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Come Again, Mimi (S3 E1, "Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh that's just you more. I
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  Speaker 1: am all in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast, I
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  Speaker 1: Hurt Radio one to Lear Productions, we are back for
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  Speaker 1: season three premiere. Those lazy, hazy, crazy days. Um Riley,
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  Speaker 1: take it away with your synopsis. So this air day
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  Speaker 1: September two, it's the season three premiere, returns from Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. While Jess is still on her mind and
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  Speaker 1: finally makes a decision about Dean, Lorel breaks the news
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  Speaker 1: to her parents that her and Christopher didn't work out
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  Speaker 1: and finds comfort in talking to Luke. Mm hmm okay, uh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean right from the start, who noticed this? EXI
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  Speaker 1: Pinkney down. It was good. She looked good. And here
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  Speaker 1: I've got a picture of her in that dress with
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  Speaker 1: with Taylor in the wheelchair and she's got a white
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  Speaker 1: bucket hat on. She looks good. She looks really good.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of was the real life Taylor actually injured? Does
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  Speaker 1: anybody know? Because why was he in the wheelchair? Was
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  Speaker 1: it part of the actual storyline or was he And
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  Speaker 1: I think that he was probably hurt. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Too friends trying to access my memory banks
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  Speaker 1: from twenty two years ago. I didn't really didn't, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: booting up. I was having problems connecting with my own brain.
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  Speaker 1: We's just a frequent occurrence. Um, but anyway, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: So I have to ask you something, yes, ma'am, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is like really important. Your first kiss when Laura
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  Speaker 1: Lie was in a dream as it should be as
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  Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, but that was a little bit interesting
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  Speaker 1: because their actual first kiss we know comes later, but
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  Speaker 1: you did kiss as a fan. I was. I was thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: I was jumping up and down. I look, like I
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  Speaker 1: said before, I really love them together. I think they
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  Speaker 1: I think that she is so um, how can I
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  Speaker 1: describe Laurelize. She's there's a side of her that I
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  Speaker 1: luke balance is off very well, and I think all sides.
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  Speaker 1: But she's a tough girl. She's tough, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. She's got that Emily Steele in her right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's where she gets it, and she needs
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  Speaker 1: somebody to push back on her. And she's not going
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  Speaker 1: to respect the guy. Um who doesn't who doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: the and and look, if I don't have the background
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  Speaker 1: of the educational credentials that her bloodline is used to,
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  Speaker 1: her DNA is used to accustomed to then at least
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  Speaker 1: have a have a spine and push back, and you know, Luke,
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  Speaker 1: is that right? So it works for me. It's just
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, they just look really good together. I
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  Speaker 1: think we I thought we looked really we look really
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  Speaker 1: good together, and and we act well together, and it
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  Speaker 1: just works and it's easy and we you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think the fact that he's not going all neodly on
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  Speaker 1: her all the time, and you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody does. They're all flipping out over and I'm
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  Speaker 1: the guy that's like, listen, you know, you're a pain
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  Speaker 1: in my ass. Love you buy, you know, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's refreshing. And so I really love that scene.
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  Speaker 1: It's my one of my favorite scenes. I'm surprising that
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  Speaker 1: like the episode because it's still bookended by two epic
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  Speaker 1: scenes with them. I don't know, what did you guys
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  Speaker 1: think of the episode? Tell me and then I'll come
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  Speaker 1: in and look like a horse's ask go ahead, tell
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  Speaker 1: me how great it was. I definitely squealed when I
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  Speaker 1: when I saw you and Laura, I guess I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, that's so cute. I was really excited
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  Speaker 1: about that, and I agree with Amy the end, the
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  Speaker 1: ending scene too. At the diner, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Buckle up, Yeah, Riley, what do you
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  Speaker 1: what do you think of this? I complete on all
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  Speaker 1: and then but the way you like kissed and rubbed
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  Speaker 1: her belly twins, just like you got all the tingly
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  Speaker 1: fields that you like, we I guess, had been feeling
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  Speaker 1: with Christopher. We finally got to feel it with Luke.
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  Speaker 1: But wasn't it so much more powerful with Look? It
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  Speaker 1: was it was like and I think that's where we
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  Speaker 1: see like now the fans were talking about like hello,
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  Speaker 1: it's Luke and more Lie, like we got to feel
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  Speaker 1: that too finally. Yeah, it just seemed I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: there was It's so funny. I have like fifty favorite lines.
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  Speaker 1: You don't you don't. I don't mean to interrupt you. You
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  Speaker 1: You explained why. You know. There's a lot of good lines.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, there's and we'll get to those. There's there's
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  Speaker 1: tons of good line. Um god, I mean, let's you
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  Speaker 1: want to go through it in order? You want to
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  Speaker 1: jump around? What do you what do you want? And
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, so the next moment is lore Lie. She
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  Speaker 1: has the dream, she falls out of bed and then
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  Speaker 1: she wakes up Rory. So then we get to see
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  Speaker 1: Rory in d c uh. I thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: pretty funny scene. Um. I think it was of course
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  Speaker 1: she's going to call she's going to call her daughter,
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  Speaker 1: and of course we're going to get you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Paris Geller hysterical. Ah I did. I did not have
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  Speaker 1: sex with that woman. Really funny. I also love the
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  Speaker 1: dialogue between Rory lor life. Was he naked? Good? And
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  Speaker 1: then there was a genius Bill maer line which really
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  Speaker 1: lit in there. But it was like politically correct. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: anyone like yeah, but but but yeah, I remember that
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  Speaker 1: well we remember what he said, right, Yes, I think
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  Speaker 1: that was a little beyond politically incorrect. It was just
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  Speaker 1: uh it was but it was such a it was
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  Speaker 1: a great like pop culture. Sure something worked for and
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  Speaker 1: it there an't been enough time, just enough time that
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  Speaker 1: that was not inappropriate that they Yeah, I looked. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was a great scene. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: really funny. It was heartwarming, you know, they missed each other.
