll see them morrow.
35:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And just the lack of substance. And really,
35:41
Speaker 2: I think Brett Baya was the biggest journalistic star of
35:44
Speaker 2: this campaign because he was the only person who did
35:47
Speaker 2: a proper interview. Paul, By the way, I loved your
35:49
Speaker 2: idea of us being president and VP. Can you imagine
35:53
Speaker 2: if we were in charge of the world.
35:54
Speaker 1: I'm actually glad, actually glad we're not.
35:57
Speaker 9: Can you imagine? Can you imagine that sand you can
36:00
Speaker 9: hear is the media writers of The Guardian's heads exploding
36:03
Speaker 9: it that suggestion.
36:04
Speaker 2: On my number one thing would be helping Israel blow
36:09
Speaker 2: up Iran's nuclear site.
36:11
Speaker 1: So yeah, everyone wants to from the White House.
36:16
Speaker 9: Look at you already dreaming and having the button.
36:18
Speaker 1: It was a metaphor to tell a story, and you're
36:21
Speaker 1: playing out it.
36:21
Speaker 14: Anyway, God love you.
36:23
Speaker 9: I will reserve the pleasure of the president.
36:26
Speaker 2: I think you were the president and I was your
36:28
Speaker 2: VP in that scenario.
36:29
Speaker 1: But anyway, Paul, you've got, but then.
36:32
Speaker 9: I was too old and then you replace me.
36:34
Speaker 1: Okay, exactly, Paul.
36:37
Speaker 2: We're going to have more of your fun and sharp
36:40
Speaker 2: analysis at nine o'clock tonight. Again, your coverage has been
36:44
Speaker 2: just sensational. No one can miss it. Paul, Thank you
36:47
Speaker 2: very much. We'll see you at nine.
36:49
Speaker 20: Thank you.
36:49
Speaker 9: Doll.
36:50
Speaker 2: Now still to come Turnbulls warning to Alban Easy about
36:54
Speaker 2: Trump and how the ABC was devastated with Trump's when
36:59
Speaker 2: all of this and more after this quick break, welcome back. Well,
37:06
Speaker 2: the ABC is meant to be impartial, but it has
37:09
Speaker 2: a poor record when it comes to well, virtually every topic,
37:13
Speaker 2: and its coverage of the US election has been no different.
37:17
Speaker 2: My colleague Chris Kenny did a brilliant job tonight in
37:20
Speaker 2: his editorial exposing ABC bias. Here's a little bit of
37:25
Speaker 2: what he had to say tonight, and he played a
37:28
Speaker 2: grab from John Lyons, a well known critic of Israel.
37:32
Speaker 19: He's very much building a campaign based on fear. It's
37:36
Speaker 19: fear of the enemy within.
37:38
Speaker 14: It's fear of so.
37:39
Speaker 19: Called Venezuelan gangs who are with military grade weapons. It's
37:44
Speaker 19: fear of, you know, this country being swamped. It's fear
37:48
Speaker 19: of the future versus Kamala Harris's very much building something
37:53
Speaker 19: looking at the future and hope. And so, to almost
37:57
Speaker 19: use a pun, the question is will will fear Trump
38:01
Speaker 19: hope fear versus hope?
38:03
Speaker 1: Listen to him?
38:05
Speaker 14: What planet is he on your tax dollars? Sent that
38:08
Speaker 14: blug to Washington?
