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Tire Tread Depth for Lockers: How Much Difference is TOO Much? | Jeep Talk Show · Jeep Talk Show

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  (dramatic music)
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  And we're back.
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  This is Tony and, I'm
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  sorry, your name is Josh?
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  Yeah, I know.
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  We just met recently.
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  It's kind of weird.
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  I'm horrible with names too.
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  Well, you know, you're doing
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  such a great tap dancing job
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  in the public bathroom.
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  That it was just, it was bound to happen.
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  Hey.
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  (laughing)
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  That was so strange when
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  that story came out in years.
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  That was so strange
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  when it came out years ago.
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  And thank God, I don't
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  remember anybody tapping
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  while I was in a public bathroom.
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  I hear rest areas are really bad.
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  No, I know.
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  Those long drives.
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  Well, I should say this.
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  I've been on some of those long drives
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  and have had to stop in
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  those rest stops before.
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  And something that's always crossed
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  through my mind is like,
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  okay, while I'm in here,
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  is somebody gonna
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  start doing a tap dance?
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  You know, what's going on?
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  It's a little sand.
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  You got a great place
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  there for a little soft shoe,
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  a little tap dancing.
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  All right, so last week
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  we teased about measuring
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  your tread depth on your tires.
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  And I'd always wondered
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  about four wheel drives,
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  especially when you have lockers.
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  To be safe, I was always
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  thinking to be really critical
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  of the size of each tire,
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  because whenever you
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  lock the axles together,
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  the left and right front and rear tires,
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  then lock those two axles together,
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  it's really important that
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  you don't have slip issues,
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  where the tire actually
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  has to speed up or slow down
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  and chirp a little bit.
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  And I mean, a little
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  bit of that stuff is okay,
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  but if you're really out there,
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  especially if you're
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  driving highway speeds
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  and maybe just two wheel
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  drive, it's not as important.
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  But you know, it's the downside
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  when you go to buy new tires or worse,
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  you damage a tire and
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  now you gotta replace it.
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  How many tires do you buy?
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  Right, yeah, exactly.
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  And especially if
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  you're way down on tread,
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  and I mean, that could be
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  close to a half inch difference.
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  And I always thought
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  that that was kind of like
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  the line of demarcation.
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  You get away with an eighth
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  inch, maybe a quarter inch,
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  you can do a half inch or more,
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  and that's tire size
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  difference at that point.
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  And that could cause issues,
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  but I was kind of surprised to find out
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  that there's a little
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  bit more of a leeway room
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  in tread depth.
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  And I won't go so far as
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  to use the term tire size,
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  but yeah, if you've got 10% on one side
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  and 80% on the other,
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  it's not gonna be the end of the world.
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  Well, we kind of teased this last week.
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  I actually have the exact measurements
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  or the, I mean, I will
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  say a ballpark measurements
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  that I was able to research and find out.
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  It can be a one
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  quarter inch to one half inch
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  in circumference, not
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  diameter, but in circumference
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  because diameter, that would
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  be a much bigger difference.
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  So, you know, if you take the tape
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  and go it around the
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  tire and measure one tire
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  and measure the other tire,
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  if you're within a
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  quarter inch and a half inch,
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  you're okay. Interesting.
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  And it depends on the vehicle.
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  Wouldn't air pressure
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  also come into play here?
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  I would imagine that a
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  difference of 15 or 20 PSI
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  could change that number as well.
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  I don't think it's hypercritical.
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  I didn't see any mention of
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  tire pressure in my research.
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  I mean, certainly if
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  your tire is very, very low,
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  you don't wanna stay aired up on one tire
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  and air down to five
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  PSI on the opposite side.
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  I mean, I think that makes sense.
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  But I think the most,
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  we're gonna assume that the
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  tires are aired up equally
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  between them.
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  So, this is basically say that, you know,
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  you need to make sure your tires
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  are pressurized properly equally
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  and might make sure
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  they're pressurized equally
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  front to back as well.
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  And I think that the Jeep engineers--
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  It's a lot in.
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  I think the Jeep engineers allowed
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  a little bit of play in there
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  so that you don't have to
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  be dead nuts on the mark.
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  So, you know, you get
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  a little play in there.
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  So also too, you can
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  wind up heating things
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  as you can well imagine.
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  The gears, the ring opinion and stuff,
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  you can actually cause
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  heating in those things
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  if you're binding your drive train.
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  Yeah, and you get that
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  differential fluid really hot.
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  And yeah, the same
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  kind of thing can happen
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  with like your transmission
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  or any other kind of lubrication
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  is once that fluid
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  reaches a certain point,
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  we'll call it like the
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  smoke point, if you will,
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  you're gonna start
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  burning that oil, that fluid,
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  and it's gonna lose its viscosity,
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  it's gonna lose its
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  lubrication properties,
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  and you're actually gonna do
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  yourself quite a disservice
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  to your differential if you
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  let those overheat like that.
