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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today's two stories are about gruesome deaths that totally baffled
- 0:04Speaker 1: everybody involved in investigating them. Now, at first the cases
- 0:08Speaker 1: did seem relatively simple, at least on the surface, but
- 0:12Speaker 1: as investigators looked closer, what they found was really going
- 0:16Speaker 1: on was completely out of this world. But before we
- 0:19Speaker 1: get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the strange,
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- 0:45Speaker 1: get into today's stories. One evening in eighteen ninety, a
- 1:04Speaker 1: young man named Todayo Falencio Mahia laid in bed inside
- 1:08Speaker 1: of this big, expensive mansion that he'd recently bought in Guanajato, Mexico.
- 1:12Speaker 1: And Todayo was feeling really miserable because he was sick
- 1:16Speaker 1: with a fever, and so he rolled over and he
- 1:18Speaker 1: let out this long, agonizing sigh. And then he heard
- 1:22Speaker 1: his wife, Maria come into the room, and he looked
- 1:24Speaker 1: up and he saw that she had a cup of
- 1:25Speaker 1: tea in her hand, and she walked over and she
- 1:28Speaker 1: set it on his bedside table. And even though TODAYO,
- 1:30Speaker 1: I mean he really felt physically terrible, it was like
- 1:33Speaker 1: the instant his wife was right next to him, you know,
- 1:35Speaker 1: taking care of him. Just her presence, it made him smile.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Now TODAYO and Maria had actually only recently gotten married,
- 1:43Speaker 1: but TODAYO was like head over heels in love with her.
- 1:46Speaker 1: She was smart, she was fun, she was very caring,
- 1:49Speaker 1: she was beautiful, and so far their life together, despite
- 1:53Speaker 1: it being relatively short, so far had gotten off to
- 1:56Speaker 1: a really nice start. So TODAYO had not been born wealthy,
- 1:59Speaker 1: but he had worked his way up to becoming a
- 2:01Speaker 1: very successful mining engineer. And then after becoming very wealthy
- 2:05Speaker 1: and successful, he had met Maria, fallen in love with her.
- 2:09Speaker 1: They'd gotten engaged really quickly, and TODAYO had actually bought
- 2:13Speaker 1: her this huge mansion they were in right now as
- 2:15Speaker 1: a wedding president. And this mansion, this home really was
- 2:18Speaker 1: ideal for both of them, not just because it was
- 2:21Speaker 1: a beautiful, grand home, but also because the town it
- 2:25Speaker 1: was in, Guanahato, was where Todayo worked, and it was
- 2:28Speaker 1: also where Maria's whole family lived, so it was perfect.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Plus the neighborhood was clean, it was quiet, it was safe,
- 2:34Speaker 1: and the neighbors, for the most part, were all also
- 2:37Speaker 1: upper class professionals, just like Todayo, so they fit right in.
- 2:40Speaker 1: So for Todayo, his amazing wife, his big house, and
- 2:44Speaker 1: his nice neighborhood, those all felt like symbols of his
- 2:47Speaker 1: great success. So on this night, although today did obviously
- 2:53Speaker 1: feel very sick, he also felt really proud and very
- 2:56Speaker 1: satisfied with his life. And so right after his wife
- 2:59Speaker 1: sat down next to him on the bed, Todayo sat up.
- 3:01Speaker 1: He smiled at her again, and he grabbed the tea
- 3:04Speaker 1: she had brought for him, and he took a sip
- 3:06Speaker 1: of it, and then Maria she smiled back at him.
- 3:09Speaker 1: But then she looked at him with an almost apologetic
- 3:11Speaker 1: look on her face and said that, you know, she
- 3:14Speaker 1: did have to go right now or she was going
- 3:16Speaker 1: to be late for dinner with her family. And when
- 3:18Speaker 1: she said this, Todayo felt a little bit uneasy. So
- 3:22Speaker 1: Maria went to her family's house for dinner a lot
- 3:24Speaker 1: since they lived walking distance away. But normally, TODAYO physically
- 3:29Speaker 1: walked her there because to get to her family's house,
- 3:32Speaker 1: Maria had to leave their safe neighborhood where they lived
- 3:36Speaker 1: and pass along a couple of sketchier streets, And so
- 3:39Speaker 1: today I was always concerned that if she was walking
- 3:42Speaker 1: in those areas without him that she might get mugged
- 3:45Speaker 1: or attacked or something. She was vulnerable. But today O
- 3:48Speaker 1: clearly was just way too sick to walk her that night,
- 3:52Speaker 1: and so he told her that he was really worried
- 3:54Speaker 1: about her going alone. But Maria sort of brushed him
- 3:57Speaker 1: off and said, you know, everything was going to be
- 3:58Speaker 1: just fine. She leaned over, she gave him a kiss,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and she said goodbye, and then she got up, she
- 4:04Speaker 1: grabbed her handbag, and he watched her leave a few
- 4:07Speaker 1: hours later. TODAYO was still in bed, sort of half
- 4:10Speaker 1: asleep when he heard these sudden, frantic knocks at his
- 4:14Speaker 1: front door that didn't stop. Somebody was banging on his
- 4:17Speaker 1: door over and over again. And Todayo's first thought was
- 4:20Speaker 1: that it must be Maria, but Maria obviously had a
- 4:23Speaker 1: key to their house, so he didn't know why she'd
- 4:26Speaker 1: be knocking, but the knocking sounded so panicked that he
- 4:29Speaker 1: immediately felt like something must be wrong here. So, even
- 4:33Speaker 1: though TODAYO was very groggy still and quite feverish, he
- 4:36Speaker 1: leaped out of bed and rushed to the door and
- 4:39Speaker 1: flung it open. But when he looked outside, he didn't
- 4:42Speaker 1: see Maria. He saw a small group of his neighbors,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and they all seemed really freaked out, like something had
- 4:49Speaker 1: happened clearly, and one of them actually looked at TODAYO
- 4:52Speaker 1: with tears in her eyes, and she said that today
- 4:55Speaker 1: O needed to come with them. Just minutes later, Today
- 4:58Speaker 1: I was led over to the entrance of the alleyway
- 5:00Speaker 1: that was right outside of his nice, quiet neighborhood. And
- 5:04Speaker 1: over here there were all these people that had sort
- 5:06Speaker 1: of swarmed around the entrance to this alleyway. And as
- 5:10Speaker 1: soon as he got there, TODAYO could see that the
