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Liz Ellis Stranded in the Outback, Netball's Biggest Mouths & World Cup Drama · No Dribble

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Well, dribblers don't miss a beat, do they? We have
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: all by now heard the news that next year we
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: can go and listen to this shit.
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  Speaker 2: Jack be nimble. Jack be quick.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Jack wound up with a broken neck. Humpty Dumpty, do
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: your thing. Daddy's going to buy you a diamond ring.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you go to a Nickelback concert, hey?
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  Speaker 1: That one is called Must Be Nice, which there's a
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: much better version of that in Hamilton.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, you're on No Dribble, strap in!
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: debate the merits of Nickelback, and we talk about netball
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  Speaker 1: and so much more.
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  Speaker 2: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Kath Cox. Konnichiwa.
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  Speaker 2: Konnichiwa.
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  Speaker 4: I'm from Tokyo. That's so cool. I'm Liz Ellis and
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  Speaker 4: I'm where I always am, which is not that exciting.
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  Speaker 4: But anywho.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: Come on, Pat Malone, but Catherine is still having this
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  Speaker 1: birthday party.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, look, it's going to go for as long as
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  Speaker 5: I can stretch it out, but we can't talk about
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  Speaker 5: that until we talk about Nickelback. I love the dribblers
• 1:19
  Speaker 5: when they point out stuff to us as important as this.
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  Speaker 5: I would not have known Nickelback was coming. I've now
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  Speaker 5: got on the Google. It's on the 14th of October
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  Speaker 5: at Afterplay Arena in Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: Alitha and I are.
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  Speaker 5: Educated, but I feel like it would be a disservice
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  Speaker 5: if we didn't take you, Carolyn, to experience those great lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, put out your lumberjack jackets and get on to Nickelback.
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  Speaker 4: But it is on. So, Catherine, I thought you must have, like,
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  Speaker 4: been following the Nickelback socials because we get this random
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  Speaker 4: message from you. 14th of October, 2027, clear the diary, gals.
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  Speaker 4: Liz and I are taking Carolyn to Nickelback in Sydney.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, my God, Catherine, that's so keen.
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  Speaker 4: But now you've just admitted the dribblers have told you. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I was excited this week because Powderfinger are reforming.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to see how this, and they've
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  Speaker 4: just released their dates this morning, so I will need
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  Speaker 4: to see how this aligns and whether it all lines
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  Speaker 4: up and we can sort of do the Powderfinger Nickelback tour,
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  Speaker 4: but I suspect the Powderfinger boys would not be happy
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  Speaker 4: with us piggybacking the two publicly.
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  Speaker 3: It's quite the departure from one to other.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, isn't it? They're very different.
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  Speaker 2: Have I told you my Powderfinger story?
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  Speaker 3: I bet your listeners can trump it.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so Powderfinger played at my friend's 21st for a
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  Speaker 1: bottle of rum. This is in 1990, 1989 or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: This is when they were just doing Neil Young covers
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  Speaker 1: and we were at uni and because I'm a year
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  Speaker 1: older than them, obviously I was a year wiser than
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  Speaker 1: them and I went, look, this is great, but give
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  Speaker 1: it away, get a proper job like the rest of us. Also, Powderfinger,
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  Speaker 1: stupid name for a band.
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  Speaker 2: So there we go.
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  Speaker 1: And thus began my career as a music manager.
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  Speaker 3: The mogul, the music mogul just didn't happen for a
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  Speaker 3: whole range of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Liz can trump that, I think, to a degree.
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  Speaker 5: I think we told this story maybe. We were swimming
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  Speaker 5: in some random place. It was like Caloundra.
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  Speaker 3: Or somewhere, Liz?
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  Speaker 4: Somewhere on the Sunshine Coast.
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  Speaker 5: Somewhere in the Sunshine Coast, in the surf, out the back, just,
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  Speaker 5: you know, past the waves, just having a little relax.
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  Speaker 5: Liz goes under a wave, pops up, and then goes, oh, hey.
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  Speaker 5: And it's, what, was he.
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  Speaker 4: The lead singer? No, JC. No, Bernard's the lead singer. JC,
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  Speaker 4: I've got to, I can't remember what he plays.
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  Speaker 2: John Collins? I think he might, is he the bass? No,
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  Speaker 2: Ian Hogue's the bass guitarer. This is terrible.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's the bass guitarist.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have my Queensland credentials.
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  Speaker 4: Stripped from me. No, he's the bass guitarist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But what's worse is she didn't just recognise and go, oh, hey, JC.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, oh, Liz. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: Because that's what you do when you're in the water.
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  Speaker 2: You just pop up randomly.
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  Speaker 1: Is it him who has opened a music venue, like
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  Speaker 1: reopened Fortitude Valley in Brisbane as a live music venue?
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  Speaker 2: One of the Powderfinger boys did that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's him.