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  Especially if you're running something
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  like a limited slip differential
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  and you've got traction
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  modifiers in that fluid,
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  temperature sensitivity in
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  that stuff is kinda critical.
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  And so you don't wanna
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  let that stuff get too hot.
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  Yeah, yeah, the
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  friction modifiers are there
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  because there's actually
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  clutches inside of there
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  that kick in
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  depending on whatever you need
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  that extra traction.
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  And it doesn't always work exactly.
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  That's one of the reasons
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  why we like selectable lockers.
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  You hit the button for
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  the selectable lockers,
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  you got a good 99% chance
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  that you got that axle locked together.
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  All right, so--
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  I will say that I've,
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  well, hang on real quick.
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  I was gonna say real quick that I wheeled
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  with several people
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  who've ran and sworn by
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  limited slip differentials
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  and seem to have done
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  quite well with them.
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  And as long as you
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  stay on top of maintenance
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  in the differential and every so often
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  are replacing that fluid
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  and the friction modifiers that go in it,
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  the clutch packs
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  inside those clutch discs
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  inside the limited slip differential
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  can actually live a very, very long time
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  and give you very good
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  performance and longevity.
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  Well, I know my Sport S,
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  whenever I've taken it off road,
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  it does very well.
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  And I believe I've done some stuff
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  that was really easy for me to do
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  when other gladiators
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  were having difficulties.
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  But I have the Sport S Max tow.
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  Yeah, yeah, I have the Sport S Max tow
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  so it has a limited slip
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  differential in the rear.
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  And I think having that
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  limited slip in the rear
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  really has made a difference on things
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  because I've done some
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  stuff that's really easy.
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  And you know, I
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  haven't been off road a lot
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  and certainly, I guess really,
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  I've been off road in the gladiator
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  more than anything else.
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  And it's almost point and shoot.
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  It's really, really,
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  it's a very nice vehicle.
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  All right, so,
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  ideal for strong off-road traction,
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  keep tires at six, 30 seconds or deeper.
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  So we mentioned that
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  there's a tire depth gauge
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  that you can get
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  five, six bucks at Amazon.
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  We'll have the link
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  here in our show notes.
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  And you can just take
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  that little thing out.
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  It's a very simple
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  little thing, has a pin on it,
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  and it will tell you what
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  the depth of your tread is.
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  And you wanna check those.
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  Josh, if you're--
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  Six 30 seconds, six 30
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  seconds seems pretty low.
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  That's what my research is telling me.
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  Practical replacement point,
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  many experts recommend replacing
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  around four 30 seconds for safety.
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  Oh my God.
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  I mean, I think at that point, you're
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  below the tread bar.
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  So on your tire, on every tire,
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  whether it's a highway tire,
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  whether it's a semi-truck tire,
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  whether it's a mud
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  terrain tire, all terrain,
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  every tire manufactured has
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  what is called a tread bar.
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  And there's a small
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  little bar in between the lugs
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  in the middle of the tire
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  that sits just up from
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  the casing, if you will.
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  And so imagine your
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  tire being completely bald,
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  not a single pattern of tread on it.
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  You're gonna be past the
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  tread bar at that point.
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  You're basically just
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  running on the casing
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  of the tire almost.
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  The tread bar sticks up a few 30 seconds
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  up from the casing itself
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  and gives you that like,
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  hey, at this point you reach that mark,
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  there's almost nothing left of that tire.
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  You've got maybe a couple
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  few 30 seconds, if that.
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  Now, let's look at percentages.
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  16 30 seconds is gonna be 50% tread.
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  Six 30 seconds is going to
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  be what, less than 25% tread.
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  I think once you're down to that point,
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  you're needing to replace it.
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  You get down to 430 seconds,
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  dude, that's on the wear
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  bar, if not beyond that,
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  I think at that point.
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  So, I mean, we're
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  talking what, 430 seconds,
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  that's less than an
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  eighth inch of a tread.
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  Good Lord, man.
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  You're playing with danger.
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  I don't know.
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  You're not gonna get a
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  whole lot of off-road traction
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  with that tire, that's for sure.
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  Well, as always, I
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  recommend you do your own research.
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  This is the research that I have here
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  and you have your opinion from Josh.
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  All right, so why tread depth matters
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  for four wheel drive max traction tires.
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  Deeper grooves dig
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  into the mud, rock snow
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  and clear debris better.
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  Shallow over tread loses, shallower tread
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  loses a bite quickly.
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  So again, do your own
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  research on your tread depth.
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  I don't think it is tire specific.
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  I think that these are general numbers
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  that are used on all tires.