- 5:12Speaker 1: alleyway itself was swarming with police. And so today he
- 5:16Speaker 1: pushed through the crowd because he's starting to panic, like,
- 5:18Speaker 1: what's going on here? Where's Maria. He gets through the
- 5:21Speaker 1: crowd and he looks into the alleyway. This is his
- 5:23Speaker 1: first unobstructed view, and it's very clear that in the
- 5:27Speaker 1: middle of the alleyway, something's on the ground, And when
- 5:29Speaker 1: police sort of stepped out of the way, he could
- 5:32Speaker 1: tell what was on the ground was his wife's body.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Maria had been stabbed in the back and she was
- 5:38Speaker 1: now lying face down on the pavement, surrounded by blood. Today,
- 5:41Speaker 1: Oh was so shocked and still so feverish that it's
- 5:45Speaker 1: like he couldn't even process what he was seeing. I mean,
- 5:48Speaker 1: it all seemed like this just had to be fake
- 5:49Speaker 1: or something like, this can't be real. So when a
- 5:52Speaker 1: police officer came over and asked today, Oh, if he
- 5:55Speaker 1: was the victim's husband, all TODAYO could do was just
- 5:58Speaker 1: slowly not and just stared his wife's body. And then
- 6:02Speaker 1: you know, at some point the officer asked him, like,
- 6:04Speaker 1: where were you tonight? Do you have any idea what
- 6:05Speaker 1: happened to your wife? But today, it's like he was
- 6:08Speaker 1: hearing these words but just couldn't process it, and so
- 6:11Speaker 1: he didn't say anything. He just continued to nod and
- 6:14Speaker 1: just stared at his wife. Later that night, today I
- 6:17Speaker 1: was back at his home, just sitting on his couch
- 6:20Speaker 1: in a total days just shivering. I mean, he was
- 6:22Speaker 1: shivering from his fever, from the sweat that was all
- 6:25Speaker 1: over his body, and he was also just shivering from
- 6:28Speaker 1: coming down from having this huge surge of adrenaline after
- 6:31Speaker 1: seeing his wife dead in the alleyway. But more than anything,
- 6:35Speaker 1: he was just like frozen. I mean, he could barely
- 6:37Speaker 1: remember even getting back to his house and so now
- 6:40Speaker 1: he just like sat there like he had no idea
- 6:43Speaker 1: what he was going to do. But eventually his body
- 6:45Speaker 1: became so exhausted that he just shut down. He keeled
- 6:48Speaker 1: over on the couch and he just passed out right there.
- 6:51Speaker 1: And at some point in the night, Todayo began happing
- 6:54Speaker 1: this horrifying fever dream. In this dream, Todayo was looking
- 6:58Speaker 1: out the window from his living room and he could
- 7:01Speaker 1: see Maria and she was stumbling down the road and
- 7:03Speaker 1: there was this huge trail of blood behind her, and
- 7:06Speaker 1: she was screaming for Todayo to help her. And then
- 7:09Speaker 1: suddenly Todayo woke back up again and he found himself
- 7:12Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and he sort of took stock
- 7:14Speaker 1: of where he was. He realized that was just a dream,
- 7:17Speaker 1: and then he realized he was drenched in sweat and
- 7:19Speaker 1: his heart was racing, like that dream felt so real.
- 7:23Speaker 1: But then as he was just sitting there in stunned silence,
- 7:26Speaker 1: just sort of processing that that really was a dream.
- 7:29Speaker 1: He heard something that immediately gave him goosebumps. He could
- 7:32Speaker 1: hear somewhere in the distance the sound of his wife's
- 7:35Speaker 1: voice calling his name. Over the next few days, Todayo's
- 7:40Speaker 1: fever went away, but his fever dreams, or his his
- 7:43Speaker 1: nightmares he was having about his wife calling out for him,
- 7:47Speaker 1: those didn't stop. And every once in a while, when
- 7:50Speaker 1: he would wake up from one of these horrible nightmares,
- 7:52Speaker 1: he would again hear the sound of Maria calling to him,
- 7:56Speaker 1: and it was like always so clear. He knows he's
- 7:58Speaker 1: awake again, he knows he's he's not dreaming anymore, and
- 8:01Speaker 1: he would hear her voice. He was certain it was her,
- 8:04Speaker 1: but he could never tell where the sound of her
- 8:06Speaker 1: voice was coming from. After he would wake up from
- 8:09Speaker 1: these dreams, he couldn't tell if she was calling from
- 8:11Speaker 1: outside the house or inside the house, or if it
- 8:14Speaker 1: was just in his own head. But it didn't matter.
- 8:16Speaker 1: I mean, every time it felt so real, like that
- 8:19Speaker 1: was not a part of the dream, that was real life,
- 8:22Speaker 1: and it was terrifying. At the same time that Todayo
- 8:25Speaker 1: was grappling with the loss of his wife, and he's
- 8:27Speaker 1: having these terrible nightmares, and he's trying to like pick
- 8:30Speaker 1: the pieces of his life back up and put them
- 8:31Speaker 1: back together. He also was going to the police to
- 8:35Speaker 1: try to get more information about what happened to his wife,
- 8:38Speaker 1: like what did they find in the alleyway, like who
- 8:40Speaker 1: could have done this? What happened, But unfortunately the police
- 8:43Speaker 1: really hadn't learned much so far. They didn't know who
- 8:46Speaker 1: did this, they hadn't found a murder weapon, and they
- 8:49Speaker 1: told Todayo that when they found his wife's body, she
- 8:52Speaker 1: didn't have any personal belongings near her. And TODAYO said, well,
- 8:56Speaker 1: she should have had her handbag. She left the house
- 8:58Speaker 1: with her handbag, she should have had with her, and
- 9:01Speaker 1: so the police said, well, no, it wasn't there. So
- 9:03Speaker 1: maybe what this is is just a robbery gone wrong,
- 9:06Speaker 1: and they took her purse and they killed her in
- 9:08Speaker 1: the process. Now, today I didn't doubt that that could
- 9:11Speaker 1: have been what happened to his wife. I mean, one
- 9:14Speaker 1: of his chief fears about his wife walking alone in
- 9:17Speaker 1: those sketchier neighborhoods was the fear that she might be attacked,
- 9:20Speaker 1: she might be mugged, and so very likely that could
- 9:23Speaker 1: have happened. But today I wanted the police to fully
- 9:26Speaker 1: investigate and figure out, like who did this? Was it
- 9:29Speaker 1: a robbery gone wrong? He wanted to know for sure
- 9:32Speaker 1: who did it? Find them, like, bring them to justice.
