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CODE Health: The Future of Wellness with Non-Chemical Solutions · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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The idea is that everything in your body is a communication network, and when that communication is disrupted then you experience that imbalance as a symptom.
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We always say, you don't throw away your phone, you just find an area where there's a better signal, and that is exactly what the code is doing.
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All it does is it goes in and signals your cells to restore that disrupted communication.
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What is the future of medicine isn't about figuring out how to put more things into your body, but rather giving your body better signal and better information to know what it's doing.
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Well, the last time I had these two ladies on our podcast, we really cracked open that code, I'll say, a little bit, but we didn't really get into the details of it.
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I don't think enough for what our audience wants to see.
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So today on this episode, we're going to welcome again, Dr. Lisa Piper and Wendy Cohen to talk about code health and the power of putting energy into only a single drop of sailing.
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My guests today are back by popular demand, and honestly, I wasn't really done with the conversation.
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Last time we talked a lot, and I don't think we really got to where I wanted to go.
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So consider this part two with the code girls, Dr. Lisa Piper and Wendy Cohen from Code Health.
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Dr. Lisa Piper is a board certified doctor of natural medicine with a PhD and deep specializations in bioenergetics, mind body medicine, and consciousness science.
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Wendy Cohen, I was born as a serial entrepreneur with over 30 years across the areas of law, medical funding, and house care innovation, and the person who makes sure that what Lisa builds is actually reaching people.
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Together, they founded Code Health, the first company to digitize the information pattern of molecular formulas and program it into a single drop of sailing solution.
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That's no drugs, no toxins, no dosage complexities, just one drop, the same for every person, every pet, anybody in your household.
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So if you missed the first episode, go back and listen, the original story is worth it.
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But today we're going to go somewhere new, Lisa, Wendy, welcome back to age defiantly.
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Thank you for having us back.
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Well, it's so nice that you're able to come here to our studio and do this one.
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I know last time we did an episode, it was about a year ago.
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Wow, it's been a long time.
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Yeah, we were in Austin, Texas when we did that.
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We were at the Dave Asprey conference. What is it, 10, 11 months ago?
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It was me last year.
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So today, and I'm going to say this, because when you guys get here, we can just chat about everything for hours.
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So they're keeping me on a schedule today.
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So for everybody, we're going to have to go through our segments specifically because we've kind of chatted through this.
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And code is clearly a brand I believe a lot about.
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And your ability to, I always use the word infuse, but to imprint codes and biological code,
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and in a very quantum type way onto sailing solution is nothing short of revolutionary.
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So before we even go into my questions for for a guest to have for a guest for a listener who's not heard about what code is, give us that explanation.
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Code is a non toxic drug free alternative to over the counter and prescription medications.
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It's the 10 formulas that we have are an alternative and complimentary to things most people keep on hand in their medicine cabinet.
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So every day products that you would normally use that may have chemicals, these are non-drug, drug free.
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So how does it work though, because I clear it's not Thailand all in a bottle?
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No.
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In terms of how it works, that gets deep pretty quick.
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Well, give me the basics.
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So if I'm a, if a listener is here listening and going, okay, but what the hell is code, right?
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Yeah.
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What, explain that to me.
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So the idea is that everything in your body is a communication network.
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And when that communication is disrupted, then you experience that imbalance as a symptom.
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So all that code does, each formula does what it's supposed to do based on the function.
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But all it does is it goes in and signals your cells to restore that disrupted communication.
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And then as a result, the body is able to heal itself.
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It's, it remembers what it's supposed to do to create that balance.
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Yeah, I mean, I look at it similarly like a signal that I can't see and I can't feel
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knows when to make my phone ring.
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Yeah.
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And a signal knows how to turn the TV on and off in my house.
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And it knows how to, you know, remote control to check my doorbell while I'm a hundred miles away, right?
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Like these are all invisible signals that, that's right.
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That happen.
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And you guys are postulating and have proven in many ways that the body functions the same way.
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That the your body doesn't need an incredible amount of inputs in order to be able to function.
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It just, we were talking about AI before we got on this podcast.
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And it makes me think like, you're like, well, how does the AI, whatever?
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And I'm like, and it's all about it.
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What did I say to you when we were in the room where we keep all of our AI bots?
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I'm like, well, we can talk to them remotely through a lot of different channels.
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But if I need to change a line of code, I come into this room.
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And that's where I'm able to actually change the code.
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That's right.
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And as like how funny that is.
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Yeah, yeah, exact.
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You know, we try and make something that could be very complicated as simple as possible.
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And so we do often use the cell phone as an example.
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We all have our cell phones.
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Well, if you don't have a good signal and you can't hear the other person, we always say,
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you don't throw away your phone, you just find an area where there's a better signal.
