Latest / The Steve & Jeff Show / Everyday Heroes Interview Series Episode 10: The hardest working girl at Lincoln Middle School.
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- 0:03SPEAKER_01: Well, hey everybody, welcome back to another, yet another exciting episode of the Steve and Jeff Experience Podcast.
- 0:11SPEAKER_01: I'm Steve.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: And I'm Jeff.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: How's it going, Steve?
- 0:14SPEAKER_01: It's going great, Jeff.
- 0:15SPEAKER_01: Jeff.
- 0:16SPEAKER_01: I tell you, if it was going any better, I would think the game was rigged.
- 0:19SPEAKER_01: It is going so well.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you, people are lining up.
- 0:23SPEAKER_01: They're lining up to listen to this podcast.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: And they can listen at home.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: I don't know why they're lining up, but they're lining up places to listen to this.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: It's just, it's so exciting.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: It's it's amazing to watch.
- 0:36SPEAKER_01: It's humbling.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: It seems like it was only a week ago we did this last time.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: Um, well, actually, it was a week ago.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: It was, it was.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: So anything happened with you uh interesting in the last week since last we talked?
- 0:49SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, on the first podcast, we had my my psychologist, you know, and I think maybe she's gonna give me another appointment.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: She was pretty mad.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: She's pretty darn bad, but I think she's gonna give me another appointment.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: We're we're negotiating, it's gonna cost more, but you know, but but Jeff, you know, quality costs.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: That's just what you get, just you you know, you gotta you gotta just pay more, you know what I mean?
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: I agree.
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: You know, I uh I don't want to take any credit for this, D, but you know, behind the scenes, I've been you know putting in a good word for you because she's actually my psychologist now.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: Oh, isn't she great?
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: She's really good, you know.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: A little uh surprising because you know, our first interview, to be honest with you, I thought she was kind of you know hung up on rules and rags and standards and that kind of stuff.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: But I think she I think there's a part of her that really enjoys kind of cutting loose.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: And oh that's that's what I'm working with her on.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: Oh, we used to get loaded all the time.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, no, she she definitely cuts loose, yeah.
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: I tell you, and she she had kind of a kind of a bad drug experience there in one of the sessions, but I think I think she's mostly recovered, you know.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: I didn't feel pretty good now, you know.
- 1:55SPEAKER_01: But but I digress, but I digress, Jeff.
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: We have another exciting guest tonight.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: We have we have a great one.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: I thought, you know, we've we've got yeah, so many podcasts have these people who wrote books or these people who you know did things that most people can't possibly imagine doing.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: I thought, why don't we just have real people, real people who are doing the real work, the the the essential work, and and not getting rewarded for that essential work, but doing that essential work that keeps us all moving and keeps us all, you know, wherever it is we are.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: Well, I do, and and you know, you kind of gave me a heads up.
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: I like this, Steve, because I don't always know who the guests are, but you sort of give me clues and you mentioned that uh it had something to do with an athlete and uh uh and and somebody who was involved in information and technology and uh communication.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: So I'm thinking javelin thrower, just a guess, you know.
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: You know, Jeff, you are so close.
- 3:03SPEAKER_01: You are so close.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: Oh bet what our guest throws, I bet is wonderful practice for throwing a javelin.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: She could probably throw a javelin.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: Let me let's let's bring her on.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, she's she's over there waving on the other side of the glass.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: You see yours, hi, you know.
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: Hi, so oh, she doesn't have a javelin in her hand, but this is uh I'd like to introduce Jeff.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: This is the the person that delivers our newspaper.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: It's Mallory Marshall Mayflower.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: Hey Mallory, how are you?
- 3:32SPEAKER_03: Oh, hi hi, Mr.
- 3:34SPEAKER_03: Steve.
- 3:34SPEAKER_03: Hi, Mr.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: Jeff.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: How are you today?
- 3:36SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're we're doing great, we're doing great.
- 3:38SPEAKER_01: And you just do such a wonderful job.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: The paper's always there at the same time, it's always on the step.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: It's not, I don't have to go out in the yard and get it.
- 3:46SPEAKER_01: And if it's raining, it's got one of those little bags on it.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: It's just, you know, you do such a wonderful job.