- 9:34Speaker 1: He wanted answers, and the police were very committed to
- 9:38Speaker 1: trying to get him those answers. But unfortunately days turned
- 9:42Speaker 1: into weeks, turned into months with no updates, And today
- 9:45Speaker 1: I was left feeling like, what's going to happen here?
- 9:48Speaker 1: Have they forgotten about my wife? Like? Is there just nothing?
- 9:52Speaker 1: Like is no one going to be held to account
- 9:54Speaker 1: for what happened? And so after a few months of
- 9:56Speaker 1: just relative silence and just feeling like he can't move
- 9:59Speaker 1: on with his life without some sort of closure here,
- 10:02Speaker 1: today I found himself feeling overwhelmed by really three emotions.
- 10:07Speaker 1: There was grief over the loss of his wife. There
- 10:09Speaker 1: was anger at what he viewed was just ultimately police
- 10:12Speaker 1: incompetence or police you know, laziness or deprioritization of his
- 10:16Speaker 1: wife's case. And guilt because in a way he did
- 10:21Speaker 1: feel responsible for his wife's death if he had just
- 10:24Speaker 1: sucked it up and despite being sick, walked her to
- 10:27Speaker 1: her family's house, maybe he could have protected her. Also,
- 10:30Speaker 1: he thought about the fact that he was the one
- 10:32Speaker 1: who bought this house, and so in virtue of putting
- 10:35Speaker 1: her here, she had to walk that route to see
- 10:37Speaker 1: her family, and so in that way as well, he
- 10:40Speaker 1: jeopardized her safety. He sort of pushed her into the
- 10:43Speaker 1: environment where she was killed. And so he was feeling really,
- 10:45Speaker 1: really guilty. And so because of all these horrible feelings,
- 10:48Speaker 1: today I was feeling combined with still no word on
- 10:52Speaker 1: who actually did this to his wife or why, today
- 10:56Speaker 1: I felt like he was basically losing his mind. He
- 10:58Speaker 1: stopped going to work and instead just spent all hours
- 11:01Speaker 1: basically sitting in his living room staring out the window.
- 11:05Speaker 1: It was like there was some part of him that thought,
- 11:07Speaker 1: if he just waited long enough, he would see Maria
- 11:10Speaker 1: walking down the street towards him, calling out to him,
- 11:12Speaker 1: like he had seen her so many times in his nightmares,
- 11:15Speaker 1: right out this window. And at the same time, today,
- 11:19Speaker 1: more and more was convinced he could hear the sound
- 11:22Speaker 1: of Maria calling out to him basically at all hours,
- 11:25Speaker 1: whether he had just come out of one of those
- 11:27Speaker 1: awful nightmares which he was still having, or if it
- 11:30Speaker 1: was just the middle of the day and he's just
- 11:31Speaker 1: sitting there looking out the window, like not asleep at all.
- 11:34Speaker 1: He would still hear her voice. Didn't know if it
- 11:36Speaker 1: was inside the house outside in his head, he didn't know,
- 11:39Speaker 1: but it was like she was constantly on his mind,
- 11:41Speaker 1: either because he was waiting to see her out the
- 11:43Speaker 1: window or he was waiting to hear her. It was
- 11:46Speaker 1: like all consuming Maria was the only thing he thought about.
- 11:49Speaker 1: And eventually, Todayo began to believe that the reason he
- 11:53Speaker 1: was feeling the way he was feeling was not just
- 11:56Speaker 1: overwhelming grief like the dreams he was having the nightmares
- 12:00Speaker 1: hearing his wife calling to him at all hours and
- 12:02Speaker 1: believing he was going to see her out this window,
- 12:04Speaker 1: that that wasn't grief, that in fact, it was his
- 12:07Speaker 1: wife's spirit contacting him. That she was basically telling him
- 12:12Speaker 1: that she cannot rest until her murder is solved. And today,
- 12:17Speaker 1: when he realized that that was what was going on
- 12:19Speaker 1: from his perspective, he realized that he had to take
- 12:22Speaker 1: matters into his own hands. He needed, for the sake
- 12:25Speaker 1: of his wife, to solve her murder so she could
- 12:28Speaker 1: finally rest. And so today he retraced his wife's steps,
- 12:32Speaker 1: He interviewed his neighbors, he searched all over town for
- 12:35Speaker 1: her handbag and for the knife that was used to
- 12:38Speaker 1: kill her. But despite how motivated he was to try
- 12:41Speaker 1: to solve this thing and do right by his wife,
- 12:44Speaker 1: he didn't uncover anything new. There was no new leads,
- 12:47Speaker 1: no new evidence, no clues, nothing. It was one dead
- 12:50Speaker 1: end after another. However, over the course of Todayo's investigation
- 12:54Speaker 1: into his wife's death, one thing did become increasingly clear
- 13:00Speaker 1: was Guanawato was not nearly as safe as everybody thought. First,
- 13:06Speaker 1: a drifter passing through Guanawata was kidnapped. Now nobody really
- 13:11Speaker 1: connected this to Todayo's wife's murder, at least not at first,
- 13:15Speaker 1: because this person who went missing, they were never found,
- 13:18Speaker 1: and so it was not really clear what happened to them.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Wasn't clear if they were killed. There was no clear
- 13:22Speaker 1: overlaps between this person and Maria, and so at first
- 13:26Speaker 1: it was just this thing that happened in Guanahata and
- 13:29Speaker 1: nobody connected it to Maria. But then about a week
- 13:32Speaker 1: after that person got kidnapped, another woman who lived on
- 13:36Speaker 1: the outskirts of town, she disappeared, and then just days
- 13:39Speaker 1: after that, another man went missing. Now, in each of
- 13:42Speaker 1: these three new disappearances, none of them were found. They
- 13:46Speaker 1: literally just disappeared and that was it. Nobody knew what
- 13:49Speaker 1: happened to them. But you know, as TODAYO is out
- 13:53Speaker 1: there talking to people and trying to figure out what's
- 13:55Speaker 1: going on with his wife, more and more people in
- 13:57Speaker 1: town began to say, like, this is not a safe place,
- 14:01Speaker 1: Like what if there's a serial killer on the loose
- 14:03Speaker 1: here and your wife could have been the first victim.