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  Speaker 2: And I just think, man, that's so good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's, I can't remember the name of it. It's
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  Speaker 4: a theatre in Brisbane.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, yes, he has. It's amazing. So, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm very excited about potentially seeing Powderfinger because I
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  Speaker 4: never saw them live when they were at their peak
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  Speaker 4: of their powers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, did you not?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon I've been 30 times, not just when they
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  Speaker 1: played at my friend's 21st for a bottle of Bundaberg rum,
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  Speaker 1: but like.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually paid concert. Have you seen them, Sid?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw them when they were in Sydney. So,
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  Speaker 1: they were here in about... 2012, maybe, or maybe it
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  Speaker 1: was slightly after that. But I remember the girl who
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  Speaker 1: I worked with in 2010 had a spare ticket and
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  Speaker 1: I ended up going with her. And it was great
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  Speaker 1: because we were directly in front of the stage, but
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  Speaker 1: at the back of the front section. And there was
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  Speaker 1: sort of a sound desk or something behind us. And
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  Speaker 1: we were right in front of that. So there was
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  Speaker 1: no one behind us, which is which is good. And
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  Speaker 1: then halfway through the show, she said, I reckon something's
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  Speaker 1: happening here. And then we turned around and they popped
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  Speaker 1: up behind us on a little stage right in the
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  Speaker 1: middle there.
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  Speaker 2: And so we were... We were front row without having
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  Speaker 2: to try anything.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's so cool.
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  Speaker 5: But you haven't seen them to tell them the conversation
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  Speaker 5: that you said about changing your name.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they'd remember me.
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  Speaker 3: That would be funny.
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  Speaker 1: So Ian Hogue was dating one of my good friends
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  Speaker 1: at the time. But, you know, like when you're at uni,
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  Speaker 1: you know all these kind of people a bit on
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  Speaker 1: the periphery and then you're not strong enough friends to
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  Speaker 1: keep seeing them. So I remember them obviously because– they
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  Speaker 1: didn't take my excellent career advice and they've stayed in
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  Speaker 1: the public eye. But I'd be very surprised if they
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  Speaker 1: remembered me. But they would remember playing Trish Armstrong's 21st.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if we run into them next time, we must.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's not beyond the realms of possibility because Powderfinger
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  Speaker 4: are actually netball fans. So I ran into them at
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  Speaker 4: a golf day and we must have just played, we've
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  Speaker 4: just played a match against New Zealand in, the weeks previously,
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  Speaker 4: and they were telling me a story that they were
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  Speaker 4: late onto stage because they were watching the end of
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  Speaker 4: the game. The game must have gone into overtime.
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  Speaker 2: Good work.
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  Speaker 4: So they are, they're Nettie fans. They're certified Nettie fans,
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  Speaker 4: which is why we love the Venn diagram when you
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  Speaker 4: have Powderfinger and Netball. It just crossed right there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and thank God.
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  Speaker 1: So we're six minutes in and we've spent maybe 30
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  Speaker 1: seconds talking about Nickelback and four or five times that
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  Speaker 1: amount talking about Powderfinger.
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel... I feel somewhat relieved.
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  Speaker 3: Don't give me the challenge. I can take us back
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  Speaker 3: to Nuku Bay.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, not a problem.
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  Speaker 3: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: So, Catherine, you could talk about having, you could talk
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  Speaker 1: about look at this photograph and then show us something
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  Speaker 1: about your amazing trip because you're not here with me
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  Speaker 1: this week, but you are dialing in from Japan. So
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  Speaker 1: we have a new broadcast country. We often track where
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  Speaker 1: we're listened to, but what we haven't done is tracked
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  Speaker 1: where we have recorded from around this great nation and internationally,
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  Speaker 1: but we're ticking them off.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that is true because where have you done? You've
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  Speaker 5: done the States. You've done the UK.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done France, Netherlands, Switzerland. I didn't do Italy.
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  Speaker 2: I've done Canada. Yeah, a number of countries. Have I
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  Speaker 2: done New Zealand?
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  Speaker 3: I should have done New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: That's the country I spend most time in, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Highly like it. But anyway, yes, we are in Japan.
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  Speaker 3: It is so good. I get why all the Aussies
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  Speaker 3: rave about it.
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  Speaker 4: It is amazing.
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  Speaker 5: And do you know what I've discovered? And the reason
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  Speaker 5: I think I really love it, every third or fourth
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  Speaker 5: shop is a food shop of some sort without fail.
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  Speaker 5: You can't struggle to find a drink.
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  Speaker 3: Or some food or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And good food too.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just like.
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  Speaker 1: You can go into a convenience store, get food and go, well,
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  Speaker 1: I would buy this in a restaurant at home.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've just had my pancakes from 7-Eleven. They come
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  Speaker 3: prepackaged and they have the margarine and the maple in
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  Speaker 3: them and then you just microwave them and it all
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  Speaker 3: just oozes out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: How so good.
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  Speaker 5: We've been into 7-Eleven maybe four or five times a
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  Speaker 5: day getting little bits and pieces, but.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, it's so good.
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  Speaker 5: I will come home the size of the house and
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  Speaker 5: probably have them pooed for a week, but that's beside
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  Speaker 5: the point.
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  Speaker 4: That's what holidays are for.