- 3:51SPEAKER_03: Oh, gee, thanks.
- 3:52SPEAKER_03: You know, I I think of myself as a consummate professional.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: You are and you are and adorable.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, yeah, yeah, not only um, you know, I can see you across, you know, from the the other side of the glass, but your voice is uh is amazing, almost reminds me of Steve, what was the name of that child actress back in the was it uh it was the name of she was named after a drink.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: Shirley Temple.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, Shirley Temple.
- 4:19SPEAKER_01: Oh, I thought you were thinking of Linda Blair.
- 4:21SPEAKER_01: I didn't know.
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, well, Linda Blair too.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Linda Blair too.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: Different voice, but I digress.
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: But yeah, Shirley Temple.
- 4:29SPEAKER_01: She died a little Shirley Temple voice there.
- 4:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think she does have a little of that.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: And I used to have a big crush on her and Mickey Rooney, you know, back in those days.
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: So uh it's very used to meet you.
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: You were recumenically.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: No, that was good.
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: That was good.
- 4:42SPEAKER_01: You were ahead of your time, Jeff, you know.
- 4:43SPEAKER_03: I don't know who any of those people are.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: No, they've been dead longer than you've been alive.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: So but I digress.
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: But but but Mallory, say, I how old are you, Mallory?
- 4:53SPEAKER_03: Well, I um I'm just turned 13.
- 4:56SPEAKER_03: Um, and that's that's something because you you actually have to you have to be uh at least 13 years old uh to deliver the paper.
- 5:03SPEAKER_03: But I I did a I did a fib and I I told them I was older so I could deliver sooner.
- 5:10SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, wow, and and you know what?
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: You were doing such a good job.
- 5:14SPEAKER_01: You were doing a better job.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: There used to be a guy that delivered the paper that was probably like 45 and just you know threw it any old place, you know, and had this beat-up car.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: You are you do so much better a job than that guy did.
- 5:26SPEAKER_03: That's that's what that's why I did the fib.
- 5:29SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm real sorry I did it, but I just I saw the work that they were doing, and it it was to be it was subpar to be polite about it.
- 5:39SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 5:40SPEAKER_01: Because you you live you live in the neighborhood too.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: You live kind of down the block, I know, don't you?
- 5:47SPEAKER_03: I saw the state, the my mommy's paper would come in, and I said, Mommy, this cannot do.
- 5:54SPEAKER_03: Uh something must be done about this.
- 5:57SPEAKER_03: So I I went to the the local newspaper and and I and I applied and I I gave them a forgery of my birth certificate.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: And and Mallory, does your mom know you're on this podcast with us?
- 6:13SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
- 6:14SPEAKER_03: She's she's waiting in the car right now.
- 6:16SPEAKER_03: You can look out the window and say, hi mom.
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh, is that okay?
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: I thought that was I thought there was a bill collector out there.
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: Hi, you know, okay.
- 6:23SPEAKER_01: That's your mom.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: I thought it was Mickey Rooney for me.
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: No, she looks a little like Mickey Rooney, you know?
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: No, the image of of of kind of like the uh Midsummer Night's Dream era, you know?
- 6:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: Oh, she'll she'll really she'll really like that.
- 6:38SPEAKER_03: That'll mean a lot of help.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: And and Matt and Mallory, I know that you said that you that you had the fib to to uh you know to get the paper out and whatever.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: We don't want to get you in any sort of trouble.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Would it be helpful if we used a different name for this interview?
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: I don't know, is Marshall or or May Marshall Flower Mallory?
- 7:02SPEAKER_03: Well, boy, I don't see the thing is I feel like as uh a sort of journalist, you know, being as I I deliver the news to your front door, it would go against the code for me to lie and and to deceive.
- 7:18SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, that's a point.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she is 13, yes.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is a good point, Mallory.
- 7:25SPEAKER_03: Lying and deceiving and fibbing is wrong.
- 7:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because remember that that one reporter that just completely made up that whole story and then and like won like a prize, and then it's like, oh well, I made it all up.
- 7:39SPEAKER_01: Ooh, oh that was bad.
- 7:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, you don't want to do that.
- 7:43SPEAKER_03: No, then you have to give your prize back, yeah.