38:11
Speaker 2: And furthermore, it was actually Trump who was giving families
38:14
Speaker 2: hope for their future, while Kamala Harris was instilling fear
38:18
Speaker 2: about who she called a fascist Republican leader and the
38:22
Speaker 2: end of democracy and basically the end of days should
38:26
Speaker 2: Trump win. And by the way, if you missed Chris's
38:28
Speaker 2: show at five o'clock today, you have got to go
38:30
Speaker 2: back and watch the rest of that editorial on the
38:32
Speaker 2: media bias, because John Lyons did then go on to
38:35
Speaker 2: say how Trump's win would be devastating for Palestinians and
38:39
Speaker 2: for Lebanese people, whereas, in fact, as Chris pointed out,
38:44
Speaker 2: Trump's win is the best chance for regional peace, peace
38:48
Speaker 2: through strength, not through constant demands of a ceasefire, not
38:53
Speaker 2: through ultimatums, not through threatening not to send in a
38:57
Speaker 2: weapons and all the while giving billillions of dollars to Iran,
39:01
Speaker 2: which inevitably funds terrorism to discuss. Let's bring in now
39:06
Speaker 2: former defense intelligence analyst Paul Monk and senior fellow at
39:10
Speaker 2: the Menzies Research Center, Nick Cat.
39:12
Speaker 1: Paul and Nick. Wonderful to see you both. Nick.
39:15
Speaker 2: That sort of commentary from the ABC is atrocious, isn't it.
39:19
Speaker 2: I mean, saying that Americans had a choice between fear
39:23
Speaker 2: and hope when seventy two zero point six million people
39:27
Speaker 2: voted for Trump.
39:28
Speaker 1: I mean, how is that impartial?
39:32
Speaker 21: Is that really the best signs could do? I mean
39:35
Speaker 21: it's such a cliche, isn't it. What does he actually
39:37
Speaker 21: mean fear and hope? It's just as you say, it's atrocious.
39:41
Speaker 21: It's what we've come to expect from this particular bloke,
39:44
Speaker 21: John Lyons. I mean you saw, you've seen his coverage
39:47
Speaker 21: out of the Middle East and how biased that is
39:49
Speaker 21: really towards the Palestinians and towards the Muslim Cause it's
39:54
Speaker 21: really terrible. The job is done there and thank goodness
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Speaker 21: you you and over and did more in a week
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Speaker 21: over there to correct the balance than he'd done in
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Speaker 21: all the time he's spent there. I think it's enormously disappointing.
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Speaker 21: It does go to show those showing that this US
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Speaker 21: election touched a lot of nerves around the world amongst
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Speaker 21: people of show we say, our woke disposition, who are
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Speaker 21: now really nervous about this pushback and really insulting about
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Speaker 21: the kind of people who vote for Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 21: I guess the sort of people that would vote for
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Speaker 21: Nigel Farage or even Peter Dunt for that matter. They
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Speaker 21: hate these people.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, how do you read this?
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Speaker 2: Do you think this is part of a perhaps even
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Speaker 2: a global trend to reject this woke elite.
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Speaker 8: Well, it'd certainly come to the surface strongly in this case.
40:46
Speaker 8: And if I may briefly just go back to the
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Speaker 8: point that Nick was making, One would have expected of
40:52
Speaker 8: a serious national broadcast that the first thing they would
40:55
Speaker 8: have said is what an astonishing result. We got this wrong?
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Speaker 8: All the polsters got it wrong again? How can that be?
41:04
Speaker 8: This is a profound question for any serious journalist to
41:06
Speaker 8: ask that instead they're simply lamenting it and siding with
41:10
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris's really, on the face of it, a scandal.
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Speaker 8: So that'd be my first observation. Secondly, though, I think
41:18
Speaker 8: that it is that you've got to say a great
41:21
Speaker 8: demonstration of what democracy is about that this can happen.
41:24
Speaker 8: I mean, nobody can say that this election was fiddled.
41:28
Speaker 8: It was fair, it was free, it was meticulously recorded,
41:32
Speaker 8: and the American people made clear they knew very well
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Speaker 8: who Donald Trump was, they'd had seen him before his president,
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Speaker 8: and they voted in their tens of minutes for it.
