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- speaker-0: Four three two one. speaker-1: Hello! speaker-0: ⁓ Giggly glug just kidding. my god, I just had a heart attack. ⁓ Okay, okay, okay. Well, hello everybody. Hello. Welcome to the Wicked Messy Podcast. We're wicked messy. ⁓ and wicked silly. And wicked fucking silly. and we like wine. Wicked wine. We love wine. We don't know what we're doing. no idea. Alright, well, let's start off. My name is Alicia. The host. And I'm Hali the co host. My cousin. My best friend. Wherever and ever. ⁓ in the in house residential psychiatric nurse ac practitioner. Did are any of those words correct? Psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, yeah you got it. What about the residential part? I don't know about residential, yeah, no. What's a residency? That is what you do before you become like a speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: But I don't even have to do residency as a nurse practitioner. That's more like an MD. Okay, then how come Kyle from Summer House keeps talking about a residency in Hegas? Residency, I guess, could apply to anything because you could be hired to then do X amount of time at a facility, which would be the same as a doctor going to a residency and having to do two years there. So I think it really just means like you're stuck with us and you have to work for us. Got it your time in, essentially. All right. Yeah. ⁓ all right, let's talk about a little bit about who we are. Okay. Yep. So I'll talk about me. So of course we're both millennials. Yep. ⁓ I am a horror movie enthusiast and of course addicted to Bravo. All reality TV is fine. I would say that it all started when I was a kid back in the 90s when you were sick. You'd watch TV while your parents were gone, and the only thing that was on Do you know what I'm gonna say? Soap operas? Jerry fucking Springer. Jerry Springer, yeah. That's all. So that was like the first like reality TV that like hit me and I was like, I love this. Right. It wasn't until like probably six, seven, eight years later that when you'd go and get sick and stay home, it would be like Real Housewives. Right. And I See, I think I was watching the prices right sometimes too. Yeah, you've always been into stuff like that. Yeah. ⁓ when did you get into Bravo? Do you remember? Was it Housewives or did something else get you there? I think it was Housewives and I think it was OC but I don't think I was as early as you. ⁓ right. I think I just had like the awkward phase of when I was done with cartoons. ⁓ but I think your mom too, right? Your mom was She always had it on. Yeah. But like she just loved soap operas. Like what's that wicked like ⁓ Days of Our Lives? Yes. But I I actually love that shit too. Really? To this day? No. Okay. No. It's on on the gym and I'm like, whoa, flashback, don't leave that in my life. ⁓ but that's pretty much who I am. Yeah, and you know, I am, as she said, a psychiatric nurse practitioner and so ⁓ other than that, that's that's pretty much it is my whole life. Pretty much now. Okay. ⁓ going through a little rough patch in my life right now, but you know, we're just we love the drama of reality TV, we love Bravo, and we both said, Why the hell would we not do this? Because like, why not? Yeah. Yeah, and I I think that that's a good point too. Like our lives even when they are chaotic and very stressful, like this is an outlet. Right. For me. Exactly. Like watching these people tear each other apart or and then the next season mend it. It's the whole lore. Right. You can put your shit aside and be like, ⁓ someone else is like literally way more fucked up than I am. It can always be worse, right? Always be worse, literally. And th I'd say that this ⁓ finale of Summer House certainly proved that. ⁓ my god. It can always be worse and guess what? It gets worse. ⁓ my god, it's so wild. So we are going to be starting this podcast off by picking up from the finale of Summer House, but also we'll be talking about In the City, the premiere. Right. Yeah. And maybe once a week we'll be posting. That's the hope, but don't hold us to that. People have lives, people have jobs. She has a child. Like there's a lot going on here. It's on and popping right now. Yeah. So, but we will try. Yeah. ⁓ so with with like In the City and Summer House, I really liked the seamless transition. And just as like a reminder, there's a this is like a whole empire built off of an empire built off of an empire. It started with we had Beverly Hills and that finale episode went into the first season of Vanderpump Rules (VPR) True. Then they did that we've been doing this for a while. They did this like slide in. But listen, it gets so much crazier because then they did that with the end of ⁓ VPR, they showed the first season of Summer House. or was it the Valley? It it's also the Valley, but that's not and I actually don't know if that's true. No? But they definitely But aren't those connected? Because then like Jax and like everyone But Jax wasn't in the last season of Right, but I mean when they started. ⁓ maybe he w was he? When I say transition, I mean they'll have the episode. in real time and people watch it. Yeah. And then all of a sudden the next episode, so it's summer house and In the City and then they'll go into but you don't know where one starts and where one ends. It's a scene. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like with this one, Summerhouse ended, you saw the car scene at the house, and then you go back to that car scene at the summer house and the car's driving away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every single one of these transitions has been freaking flawless. Yeah. So producers I'll I'll definitely give that. Although they're kinda sketchy too the way that they do things. So I won't give them too much credit here. Well I mean they kinda ruin people's lives. Yeah, I'll give credit where where credit is due. Danny and Nia will attest to that right now with the debacle going on with that, which we'll have to cover at some point. but ⁓ am I not we can talk about that real quick. Did you watch the last episode how he smoked? I haven't, but I've seen all the other ones and I am like, dude, are you realizing like they pick certain clips of what they're filming you? So like You know you're on a reality T V show and how many seasons are we at with the Valley? Like three? Four or four or something. Yeah. So like you know this, so like be on point at all times when those cameras are up. But they usually dead. But they have the last three seasons, but it was clear that it was an act. And I think that's why ⁓ Janet was getting so mad because she's like, I know you guys in real life, like you're not perfect. In fact, you might be more damaged than any of us. Right, right. I know. I feel bad for her because she's like literally, I think, just like a baby making machine and the most beautiful woman. ⁓ my god, and she's in the world. Literally the sweetest person in the world. Did you see that ⁓ her post about the Uber incident or Lyft? I don't know if it was Uber or Lyft. What? Yeah, she had like a horrible Uber incident, and like the guy was super mean, and she ended up like posting and like tagging Uber and like because they blocked her from getting any Ubers and she's I can't not have anywhere. I'm literally traveling for work. Yeah, it was it was literally wild, but they did apologize and she's fine. But good for her. Yeah. Good. I hope she gets free Ubers for a full year. Literally. And then did you ⁓ no, maybe I listen to Giggly Squad like old episodes right now, so there was an Uber incident. Are you re are you re listening? Well no, so I am terrible and like kinda jumped in halfway through. So now I'm like going back and I'm listening from the very beginning. ⁓ 'cause you're yeah. So I'm at like twenty twenty four right now. ⁓ my god. But I'm also listening to new ones. So it's I can't believe so it Starting from the beginning is so exciting. They'd be so mad if they knew that we were talking about this. I know. Because they're like, Don't go from the beginning. I know. I started from the beginning and so good. But I like I only fell into it because Hannah had left Summer House and like all that stuff with like Paige possibly leaving even though she didn't leave that year. Right. And I was like But she kinda like was gone because she really wasn't She was like mentally clapped out. Yeah, she was just in bed there the entire time. Yeah, which is fine. I love that for her. Right. ⁓ Anyways, enough about this is out of control. ⁓ okay Yeah, so let's get into this final episode because this was