- 14:06Speaker 1: And now they're refining their methods and they're they're taking
- 14:09Speaker 1: people away and they're killing them and they're not even
- 14:11Speaker 1: being found, like that was the consensus in town. And
- 14:14Speaker 1: so today, Oh, he's hearing this new theory about a
- 14:17Speaker 1: crazed killer from the people in town, and he's still
- 14:20Speaker 1: continuing his own investigation, but it's basically going nowhere. The
- 14:23Speaker 1: police are still not giving him anything like they're continuing
- 14:26Speaker 1: their own investigation. They're hearing about this killer theory, but
- 14:30Speaker 1: that's going nowhere. And so basically TODAYO didn't know what
- 14:33Speaker 1: to do. He felt like there's a whole lot of
- 14:35Speaker 1: things that could have happened, but nobody really knows. However,
- 14:39Speaker 1: he wound up having a conversation with a very unlikely
- 14:42Speaker 1: person just a few days after that third person went missing,
- 14:46Speaker 1: and this conversation inspired a brand new approach for how
- 14:51Speaker 1: today O would figure out what happened to his wife.
- 14:54Speaker 1: It was an extreme idea, one that he certainly hadn't
- 14:57Speaker 1: thought of himself, but as soon as he heard it, we, oh, like,
- 15:01Speaker 1: this is what I gotta do. The next day, Todayo
- 15:04Speaker 1: walked down a residential street in Guanawato towards the sprawling, beautiful,
- 15:09Speaker 1: expensive looking home. His heart was racing, so to calm
- 15:12Speaker 1: himself down, he put one hand into his pocket and
- 15:15Speaker 1: he felt the cold metal of the gun that he
- 15:17Speaker 1: had brought along. So, after his conversation the day before
- 15:21Speaker 1: with this unlikely person, Todayo had completely changed his investigative approach,
- 15:27Speaker 1: and now he was fully convinced that he was right
- 15:29Speaker 1: on the cusp of finding his wife's killer, and that
- 15:32Speaker 1: the answer was actually inside of this very expensive looking home.
- 15:37Speaker 1: That's why he'd brought the gun, and it was also
- 15:40Speaker 1: why now he went up to this house and he
- 15:43Speaker 1: turned the front doorknob, and he found it was unlocked,
- 15:46Speaker 1: just like he knew it would be. Then, without knocking
- 15:49Speaker 1: or announcing himself at all. Todayo walked inside of this house.
- 15:52Speaker 1: He shut the door behind him, and he went directly
- 15:55Speaker 1: to a staircase that led down to the basement. And
- 15:58Speaker 1: standing at the top of these Todayo felt a rush
- 16:02Speaker 1: of conflicting emotions. He was so scared that he almost
- 16:06Speaker 1: wanted to turn around and run out of the house.
- 16:08Speaker 1: But he was also so grief stricken and so desperate
- 16:12Speaker 1: that he felt like this was the only way he
- 16:15Speaker 1: would ever find the truth. So he took a deep,
- 16:18Speaker 1: steadying breath, and then he walked down the stairs and
- 16:22Speaker 1: what TODAYA saw in the basement looked like a scene
- 16:25Speaker 1: out of a horror movie. It was almost completely dark
- 16:28Speaker 1: down there, except for some flickering light from a couple
- 16:31Speaker 1: of tall black candles. On one side of the room,
- 16:34Speaker 1: from what he could see, there was what appeared to
- 16:37Speaker 1: be several mangled human bodies stacked up in a pile.
- 16:42Speaker 1: And on the other side of the room was like
- 16:44Speaker 1: this bizarre occult altar, and on this altar there was
- 16:50Speaker 1: a long knife, some kind of a book like a
- 16:53Speaker 1: spell book, and a chalice that was filled with human
- 16:56Speaker 1: blood and then also painted on the wall above this
- 17:00Speaker 1: altar was a red pentagram that clearly had been drawn
- 17:03Speaker 1: in blood as well. And so Todayo he just stood
- 17:05Speaker 1: there for a moment, staring at the body, staring at
- 17:08Speaker 1: the altar, the pentagram, and it was just quiet for
- 17:11Speaker 1: a moment, and then there was the sound of a
- 17:14Speaker 1: single gunshot. It didn't take long for the police to
- 17:17Speaker 1: show up at this beautiful residence after a neighbor had
- 17:20Speaker 1: reported hearing that single gunshot coming from inside. Officers pounded
- 17:24Speaker 1: on the door, and when nobody answered, they just went inside.
- 17:27Speaker 1: And once inside, the police found the home was very quiet,
- 17:30Speaker 1: very still. They looked around on the whole first floor,
- 17:34Speaker 1: but they didn't see anything unusual. But then one of
- 17:37Speaker 1: the officers found a staircase that led down to the basement,
- 17:41Speaker 1: and so down they went, and when they reached the basement,
- 17:44Speaker 1: they saw the same horrible scene that Todayo had. I mean,
- 17:48Speaker 1: it basically is like this occult layer down there, complete
- 17:51Speaker 1: with bodies and blood and altars and all this terrible stuff.
- 17:55Speaker 1: But there was something else in the basement that the
- 17:58Speaker 1: police saw that Todayo did not. So it would turn
- 18:02Speaker 1: out that when Todayo began his own investigation into his
- 18:06Speaker 1: wife's death, when he began hitting one roadblock after another,
- 18:09Speaker 1: and he's not learning anything, and it just feels like
- 18:12Speaker 1: one big dead end. Well, when that happened, he was
- 18:15Speaker 1: so frustrated, but so determined to know what happened to
- 18:18Speaker 1: his wife that he turned to a local witch and
- 18:22Speaker 1: he asked them, Hey, is there any way for me
- 18:25Speaker 1: to contact the dead directly? Like? Can I talk to
- 18:28Speaker 1: my wife and have her just just tell me who
- 18:31Speaker 1: killed her? I have to know who killed her? Like,
- 18:34Speaker 1: can you do that for me? She's already whispering to me.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I'm already having these visions in my dreams of her.
- 18:39Speaker 1: I know she's there. I just need some help. I
- 18:41Speaker 1: got to have this conversation with her. And the witch
- 18:44Speaker 1: is like, I have just the thing. There's a ritual
- 18:47Speaker 1: you can follow that if you follow all the steps exactly,
- 18:51Speaker 1: you can have that interaction with your dead wife and
- 18:54Speaker 1: you can get the information you're seeking. And so the
- 18:57Speaker 1: witch gives TODAYO this list very specific instructions which included
- 19:02Speaker 1: human sacrifice, and today he takes down all the instructions
- 19:07Speaker 1: and then he sets out trying to perform this ritual.