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  Probably, I don't know if anybody
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  does state inspections anymore,
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  but they may actually
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  check your tread depth
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  at a state inspection.
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  Oh, I think you
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  mentioned this last week, Josh,
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  the penny test.
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  Lincoln's head in the tire groove
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  and see if the top of the head,
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  if you're below two 30 seconds,
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  which according to you
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  would be very, very low.
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  So I always thought it
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  would be a little different
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  with maximum traction tires,
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  that it would be say an AT
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  or a standard ice cream truck tire.
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  A civilian tire is
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  what I would also call it.
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  All right, there you go.
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  Yeah, I like that
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  terminology, civilian tire.
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  That sort of puts it into perspective.
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  Right.
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  All right, I don't know if
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  you heard anything about this
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  or not, Josh.
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  Did you have anything you wanted to add
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  to the tire depth
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  stuff before we move on?
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  No, I look like with just about anything,
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  common sense goes a long way.
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  And so if your tire looks like it's bald,
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  if it looks like it
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  doesn't have a lot of traction,
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  well, maybe it's time
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  to do something about it.
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  Don't wait until it's too late
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  and you've got belts showing on the tire
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  or it won't hold air anymore
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  before you finally do something about it.
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  So just, like I said,
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  common sense goes a long way.
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  If you're looking at
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  your tire and you think,
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  I need to put a baseball hat on my tire,
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  it's probably bald.
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  All right.
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  So I don't know if you've
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  heard about this or not, Josh.
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  I was surprised by this.
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  When you think of
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  off-road, doing off-road videos,
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  action videos and stuff,
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  what's the one name you always think of,
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  but the device that you always think of?
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  GoPro.
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  Do you know that
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  GoPro is having problems?
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  They're not out of business.
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  I'm not surprised.
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  Look, they're trying to
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  release a $1,000 camera
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  every other year and keep
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  trying to make it bigger
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  and better in the 360s
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  and all that sort of stuff.
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  And look, I get it.
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  Social media is definitely driving a lot
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  of this technology and the demand for it.
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  But I think that they've
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  tried to do too much too soon.
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  And it's just like, you
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  don't need to be Apple.
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  You don't need to come up
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  with a new phone every year
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  so you can increase the bottom line or
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  something like that.
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  It's just like, I mean, look,
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  I'm still rocking the Hero 3.
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  So, you know, who am I to talk?
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  Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  Those things are very expensive.
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  So GoPro has faced
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  significant financial challenges,
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  declining revenue, 26%
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  drop in Q1 of this year
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  due to competition.
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  And you mentioned one of
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  them from brands like DJI,
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  Insta360, plus rising, I
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  didn't think about this,
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  rising memory chip
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  cost tied to AI demand.
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  Those AI
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  (beep)
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  are hurting us again.
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  Well, and let's take a look
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  at the drone industry as well.
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  I mean, everybody has a drone now, five,
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  six, seven years ago.
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  Nobody had drones.
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  And if you had one, it
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  was just like, oh my God,
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  that's the coolest thing ever.
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  But now, you know, DJI has what?
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  10 different models out now and stuff.
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  And you can get drones
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  on Teemu for Christ's sake
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  that have 4K cameras.
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  So it's like, why would I
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  spend seven, eight, $900
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  on a GoPro and then have
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  to do another two or $300
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  in batteries and
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  memory cards and accessories
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  and everything else just to make it work
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  for what I need to make it work for.
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  Or I can go in and on
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  the internet or on Amazon,
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  spend a fraction of
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  the price and get a drone
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  that has Follow Me
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  technology and things like that.
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  I mean, it's, yeah, I
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  think that GoPro has,
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  they set themselves into a niche
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  and they are just sort of becoming like
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  CDs and eight tracks.
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  They're just getting phased out
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  because technology is overwhelming them.
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  And there's so much other competition
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  that does more than what GoPro can do.
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  And so if you can get something for a
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  fraction of the price
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  that does everything you need it to
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  that a GoPro does and more,
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  well, I think the decision
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  becomes almost self-evident.
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  Well, I mean, and also
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  too, where do you use a GoPro?
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  I think we all know from
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  watching many, many, many
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  off-road videos, it's
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  only so interesting looking
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  from the viewpoint of
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  being inside the vehicle
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  because you can't tell the obstacle.
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  You don't get a good
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  sense of the obstacles danger
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  or even the off-camber thing.
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  So you're basically
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  taking video inside the cab,
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  maybe it's a little outside.
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  You can set your phone up to do that
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  and it has a wonderful camera.
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  And really that's where it's
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  gonna come into play, Tony,
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  is in these kinds of situations
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  where if you wanna
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  produce an off-road video,
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  it's like, well, okay, you
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  just wanna record yourself
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  going up this one trail
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  or over that one obstacle.
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  Okay, that's fine.