literally insane. But that party looked fucking sick. Like if I could have gone to a party like that, it we say all the time, so we are from Massachusetts. Right, yeah, we should So like this is yeah, I should have started that. That's the like the wicked messy thing that you guys will catch on. ⁓ But I can tell you that first of all Aren't they hot? I know. That's not far from us. I know. Ciara was wearing those huge like boots which I really liked, but I'm like, did you buy those just for the episode? She had to. Where is she? She's from Georgia. Although she did visit Luke in Minnesota. True. For a while she bought that. Don't forget me to bring h don't let me forget to bring him up because I recently just came across my feed in one of the h him running for office. Did you see the thing he just posted the video of him going into File to be a candidate? No. And what he's wearing. He's wearing a sweater with jeans and his hair is bleach blonde and I'm like he done his hair blonde. That's what it looked like. You know, I it's so true. Okay, so th do we agree it definitely felt like a funeral, not a finale. A funeral for the series, a funeral for the relationships, and even Ciara and Amanda knowing what we know now. Yeah. It was just I was like mourning for Ciara. I know, and it was so interesting that they were bawling their eyes out at the end there together, and I'm like, ⁓ my god, but we'll get there. But so this episode starts off with the Apres ski Apres. I was gonna say, how do you say that? no, I don't I don't I think it's Apres. Okay. ⁓ my god, we're gonna get called out that! ⁓ Yeah, like that was a ⁓ fucking thing ever. I don't think we ever went skiing. No, I would die. I think my rich friend was like, Hey, you wanna come? And I'm like, What's that? What? Skiing. ⁓ but yeah, so I don't know if you picked up on this, but during the party in one of the scenes where the the camera's like behind everyone and like you see they'll point to people. Amanda kisses Jesse like on the cheek, but it makes it looks like she's literally trying to get to his lips and even Jesse pulls away. And I thought that was the most bizarre thing. I'm like, this girl is literally all over the place right now. Are you talking about when she like kind of grabs him closer and was like, Yes. What did she say? She was like "Nothing beats this." You're In the City. Yes. I saw that. But like the kiss happens, then she says that and Jesse was kinda like, What the fuck are you doing? I think this chick is balls to the wall, bro. Jesse is going through it, like in terms of like his evolution on this show. Like he started off as like goofy, but then like when you know, kind of goofy, silly guy, and then everyone found out that he had cancer at one point and like you start taking it more seriously. Yeah. Then the whole thing with Lexi where you're like, ⁓ no, you maybe you are a piece of shit, maybe she is. We don't really know. Yeah. But now it's like I feel like he's almost like saying things that I'm thinking. Like he's acting how like you would hope he would act. Yeah, what did he say at one point in this episode? He was like, I don't even know what's going on anymore. ⁓ when he was like in the fucking twilight zone. Okay, yeah. I did catch that though. I did catch that. And I was like, yeah. And real I have to say too, I and I'm not even exaggerating, have not seen Amanda that happy at one of the parties. And you're the sh What's the difference? What's the the difference is she already knew I might as well have fun because I was I'm not letting I'm not letting Kyle make me upset because I'm done with Kyle. Yeah, well she was already done. I think she was already She's done it every year. It's you have to admit it felt different. I know, and that's the thing. She makes all these comments. I've been trying so hard and I'm like, but like, okay, I d I don't know. And we only see a part of things, so I do have to remind myself of that, but like still I'm like, mm, I don't know. It's hard too because Kyle's demeanor, like when he's not calling her a bitch and being a piece of shit husband. It's just fun and nice and sweet, and it's and she is a little they don't the producers don't at least show her being bubbly and funny. That's not her brand on the show. And whether or not that's the truth, it's what we see. Right. ⁓ god. ⁓ god. Well, ⁓ everyone meet ⁓ who I call Doctor Lucy, ⁓ the doctor of nothing. The Lucy is her nickname. ⁓ Lucy, we are ⁓ attending to business here and we can't step on that and none of this. Okay. Well anyways, we'll just ignore you. Okay. ⁓ security Bailey. anyways, ⁓ there's also a cat named Belle here. So we have Bailey the dog, Lucy the cat, ⁓ Belle the cat, and that's that. And that's everyone. ⁓ but I have a question for you on this episode, starting off this party. ⁓ Ciara's makeup, was that on purpose to make it look like she had ski goggles on? I'm so glad that you said something because I believe that her you're talking about like the white. The white, yes. Doesn't that remind you of the Kim K stuff? You bought me like 20 fucking. So the makeup like that. Setting powder. Yeah. I think that she used setting powder and I think of the it's But that's on purpose. Yeah, for like that look because then if you think about when her, Mia and Amanda were talking, Amanda also had it, but she also had the white flakes. The white eyeshadow on. I mean eye ⁓ mascara. Which that made sense, but I was like, did she just like put too much or like is that supposed to be a ski goggle look? I don't know. I thought I was getting I was getting like I was getting like snow girly. Yeah. Well have you ever well, we just said no, but if you go skiing and it's a sunny day, like you take your goggles off and that's what it looks like. ⁓ So it's like a sunburn. ⁓ it's like a funny reference that she's not trying to think. That's what I think. Because I can't imagine she would do her makeup like that. She's never done her makeup like that. ⁓ it's definitely not like there's no way she did that to like look good. It was on theme somehow. But I think that's something that went over my head. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ she looked great though. She did always. But what was Kyle wearing? Okay. So I I So with Kyle, okay. So I didn't even take notes on His and Ciara's talk in the truth of circle, the friggin' igloo that he set up. ⁓ yeah. Like and that way when they were sitting at the chairs? Yeah. The beginning of yeah. But I mean it really was just like you guys should separate. Well, right, but I I blacked out because I couldn't focus because I was staring at Kyle's outfit. No. It's five thousand degrees and he's wearing the heaviest jacket. It's like a fur vest. A fur giant vest. It was very Viking. And then he had the shorts. With work boots on, with long socks and a flannel. And under the flannel it looks like some kind of tropical shirt. Yeah, he's literally out of his mind. And I was like, I And he was already like hammered at that point in the episode. I could not take it seriously. He looked insane. Yeah, that was literally insane. ⁓ my god though do you remember this wasn't last week's episode but I don't think I talked to you about this. I think The week bef the week before this week, Dara, KJ's gal, yeah that West used to hook up with. Wait, what? Do you didn't know that? Maybe not Sabrina, not Sabrina. Dara, KJ. ⁓ right, because when she came to the first party, he was like, We used to hook up. But then she was hanging out with KJ. Well she said herself, like, I dated West and Great guy to be friends with, but he'll break your heart or some bullshit. Anyway, so it's just the two of them and he sees her in her little outfit and he goes, "Wow, that's the best outfit I've seen all night." So I saw that on a video on Instagram but I didn't actually I must have missed it in the episode and I watched it literally three times, so I don't know how that's possible. But this episode it was the Right, it was the preview, wasn't it? Right before the finale. So last week's ⁓ it's the end of the very end of the finance. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's disgusting. And her and her outfit looked great, but it's like, isn't KJ your boy? Exactly. Like he doesn't care. You really just want her to be in your web. Like he just wants to cut anyone in his way, like he does not care. Like And slap in the face to Ciara, the queen of fucking costumes. I know. Like I'd be like I know, but Ciara doesn't go for hot ever. She doesn't need to. I know. She goes like the fucking opposite way. I mean she she looked pretty fucking hot. in this episode, and that's the one that he commented on. So why don't you shut your little mouth, West! Yeah, I know he's an asshole. But yeah, that's all I really got from that. Was Kyle's outfit. He's upset, and he pretty much gets Ciara to admit that she mentioned that perhaps they should separate. Right. Right. Which Amanda throws Ciara under the bus later when Kyle asks. I know. I literally watched it two times to be like, I there's no way I heard that, right? Yeah. She's well, "Ciara said that." I was not even considering it. I'm like, ⁓ my But then later she's like, "you guys say whatever I think and feel." It's like, girl, you gotta put your big pants on here. Come on. If this if Westgate never happened and I was here and I still saw that, I'd be like, what are you doing? I know. I would literally kill her if I was Ciara That's another story. ⁓ so then we moved to I don't know if you have anything else about that party or anything. a little bit. So speaker-1: Gracias. speaker-0: On the party. So well I just want to mention also at the party, girls were freaking surrounding the guys. Like West and Jesse, like towards the end when people were leaving, they had like crowds of girls as if they were like A-list celebrities. Well, obviously, I mean you're at a party, you're drunk, and these people are on TV. But these people at the parties are supposed to be friends I don't know. I don't think they're actually friends. I think they maybe invite like 'cause how many friends can they actually have? And then you have like friends of friends who invite their friends and they're coming with three or four people. So you're saying there's hope we can we can ⁓ get on these parties. Yeah, I'm sure!! *WHAT?!?* But I think the house is being sold sold now. I think they sold it. What was that? It was a demon coming out of her. I was gonna say, I ⁓ No. It's getting sold or at least Airbnb'd. And that's the thing, it's like when they came out with In the City, yeah, there's no way that they like the people in Summer House weren't like this is the end of an era. I know. But they didn't even tell the VPR cast that but they were rebooting. Are definitely coming back with Summer House. I just have a feeling it might be somewhere else because I saw something about like them casting people. Well it can't be Ciara because she ⁓ singing after Songhouse. I don't think any of them. Do you know that there was supposed to be a summer house at Ozarks? And West is supposed to be the connector of friends? Wait, maybe that's what I'm talking about. ⁓ god, I hope you're wrong. I know, and I hope it's not because he's just such a messy mess. And does that mean Amanda would be on it because West is on it? Ha ha ha ha. I mean at this point she'd have to. Alright, was this from the party when Mia, Amanda, and Ciara were all huddled together and she's like sitting at the lawn chairs? So that is a little bit later, I think. Because I thought they were dressed up. Well, so no no no, it's during the party for sure. But we're also missing fucking Lindsay and Girl's conversation. ⁓ no no no. We're we're we're st we're still there. Okay. Okay. Alright, so ⁓ what we'll we'll talk about. Wait, so what ⁓ I like how you organize this, okay. Yeah, so I I think just taught like The people just kind of going over situations is just gonna be easier than ⁓ whatever the fuck we're doing right now. Because I did like ⁓ this is what happened in the episode. ⁓ I started to do that too, and I was like, This is I'm gonna talk for three hours if I do it this way. I know, I know. ⁓ okay, so Lindsay and Carl. ⁓ my god. This was in the igloo of trust. Yes. Kyle's igloo. But did you see Carl's face and him gulp down every breath of air he could get when she was like, Can we talk? ⁓ wow Yeah, he literally was like, you and and you know that like production like tells them ahead of time like this is what we're doing for these days. I guarantee they did not have them to talk on the bus. Yes. No. Lindsay self-produced and she said, Carl's right there, and I'm gonna get him. Right. And I'm gonna put his feet to the fire. Lindsay's a boss. I love her. Yeah. However, I mean I'd say they both, when they sat down, white flags were up. Weapons were down, like it felt Yeah. It felt like they really weren't expecting to have this conversation and that it was the first time that they had actually had this conversation. It's not like they had it off camera and then production was like, You guys need to talk. For sure. This felt like I actually had chills. No, I know, I know. This is Crazy. But do you agree with what Lindsay's saying? Like, I understand you're hurt because her ⁓ his mom like didn't reach out for like a month and like whatnot, but like, I don't know. I feel like it's like this is his elderly mother, like she's older. Let it go. She's asking about your baby. Like, that's really nice. Like, I don't know. I wasn't really on team Lindsay for that one. Cause I'm like, why are you saying this to Carl when it's his mom? And like What's he going to do then? Go back to mom and be like, ⁓ my god, you need to apologize to Lindsay. Like you didn't even and she goes, I don't think anything was being clocked. ⁓ my god. ⁓ Dude. I I agree. And the thing is, it's like Lindsay pretty much like went after the mom at Carl's opening. Yeah. Well, she would have ignored her unless the mom came up. Right. But it's like Carl's mom was just being nice. And she didn't even get the digs that Lindsay was doing. Like Lindsay was like mean, just like me. Maybe we should be sitting across from each other the next time because we're like Yeah, this is really close. No, not at all. but So I'm just not gonna look at you. Okay. ⁓ I think my side profile's probably better than my front, so I don't know what we're doing now. Not not me. We'll find out. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ no, but Lindsay Definitely was pissed with Carl's mom. Yeah. And although I was like, What did we find out this information before this moment when she was like, Yeah, like you guys, you and your family still went to like our wedding venue. Yeah. And she was dancing the night away with Scheana That was messed up. But Scheana ⁓ I know, she literally comments on everything. She's like all over Giggly Squad stuff and like Paige and Hannah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ my gosh. She's like obsessed with them and like they love her too, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, that's weird. I mean I I I love wine. I don't know they really do though. Cause she knows like I don't know. Like I don't know. I feel like they're like Stasi gals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Will you pass me the wine? We have to ⁓ pour another glass 'cause I'm drinking and I don't know what my cat's doing. ⁓ they're fighting, they're fighting. Guys, it's crazy that you're out drinking me right now. It is. Because you were essentially ⁓ a non drinker for two years. Sober for four and a half years almost. ⁓ by choice. Yeah. Yeah, not not for any reason. Okay. Alright, so I I'd say in general. Yeah. It was a really mature conversation. Yeah. But I thought Lindsay when because Carl's response to everything Lindsay said was like, I'm so happy you are informing me of this. I had no idea. I'm learning a lot right now. Those are the things he said and I'm like, Carl, what Carl, it's not about the acknowledgment. It's like just say like, ⁓ my god, I'm so sorry. And then what did he say? He was pretty much like you were the one that pushed me to figure my stuff out and when you're good, you're really good. Or something like that. Yeah, he said a couple of nice things, but his whole response was just like so like, ⁓ thank you for teaching me and like Lindsay's face, I thought she was gonna lose it at one point. And then she softened it fallen it felt ⁓ It did, but like I think at first when he was like, ⁓ my god, I'm so glad you're teaching me like I'm learning this and like blah blah blah. Her face looked like she was about to like lose her shit and be like, Are you fucking kidding me, Carl? Like, did you hear anything I said? Because you haven't responded to any of it yet. And you've already said like four sentences. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's and the thing is like Carl is Carl sweet now, but I will never forget season one through four Carl. ⁓ People just like people have no idea. I'm like, guys, like ⁓ Bailey Bailey on the show. Bailey on the show. Yeah, I know. She's like, he's the sweetest man ever, blah blah blah. And maybe he is, it's not the point, but I'm like, imagine if you knew season one curl. Yeah, yeah, I know. Carl with the twins? ⁓ my god everything, everything. I'm like never never forget. ⁓ never forgetting he was kind of an asshole. Wicked. Yeah. Never But what is he chugging at the Aprayski party? He was chugging and I'm like, dude, you don't even drink. What is Defin definitely like a non alcoholic. Like a THC or something too. Smoke? I don't know. I'd like to know that. Me too. Not that I can't. Like what is sober? Because I don't know. Well, it's it's hard. I mean if he was like if this was like the VPR cast, I'd like, Yeah, he's smoking weed. Yeah. But who knows? A little different in New York. Yeah, yeah, the can turn, so I was like, But wait, going back to Carl, why did nothing happen with him and Bailey? I don't understand that. Is he not really into her? Because she clearly was like, dude, let's make out that last episode when they were fighting. Something is weird. Something's off. Yeah, don't understand that. Why would he not do it? Lindsay also said that when they were engaged, they did not sleep together. I don't wanna be I don't hiding. I don't wanna throw anything out, but I do have to say He is a guy's guy. But the thing is, if you look at season one through four, like He's sleeping with everybody. He was girl crazy. The math aint mathing, and I don't know. No. But something is off and I Bailey is sweet and beautiful and funny. And everything that he claims he's been looking for in the last few years. I really like her. And I believe that she was interested, but there must be some tomfoolery of what they're asking of the cast members, like, hey, force this to work. Because it's like, how do you not end up ⁓ Or even sleeping in the same bed together. It's Right. But maybe Carl's like, I did this before and I'm not putting myself into another situation. If this goes sour, I don't need the stress. I'm finally the good guy again. And I think he maybe he was focusing on soft bar at that point because softbar like hard launched recently, right? So I can imagine this was all in the works while they were filming. Right. Right. So maybe that's why. Maybe his head was just somewhere else. Well his head definitely was not in But guys are not like that. Like they don't Listen, his head was not In the City because he was not asked to go. But wait, how old is he? 45? I mean, ⁓ Kyle's forty-three. Kyle made a statement that he's 43 and he's been on Summer House for 25 years or something, and I speaker-1: Dude, what? There's not been that many seasons. speaker-0: He said so there's been ten seasons. So if he's forty three, then that would have been his thirties. His statement was I've been coming to the Hamptons since I was in my twenties. That's what it was. Which is a really good way to like hide the fact that it's like n you know, we're not talking about that. We're just talking about like you coming to the Hamptons in general. Like are you not allowed to go by? What you mean to say is the last ten years you've been on this like exactly? Well, we're on season ten. So true, yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ my god. You're so smart. I know. So yeah. ⁓ that's all I have to note about the party. I don't really have much aside from the leaving scene. No, I I yeah. Can I tell you that wait you don't have much about ⁓ the last episode? About the the party. ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do you have anything besides ⁓ the le you know what was crazy to me? What? When West so you know, how's Sabrina? I literally just read that statement. Sabrina is giggling with Ciara and ⁓ they're like besties. Yep. Like they're obsessed. Which was like behind the scenes besties that we didn't really see on camera. No. And we deserve that. Yeah. Because it's one thing to just assume Sabrina's crazy and latching on, but you can tell by Ciara's confessionals, like she's not letting this girl look crazy. She's like, no, I really like her. No, she loves her. So she was like, No, this is my girl. Someone like Sabrina, who's a little bit kooky, unbelievably stunning, and just authentically themselves and not doing anything to look better or worse, is reality TV gold. Right, but is Sabrina just drunk all the time? No, I don't think so. Okay. Wait, so were you going to sound like a big smoker? Yeah, that's true. D were you going to say the comment that West said to Ben about Sabrina? don't let her like push us together. Talking about Sabrina talking to Ciara. Yeah, and pushing w ⁓ West ⁓ and Ciara together. Yes, he's pretty much saying And I was like, dude, how much more can you blow up your own spot? Well he's talking about I don't wanna like hurt her or anything. Well no I have the quote "Last thing I want is her heart broken." That's Really? What are you doing? And everybody knows that's code. Like if you're worried about them protecting, like having to protect their heart and not worry about you getting hurt, that's ⁓ they care. They're more into me than I am to them. Yeah. speaker-1: What he said speaker-0: I could not believe he said that out loud. Like your mic's on, do you know that? I know. It's like yikes. Do they forget because they're drunk?! I mean, I feel like I try and think about that. Like if I was at a party back in my well then they're not young, but let's say back in our twenties, would I remember that this camera's probably right? Because and you're mic'd up because There's cameramen walking around. So it's like a constant reminder. In my opinion, there's a difference between someone like Kyle and someone like West because Kyle's been doing it for years before social media was even a huge thing. He knows the name of the game. Yeah. West is someone that is hyper aware of what the audience thinks. Well, that's the thing. I don't even think West actually gets drunk at these parties. I think he is like actually like he was speaker-1: Actually that's dry. speaker-0: Freaking hammered toward they were up until six in the morning. Yeah. I want to end, I feel like, but like I feel like he is like he keeps it to this point where he's not like trashed falling over so that he like knows and is aware. Yeah. I don't know, he's sketchy. But I did catch him being like, I'm not like wanting to be a boyfriend and then three hours later I've never been able to say that before. speaker-1: Yeah dude cause you're fucking someone's wife. speaker-0: Yeah. Honey. Dude, he yeah. But then I ⁓ I don't want to be a boyfriend. He was acting like a boyfriend at 2 a.m. No kidding. I can tell you that best boyfriend ever. Kiss cuddles by the fire. Yeah, and where was Amanda at that point? But wait a minute, wait a minute. This poor girl Levi, Danny Pellegrino keeps talking about this too, and I I f I know. Why did they do speaker-1: No kidding. Any I feel so fucking bad. speaker-0: Like she's cut out. She wasn't a part of the r reunion. And then you let her randomly at parties. And then you let her jump into the pool with the cast? No ⁓ so do you know, I don't know if this is true, but ⁓ is a possibility that Levi this whole time actually went to the reunion and they just cut her out of the whole thing. You think? So I was listening to ⁓ it was Danny Pellegrino. I was w listening to someone and they were saying that a different franchise ⁓ had happened before. ⁓ yeah, I think they've done it to a bunch of people before in other So I hope they don't do that to Levi. And the thing is ⁓ they are. They already did. I mean she's cut out of most of it. She's the whole season, but she's barely on television and she's not. But are they not asking her to come back? Or is she there and they're actually cutting her out? Can they get rid of the cutout of her face if she's no longer in that none of it makes any sense. It's very I can't imagine what that feels like to like be so excited that you're on a show and then you watch it and your family watches it, like Danny said. speaker-1: a part of the fucking whole not even really there. speaker-0: And they're pretty much saying they're not interesting enough. Yeah. And yet they're having weird. And yet they're having a Dara and friggin' I know Sabrina. Which I don't care, but I'm just saying it's like those people weren't even clocked in to come to work and now you're giving them your cli b Levi's job. Doesn't make any sense. Right. ⁓ Wait, was it at the party when Ben kissed Kyle in the cheek? It was. I think Ben speaker-1: Ben is bisexual because Ben, did you see last episode when Kyle was crying? speaker-0: Crying in the closet and Ben was like rubbing his Well Right. And now we have proof to I'm sh I'm sh Yeah, he sucks. I don't like him one bit. All right. And I think he has a crush on Kyle. And Mia, voice of the people. Mia is Yeah, she's