- 19:10Speaker 1: He goes out and he kidnaps that drifter, the first
- 19:12Speaker 1: person who went missing from town. Today O kidnapped them
- 19:16Speaker 1: and did kill them for this ritual. But after following
- 19:19Speaker 1: all the steps, TODAYO didn't get to talk to his wife.
- 19:23Speaker 1: She didn't appear, she didn't tell him who murdered her.
- 19:26Speaker 1: And so what does TODAYO do. He goes out and
- 19:29Speaker 1: kidnaps somebody else in town, that woman on the outskirts
- 19:31Speaker 1: of town. He kidnaps her, he kills her for ritual
- 19:34Speaker 1: number two, but again despite following all the steps, he
- 19:38Speaker 1: couldn't contact his wife. It didn't work, And so he
- 19:41Speaker 1: goes out again. He kidnaps that man and he kills him,
- 19:44Speaker 1: and he performs the ritual for a third time, and
- 19:46Speaker 1: it still doesn't work. And so what does he do
- 19:49Speaker 1: a few days after that third person disappeared, and everybody
- 19:52Speaker 1: in town is freaking out about a serial killer because
- 19:55Speaker 1: there actually was one. It was TODAYO. He speaks to
- 19:58Speaker 1: the witch again and says, hey, your instructions aren't working.
- 20:02Speaker 1: What do I gotta do to talk to my dead
- 20:03Speaker 1: wife here? And the Witch says, well, there's one other
- 20:07Speaker 1: way you can perform this ritual. You can be the sacrifice.
- 20:11Speaker 1: And today, Oh, He's thinking, you know, this is pretty extreme,
- 20:14Speaker 1: but I want to figure out what happened to my wife.
- 20:17Speaker 1: And so TODAYO, the now known serial killer, wanders into
- 20:21Speaker 1: his own house, his house was the big beautiful house,
- 20:25Speaker 1: into the basement of his mansion where he was keeping
- 20:28Speaker 1: the bodies of the people he was killing, and he
- 20:30Speaker 1: had his ritual he performed on the altar, and he
- 20:33Speaker 1: goes down there and he ritualistically kills himself in order
- 20:37Speaker 1: to connect with his wife. And so he shoots himself
- 20:40Speaker 1: and he dies, and then the police show up a
- 20:42Speaker 1: little bit after. They come into the basement, they see
- 20:44Speaker 1: this horrible scene. And what they saw that today O
- 20:47Speaker 1: didn't was his dead body in the middle of the floor.
- 20:50Speaker 1: And so in the end, TODAYO literally became a murderer.
- 20:54Speaker 1: He killed three people. He ended his own life, all
- 20:57Speaker 1: in an effort to try to figure out what happened
- 20:59Speaker 1: to his wife. And what happened to his wife is
- 21:02Speaker 1: it actually was just random. It was a robbery gone wrong.
- 21:19Speaker 1: On the night of April second, eighteen ninety nine, a
- 21:22Speaker 1: cowboy named Charles cosmer rode his horse through a blizzard
- 21:26Speaker 1: near Lyman County in South Dakota. He was following another
- 21:29Speaker 1: cowboy named Frank Heppa, who was also on horseback. So
- 21:33Speaker 1: Charles and Frank were both employees at this large ranch
- 21:36Speaker 1: where typically they would work with a big team, and
- 21:39Speaker 1: they had come out here with a big team, but
- 21:41Speaker 1: they'd gotten separated from the rest of their group while
- 21:43Speaker 1: tracking down some missing cattle, and so now they were
- 21:46Speaker 1: looking for somewhere to take shelter from this huge storm
- 21:49Speaker 1: which had sort of come out of nowhere. And Charles
- 21:52Speaker 1: was terrified as he rode through the storm, but not
- 21:55Speaker 1: because of the storm itself. I mean, he had ridden
- 21:58Speaker 1: through any number of big storms in the past. He
- 22:00Speaker 1: was a rugged guy, you know, And even though this
- 22:03Speaker 1: storm was quite bad, that wasn't what was making him
- 22:06Speaker 1: so fearful. What really bothered him, What really unsettled him
- 22:10Speaker 1: right now was the fact that he was out here
- 22:14Speaker 1: just with this guy Frank by himself. He was like
- 22:16Speaker 1: the last person he wanted to be around alone. So
- 22:20Speaker 1: five years ago, Charles knew that Frank here had been
- 22:24Speaker 1: charged with murder for brutally killing his business partner over
- 22:28Speaker 1: an argument about money. Now, Frank had gotten off by
- 22:31Speaker 1: claiming self defense, but as Charles had heard it, that
- 22:35Speaker 1: was pretty much impossible, and he just couldn't understand how
- 22:38Speaker 1: Frank had gotten away with it because Frank's partner, the
- 22:42Speaker 1: guy who had been killed, had literally been stabbed in
- 22:45Speaker 1: the back, So how is that self defense? So Ever,
- 22:49Speaker 1: since Charles had heard the story about one of his coworkers,
- 22:53Speaker 1: he'd devoided working one on one with Frank. And fortunately,
- 22:56Speaker 1: most of the time he was in a big group,
- 22:58Speaker 1: and so even if Frank was a part of that group,
- 23:00Speaker 1: he was never isolated with him. But the snowstorm had
- 23:03Speaker 1: thrust Charles into sort of a worst case scenario, bad storm,
- 23:08Speaker 1: isolated with a potential killer. And on top of that,
- 23:11Speaker 1: because of how bad the visibility was in the storm,
- 23:15Speaker 1: Charles didn't even know where they were. I mean, he
- 23:17Speaker 1: was lost. But as he was riding along behind Frank, Frank,
- 23:22Speaker 1: you know, despite all the issues he had with him,
- 23:24Speaker 1: he did appear to know where he was going. And
- 23:27Speaker 1: so Charles he didn't want to freeze to death out here,
- 23:29Speaker 1: so he ignored his fears and continued to follow Frank.
- 23:33Speaker 1: And for a while that's just how it went, Frank
- 23:35Speaker 1: leading Charles following in relative silence, like not much communication
- 23:39Speaker 1: between them, the storms blowing all around them. And then
- 23:42Speaker 1: eventually Charles started to notice that his horse seemed to
- 23:45Speaker 1: be getting really tired, and like that would be a
- 23:48Speaker 1: really big problem if his horse couldn't continue. Then it
- 23:51Speaker 1: didn't appear like they were near any structure or any
- 23:53Speaker 1: landmark or anything. I mean, Charles doesn't know where they are. Again,
- 23:57Speaker 1: Frank appears to have a sense of where they're going.