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  Have somebody hold your phone,
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  make sure that's holding
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  it the right way, people,
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  rectangularly.
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  And no matter what
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  happens, if there's a rollover,
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  keep it on me.
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  (laughing)
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  Oh, God.
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  And get the outside angles.
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  Yes, there's only so much
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  that can be communicated
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  through video with the camera inside
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  or attached to the
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  fender or up on the hood.
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  You need multiple angles
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  and that's where
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  multiple cameras come in.
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  And if anybody has spent any time
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  watching off-road videos,
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  the ones that grab your attention,
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  the ones that you watch the most,
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  the ones that you're gonna
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  stay engaged with the most,
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  are the ones that have
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  multiple video angles
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  of the same obstacle or the same trail,
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  the same vehicle going
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  over the same obstacle
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  or on the same trail.
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  And so just the one single view
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  is just not gonna do it anymore.
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  We have seen so much else out there.
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  Production capabilities
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  are now at our fingertips.
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  Everybody can be a video editor now.
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  And we certainly have the
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  technology available to us
• 15:43
  through multiple sources, even
• 15:46
  (beep)
• 15:47
  Walmart,
• 15:47
  you can go down and go get some stuff.
• 15:48
  So it's just, it's a
• 15:50
  changing world, that's for sure.
• 15:52
  As far as the off-road videos and stuff
• 15:54
  like that's concerned.
• 15:55
  So they issued a growing concern,
• 15:59
  a warning in June, 2026
• 16:01
  with their auditor expressing
• 16:04
  substantial doubt
• 16:05
  about the company's ability
• 16:07
  to continue operations over the next year
• 16:09
  without additional financing
• 16:11
  or successful sale slash merger.
• 16:15
  So, I mean, GoPro has
• 16:17
  been the big dog for years.
• 16:22
  But honestly, their tech,
• 16:23
  what do they have to offer?
• 16:25
  Let's, okay, so let's
• 16:26
  explore that just a little bit
• 16:27
  is who would be the parent company?
• 16:30
  Who would be the merging company?
• 16:32
  I mean, DJI, they have their own lenses,
• 16:35
  their own camera technology.
• 16:36
  I don't think that GoPro is
• 16:38
  gonna be able to offer them
• 16:39
  anything worthwhile as
• 16:40
  far as attractive technology
• 16:42
  to make their brand better.
• 16:46
  There really isn't
• 16:47
  another direct competitor
• 16:49
  outside of maybe the 360 cameras
• 16:51
  who would be interested
• 16:52
  in GoPro's technology.
• 16:55
  But then again, it's sort of antiquated.
• 16:58
  GoPro was the initiator.
• 17:01
  Well, I think Oregon Scientific came out
• 17:04
  with an action camera before they did,
• 17:05
  but aside from that, GoPro
• 17:08
  really was the originator.
• 17:10
  And like with
• 17:11
  anything, when you're the first
• 17:13
  and something else comes along
• 17:15
  or something else better comes along,
• 17:17
  you either have to innovate, improvise,
• 17:19
  or get out of the way.
• 17:21
  I think GoPro is facing
• 17:22
  that decision right now.
• 17:23
  Yeah, now I didn't research this.
• 17:25
  I didn't think about it
• 17:26
  till we were talking about it.
• 17:28
  When you get into video editing,
• 17:30
  especially if you have multiple streams,
• 17:33
  it's like, how do you
• 17:34
  overlay those streams properly?
• 17:37
  You can guess at it.
• 17:39
  I don't know if they have timing marks
• 17:41
  and things that the video
• 17:42
  editing software can use
• 17:44
  to synchronize the multiple streams.
• 17:47
  And beyond that, if you've got,
• 17:49
  I mean, you can grab
• 17:51
  four, five, eight GoPros
• 17:53
  and put them all over
• 17:54
  your rig like a professional.
• 17:56
  But boy, when you're pulling in,
• 17:57
  you gotta take those little cards out
• 17:59
  or hook the USB up or whatever to
• 18:01
  transfer those things.
• 18:03
  It's a very daunting procedure.
• 18:05
  I think that if GoPro
• 18:07
  hasn't already done this,
• 18:08
  and they may have, they need a way
• 18:11
  to easily transfer that stuff off
• 18:14
  and have it
• 18:14
  synchronized for video editing.
• 18:18
  You need to make the job
• 18:19
  of the video editor easy
• 18:21
  if you want to sell your product.
• 18:24
  And I wonder if this
• 18:25
  hasn't been part of the problem
• 18:27
  that they've run into as far as,
• 18:29
  I know that the
• 18:30
  GoPros, because I have three,
• 18:32
  and I know that that's
• 18:33
  been kind of my problem
• 18:35
  with the GoPros, but I
• 18:36
  have the Hero 3 like you do.