- 7:46SPEAKER_03: And then your mom is mad at you, and then and then they make you sit in a corner and think about what you did.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: And what and what if you already ate the prize or you already wore it or something, you know?
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: You mean it could have been an edible prize?
- 7:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, chocolate prize.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: No, I some a lot of a lot of companies give out edible prizes.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I know, I know I really enjoy getting those edible prizes.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: I had one right before the podcast.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: I had an edible prize.
- 8:12SPEAKER_03: I don't think I could eat a chocolate built on lies.
- 8:15SPEAKER_01: You know, it it tastes good, but it it's got a bad aftertaste.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 8:20SPEAKER_01: It's got the aftertaste of lies, you know.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that kind of brings me down a little bit, but uh let me just ask you that's okay.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
- 8:29SPEAKER_00: It's not your fault, Mallory.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: It's uh it must be these chocolate edibles I've been eating.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, probably too many of those.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: The broad race ones, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 8:39SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, those are good.
- 8:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those are really good.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but but I do have a question.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: Um, when I was a little kid, I tried to do a paper route and I always had trouble throwing correctly.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: I you know, I would overthrow the paper and it would end up in, you know, against the person's window.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: So, you know, one time I broke a window, other times I missed the the front yard altogether.
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: Is there a technique that you use for spinning the papers, or do you just you hand deliver them?
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: I I don't know how you do it now.
- 9:11SPEAKER_03: No, it's it's it's all in the wrist.
- 9:14SPEAKER_03: You just gotta give it the right uh you you think of it, what you have in your hand is a precious baby full of information, and you want to make sure this baby sails right to the front door, and that's where the metaphor falls apart, but you want to make sure that baby of information just goes wee wee woo out through the and you know, because you wouldn't want to throw a baby at a window.
- 9:39SPEAKER_01: No, no, you'd want to make sure the window was open before you threw the baby.
- 9:44SPEAKER_03: I mean, because otherwise I like to think of myself as a stork, and the paper is a baby, and I'm delivering babies to everyone in the neighborhood.
- 9:53SPEAKER_01: Wow, so you're sort of like the obstetrician of the news?
- 9:57SPEAKER_03: What's that?
- 9:58SPEAKER_01: That's like a doctor that's a stork.
- 10:01SPEAKER_03: Whoa, they have doctor storks.
- 10:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, and they wear those little hats like the plastic pickle stork, you know.
- 10:08SPEAKER_03: I love those.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, those are cool, aren't they?
- 10:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm I'm super impressed.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: Um uh uh Mallory, do you have uh when you get older?
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: Do you want to somehow use this experience to you know to do something else with your life, you know, besides throwing babies?
- 10:27SPEAKER_03: Oh, absolutely, yeah.
- 10:28SPEAKER_03: Because um, I figure this is just the first step on a journey into journalism, and one day I want to bring down the corporate fat cats of America.
- 10:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they've been controlling the news for too long, haven't they, Millie?
- 10:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 10:45SPEAKER_03: That's what my mom says when she yells at the TV.
- 10:48SPEAKER_03: She says, Oh, one day those corporate fat cats, they're gonna get their due.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: Your mom sounds like a very smart lady.
- 10:56SPEAKER_03: And our cat is just the right uh weight.
- 10:59SPEAKER_03: Our veterinarian says that it's just a good weight for a cat, not fat.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: And so and when you're throwing these newspapers, do you sometimes find yourself yelling fake news papers?
- 11:17SPEAKER_03: No, no, I would never deliver a paper full of fake news.
- 11:22SPEAKER_03: That's something a baby would do.
- 11:25SPEAKER_03: I, you know, I want people to trust that when they see me pedaling my bike down the street, that they're only getting the straight facts.
- 11:34SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: And you know, I I tell you, every paper that she has delivered, you know, I think the news has gotten better since you picked up that route.
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: Because I before you had that route, I there was a lot of garbage in that paper, but now it's all pretty good stuff.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that I'm reading.
- 11:54SPEAKER_03: Oh, oh, yeah, please.
- 11:56SPEAKER_03: It's because I've been taking out all of the bad news and putting in good news in place.
- 12:02SPEAKER_01: Oh I wondered why the paper was so small these days, you know.