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  Speaker 5: No, but let me tell you, the other thing people
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  Speaker 5: rave about, and I can't believe that they talk about
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  Speaker 5: it as much as they do, how good the toilets are.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Have you heard this?
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  Speaker 5: Everyone raves about the fancy toilets in Japan. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 5: we get to our hotel room and we've got one
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  Speaker 5: of the fancy toilets. So it washes all the bits.
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  Speaker 5: It's got the drying bits, all the stuff. And I've
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  Speaker 5: never used one. And I said to Harper, before this
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: trip is up, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Going to have a crack at it. Pardon the pun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's going to have a crack in you, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, so the other day I was in there and
• 9:00
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay, today's the day it's happening.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, let me press the button. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you can just leave me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have a go at this.
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  Speaker 3: It's quite the experience.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember when we were touring, whenever anyone had
• 9:14
  Speaker 4: needles or anything like that, we'd take photos, I think.
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  Speaker 4: We probably need photos, photographic proof. Actually, no, we don't.
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  Speaker 2: Does it talk to you, Kath? Does it open up
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  Speaker 2: and sort of speak to you in Japanese? There's some
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  Speaker 2: of them that there's.
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  Speaker 3: Soft mood lighting.
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  Speaker 5: This one doesn't, but I believe a lot of them do,
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  Speaker 5: but just like the warm seat and then the different
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  Speaker 5: sprays and different strengths of the spray and all like
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  Speaker 5: it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not something you need at home though is it like
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it is something that it's like i've never
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  Speaker 1: sort of thought and i've spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: in japan i used to live there and it's like
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  Speaker 1: but i've never thought you know what i need in
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: my house is a ten thousand dollar automated toilet like
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: i don't know how much they cost but i would
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: assume it's quite a lot and then it's just something
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  Speaker 1: else to break i I love them but it's not
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  Speaker 1: something I've ever thought this would make my life significantly better.
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  Speaker 4: No, and the only reason I'd spend $ 10, 000 on a
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  Speaker 4: toilet is so that my son actually got everything in
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  Speaker 4: the toilet. Nishit.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Swindell.
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  Speaker 3: When were you here and where were you?
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  Speaker 1: So I did my degree in Japanese and then we
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: had graduated into the recession we had to have and
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: I lived in Japan in 90, I reckon it was 92.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: I lived there for a year and I lived in
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: a place called Nishinomiya between Osaka and Kobe and then
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: been back a bunch of times. Haven't been back since 2019.
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  Speaker 1: Last time we were there was in the Rugby World
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  Speaker 1: Cup and it was such a great place to come
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: and watch a big sporting event because the the Japanese
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: fans are so polite and so welcoming. And because of that,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: we ended up heading down to Fukuoka and a place
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  Speaker 1: called Oita down there.
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  Speaker 2: So a bit off the beaten track.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't off the beaten track, obviously, because it
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: was during World Cup and there were a lot of
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: fans there. But just places that you might not otherwise go, oh, well,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: let's go and go there.
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  Speaker 4: It was great. Love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's so good, isn't it? We're venturing into the
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: metro system today for the first time. Ooh.
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  Speaker 2: Piece of cake.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. Because we've got sushi making. We're doing
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  Speaker 3: a sushi making class at.
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  Speaker 2: The fish market.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: At the fish market. Oh, fantastic.
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: At the fish market. So it's going to be really fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's fantastic. Oh, can we have photos of that, please?
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  Speaker 3: It's been good fun. But it's an interesting trip when
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: you come with a 10-year-old.
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  Speaker 5: Girl because oh god they're expensive to run yeah far
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: out the shopping drags to all the dog cafes yeah
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  Speaker 5: they're great but they stink wee and the dogs are
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: so disinterested they just walk past you and like oh
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: don't touch me you know like it's it's kind of
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: a bit it's a bit weird but um it's it's
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: been good fun i've got another mate that's here at
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: the same time and he's like oh we're going to
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: the bar to watch the wallabies play tonight you want
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  Speaker 5: to meet us oh I would.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: You want to watch the first half of that game.
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  Speaker 1: You're happy to miss the second half of it, frankly.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there you go. So I'm glad I didn't go.
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  Speaker 3: We went to a cat.
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  Speaker 1: Cafe in Seoul and there's all these signs up on
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  Speaker 1: the wall like wanted posters of don't touch this cat.
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  Speaker 2: It's really angry. This one's been in a bad mood lately.
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  Speaker 4: That's all.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas I think with the dog cafes, it's more like,
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: the worst you could say about them is they're a
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: bit apathetic, right? Whereas then like what this one was,
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: watch out for these cats.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: They're aggressive.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, I wouldn't do that, but we did get some rules.
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  Speaker 5: So they've got little clothes or scarves on and the
• 12:46
  Speaker 5: rule was only feed the naked dogs because.
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  Speaker 3: The other ones are on a diet or they've got
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: some allergies or something.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: It's just bizarre.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm having the best fun.
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: So, Liz, Carolyn gave me a challenge to find the
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  Speaker 5: most random beauty treatment or beauty something I could find
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  Speaker 5: for her.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, we have got some crackers already.
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  Speaker 5: The condition, though, is that she has to try them
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  Speaker 5: live on the show next week.