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  Speaker 1: Rory was getting on with her little career and building
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  Speaker 1: a resume, and Paris was providing some great humor talking
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  Speaker 1: in her sleep. You know, that was all good stuff,
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  Speaker 1: all really good stuff. It also gave us, It was
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  Speaker 1: really brilliant. It gave us a very nice cap of
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  Speaker 1: where we left off without having to put it in
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  Speaker 1: our face. Because you you get a mention of Christopher,
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  Speaker 1: you get a mention of Dean. You see the letters,
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  Speaker 1: and then you see that just the letters, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of letters from she, like one a day. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: and then you see the Jess. She she puts those
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  Speaker 1: away and it starts thinking what she's gonna write to Jess?
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  Speaker 1: But I thought, you know that, what a way to
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  Speaker 1: open up. Yes, a great opening for season three because
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  Speaker 1: it sets up Luke and Laurel and it sets up
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  Speaker 1: what may come, and it sets up for Rory what
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  Speaker 1: may come, you know her her Luke. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: that that that that Gilmore blood mixing with the Danes blood.
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  Speaker 1: Will it happen? Will it happened? On multiple levels here?
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  Speaker 1: So so pretty cool, pretty cool set up for sure. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so what do we have next? What came up next?
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  Speaker 1: So then we go to see So then Laurel is
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  Speaker 1: having breakfast at Suies, which I like that they referenced
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  Speaker 1: she's there every day. I like that scene. I like
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  Speaker 1: Jackson in that scene. I thought it was funny. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was the right tone. Um. And it just
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  Speaker 1: I like how it started. I really was involved in it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand what what Suki thought was wrong
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  Speaker 1: with the house. She wanted to freshen it up, she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to change it a little bit. There was some
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  Speaker 1: some some ancillary dialogue between those two, and then Jackson
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  Speaker 1: came funny though we're not right exactly. Uh, all good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, beautifully acted, beautifully shot, The writing was great.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was great. Firing on use so far the episode
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  Speaker 1: is firing on all cylinders. Okay, agree, Yeah, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was hilarious when Jackson acknowledges if you come here
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  Speaker 1: every day, you're gonna have to really great her as
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  Speaker 1: a part of their cupboard. And I never liked Jackson more.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was He did very very well as
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  Speaker 1: a Uh they're married at this point, right, yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as a husband. Yeah. Where we left, So what's the
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  Speaker 1: what's what comes next? Okay? So then next we see
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  Speaker 1: the bucket at and we realized Taylor injured, and we
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  Speaker 1: learn about the new festival. I think it was the
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  Speaker 1: maest festival and that looked quite all great. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the acting was superb. I think Michael Winters just delivered
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  Speaker 1: as he always does. And Lauren looked great. She looked
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  Speaker 1: great in the dress, she looked great in the hat.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was flowing outdoors, sunny festival coming. Loved it all.
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  Speaker 1: Love the shot at the end when Luke is taken
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  Speaker 1: in order from um a girl, a young girl and
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  Speaker 1: Laura I just stairs and she's not going to go
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  Speaker 1: in yet. She doesn't she doesn't feel like she can
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  Speaker 1: go into the diner yet. So still the episode is
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  Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders. Okay, So now Danielle, we're getting
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  Speaker 1: to your moment. So we see Senator Barbara Boxer, which
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was, and Paris is just pelting her
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  Speaker 1: with questions and right, I I this is when I
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  Speaker 1: started to get a headache. Yeah. It was just like
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  Speaker 1: somebody turned her off. Find her off switch. It was
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  Speaker 1: like Jesus cacaphonists. Funny okay, but so overbearing and over
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  Speaker 1: the top. Um yeah, and I look, I thought the
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  Speaker 1: whole bit was funny. I get it right, you throw
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  Speaker 1: that in and and and you know, there's there's Paris
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  Speaker 1: going off and you know, being her obnoxious self. And
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  Speaker 1: yes it was funny, it was entertaining and all that,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, it was so much of it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was just a little for me. It
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  Speaker 1: just it was a little to to extend it. It
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  Speaker 1: was like we could have done a third of that
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  Speaker 1: and we get the point. It's just so. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the spread of food was unbelievable. I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: is happening? And Danielle, what did you think of the
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  Speaker 1: Harris gets asked out and doesn't even know? I love it,
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  Speaker 1: and and that's one of my favorite lines is part
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  Speaker 1: of that seems so I'll save it for a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later. But I was literally crying when she was like, Rory,
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  Speaker 1: you have to go to the into the closet, like
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  Speaker 1: you have to, Like I can't, I can't compete with you.
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  Speaker 1: You're going you can't go out of order? All right,
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  Speaker 1: take the hat off and slap yourself in the head.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know how you say his last name,
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Doug Ose, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he came out the bathroom and he too took a
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  Speaker 1: You turn real fast, meself, Okay, so this is this
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  Speaker 1: is what I mean by shrill. Okay, she just it
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  Speaker 1: was like even when she was making the sandwich, and
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  Speaker 1: even when she didn't realize and Rory is explaining to
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  Speaker 1: her that she'd been asked out on a date, she
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  Speaker 1: still maintained the same sort of angry red tone. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this aggressive, kind of over the top angry tone. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I wanted to see different colors. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see something else beside like this sort of I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: she has one dimensional yeah, and it gave me a headache,
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  Speaker 1: and I wanted to come on vary at something, you know,
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  Speaker 1: give me something else here, either cut it short or
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  Speaker 1: give me something else. That's just how it came off
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  Speaker 1: to Congressman in the background. I mean, that was so
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  Speaker 1: brilliant because obviously he's not an actor. They have to
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  Speaker 1: direct him. Okay, come out and then you're gonna see her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well this is this is also what happens when you
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  Speaker 1: don't have professionals. Even though that was Barbara Boxer and
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  Speaker 1: Doug oys Um, you know, it really pulls the scene down.