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Speaker 8: That should be what's been closely analyzed, not disparaged by
41:44
Speaker 8: any series broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I think the personality attacks ultimately didn't work,
41:50
Speaker 2: because voters knew who they were getting. You know, there
41:52
Speaker 2: were no surprises there. Now let's have a look at
41:55
Speaker 2: former Prime Minister Malcolm Turbule. He came out today to
41:58
Speaker 2: one alban easy not to suck up to Trump.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 22: I stood up to him, stood my ground in kurd
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Speaker 22: Is wrath. One is respect, and then got very good
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Speaker 22: outcomes for Australia. But that does require some determination and
42:14
Speaker 22: you know, some courage perhaps, but you've got to be
42:17
Speaker 22: you've got to be forthright, and so that personal relationship
42:22
Speaker 22: has got to be one grounded in respect. And what
42:25
Speaker 22: Trump respects is strength. So if you suck up to Trump,
42:29
Speaker 22: you'll just get You just have to do more sucking up.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that, Nick, What do you think
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Speaker 2: do you think? I think flattery probably would work a
42:38
Speaker 2: genuine respect more than having an argument.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 21: Look, it's a funny way I'm looking at it, isn't
42:45
Speaker 21: it whether you suck up to him or whether you
42:47
Speaker 21: show weakness. I just hope that our Prime minister would
42:50
Speaker 21: go and represent Australia's interest very strongly. But also I
42:54
Speaker 21: think respect the respect the president for what he is.
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Speaker 21: He's a man who represents the largest democracy or the
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Speaker 21: most largest economy in the world and the most powerful democracy,
43:08
Speaker 21: the greatest force for good of the last century. He
43:12
Speaker 21: deserves enormous respect. And what worries me I think about
43:15
Speaker 21: Albanesi and it's some of the things he said, and
43:17
Speaker 21: indeed our ambassador Washington, Kevin Rader, is they haven't been
43:21
Speaker 21: very respective towards him. I think they need to be.
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Speaker 2: Paul, what do you think is the best way for
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Speaker 2: Australia to deal with the new administration.
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Speaker 8: It seems to me what the Albanizi government needs to
43:34
Speaker 8: do is to demonstrate not by faming and not by
43:39
Speaker 8: ideological confrontation. If that's what meant is that's what turble
43:44
Speaker 8: means by standing up to Trump or being strong, but
43:48
Speaker 8: rather by demonstrating indeeds as well as in words, that
43:52
Speaker 8: we are in fact a robust ally of the Pax American,
43:55
Speaker 8: that we see American's role in the world as supremely important.
43:59
Speaker 8: We don't regret our saventy years compromised by that alliance,
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Speaker 8: and we do see that there are dangerous in the
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Speaker 8: world at the moment. We want to stand with the
44:06
Speaker 8: US in buttressing that world order that we wouldn't respect.
44:11
Speaker 8: I feel confident in saying.
44:14
Speaker 2: Just on a local politics topic, the Albanezy government's going
44:17
Speaker 2: to convene a special national Cabinet meeting tomorrow to raise
44:22
Speaker 2: the age of social media to sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 15: The onness will be on social media platforms to demonstrate
44:29
Speaker 15: they are taking reasonable steps to prevent access. The owners
44:33
Speaker 15: won't be on parents or young people. There will be
44:37
Speaker 15: no penalties for users.
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Speaker 23: What our approach does is helps to achieve a balance
44:42
Speaker 23: between minimizing those harms that are caused by young people
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Speaker 23: accessing social media while still enabling connection and inclusion.
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Speaker 2: Nick most parents will welcome this move, but we still
44:55
Speaker 2: don't have the detail on how this is actually going
44:57
Speaker 2: to work.
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Speaker 21: And look, I think parents have a central role to
45:03
Speaker 21: play here, and what the government should be doing is
45:05
Speaker 21: pushing the social media companies, particularly Apple and Google, who
45:08
Speaker 21: control the apps, to give parents access and control over
45:14
Speaker 21: what their children are doing online. This has been lacking
45:18
Speaker 21: up to now. Up to now, it's been easier for
45:20
Speaker 21: an employer to get control over what his employee is
45:23
Speaker 21: doing online than it has been for a parent. This
45:26
Speaker 21: has to change, and I think the pressure on big
45:29
Speaker 21: tech needs to be to empower parents to take the
45:32
Speaker 21: primary role in looking after their children online.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult if you leave it up
45:37
Speaker 2: to parents because peer pressure comes into it, and no
45:40
Speaker 2: parent wants their child to be left out of the
45:43
Speaker 2: social circle. So I think I've got a different view
45:45
Speaker 2: on that, Paul. Just another topic related to social media.