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to permanently change any part of me,
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  Speaker 1: is it? Like it's not going to.
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  Speaker 3: Not permanently.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I love it.
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: Well, we found two and then I found another three
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  Speaker 5: after that and I just thought, oh, I have to
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: get these.
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  Speaker 3: It's so good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. It'll be good fun. A
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: challenge has taken place and we are still going.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: It's a shame you're not here today because tomorrow is
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: my wedding anniversary, my 20th wedding anniversary, so it would
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: be nice to have just something to sort of spice things.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Up a little bit. It's like, oh, my wife, I've
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: got a new wife who is eyebrow-less.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Catherine, could you marry the beauty treatment up with what's 20th?
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: So it's China or porcelain or the modern gift for.
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  Speaker 2: It is platinum.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, go with the platinum.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Platinum.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have to find something, a beauty treatment
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: to do with platinum to celebrate Helen's 20th year of marriage.
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: When you just said spice up the 20th year of marriage,
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: I nearly cried because one of them, which you'll understand
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  Speaker 5: next week, could potentially do that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm excited about this.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I should have an escape clause.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you about this. We have a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: dribbler who's going to do the no dribble tattoo on
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the week of the, yeah, yeah, Shelley, who I met
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: her at the very first no dribble live event that
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: we had here at Sydney before the roses test. And
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I just, You know, I try to talk to everyone,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: try to remember people's names, whatever. But for some reason,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I was sure she was Alison. So now anytime I
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: hear from her, she says, Shelley, you know me as Alison.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, gotcha. But she's going to get a
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: no dribble tattoo that we are paying for. She's even
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: offered to pay for it herself. But it's like, no, no,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: that was the deal. But I did make her have
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a compulsory seven day cooling off period.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: And she's still keen.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, so you don't like when you, you go Catherine.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I think we're probably going to say the same thing.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I was going to like talk about, you know, when
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: you do, this is not funny, but when, when we
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: were trying to have our second child and.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: My sister offered, this is taking us somewhere where we
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: might not be able to come back from, but my
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: sister offered to be an egg donor. Right. So, because
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I was, I mean, I'm all of two years older than,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: and she was like, no, no, I got heaps of
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: eggs when I did IVF. So she offered to be
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: an egg donor. And then because our first daughter actually
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: looks more like Kath than me and Kath's first daughter
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: looks more like me than her, we're like, oh, cool,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: we'll just cross over genes and we'll be fine. We're
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: alike enough. But we had to go through all this
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: counselling and we had to do counselling as a one
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: couple and then another couple and then all four of
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: us together. So, you know, Kat's partner and my partner.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: And so I was just sitting here thinking, like, it's
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: all very well to have the cooling off period, but
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: do we need some counselling to go along with this?
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Shelley Allison needs to go and have some counselling in
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: the lead up to this.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: But more importantly, where is she based? Do we get
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: to go and watch it happen?
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Well, she's coming to Sydney, so she's going to be
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: at our live event. So I think we try to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: work out something around that time because, We have.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: To be there, right?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: We have to be there. Yeah. Maybe we do it after.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: But someone suggested, you know that in the show logo
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: or the little tile when you look at us on
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Spotify and whatever, it's the three of us. Someone suggested,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: what about she just gets that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Over her whole back?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, I wouldn't let her.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I would allow the silhouette of. Oh.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I think she can choose whatever representation and size
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and location that she wants for this. And I would
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: be encouraging something smaller and more discreet than that. But,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you know, drippers have got great ideas. They feed them
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to us.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: And maybe something that like as you get older it
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: won't distort. My son told me this morning he saw
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: he was looking, I had it singlet on that sort
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: of rode up a bit and he said, what's your
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: tattoo on your back? I said, it's a gecko, mate.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Is that obvious? He said, it looks like a blob.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, thanks, good chance.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Kids are wonderful, aren't they?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I know, they're great.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: All right, we need to have a little break and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: come back and talk about some knitball. So, look, it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: not a huge netball period at the moment, but there
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: was a big announcement during the week which was quite exciting.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And given Catherine is in another country and this relates
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to something that is international and because, you know, it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the Netball World Cup, we should talk about it. Netball
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: World Cup 2031 going to?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Manchester.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it will be the fourth time England has
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: hosted a Netball World Cup, I believe, and that's exciting.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And it will be?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: A centenary of something. So a proper podcast would have
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: all of these notes in front of them and be
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: able to tell you. Here on No Dribble, we go,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I saw something on Instagram. What the hell was that?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But anyway, it's a centenary of something.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Of England netball. Of what? England netball.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: England netball. So that's exciting.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: That is very exciting. So how long do we, how
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: long have we got to save? What is that?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So I have done calculations here. So I've calculated it
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: based on, because we don't know exactly when it's going
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to be, but I've said, okay, maybe it'll be sometime
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in 2031. So to be conservative, I've said April, 2031.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's more likely to be in the England summer,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but Anyway, that's about 54 months. So if dribblers save
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: $ 100 a month, 23 bucks a week, put it in
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: one of those savings account where you get bonus interest
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: if you put it in and don't take it out
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: in a month. And you should have, that'll be $ 5, 500
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: or somewhere between $ 5, 500 and $ 7, 500, depending on when the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: year it goes and how much you want to save.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: If you want to round it up to $ 30 a week,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that's going to be enough to come with us to Manchester,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: which We have no details on. All we know is
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that we want to go to Manchester as no dribble.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So we've decided that's our... if we had a vision
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: board in this podcast, which we don't, we have a
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: WhatsApp group where we just put down ideas and then
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: someone a year later goes, who said something about that?