- 24:00Speaker 1: But right as Charles was really starting to get worried
- 24:02Speaker 1: about his horse basically not being able to make it,
- 24:05Speaker 1: suddenly the structure sort of appeared out of the darkness
- 24:08Speaker 1: up ahead of them. They really needed to get out
- 24:11Speaker 1: of the storm or else they could freeze to death,
- 24:13Speaker 1: and so this was life saving. But that also meant
- 24:16Speaker 1: that Charles now would not only have to be alone
- 24:19Speaker 1: with Frank, but he'd have to be alone with Frank
- 24:21Speaker 1: inside of a small space. And so even though Charles
- 24:25Speaker 1: knew he couldn't turn this down, he had to go
- 24:27Speaker 1: or else he could die. It was like with a
- 24:29Speaker 1: lot of reservation, you know, they go inside of this building.
- 24:33Speaker 1: A half an hour later, Charles was stoking a fire
- 24:35Speaker 1: inside of the shack's fireplace and was waiting for the
- 24:38Speaker 1: place to heat up. But already it was so much
- 24:41Speaker 1: better than being out in the storm, and so as
- 24:43Speaker 1: Charles is sort of looking around and Frank's getting his
- 24:45Speaker 1: gear together on the side of the shack, you know,
- 24:47Speaker 1: Charles noticed that there was lots of dust built up
- 24:50Speaker 1: on everything, suggesting that nobody had been in here for
- 24:53Speaker 1: a long time. This was maybe an abandoned place. He
- 24:55Speaker 1: didn't know. However, when he made a comment to Frank
- 24:59Speaker 1: about that, saying, you know, how lucky it was they
- 25:01Speaker 1: found this place, this this rundown abandoned place, Frank corrected
- 25:06Speaker 1: him and said, actually, no, luck had nothing to do
- 25:09Speaker 1: with it, and this is not really an abandoned place.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Frank said, the reason he knew this house would be
- 25:14Speaker 1: here is because he used to live here. At first,
- 25:17Speaker 1: Charles was like, oh, you know, that makes sense. You know,
- 25:20Speaker 1: that's why Frank knew where he was going. That's how
- 25:23Speaker 1: he was able to navigate the storm and get us
- 25:25Speaker 1: here because he used to live here. And so at
- 25:27Speaker 1: first Charles is like, oh, cool, that makes sense. But
- 25:30Speaker 1: then he's thinking, wait a minute, I know that. You
- 25:33Speaker 1: know Frank's business partner who Frank killed. Whether it was
- 25:36Speaker 1: self defense or just premeditated murder, you know, clearly Frank
- 25:40Speaker 1: did do the killing of his business partner. It happened, apparently,
- 25:44Speaker 1: according to the story, inside of Frank's house, and Charles
- 25:49Speaker 1: is looking around at the dust on everything inside here,
- 25:52Speaker 1: and he's thinking, wait a minute, Clearly Frank hasn't lived
- 25:54Speaker 1: here recently, and he's saying, he used to live here.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Is it possible that this show is where the killing happened?
- 26:02Speaker 1: Is this where Frank killed his business partner? This small space?
- 26:06Speaker 1: And at this point looks over at Frank, who's now
- 26:08Speaker 1: sitting on a stool by the fire, and he's eating
- 26:10Speaker 1: some beans out of a can and he's sipping some
- 26:12Speaker 1: whiskey from his flask, acting totally unbothered about potentially being
- 26:16Speaker 1: in the exact space where he killed somebody potentially, And
- 26:20Speaker 1: Charles it was like he had these spiraling thoughts of fear,
- 26:23Speaker 1: like he's looking at this guy who he doesn't want
- 26:25Speaker 1: to be around, he's in a place where maybe he's
- 26:27Speaker 1: killed someone, And it was like too much. He became
- 26:29Speaker 1: completely overwhelmed and just knew he had to go. He
- 26:33Speaker 1: had to go out of the shack and just get
- 26:35Speaker 1: away from Frank. He didn't even care that there was
- 26:37Speaker 1: a storm raging outside. He just had to get away.
- 26:41Speaker 1: And so really without coming up with a plan at all.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Charles just looks over at Frank and he's like, Ah,
- 26:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna go outside and get a breath of fresh air.
- 26:49Speaker 1: And then before Frank could say or do anything, Charles
- 26:51Speaker 1: just turned around and walked out the door, out into
- 26:54Speaker 1: the storm. Now, once Charles was outside, despite this storm
- 26:58Speaker 1: raging all around him, imediately felt a sense of relief because,
- 27:01Speaker 1: I mean, anything was better than being inside of that
- 27:04Speaker 1: horrible place with that horrible person. And so he began
- 27:07Speaker 1: walking over to the horses just to check on them
- 27:09Speaker 1: and again just kind of collect his thoughts and just
- 27:11Speaker 1: kind of center himself before he figures out what he's
- 27:14Speaker 1: going to do next. And he's walking over to the horses,
- 27:17Speaker 1: and as he's about to grab the first horse, he
- 27:20Speaker 1: hears something behind him. The next day, not far away
- 27:23Speaker 1: from the shack, a couple of ranchers were fixing a
- 27:26Speaker 1: fence that had been damaged by the big storm when
- 27:28Speaker 1: they spotted a cowboy off in the distance who was
- 27:31Speaker 1: on horseback riding through the snow. And the cowboy it
- 27:34Speaker 1: looked like something was wrong with him, like he was
- 27:36Speaker 1: very weak or something, because he was kind of slouching
- 27:38Speaker 1: to one side, like he might fall off his horse
- 27:40Speaker 1: at any moment. So the ranchers got on their own
- 27:43Speaker 1: horses and they rode over to him. And when they
- 27:45Speaker 1: pulled up alongside of him, they thought, we were right
- 27:48Speaker 1: to come over here, because this guy is a mess.