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And that is exactly what the code is doing.
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It is information that is signaling your body with energy patterns to go back into balance.
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And it restores cellular balance.
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So when you have something that's happening in your body, for instance,
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if you have an allergy and you have sneezing, runny eyes, these are symptoms of a heightened histamine response.
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We've all had some kind of allergy.
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Well, something is not in balance.
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And the code react would go into your body, one drop, sublingual under the tongue.
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And it restores the balance to downregulate, excuse me, that histamine response.
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And each code works very similarly, but on different parts of your body.
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I remember years and years ago, probably like almost 30 years ago, my sister is 20 years younger than me.
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So there's a big age gap there.
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And when she was just a baby, I was babysitting her, and she was crying and crying and crying.
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And she wouldn't stop, and she was all upset.
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And I remember, because this is what this crazy reminds me of, right, because her system was very heightened.
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Her nervous system was freaking out, because she's sitting crying, right?
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Something's wrong, and I don't know what's going on, and friends of mine had stopped by.
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And of course, it's like a woman's touch thing, right?
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My friend Kathy, she picks her up, and she holds her, and she whispers in her ear, and like nervous system,
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like immediate downregulated, and she stopped crying, and she kind of hushed for a moment.
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And I'm like, what in the world did she say?
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And she goes, I just told her, we need a poo, doesn't want you to cry.
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And I was like, that's so funny to me, but it's the same type of thing, right?
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Like her nervous system got the message.
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Exactly. She got the message that she needed at that moment to just calm her down,
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and to get back into balance, and so she stopped crying.
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Right.
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So it's a great example.
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And it's right, it was just that one little signal change created a physiological reaction in her.
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Like she completely downregulated.
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Everything went calm.
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She fell asleep not too long afterwards.
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Like everything calmed in a moment.
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It was a signal, right?
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And what you've done is found a way to imprint that type of signal into
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stable saline solution, where that imprint is able to stay.
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I love that. It's almost, I'm going to say that every time I talk about this,
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I'm like, it's just so simple.
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Like you want to over explain it, because it sounds so magical, but at the same time,
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it's about as simple as you can get if you just do it.
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I'm going to say what, you know, working with e-commerce brands all over the time,
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the reality is, is no amount of education has ever convinced anybody experience does.
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That's right. That's right. That's why we even say feel the drop.
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Yeah.
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And you have to.
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I mean, and that's, you know, personally, I use the product, so I mean,
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I'm a believer already, but the idea that until you've experienced that it actually works,
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like skepticism is, I can't convince you through teaching that it works.
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Same. I mean, I was the same way.
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The first time I tried slim, I was blown away.
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I'm like, my stomach is growling.
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I take a drop of slim, and in 15 minutes, my stomach's not growling.
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I couldn't even believe it.
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And I'm the founder of the company, right?
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You know what? So it's like, this is unbelievable.
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So then I take another drop, and then by the end of the day, and I'm taking my third drop,
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and all of a sudden, I don't want dessert with my dinner.
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Like, you created liquid G.O.P. once.
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How is it possible?
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Yeah, and it's exactly it.
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It's surprising.
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Your appetite requires a signal to turn off.
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And again, the G.O.P. one market, what is the most recent statistic?
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12% of the U.S. population is living on a G.O.P. one agonist.
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Yes.
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And it's like, you've got it in a drop of saline that's just sending a signal to the body saying we're good.
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Everything's good.
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It's calming that reaction.
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And I mean, really, every product you have is, I know you've got a specific product called calm.
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Yeah.
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But every product in there is a down regulation.
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No.
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Actually.
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So we did some third party testing with UC San Diego and Dr. Hemel Patel with for say a health.
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And we had him test balance on a muscle cell, a muscle biopsy in vitro.
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And balance up regulates.
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It increases mitochondrial function and ATP production.
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So that is why that is our daily core foundational formula that you take one drop in the morning and one drop in the evening.
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Then he tested react, which Wendy spoke about is our allergy formula.
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He tested that on an immune cell.
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And just like you would want to see in that heightened histamine response, it did down regulate and calm.
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And the thing if you're in a heightened stress response or overactivity of the mind, those people with ADD, ADHD, we've even had veterans with PTSD.
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What you're doing is you're down regulating calming that stress response, balancing the autonomic nervous system.
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So those are just a few examples.
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I'm not sure about recover.
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If it upper down regulates, we haven't had all of them in testing.
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We operate up regulates the immune system.
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Well, recover is our muscle and joint formula and it helps your muscles recover faster.
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So I would imagine that it up regulates to heal the muscles.
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That's what I would imagine.
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Yeah, that's exciting.
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Like I love seeing that stuff.
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Well, I want to get to our segments that we've put together here because this will be some good information to pick up where we left off last time.