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And then we have to scroll back for ages. But
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: if we had a vision board, it would be going
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to Manchester in 2031 with a bunch of dribblers. So
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: get savings.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That is a cheat.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: $ 23 a week. That's achievable.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Well done.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: One and a half coffees at the way the coffees
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: are costing at the moment.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, I paid $ 7 for a coffee on the weekend. Yay, Sydney,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: way to go. It was just a normal size, normal milk.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It was large, sorry, but just normal milk, no.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Fancy milk or anything, just $ 7.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: 15.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: So get off the coffees for a second, CS.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Back to the nipple. So, look, I've just gone back
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: and checked the press release. Catherine, I might need your glasses.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I did see for the first time your new glasses.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Can you put them on and show us?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, no, these are even better.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: This is another Japan story, but these were a dollar
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: and they're prescriptions.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: They're pretty good, aren't they?
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: You look very smart with them.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I know. Well, wait till I say something, then it'll
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: bring me back to you, Leon.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: They're good, aren't they?
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: It works beautifully. Anyway. Okay. So, uh, So I'm going
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: to take my glasses off to read. The announcement comes
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: in England's netball centenary year. So this year is England
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: netball centenary year. What are we, 2026? And next year
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is Netball Australia's centenary year. So we're all about the
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: same time.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Netball Australia.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Yes, there'll be a little bit of celebrations happening around that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to put my phone on do not
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: disturb because my hairdresser just tried to call me.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, well.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I do believe you owe a drink, do you not?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. So many, so many.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: It's a slab for you. Yes, so again featuring 16
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: of the world's best netball nations at the Co-op Live
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: in Manchester. One of the world's leading next generation live
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: event arenas.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: One thing I did notice was missing from it is
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that that is four years away and I thought World
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Netball were telling us that it was going to be
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: two years away.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: So it's five years away because it's four years after
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the 27 World Cup next year. Oh, maths.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: We're not a maths podcast, let's face it. If you
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: want a maths podcast, listen to Adam Spencer. So, yes,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: there was talk that the World Cup was going to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: be every two years, but this announcement seems that For
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the short term, at least, it's every four years.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I don't like this every two years idea.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: How do you build momentum and excitement around something if
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: it's happening every two years?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, the four years is so good.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Well, four years also allows for a real change in
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the rankings too, that you can really see teams make
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: significant inroads in their performance in that time and really
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you know, investments in the game will start to show
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: up some years later on. So I just think every
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: two years it's sort of like, oh, we've just seen this.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be as excited about it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if I can afford $ 46 a
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: week to save to get.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: There in two years' time. No, that's true. Instead of
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: $ 23 in four years' time.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: That is true. That is true. And I will take off–
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I'm taking off my Netball Australia chair hat and putting
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: on my just, you know, Netball player hat. Oh, it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: very fetching, Elizabeth.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You're ready for race season with all these hats.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: It doesn't suit me. Look, the difference between a hat
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: and a fascinator is a fine line. But I would
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: prefer the four years as well. I just think it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: a bit special. And when– for a player– Playing sort
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: of three or four World Cups is a massive achievement.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Every two years. I don't know. I think a lot
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: of the other players, even current players I've spoken to,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: they prefer the four years as well.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: God, we'd have centurions falling out of our– Ahoy, hoy.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: We'd need Japanese toilets to clean up all the centurions
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: we'd have falling out of everywhere.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: A little spray and you're good to go.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, funny. So there you go. It's exciting though. Like Manchester, Catherine,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: you and I have played a Commonwealth Games in Manchester.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: It's a great city. Double all the time. Yeah, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: reckon it's a bit underrated as a city. There's great
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: and I can't wait to go back and not be
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: playing netball to be able to see the live music
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: scene and the bars and it's a great sort of,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: it's an awesome city and I can't wait to go
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: back and visit it and not.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Have to play. Are Oasis from Manchester?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Are they Joy Division are?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Manchester had a massive music scene back in the 80s.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Well, this again is just making us go global, isn't it,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: because we're ticking off all the boxes. Have we got
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: any more countries, Carolyn, since we've last chatted?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Well, Catherine, that's very interesting because we're just going to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: take a little break and then I do want to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: tell you all about that because we are represented in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: more countries. But I will say before we move on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Sorry, before you even say that, Oasis are from Manchester.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Good get, CS. Fantastic. Thanks to Google.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Champagne supernova. Although if it's from Australia, it's a sparkling
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: wine supernova, okay? We can't use the word champagne. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: was going to say I had a meeting with the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Netball World Cup 2027 people last week and there is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: news coming about ticket sales soon. And do you know
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: where you might be able to find out information about
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: that in coming weeks? Might it be from this podcast? So, yes,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's certainly news coming within the next couple of weeks