- 27:50Speaker 1: I mean, his lips were blue, his eyes were wide,
- 27:53Speaker 1: and he was just staring off into the distance like
- 27:55Speaker 1: he was in some kind of shock. And so quickly
- 27:58Speaker 1: the ranchers pulled this guy off the horse. They wrapped
- 28:00Speaker 1: him in a blanket, and after a couple of minutes,
- 28:03Speaker 1: that look of shock on his face began to fade
- 28:05Speaker 1: and color returned to his face, and they gave him
- 28:08Speaker 1: some of their hot coffee, and after a minute or two,
- 28:10Speaker 1: this guy began to talk. However, when they asked him,
- 28:13Speaker 1: like what happened? Why are you out here? Like what's
- 28:16Speaker 1: going on, all the man would say is that he
- 28:19Speaker 1: wanted to bring them back to the shack where he
- 28:21Speaker 1: had spent the night before, because apparently something really bad
- 28:26Speaker 1: had happened inside. And so eventually, this guy, this cowboy,
- 28:30Speaker 1: climbed back on his horse and he began riding back
- 28:33Speaker 1: in the direction of the shack, and the ranchers followed
- 28:36Speaker 1: along and pretty soon as they were getting closer to
- 28:39Speaker 1: the shack, the ranchers began to look at each other
- 28:41Speaker 1: with these kind of worried looks because they realized what
- 28:44Speaker 1: shack he was likely bringing them to, Like they knew
- 28:47Speaker 1: that shack. So these ranchers had lived in this area
- 28:50Speaker 1: for years, and five years ago they had helped the
- 28:54Speaker 1: local sheriff clean up the aftermath of a grizzly murder
- 28:58Speaker 1: at a nearby shack, frank Shack, and the murder was
- 29:03Speaker 1: Frank's business partner. And so these ranchers had literally seen
- 29:06Speaker 1: the body of the victim covered in blood, the knife
- 29:09Speaker 1: still in his back, lying face down on the ground
- 29:11Speaker 1: in front of the fireplace. And so now as they
- 29:14Speaker 1: were nearing where they knew the shack, was like, that's
- 29:16Speaker 1: all they're thinking about, Like, how is it possible that
- 29:19Speaker 1: this guy is saying something bad happened and he's bringing
- 29:22Speaker 1: us to the site of this grisly murder, Like it
- 29:24Speaker 1: just felt really unsettling. And so sure enough, this cowboy
- 29:29Speaker 1: leads these ranchers back to the very shack they know
- 29:32Speaker 1: so well, where that murder happened five years ago. The
- 29:35Speaker 1: cowboy gets off and he leads them inside, and the
- 29:38Speaker 1: ranchers they're looking at each other like, what are we
- 29:40Speaker 1: gonna find inside here? Like what's going on? And they
- 29:43Speaker 1: walk into this little space, this little shack, and they
- 29:46Speaker 1: can't believe what they're looking at. It was like the
- 29:49Speaker 1: most intense, really awful deja vu. On the ground in
- 29:54Speaker 1: the middle of this cabin, lying face down with the
- 29:56Speaker 1: head near the fireplace was the body of a man
- 30:00Speaker 1: in blood with a knife plunged into his back. And
- 30:04Speaker 1: so the ranchers they look at the body and then
- 30:06Speaker 1: they look over at the cowboy who's led the mire
- 30:08Speaker 1: and shown them the body, and he's not putting up
- 30:11Speaker 1: any sort of fight, and the ranchers they put their
- 30:13Speaker 1: hands on their guns and they looked to the cowboy
- 30:15Speaker 1: and they're like, who did this? Like were you the
- 30:18Speaker 1: only one here? Like was anybody else here last night?
- 30:21Speaker 1: Like what happened? And the cowboy all he said was
- 30:24Speaker 1: now it was just me. I was the only one
- 30:26Speaker 1: here besides him. And so the ranchers at this point
- 30:29Speaker 1: they didn't even know what to do, so they just
- 30:31Speaker 1: walked over. They grabbed the cowboy, who didn't resist, They
- 30:34Speaker 1: tied him up, they brought him outside, they put him
- 30:36Speaker 1: on one of their horses, and they brought him back
- 30:38Speaker 1: to town and they handed him over to the sheriff
- 30:41Speaker 1: and said he's a murderer. Two months later, in June
- 30:44Speaker 1: of eighteen ninety nine, a grand jury met to discuss
- 30:47Speaker 1: this case, and they were immediately struck by just how
- 30:50Speaker 1: closely the facts in this case matched the case from
- 30:54Speaker 1: the stabbing five years ago. The details were basically identical.
- 30:58Speaker 1: You have two cowboys who walked into this particular cabin
- 31:02Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere, and then one of
- 31:04Speaker 1: them turns up dead with a knife in his back.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Just it happened on two separate occasions, five years apart. However,
- 31:10Speaker 1: there was one major difference between the first instance and
- 31:14Speaker 1: the second instance. This time, in the second instance, the
- 31:19Speaker 1: dead man was Frank Heppa himself. The very man who
- 31:23Speaker 1: had been the killer from the first case was the
- 31:26Speaker 1: victim in the second case. The cowboy that the ranchers
- 31:29Speaker 1: had found, who was on death's door with blue lips,
- 31:32Speaker 1: who led them back out to the cabin, that was Charles.
- 31:36Speaker 1: And so today, during this grand jury hearing, when Charles
- 31:39Speaker 1: took the stand, the jurors were expecting him to say
- 31:43Speaker 1: that yes, he had stabbed Frank because who else could
- 31:46Speaker 1: have done it, but that it was very likely done
- 31:48Speaker 1: in self defense. That was their expectation of what he
- 31:51Speaker 1: would likely say, because it was really the only explanation
- 31:54Speaker 1: Charles had that might get him off the hook. But
- 31:57Speaker 1: when Charles spoke, he did not claim self defense. Instead,
- 32:02Speaker 1: he told a story that was arguably the least believable
- 32:06Speaker 1: defense he could have possibly given. He said, on the
- 32:10Speaker 1: night that Frank was killed, he had panicked because he
- 32:13Speaker 1: had realized he was inside of the very shack where
- 32:16Speaker 1: very likely this guy had stabbed to death his former partner,
- 32:19Speaker 1: and he was just so frightened by the whole experience
- 32:22Speaker 1: that he decided to go outside, get a breath of
- 32:24Speaker 1: fresh air, just get away from Frank for a second.
- 32:27Speaker 1: And Charles would say, like, he didn't even have a plan.