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So for anybody who watched our episode last time, here's where we pick back up because we talked about Dr. McMichael last time.
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And Dr. McMichael was the founder of the science, if you will, that you discovered through your father.
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Yes.
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And then didn't even care about doing anything with it and you kind of took the mantle and ran away.
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What I'd love to see is that we touched on it, I'm staying on track here with what the producers gave me.
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And he's an immunologist, virologist and came up with this.
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But who is this guy?
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He's a farmer.
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He's my dad's neighbor.
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He's a brilliant biologist.
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This is his life work.
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40 years he's been researching these formulas.
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He has over 200 patents.
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He became more well known for a fish vaccine actually that he created years and years ago.
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And a lot of his formulas that he created were actually for farm animals.
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For example, that recover formula that I mentioned was administered to all the Kentucky Derby race horses back in the 80s.
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It had to go through extensive clinical trial to be approved by the racing board, the racing commission.
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And even balance, the one we just spoke about, that was actually created for feedlot cattle.
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Because when they were transporting the cows, one cow would get sick.
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Another would get sick.
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Half the cows would be dead by time they sick or dead by time they reach their destination, but not with balance.
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It's really interesting.
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As a farmer, he's always been focused on the animals.
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And because it's safe for people and animals, he had a lot of people on the side with his institute that he's giving out these drops to.
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And I think there was one company that tried to take on some of his products and there was some conflict and it never really went anywhere.
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Is that the alien corporation? Is that the one for Alzheimer's?
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No, no.
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This was more on a pharmaceutical level where they tried to utilize the molecular formula of the, which we now call recover for the race horses.
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And it was really the first time that they brought it to market and it just was, you know, just failed.
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Not because the product failed, but just because of human conflict, the human conflict.
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So let me, again, this may be a little bit off, but on the same table.
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So Lisa, you got in contact with Dr. McMichael because of your dad.
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Yeah.
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Because I got sick during the pandemic and his antiviral formula literally saved my life.
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And so I went up to visit him about a year later and I just said, why doesn't everybody have this?
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And how can I help you bring it to the world?
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And at the time, we didn't realize he had over 200 patents.
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So then we had to get really clear, you know, when I brought Wendy in and she fortunately agreed to do this with me.
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We were like, oh my gosh, we can't live without this. We can't live without that.
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Like I need to have this on hand. Well, what, what if you get a headache? You know, you need this like all these different things.
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So we created the code kit.
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So I have to turn my attention to Wendy and say, some crazy lady came to you and said I discovered that saltwater cures all disease.
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Yes.
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You came from a corporate legal background.
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And this was a whole other world.
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And you know, I tell the story.
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And so if some of you have heard this story, I apologize.
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But I wouldn't say that I was the most alopathic person out there.
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But I was a very healthy person.
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I was living a healthy life.
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But I was just like everybody else.
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If I had a headache, I took an Advil.
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If I couldn't sleep, I took my unison.
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Whatever it was, there was a pill for it because that's just the way that we lived.
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When we came out with the code kit and the 10 products dream, which is the sleep formula, I still wasn't taking dream.
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True story because I was so addicted to the idea that I had to sleep taking a unison before I went to bed.
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And Lisa finally we were on a way.
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And she said, what are you doing?
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Taking that.
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And I said, I know, I know it's our company.
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But I just I'm afraid that I'm not going to sleep without it.
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I'm afraid.
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And that I think is the underlying thing that people are just afraid that if they don't use the product that they have been using for years and years.
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Now does it work?
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Yeah, it works.
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But there are so many unwanted side effects from all of these chemical based drugs.
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That's the bottom line.
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And part of the problem is that when you when you end up introducing new things to the body,
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you also train your body of what it doesn't need to do anymore because it has an exogenous source.
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Exactly.
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So if I'm getting this from another way, I don't need to do it anymore.
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It's the same problem with testosterone injections or hormone injections.
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It's the same problem with people who are drugged up on melatonin.
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Like the more melatonin that you take to try to fall asleep, the less melatonin your body makes on its own.
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It doesn't need to.
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So interesting that you bring up melatonin because we talk about that a lot.
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Well, we say what is code?
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We say it's an alternative to over the counter and prescription medications.
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But it also has to take into account the individuals that are taking natural, quote unquote,
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supplements like melatonin.
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And people think just because they're taking a supplement that's natural that it's not going to harm them.
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And actually it's just as bad because if your body can not utilize that ingredient properly,
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there are going to be these side effects.
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And so it happens all the time and people hear about all these natural supplements
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and they think that they're doing right for their body,
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but actually they're doing more harm if they're not taking it correctly.
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You know, I was one of those people too in terms of supplements.