• 18:38
  They may have come out with something
• 18:39
  with the Hero 29.7 or
• 18:41
  whatever they're up to.
• 18:45
  So my Hero 3, it's like a
• 18:47
  Hero 3 Plus or whatever,
• 18:48
  even with that, it's so old
• 18:50
  that most of the apps out there now,
• 18:53
  the GoPro app doesn't even
• 18:54
  recognize the camera anymore.
• 18:56
  Because it's like on what,
• 18:57
  the GoPro 10 or 12, 13 now?
• 19:00
  Yeah, like you said, 29.7.
• 19:03
  So it's, yeah, it's antiquated technology
• 19:06
  as far as what's out
• 19:07
  there and what can control it.
• 19:08
  Because as soon as I found the ability
• 19:10
  that where I could
• 19:11
  control my GoPro from my phone,
• 19:13
  well, then it's like,
• 19:14
  well, I'm gonna mount this
• 19:15
  (beep)
• 19:16
  to the top of the Jeep.
• 19:17
  I'm gonna put a stick on this thing.
• 19:19
  I've actually done that before.
• 19:20
  I had like a three foot piece of PVC
• 19:22
  that I put the camera
• 19:24
  up on and mounted that
• 19:25
  to the rack on top of my Jeep
• 19:28
  and got a really nice overhead view.
• 19:30
  Now this is of course way
• 19:31
  before drones were even around
• 19:33
  or anything like that.
• 19:34
  And so it gave me a cool perspective,
• 19:36
  but without that kind
• 19:38
  of ingenuity and stuff
• 19:40
  or the ability to control
• 19:41
  a camera from your phone,
• 19:44
  dude, it makes it almost pointless.
• 19:46
  Well, I mean, let's be honest,
• 19:48
  for the really interesting videos,
• 19:49
  you really need a third and fourth person
• 19:52
  outside of the rig.
• 19:55
  That's given you an outside shot.
• 19:56
  And the B roll stuff from the drone
• 19:59
  gives you an overview of the site.
• 20:01
  So there's amazing
• 20:03
  things that you can do now
• 20:04
  with this stuff.
• 20:06
  But I don't think GoPro
• 20:08
  is where it needs to be
• 20:11
  to make the job
• 20:12
  easier for the videographer
• 20:14
  that's trying to document this stuff.
• 20:16
  I wonder what Brad's
• 20:18
  using at Trail Recon now,
• 20:20
  where Brad has done some amazing things
• 20:23
  and he was doing it back whenever the
• 20:25
  technology was older.
• 20:27
  So I can well imagine
• 20:28
  there's some good ways of doing it.
• 20:30
  Maybe the DJI, the DJI stuff is amazing.
• 20:34
  All right, so--
• 20:35
  Well, I should say it
• 20:36
  is, I think any more,
• 20:39
  I was gonna say any more nowadays,
• 20:41
  you have to have multiple cameras,
• 20:43
  you have to have multiple angles,
• 20:45
  you have to have an outside the vehicle,
• 20:47
  somebody sitting on the ground
• 20:48
  or something up in the air looking plus
• 20:51
  what you have on the rig as well.
• 20:54
  Otherwise, it's just not as
• 20:56
  entertaining as it used to be.
• 20:58
  Yeah, it's really what
• 21:00
  can I put on the screen
• 21:01
  that makes it interesting or even,
• 21:04
  that's an interesting angle,
• 21:06
  like the ones that are down under the rig
• 21:08
  and you're looking at
• 21:09
  the rocks coming up.
• 21:10
  Oh yeah, no, I've mounted a camera
• 21:13
  on top of my rear axle
• 21:14
  before and it's an amazing view.
• 21:18
  But again, there's only so
• 21:21
  much of that you can watch.
• 21:22
  Yeah, yeah, oh, and
• 21:23
  it's lucky you love it,
• 21:26
  it looks so wonderful.
• 21:27
  And if you leave it on
• 21:28
  there longer than five seconds,
• 21:29
  it's too long.
• 21:30
  And it took you 30
• 21:32
  minutes to get it mounted
• 21:33
  and get all set up, yeah.
• 21:35
  So it's fun, but
• 21:36
  there's a lot of good work.
• 21:37
  So you guys, next time
• 21:39
  you see a good video,
• 21:40
  make sure you comment on it
• 21:42
  because audio is tough, video is harder.
• 21:46
  All right, so speaking of sales,
• 21:49
  I heard recently there was some good news
• 21:51
  about sales at Jeep.
• 21:52
  I heard they were up 10%,
• 21:55
  but let's get into this.
• 21:58
  So the Jeep under Stellantis
• 22:00
  has been a mixed sales result
• 22:02
  in 2026 so far with some increases,
• 22:05
  but overall brand softness in the US.
