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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all sisters going clear, you lift up? What's up everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo. We're back. Got
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday night football game, Buffalo at home against Miami,
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  Speaker 1: big spread. Got Hoopster title here with me as usual.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back from my sister's wedding. Appreciate all those that
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  Speaker 1: supported along the way. I couldn't be here last week,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody that filled in and reached out, I do
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you. And Hoopster, I'll kick it off to you first,
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  Speaker 1: but we got we'll talk promos in a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but we did kick off week three three man booth
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  Speaker 1: three for three, three days for three dollars on any
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  Speaker 1: a minute. But Hoopstall kicked to you first. What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Do them well? I mean yeah? The game it's an
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  Speaker 2: interesting one, one of the classic. You know, a team
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  Speaker 2: that looks like maybe the best team in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: versus what could have been the worst team in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL in Miami, and a situation where the wheels could
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  Speaker 2: just completely fall off, and obviously probably likely to completely
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  Speaker 2: fall off at some point with the personalities they have there,
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  Speaker 2: so it is a different dynamic for Showdown. So excited
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  Speaker 2: to talk through it all. And then in regards to
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  Speaker 2: the promo, Yeah, so we've been talking about for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we will have the Golden Ship announcements coming
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  Speaker 1: up shortly as well. We've got Golden Ship at number
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  Speaker 1: nine winner that will face off against Hoopster and a
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  Speaker 1: head to head this weekend. And then we also have
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  Speaker 1: the Share Ship winner, which you know, good news on
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  Speaker 1: that we're going back. We get another shot at the
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  Speaker 1: five fifty five millise so we talked about that throughout
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  Speaker 1: the season, but that's gonna be a fun one chance
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  Speaker 1: to really boost that prize pool, and then I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to actually do a few more in the five point
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  Speaker 1: fifty five this week, and I'll come up with it
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  Speaker 1: and put it in the discord or maybe talk about
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  Speaker 1: it on the Sunday Show. But definitely going to dedicate
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  Speaker 1: a percentage of my stuff as well towards the pool
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  Speaker 1: this week, just to try and help grow up a title.
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  Speaker 1: Bring you in, man, We got a big spread here tonight.
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  Speaker 1: But I think these slates are fun to still talk about,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a ton of different ways that you can
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  Speaker 1: get there. We might even go back to the super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl for a minute and just talk about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Good vibes for you with the worthy win with the
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  Speaker 1: two to four in a blowout. So things happen in
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  Speaker 1: these well it's where you can still build differently. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on, man, how you doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean fifteen dollars one hundred and thirty thousand plus
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  Speaker 3: two for the main tournament. As long as these tournaments
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  Speaker 3: and contests still look like this, I don't care who,
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  Speaker 3: what two teams play, what the spread is, what anything.
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  Speaker 3: There's money to be made. But yeah, I mean three dollars.
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  Speaker 3: It can maybe get you three gumballs nowadays, and not
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  Speaker 3: only do you get NFL with that, NASCAR shout out
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  Speaker 3: to Eric in the game. Prizes are still good there.
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  Speaker 3: College football team Grind's like no other week off for
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  Speaker 3: MMA this week, but I'm not sure we have a
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  Speaker 3: week off after that, except like Thanksgiving. So I know
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  Speaker 3: NFL takes center as it should. Prizes are massive, but
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  Speaker 3: there's still plenty of other sports baseball going on right now.
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  Speaker 3: We're sweating. Yeah, it's a good time to be a
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  Speaker 3: DFS fan, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I think we'll talk about it
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  Speaker 1: in a second. But you can definitely check it all
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  Speaker 1: MLB most certainly still smashing shut up to our guy
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  Speaker 1: Rio Hebrew Cheetah last night. Thirty two k somehow a chop,
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  Speaker 1: I think, like just a random you know where the
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  Speaker 1: point one six somehow ends up as a chop or
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  Speaker 1: whatever that number was. It's crazy, but either way we
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  Speaker 1: take those and I know he loved it. Because the
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  Speaker 1: prize pool was super top heavy last night, so it
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  Speaker 1: matters that much more when you get the job done
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  Speaker 1: that way. Who you're gonna pull up saber in a bit,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna pull up the marketing stuff in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Will you do that? But title, I'll go
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  Speaker 1: to you. What is sort of your grand scheme overview
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  Speaker 1: for this slate? I hinted at it a little, but
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  Speaker 1: I definitely think people confuse these big spread slates where
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  Speaker 1: the blowout just means five to one Buffalo and then
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  Speaker 1: turn it off. This late sucks versus tons of different
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  Speaker 1: ways that you can get.
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  Speaker 3: There, right, Yeah, absolutely, I mean the first thing that
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  Speaker 3: stands out obviously a twelve and n point spread Buffalo
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  Speaker 3: looks like one of the best teams in football. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta bet with one of my buddies, Ravens over Bills.
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  Speaker 3: Who goes farther. I've kept right in these freaking Ravens,
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  Speaker 3: and these Bills keep owning me. But yeah, I still
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  Speaker 3: think the Ravens will have them when it's all said
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  Speaker 3: and down. If Harbaugh could take a couple of chances
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  Speaker 3: here and there, that's beside the point, Miami. I'm with
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  Speaker 3: who looks like a total disaster. It feels like it's
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  Speaker 3: only a matter time until it just gets exploded.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 3: But the first thing just dfs wise like sixty percent
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  Speaker 3: roughly at Captain when you look at Josh, James Cook
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  Speaker 3: and eight Chan and rightfully so like it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be more stars and scrubs. The scrubs. There's a couple
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  Speaker 3: viable options down below, but it's really just Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: projects for so much better than the rest of the field.
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  Speaker 3: And then you go with James Cook and pretty much
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  Speaker 3: the best game script you can have, the unknowns. I
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  Speaker 3: guess unknowns is the wrong word. Just it's not comfortable
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  Speaker 3: playing the Tyreeks the Battles of the world right now
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  Speaker 3: because two has been so bad. But we obviously know
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  Speaker 3: there's upside there in the game script could be in
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  Speaker 3: favor for him, like less than ten percent Tyreek less
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  Speaker 3: than five percent. Waddle kind of reminds me of a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of the spot Hoop Talk week one. Just
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  Speaker 3: seed he wasn't being played at all. Curious if he
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  Speaker 3: sees it similar. And then the Bills, what makes them
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  Speaker 3: so great is that receiver room, Like is it going
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  Speaker 3: to be a Coleman day is it is here days
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  Speaker 3: at Homer they run two tight ends with kincaid and
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  Speaker 3: not so. Even though we have concentrated captain options and
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  Speaker 3: good at options at that, there's plenty of ways to
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  Speaker 3: get different on this slate. And last thing, I think
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  Speaker 3: salary is very soft, which has kind of been the
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  Speaker 3: story at the start of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's interesting about that is, you know, I'll go
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  Speaker 1: to hoop here in a second, but just to break
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  Speaker 1: it down quick, at the captain stuff, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: there shortly anyway. But the Josh Allen stuff, even though
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be super popular for great reason. We know
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  Speaker 1: why exactly because he can do literally everything and he will.
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  Speaker 1: It's also sets up where there's so many different constructions
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  Speaker 1: that you can get away with that like you can
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  Speaker 1: build really good Josh Allen captains. I never love the
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  Speaker 1: most popular captain quarterback. You guys know this, But the
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  Speaker 1: way this set up, I thought you nailed that title.
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  Speaker 1: The way it sets up with the salary tonight and
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  Speaker 1: the unknowns if you will have some of those receiving rooms,
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  Speaker 1: it's like that's kind of the setup of how you
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  Speaker 1: can get better lineup. Still even with Josh Allen up top,
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you. Anything else you want to
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  Speaker 1: add or what's your sort of grand scheme over you
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to things here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the ownership at Captain. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: where it's the most important part about showdown. And I
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  Speaker 2: always say that, like what you do at at Captain
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  Speaker 2: going to be concentrated around a few guys for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Although I just did this dry run and I guess
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  Speaker 2: I might as well pull it up at this point
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  Speaker 2: based on projected points, and I guess it was somewhat surprising.