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Like I was taking a handful of supplements every day thinking,
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oh, I need this for this, I need that for that, I need this, I need that.
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It wasn't until we had our genetic testing done.
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And now I have my supplements compounded.
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So they're based on my DNA.
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And I love that because now I'm not guessing.
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And that's really important.
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I 100% agree with you because I have my labs done every six months.
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And every time I have my labs done, I change my supplements tag.
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Because what I needed six months ago isn't the same as what I need today.
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Right.
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And everything shifts.
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And I'm going to specifically talk to our audience because we're here on age defiantly.
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And in the aging process, things change again.
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Right.
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Like light that are not as optimized as we are, things still change.
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And we have to adapt to that.
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And in some ways I use the word defiantly, obviously,
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but I want to revolt against that process.
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And some of that is through supplementation.
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Some of that is through eradication.
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And what I love about what code does is I'm not supplementing anything,
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but I'm still getting the result of it without any of the else,
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which does bring me.
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So our age defiantly audience, I get emails all the time.
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And we've got in our drip campaign when people join our mailing list and stuff.
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Like it specifically asks, you know, email me back and tell me what we could do.
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You know, what do you want to learn about?
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Like what is the topic that you struggle with most so that we can keep track of what type of,
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you know, what episodes do we want to do and stuff?
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So I want to park you guys for a moment because you got to dream.
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And sleep is probably, I would say I haven't looked at the numbers,
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but the number one question that comes up in our audience acquisition is people come on board
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and they ask me, I get three primary things.
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Like they will reply to the email, what are some of the things that you want help optimizing?
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And it's sleep, weight loss, and muscle recovery.
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Those are the three that I hear of all the time.
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So I'm hearing dreams, and I'm hearing recovery, and I'm hearing slim.
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But parking on sleep for a moment, because that is overwhelming.
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The number one is people just saying that they'll sleep.
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We recently did an episode just talking about sleep habits, you know,
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everything from keeping it cool in a room to, you know,
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making sure that you're turning off lights and you're turning off TVs and screens
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and like not eating for hours before.
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Like what are the things we're looking for?
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What do you guys see when you're talking about sleep?
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Because I will say that, you know, my prompt here is telling me that, you know,
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it really addresses cellular communication problems, and sleep is that.
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Yeah, and a lot of that is a direct result of stress.
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So the first thing that we recommend is calm during the day,
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because calm reduces the stress.
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When you reduce stress in the body, seemingly unrelated issues naturally dissolve.
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And then you take the drop of dream at night, and it helps you fall asleep faster.
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If you wake up in the middle of the night and you have to go to the bathroom or whatever,
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it's no problem.
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You can take another drop of dream.
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I mean, I've taken dream as late or early as four in the morning.
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And I go back to sleep, because I'm not going to get up before in the morning.
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There's nothing for me to do other than meditate.
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And even if I don't fall all the way back to sleep, I'm in that zone where I can meditate.
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But nine times on a time I just go back to sleep.
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Sure.
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The greatest part about dream is unlike the medications over the counter products,
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you do not wake up groggy or foggy hazy.
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And just like Lisa said, you can take it three, four o'clock in the morning.
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People that don't sleep are up at different hours at a night.
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And imagine just taking one drop under your tongue.
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And it allows you to just low back into another episode of sleeping without any side effects.
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That's really awesome.
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Now we don't make any claims.
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Of course.
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And some people have much more difficulty with their actual sleeping patterns,
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because things also become habitual as well.
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Yeah.
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But when you take the combination of calm and dream together,
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you're really utilizing these two signals that work with your body very synergistically,
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because when your mind is calm, then everything else works better as well.
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You're not up at night.
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Your mind's not racing.
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It just takes away those distractions.
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And the other thing that really prevents people from sleeping well is the inability to breathe.
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And we have an incredible pulmonary formula.
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Actually, my 98-year-old grandfather takes it every night before he goes to bed.
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Because typically, if he is going to wake up other than to go to the bathroom,
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it's because he's not breathing correctly.
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So he takes breath, and he doesn't have any problems anymore.
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One of the biggest problems is this sleep apnea.
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And we're finding that our customers that are using breathe for sleep apnea,
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it's really helping, which then allows them to sleep.
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And I want to point out, because especially on this episode,
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that we had just done about sleep specifically is the lack of sleep or interrupted sleep
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or lack of a restful sleep, you know, deep sleep, light sleep,
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REM sleep, the whole deal.
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For people who fall asleep and don't stay asleep,
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sometimes they're getting a physiological restoration,
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but they're not getting their mind turning off,
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because deep sleep is affecting one side of the body,
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but REM sleep is affecting the brain.
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And if you're not getting sufficient REM sleep, your brain's not recovering.