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and we will have a bit of that news here.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: But now we're going to have a little break and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we're going to come back and talk about something that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Catherine has seeded about where we are in the world.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Okey-dokey.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So, Catherine, thank you for the question. It is like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: being in Parliament where you ask me a question and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: then I get an opportunity to answer it. But there
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: has been growth. So we're very clear on our ambition
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: for world domination of this podcast. Part of that means
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: we want to cover the map with people listening to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Since last time we reported on this, there
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: have been seven new countries where.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: People have been listening.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: To this nonsense, which I think is wonderful. And I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: think either dribblers are having some amazing holidays or dribblers
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: are spreading the word either way, or someone's just stumbled
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: across it in these countries and gone, I don't understand
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: what's going on here, but everyone's very welcome. But our
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: new countries are Algeria. Now this one, this.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Next one, Gibraltar. I feel like we should have been
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: in Gibraltar at least a year ago. Yeah.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like when Gordie was over there doing her
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: great work with the Youth Netball World Cup last year,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that perhaps the good peeps of Gibraltar should have been
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: attuned to us then. But Algeria, Gibraltar, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan. Mauritius,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: now that sounds like a great holiday, doesn't it? New Caledonia,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that one also surprises me. I would have thought that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: one we might have had earlier.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And Serbia.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So welcome to our listeners from our new seven countries.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: But United States.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Could do better. Okay, so I do want to, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: have had a request.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Is that just like United States Netball listeners or just
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: in general? General.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: This is not a commentary about politics in this podcast.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Feel free to ring me if you'd like to hear
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: my very many and strong opinions about other things in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the United States. I'm talking about US Netball only. And hello,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Denver Blizzards.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: We see you.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to us. But we need a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: job from you, Denver Blizzards. So actually, this is interesting.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I've had this written down for several weeks. You know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: there's a big statue outside the Denver International Airport of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a giant blue horse and it's got red eyes and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: they call it Blucifer.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's cool.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: And when it was sort of a bit sad, but
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: when it was installed, part of it fell and killed
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the sculptor. So it's quite notorious, this devil-like statue. But anyway,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Denver Blizzards and Texas Blue Bonnets and all of the
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: other US netball fans who we know are out there
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and who will be seeing Catherine soon.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: We've just, we've flatlined in the US.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We've still got states to tick off. We haven't got
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a new state in over a month. We still need Arkansas, Iowa, M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-I, Montana,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia. So Texas Blue Bonnets,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Denver Blizzards, all of Nepal, USA peeps. Can you ring
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: like you? Guys, you go to college interstate, you know
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: people from all over the country. We know, we've watched 90210.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: We know everything about the US education system.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Ring your friends.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Tell them to listen to this. Help us tick it off.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Let's spread the word, but also just.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: You know, colour in that map.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And when I get over there, I'll make sure
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: You can shame some people into it. Do you know
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: anything about what's going on in Vegas yet?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Not too much.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I will have those conversations in the coming weeks about
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: what it looks like, but I'll be doing some commentary
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: and I thought I'd put a shout out to clubs
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: that are going to play or teams that are going
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: to play if we've got any people that want to
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: do some comms.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Which is so fun. I might be able to work
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: with them. That'd be cool.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So they've got, look, not everyone here is going to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: be a household name, but they are a household name
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: in that club and they're giving the wing defence a microphone.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Giving your reserve wing defence a microphone, that's what's going
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on there.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Well, this is a good chat. Who is the best
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: position to give a microphone to? I feel like it's
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: not Liz is going to say. It's not a goal shooter.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Let us talk about the holder.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Although the goal shooter and the goalkeeper have the most
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: time to watch what else is happening.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: We do.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: This is true. This is true.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But I feel like in terms of personality, it's probably
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: in midcourt that's going to be a bit more giving,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: you know, a bit.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: More encouraging of the side.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They might be good. Interesting. Interesting.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Interesting because the two commentators who are on this call
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: or on this podcast, one's a goal shooter and one's
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: a goalkeeper. So what does that tell you?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Do you know, I'm doing a regular segment on ABC
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: 702 at the moment and James O'Loughlin's show and we do,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: it's Carolyn's Time Machine and we pick a year and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: we go back to that year and we talk about
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: music and we talk about, you know, big world events
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and the like and people will ring in and say
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: what they were up to. And this week we're doing 1982. Oh,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: great year. And the reason we're doing that is because
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: last time we did 1999 and so we looked at
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the year that Prince wrote that song, Tonight We're Going
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  Speaker 1: to Party Like It's 1999, and that was in 1982.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we'll be doing this week on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: And it was an interesting, it was my first year
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  Speaker 1: of high school. I turned 13 that year and it's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting to think about it because my daughter is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: 13 now and sort of, To really try to go
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  Speaker 1: back to that time, what you were like at the
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  Speaker 1: age that you're that your child is now.
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  Speaker 2: It's quite an interesting exercise.