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  Speaker 2: And again this is just based on let me pull
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  Speaker 2: it up as I'm talking through it. This is just
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  Speaker 2: based on projected score. But like and it will change
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  Speaker 2: when when I hit SERVI score. But we're not getting
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  Speaker 2: any Josh Allen on these teams using our projections. It's
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  Speaker 2: all in the flex, you know, basically all in in
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  Speaker 2: the flex, but none in the Captain spot. No a chan, No,
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  Speaker 2: it likes going cheap at Captain, just based on projected score. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when I do change it to Saber score, which I
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  Speaker 2: will we'll hear in a minute that's going to change
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  Speaker 2: because as you can see Josh Allen, a Chen and
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  Speaker 2: Cook getting what's that thirty thirty? So like as of
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  Speaker 2: now we're showing like sixty percent, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: probably ends up being pretty on point. Could be, could
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  Speaker 2: be more. The problem with this lad, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: hard to make the case. For others. You can definitely
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I haven't fully decided what I'm doing,
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  Speaker 2: but like if you just want to make the case,
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  Speaker 2: like who else could could put up a big score
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  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill? I mean definitely not two up, Like I
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  Speaker 2: think two has got to be like the worst playoff top.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk through it all. In order for like these
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  Speaker 2: cheaper captains to get there, you need four or five
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  Speaker 2: other guys to put up a big score. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's possible tonight. The pass catchers for Buffalo
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  Speaker 2: very difficult. I know Coleman had the big game Week
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  Speaker 2: one against Baltimore, but that was because they were down
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  Speaker 2: like two touchdowns and forced to throw the ball. Like,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to be down two touchdowns today? I
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  Speaker 2: mean very very very unlikely, you know, Kinkaid, So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know it is tough, I think to make a case,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why I love doing the shows with you guys,
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  Speaker 2: because you guys know I definitely struggle with stuff like this,
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  Speaker 2: like when it looks like it's gonna be three guys,
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  Speaker 2: struggle to really go in on guys four, five, six seven,
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely want to hear your guys take on
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  Speaker 2: it all. But like these three, Cook, Chen and Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen for sure are going to be the highest owned.
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen for obvious reasons. Cook, well, if it's not
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, a lot of times it's been James Cook
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  Speaker 2: and a chan is the ability to get there in
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  Speaker 2: any sort of game, strip playing from behind, playing with
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  Speaker 2: the lead, playing in a neutral tie sort of game,
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  Speaker 2: within a touchdown, so he can do it no matter
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  Speaker 2: what week one he got there and they're getting their
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  Speaker 2: ass kicked, like he scored I don't know, it was
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  Speaker 2: a red round twenty or something, so he did end
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  Speaker 2: up getting there, got a late touchdown, so he's always
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  Speaker 2: out there. So it is tough to make the case
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  Speaker 2: against many of the guys, but I do think it
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  Speaker 2: is interesting though, just based on projected score here, we'ren't
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  Speaker 2: really getting any of the guys at the top, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll switch it over to Saber score so we can
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  Speaker 2: kind of talk through it. Wow, ever happened? You know
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  Speaker 2: that's usually hoop donkey ass move?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what the speaking of donkey move? I think you
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  Speaker 1: were on Saber score.
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  Speaker 2: I think right, it was just it was on projected score.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know it did say Saber there, but it
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  Speaker 2: was projected score.
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  Speaker 1: Running it on my side, I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to just over talk on this, but I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I was trying to check out because I
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  Speaker 1: get a lot more Josh Allen when I'm looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, he's gonna be owned up top and
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  Speaker 1: we'll definitely get to that. But I think that's part
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  Speaker 1: of it for sure, and like you said, being able
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  Speaker 1: to spread it out from there, and then the other
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  Speaker 1: thing with the running back side of it. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people when they don't go Alan,
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  Speaker 1: they immediately think James Cook. We saw guys like title's
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  Speaker 1: favorite guy, Kaishaan Boodie, and we saw Mac Collins and
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  Speaker 1: dudes like that catching touchdowns against this team just last
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  Speaker 1: week against Miami. So it's like, what if it is
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  Speaker 1: the Palmers, the Coleman's, the you know, the Shakirs of
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  Speaker 1: the world on top of Kinkaid, and they just have
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  Speaker 1: a ton of different ways that they can get there.
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  Speaker 1: So I still think there's other ways that you can
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  Speaker 1: leverage it. But now that we're there, title, I'll kick
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  Speaker 1: it do and just get your thoughts up top and
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  Speaker 1: just kind of everything with with what hoop it said there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I struggle to get different, Like I'm really struggling
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  Speaker 3: with any of these Buffalo pass catchers. If you build
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  Speaker 3: that way, you really have to build to the script
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  Speaker 3: of it's pretty close. But we saw him last week
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  Speaker 3: jump out what like three touchdowns and they didn't look
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  Speaker 3: like there was no need to throw. Josh completely busted,
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  Speaker 3: the receivers completely busted. It was all James Cook. They
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  Speaker 3: just took the arrow to the ball, relied on their defense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really worried. It's the same thing. Like Josh and
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  Speaker 3: James Cook are definitely my my Buffalo captains playing one
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  Speaker 3: to fifty, which I am today. Yeah, you're gonna see
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  Speaker 3: a mix of Coleman, Sekir whatever twenty teams are less
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  Speaker 3: or ten teams or less. If I'm really trying to condense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not getting to any of those guys, and really
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  Speaker 3: the Miami stuff. It's a Chan, which I do really
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  Speaker 3: like because there's so many game scripts. He can get
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  Speaker 3: there even when they're getting blown out. His usage has
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  Speaker 3: been great. I do worry if this game was like
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight to three in the third quarter, Like I
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  Speaker 3: do worry how much they run eight Chan out in
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  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Why they would do that all year?
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  Speaker 3: They still have been But no Milano the linebacker, No
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  Speaker 3: at Alber for the Bills to of their best defense
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  Speaker 3: defensive players, that's really big for eight Chan. They got it.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna want to get him the ball in space.
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  Speaker 3: His receiving prop receptions five and a half, which is
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  Speaker 3: the highest on the slate, and he even has a
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  Speaker 3: little more one one point higher juice than Tyreek. So
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  Speaker 3: if every won in this game, I haven't heard something
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  Speaker 3: over because.
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  Speaker 2: We did the show on Sunday. Well, McCaffrey was at
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  Speaker 2: four and a half, right, I think we taught through it.
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  Speaker 2: Five and a half is a big boyd number for
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  Speaker 2: running back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's supposed to lead this game. He's the most
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  Speaker 3: likely to have the most catches in this game on
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  Speaker 3: the slate.
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  Speaker 2: That is wild but not wild at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when Tua can't push the ball down the field
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  Speaker 3: and eight chan's as good as he is and design
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  Speaker 3: like to. I mean, so a Chan last week Miami
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  Speaker 3: almost won that game. He just stepped out of bounds
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: on a sick like forty yard touchdown and then they
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: couldn't convert after that. But that number could have been
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: way bigger. Yeah, they're gonna need to get eight Chan
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: the ball even if they're down a lot. There's a
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: lot of ways he can get there. So he's my
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: clear guy there. And then I love owned option that
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I would pick is Tyreek. I mean, at the end
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: of the day, like if they are one play can
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: change everything for him. Sixty six and a half receiving
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: yard prop which actually surprised me a bit. That was
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: higher than I expected. Again, one bomb, seventy yards boom,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: he can make his play. If they're down twenty one
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: to three or whatever it is, the game scripts in
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: their hands and they just got to air the football
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: out a ton You could easily see Tyreek. Maybe he
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: gets there in garbage time, third quarter, fourth quarter. There's
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: just enough outs there, there's enough big play upside, I'm
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: seeing less than ten percent. I want to embrace that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Watta would be my fifth if I chose one, But
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: it's those clear four And like you said earlier, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: I said, like, there's enough ways to get different in
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: the flex, I just I think playing the right the
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: best captains in quotes is what I'm gonna do because
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: that's what I see it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna show this quick to hoop. I don't
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: know if I can get it back real fast, just
• 15:50
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• 15:52
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• 15:54
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• 15:56
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• 15:58
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• 16:00
  Speaker 1: this is a preliminary run, so you see it. But
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: just looking at some of the stuff that we show off,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: and this is why the stone is so powerful. I
• 16:06
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• 16:10
  Speaker 1: the stone. But this is sort of highlighting to everything
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: that you just said. Title is we have the captain
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: optimals right on here to give an idea. And one
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: of the most interesting things to me is that yes,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the obvious, right a Chan cook Alan, But after that
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: you do get like that range on all these other guys.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: And I know Hoop doesn't like Tyreek. You could slide
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that to other guys, or you could just say, okay,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll get a little more Coleman, Shakir palm Er Kinkaid,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to move it to. But I do
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: think there's some options to get different on this late.