- 12:07SPEAKER_03: It's just well, you know, why would I want to deliver something to your door that's just gonna make you sad or angry?
- 12:14SPEAKER_03: I want to bring you something that gives you a smile.
- 12:17SPEAKER_01: Well, and it does.
- 12:19SPEAKER_01: It gives me a smile every morning.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: But I I gotta ask, Mallory, if you're taking the bad news out and just delivering the good news, doesn't that make the paper pretty light and makes it harder to throw?
- 12:30SPEAKER_03: It does.
- 12:31SPEAKER_03: You know, it's really interesting that you say that because when I go through the paper taking out the bad news, I find that it's most of the paper.
- 12:41SPEAKER_03: Like, where's all the good news?
- 12:43SPEAKER_03: Where are they it's like they don't even try printing it or something?
- 12:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like it gets stuck in the office somewhere.
- 12:50SPEAKER_03: It just never Do you think it's stuck somewhere?
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: It might be stuck.
- 12:54SPEAKER_01: There might you know.
- 12:55SPEAKER_01: I bet, I bet there's like a big it's like it's like water pipes, except it's not water, it's like a newspipe, and they got all these pipes and they turn on the faucet.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's like you get a clog in your sink.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: You know, they've got a clog in the newspipe.
- 13:09SPEAKER_03: See this another reason I want to go into journalism.
- 13:13SPEAKER_03: I want to be the information plumber that unclogs the newspipe.
- 13:19SPEAKER_03: You'd be the obstetrician plumber.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, an obstetrician plumber.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 13:26SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 13:27SPEAKER_01: I think that's a noble profession.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: So Steve, Steve brought up something that I have a question about.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Um, Steve said, you know, how some of the newspapers are getting lighter.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: Um there's probably less people who read them.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: I know they have this thing, it's called um the internet, I think.
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: And do you know you know what that is, Mallory?
- 13:45SPEAKER_00: I've heard of that.
- 13:46SPEAKER_03: My mommy won't let me go on the internet.
- 13:48SPEAKER_03: She says that it's full of uh podiatrists.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: But um, my question is so with less people getting the newspaper and you still doing the routes, have you substituted any del like delivering other things besides newspapers, things other things you could throw at people's houses or things you could deliver, you know, kind of like a door door doormash, like uh like you could throw cheeseburgers right at the door.
- 14:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: So do you do anything like that?
- 14:21SPEAKER_03: I never thought of doing throwing cheeseburgers along with the newspaper.
- 14:25SPEAKER_03: Um sometimes I do like to stick in, you know, little surprises though.
- 14:30SPEAKER_03: I'm surprised that you guys haven't noticed by now, you know, some of the things that I've been putting in with the paper.
- 14:37SPEAKER_03: Um because I like, you know, it's not enough just to just to give you information that brightens your day.
- 14:43SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I like to sneak in little things that make me smile.
- 14:47SPEAKER_03: Like I'll catch a ladybug and wrap it up in the paper for you.
- 14:51SPEAKER_03: Or um sometimes I'll put a like a pretty flower or a cool leaf.
- 14:55SPEAKER_03: Or or sometimes um I even sneak in some of my snacks, like a fruit roll-up or a part of a banana.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: Wait, wait, that was you?
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: I thought I was reading the paper one day, reading this delightful news, thinking, oh, what a wonderful little paper this is, and wondering where some of the pages went, because some of them were like half a page kind of thing.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: But but and suddenly I'm sitting there and and on my lap is a fruit roll-up.
- 15:22unknown: Yeah, you're gonna be a little bit.
- 15:23SPEAKER_01: That's a fruit roll up.
- 15:24SPEAKER_01: I said, I thought, I don't remember getting a fruit roll-up, but I ate it, it was delicious.
- 15:28SPEAKER_03: It well and this and they're all natural too.
- 15:32SPEAKER_03: They're made with real fruit.
- 15:33SPEAKER_03: It says so on the package.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: I think it was from break and yeah, yeah, and you're really onto something, Mallory, because if the news can't be better and sweeter, then putting in sweet food just makes the news that much sweeter.
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 15:50SPEAKER_03: You totally get me, Jeff.
- 15:52SPEAKER_01: I do, there you go.
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- 18:02SPEAKER_01: That was that really kind of motivated me.