• 22:08
  And boys and girls, we
• 22:09
  all know how the softness
• 22:10
  is not a good thing.
• 22:13
  But it's not dead.
• 22:15
  Yeah, I think a lot of that has,
• 22:18
  I think a lot of that might have to do
• 22:19
  with the current gas prices
• 22:21
  over the last several months
• 22:24
  as we get into this quarter sales.
• 22:28
  I think we're gonna continue to see
• 22:31
  third and fourth quarter sales drops,
• 22:34
  I think probably across the board,
• 22:37
  our Jeeps line up and
• 22:39
  other automakers as well.
• 22:41
  Well, according to the
• 22:42
  research I have here,
• 22:43
  Stellantis overall,
• 22:44
  including Jeep, Ram, et cetera,
• 22:46
  strong rebound, Q2
• 22:49
  shipments up 10% year over year.
• 22:52
  Of course, last year wasn't
• 22:53
  good, but that's an increase.
• 22:56
  Driven heavily by North
• 22:58
  America, 38% up 38% North America.
• 23:02
  First half of US sales up 5%.
• 23:05
  So the Jeep brand is
• 23:07
  down slightly, Q2 sales,
• 23:10
  140,699 units, 5%, I'm
• 23:14
  sorry, down 5% year over year.
• 23:16
  First half, 285,394 units.
• 23:21
  So, I mean, if you get a pin,
• 23:23
  I should have told you to get a pin
• 23:24
  before I went through that stuff.
• 23:26
  So it's better. How are you feeling
• 23:27
  you're being on that?
• 23:29
  So it's better folks,
• 23:30
  which is always good.
• 23:33
  Well, so here's the thing is that
• 23:35
  we've been talking about
• 23:36
  Jeep for well over a decade.
• 23:39
  And as somebody who's been
• 23:41
  a Jeep fan for a long time,
• 23:43
  and of course, you
• 23:44
  know, co-host of the show,
• 23:47
  these are numbers that I wouldn't say
• 23:49
  I have my finger on the pulse of,
• 23:51
  but certainly
• 23:52
  something that we've watched.
• 23:53
  Jeep has gone into
• 23:54
  sales slumps historically
• 23:55
  multiple times over the
• 23:57
  last couple of decades.
• 23:58
  This isn't going to be like, oh my God,
• 24:01
  are they going to have to close up shop?
• 24:03
  Are they gonna have to sell?
• 24:04
  Is there gonna be another parent company?
• 24:06
  What's gonna happen with Stellantis?
• 24:08
  You know, all this, I don't know
• 24:10
  if we're quite to that point yet.
• 24:12
  Right.
• 24:13
  I think we are getting close though.
• 24:15
  There has been talks years past
• 24:18
  about Jeep becoming its own brand,
• 24:21
  not having a parent company.
• 24:22
  And I think, God, I don't know why it
• 24:26
  hasn't happened before,
• 24:27
  but I think it needs to happen soon.
• 24:30
  And this latest sales slump may be enough
• 24:35
  for the executives and the
• 24:37
  people around the boardroom
• 24:38
  to maybe start
• 24:39
  entertaining that idea again.
• 24:41
  Well, I mean, when
• 24:41
  you're building Fiat 500s
• 24:44
  and selling them to people,
• 24:46
  you may need a Jeep and a
• 24:48
  Ram just to keep you afloat.
• 24:51
  And I think this is the case,
• 24:52
  the Jeep and Ram keep getting purchased
• 24:55
  because companies with big money
• 24:58
  that don't know how to build a
• 24:59
  (beep)
• 25:00
  car
• 25:00
  or off-road vehicle need Jeep
• 25:03
  and Ram to keep them afloat.
• 25:05
  I don't have the numbers for
• 25:06
  that, but that's my feeling.
• 25:08
  And I think that's been true for decades.
• 25:12
  Well, what it was, the
• 25:14
  whole EPA standard thing
• 25:15
  is that you have to reach a certain
• 25:18
  nominal average number
• 25:19
  across your entire lineup.
• 25:21
  And so if you've got
• 25:22
  something like a Gladiator
• 25:24
  or a Wrangler that's only
• 25:25
  getting 10, 12, 14 miles
• 25:27
  to the gallon, but you need
• 25:28
  to average 30 or 35 or 40,
• 25:31
  I don't know what the
• 25:31
  EPA standard is nowadays,
• 25:33
  you gotta have other
• 25:34
  vehicles in your lineup
• 25:36
  that have significantly better MPGs
• 25:41
  to offset that difference.
• 25:43
  And without that, yeah, I'm
• 25:47
  not sure what they can do.
• 25:49
  But I heard that, I thought
• 25:50
  Trump was sort of taking away
• 25:52
  a lot of those EPA
• 25:53
  standards and reducing some of those
• 25:55
  to make it more
• 25:56
  realistic for car companies
• 25:58
  to have a more balanced lineup.