• 16:37
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• 16:40
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• 16:42
  Speaker 1: way as I used to build in sets. I think
• 16:44
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• 16:47
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• 16:49
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• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But whop, I'll let you take it back with the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Sabersim stuff. Anything else to add at the captain spot?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Do you want to mention anything else there that I missed?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: No, I'm fine with the Tyreek Hill stuff. I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: if there's anyone on Miami outside of a Chan, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: mean it's I guess clearly him and could get a boost.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jalen, we haven't really talked about it, but
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Wattle is questionable. He said he's going to try to
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: warm up pregame. I think he plays, but like if
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: he's out, I would certainly boost everyone, including a Chan
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: as well. Malik Washington already going to be pretty popular.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: He would get a boost and it would bring more
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: of these Miami pass catchers into the conversation. So the
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: current status there, iss going to warm up pregame and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: see how it feels. Again, I think he plays, but
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't, that would change the slate a little
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: bit in regards to pushing things to some of those
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Miami pass catchers a little bit more. And that does
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: include a Chan as well. Because, as titled just five
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and a half prop reception prop for running back is very,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: very high. So Vegas is already thinking he's going to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: be very involved in the passing game, which obviously isn't
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a stretch because he has been ever since he, you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: start playing in the NFL. So yeah, that's the only thing,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you know, only thing to really add to the captain conversation.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: And when I did switch it over to Saberscore, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: was saying saber score, but it wasn't actually save Saberscore.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It's just project. Maybe I clicked on it didn't click through.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: But Josh Allen shows up, a chan shows up, so
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: it is spreading it out a little bit, I you know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: for me personally going into this slate like man like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I hope Josh Allen stays twenty eight ish, Like this
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is a clear scenario where someone is so much more
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: likely to be the captain you need than anyone else
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: in like twenty eight under thirty percent is is low,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and like if if like sabers pushing out only twenty
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: on Josh Allen, maybe it does get held in check.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I've I've done slight like this before. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just go all in Josh Allen, and then you really
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: don't need to worry about anything else with roster construction.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You just have all these different combinations with Josh Allen.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And if it is Josh Allen, you're live to to hit.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: You know, it just depends on you know what sort
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of teams or what sort of contests you're you're entering.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I just I'm gonna be very aggressive at captain tonight,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: and I might only play three, maybe four guys, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: then again I have more pass to the top if
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it is one of those guys. It's just to me,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it's just tough to make the case for, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: guys outside of the main three or four.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the thing about the Josh Allen stuff.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Like I said, you like to take these stands, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's worth it tonight if you do. Because
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: even if you end up with like fifty sixty percent
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: of him and you just say, look it, I'm just
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: going taking a stand, you can have all really good
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen teams. Like there's there's so many ways to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: do it with leaving money. There's dropping down where most
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: people can fit in a James Cook. You're saying, well,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: if it's not going to be him, I'll drop him
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: down to a Shakir and leave all that money on
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the table that's on the table. But that would actually
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: make perfect sense in that lineup if he's robbing Cook
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of his touchdowns for once, versus Cook robbing him like
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: last week, and then you see a guy that just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: gets there in the flex like Coleman or Shakir or whatever.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You can leave all that money on the table and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it won't really matter at all. So I think we
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: could see a more interesting slate than most probably think,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: even with a super popular captain if they get there
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: right that type of thing. I want to say a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: shout out to Jim Parrish throwing up at least three
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: trials on the screen. But if Jim, if you have
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a question or anything you want to throw up, man,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: get it in there. We'll definitely answer it for you.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Make sure take care.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Of you, so appreciate that. And if you have a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: question or anything, we'll cover it obviously. So yeah, fire away.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: If you got anything you want to cover fanduely, Yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we kind of cover FanDuel at the end. We'll talk
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: through that. I got some built up here on this
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: fan duel tab that we'll talk about it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I think that's also too. You
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: always mentioned like we threw it up on the screen there,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: but just with the way they change their format, it's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: usually what we're looking at when we bring it up
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: at the end is more what are the price pricing
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: discrepancies as opposed to how do you play it differently?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Because in reality it's like a lot of this stuff
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: applies now. They have an MVP, works the same as
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: the captain, they added the extra slot, they added the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: cheaper price points, like, everything is very similar to DraftKings now.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But what we're looking for is pricing discrepancies that may
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: make things work a bit differently, and we'll get to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that near the end. And we will also what, like
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: my guy Gerald said, when we get to one hundred likes,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we will announce the Golden Ship at number nine winner
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: who will have a chance to be in the finals
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: round one and have a chance to eventually get to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the ultimate final of those fifty going down to ten
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and play for the twenty thousand plus cash. Current price
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: can only go up from there. So title anything else
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: we miss man at the captain. If not, you can
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: move into quarterback running back stuff as we move it along.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: No, there's just the last thing about the captain, Like
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you made a good point. A lot of the chalk
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: captains and the stuff I like, like the very slight
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: negative captain leverage, which again it's kind of minuscule, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: it is at the end of the day, and a
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: lot of those more unknown. Tincaid'st like had a little
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: pot and it's very when you build like with one
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: of them at Captain. Just try and think about the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: game script. I know it's really hard when you build
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: one fifty and all that. That's why I rely on
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Saber a lot. With that. I'm not clicking through each
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: individual team, but if I'm playing five teams or less
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: or some single entries, I do want my own thought.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And when I am putting a pass catcher on the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: bills at Captain, I want that bill to make sense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I don't want to just say it's a forty to
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: three game bills, Like, how does that really work? It
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: seems unlikely there. So yeah, the stone is a very
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: powerful tool. So that Captain optimal and captain leverage spot
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: is something I look at a lot running back room.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: It's definitely I'll start on Miami because it's a lot
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: easier after a Chan. It's tough because is it Jalen
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: right as RB two? Is it Ali Gordon? Is RB two? Really?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Like at the end of the day, it
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: very well might be neither. Again, if this game is
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: such a blowout though, Like, I just don't see if
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: they're don thirty to three, I don't see why eight
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Chan would be in the fourth quarter, just like grinding
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: like that, and you get two sub three K backup
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: running backs with very little ownership on the Dolphins. Five
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: one builds for the Buffalo four to two Buffalo with
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: them as one of the Dolphins, like I will be
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: including them in the flex. They're gonna be very low owned.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: It helps lower duke teams. But if it's a blowout
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: script that I'm building for Buffalo, I'm just gonna take
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the approach that it's not eight Chan plaint all day
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: in the fourth Maybe it's right Gordon. Gordon had a
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: lot more hype coming into Week one. He's the rookie,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: so I guess I'll lean there if I have to,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: but I'm not. I don't feel very good about that take.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know who RB two is. I should enter
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: to mention too. Alec Ingold four hundred bucks the full back.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: He's like one of the best fullbacks, the most one
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of the most athletic fullbacks in the NFL. He actually
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: can catch a pass or something, So four hundred bucks
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: if he's in the pool four points. Five points isn't enough.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it gets you starts in scrubs
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Buffalo side though. This is why the slight's really good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You can get well eating chalk at Flex or eating
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: chalk at Captain. You can do so many different things
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: at Flex. Like I said, I mentioned right, I mentioned
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Gordon Pass I haven't mentioned in Gold. But outside of
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: James Cook, they have Ray Davis and they have Ty Johnson.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: It clearly seems to me like Ray Davis is the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: better play because if it's a bault like we saw
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: last week, he gets more of the at like he's
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the traditional running back, whereas Ty Johnson's a pass catcher,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: a two minute droll guy, pass protector, et cetera. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: harder for me to see this game Buffalo really needing
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Ty Johnson a lot of those pass clear pass downs.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So everything's telling me Ray Davis touchdown prop he's plus
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: three sixty or plus three eighty to score. Ty Johnson's
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: plus six hundred. Ray Davis actually has a solid rushing
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: prop twenty four and a half yards, a lot higher
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: than I expected. There's a lot of routes Ray Davis
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: can get there in this game. I like him a
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: good bit. But this I'll throw it right to you
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: on this tamble because don't that too much after Ray Davis,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Ty Johnson? Do you believe the eleven percent Ray Davis
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: flex that we haven't projected for and the nine percent
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Ty Johnson? Because if it's that close, give me Ray