cool. I like Mia a lot. She was like, ⁓ would you come in last night? Ciara was like 6 AM. Mia was like, Who were you with? I know. Why even ask the question? And then Ciara was like West. And like the look. And she's and we made out. And she tossed her glasses. I was like, this is amazing. Yeah. No, she's a cool chick. She's a real friend. She really is. ⁓ was it yeah, she saw a psychic, right? On one of these parties. That had me in tears because I was like, ⁓ my god, did I even tell you? So, guys, ⁓ my mom passed away ⁓ four years ago, actually on the 14th of this month. And I have not been to a psychic, so when I saw Mia Seeing a psychic and getting those messages from her mom, I was like, ⁓ my god, and I have booked one for June fifteenth. Did I tell that? Where? Providence. Some chick named Melissa. I've been following her on Instagram. She's super good. ⁓ my gosh. She like connects with animals. Wait, when are you ⁓ really? Yeah. Yeah. We should do one for our dogs. I know. Well mine's alive. I'm thinking of a pet psychic. Yeah, when they die. No, like when they're alive. ⁓ like a co like they can talk through them. No, this is like dead. Like a like a chicken came through. She was like, Is anyone in here? ⁓ Chicken? speaker-1: ⁓ I'm getting a chicken. Does someone have chicken ashes on their mantle? And someone was like, me. What? speaker-0: And they had like eighteen thousand chickens in their lives. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so anyways, but that yeah, that really touched me. So when is that gonna happen? Fifteenth of June. So soon weeks. ⁓ my god, I can't wait. It's literally the end of May right now, so 22nd. Do you think there's a possibility that your sister is gonna come over instead? I hope they both do. Honestly. You know? I don't think I've ever been to a medium and them say no one has come through. Like every single time Nana comes through. speaker-1: Like three four speaker-0: ⁓ which is crazy though because now I have my other grandmother too. So I have both grandmothers, my gr our papa, my sister, my mom. But there's a big question I have for my mom, but we're not gonna bring that up. That's classified. Classified. Alright. Yeah, I agree. That scene made me cry. Every time she talks about the dreams with her parents, it just like speaker-1: Yeah, because Classified. speaker-0: And this poor girl has like this guy that she loves and he's just never around 'cause he's building a future for them, but it's like, is he gonna do this forever? Which is like but I always wonder like, okay, but like then you're actually spending time with someone to know if that's really who you truly wanna be with th for the rest of your life. Well the thing is too, it's like if she could have a guarantee, like I'm just opening these up to make our life better and once things settle speaker-1: Nice. Not really. speaker-0: I'll be yours. Usually in the restaurant industry, once you get a taste of blood, you want to keep opening, keep going, keep going, keep going. And Mia Smart, and I'm sure that she knows that better than anyone. Absolutely. Absolutely. what else? What about Yeah, so West and Ciara making out that was wild. That made me uncomfortable too. I'm like, I don't want to see this. This poor girl. She needs she was she like punched him in the face or like said, I'm never gonna speak to you again. Yeah, it's gross. And then ⁓ I had a w ⁓ Kyle. What? Just goes out that night. I know. Comes back at six AM. I'm glad he did at this point. I'm glad he did. I'm glad he did. WAIT A MINUTE!! I don't know if this came on but he disclosed that I think it was on the city. ⁓ hello there. Hi, Yes. ⁓ speaker-1: Please. Wait a Start. speaker-0: He disclosed that he has not been paying himself a salary from Loverboy, and that is the reason he's DJing. But then we also get insight into that a bills. It's In the City. He paid her charged her back rent a hundred and fifteen thousand dollars or something. Be mad at your husband DJing and yes, he's made questionable choices and whatever has come out and you've been sent and he his company's going under that you guys are doing. speaker-1: Amanda has not paid any. How can you ⁓ But if he's paying the bills speaker-0: Like, can you give him some slack? speaker-1: 'Cause he's DJing to pay the bills so you can have a place. speaker-0: Yeah, but he picked the one career. Yeah, like what the fuck else is he gonna do? Figure it out. Not drink. Not drink. I'd be p I'd be pissed too. I I gotta be honest, I'd be a little pissy too. No, yeah, I definitely wouldn't be happy, but if I had known those circumstances like I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. No no no. Right. You know? So. ⁓ Yeah. I mean I we just clearly And New York is expensive anything. So I think it r when Kyle I don't think it was this episode, but Kyle did say at one point he was like, ⁓ you know, sh Amanda can't do anything herself. Yeah. I think she was just fine letting him take care of everything and they're married. Like I it's very normal for one person to pay and one person not to pay. But when the person literally like speaker-1: But why wasn't she paying it? 'Cause she's making all these brand deals. speaker-0: Disp like you you guys didn't even have a prenup. Like how do you do that when you don't didn't even like each other when you got married? That's like my big like whoa. Yeah, well, yeah, and he was cheating on her before he got married. So that's So let let's talk about that conversation at the end and then get into In the City 'cause I think we've been recording for like two hours. No, we I don't think so. I think it's been like fifty minutes, but yeah, it's been long. That is true that ⁓ yeah, but we're gonna have to edit some out too. But ⁓ wait a minute, wait a minute. Summer house when they're all saying goodbye. Yeah. ⁓ I know what you're gonna say. speaker-1: THE FUCKING West and Amanda hug ⁓ he's and I picked up on this speaker-0: I picked up a West, I know what you're doing. So he wants to fuck. Yeah. speaker-1: Girl that he hugs them face to face. speaker-0: To face, like their faces on girls, he doesn't turns his head the other way and goes the opposite side. Watch it with Ciara. He did the same type of hug where they're they were touching their cheeks. Amanda the same thing. I thought he was gonna fucking make out with her and that foyer. Foyer? Foyer foyer. Mia looks the other way, opposite ⁓ faces don't touch, and I'm like, ⁓ and then Amanda's face. Dude, I literally was like speaker-1: And Face ⁓ DOOO speaker-0: Holy shit, you've been caught guys! speaker-1: must be so crazy for Ciara now watching have never thought anything of. speaker-0: that back being like I would have that but now I know Kyle he's a I saw that hug I was like ⁓ my god and that's the thing I do firmly believe that Amanda and West were not having an affair but it was an emotional entanglement that was clearly starting. I think they had really yeah I think they had done something sexual at that point. Absolutely don't I really don't I think because how can speaker-1: Could it not be you're that deep in already, you're you're gonna speaker-0: Like if Slip up on TV. But they're but they're not. I don't believe that they only started talking one month before the rumors came out. Yeah, definitely not. But I I don't think that they were sleeping together. I think that what we're seeing in real time watching these shows is West planting seeds and Amanda picking up the breadcrumbs. It's like who knows after w she said once she was done she went to a hotel room two days. I know. It could have started the second she got there. I don't know. I just don't I don't I don't see it. I I I I see them talking about liking each other and coming up with a game plan, but I don't I don't know if it's I don't know. ⁓ 'cause don't you think S West would have gone after Ciara Harder? I don't know. I think he would None of it makes any sense. I think he like even in his reaction. I don't know. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? 