- 18:04SPEAKER_01: They can make others.
- 18:06SPEAKER_03: Was that a school that's that's on the internet?
- 18:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was internet's had schools.
- 18:13SPEAKER_01: It went right from the back of a comic book to the internet.
- 18:17SPEAKER_01: It's like in in one move.
- 18:19SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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- 18:28SPEAKER_00: And and Steve, you just brought up another source of information, which is comic books.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: And I know that comic books have become especially with uh Marvel and all the you know the movies that are based on comic books.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: Uh Mallory, I think you ought to look into delivering comic books to people too, which I I would sign up for it right now.
- 18:49SPEAKER_00: I would subscribe.
- 18:50SPEAKER_03: That's a great idea.
- 18:52SPEAKER_03: I can that's and and comic books are made of paper, and that could feel that could make the newspaper not feel so light.
- 19:00SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 19:01SPEAKER_01: That could be an insert, you know.
- 19:02SPEAKER_01: It like if you're ripping out all the bad news, which would be, you know, I don't know, 90% of the paper, probably.
- 19:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you rip all that out, and then you throw in like a Batman or or you know, uh a Marvel or something, you know, wouldn't that that would be cool, wouldn't it?
- 19:18SPEAKER_03: My mom only lets me read Archie comics.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: You know, Archie had red hair like Mickey Rooney.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: Uh I think I think actually Mickey Rooney may have played Archie in a movie at one point.
- 19:33SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 19:36SPEAKER_00: Such a big fan.
- 19:37SPEAKER_00: So you know he's about the only guy that I was taller than.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: So speaking of Archie Comics, uh, you know, Mallory, would you say you're more uh Betty or a Veronica?
- 19:47SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm definitely more of a Betty.
- 19:50SPEAKER_03: Uh because uh Veronica, um, her wealth is inherited.
- 19:55SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, um her her dad, I think, is one of those corporate fat cats that my mom's always yelling at.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's one of those fat cats.
- 20:05SPEAKER_01: He even looks like a fat cat, doesn't he?
- 20:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I think Hiram Lodge is a fat cat.
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think he is.
- 20:11SPEAKER_00: I think my favorite character was Jughead.
- 20:13SPEAKER_00: Was Jughead the one did he I don't remember, did he have like a like uh some sort of like a crown?
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's yeah.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: I was always a big fan of that.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: I uh you know when I was a little kid, I used to dress up and pretend I was a king, yeah, um, you know, or a prince.
- 20:30SPEAKER_03: He loves to eat hamburgers, which is what you said I should deliver to the doors.
- 20:35SPEAKER_03: So yeah, it could be like I could put a jughead comic in the newspaper with a hamburger, and it's like a whole jughead experience right at your door.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: And and you know, funny you should bring up Jughead because if you remember the Archie's cartoons, yes, you know, when the Archies were they were like a rock band in this cartoon that they had, Jughead was the drummer, and we had famous drummer school.
- 21:01SPEAKER_03: This is a whole tie thing here.
- 21:04SPEAKER_03: See what happens when you just stick with positivity, it all comes together in the end.
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: It does, yeah, and so many times it's just a matter of connecting things, you know.
- 21:15SPEAKER_00: It's like uh peanut butter and chocolate.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: You know, you put those two together, you end up with like the best candy bar of all time.
- 21:21SPEAKER_00: So putting together cheeseburgers and comic books and 13-year-old delivery girl.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: Uh to me, it's just a it's a winner.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: I you know, I think that's I think that's a great course.
- 21:34SPEAKER_01: You know, I know you're about to probably start high school soon and you know go on with your education, but you know, you could really start this as a business, and this could be this could be your career.
- 21:44SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 21:44SPEAKER_03: I mean I don't know if I want to be a delivery person as a as a career.
- 21:50SPEAKER_03: I doesn't feel like there's a lot of room to, you know, to to grow.
- 21:56SPEAKER_01: You could hire a bunch of others and then and have them do the delivery.
- 22:00SPEAKER_01: Reason then you could exploit them and make money off them.
- 22:02SPEAKER_03: But but wouldn't then I become the corporate fat cat?
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: Well you wouldn't be you wouldn't necessarily be fat.