• 26:01
  Yeah, that's very true.
• 26:03
  And I think that,
• 26:04
  especially on the EPA side of things,
• 26:06
  they're doing stuff.
• 26:07
  In fact, I think that the,
• 26:09
  what's that diesel detergent?
• 26:11
  Is it Neff or what do you
• 26:13
  have to put in the diesel?
• 26:14
  Yeah, diesel exhaust fluid.
• 26:16
  Yeah, so I think that
• 26:18
  it's actually going away.
• 26:20
  I think that that's not gonna
• 26:21
  be required in newer vehicles.
• 26:23
  But of course it will
• 26:24
  depend on future elections.
• 26:26
  No, I've heard the discussion about this.
• 26:29
  Well, I'm, oh really?
• 26:32
  Because I'm driving a 2025
• 26:33
  right now and it's diesel
• 26:34
  and it has deaf.
• 26:35
  Yeah, no, but I don't
• 26:36
  think it's happened yet.
• 26:38
  And I don't know that if
• 26:39
  the vehicle has to change
• 26:41
  for it to not require a deaf fluid,
• 26:43
  but I've definitely
• 26:44
  heard discussions about that.
• 26:45
  Well, the whole thing was
• 26:46
  to reduce the black smoke
• 26:50
  and the smell of diesel.
• 26:52
  But the kids love that.
• 26:53
  Yeah, exactly.
• 26:55
  Well, it all goes back to people.
• 26:58
  Yeah, it all goes back
• 26:59
  to people making decisions
• 27:00
  about things they
• 27:01
  don't know a thing about.
• 27:03
  They're pushing a
• 27:04
  narrative that they wanna control
• 27:07
  and do things that
• 27:08
  doesn't have to do with science.
• 27:10
  It has enough to do with
• 27:11
  science that they can put their
• 27:13
  way through, get the law passed.
• 27:15
  So America, America, I
• 27:18
  mean, it's all, it's wonderful
• 27:20
  being able to breathe clean
• 27:21
  air and drink clean water.
• 27:23
  But if you don't have a job
• 27:25
  and you don't have a house,
• 27:28
  what does clean air and water do for you?
• 27:30
  You need to have a job.
• 27:32
  You need to be able to get the job done.
• 27:34
  And diesels have been
• 27:36
  getting the job done for years.
• 27:37
  Now I have no problem switching to EVs.
• 27:40
  Yeah, I have no problem switching to EVs,
• 27:42
  but let's be realistic.
• 27:44
  Batteries don't
• 27:45
  magically sprout from the ground.
• 27:47
  There's a lot of nasty
• 27:48
  things that are in batteries
• 27:52
  and getting them as nasty too.
• 27:54
  That's right.
• 27:55
  All right, so we'll get there.
• 27:58
  Yeah.
• 28:01
  And so that's one thing
• 28:02
  that people like to ignore.
• 28:03
  It's the inconvenient
• 28:04
  truth is, as Al Gore once said,
• 28:07
  is that the inconvenient
• 28:09
  truth is that your electric
• 28:10
  battery vehicle may
• 28:12
  not have any emissions,
• 28:14
  but I guarantee you the
• 28:16
  emissions that were exuded
• 28:18
  from the manufacturing of
• 28:19
  that battery long outweigh
• 28:22
  anything that that
• 28:23
  vehicle would have produced
• 28:25
  if it had an internal combustion engine.
• 28:26
  Yeah, and the
• 28:27
  inconvenient truth for Al Gore is,
• 28:29
  you don't always get a
• 28:30
  happy ending on request.
• 28:32
  Sometimes they say, no, thank you.
• 28:36
  You know, there's a big
• 28:36
  sting that happened in my area
• 28:38
  here about that very, very thing.
• 28:39
  Oh, I didn't know.
• 28:40
  I didn't see your picture.
• 28:41
  (laughing)
• 28:45
  Wasn't me that was in the news.
• 28:46
  Oh, okay.
• 28:47
  I thought you were
• 28:47
  gonna do an exclusive here.
• 28:49
  All right, so one other
• 28:51
  thing about Stellantis.
• 28:53
  I had heard rumors that
• 28:55
  they were going to sell off
• 28:57
  one of their, would it be groups,
• 29:00
  subsidiaries, whatever it's
• 29:02
  called, and it was Maserati.
• 29:04
  They were talking
• 29:05
  about selling off Maserati.
• 29:07
  Now, my research says it's not true,
• 29:10
  but I wanted to talk about it anyway
• 29:12
  because if you're gonna
• 29:13
  lose some dead weight,
• 29:14
  (laughing)
• 29:15
  I think Maserati would be
• 29:18
  considered a dead weight,
• 29:20
  at least to a jeeper.