'Cause he's West. Yeah. Yeah. It's like And you're drunk. Do not. And you just made out and then went to bed. Because Amanda's in the other room. ⁓ That's such a good point!! ⁓ my god, conspiracy theory. That's I mean, that's great. Yep. And the look on Amanda's face when she realized, ⁓ my god, Ciara just popped up was like, Well, we're caught. She saw a ghost. And it's more than a hundred percent emotional. So that was yeah. Yeah. I think everybody caught that 'cause it was so like in your face. I'm like speaker-1: So why did you speaker-0: They even did a little close up. I was like, ⁓ my god. I they did job editing these episodes honestly since everything came out. ⁓ my god. Alright, yeah. So then Kyle and Amanda at the end. They talk and I'm like, you guys had to pick the front stoop to produce the scene. There's like traffic and whatever. I know. Always. Very emotional. Yep. I felt really, really bad for both of them in this moment. Like I know Yeah. Listen, everything Westgate, everything people love to hate on Amanda, but facts are facts. This girl has been feeling empty and lonely for years, holding on to and Kyle says something like this in In the City, a version of Kyle that's been gone for a long time. It is it I felt like I was watching something that I wasn't supposed to be. Yeah, but the thing with you saying that, the version of Kyle, I don't think Kyle has changed. I don't think Kyle has changed at all. I think Kyle was always down for a good time. Last one up making speaker-1: he was always trashed, making poor decisions, and who he ended up in bed speaker-0: was who he ended up in bed with. Like, I mean he was hitting on Stassi in the early episodes in the fucking hot tub. Yeah, I g I guess actually he did even say maybe it was In the City in his own words though, like, or no, Amanda said, he hasn't changed. My reaction to him has changed. Yes. She did. She did. Yeah. But her I think her leaving to the hotel, she's like something's gotta change. Yeah. That is the only way to not fall back into that cycle. Is you have to ⁓ You can't just tell them I'm gonna leave you. Like when it's that bad and you've done this publicly on TV for ten years and you always just you have to literally be like, Hey, I'm leaving. I don't think she's I don't think she ever thought that that would fix the relationship. Like that's a sham. But I can't believe she had the strength to be like, I just filmed for hours and I'm about to get into a car by myself and go to a hotel with no clothes. I know. I know. It takes a lot of balls. But then I was like, she has her stuff that she had at the summer house. ⁓ it definitely wasn't. boy. She ⁓ she was not going home with that man. But I think West was waiting at the hotel. He could have been he could have been. ⁓ but then so okay In the City then they flip to which I didn't like the way they did this. I did not like it. Them having that conversation on the couch and then getting the rewind button. I there was no need. It's it's like let that come organically with the timeline at the end. Exactly, exactly. Cause like if you're like me and you're like doing a puzzle while you're watching, you don't see the rewind. Because you you're listening. I I know. And I didn't like that. But then I didn't like how Amanda was yelling at him. No, I I didn't either. I mean the so In the City, like in general, that f that scene with her showing up to his apartment after the confirmed rumors happened. For sure she looks sickly. For sure. She definitely lost a ton of weight. Yeah, she doesn't look good and I Like that's not cool though. It's like from like a mental health perspective, yeah. Like don't you think that's really bad because the human brain is not created to hear what people are saying behind your back on such a massive scale. It's not normal, it's not natural. Yeah. And ⁓ this happened with the Racquel thing with VPR. It's like, yeah, I know everyone likes to dog pile on, but You just wanna be careful. You just wanna be careful. And no matter what, like they signed up for it, okay, but they don't they don't know what's gonna happen or like that this magnitude was gonna happen to Amanda, like that's insane. Like I imagine being in a city that big and feeling so alone, like forget it. And I was reading that people are like sending her death threats. ⁓ yeah. Like that's like guys, just back off. It's do that animals. It's crazy. I know this guy on speaker-1: Why do people do that? Like you can be in Actually I follow this on Facebook who takes care of his grand Like he wore a shirt from his work and they called his work. And this is about being a caregiver. Like for someone with dementia, why did you call this man's work? ⁓ speaker-0: ⁓ that's nice. Yeah, seriously. ⁓ I've been swearing a lot. I don't think you've dropped one swear. No, I have. Although I have been trying to not. Children? Okay. Okay. So I'd say in general, this episode, it's giving it like separation, it's giving kids, it's giving marriage, it's giving everything that the valley was supposed to give. Yes. And they're freaking failing. Miserably. Yeah, but I don't love the cast of In the City at all. Like Kenny, you can go. I'll set with you. I don't like him at all already. I think I see. Let's talk let's talk about Kenny and his g girlfriend. What is her name? I don't know. I didn't write it down. I forget. I don't know either. I don't know. But I feel bad because ⁓ Oh ⁓ Okay, good. speaker-1: Move. She moves but like and then he's in another scene talking to ⁓ you get this buzz and you feel like it's the right person. ⁓ speaker-0: To Kyle being like But you're not sure why did you have this speaker-1: Who knows? speaker-0: And I really didn't like that Kenny when he was talking to Kyle one on one, he's like, People notice that a man is not around and she doesn't seem happy. But I have my girlfriend is a doll and I've never been happier. I'm like, are you trying to But I'm also not sure. I think he was trying to big dog Kyle with that one. Yeah, but then he was all sketched out when Lindsay was like asking him questions and like, Whoa, she moved across the country and she doesn't have a ring and he's like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, I have a panel of people here! He seems like the type of guy speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: That does not surround himself and this is nothing against Whitney. I'm sure she's sweet. I'm sure she tells him off. Yeah. But people women like Lindsay that are giving that same alpha energy and you're not gonna back down from alpha male energy as a woman. I think he purposefully does not put himself in those situations. Right. He was caught off guard that Lindsay isn't buying his bullshit. I know. I don't think anyone was, and he's gonna feel so silly when he sees himself on TV because it's transparent. You're not you're faking it. Everything is curated and fake. Well, I mean, he's already like building himself up, like I'm this black kid from Ohio. No one ever thought I'd get here. And I'm like, dude, settle down. Like you are not the only one in in New York City, probably. speaker-1: Probably. speaker-0: when ⁓ for Lover Boy. So like Yeah, that was one of the conversations. ⁓ have not given me a financial update since October of twenty twenty five. And it at that point twenty twenty ⁓ or no October 2024 'cause they were filming September 2025 right? Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. speaker-1: And you also you gave Kyle like you're losing a little conversation. He literally said to him It was September speaker-0: So he invested in the in that. ⁓ that's good. I guess. Hopefully they're doing better. Who knows? I mean they're I ch sold out on everything online. Really? Their merch? Their merch, their drinks. Damn. Everything. I know I need the c I actually I put my name in for the waitlist for Carls Carl's mess. but I needed to say my name. I'm like I'm in my mess era. Yeah, yeah, that would be cool if you could just say Carl but then you cross it out and speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Really? ⁓ yeah, Tim literally was like so my birthday and Mother's Day really close together. So I kept like dropping hints to Tim and I was like And just so people like my husband will watch some of these shows not with me, he'll like have his headpawned like earphones. He'll say he's not watching, but he really is. But then he'll like bring up things that I'm like, ⁓ I didn't even catch that. ⁓ dude. So I've been dropping hints, ⁓ Carl's a mess, I wanted that like sweatshirt, like I really wanted it, and he'd be like How much is it? I'd be like, I don't know, like fifty dollars or something. He'd be like I think it was like thirty five. That's like a fad. Like you're not gonna wear it. And I was like, ha ha ha. Like obviously I'm getting it for my birthday. Like I can see And we're gonna wear it every day. ⁓ My birthday comes along. ⁓ did he get for you? No. And then I said, No, Biggie, obviously it's Mother's Day. speaker-1: Wait, did it first? speaker-0: Yeah, he's gonna get it. I didn't get it. And ⁓ now I feel like too much time has passed for me to want it as much as I once did. I'd still buy it, but Well, luckily I put my name on the list so that I could get