- 22:10SPEAKER_03: You know, you might be a cat, but I might be if if I keep eating all those cheeseburgers eating when I'm with the Jughead comics.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: Oh well, Mallory, Mallory, let me, if I can, you know, I'm I'm a lot older than you, you know, and and I've had um a whole lifetime of experiences and how much experience well you know too much to remember, too much to to talk about, but I think maybe I could share a little bit of you know a recommendation, something for you to think about.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: Don't give up on your dreams and don't change a good thing.
- 22:45SPEAKER_00: If being a doing a paper route, you're good at it, you're successful at it, don't give up on that.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of people they they they want to like go to school and learn something else, and then you know, and who knows whether they're gonna be good at that.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: But clearly you are wonderful at delivering uh anything.
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: And so I you know, I would not give that that up um at all.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: What do you think, Steve?
- 23:09SPEAKER_01: You know, you know, Jeff, you make such a good point because I can I can speak from experience too.
- 23:14SPEAKER_01: I am much older than you, and I'm almost as old as Jeff, in fact.
- 23:18SPEAKER_01: How much?
- 23:19SPEAKER_01: I'm very close, very close to his age, in fact.
- 23:22SPEAKER_01: And I was really good when I was your age, I was really good at staring out windows, and I gave that up and I pursued education.
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: Don't you regret it?
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: Don't you regret it now, Steve?
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: I do, because I could still be in the second floor apartment staring out the windows, and I'd be, I don't know, I think I'd be happier, you know, you know.
- 23:40SPEAKER_03: Gosh, that's really good advice, Mr.
- 23:42SPEAKER_03: Jeff and Mr.
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: Steve.
- 23:43SPEAKER_03: I never thought of it like that.
- 23:45SPEAKER_03: Like, what if I did something different and I wasn't good at it, and then my life would be ruined just like yours.
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Mall and Mallory, in all likelihood, that is what would happen.
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, I so this is a good time you're at a crossroads, 13 years old.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: Most people make their their decisions on what they're gonna be like the rest of their life, you know, somewhere between 12 and 13 and a half.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: And so you're you're at the perfect age to make a you know, to make that decision.
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: And I you know, I just you know, I I don't know you, but I want the best for you.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: So uh um, you know, do whatever you want, but if if I were you, I would stay exactly where you are.
- 24:25SPEAKER_01: Well, and and and you know, Jeff, one of the exciting things about this podcast is that look at what look at the good we can do.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: I mean, we can't maybe maybe we can't make as much money as that former comedian MMA fighter, but but but Jeff, but we can serve as an example of what not to do.
- 24:45SPEAKER_01: We are giving her a vivid example of how not to live your life, and I think that's worth a lot.
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think you you just brought up a perfect point.
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: So here you have hypothetically, you have somebody who was a wrestler who was a comedian and decides they're gonna do podcasts.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: Are they good at being at doing podcasts?
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: No, they were probably very good at wrestling, and if they had stuck with wrestling, who knows?
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: Maybe they would be a top wrestler right now.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: But instead, they have feelings that maybe if I change and do something different, I can be better, but they're not.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: You're always better staying where you're at.
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what my parents always told me.
- 25:24SPEAKER_03: That would be like that would be like if you were if you were on a a a beloved sitcom and then and then you stopped being on sitcoms, and and then you're not beloved anymore, and that's like exactly what you're talking about.
- 25:42SPEAKER_03: You did the the thing you're good at, and then you left that thing, and you did another thing you're bad at, and now your life is ruined forever.
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and Jeff, Jeff, those were such wise words.
- 25:54SPEAKER_01: Just stay where you are.
- 25:56SPEAKER_01: You know, my parents told me that.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: My parents told me, Look, Steve, stay right where you are.
- 26:02SPEAKER_01: They told me that right before they moved.
- 26:04SPEAKER_01: They said, Steve, stay right where you are.
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: And I did.
- 26:07SPEAKER_03: My mom's always telling me that too, and I I never understood it until right now.
- 26:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and Mallory talk it out with older folks, you know.
- 26:18SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 26:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the older generation is a treasure, to be sure.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: And Mallory, I don't know if you know, but you know, I I have a connection to the TV show Friends.
- 26:30SPEAKER_00: And here you have a case where yeah, I do.