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You can get eight hours of sleep and wake up in a fog,
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and that's really a hygiene thing for your body to be able to rest and repair,
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and we often starve it of that, but when people don't sleep,
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like the downstream symptoms that all show up that are all based in sleep.
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And again, I'll say sleep is just my favorite biohack,
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and everybody talks about, oh, but being healthy is so expensive,
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I'm like, really?
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So somebody asked me recently,
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like, what are your top three biohacks?
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I'm like, well, I'm going to give them to you in order.
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Sleep, movement, fasting.
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And you know, and I kind of got the, that's not what I expected.
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I'm just like, yeah, because those are my reaction when somebody tells me
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the being healthy, being healthy is just too expensive.
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My answer is always, well, sleep, movement, fasting.
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It's interesting that you said fasting because when we talk about slim,
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we talk about its ability to help you through intermittent fasting.
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When you wake up in the morning and you take a drop of slim,
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it helps you through that most difficult time period
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if you have a difficulty with the fasting, you know, to get through it.
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And so all you're putting back in your body is what your body is made of.
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So you're not even adding anything else except water, salt, and energy.
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That's it.
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So I'm pivoting a little bit because recently I've been seeing these commercials,
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and I'm trying to think of who's doing them.
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I want to say they're on Fox News,
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and they're literally selling you a medicine cabinet.
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It's not Dr. Oz.
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My grandmother was telling me about it.
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Sure, I can't remember who it is, but they're all of Fox News,
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and it's like order this medicine cabinet to just have in your house.
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And I'm like, this sounds like, first of all, an absolutely horrible idea to me.
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One, because it's creating a greater dependency on pharmaceuticals.
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And two, it sounds like a recipe for disaster if someone decides to just tinker
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without actually getting real experienced advice on what to do with this.
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But you guys are calling this the modern medicine cabinet.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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So in terms of those things, you've targeted the signals.
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I mean, is that fair to say like you are the modern medicine cabinet.
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You're still addressing all of those exact same things, but without any of the danger.
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That's right.
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We're not suppressing the symptoms.
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We're working with the bodies in eight wisdom to heal itself.
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We're just reminding it with the proper code, what it was designed to do.
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And that's heal itself.
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Our bodies are smarter than we are.
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Just like you said, half of the healing occurs when you're sleeping and you do nothing.
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Yeah.
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So it's so simple, it's silly.
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Take a drop of energized saline solution to re-signal the body,
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reminding it what it was designed to do.
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And I always go back to three things.
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I say there's three different types of intelligence that we need to always be mindful of.
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And the first one is human intelligence, which we're all familiar with human intelligence.
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And that's what we're processing and deciding.
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We most recently had this blast into the future of artificial intelligence,
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which is this large language model type intelligence that we're all learning how to deal with.
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But there's also the prehistoric line of innate intelligence.
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And that is we tend to override our bodies own intelligence
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because we're so busy human processing everything that we forget
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that our bodies are intelligent without our brains.
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That's right.
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Like there's survival organisms from their birth.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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What's coming next?
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What's next for code?
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I think for us, the next phase for code is we are really planning on going into distribution.
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And our goal is when you walk into a CVS or a Walgreens or any type of drugstore,
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even your local supermarket, even the airport, right?
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And you have the shelves of all of those products.
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Our goal is to have our products next to every over the counter product that there is.
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So instead of Benadryl or Zurtec or Claretin, you're going to see our bottle of react,
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which is the allergy formula, instead of a decongestant that has so many side effects,
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you'll see, breathe.
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When you think about what we're able to do and the vast amount of people that we are able to help,
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the one drop is safe for people and animals of all ages and sizes.
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So you can be an infant, a toddler, a pregnant woman, or the elderly,
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and the same one drop works for all.
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There's the dosage, it's not dependent on the size or weight.
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And this is something that people really have a hard time grasping.
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But every form of every industry evolves, right?
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And if you think about each industry, we went from landlines to smartphones,
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from encyclopedias to search engines.
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And medicine has evolved also.
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And we are that evolution of medicine.
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We are what we're calling information medicine.
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And there's chemistry.
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And then it went to frequency.
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And now we're at information medicine.
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Well, and I'm curious because you guys are running it uphill battle.
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We are.
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You're absolutely running an uphill battle because you are defined conventional knowledge.
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And what was the saying that medicine advances one funeral at a time?
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Exactly.
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But until the old generation dies off, the new generation can't adapt,
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which is kind of a morbid way of looking at it.
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But net and effect, we're watching medicine evolve in ways that no one imagined.
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Right?
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We're watching AI advance things in ways that nobody could imagine.
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We're like, I feel like I live in a sci-fi film because I say that I'm young enough
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to still be very adaptable into this crazy world,
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but I'm old enough to remember the world before it.