us both one. ⁓ good, okay. So that was my scheme of the whole thing. Well you just And there's also something else from like the Bravo shop that I wanted to get you that I thought you really liked too. Well don't ruin it. So there's just a lot. Yeah, there's a lot to come. Okay. Yeah, so Yvonne, she seems nice, kinda like her. I did like in the preview that she's about to go hambone on Lindsay, 'cause Lindsay, I feel like, yes, she's in her like come up era, but I also feel like she's like doing too much a little bit. Like you can't always be in control, Lindsay. I I think that like how Summer House is Kyle's show In the City is Lindsay's show. Yeah. Yeah. I think during she was probably already riding the high that she made sure Carl did not get on her ⁓ I think Yeah, but they're like best friends now. W she reminds me of Lala in the sense that it's like you are you know how to turn it on. Yeah. And I need I need to feel like you're not turning it on or off. It's okay to see you like just be a normal person and like not self produce. Right. It's okay her baby is adorable. Baby Gemma is the cutest little girly in all the world, dude. I'm actually shocked though, because I thought there was some battle with the BabyDaddy and him not wanting her on social media media. So he that I don't know the loophole to this, but what I remember hearing is she's not allowed to post Gemma's face on social media. But how social media versus reality TV Yeah because now people are taking videos of the show and then posting them on social media. So now your daughter's on social media. speaker-1: Daddy speaker-0: Unless I mean this is big she was like I can't be on this show unless Gemma is on the show. Like I can't have them edit it out. Like I'm sure she kind of worked something like that with the babydaddy to be like, You're not gonna ruin my career like I'm doing this show. Well if Lindsay is nothing else, she's persistent. She wanted it, she is she she really is. ⁓ think she's had a little bit too much work though. Her eyebrows are really kicking up. ⁓ was like, honey, they're stuck! I was surprised by the work that she had done. And I I And she's so pretty already. She just couldn't really move her face, but not in the Botox way in the filler way. Yes. And I was like, Lindsay, you don't need this. And she's so thin. Like so thin. Yeah, she's it's muscle. You can see that she's working out and stuff. They're big workout people, these people. No. Being skinny isn't a bad thing, you know, if you're working out and stuff. She's definitely taking care of herself. No. ⁓ I don't know. I always worry when they're like in the limelight like that. Like, are you going over the board a little bit? 'Cause like her arms are like tiny. Right, but if she's overweight thin. Liz never been overweight fat or anything. Like now to this extreme I don't know. I just feel like But if it's it is she's truly working out, then this working out. ⁓ right. Like if it's some zempick or something. Is that what you're getting at? Something, I don't know. Yeah. I feel like everyone's like, ⁓ speaker-1: He's been Still little bit. speaker-0: I know, maybe she is, I don't know, but what I can definitely say is like she's Barry's boot camp girl. Like she they work out like Gotcha. They work out like my sister. Like they aren't messing around. I don't know if she still does it, but ⁓ I can say I haven't went to the gym in years. How's it going for you? By the way. Amazing and I'm on like two months straight. I work out at home most of the time though. Today I've walked two miles and I did an arm workout for twenty five minutes. ⁓ my god. Yeah, ⁓ I'm on it. Yeah. She's way ahead of me. ⁓ you know I have to. This is my come up error. But ⁓ yeah, this is Lindsay saying to Kenny, sorry, I have an allergy to what did she say? to annoying men. I'm allergic to annoying men. I was like, ⁓ my god, dude. I was like, get him. He's so annoying. You know who I really liked and she is a star in all senses, is Georgina. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's quirky, she's beautiful, she's a dermatologist. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: And her husband? Wait, wait. But the story. Okay. You say my husband left me pregnant with a two-year-old or whatever with a broken ankle. Yeah. And leaves, but then she says she goes cuckoo. And I should have been on snapped. You know what snapped is, right? Yeah. That show that like women like kill people? Yeah, they kill their husbands. Yeah. He left her pregnant. But what if speaker-1: What is this? ⁓ She means speaker-0: I should have been on snap, so what did she do? No, she means it's crazy that she didn't kill him. She would have been on snapped. Okay. She didn't do anything. But she said she went cuckoo. She was like, ⁓ in the size, I'm surprised I wasn't on snapped. ⁓ I get what you're saying. So that went over my head, I guess. Yeah, that went to But I need to know what does the cuckoo mean. I I just wanna know more. I wanna know everything. I wanna know how pregnant were you, where did you find out when you when he told you that? what was your first move, where'd you go with the kids? I need to like this whole story to be broken so down, I need to know everything. But she's obviously doing amazing 'cause she owns a med spa and she's probably making She's doing amazing. Yeah. Like she is for reality TV. Yeah. Like it's it's giving it's like kind of giving ⁓ Housewives of Salt Lake City, like how Heather has Like it's not that they're the same, but it it can be the same vibe. Like you need someone that like knows how to do the nips and the tucks and hundred percent. Keep ⁓ in the Yeah. Keep ⁓ in your set. I like her. I like her though. I really do. ⁓ so I was confused by the fact that so Amanda and Kyle are going to therapy and then they're fighting on the s speaker-1: and I can't even deal with it. ⁓ NOT A RAINCOAT speaker-0: KYLE!!!!!" ⁓ died. It is a raincoat. It looks just like a raincoat. ⁓ maybe it's a windbreaker. ⁓ mean it looked like a trench coat. It looks like a trench coat. Yeah, which is like for like a businessman. Maybe it was just a water resistant trench coat. I don't know, but I was with Kyle, dude. ⁓ not the problem. That's a that's a pure example. ⁓ speaker-1: No. I'm like, you're Exactly. But then they so they have this this therapy session, they fight in the street, and then snapping over to a scene of them at their four year anniversary dinner and everything's the speaker-0: There Fine. I'm like, what are we doing? ⁓ the dinner. Dinner. And then ⁓ my god, the guy's like speaker-1: What are you guys celebrating? They're like four year anniversary. ⁓ my speaker-0: And then she dies laughing 'cause he's like, ⁓ it's She's like, Ha ha ha You have no idea I'm like speaker-1: Going well. Yeah. The guy's like, Is that telling me anything? It's like speaker-0: This is from our sponsor ⁓ my god. Yeah, that that is hard to watch. And it's literally and he's like, Well if I she's like, I don't want your blessing and he's like, No, right, of course, but like if as long as I'm on board she's like, No and he's like, Well and she's like, I'm doing it I know, I felt bad for Kyle. I really did. I'm glad that she wasn't taking him into account. Because if you remember that beginning epis ⁓ scene speaker-1: Of them talking on hi on his couch, he literally speaker-0: like i if i do something kind it's not to rekindle, it's because I care about you and this is post knowing about West! ⁓ ⁓ knowing what ⁓ me cry? What? And Tim was like, Are you crying? ⁓ speaker-1: Is he even okay there together? speaker-0: When in the beginning when they had that talk and he said someone's getting the version of you that I fell in love with, I teared I did too. I honestly did too. What a freaking profound thing for Kyle Cooke to say. Yeah. Like you couldn't have worded it better. Yeah. That pain is like so unique, I felt really bad. I did feel bad for Kyle. Yeah. In that moment. ⁓ someone I did not feel bad for was Danielle. ⁓ my God. Okay, so you She likes put her boobs away though in that scene in the bar, like honey bunny. Really? Boobs are popping out there about it. I thought they looked ⁓ I'm actually confused. They were just blowin' out. Well, yeah, she's ⁓ I so this I was gonna ask you this. I was hoping you know more than me. Is she ⁓ in that first episode? Because she's never looked better. Talking about having a child. Okay. Remember at the tennis scene? Yeah, you're right. You're right. Unless she didn't I would like ⁓ speaker-1: In that scene? in a year. speaker-0: So she probably did it. She's the skinniest She's the skinniest I've ever seen her. I