45:51
Speaker 2: We saw today that Canada took action to band TikTok.
45:54
Speaker 2: Australia still hasn't done.
45:55
Speaker 8: This, yes, and it raises fascinating issues. And I would
46:02
Speaker 8: have thought that because TikTok is grounded in Beijing, because
46:07
Speaker 8: like all Chinese companies, it is penetrated by the Communist
46:12
Speaker 8: Party and it's used to pick up data about people.
46:17
Speaker 8: We shouldn't be in doubt about that, then it's a
46:20
Speaker 8: problem for the Western democracy. So if we're trying to
46:23
Speaker 8: sort out the way in which we're going to relate
46:25
Speaker 8: to China in commercial terms, we should be looking very
46:29
Speaker 8: seriously at that kind of issue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Nick Hater, Paul Monk, really appreciate
46:34
Speaker 2: your insights.
46:36
Speaker 1: Now still to come.
46:37
Speaker 2: Ray Hardley's shock news today that he's leaving the air
46:40
Speaker 2: waves his voice is a huge loss.
46:42
Speaker 1: My thoughts after the break.
46:47
Speaker 2: Well sad news today that Ray Hardley has called time
46:50
Speaker 2: when he's more than forty year career. The two GB
46:54
Speaker 2: host announced he was leaving his gig live on air
46:57
Speaker 2: this morning.
46:59
Speaker 24: My children, Dan, Laura, Emma and Sarah have made sacrifices
47:03
Speaker 24: over the years for me to realize my ambitions. Seven
47:06
Speaker 24: years ago I had no grand children. Now I have seven.
47:08
Speaker 24: I want to spend more time in the company of Avat, Noah, Ella, Lala, Tommy,
47:13
Speaker 24: Remi and Miller, along with him, Mum and Dad. Over
47:16
Speaker 24: three years ago I married the mast amazing woman Sophie
47:19
Speaker 24: Forever eighteen years she's been my colleague. Now she's the
47:22
Speaker 24: most supportive, coming, loving wife anyone could ask for, and
47:25
Speaker 24: she deserves a break. If I copied in the newspaper
47:28
Speaker 24: on other media, she gets more upset than I do.
47:32
Speaker 1: Now.
47:32
Speaker 2: Ray's career has been amazing. He actually started out as
47:35
Speaker 2: a taxi driver. It was a chance meeting with a
47:38
Speaker 2: two UI news director in nineteen eighty that led to
47:41
Speaker 2: his radio career and since he took over as breakfast
47:46
Speaker 2: as morning host on two GB, he's unbeaten and unbeatable.
47:51
Speaker 2: He's won one hundred and sixty consecutive ratings surveys. He
47:55
Speaker 2: was inducted into the Acohol of Fame back in twenty seventeen.
47:58
Speaker 2: He's the most awarded broadcaster in the history of the ACRAS.
48:03
Speaker 2: But most importantly to me, since October seven, Ray has
48:07
Speaker 2: been a really strong voice on anti Semitism an ally
48:12
Speaker 2: of the Jewish community. He hasn't been recognized enough for this.
48:16
Speaker 2: He didn't do it because it was easy. He did
48:18
Speaker 2: it because it was the right thing to do. I've
48:21
Speaker 2: personally been so grateful for his support. I don't know
48:24
Speaker 2: what we're going to do without his strong voice on
48:26
Speaker 2: these critical issues every single morning. He deserves more credit
48:32
Speaker 2: for this. I wish he wasn't leaving. Ray Hadley and
48:35
Speaker 2: by the way he's going to be on with Paul
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Speaker 2: Murray in a moment. I'll see you all on Monday
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Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Thank you for watching this week. And
48:42
Speaker 2: here's Paul