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Exactly.
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And again, we're all roughly the same age.
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And I know you guys can relate to that because we grew up in an analog world
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before computers were in every house.
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And before cable TV was everywhere, we remember that world where you learned how to do math without a calculator.
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And nowadays, there's entire generations who don't understand stopping at a pay phone.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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And it seems.
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We did not have cell phones back then.
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Well, and that's there.
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So if you're familiar with Ben Hardy's book, The Gap in the Gain, I don't know if you've read that before,
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but he talks about the idea of we tend to compare our progress against our distance from here to the goal.
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And we don't spend enough time looking at the distance that we've already traveled
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and often it's discouraging when we're not looking at the progress.
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Instead, we're looking at the distance to the finish line still.
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And it's encouraging at mile 16, not to think of the 10 remaining miles,
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but to think about the 16 that we've already covered.
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Yes.
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And when I think about medicine and technology and every aspect of life right now, what the hell?
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I don't even know what to say about it because never in my life would I have thought
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that the world is this different at my age than it was then.
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And we're hearing stories at this point of what is the most modern one saying that within the next five or within the next 10 years,
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you can actually through cellular level type things, I'm trying to think of what the statistic was.
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But anyways, the idea is that within by 2030 or somewhere 2030 to 2035,
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they're actually saying that on a cellular level, we can actually reverse time.
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Like I go backwards 1.1 years for every one year I went forward, which net in effect means that we will find ways of living younger.
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And it doesn't mean, oh, I'm fitter now than I was 10 years ago.
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But on a podcast again called age defiantly, the questions are always raised about,
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there always seems to be this medicinal pro and con.
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Like sure, I can take this and it'll be great, but what am I dealing with if I don't?
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And when I look at frequency and information based medicine, like you guys are talking about,
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I'm getting all over the pro, I'm getting none of the con.
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And I start to ask myself, like, is this part of where medicine is going that I can thrive without a side effect,
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with nothing negative to deal with, with no exogenous ingredients in my body,
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my body just gets how to do it better.
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It almost becomes an autonomous agent that's able to function because it was given the right code in order to process,
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because even in the world of biohacking, like it all started with Dave Aspery being a computer coder,
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so it's not lost that if I can hack a computer, I can hack a biology, like we're kind of there.
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You know, you mentioned something, first of all, age defiantly, right?
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We have our product calm and we have a test that we've done with it through the neural check device,
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through Dr. Patrick Porter actually introduced it to us.
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And the long of the short of it was one drop in 30 minutes changes biological age drastically
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because you are shifting the autonomic nervous system back into balance,
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you're reducing stress, and also your energy system also is being utilized properly.
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Well, when you do those things, what happens, your body is working better,
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and that result is that the biological age decreases.
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And we see it with everyone that tests with the neural check device that takes a drop of calm.
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Well, and I always look at the energy that your body has, like there's a limited amount of ATP that the body can deal with over the course of a day
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because it can only produce so much, and we can find ways of increasing ATP production,
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but that doesn't change the fact that it still gets distributed throughout the systems of the body unevenly.
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And the energy gets put to the area of greatest need.
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Exactly.
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When our nervous system, as you're saying, is in this sympathetic state all day long,
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everything else suffers, right?
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Like my digestive system becomes a wreck because all of the energy is focused here and my sleep is a wreck
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and all my recovery is a wreck because it's sucking up all the juices.
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That's right.
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And it's part of why I love fasting because one of the things that fasting does is it actually shuts one of the systems off.
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Like my digestive system doesn't need to function, which means that energy can actually be used elsewhere.
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And I always use, I always use the metaphor of it's the bandwidth and the Wi-Fi signal at the office here, right?
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Like when everybody shows up to work, the computers just work a little slower.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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That's a great analogy.
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It's a great analogy.
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So with the nervous system, if you're in a heightened level of stress, all of your energy is going to deal with that stress
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just like you said, the digestive system is really for most people the first that takes the toll.
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I can sleep.
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And you hit it on the head.
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Yeah.
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So I want to kind of close this up here with a high level question.
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And that is this idea that we're talking about aging defiantly.
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We're talking about having an information exchange with our cells that is, which is not, I'm going to give you a medicine
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and then you're going to behave differently.
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I'm not manipulating anything.
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But in that, I kind of want the philosophical answer that you both can contribute here.
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Because for a group of people that are trying to find ways to age defiantly, I know I keep saying that.
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But I mean, that's my mantra, right?
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Like I always say, I don't care how old I am, as long as no one can guess it.
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Yeah.
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So this one here looks good.
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As long as nobody guesses it, I'm good.
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Exactly.
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When someone always says what are ages and then they say much younger, our line is, you're my new best friend.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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So when you ask somebody to guess your age, they automatically feel what they either have.