know. But again, could be the It has to be. Yeah. I'd like to know. If anyone knows, let us know. Yeah, please. ⁓ But she pretty much all the things that she attacked Lindsay for, moving too fast with her boyfriend, getting pregnant and not living together all that stuff it's like literally. You're doing that now. Same thing. And now you're on Lindsay's show. You're in the Dome of Fire, honey! Lindsay's like, what's his name? On? Is it on or off? Is it And she walks over? I'm like, ⁓ oh my god, but I didn't realize Lindsay hated her so much right now. No. But I get it now. But hand job, Carl? You ⁓ hear about this during summer house. It was on like Yeah, Kyle was even like speaker-1: Honor. Hand job from Danielle and why did we not? speaker-0: Seem surprised. ⁓ I don't know why he did. It was on camera. It's like they did it in a car on their way home from the Hamptons. Maybe I do remember. I don't know. That was short. It was like it was shortly before Lindsay got fingered by Carl in the car. Unless that's what I'm thinking of. That's what I'm saying. I don't think the hand job thing was a thing. I don't know. Because Kyle was literally like, What? Like what? That's a hand like Does that anymore? I know. She's a sloppy mess. That's that's what Danielle is. Alright, I want to talk about Andrea and Lexi. God, I forgot about them. ⁓ okay. Listen, Lexi seems lovely, beautiful, sweet, kind, probably the figure out her accent Probably the perfect match for Andrea. Yep. She's no Paigey. No, she's not. No, Or as he says my little one. I know. She's definitely no Paige. I wonder how Paige feels. She never talks about Andrea. She never talks about any I think that she never talks about it, talked about it like in the time 'cause she had respect for him. Yeah. It's like And it was clear. In my opinion, he went on after Winterhouse, he went on Summer House assuming him and Paige were gonna keep it going. Right. He openly admitted in those confessionals that he put Lexi on ice to continue exploring with Paige. And when Paige said I'm picking Craig, he went to Lexi and they got married. I know. Beautiful wedding too. It's Yeah, but I am like it is not Paige. No. I don't I I But which is fun, he's obviously happy, I don't think he's worrying, but if I were Lexi I'd be like, How do I If I were a page, I would have been like, What did I think? speaker-1: What is doing here? Getting married in a castle? speaker-0: Yeah, I can't see Paige getting married somewhere like there. And that man is beautiful. Andre is beautiful, and I have not seen speaker-1: One negative thing on a real speaker-0: Reality TV show for this man. I don't have a bad thing to say about it. No, and that's like, how do you even do that on reality TV? Like how can you be like a legit prince charming? And like that hot. I know. It's like it's not even real. No, but that's why we need to go to Italy. Call Paige, find out what happened. Hello. Giggler calling. but yeah, I just it's it's all and then we end with the threat. speaker-1: That's true. speaker-0: What threat? Of Amanda saying was that the preview or n no, that was the end of the the episode that Amanda was like, if or Kyle was like, No, what a Amanda said, If you do anything. ⁓ "if you come for me, I'll come for you." You are right, that is. Yeah, and he was like, I don't think that's ⁓ whatever he said is. You're not like in a position to say that. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, Is that a threat? Like, dude, yeah, it is. Like, I'm not gonna come for you, but like If you ⁓ like what? Like first of all And you hurt this man's heart. Like chill. It goes both ways, but it's like Kyle is obviously not doesn't seem like the type that would file and go after you behind your back. No. He seems like he'd at least give the heads up. Like when he like I want back rent he obviously said to her like, Hey Which is good. I mean sorry. Like I'm not either you like we work through this or I can like sue you for it, but I don't want to. I don't want to hurt you. I just want to I don't know what New York State is like though with divorces. So he may have actually not gotten paid back. She said in the episode that she paid him. No, I know she did. Yeah. And she was kinda like I don't know, snooty about that. ⁓ She's like, I paid that off. Like no sweat off my back. That's what she said. I'm like, dude, can you chill Dude Lindsay's face when Amanda said at the grocery store like I went to a hotel that night? Yeah. Like that was genuine shock. No. Her shock actually made me shock. I was like, ⁓ this is real shit. Like this really is happening. This was happening in real time. And they had no idea and no heads up at all. So I am just like floored for the reunion. I'm because so ex I'm so excited because now Summer House, yeah we have three part reunion so that gives us about another month or so. But we're gonna be so empty and starving for more information when it ends. But now we have In the City. Right. So right 'cause I don't want Westgate to stop. I want to know what happens after, you know? Yeah, well I don't think they're doing so hot in real life because I don't know. No, I mean of course they're not. Actually, speaking of the reunion, I just saw a video of ⁓ Watts Watch What Happens Live 'cause Kyle and Lindsay were just on it like the other night, if not last night, and Kyle was asked like so what did you think of the reunion taping and like how did you feel? And then when West wasn't says something about West and Amanda kissing. I don't know if was ⁓ on the stage or what, but then I also heard comments that Amanda Kyle says, Well, I thought it was that ⁓ I was like looking around saying, Should I go after Amanda getting up and following her? So I think Amanda at one point exit the the stage crying and West just doesn't move. And I multiple ⁓ clips of speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, why is your man not defending you? Where's your man now? Yeah. Damn. I am so excited. I have a feeling that like they're already like done. I d I don't know. I don't know. I I because how do you publicly announce that and then you're not really seen anywhere together? Well, when she said like you can't help who you like, that's not the wording. It's you can't help who you love. Exactly. So you're not in love. Right. But ⁓ speaker-1: Publicly announce that and then you're not But you're not speaker-0: But I would like it I would at least You can't possibly be in love with this West. This West. What? ⁓ When you have been with this other man and you're in this total tumultuous marriage. Like your brain cannot even handle that. But I wanna but like at least think it's real. ⁓ West thinks anything's real. I he's for come up. he's for the bitches, he wants the party. ⁓ speaker-1: When you have been I think West is for the come up He don't want nothing. Does Amanda think he's going to settle down and what is your life going to be any different with speaker-0: Ciara who's stunning ⁓ speaker-1: Cuckoo thing, I j this just clicked in my head. Why are you going to a speaker-0: Man who literally broke your best friend's heart, so you know this man's track record. You're upset with Kyle because of his track record and you want to get away from this man and out of this marriage to then go possibly pursue because you're at the age where you're gonna be moving towards marriage at some point to then go to this guy. That's the thing, it's I I don't think that Amanda's ever had a big problem with drinking. I think she doesn't like how Kyle acts when he drinks and it made her become the sober one and resentful. Right. I think that she's excited to have someone like a guy that goes out and parties, but I think she's telling herself the same thing that she told speaker-1: Then we speaker-0: In herself in the beginning with Kyle where it's like this is fun, like he'll grow out of it. Yeah. With West. Yeah. It's like, no. But I'm not even just talking about the partying. I'm talking about the girls. West is known for having multiple girls. I how many times does he have girls show up at the parties and he's like, ⁓ I hooked up with her? ⁓ I was talking to her. I they're they're coming out of the woodwork right now. Real saying, like, I just hooked up to them two weeks ago. I mean, what where's Amanda's comment on Ciara and West hanging out post summer house ending? So yeah, there there's just there's a lot to come, but this was absolutely fantastic, you know? And I just had a ball and I drank a lot of wine. You did drink a lot of wine and it is like a time to I know, it's crazy. It's a time to be alive. 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