- 26:33SPEAKER_00: Well, I have one of their noses, Jennifer Aniston's nose, actually.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: But um, what I want to tell you is you look at that show, none of them had the success by moving on to other things.
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: If they were smart, they would have been friends forever.
- 26:48SPEAKER_00: Friends forever is a is a is a is um a path to success.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: So I I think we can learn a lot from from that experience.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 26:58SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 26:59SPEAKER_03: I'm so so glad I got to be on your radio show today.
- 27:04SPEAKER_03: I feel like this is a life-changing moment for me.
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: If we can help you at all, I I feel like my my whole life is better by just helping you, you know, avoid um mistakes that you know other people have made.
- 27:19SPEAKER_03: You should you should come to my school and tell all the kids in my class about this.
- 27:24SPEAKER_01: That would be great for the podcast, too.
- 27:26SPEAKER_01: We get all those juvenile listeners, you know, that's zero to five.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: Now they're a little bit older than that, but they're still they they got maybe some younger brothers and sisters.
- 27:34SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, you got the zero to five demographic.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: Well, Steve, I I don't I don't want to be selfish here, but you know, if everybody stays the same and we get them at zero to five, we'll have them forever.
- 27:44SPEAKER_01: Well, right, exactly.
- 27:46SPEAKER_01: Now, of course, we'll they'll live a whole lot longer than we will, but but but but I think we'll have them forever.
- 27:51SPEAKER_01: They'll listen to the old reruns, you know.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: It's like I love Lucy, you know, whatever.
- 27:55SPEAKER_01: People still watch that, right?
- 27:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what's that?
- 27:58SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, long before you were born.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: Again, again, the same thing.
- 28:03SPEAKER_00: Lucy, even this is before you, very successful.
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: And look at her now, she's dead.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know.
- 28:10SPEAKER_03: So if she just stayed doing the thing she was good at, she'd still be doing it.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: She'd still be doing it.
- 28:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not God, but that's that would be my assumption.
- 28:19SPEAKER_01: I think I think we can deduce that she would still be on a sitcom.
- 28:25SPEAKER_01: And still have red hair.
- 28:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah.
- 28:29SPEAKER_03: Every every dead person I can think of, they weren't doing the thing that they were so good at when they died.
- 28:38SPEAKER_03: It's like all the pieces are coming together now.
- 28:42SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 28:44SPEAKER_01: So I gosh, I th you know, Jeff, it's it's just I I feel so good that we can have this impact on a young generation, on a young person just on the on the brink of starting her life.
- 28:57SPEAKER_01: And and we can have this this impact, this this positive uh gesture, this positive news that we can bring to her.
- 29:04SPEAKER_01: It's just it it it fills me with joy.
- 29:10SPEAKER_03: I I think this is even bigger than coming to my class.
- 29:13SPEAKER_03: I think this should be like a whole like school assembly, like we should bring all the kids into the gymnasium and you should tell them, tell them to only stick at the one thing you're good at and never, ever, ever, ever change.
- 29:30SPEAKER_00: Well, and Mallory, I don't I don't I I don't want to uh I want you to misinterpret what I'm saying.
- 29:36SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be good at it to stay, continue to do it, because you can always get better at it as time goes on.
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: The key part of this is don't try anything else.
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: Just stay where you're at.
- 29:50SPEAKER_00: If if you do that, Mallory, I think you'll be successful.
- 29:53SPEAKER_03: You're right.
- 29:53SPEAKER_03: I I wasn't shooting high enough.
- 29:56SPEAKER_03: I could be great at the thing that I do and do nothing else.
- 30:00SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 30:01SPEAKER_01: You could be you could be the artist, the newspaper artist, the delivery artist.
- 30:07SPEAKER_01: You could put the put quality back into delivery.
- 30:11SPEAKER_03: I I like that.
- 30:12SPEAKER_01: And deliver that essentially, you know, that essential work that's so important because hey, where would we be if we didn't get that paper every morning?
- 30:19SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
- 30:20SPEAKER_03: How would you ever find out about what good things are happening?
- 30:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
- 30:24SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 30:25SPEAKER_00: I feel rejuvenated.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: You know, Steve, I think I I found our calling helping people.