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Davis all day. If we think one moon walks back,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: one gets steam, then you could see a pivot there
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and that could eliminate a lot of dupe. So that
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: was my main question at running back.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good breakdown. And it depends on how much you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: think this will weigh into things from narrative street. But
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson's birthday was yesterday. I don't think anyone will
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: care about that. And if and with that said, I
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: actually think Ray Davis will steam more and Ty Johnson
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: will be the money. Leave the money on the table
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and just play him. And said, I look, I like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Roy Davis. How you want to use them in different lineups?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: If you've got twenty plus, I think you can get
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: after it and make moves. You can do whatever you want.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You have a single jury and you like them, you
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: can play them. I'm saying more to the way you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: asked and what I think is correct. We're thinking alike
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: on this. If one does steam, it's Ray and people
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: are just gonna go there. We've seen him the guy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: They give him opportunities, man like he can get a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: shot to fall in the end zone and maybe more.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But I do think that Ty Johnson could still be
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: interesting and almost be like the Algier play from the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: other night that we saw where it's like late in
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the game, end up just getting into the mix and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's in the box and needed.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that. I think it will
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a spread from the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: eleven up and the nine down on that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Thin and Yeah, you could definitely do this. I mean,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: James Coke gets their early, Ray, Davis gets there late,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: they pound them. That's an easy buffalo on slought type stuff.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and shout out there a man, rob, He says,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think lots of people will play Davis. He shows
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: up in so many optimals. Yeah, I definitely think that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: will get there. I love Jimmy's always here supporting and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I know he's joking, but I still appreciate it, says
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez, birthday was yesterday. He didn't get one hit.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I don't buy the narrative anymore. Yeah, it's bad narrative.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: This ball is hard.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But by the way, Joshua Palmer his birthday is this weekend,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and so maybe they get him a little early birthday gift.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But I could hear the announcer saying that. But he's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: at least someone interesting because he's kind of the same
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: ownership and actually similar projection Shakiir and Coleman. But I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: think people would like Shakiir and Coleman more not. I mean,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you don't really necessarily need the savings, but if you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to do that, that's where you could just leave
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: that money on the table. If it ends up being
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Palmer over Coleman, I don't think there's anybody that's gonna
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: argue that being a possibility. Hoop kick it back over
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to you anything you want to add on the tuo
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of stuff first, and then you could take us into
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: running back. But I just think he's gonna be five
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: percent up top. He's not gonna be very popular in
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: flex when you consider a chan Tyreek, James Cook, Allen,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: et cetera. We know he can get knocked out in
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: one hit, but Tua thoughts on him and then take
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: us into running back for yourself.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Uh no, I'm gonna be like ta Like, definitely, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: think he's the worst captain play on the slate. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: don't even know, like we'll see, like what the what
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: is our projected ownership on on two? I don't even
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: know how he would get there, Like what sort of
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: game does he that's five lineups?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: If that game they get there? Is they just it's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: back and forth? I mean that actually move the ball?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, class in session Derek giving a little teach over here.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: We know he's the teacher, he says, over point five.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I n t what are the odds on that? That's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: actually looks like a nice bed. I'm sure it's like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's got to be have a heavin a leave favored.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: No, it's probably what minus three hundred minus try.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And find it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be really
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: really bad odds. Seems like a lock. Yeah, I mean
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I just have not much interest, Like I'm gonna I'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: play him like you can obviously get there and flex
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: just by volume alone. But like, no, no, thanks, not
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: that's it minus one fifty five. That's actually does like he.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Can't even see over his own O line, let alone
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the other side. So how's it gonna happen? Like he's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just got to throw it instantly.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: That is that seems like a really nice bet. Actually,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a good call. I thought I would
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: assume much much were odds than that one minus one
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: fifty five. That's might have to I might have to
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: dabble on that one a little bit. Invest not much
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to add at the running back stuff, like a Hm Cook.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: You know, two of the better plays I think on
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the slate, the Ray Davis Ty Johnson stuff. I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it ends up being pretty close ownership, just because people
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: view Ty Johnson as the DK sort of guy with
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the potential for receptions and things like that. So I
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: think it is pretty close. I think both are in play.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Like if you are playing the Buffalo onslought tonight and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you think they smoke Miami, which is very possible because again,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like we talked about in the opening, Buffalo looks like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the NFL. Miami could
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: be the worst team in the NFL. So it could
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: be an ouncelete you want to include all these guys,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: especially guys like Ray Davis and Ty Johnson into the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: mix because if they do score, if it's forty to ten,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: like these guys are gonna get some reps. I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: they're both fine options. You know, Ali Gordon, I don't know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: like what sort of works has the dude been getting.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like much and got it all.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: The start, but the word just like i'd be his
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: week one usage a chance was great even when they
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: were killed by the Colts. But I don't know how
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: long that. I mean, you're gonna keep doing that in blowouts?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. I don't know. I definitely prefer the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Buffalo guys over him. That's kind of an ingold I'll
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: include in there. I mean, he's definitely, like you said, Tamba,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: one of the more involved fullbacks in the NFL, like
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: not many teams actually use them. He's you know, six
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: hundred so somewhat interested in him, and I believe that
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is that's about it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Kid. Lightning's always in here as well. Appreciate you. This
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: is like when the narrative goes too far and I'm Canadian.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I know Hoop knows this well. Being close to the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: border there, like we get it. Lots of Canadians travel
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: over because it's their spot to go see it. Ontario
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: as the province as it's known that heads over. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the guy's Canadian playing in USA still, but we're like
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: claiming it to the narrative to bring in a I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: know he's laughing with it, but just funny how these narratives.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so quickly, I have one more, one more thing
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to add. Got to go to title on this one.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So you know, we've officially on the show changed the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: name Danny dimes to Danny Dollars. It held up week two,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: but the new one going around is Indiana Jones. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, we got to make the call. What are
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: we going with Danny dollars or Indiana Jones.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Dollars Danny pennies, but dollars, fine dollars.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Where we're going, We're sticking with dollars.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The whole world is just jumping on Indiana Jones. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: mean that's gonna be quick too, because in that movie
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: when the big ass rock is chasing him and he's
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: falling off cliffs and stuff, I think that's gonna happen
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: sooner than later, and he may go back to Danny Pennies.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But we'll see an amazing start. But we're only two
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: weeks in, so.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, but we're ahead of the curve though on it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: We called it before the week one performance, it was
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: you know, Sunday morning. We we we changed the name
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to from dimes to dollars, got our boy title on
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: board and it's been nice run.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: If you want to get some Zach Wilson shares in
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: He's the backup.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: It's three out of his fifteen career primetime games two
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: has got injured, two for two on Thursdays though, so
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we got three for three. The code three for three
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is this gonna be three for three. We're gonna see
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it happen. I don't know, but.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: There was ever a day to play a backup QB.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it, but this would be the one,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? People like if there was
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: ever a spot, yeah, this would be it might just.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Do it for the people and if it, if it ships,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I'll put like ten percent into the pool right away
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: for shipp of games. You'll fifty grand just like that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Pop it in or something.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Zach Wilson's I'd let her I'd definitely let her captain
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: my squad.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh man, all right, wide receiver, what are we
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: doing with this one?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Hoop?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of leve out there today. But
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you've already hated on Tyreek enough, so the Wattle stuff,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: we're waiting on Palmer's Canadian American Birthday narrative, sign up,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: do whatever, and then the rest of these Buffalo guys.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So what are you doing, Wide Receiver?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I mean I don't fully hate Tyreek,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like he's probably the other guy at play at captain,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: So if it came off that way, I guess maybe
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a little inaccurate, like I'm fine with him, especially if
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Wattle is somehow limited or ruled out. I mean, he
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: could get a shit ton of targets here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So you know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: The problem I do have is what it does to
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: my lineups, Like if you are going to take an
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: aggressive approach on Josh Allen captain, it is tough to
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: swallow the ninety eight hundred for a guy like Tyreek Hill.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: So I prefer just like this middling rate. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I guess one other point, like Wattle with the injury concerns,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: like if you have a strong read and you like Wattle,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: it's probably a pretty good spot to load up because