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  Speaker 3: What else did you remember?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Brisbane Commonwealth Games and Matilda, the winking Matilda.
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  Speaker 2: E.T. came out that year and Thriller.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 5: I watched the Michael movie on the way over on
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: the plane and went through all that Thriller video clip
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  Speaker 5: and all.
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  Speaker 3: That sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I understand they gloss over some of the later stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they do. Well, it ends before that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it ended before that too.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's some interesting– one of the interesting things was,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and I'd forgotten about this, is the Tylenol, which is a–
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like is it paracetamol or ibuprofen?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a very main– like it's our Panadol, day-to-day stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But there were deaths from a Tylenol poisoning. So someone
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: deliberately poisoned the product. which changed the way medicine is
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  Speaker 1: delivered around the world now. So that's where we got
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the blister packs from, but they had been tampered with.
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  Speaker 1: But isn't that amazing to think that 45 years later,
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  Speaker 1: that Tylenol's name... is still somewhat associated with that malicious
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  Speaker 1: act that had nothing to do with them but obviously
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  Speaker 1: lots of– remember it was like we had the– someone
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  Speaker 1: was putting pins in strawberries in Australia? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think about that all the time I get a
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  Speaker 5: strawberry still.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Where were you in 1982, Catherine?
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  Speaker 5: I was in kindergarten. The memories are not thick and fast.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it weird the stuff you do remember, though? I
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: remember at school just before Christmas and we were doing
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  Speaker 5: Santa faces, I think, probably on a paper plate.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. And we had like beards.
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  Speaker 5: That were all strips of paper, you know, cut, and
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  Speaker 5: you had to curl it around your pencil to make
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  Speaker 5: the beard curly.
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  Speaker 3: Oh. That's what I remember. Yeah. Isn't that bizarre?
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  Speaker 4: Because it's Christmas and you love Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also so exciting, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Like what are the big highlights in your life at
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  Speaker 1: that age, your birthday and Christmas?
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  Speaker 3: What's the thing that stuck out to me? That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that's where my love of Christmas came from.
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth, how old were you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was nine. Actually, 1982 was a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a formative year. I loved it this morning, Carolyn, when
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you sort of asked us what we were doing. 1982,
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  Speaker 4: I spent most of the year. This is just perfect
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  Speaker 4: for this podcast. I spent most of the year in
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  Speaker 4: a caravan.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to Nickelback.
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  Speaker 4: No, I spent most of the year in a caravan.
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  Speaker 4: So let me bring caravan back into no drivel. So
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  Speaker 4: mum and dad had decided that we were going to
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  Speaker 4: go around Australia and they saved up and they bought
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: you know, secondhand Land Cruiser and we had this caravan
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  Speaker 4: and we drove around Australia. And when we left, we
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: left almost 40 years to the day with our kids
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  Speaker 4: on our trip around Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Just by coincidence that that was the window of opportunity?
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  Speaker 2: Like you weren't looking to go?
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  Speaker 4: No. Well, I never had this great thing in my
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: mind that we were going to leave 40 years, like
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: I was going to do it every 40 years. But-
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  Speaker 4: it just happened and 2022 sort of worked for us.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I can't believe it's almost like
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  Speaker 4: almost to the day. It was like within a month of,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: of leaving.
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  Speaker 5: Was a big part of that to also knowing your
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: kids are of a similar age and how beneficial it
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: was for you then?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah. Um, and so I was in year four
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  Speaker 4: and when we went, Evelyn was in year five and
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Austin was in kindergarten. So like, I'd love to do
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: it again with him mainly because he'd like to have
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: a year off school now, but, I think it was
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: just a massive coincidence. And it just worked for us
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: because it was the end of my time at nine
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  Speaker 4: with the Nepal rights. So we just decided to do it.
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  Speaker 4: But the funny thing was that when we went, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: went and got all these old photos of our caravan
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and car from 1982 at some really iconic sites. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: then I took photos of our caravan and car. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: the thing that struck me was, Like our caravan is
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: like a state-of-the-art off-road van, massive wheels, enormous suspension. It's
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: got like a toilet and a shower and a television
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  Speaker 4: and a washing machine in it. And then our caravan
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  Speaker 4: from 1982 was like a tin can with mower wheels,
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  Speaker 4: like the wheels were tiny. And back then the roads
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  Speaker 4: were so much worse.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: We would drive on roads when we were away and
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  Speaker 4: I'd say to my kids, oh, my God, this is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: When we drove around, there's this one road between– Port
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  Speaker 4: Headland and Broome that we drove on. And I remember
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: as a kid we drove for a whole day and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: it was congregations and we did not pass a car
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  Speaker 4: for seven hours.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Not a single car. Whereas now it's a highway. You
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: just drive along. Anyway, I've said it so often.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember breaking down or having issues with the caravan.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: When you were kids? I was about to say, no
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: mobile phones, no cell phones.