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  Speaker 1: You need, yeah, you need professionals, and it's cool to
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  Speaker 1: have the Norman Mailer's and the Barber Boxers and the
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  Speaker 1: Matele and all brights, and you sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you for give them for their lack of skills, right, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. That is intriguing. Takes you out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because it's so real and you're supposed to buy that
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  Speaker 1: they don't have any skills as actors and their timings off,
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  Speaker 1: I thought Barbara Boxer did a passable job. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: they both did. That's interesting. Okay, So that is something
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  Speaker 1: very interesting that I'm curious what people watching things if
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  Speaker 1: they have that experience too. For me, I just thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's so cool, because it's so But if you have
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  Speaker 1: a real actress in there, with real comedic timing and
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  Speaker 1: real skills, they'll make that three times as funny. Same
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  Speaker 1: with the Dougos thing, they'll make that much more, much
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  Speaker 1: funnier scene. I am not going to argue with you,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they did great. But but I can't
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  Speaker 1: argue with the obviously not professionals, so I'm probably nitpicking here.
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  Speaker 1: And let's but but that's the thing. I do you
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  Speaker 1: like the novelty of it? Is it worth sacrificing maybe
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  Speaker 1: the little bit of skill? Yeah, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I was so sold on this on the it didn't
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  Speaker 1: measure up to the prior scenes. I just thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can tolerate this one. I can take up an aspirin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can feel better, fair, fair, Alright. So the next
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  Speaker 1: cows don't wrinkle Kirk with his hey there, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: make me spit, Cols don't wrinkle, and Kirk is now
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  Speaker 1: in the opening credit. Oh good good, Um. This is
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  Speaker 1: when I first laughed out loud because Michelle was so
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  Speaker 1: pleased that he was going to be able to mock
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  Speaker 1: this boy. And no, please continue, No, we want to
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  Speaker 1: hear all about it. It's like it's like his reactions,
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  Speaker 1: his the pleasure that he was going to drive from
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  Speaker 1: this kid. This Kirk just made us. Kirk's dialogue sound
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  Speaker 1: even more absurd. So, um, beautiful acting job by Niche.
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  Speaker 1: Not beautiful acting job. Really, that's how you're a great
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  Speaker 1: scene partner. You you just do your job and you
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  Speaker 1: let Kirk shine. And yeah, man, I tell you, I
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  Speaker 1: really loved it, really loved that scene. Very funny, very
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  Speaker 1: very clever writing, and you know, beautifully acted. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: so far you just didn't care for one scene. Correct. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So then Emily is on the phone before she's wearing
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  Speaker 1: the beautiful majecta, and she says, what day is it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: Thursday the third, because they were at Martha's vineyard. They
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  Speaker 1: were at Martha's vineyard and we kind of have that
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  Speaker 1: back and forth used you're gonna call us and you
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  Speaker 1: did go us? And when's Roy coming home? I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was a little strange for me. See, that was
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: another scene where I was just like, what what is
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  Speaker 1: what is Emily complaining about? Now? What? What? What is
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  Speaker 1: going on? I mean, usually I'm with her, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: but on this it's like, well, she's calling up Laurela
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  Speaker 1: I just to you know, to give her crap for
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  Speaker 1: not calling when they get home and it's eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. She expected a phone call from Laurela
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  Speaker 1: because they got home from where were they They were
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  Speaker 1: in Hyaennas their high sport for Martha's venue. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: since one since one is Emily so needy from that
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  Speaker 1: for a call from when they get I mean, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what's they ask here? What I don't I didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming good manners whatever, but what I'm assuming the
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  Speaker 1: point of that moment was for us to learn that
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  Speaker 1: she has not told her parents about Christopher. So it
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  Speaker 1: was just a vehicle. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't It wasn't Again, I'm going to use the word shrill.
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  Speaker 1: I thought. I thought the maybe the dialogue was a
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  Speaker 1: little too shrill for me for my taste. Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean as a device to get into the Christopher stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Just I don't know, given your daughter, I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: came off like a wing nut. I mean, what what
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  Speaker 1: is it like? That's not Emily to be so needy
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  Speaker 1: of Laurelized attention. So it was it was just kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird. So obviously Paris is waiting to get picked
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  Speaker 1: up from her date, and the dialogue between her and
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  Speaker 1: Rory is my favorite thing of the whole entire episode. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I about died when she asked Rory to go into
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  Speaker 1: the closet like so good, and then the guy shows
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  Speaker 1: up and literally he says whatever, like I'm taking you here,
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  Speaker 1: I got a reservation and she goes, you're perfect, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, go for years, go, do kids
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  Speaker 1: know what this gat is? And I always thought it
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  Speaker 1: was well, Riley didn't know. I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that is either. Of course I know, of
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  Speaker 1: course I know, because I'm from before the internet, modern yelp.
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  Speaker 1: It's a restaurant guide. Yes it's not. It's the not
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  Speaker 1: modern yelp help of the two thousands. And he used
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  Speaker 1: to like look in the I thought it was zagging,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess it's and it would give you reviews
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  Speaker 1: of restaurants. Yeah. I thought that scene was fine. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting that Paris looks down on her Princeton. Man, she'll
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  Speaker 1: overlook that. Remember she said that early. I mean, for
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  Speaker 1: God's sake, we're talking about Princeton University. It's one of them.