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming his ownership comes down even from what we're
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: projecting right now. People like to build teams early, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: if they're unsure if Wattle's gonna play or not, they
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: might just exclude him. So if you do like Wattle,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it's a good opportunity. But man, like eighty eight hundred
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: per while it's tough for me, I'm just gonna focus
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: on some of these other guys and they're not gonna
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: be like priority plays for me at wide receiver. Just
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: the cheaper the better. So, like Josh Palmer, I do
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: like you know, just you know, we talked about the narratives.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not really factoring that in. I just like it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I like him more than these other guys Coleman and
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Shakir just because of the price a little bit. There
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: was some talk about who just want to say Elijah
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: more in the chat. Yeah, sure, but Malik Washington's one
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: guy that's definitely gonna show up in a lot of
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: teams because of the price and the role that we've
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: seen so far to start the season. He's been let's see,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you know, five targets in week one two last week,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: like he's he's been involved in this offense a little
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: bit a couple. He had three rush attempts last week,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: which is pretty big. So he has a legit role.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And he's only thirty two hundred dollars. He's showing at
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: nineteen percent ownership. We got fifteen percent on these teams.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Someone asked about this Tyrell Shavers. Dude, sure, I guess,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, not thrilled to plan, but you can include
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: him in the playerpool if you're playing a bunch of teams,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: but just not overly excited about past catchers today or
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: at least wide receivers. If I was gonna peg anyone
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: as my favorite, it would probably be Joshua Palmer at
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: forty eight hundred. You know, Coleman Shakir. Sure, you know
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: if you are playing a lot of josh Allen captain teams,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: which I plan on doing, like, you're gonna have to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: play a decent bit of Coleman and and Shakir. But
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I don't love the pass catchers, you know, I typically
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: do like pass catchers. But yeah, this game, not not
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: overly thrilled to be here.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: All right? Title, This is what I was going to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: bring up earlier was the setup around the Super Bowl,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Like remember that, like everyone's the bubbles is just gonna
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: blow him out tonight. This is what I'm going to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this during the wide receivers. But the thing about it
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was with Kansas City is sorry. With the Phillies is Phillies,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: My goodness. With Philadelphia, the Eagles, they can spread it
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: out quite a bit. And so when you didn't, if
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you got Barkley three touchdowns in that game, that Worthy
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: bomb doesn't matter nearly as much. You had it spread out.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: They had all kinds of stuff happening, different different guys,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: scoring different points, racking up in different places. Buffalo can
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: be more condensed, most certainly, And that's why we like
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: josh Allen uptop. It's why we like James Cook up top.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: But there is a world where Alan Cook, Kincaid, Palmer,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: whoever else, the defense whatever, gets touchdowns and it is
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: still somebody from the other side that ends up being
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: up top, whether it's a chan early and then they
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: just get crushed after that, or it ends up and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: he still runs and stays in the game throughout, or
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it's a receiver late that crosses the catches yard bonus, touchdown,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: et cetera. Who are sort of the wide receivers And
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: do you see anything like that happening tonight?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a Chan Tyreek back to the captain,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: like I can see it. I mean, like Ray gets
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: in in the fourth quarter because it's garbage time. Kid
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: catches one, Coleman catches one, Cook runs one in. Josh
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: does it like field goals like I had Jake Elliott
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: on that team for the Super Bowl, Like they kicked
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: like three field goals or something like. You have to
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: stall out in the red zone to an extent otherwise
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Josh probably just gets enough throughout his arms and legs,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: so I do. But the two guys I do see
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: it is Tyreek and a Chan because they can't get
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: you the hundred yard bonus. They have two touchdown upside
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: full PPR sites. And that's why I like captain wise,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I like flex wise. I prefer the Buffalo stuff over
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: the Miami Tyreek. I prefer him at captain or up
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: and I'll probably be underweight flex. I want him to
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: fully get there or probably just not get there as much.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: The Flex Buffalo are my clear favorite guys because I'll
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: have a lot of Josh Allen captain teams. It's easier
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: to play Shakir Palmer Coleman all three of them, two
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: of them, one of them. That's always the great thing
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: about Josh Allen slates, even though he's Chalky at captain.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: There's just so many different ways to put So to
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: answer your question, I think tyreek Han are in play
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: for that. I guess you could say like Wattle too.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I really need to see. It's been
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: a while since he's had that monster breakout game. He's
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: coming in a little banged up. I struggle to play
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: play him at captain as much. In the flex spot again,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I like Palmer, Shakir Coleman. Yeah, probably Palmer my favorite.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: With the discount, if I to choose, I can always
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: drop a Shakir Coleman down to Palmer leave the money,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: don't care about that. To eliminate dupes, if you're playing
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Tyrell Shavers, I think, or Elijah Moore, I think that's
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: when you're building, Like they got a good amount of
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: snaps last week, whereas the starters didn't because the game
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: was such a blowout. So at the end of the game,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: like they mixed in their other guys. If you see
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: that again, twelve and that point favorites. If you think
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Buffalo smashes first half and they just dominate the whole game,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: you're gonna see Stavers, You're gonna see Elijah Moore, Ty
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Johnson's Ray Davis get a lot more snaps than they
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: would in a close game. And again, that's when your
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: team should tell a story. So I think that's fine.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: But the Miami side, Milik Washington's definitely my favorite. Like
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: a I think he's good at football. He closed the
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: gap from week one hoops Boy, Nick Westbrookakine and.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Oops boys and.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Milik Washington. He scored every single week last week. Last year,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: we kept turping him and he just kept getting in
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the box. But it was really close gap. Milik Washington
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: just outsnapped Nick Westbrookakine by a little bit. Week one,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: he overdouble outsnapped him. In week two, it was really
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: clear to see wide receiver three and Milik Washington take
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: over that role. Who mentioned the handoffs, gadget play little
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: quick guy even in the red zone. They designed some
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: stuff for him, so he will get ownership. But I
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: think he's a clear best play at thirty two hundred,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: and if Waddle's out, he would only be more popular,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: which I almost don't even want. But then Nick Westbrookakine
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: becomes a lot more in play. Heck, maybe d s Gridge,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that. But more of the story,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Buffalo receiver is my preferred option. I prefer in the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: flex than Captain Tyreek my favorite Captain Dolphins receiver, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Malik Washington my favorite Flex Dolphins receiver.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna pick up a little steam, like you said,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and obviously if we get Wadle news it'll be even more.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people talking Ty Freak.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Why play Ty Freak when you can play Malik? That's
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the thing tonight man. He's a good spot and he's cheap,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and it makes a ton of sense. Also, I think
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: if you're going to one of the cheaper captain lineups again,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I know people, oh you always just land on the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: same lineup. Thing about tonight is, again, you already have
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: so much condensed ownership, like Alan Cook h that could
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: be almost sixty percent right there, like fit. You know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: just on those three there's there's it only leaves so
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: much and you can easily just leave a thousand two
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: thousand on the table. In a Molik lineup, you can
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: build it differently. So I'm just using that example to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: give you guys one somebody mentioned earlier too. I kind
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: of like that. And then Scooter McGavin says, Malik gets
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of those quick screens in the two seconds
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: who has to throw? Yeah, point two seconds, who has
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the throw exactly and you know, just flip it up over,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: flipping up over. I could see a Chan and Malik
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: being those two guys. So on the Buffalo side, it's
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: just so spread out as is that I think it's
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be more for me at least. It's gonna be
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of lineups where I'm very comfortable with, like,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: oh I got Coleman, let me play Palmer and just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: leave that money. Oh I've got Shakir, let me play Palmer,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: or let me drop down or whatever that looks like.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just it's there's It's not even like a situation
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: where you have a Lamb down to a Pickens or
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: something and people actually feel like Lamb is way better
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: or something. This is like, these are the same guys
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and it's whoever catches the ball. They're all big enough
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to do so Josh Allen doesn't give a shit. He'll
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: throw it to whoever. So it's whoever can get open
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: in the spot or whatever it is that. I mean,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the coaches want the touchdown. I don't think they're gonna
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: worry too much about that. Rob mentioned this one too,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: and I know title you just hit on it, but
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I love when he said hoops boy, and he perked
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: up like no other. But what Westbrook and Keeney leverage
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you could definitely do. That's another example. It's twelve hundred bucks,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: don't care. But here's the difference. Your optimizer will care.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: The projections are pre probably right, I mean, they're dead on.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: It's just what actually happens. And so when you got
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to remember that your inputs are your outputs. If you
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: want that leverage to happen, don't come talking later, well saber,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: sim didn't give me none of this, or oh he didn't,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't get none of him. You control what you get.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: The machine does it for you after you set it up.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So if you want to get some of that, make