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  Speaker 4: So if you break down. And that road sticks out
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  Speaker 4: to me because our chassis or our axle on the
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: caravan broke on that road. So, yeah, no mobiles, no nothing.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember it broke and it's only a single
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: axle thing, right? So now everything's double axle minimum. So
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: it was only a single axle and it broke and
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  Speaker 4: Dad had to drive. He took my sister and he
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: drove back into Broome to get something to fix it.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, aren't you glad Wolf Creek wasn't out yet?
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  Speaker 4: I know, right? I remember sitting with my mum. On
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  Speaker 4: the side of the road, no air conditioning, no mobile phones,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: no television. I mean, but I remember it being great.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I just read my book all day and no one
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: annoyed me. It was fantastic. And then dad came back
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  Speaker 4: that night and fixed it and we stayed by the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: side of the road. And then the other place we
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: broke down, the car broke down really early on in
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: the trip, but it broke down at Noosa. So I
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: remember my dad being so depressed. Like we were stuck
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: for three weeks because back in those days you couldn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: get parts fast from around the world. And it was
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: something major that went wrong with the car. And my
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: sister and I were a rat. We were like, yay.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Because back in those days, the caravan park at Noosa
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: was at the end of Hastings Street, which is now
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: the reserve. It was fantastic. And Hastings Street was nowhere
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: near as cosmopolitan and vibrant as it is today. But
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  Speaker 4: there were some great cafes and stuff like that. So
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  Speaker 4: we thought it was fantastic. But my overwhelming memory, you
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  Speaker 4: know when you're little, you think things are massive. And
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: when you're big, you go back and they're not. So
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  Speaker 4: we used to have to every week walk from Hastings
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Street over the hill into Noosa Junction to go to
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  Speaker 4: the supermarket. And then we'd carry our groceries back, stop
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: at the pub for a cow to meal on the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: top of the hill and then come down. And when
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I was a kid. It was, particularly when you were
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: carrying groceries, it was Mount Everest.
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  Speaker 2: Torture.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But when I go back now and we see
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: that hill, I'm like, oh, my God, it's a five-minute walk.
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  Speaker 4: It's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It's an incline. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's so cool. So, yeah, 1982 was a massive year
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: for our family and I missed most of year four.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. See, it didn't have an impact, did it?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Because there wouldn't have been air con in the car either.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember when we first got air cons
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  Speaker 1: in the cars, you know, as a kind of standard thing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Remember the metal seatbelts that would burn you?
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  Speaker 1: But we were– I don't know when seatbelts became compulsory,
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  Speaker 1: but it was not long before that. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you'd ride in the front seat of a– you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the big bench seats we had the old Holden, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it's like– Three of us across there, no seatbelts and things.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe just lying down.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: No seatbelts.
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  Speaker 4: How did anyone survive? How did anyone survive?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Fortunately, fewer cars on the road.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: But I do think that the road toll was significantly higher,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't it?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I think it was.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Hasn't the road toll.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Been sort of coming down in spite of the fact
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that we have more and more people on the roads?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether that's correct about.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: The road toll.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: No, that is correct.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: But airbags and seatbelts.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great story. Yeah, there we go, 1982,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: worth remembering. Anyway, that is all we have time for.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: We do have our lovely dribbler Rhonda is on Tipping
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Point on the 20th of October. So let's all tune
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: in and watch that because, of course, that's one of
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the shows that Catherine has said that she would like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: to go on at some stage. I can't wait. But, yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: let's all tune in and watch Rhonda. No idea what
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: happens in this, and it is. an edge of the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: seat show. So let's watch that. But Catherine, you should
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: get out and enjoy the rest of your holiday.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: We will. Exciting. We're off to that today.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: We've got Team Labs tomorrow, which is apparently the big
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: white mirror extravaganza.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Who knows what people rave about it. And then we're
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: going to eventually have.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: To make our way home with our tails between our
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: legs and not a dollar to my name anymore.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, money's overrated.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, we're very, very, very fortunate to be here.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: But yes, I'm coming home and I'm not leaving the
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: house again for quite some time.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And look, I would say on the back of that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: conversation that we've just had, like, You know, my son
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: starts his HSC tomorrow. My daughter is now in high school.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: It's like we blinked and those years when they are,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: when you can pull them out of school and do
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: things like that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: It was sort of like, oh, it's too late. We've
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: missed that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: It's gone.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Missed that window. And I just, I think, I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: it's great. You gotta, you gotta go hard.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And like, I know not everyone's circumstances mean that they
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: can be traveling internationally and things, but You know, whatever
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: choices you do have to exercise with your time with
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: your kids, I think it's great that you do it.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: So I hope you enjoy it. But I miss you, Catherine.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I miss you too, but I'll see you on Monday.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I've only got my friend here to keep me company.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, but she looks, well, look, it's a doppelganger.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Hey, we will see you next week, though, with all
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: of the beauty tricks. One of them I'm not entirely
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: sure how it works.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Or if it's legal.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: That's the best.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I can try to practice my long forgotten Japanese
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and we'll see how we go.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: And I can't guarantee it won't break in your mouth,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: but we'll see what happens.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. There are so many lines.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, that's all we've got time for today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Carolyn Swindell. Bye.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I'm Kat Cox. Sayonara.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Sayonara.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I'm Liz Ellis. See ya.