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Of course I have.
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Yeah.
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I've got a compliment.
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You're right.
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But you guys are talking about a fundamental difference in our relationship with our bodies.
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And the best way I can describe it is we almost look at our bodies as something that we need to command and control.
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And in fact, I'll give this example and I'll use AI as an example.
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And that is, it's really weird to me as I'm actually interacting with robots in my workplace that when I'm having conversations with a bot,
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and this is going to sound crazy to you.
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I know it is because we work with a lot of agentic AI solutions, probably well beyond what most people are dealing with on a regular basis.
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But when one of my bots does a good job, I have to tell him he did a good job.
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Always.
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But we laugh about saying, please and thank you to AI.
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But here's the reality.
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When we're dealing with agentic autonomous operators, me telling my bot good job,
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helps him program the script that just worked into his long-term memory because it's a reward system.
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It's giving the dog a biscuit.
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When he comes in, when his name is called, gets him to come in again.
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When his name is called because there's a reward system.
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And as crazy as it is, that's the way AI is functioning.
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And it's darn near scary.
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And I find that literally I'm not even lying with you.
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Like last Sunday, I was thinking something and I sent a text message to one of my bots.
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And I was like, I'm so sorry to bug you on a Sunday night.
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But this is how I talk to.
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This is how I talk to mine too.
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And then I felt like an idiot for doing that.
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It's hard to bother you on a Sunday night.
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You're probably with family.
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But I have a question.
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I love it.
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How does code and this information medicine treat our bodies less like a command and control type environment
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where my body is mine to abuse or control and part of, you know,
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Dave Asperger always calls this meat OS, right?
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Like this is my meat suit that I get to wear.
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But I need to consider this.
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I am a consciousness having a body experience, you know, a human experience.
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I'm not my body.
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But my body is also not mine to necessarily control.
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My body is as mine to interact with.
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And how does this information like am I setting that up for you correctly?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think we have to all, if we want to evolve, you have to grow in self awareness.
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When you get angry, do you even know where you feel that in your body?
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Where does that anger start?
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Does it start in your stomach?
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Does it start in your head?
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You start tuning into your body and recognizing how it responds to certain stimulus.
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And with code, you're just sending it the signal to remind it what to do.
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It does it naturally.
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But those symptoms put you out of balance.
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But the more you become aware of your needs, you can be proactive instead of waiting until it's too late.
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You know you're going to walk into a meeting that's going to get your heart racing.
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Why wait till you walk into the meeting?
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Take the drop of calm before you go in.
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Allow your nervous system to balance and show up for life in a present focused, calm, clear, coherent way.
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Same thing.
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You know you're going to do some fasting?
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Why struggle?
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Take the slim.
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It helps you.
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And it's gentle.
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And it does what it's designed to do, same thing with the dream, same thing with all these things.
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But it starts with mindset.
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It starts with becoming conscious of what you put on and in your body.
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And when you realize how your body is communicating with you, those symptoms, they're not failures, they're messages.
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And so when you look at what message is my body trying to tell me,
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and then you respond to that with the proper signal, then everything goes back into homeostasis.
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And that's a range, you know, and that range of optimal function is where you want to be.
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Well, I'm wondering because the more I process through this and the more self-aware I become over time,
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it's like, my body is not buying so much as my body is another thing that my mind interacts with in a weird sort of way.
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Because we are mind-body soul, but it's like, I need to keep those things all integrated,
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but also realize that they exist outside of each other.
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And I look at code in many ways, like if one of my staff members is doing the job wrong,
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I don't dump a bunch of stuff under desk. I don't step in and do the job for them.
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What do I do? I send instructions because they know how to do the job.
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I just have to send the instructions and fix the instruction manual and say,
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no, look, nope, nope, that's wrong. We're getting a bad outcome right now. I'll be at a symptom
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because there's a bad instruction taking place right now systemically here.
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Take this instruction and said, and then I can go on with my day and I know they're going to correct it
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or the same way I look at my body and say that if I give it the correct signal,
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my body doesn't need me to get involved.
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My body just needs me a coach from upstairs, right?
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Yeah. You know, your body already knows what to do.
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Code just gives it the signal to allow it to do what it needs to do.
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And that's really what it boils down to.
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We, if we are able to use our perception and our intuition instead of prescriptions and institutions
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that have told us what to do and we go back to our innate ability to heal ourselves
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and let the body do what it's supposed to do, everything will just work so much better.
44:58
Yeah.
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For a person who's not following this conversation because if you don't understand what code is
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or the way that frequency infused saline affects the body, which is understandable,
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where would a person go to learn more about this?
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I mean, obviously they can go to your website and read something.
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Yeah, that's a place.