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: a rule at most one, play a minimum of them both,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and then in non elik lineups you would get Westbrook
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a Kine, and that would be what sets you up
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: for it. If it's wrong, it's wrong. But at least
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you put your money behind what you wanted to play
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and not allowed a tool just to say exactly what
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you have to play based on everything else. You control
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the inputs and then it does a great job of
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: putting that together for you. So you don't really I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: mean you can set rules for sure, but to leave
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: salary automatically but for specific reasons. I don't have any
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: skill set along those lines. I think it's more of
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: just being comfortable with those as you're going through, like
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you know, new ones. As I always talking about. You
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: don't review your lineups just after they got you know,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you don't. Just a lot of people do this. Actually,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I'll use the high school example. They get their essay
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: back and oh, they got a F for whatever. Yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you're reviewing the result. You should have reviewed it before
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: it got put in. It might not have been an F.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: So you kind of want to see what you're doing
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: before you play. I'm always reviewing my portfolio before entering,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm still trusting in the process that I've set up,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: so it's you know, you are looking for those things,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and a lot of it is if you have too
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: many lineups that become similar. I know somebody I was
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: talking with yesterday title was about, you know, if they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: only play twenty max, how do I you know I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: like thirty of these lineups or I like twenty five
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of them. When I'm going through my stuff, if I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: see two lineups that are almost identical, but one's forty
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: eight eight and the other one's forty nine nine, I'm
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: definitely playing the forty eight eight. But if I like
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: both of them, well, then I might still keep the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: forty eight eight and take the forty nine to nine
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: from Coleman down to Palmer if he's the same guy
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in both of them, because now I just get a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: different lineup that leaves the money, that still makes a
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: ton of sense, gives me some extra portfolio diversification. Again,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: talking people that build with like twenty lineups or less,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: this is a better way to do that, where you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: can control what you're doing and still put actual thought
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: behind it and probably give yourself a better overall portfolio.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: For if you're right, not how often you're right, it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: how much you win when you are right. Titled that
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: would be a prime example of that. So anything else
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to add if not, you could take us into tight end.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want your quick thoughts on this because my
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: answer is my first instinct answer kind of conflicted with
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: when I thought longer. So from both of you.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be tough, because, like I said, I'm
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: already down the stretch. Like that's where the Ray Davis
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: stuff becomes more popular. If they are up big and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: they just let Reagan out there and he's awesome, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: when he gets the ball, I think he's fine. It's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I would think this would be probably more correct is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: if somehow it gets this way and Josh does have
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: to get different guys out there that he can find
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and ding and dunk two. This is where I think
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I could see more of this versus Ray Davis. Might
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: be more like a fall in the box late in
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the game, blow it upside. That's kind of how I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: see it myself.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Hoop kind of view Ty Johnson as two minute drill
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: trying to get the ball down the field, stored up play.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: So I don't I'm not like really thinking correlation when
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: when trying to play Ty Johnson. If that makes sense, Yeah.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: That makes sense because like when I read this, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: initially thought yes, like like but then I'm like, they
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: almost have to be trailing. Like if it's like that
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: James Cook might be in ninety percent of the snaps,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: then I would boost James Cook even more. So You're
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: thought about You're, yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Just to add on to that point, because I think
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: it's an important one. If you're playing Ty Johnson for
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: game script purposes, you're playing him in the game script
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: where Miami is playing with the lead and probably a
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: substantial lead, so uh, you know, probably a two touchdown lead,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: which seems very very very unlikely could happen. But yeah,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: if you're playing him for corollary purposes, that would that
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: would be it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to tight end tight end. And again
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: this is why I'm so fine being concentrated at captain.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: As we just mentioned a lot of running backs, a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: lot of good amount of receivers. The tight end room
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: is really tough. Like on the Buffalo side, it is
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Kinkaid is the guy, but he got out snapped by
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Dawson Knox last week, so Dawson Knox is clearly in play.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: And then Wombat shout out to Wombatt always in the
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: discord Buffalo guy. He corrected me. At the beginning of
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: the show, I mentioned like they have two tight ends,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Well they have three. Jackson Hawes actually got a good
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: amount of snaps too. He got down to the one
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: yard line. He almost fell in the box at completely unknown.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: So there are just so many When Josh Allen a
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Chan you play all the chalk, you play a guy
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: like Jackson Hawes. That is one way to get different.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Do I like Jackson Hawes much? Not really like I
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: still rank at Kincaid Knox Hawes, but he's gonna be
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: on the field. He's gonna be very low owned. Then
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: you go to the other side, it's pretty much a
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: split with Julian Hill and Tanner Connor. Both of these
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: guys are cheap. My preferred play is Connor. He seems
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: like the more likely to catch passes. But then I'm like, man,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I see this guy projecting for eighteen percent ownership a
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: team that I mean will struggle to move the ball.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Probably he has eight hundred dollars, which is why he's
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: getting that ownership, But man, eighteen percent owned. I'm looking
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: at our flex leverage and stuff like that. It's kind
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: of an agreement with me, Like, that's a big number
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: for a big ownership number for a guy that very
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: well could have zero. So yeah, I prefer the Buffalo stuff.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: But five tight ends right there will all be on
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: the field a decent bit of time. They're pretty much
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: all cheap and most of them are low owned. So yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: this is a spot you can get try and get
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: different in chalk your teams.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting too, the the Hawes stuff, like they draft
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: them like one hundred and seventy third overall. But there's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: already like a lot of talk from the coaches. Dean
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Dawkins said, I've seen the best blocker of a young
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: guy that I've ever seen. And I'm not just saying
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that he's one of the best blockers you will see
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: in this game. And then sometimes I like to reward that, right,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that's what we saw last week. He felt the one.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, if you're gonna do this all game
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for us and put us in this spot, especially when
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: a team is up late in the game. You know,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Detroit was just pressing at Hoople last week with everybody.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: He'll give him Monra three go whatever they got. But
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: that was more I think the head coach battle there
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: of obviously Ben Johnson did a ton for that squad,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and that's why the people yelling like f Ben Johnson
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: not really required. It's the guy obviously gonna go take
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the upgrade that he got from it. But in this spot,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I could see like down late where he ends up
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: getting in the box late and they reward the blocking
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and the stuff that he's done already these first couple
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: of weeks. So I don't hate those types of calls.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: And then, like you said, one thing, I do see
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: who title that you mentioned and hoop, I'm coming to you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: But the Tanner Connor stuff like it's he projects almost
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: double the Julian Hill stuff, and it's just like again,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: not like he's gonna get a ton, but he's definitely
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: getting something. And there's captain lineups that are featuring him
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: just to make everything else fit too. So that's where
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I would struggle a little more on that because I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: feel like you got to sort of luck into that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: more than the other stuff kind of makes more sense.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Like I said, the Washington stuff could only get better
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: with the Wattle news not to wait and see, but
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: just little things like that, hoop any other tight end
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: thoughts from you here.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's tough. I mean usually we the tight ends,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: but man it is it's tough. I mean King Kid
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: is the most talented of this group, you know, the
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: likely one to have the most Fantasy points. But oh,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: it's not a comfortable situation there. You know, Dawson Knox
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: has been out there quite a bit, Like like title said,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I guess he would be my favorite because I plan
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: on playing a lot of Josh Allen Captain and I
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: want to capture anyone that could potentially catch a touchdown
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: from him. And he's two thousand or three thousand dollars
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: cheaper than King Kid, so you know, I'm good with him.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But like, if Tanner Connor is going to be anywhere
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: close to twenty percent owned, like, I'll find a way
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: to do something else, Like and it does look like
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: he is going to be up there at least fifteen percent,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: maybe more. I'll do anything else besides that, Like, no, thanks,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I'll have some just because I'm playing one hundred and
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: fifty teens. But man, I can't get to get to
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: that ownership on a guy that has a very very
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: good chance of getting zero on the slate. Julian Hill. Sure,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Jackson Hawes if he gets in some teams, I'm fine
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the best way to handle it. Guys.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: You just help us out here. We got seventy eight likes,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: we get to one hundred, we're gonna announce the first