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  Speaker 1: But she's a Harvard gul. But it's Princeton has been
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  Speaker 1: ranked over Harvard in national rankings multiple years. Don't they
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  Speaker 1: like neck and neck? They used to be. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to brag my schools up there? What's your what's
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  Speaker 1: your school? Berkeley? Look at you? Fancy? I look? Can
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: we take these halts? Yeah? Like I look. I love
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  Speaker 1: the line when she's on the phone with Dean stop
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  Speaker 1: being cute um and and Rory helping her and telling
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  Speaker 1: her to wear her hair down and clambing her down
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  Speaker 1: they they're really developing a friendship. Parents looked gorgeous. Parents,
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  Speaker 1: parents look really good. Yeah, she cleans up, she cleans
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  Speaker 1: up very well. Um yeah again. You know, I just
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  Speaker 1: thought she came off like an insane person at the
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  Speaker 1: political mixer in Washington. I think, yeah, I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was just like it was just too much. And then
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you know, she was still coming. She's so intense. It
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: gives me a headache, what can I tell you? And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Rory standing there with her smile and you know, sort
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of having to absorb all that energy coming. I don't know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: she doesn't you know, it's like, how can you? It's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like how do you? How are your friends with that?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: That's that's like being friends with a with a hand grenade,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I don't know. Well, okay,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna go to Kim's antiques and we've got
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Suki and Lorelai shopping to man lay up the home.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So that was a funny little scene. What do you think?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I I you you guys talk about that scene? Well,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you know it could you could go with your shrill again.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It was a little maybe it wasn't the best in
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the in the episode. You know, I think that's I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: think that's the quality of some of these scenes which
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: made me tune out, which is why I don't. You know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: usually these shows and these scenes really impact me, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I remember, you know a lot of details about them.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: That scene, it's like, God, we are we are we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: shrill again? And then I'm just gonna not not listen
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to it. Okay, I think you're having a fair criticis them.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I love the Red Top, but I didn't love the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: scene particularly as much as I love others. And I'm
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: not this this sort of c storyline of Suki needing
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to redo the decre is so unnecessary. It was like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: what a married people fight about, Oh the house, let's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: do a storyline on that. I would agree. Yeah, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: didn't hook me in, and I think that's why I
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: didn't engage it. Okay, So now we're at the airport
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and I have I'll let you guys talk about it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But I do have two criticisms of the airport scene.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But you guys again, so this is Yeah, it was
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: just how long were they separated the whole summer? Yeah?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I guess it was h Well, Okay, so yeah, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: think you would be excited to see your daughter and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: your daughter be excited to see you after an entire summer. Sure,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: um yeah, falling down and then sitting down on the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: floor of the thing and continuing their conversation. What didn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: they share some food too? Weren't they dug down there?
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: That's where I was like, what are you guys doing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: on the floor at the airport eating? Did somebody start eating?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Did Lorela pull out a muffin or something start chumping?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know the way I agree you were on
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the airport floor, on the floor. So here's my criticism
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: now that I am a m what shall I say,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: expert background actor number one, If you were in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: airport reading your book and two people fell, you're surely
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: going to look up your book and think what is
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: happening with those two texts? And the background actor just
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: stayed steady on the book. They they may have been
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: directed to do that or or that they were they
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: were looking up and overreacting. So you know, the director,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think Amy Amy wrote and directed. So I think
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Amy pribbly said, just just read your book because you're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: screw you're screws or something, you know what I mean?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: You never falling on the floor was like a bit
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: over the top, and it's like Jeremy down, Yeah for sure. Yeah, um,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And I mean you guys can go through the scene.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I again, I kind of tuned out with all the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: back and forth and I didn't even know what they
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: were talking about because I'm all I kept thinking about
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was get off the floor. Yes, that is not a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: place you want to be. Do you think that's the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: COVID in US or is? No? No, No, it's not.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It's it's like I've I've been doing enough airports. No,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you don't sit on the floor. I mean, am I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the only one? Now? That's like they're at the airport.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Where's the mass? Like for me, it's more like you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. You can't like greet even your
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: significant or family member at the gate. You can't do that. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: well I think Hartfords a smaller Yeah, that's that's true.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: That was and that post that wait a minute, that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was post were posting now because we have the bell
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: margin exactly. So Yeah, that was a little but fun,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: a fun spirited scene. I think they captured the spirit
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of the reunion and all wonderful, But yeah, I wanted
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: him to get off the floor. Then we get to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: the festival, which, Oh my god, I want to live
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in this town. Literally if I if I could go
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to a festival like that in my town, I would
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be the happiest person. That looked amazing that that. Yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that was quite a production. Uh quite a production? Um
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the song over and over again and again? Well was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it something? Something? In fair? Right? Have the lyrics for
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: us if we want to go through what was lyrics?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I did pull the lyrics, Oh Riley, give it to me,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: but talk more to your mike. I can't hear you
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the exact opposite. That's a good comedy. That's good comedy
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: there right, thank you? Okay, So do you want me
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to share my screen or should should you want to
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: repeat after me? Take it away? Roll out those lazy, hazy,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: crazy days of some ma, those days of soda and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: pretzels and roll up right now we don't stop the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: sun and moon to you. Thank you for participating. Oh
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I got you? Uh okay, So this is where this
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: is fare the episode for me, and maybe this episode
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is going off the rail now it's no, it's good fun.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: We're having good fun. So this is where we see
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the kids. You know, that's kind of where it went
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: off the rails for me. Um, Yeah, you know, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: get a whole summer has gone by, she hasn't been around.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Why hasn't Look if Jess shows up at at the wedding,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: why didn't he show up in Washington? Great question. It's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a whole summer. They're supposed to be in love. They
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: just kissed. Why isn't Jess in Washington Dean? Maybe I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: guess she's still with Dean. Come on, that's gonna stop Jess.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It's you know, in Washington is a bus ride. It's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a big deal. He jumps on a bus. He goes