- 32:29Speaker 1: He didn't know if he was going to come back
- 32:31Speaker 1: in or if he was going to leave. There was
- 32:32Speaker 1: obviously a storm going on, but he said he left
- 32:35Speaker 1: the cabin and he knows Frank is the only one
- 32:38Speaker 1: inside of the cabin. At this point, Charles goes outside,
- 32:41Speaker 1: he's making his way over to the horses, and as
- 32:43Speaker 1: he's about to grab that first horse, he hears something
- 32:46Speaker 1: behind him, and he says, he thinks it's Frank, and
- 32:48Speaker 1: he whips around, but there's no one there. There's no
- 32:52Speaker 1: one outside. However, he notices in the window of this shack,
- 32:56Speaker 1: this cabin where he's just come from, he sees what
- 32:59Speaker 1: looked like a shadow moving near the window, and then
- 33:02Speaker 1: he hears loud commotion inside of the cabin. He knows
- 33:06Speaker 1: Frank's alone in there, but he doesn't know what's going on,
- 33:08Speaker 1: and so he runs back over to the cabin just
- 33:10Speaker 1: out of curiosity. He opens the door back up and
- 33:13Speaker 1: he looks inside and it's just Frank. But Frank is
- 33:17Speaker 1: now face down in the middle of the cabin with
- 33:19Speaker 1: his head near the fireplace, and a knife is plunged
- 33:22Speaker 1: into his back, and there's nobody else inside the cabin.
- 33:26Speaker 1: And immediately Charles said he felt like he knew what happened.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Frank clearly has been killed by a ghost. And he
- 33:33Speaker 1: was so scared, so unbelievably perplexed at what he was seeing,
- 33:38Speaker 1: that in a true panic, he just turned, fled the cabin,
- 33:41Speaker 1: hopped on a horse and just started riding away with
- 33:44Speaker 1: no plan. And it was only by pure luck that
- 33:47Speaker 1: the next day those ranchers found him before he just
- 33:50Speaker 1: collapsed and died. That was his defense. So a claim
- 33:54Speaker 1: like this that Charles was basically saying, I didn't do
- 33:57Speaker 1: what a ghost did, it was so sensational that naturally
- 34:00Speaker 1: this immediately attracted a whole bunch of media attention, and
- 34:05Speaker 1: for the most part, the journalists that flocked into the
- 34:07Speaker 1: area to cover this trial, they expected to hear a
- 34:11Speaker 1: whole bunch of sensational testimony in addition to this initial claim.
- 34:15Speaker 1: They were expecting to hear lawyers sort of poke apart
- 34:18Speaker 1: this whole story and just have it be kind of
- 34:20Speaker 1: a circus in the courthouse, but that eventually, you know,
- 34:23Speaker 1: the truth would come to light that you know, of
- 34:25Speaker 1: course Charles he did this. He must have stabbed Frank.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Who else could have done it, It couldn't have been
- 34:30Speaker 1: a ghost, And then very likely he would be found guilty,
- 34:32Speaker 1: he'd be hung, and that would be that. That's not
- 34:35Speaker 1: what happened. At the very last moment, Charles was told
- 34:40Speaker 1: he was free to go. The grand jury had decided
- 34:42Speaker 1: they were not going to pursue charges against Charles. But
- 34:47Speaker 1: this meant, at least in the eyes of the very
- 34:49Speaker 1: astonished people that heard about this, that had been following this,
- 34:52Speaker 1: this whole case, that in essence, by doing that, the
- 34:56Speaker 1: grand jury was siding with Charles and basically saying, yep,
- 35:00Speaker 1: must have been a ghost, that's what did it. And
- 35:02Speaker 1: that just seemed so absurd that these rational members of
- 35:06Speaker 1: the grand jury, who were mostly comprised of, you know,
- 35:09Speaker 1: very practical, like hardened ranchers from the area, how could
- 35:13Speaker 1: they possibly really believe that a ghost did this? But
- 35:16Speaker 1: that really is what they believed. That is actually the
- 35:19Speaker 1: reasoning they gave for why they did not pursue Charles.
- 35:23Speaker 1: They believed his story a ghost must have killed Frank.
- 35:27Speaker 1: But they have a very specific reason for believing that.
- 35:30Speaker 1: There was one fact that ultimately pushed the jury to
- 35:33Speaker 1: believe that, and that fact was this five years earlier,
- 35:38Speaker 1: when Frank stabbed his partner. Whether it was premeditated or
- 35:42Speaker 1: self defense doesn't really matter. What we do know is
- 35:44Speaker 1: he definitely stabbed to death his partner. When he did that.
- 35:49Speaker 1: The knife he used was taken into evidence and it
- 35:51Speaker 1: was given to the prosecution, who put it in a
- 35:54Speaker 1: safe and they kept it there for the trial. But
- 35:57Speaker 1: on the night before the trial began, the knife inexplicably
- 36:01Speaker 1: disappeared from the safe, and the prosecution said, no one's
- 36:05Speaker 1: open the safe, no one has access to this safe, Like,
- 36:08Speaker 1: there's no way anyone could have that knife other than
- 36:11Speaker 1: the prosecution. And the prosecution is like, we didn't touch it,
- 36:14Speaker 1: we did not move that knife. We have no idea
- 36:16Speaker 1: what happened to it. And so basically, no one knew
- 36:19Speaker 1: what happened to the knife. It just went missing and
- 36:21Speaker 1: they carried on with the trial without it. It was like, Okay,
- 36:24Speaker 1: crazy anomaly, it is what it is. However, the knife
- 36:28Speaker 1: would turn back up again five years later when it
- 36:31Speaker 1: was found stabbed into Frank Heppa's back. Now, keep in mind,
- 36:37Speaker 1: Charles didn't even know Frank when Frank was accused of murder,
- 36:41Speaker 1: Like he wasn't even following the case. Why would he
- 36:44Speaker 1: have stolen the knife from the prosecutor's safe or how
- 36:47Speaker 1: could he Like, Charles has no connection to this knife whatsoever.
- 36:52Speaker 1: And so basically the jury was left with like, well,
- 36:54Speaker 1: wait a minute, if Charles didn't have this knife and
- 36:57Speaker 1: he didn't do this, is it possible that maybe the
- 37:01Speaker 1: victim's ghost is the one who stole the knife in
- 37:04Speaker 1: the first place. And then five years later, exacted their
- 37:08Speaker 1: revenge on their killer Frank by killing him the same
- 37:11Speaker 1: way they were killed, with the same knife in the
- 37:13Speaker 1: same location. Well, it's up to you if you want
- 37:16Speaker 1: to believe that story. But what is the case is
- 37:19Speaker 1: that line of thinking was the actual literal reason that
- 37:24Speaker 1: Charles was let go. They basically said, Yep, a ghost
- 37:28Speaker 1: did it. Thank you so much for watching. Let me
- 37:41Speaker 1: know what you thought of today's episode in the comments.
- 37:44Speaker 1: And remember, we have hundreds of videos for you to
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- 37:57Speaker 1: All right, until next time, see ya.