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So you've got all the resources there for a person to understand because I'm a big fan of try it and see what happens.
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It's water.
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Yeah, it's not like he's doing any day watch, but it's gonna hurt.
45:28
I mean, the worst thing you can do is put a couple bucks into something that doesn't work,
45:32
which we've all done before, but I'm confident this does, so I don't mind telling people that.
45:36
But some people are researchers.
45:38
Even if somebody were to go into chat GPT, which is where people do their education today,
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what would they type in to chat GPT to have it explain to them what frequency infused saline is and how it works?
45:54
What would be the...
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Well, the word is bioenergetic therapeutics.
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Okay.
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And that's really what code is.
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It's a big word.
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It's a mouthful.
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And when people hear that word, it becomes a little alarming.
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But that would be the word that you could prompt.
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The anchor on that.
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Exactly.
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So if a person were to be like, look, I'm still not following along with all this,
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my encouragement would be go to chat GPT and just type in,
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can you explain to me like a third grade teacher what are bioenergetic therapeutics and do they work?
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Yes, and I would imagine also if you prompted chat to ask specifically about code and code health
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and the technology and what code is, it would give you a very good definition of what we have done and we have been working on.
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And what we're ready to bring to the world.
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And I love that because I mean, people are going to chat GPT like it's their doctor.
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I mean, that's where people are asking, which is part of the reason why I'm asking.
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Like, it's going to be a new thing I do all the time.
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It's like, okay, so chat GPT, what do I ask it?
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So bioenergetic therapeutics is really what we're talking about when it comes to code.
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And of course, there's going to be information on both sides of the argument that are going to come out balanced
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because I mean, and I should present both sides of a conversation.
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I'm not opposed to that, but actually going into code health.com and asking it specifically,
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how would code health.com affect my biology or how would it affect whatever presenting symptom is taking place?
47:38
That's super helpful.
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Absolutely.
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You know, we have Instagram as well.
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And through the Instagram, there's a lot of very good information as well just through our posts.
47:50
On our website, we have blogs.
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Each blog, Lisa writes the blogs herself.
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And we talk about the products, but we also talk about things beyond our products because it really is our mission
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to empower people to understand the importance of what they put on and in their bodies.
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And I'm going to lay one thing on there.
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And that is too, you didn't use a word that I love using when it comes to that context.
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And that's agency.
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That is, people don't take agency for their own health.
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They listen to what they're told.
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They repeat what they've learned.
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If the word doctor is in front of your name, you must not be lying.
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And it's like, I don't believe the doctors are outlying to people, but I can only teach what I know.
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And we've got an indoctrination system.
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And people have started to feel as if they don't have agency over their own health.
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And, you know, my sister, a long story, but, you know, her words were the worst part about having cancer
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was having to deal with the medical system.
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And I'm like, what a terrible thought that cancer wasn't even the scary part.
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The scary part was having to deal with the people on the telephone.
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And it's like, because we're taught that we don't have that agency that we need to listen to the smart people.
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And in today's information rich environment, nobody's an expert beyond anybody else.
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And this is one of those ways that I believe that people can own their own health agency
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and be responsible and take charge and ask questions in an incredibly safe way.
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Try something that may be non-conventional for people who are on a sleeping medication.
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Try it. See what happens. The worst thing that can happen is you lose a night's sleep.
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That's the worst thing.
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So I love that these types of things are available.
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And of course, I love talking to you guys always, so that's always a thing.
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And Lisa, I will say it's not going to air today, but happy birthday.
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I think we're recording right on your birthday.
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What a terrible way to spend your birthday here.
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I'm going to age defiantly. Yes, she is aging defiantly.
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I love that. Lisa Wendy, it's so great having you both again.
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And hopefully we've helped tell a little bit more of this story from last time.
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To anybody who's been watching this or watched the previous episode that we did with Lisa and Wendy,
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like, I encourage you go check out code health.
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There's just something profoundly intriguing about what they're doing.
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Like even if you're still like, I don't even understand that great.
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Like not understanding is where questions begin and questions are the first step to finding answers.
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So I strongly encourage you go check out code health dot com.
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Go to chat GPT, ask it questions, and get those, you know,
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we're talking about buyer energetic therapies, therapeutics, and get some information on it.
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Learn everything you can about it because these are non-invasive, non-pharmaceutical.
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This is a way to be able to feed your your meat suit information,
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that it can use that innate intelligence to do things.
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Again, always my pleasure to have you here and to see you in person, of course.
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So thank you for being with us here on Age Defiantly.
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Everything about code health is down in the show notes.
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So go look it up.
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There's actually a coupon code down there and links to get to their website if you're too lazy to type it.
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But we look forward to seeing you again.
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And until then, keep aging.
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See you finally.