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Caesar in Washington. They didn't fit it in. She's trying
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to write him the letter. Yeah, maybe they probably have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: not even say it. Don't really have self right, I'll
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: say it straight out. I thought that the Jess character
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was really damaged at that point, maybe irreparably, because if
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you see that kind of behavior, and granted, she was
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: away and she tried to keep in touch, and he's,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you know what, sixteen seventeen, you know, you know, the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: hormones are raging, and you know he's he's he's a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: lonely kid and he needs somebody any we needs a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: companion anyway, right, Um, but gosh, it really damaged that relationship.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And I don't know they built it up to to really,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it was this sort of crescendo of of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: this fruition of of of of youthful love, and it
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: took there were so many obstacles to get there. Why
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: did they Why did they still dating Dean? So what
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is a non factor in her heart? He he doesn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: even register anymore. My god, she you know, she got already.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: She wanted to wear a nice dress. She didn't want
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to see Dean that that day or even that nice.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: She wanted to go to the festival with her mother,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and where a Britain wear a nice dress and look
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: good and look for Jess. Agree, But we know that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and she but Jess doesn't know that. So all Jess
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: knows is I've come back for this girl. And she
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: still won't break up with Dean, and off she went
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to Washington. So I'm a set teen. It's very she
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: still won't break up with Dean. There was some expectation
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: because you know, he showed up a thing and and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: she kissed at the wedding and she kissed him at
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the end of season two, that she's supposed to break
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: up with Dean. He's supposed to get on a bus
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and go claim and go claim her if if he
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: wants her, go after her. He did. He did not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: He did not because he had nowhere else to go,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and he had nowhere else to go with the Luke.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: He came back for Luke as much as he came
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: back for Rory. So why didn't he go to Washington
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: all summer? Tell me? Tell me she won't break up
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: with Dean. He's not going to be like the other
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: man that she's cheating on Dean with. He did the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: grand gesture, he came there, wasn't it wasn't enough. He
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't understand women. He's got to go get in her
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: face in a real way and say listen, I'm your guy.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I want to be your guy. I mean, this was
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: so perfectly set up. This was so perfectly set up
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: at this point because we thought Jess was gone forever.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He done some horrible things, and now he's back. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: then he shows up the wedding and she plans a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: kiss on him, and he's never looked more vulnerable. And
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: then the next time you see him. He's making out
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: in broad daylight with an unknown girl, you know, grabbing
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: her buttocks. I was mourning the storyline. Why did you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: do this? I wanted to? I wanted to. It would
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: have been better for me if they just developed that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: love story. More, go ahead, Daniel, Sorry, no, I agree
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with you. I need Jess to kiss Rory, she said
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: to herself. I kissed him, I kissed her back, but
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: he not really. Yeah. They pause, and then he went
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: in for it. But we need we need him to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: do the initiating. We need him to like be like
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you are my girl, like you guys, got you effecting
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: so much of jets. He's already thank you. You shouldn't
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: have to expect something from you. Know, this is what
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: passion demands. If you're passionate about somebody, you cannot stop yourself.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: It compels you to get on a bus and go
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: go kiss her like That's what I mean. I'm not
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: saying go. You know, harassing compelled him to come back
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to start and ask for Luke's forgive me. I feel
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like he's doing a lot. I see both sides. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: think I don't think he's doing nearly enough. Guys, Riley.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I do see both sides. But to be fair, if
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: if I kiss somebody and then they but they have
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: another person and then they leave for a summer, it's like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what to do here, and he's okay,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Like I think he's also like has a lot of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: walls up and his guards up, and so he's like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move on. If she's going to move
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on to go to DC, she already has Dean. I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: think it made I think it hurt both characters. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: think it hurt his character because now he's just like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a mac daddy and and and and it hurt her
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: character because it makes her seem like she isn't worth
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it or she isn't as desirable and she is. He's
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a player and she's and she's not worth it, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: she's not worth it to him. So I think it
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: degrades her. So I think they took a big chance
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: story wise by doing that. And I didn't like it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it as a fan. I did not
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: like it. What it what How it made Rory look
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and now she's back with Dean and it's all good,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and it's like Jesus Man, you know, where's you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: all this build up and all this anticipation and then
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this is this is the payoff. Riley. Would you guys
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: call Jess and that dirty word? You guys say, yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: well what I'm sorry to think? What word you can
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: say it? You can sleep boy? What word they called
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: an F boy? And f boy? That's what the younger
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: fell in the blanks, a fire boy. I know you
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: had a different name. What was what did you call
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it two seconds ago? It's already out of my head,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: but you had a good term for it, mac daddy.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Did I just date myself very just like my layers?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: But they say that, and I agree with you. Jess
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily need to like hook up with this trap.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: But we don't we you know, we don't know her.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: We don't know what the deal she could. She could
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: be extraordinary and maybe that's right, right, But I mean, it's,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know there obviously unabashedly like really into each other.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of passion there, like grind grinding against
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a tree, you know what I mean? I have a
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: question a protracted period of time, have you been in
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a scene like that before where you just have to oh,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I guess that's coming, that's coming. I will save it
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: forget it. Asking now, I want to know ask it again?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: How awkward is that where you're just like, just make
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: out for three minutes straight, don't come up for air,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: go um, you get you get an altoid or you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: splits your breath. But awkward, you know what I mean? Yeah?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But you know people are professional about it, and what
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: is acting kissing life? Like do you try to kiss like,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: oh I'm gonna kiss this girl, or you're like, this