- 30:31SPEAKER_00: It's all about helping people.
- 30:33SPEAKER_01: I think so.
- 30:34SPEAKER_01: So maybe, you know, you know, gosh, maybe that's a new direction, not only for Mallory, but maybe that's a new direction for the podcast, too, because maybe now we can get into youth counseling, career advice, you know, helping people who are stuck, being a life coach.
- 30:51SPEAKER_01: Ooh, ooh.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't we make great life coaches, Jeff?
- 30:55SPEAKER_01: Because you know, they'll say those who can't who can't do teach.
- 30:59SPEAKER_01: So what uh hey, we should be teaching, right?
- 31:02SPEAKER_00: I I think that's our calling for sure.
- 31:04SPEAKER_00: I I well it's been very nice to meet you, Mallory.
- 31:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Mallory, this has been great.
- 31:09SPEAKER_01: And I will see you bright and early tomorrow morning when that paper hits hits a step.
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: I know it's gonna hit the step.
- 31:15SPEAKER_03: I'll have uh a fresh new fruit roll-up in there just for you.
- 31:20SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh Mallory, you are the best.
- 31:22SPEAKER_01: Thank you, and thank your mom for waiting outside, too.
- 31:25SPEAKER_01: She could have come in, but she probably she probably thinks this is a lousy podcast.
- 31:29SPEAKER_03: So yeah, no, she I asked her if she would and she refused.
- 31:33SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I've I've met your mom out in the neighborhood before, and yeah, I yeah, I think I know why she refused, but but listen, that wasn't me.
- 31:42SPEAKER_01: It's not even the same tire size as my car.
- 31:45SPEAKER_01: It wasn't me, okay?
- 31:47SPEAKER_03: Okay, I'll tell her.
- 31:48SPEAKER_01: Don't know who did that to your yard, was not me, but but but I digress.
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: But anyway, but listen, thanks so much for coming in today, Mallory.
- 31:57SPEAKER_01: And uh, I'm just excited to that we have helped somebody.
- 32:00SPEAKER_01: We have actually helped somebody with our show, Jeff.
- 32:03SPEAKER_01: That is so good.
- 32:04SPEAKER_01: And we will, you know, we'll be back we'll next time.
- 32:06SPEAKER_01: We'll hey, maybe we'll help somebody else next time.
- 32:09SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
- 32:10SPEAKER_01: Who knows, right?
- 32:11SPEAKER_01: It's that's that's the great thing about this.
- 32:12SPEAKER_01: We never really know what's gonna happen, so it's kind of funny, isn't it?
- 32:16SPEAKER_00: And we don't care, and it doesn't matter, right?
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 32:19SPEAKER_00: It doesn't really matter, it's right.
- 32:20SPEAKER_00: But the one thing, Steve, I I think because we're not hypocrites, next week's show will be exactly like this week's show.
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: It will be we don't move on either, Mallory.
- 32:30SPEAKER_00: We stay the same, we stay exactly the same.
- 32:33SPEAKER_01: So next week we will interview, we will do an interview exactly like this.
- 32:37SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll even bring Mallory back.
- 32:38SPEAKER_01: We'll do literally the same questions, the same talk, the same why change?
- 32:43SPEAKER_00: Why change?
- 32:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because hey, if it works, keep even if it doesn't, keep doing it.
- 32:50SPEAKER_00: Chasing your dreams is so overrated.
- 32:52SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: Just wanted to share that with you, and it's tiring.
- 32:55SPEAKER_03: That's what we're gonna do with the headline of tomorrow's paper.
- 32:58SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh yeah, I can't wait.
- 33:01SPEAKER_01: Oh, a little coffee and a little headline about stay where you are.
- 33:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't wait.
- 33:06SPEAKER_01: Oh, that should shock our neighborhood a little bit.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: Hey, well, listen, hey, thanks very much.
- 33:10SPEAKER_01: We're just about out of time, but but we will be back next time, and thank you again, Mallory.
- 33:16SPEAKER_01: It was great having you.
- 33:17SPEAKER_03: Oh, gee, thanks.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Mr.
- 33:19SPEAKER_03: Steve and Mr.
- 33:20SPEAKER_03: Jeff.
- 33:21SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Mallory.