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: ship at Games winner, but tonitle, I'll go back to
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you kickers, d anything to add there. One surprising thing
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: that I thought would be more popular is the buffalo
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: D in Captain. I know people don't love defenses as
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: it is, but when you get a five to one type,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: big spread types slate that people are thinking like that,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: sometimes you do see it a bit more. And I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: just haven't seen much talk about it, and it doesn't
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: look like they're gonna be that old bit.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: It'll get there. That is not to interrupt and hop in,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: but it will be higher than whatever these projections are showing.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to throw that, and it is
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: every single time we're in this scenario, defense and Captain
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: defense is higher than any projection site out there.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very well. Good shout out to DK though for
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: raising the price to five eight. I think that's a
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: big thing. Like, yeah, you get Joshua Palmer for four
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: to eight, you go up for eight hundred more. You
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: can eat Keon and Shakir. So I believe what Hoop's
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: saying for sure, but it won't be as high as
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: if they were priced four to eight or five K
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: like DK at least did that right and honestly with
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: that price increase. And I do think Hoops right that
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: people have seen how bad Miami is. They look at
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: the spread Buffalo at home, it makes so much sense.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I think I still prefer both kickers now, I for
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: sure prefer Prader over Patterson because if this game gets
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: out of hand in the second half, like the Dolphins
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: should go for every fourth and five and closer. If
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: it's not, if it's at midfield, they're greater. I'm worried
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: that the It just doesn't make sense to kick field
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: goals when you're down so big. So I prefer Prader.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I like him quite a bit. Patterson I'm pretty solid with.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I think Dolphins are the worst play on the slate.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I really see them struggling to get anywhere at least
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: unless Milak Washington Houses won like last week, and then
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I probably if I'm playing Dolphins, I'm probably almost certainly
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: playing Melik Washington eating chalk there and hoping he gets
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: a kick return punt return. But man, yeah, I don't
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: I don't love Bill's d at this price tag, and
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: probably maybe a little steam I'm gonna be underweight. I
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: prefer just the Palmers, the Shakirs, the Colemans, all of
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: that in that same range. So Matt Prater definitely my favorite.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call as well. Hoop anything on
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: FanDuel that you want to bring up here. We're gonna
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: get to the ship of games winners here in a moment.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: But anything like the price discrepancies that you see, that's
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: kind of the biggest thing that we usually look at.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Just curious if you had anything there.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. I mean, yeah, the formats pretty much
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: the same than one thing. Like you know, Josh Allen
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: definitely gets a boost overrun Fandel in terms of his
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: odds of being the optimal MVP. I mean, the scoring
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: is set up over there basically for like rushing quarterbacks,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: they benefit the most, and he is so what is
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: he He's fourteen to two and then in the MVP
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: twenty one three, so he's substantially more expensive, but man
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like it could be tougher for anyone to catch him.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be the same thing though a H and Cook.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get all the ownership for the most part
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: in the m v P, and as what I would say,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: it's just harder for the past catchers to get there
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: without the full PPR, So keep that in mind win
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: building teams. Shakier looks a little more expensive over here
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: at nine K and somewhat unfortunate because his game definitely
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: fits DK scoring more like you, if you're playing Shakir,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: you want him like a very likely Shakir outcome or
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: box score is like six for sixty six and he
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: finds finds the end zone like on FanDuel. That just
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: does not score as well as DK, and he's way
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: more expensive. Coleman is one thousand dollars cheaper, So that's
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: definitely one thing to take note of H. Prater and Patterson,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: you know, definitely like like Prator here, Bill's D seventy four,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: so pretty similar to the price on DK when you
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you factor in all the pricing stuff. Josh Palmer a
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: little bit lower. So a lot of these salaries are
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: pretty on on point with what we're seeing over on DK,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: where's Ray Davis, Like, you know.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: It could be a really cheaper than Ty Johnson.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's just going to say. And his game fits,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: his style play fits FanDuel scoring better, and Ty Johnson
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: is a thousand dollars more expensive, So that's definitely something
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to take note of. Malik Washington twenty eight even cheaper
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: over here on FanDuel. I think he's a fine option
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: as well. So a lot of the stuff is pretty
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: on point, you know, some smaller things Ray Davis versus
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Ty Johnson, Shakir a little more expensive. Malik Washington is
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit cheaper over here. So a lot of
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the same stuff. But again, if you are buying into
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: one of the three main captain MVPs Josh, Allen, h
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: and Cook, it is going to be harder for others
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to track them down in the MVP spot on FanDuel
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: as it would be.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: And also before I go to you title on final
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: thoughts with this, the FanDuel stuff and anything else is
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: just like the other thing I noticed about it. You
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Molik Washington one's an easy one. We look
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: at Discrepancy's he's cheaper on FanDuel than the other with
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: ten k more salary on FanDuel and the similar setup
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: in style now, but you know, even like Josh Palmer
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: is not that much more. But the one thing I
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: do notice is it leads to a more balanced bill.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: It just the build becomes naturally more balanced on FanDuel.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: So if you liked the Malik Washington, but you think
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: he's getting steamed up on DraftKings even though he's cheaper
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel, people may not end up there as much
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: because even when you go Josh Allen MVP, it doesn't
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: automatically force you down to a twenty eight hundred dollars receiver.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: In the flex you could play other guys. So there's
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of the middling price point guys that people
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: are liking on DraftKings that you might be able to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: get even more leveraged with on FanDuel. Who's set another
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: good point, like Ray Davis better scoring better for the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: format of the scoring format on FanDuel right now, not
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: seeing a ton of ownership because I just don't think
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of people need thirty two hundred dollars guys
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: or will end up there as much. So I think
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: there's for a slate title that has as much, Oh,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: this is just gonna be a Buffalo blowout, and it's
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the obvious onslaught and all this stuff. There's actually a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: lot more to it on both sites based on all
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the above. Anything else you have to add on FanDuel
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: or just in general for this slate as a whole.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, because there's so many tight ends mixing in
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: running backs lease on the Buffalo side. If the game
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: gets out of hand, like well, can see a lot
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: more guys this big of a spread. It's it's concentrated
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: at Captain, but it's clearly plenty of options to get
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: different at the flex. Now, I don't really have who
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: and you covered fandol Well, just the one thing that
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: does stand out again Ty Johnson and Ray Davis price,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Ty Johnson being one k more projecting less, a clear
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: pivot for more expensive. And then if people do go cheap,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I think they do go Meleek Washington too. Eight even
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: though you can't ignore that build. But there's plenty of
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: guys cheaper that Dawson Knox four hundred dollars cheaper, Tanner Connor, Shavers.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: If you think it gets out of hand, Jackson Hawes,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Julian Hill Ingle, guys that will be on the field
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: for cheaper. If you have a chalky bill, then you
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: drop Malik to any of those. You could go from
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: one hundred duke to like you go from Elik to
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Ingold and he outscores him there, I mean to a
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: solo shipper at the end of the day. So Wild
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: the league will be the cheapest people go to for
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the most part because salary, like you said, you don't
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: even have to go there. There will be players, multiple
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: that will be on the field for a decent amount
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: of snaps that are a fraction of that ownership to
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: try and get to the top by yourself.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great point. And another I mean that'd be
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: a perfect example of like the Tanner Connor stuff. I'm
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: with Hoop and he's getting a twenty percent on DraftKings
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: because eight hundred actually does something for you over there,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it's still super chalky of the play. Is he really
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get ownership on FanDuel at sixteen hundred? You love
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: him over there because he makes everything work. He is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: double the price, but you get ten k more in salary.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: You don't really need him on fan duel. But if
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: he ends up being needed chalk donkeys on DraftKings could
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: still be outright shippers on FanDuel. If you are saying
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: that and playing it that way, I'm just saying sure
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: things like that that I look at. I got a bet. Yeah,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: he saw one next Monday night though he saw of
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: this upcoming Monday, we got Detroit and it's I was
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: seeing you. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was at Baltimore.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: So Detroit at Baltimore. I got the bet. Who if
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the Ravens win, Hoop does a shoeye if the Ravens lose,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Hoop doesn't have to do one. Yeah, I remembers.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: How's that We've been down that path before. And if
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: you are going to try to bait me into any
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: shit taking the Lions, I need a number much bigger
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: than the current spread. So just keep that in mind.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: For the Monday show, I thought they were amazing. Now no,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: hell no, no, that.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Is all right. Well that didn't work, guys, So the title.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Do you have any other final thoughts? I know you
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: sort of hit your points on anything else, anything else
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: you want to add before we get out of here?