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is just work. Uh, you know, it's mostly it's mostly work.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's say, even if you are attracted to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the person, Okay, it's still an awkward situation because so
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: many people are standing around watching you with with boom
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: mix and cameras and extras and you know, every everybody's
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: looking at you. So it's it's not an intimate situation
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: at all. There's nothing terribly sexy about it. You know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: is there an art to kissing on camera? Like yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you really don't want to engage the tongue too much.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: This is this is the thing that is discussed many directors,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: you know, all directors where I've been in those situations, say, listen,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you know, it's you know what to do. It's like
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: if you go to if you get too liberal with
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the tongue, it's gonna it's gonna be a little much.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, you don't have to tell me that.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You don't want to, Courtney Krdassian, Yeah, you know you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: don't want to go deep with the tongue. You you
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: really don't want to engage the tongue very much at all,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know, So there's a way to do that to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: make it palatable for an audience because you know you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to. Yeah, you don't want to do that. Yeah, okay,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: so let me just all just bring it. So now
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Laura Lee and Rory are sort of going back and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: forth with Jess and the making out in the background,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and she tells Laura, la we did kiss who kissed too? Yeah? Again,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I thought, I'm trying to understand why Laurel I got
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: so upset. And I think it's because and and there
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: there's another there's another. The scene just just it just
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: collapsed for me because here we are. You know, now
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Rory's weakened as a character. This relationship isn't happening, or
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: at least it's paused for a long time, because how
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: do you come back from that? Um uh, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Rory's all grossed out, she's offended, she's hurt. Um and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Jess, it's like a fuzz boy and I
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: think that's the term fuzz or fooz fooz boy. And
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and and now you've got Laurela, you know, jumping down
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: her throat because she needs to make a decision one
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: way or another, right and and it was just hey,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: because she's she's cheating on in quotes emotionally obviously, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: she did kiss him, so I get that girl. I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: think Laurel is upset because you know, her daughter Roy
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: didn't listen to her in the first place. Stay away
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: from this guy's bad news. Now you see his bad news,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: make a choice. She I think she was just sick
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of it. She was just sick of the whole thing.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And I told you this guy was gonna bust your
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: heart open, and she got angry at her daughter because
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: of it. I totally back up Lorelie. Am I the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: only one. I'm like, I totally agreed with what she said.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, if you don't want to be with Dean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you gotta let that guy go because you're breaking his
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: heart and that's not cool. But the whole time, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was thinking, what about her own daughter's heart. She's her
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: daughters sitting there getting crushed by what's going on ten
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: feet away in a tree, under a tree, So what
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: about protecting her daughter's heart? What is this reaction like
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: jumping down to her about making a choice and and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: giving a crap about Dean's feelings? Is what about her
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: own daughter's feelings that she hasn't seen in months? Who
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: just came back and got slammed in the face, you know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: by by Jess and this other girl, And now she's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: sitting there dying in the street with her dress, And
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, what on earth about Jess? And I know that,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: but she's sixteen, for God's sake, be a little you
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: know better, mother, Be be a little more gentle with
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: your own daughter. She's her heart is breaking, right. I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: think she's being a great mom. She's tried, and at
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: a certain point you gotta let your kid figure out
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: on their own what's going on. I'm team Scott Riley,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: back me I with Daniel this one. I don't I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: don't like it when parents talk to their kids like
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: their screw ups. I don't like that. I don't think
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you should ever talk to your kid like the kids
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: screw up. Yeah, have some, have some, especially especially if
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it's a if it's somebody who is so so precocious
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and so sweet and so gentle natured as Rory. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: thought that that was an abomination I was as a parent.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I was offended. Rory is doing sweet? What is what
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Rory is? What Rory is doing sweet? She's a confused,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in love sixteen year old girl. She is not worldly.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: She she is just an open soul and a sweet
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: soul who is has is having her first experience at
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: at being in some kind of a love triangle, you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: as she's exposed to a bad boy. I'm not mad
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: at the messaging, loyalizes, No, it's not that you need
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to get this figured out. But it was how she
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: could have just a tone that it was harsh I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: agree with. It was a real tongue lashing man in
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: public from in front of her broken hearted daughter. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, get her out of there.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Like I would have been like, let's get out and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: let's go to Luke and have a cup of coffee
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and and talk it through. What does Roy needs. So
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: there's three characters that were damaged for me and I
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: didn't like it. Yeah, so that's not Laurel. I she's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: more compassionate pathetic than that. That's that's not Jess. You
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: know what's going on. Everybody's getting knocked down a notch
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: um bean Dean and she was like, hey, god off,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that poor step shows up. I mean, of course he
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: was probably up in the tree. No pun intended SAP trade.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, effectives though, because I don't. But
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting to hear how everyone feels about it. Sorry,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going back was with me on the SAP thing.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about who was right, who was wrong,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and it's just kind of a massive I'm not saying
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it's wrong. I'm not saying it's wrong or right. I'm
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: just saying my my feeling of it, how it hit,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: how it landed for me, just seemed I don't know
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: off for me. I agree to all right, So now
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the Gilmore and that hell. You know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I was glad Laura like told them. It took her
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: too long, but I was glad she told them about
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Christopher and Sherry and the baby, because I didn't enjoy
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: when they were blaming lower a lie or Emily was
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I learned some new information from that scene,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: which is always helpful, you know, if you want to critique, uh,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the the overall series and its episodes and its scenes.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: But I you know, I did. Maybe they mentioned this
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: earlier in the series, in the first two seasons, but
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I did not know that Laurela I pushed Christopher away
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: when she was sixteen and he wanted to be a family.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he learned a glimpse of that. Yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: well but that's fine. It's been subtle. We don't totally know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: but we got glimpses that he would have stayed with
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: her and I think maybe even marry her. But again, right, okay,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: well again, we're talking about a sixteen year old girl
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: who has a baby. We're not you know, her brain
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: isn't fully formed yet, right, she's sixteen, She's not making
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: good decisions. And here we have, you know, we have
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Richard and Emily, you know, the two headed cyclops telling
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: their thirty two year old daughter what a complete screw
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: up she is, again and again and again, with every
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: sarcastic dripping horrible comment coming out of their mouth. I mean,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: these are two of the nastiest people. I mean, for
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: God's sake, are they nasty to that girl? No wonder
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: she you know what, No wonder she got the hell
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: out of there. No wonder she didn't want any part
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of that. And I think that part of her that
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: came out at Rory in the prior scene is too
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: much Emily, and is the reason she got the hell
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: away from those people, because there was on a certain level,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: they are awful. I mean, do you want to be Scott,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You're so right? She reacted to like Emily reaction a
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: similar way to the way her parents reacted, and it's like,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: where is the like if they should have felt bad
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: for lor lies. She wanted to be with Christopher finally
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it's happening, and then this happens, and he's trying to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: do the right thing. It's very harold. God, I wanted
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to punch Richard in the face. I couldn't believe it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how he was talking to her. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: could not believe it. You know, she she had every
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: right too, and she I mean, I mean, continuing to
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: get beaten down by those two monsters for you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: it's life, it's you know, she drove them, I mean,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they drove her to that behavior. She's sixteen years old.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: She made a bad decision, you know, she went against
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: her wishes again, and she's a I think I'm at
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the point where I'm tired of these two people telling
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: their daughter they're they're quite spectacular daughter, uh, that she's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to screw up. I'm sick of it. I don't want
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to see it anymore. You know, It's like I've had
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: two seasons of it, and she's defended herself and and now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you know, here's the interesting thing. Now I get why
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Laurelai is so a cerbic with her wit towards her parents.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a complete defense mechanism. It started at sixteen,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: probably started prior to that. You know, she's smart, she's fast,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: she's funny, she's quick. And now it explains all of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the successive dialogue because that's a defense mechanism as well.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: She's using humor and she's using volumes of words as
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: an armor, as a shield. Even once she interacts with
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: her own daughter, that's her most safe space. She does
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it with other people too. She does it with everybody,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: am I is this amateur psychology one on one? Thank you?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: But this is this is now I get why there's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: so much verbiage. It's because she was raised and escaped
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: two of the most horrible people that I have ever
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: seen on television. How can you talk to your daughter
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: that way? Emily and Richard are complicated because I do
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: think they have many, many, many redeeming qualities as well.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: They're not all bad. Wait a minute. Richard's all how
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: competent and how smart, and how helpful and how loving
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: his own daughter was when he was setting up his
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: own office, right, he was let go for whatever reasons,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and he now he knows that his daughter is indeed
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: not a screw up her daughter. His daughter is very competent,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and he didn't want her to leave. He wanted her
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to stay. And now he's back to the same old tropes.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think Richard is an abusive father. I think Emily
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: is a completely abusive mother, and I'm boy. I think
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that disturbed me the most
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: about this is how much I started disliking those two
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: just beating up on her, on their daughter like that,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: just beating up on that because I think there's some
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: truth to what you're saying. I mean, she's a she's
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: in a bad deal. That's a bad deal for her.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: She's got to go there every Friday night and take
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: that crap. I feel I feel bad for her. Yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: why she left? Now I got it. Hey, you know,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: didn't come to me right away, but now I got it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: That's the thing these this show is not whatever it's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it's complicated. And you go from a scene where you're
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: loving it to something like this, sorry that that, that
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: scene was vil that that that was vile again, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: now you're hurt. You're destroying those two characters. You're really goes,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: what did you think of that? I love that scene.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I really love that scene. And you know, I she
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: had nowhere else to go. Oh I see, I look
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: at it differently. Not she had nowhere else to go.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: She went to where she was meant to be interesting.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Well said wow destiny, huh wow. But I mean she
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: opened up and she she was justifiably upset. I mean,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: having her reality is just not man. She's got this
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: great town, these great people, it's great daughter, and she's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: got to deal with those two monsters every week. Good God,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for her. I really love her. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: really love her character. I really I really love Laurela.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I really do. I think that she is a a
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: woman made out of iron and all heart and soul
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and um man, she just wants to keep it light,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't she. She just wants laughs because she didn't get
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: him growing up heavy stuff all heavy, heavy, Richard Emily
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: bs garbage, status, pressure, belittling and psychological torture every day
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: of her life. Magnitude of having a baby at sixteen,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: basically no support. Throw that in. Yeah, thanks a lot,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Mom and dad, you were great. I really appreciate that.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And there's and now she has to relive it because Christopher,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you know, it is what he is, and now he's
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing. And you know, I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: think Richard spelled it out very succinctly, right, you know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: he he's he's a guy that tried to do the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: right thing back in the day. And you know, of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: course you stopped that, Laura Lie, because you're who you are.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's just the way the way they expressed it, which
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: is exactly how I felt about Laura Lae. Her sentiment
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: was correct in that you need to make a decision
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: about Dean, like you're going after the bad boy. But
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: it's the way she did. I even think Richard verbalizing
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it was abusive. Why throw it in her face? What's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the point except they're so self indulgent with their need
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: to express their utter disappointment in that woman. God, man,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I would write them off. I would never go back there,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I would never ever go back there after
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: a tongue lashing like that. But she has to, and
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think maybe that's why Amy wrote this. I think,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: let's put a girl in an impossible situation with a
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: great kid. She's a spectacular strong woman, independent woman who
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: made a choice, and she has to go back into