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  Speaker 3: No, enjoy it. I mean these Showdown games are always fun.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're one that can absolutely tilt your brain
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: out or whatever, like, don't be following it from the
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: start to the finish. Maybe just pull up your phone
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: at the end when it's all said and done, because man,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: these swings can can be brutal. You can think you're
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: right there and then one play that uh, the punt
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: return fumble in the Vikings Atlanta game, that was absolutely meaningless.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Shaloup if you're watching it. It wasn't just
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  Speaker 3: you that have bad memories. I think that his was
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  Speaker 3: a seventy five k swing and the wrong way. Just
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: those one thing, those two points, one play can absolutely
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  Speaker 3: change everything in Showdown. So if you're one that a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: little is in your emotions a lot and you you
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: feel them both ways, maybe just go to bed or
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: when the game's over and then look at your phone
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: because you won't know if you had a bad or
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: good break.
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  Speaker 2: So you do not pull up that. Man, that's that's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: just the day. If you want to watch the game
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: and you're not good at at sweating and handling swings,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: like just don't just don't even open that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like opening it with like five minutes left.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it's I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine for us, yeah, you know, but not everyone.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, if you're gonna go to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: bad pissed or wake up pissed because you had this,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: and like that's it's not just worth it for in life, yu.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And you know title two high way right till the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: damn things over the stack cras can get. People be
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: tagging me and stuff, and I'm like, no, won't even
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: a spy go go. Ever, then people chime in like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: we know what he's doing it easy, but he ain't
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: listening right now. It's until that money goes in the account,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I don't count nothing. So oop any final thoughts from you?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: We got these two winners, two announced, we've got the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: promo going on three for three. Anything else you want
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to add before we get out of here?
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  Speaker 2: No man excited? I mean football week three are right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it and it's it's funny you say
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: it all season Well we're already at this point. We're
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: already at that point, but week three is already here.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: It just keeps on moving, keeps on chugging along, and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: you know, looking forward to getting week three underway. And
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: you know hopefully get those shiping nation logos to the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: top of the leader board.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to hear this, Nyvorne, but I think this is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: what title was just talking about, and what I definitely
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: talk about is like people just be posting it before
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: stack corrections even come out. We've seen even top players
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: post screenshots on x about stuff and then get stack
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: corrected for one hundred k plus. It happens. So it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: not ideal, but it's part of the game that we play,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: and you always got to be careful. But typically the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: that corrections are correct there. You know, there's ones that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: are arguable, but like it's if it happened or they
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: gave it to I was just talking to my buddy
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: today speaking of that Super Bowl titled when you won
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen, you didn't have to sweat it,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think because but you saw others, Yeah, because
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: of it they'd given the two point conversion to the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: wrong guy, and it's like, it's the right stack correction.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: You want it to be correct because imagine you being
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: on the other side of it. But yeah, he says,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I waited for twenty minutes, sucked. Yeah, it's definitely brutal.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: All right, we apprecial, but you.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Do you do want them to get it right, like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: you said, I mean you might be on the other
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: you might be on the other side one of those days.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: But yeah, just enjoy, enjoy the whole sweat.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and who you got to bring this up before
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: we go. This is awesome. Jim Parrish, who chucked the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: ten bucks in earlier for us and didn't shout out
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: anything in the rest of the show, just kind of
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: threw ten bucks up. Appreciate you, Jim, but he says, Whoop.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: You might not remember me, but I watch you and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: roto grinders way back when I'm playing seven lineups with
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: four to two and five one.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Thoughtsop, and I remember I remember his name from back
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: in the day. I appreciate all the sport, and it
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: definitely definitely means it means a lot playing seven lineups
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: with four to two, five to one. We don't really
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: touch on it, but like the five to one stuff
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: in favor of Buffalo not going to be popular, but
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to be you know, be careful, I guess
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: with those five ones, because I think you're going to
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: see a lot of five ones tonight. In favor of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: buffalo playing those massive blowout scripts.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll definitely be seeing more like you could see
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: more than twenty five percent of the field play five
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: ones tonight. That's again something we don't spend a ton
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: of time on and people don't always look into that stuff,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: but that's definitely a thing, So keep that in mind
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: when you're building and looking at your portfolio and everything
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: that goes with it. Again, i'll remove this add this back.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: The stone is up and ready to go. We've already
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: announced the winners for the ship at games. From the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: other winners, we're gonna announce the last two and a second.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: But if you do want to get in on the action,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the codes at the top go to join the nation
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: right here, and when you get there, I suggest just
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: one of these two because it makes your life easier.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: If you want to check it all out without the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: contest sims, do this monthly one nine, but you will
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: type in the code three for three and get three
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: days for three dollars. And if you want to check
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: out the contest sims and see what those are all about,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: type in the code there three days for three dollars.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: The code at the top is three for three three
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  Speaker 1: fo R three. All right, the winner of Golden Ship
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: at number nine and this winner will play Hoop in
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the head to head this weekend, So please reach out
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to info at ship at nation dot com. We will
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: reach out to you as well.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, no big deal, just back back in the streets,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: just you know, picking up.
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  Speaker 1: The runder was what nine and a half?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Nine and a half, so I mean it's the live
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: over under is probably probably higher than that. Now we're
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: probably looking at ten and a half.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: The nine and a half is the average of the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: two winners we're about to announce. So winner number nine,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Golden Ship at winner Charles Galonia. Talk about a glow
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: up here. We got Charles Galonia, winner number nine. So
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: congrats to Charles. We will reach out via email. You
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: can reach out first if you want as well, info
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: at ship atnation dot com. We'll get you set up
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: your name, go up on the site. You'll be there
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: with the rest of the winners here shortly and be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: able to see that on the site. The other winner.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: This is the big one because this week winner number
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: ten is gonna be a big one because you're gonna
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: play in the Share a Ship sas is the acronym
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: where you're in the five hundred and fifty five dollars
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  Speaker 1: playing for one million dollars, you would win one hundred
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: thousand for yourself and you would boost the prize pool
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: by five hundred thousand dollars to five hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine thousand. So this is a big one. Golden ship
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: at winner number ten of fifty, still forty available on
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  Speaker 1: the season. Congratulations Zach age Zach. We've been around. We
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: know Zach. We got a Zach right here, but we
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: love a good Zach and I know Zach you've been
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: around for a while, so again, truly appreciate all the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: support of everybody. Happy to see people that have been
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: supporting us now winning into these games. It's gonna be exciting.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Reach out to info at ship at nation dot com.
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  Speaker 1: We'll reach out to you and make sure it's all
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: set up. A congrats to Charles and Zach winners of Goldenship.
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  Speaker 1: It's nine and ten. If you guys want to get
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: into the community and get into the games, you can
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: check it out three days for three dollars, see what
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: it's all about, and then you'll probably want to stick around.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: We showed the post earlier somebody sent it in today.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Everything is streamlined. It's a very good experience, great people,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: awesome setup to be around. Appreciate you guys, Thanks for watching.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this one for Hoop for
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  Speaker 1: title for myself, TOTEG and tambo led ship it