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the into the tiger's den week after week after week,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and the chair her chair, and her whip is her wit. God,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that's so interesting you said that because it's like there
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: are so many laughs in this episode, But really you're right,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: like this show is so much deeper and there's so
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: much context that is that's what it's really about. And
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the fact that they're able to give us those laughs
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: amidst all this, maybe that's why we're so hooked. I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: think so. Were you happy to see Luke and Laurel.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I resolve their situation, I think, And this this is
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite lines and one of the bigger laughs.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: And the thing was when he was listing all her
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: capabilities and her iron stomach, that meant he was forgiving
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: her because he was joking around with her a little
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: bit and he's so comfortable with her that he can
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: say something off the cuff like that, and I think
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it gave her a great comfort. And then come again, Mimi,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm I've now melted, like
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: um lushy, this is so good. That great writing. It
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: was great writing. That's a great line. Yeah, it was
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: a very very I love the Luca moralized stuff and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: this it was very tender. It was it really really
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: was without it being overtly tender and sweet on her part.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not or whatever. It's just and she
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: really had a monologue there and it was like she
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: just nailed it. And you are so subtle with the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: way like and I I hope I don't seem like
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: stupid trying to be like a like analyzing acting, but
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: it's like the way you move and just the subtlety
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of it, just the slight with the towel or the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing over there. It's just so you're just
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: completely hooked. It's so good. And enacting parlance, it's called
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: being connected to the character to the other. Yeah, I mean, listen,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you know I enjoyed that scene very much. That it
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: was a powerful scene for me, you know, really really
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: was um And that's you know, I think, just in
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: an acting sense, to get a little wonky. You know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the smaller you can work, the better. And uh, and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that really called for it. You know, you think you're
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: good at that because it's so you're so there and
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: so like your presence is big, but it's so like
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: just subtle. But yeah, I have to be careful because
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of large. Is that because you're tall you
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: have to be careful. You can't flail around if you're large,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: little little guys can flail around. And so as as
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: we've gone through it, I kind of get why you
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: didn't love it. But looking now that we've discussed it,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about the episode? You know what,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: You're right? I think it was a pretty outstanding episode.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I would give it an A, not an a minus,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: not an A plus, but I would give it an A.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I I think it had enough there to give a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: top marks. I was just a little and and since
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: it's a season premiere, I think they'll rehabilitate these characters
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. Will be we'll have,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll hit the relief valve and go, oh,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: thank god, you know. But I think it's just a
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: way of ratcheting up the tension right at the top
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of the season, you know, and setting up for what's
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to come. So I'm still going to give it an
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: A now that we've discussed it. Yeah, I've come around
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But those few things I'm telling you
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: and being honest with you in the moment last night
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: when I was watching it not a happy camper, I'm
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: glad that you tell us, Like, what did you guys
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: think now that we've discussed it. I love half of
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: it and I didn't like half of it, but I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: would I would agree with the A rating. Yeah, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: would say I like the whole thing because I love
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the complicated stuff. Yeah, it isn't amazing that this show
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: can even have awarts and all is still great, still great.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: We've done a lot of the lines. Also sidebar the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: fashion fashion this was great fashion before we get two lines,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I got a time code for everyone. Fool clown pillow
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: if anybody saw it was in your face right there.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, guys. I immediately went on eBay
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and purchased not one, but two of the Hello Kitty
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: alarm clock. Like, I don't even want to think about
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: how dirty and jeremy the clock is going to be
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: because it's obviously like twenty plus years old. But I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: cannot wait. It's already shipped. I cannot wait. You know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: the Hello Kitty guys, I think I spent forty two
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: dollars on each one. So I spent almost a hundred
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: dollars on two. What do you going to do with those?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Give you one after I'm gonna take a lot of
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: four oh nine and clean it and then give you one,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put one back here when we do
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: this Show're gonna watched Abon's Live where we just have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: a prop like prop like wall behind us, which just
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: keeps getting Gilmore junk, Gilmore junk. I think I ordered
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a Gilmore T shirt too, that I hopefully we're wearing soon. Um, alright, cool,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: So I think I think we went through it. So
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the line, my line is I'm ranting. You should recognize this.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I learned it from you. Mine's from Michelle, so sad
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: not to have a cocktail in your hand every time
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: he comes by. No, mine was from Paris. Was it
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a good ask out? Was it a good ask out? Yeah?
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: She didn't really, she was getting asked out. I there
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: was a couple, but I settled on the look line
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: and your iron stomach. Oh yeah, it's right up there
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: with I think the Yanique line was better. H No,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: do tell you know when it's just his attitude, not
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the line so much, but his attitude when he was
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: just staring at Kirk like and told disbelief about his
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: cows don't wrinkle lotion. So but I'm gonna go with
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the look line, iron stomach, and your iron stomach. So
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: that's it. I think we picked up apart pretty well.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I would like people to let us know if they
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: liked us going through it in order. I think they do.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I think they do. I think get some complaints about
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: our jumping. I think I think they do, because I
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: think we also inevitably can't help ourselves to create a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: lot of chaos during our tangential chaos inclinations, So it's yeah,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's just an ournature. Anyway, that was fun,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: great season premiere. All in all, Um, they're gonna, really
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: the writers are gonna rehabilitate those characters and it's going
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: to be very entertaining to watch, and I'm very eager
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to see how they do it, you know. Um, but uh,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes you have to do what they say in the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: writer's room. You gotta kill your your favorite children, and
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: they certainly did that in this episode. So anyway, thanks
• 57:32
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• 57:35
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• 57:38
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• 57:41
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