• 29:23
  Well, certainly, well, yeah, I mean,
• 29:25
  as far as from the jeep perspective goes,
• 29:27
  but as a multiple
• 29:30
  automaker owning company,
• 29:33
  you gotta look at
• 29:34
  where your loss leader is
• 29:36
  and a luxury sports
• 29:37
  car brand that probably
• 29:39
  is losing you some money
• 29:42
  may be the most attractive one
• 29:43
  to cut first.
• 29:45
  And let's just look at units.
• 29:48
  I mean, I'm sure they're
• 29:49
  selling a lot more Fiat's
• 29:50
  than they are selling Maserati.
• 29:54
  Whatever the Maserati is.
• 29:57
  Yeah, exactly.
• 29:58
  So it's one of those things where, look,
• 30:01
  we're selling 2% of these
• 30:03
  out of our gross overall
• 30:05
  sales, it's not
• 30:08
  really making us any money,
• 30:09
  it's costing us more to manage this brand
• 30:12
  than it is producing any kind of revenue.
• 30:15
  Let's just dump this vehicle
• 30:19
  brand that is losing us money.
• 30:20
  I mean, I don't know
• 30:21
  if Maserati is actually
• 30:22
  in the green or not, or
• 30:24
  if they're in the red.
• 30:25
  I don't know.
• 30:27
  There's not a lot of Maseratis around
• 30:28
  here in the Northwest.
• 30:29
  I've never been a huge Maserati fan.
• 30:31
  Yes, they're nice cars.
• 30:33
  They certainly are attractive to look at,
• 30:35
  but I wouldn't probably own one.
• 30:38
  Well, I probably never would just be able
• 30:40
  from the cost standpoint alone.
• 30:42
  But that being said, you
• 30:45
  gotta look at protecting
• 30:47
  your overall image and brand.
• 30:50
  And if Maserati isn't
• 30:53
  coming along green enough,
• 30:56
  and you're trying to really push
• 30:59
  that whole greeny weeny
• 31:00
  thing, Maserati may have to go.
• 31:03
  So, I mean, this might go
• 31:05
  the way of the Studebaker.
• 31:06
  Who knows?
• 31:07
  So this is what I've found.
• 31:08
  Maserati is
• 31:09
  struggling with very low sales.
• 31:12
  So Stellantis is seeking
• 31:14
  partnerships, not a sale,
• 31:18
  with two unnamed major
• 31:20
  partners to bring technology,
• 31:22
  development, and new models.
• 31:24
  Likely candidates
• 31:25
  discussed in the reports include
• 31:28
  Chinese firms like, is it Hui or Hui?
• 31:32
  Yeah.
• 31:33
  So that's it.
• 31:36
  That's it.
• 31:37
  Is Maserati doesn't have
• 31:39
  a big EV or hybrid lineup.
• 31:42
  And so let's combine them
• 31:43
  with what China is doing.
• 31:44
  China is dominating the EV
• 31:46
  market globally right now.
• 31:48
  And so if they could attach
• 31:50
  Maserati to some of those sales
• 31:53
  by incorporating some of the technologies
• 31:55
  between the two companies together,
• 31:57
  that would obviously be a
• 31:59
  huge win for Stellantis.
• 32:00
  And let's not call it a sale.
• 32:02
  Let's go ahead and
• 32:03
  start redefining things.
• 32:04
  And we're gonna call it a
• 32:05
  merger or an acquisition
• 32:07
  or a changing of technology
• 32:09
  or merging of technologies,
• 32:11
  if you will.
• 32:12
  But yeah, it's all about
• 32:14
  what we're gonna call it
• 32:15
  and what's it gonna look like in the end.
• 32:16
  And I think ultimately the green weenies
• 32:22
  are what's driving this.
• 32:24
  They're all about the CO2 and emissions
• 32:27
  and EPAs and MPGs and
• 32:30
  all that sort of stuff.
• 32:31
  And Maserati just isn't producing.
• 32:33
  Yeah, yeah.
• 32:34
  So like I was saying,
• 32:35
  Chinese firms like Huawei and JAC
• 32:38
  for EV slash tech, as
• 32:40
  you were mentioning, Josh,
• 32:42
  that collaboration and a dedicated
• 32:45
  Maserati strategy update
• 32:46
  is planned for December of 2026,
• 32:49
  just in time for Christmas.
• 32:52
  The goal is to keep Maserati--
• 32:54
  Yeah, it's a bit outside.
• 32:55
  Maserati as a luxury Italian brand
• 32:59
  while using
• 33:00
  partnerships to help revive it.
• 33:03
  Revive it.
• 33:04
  So that tells you how bad the sales are.
• 33:07
  So this fits
• 33:08
  Stellantis's broader strategy,
• 33:11
  focus heavy investment
• 33:13
  on core brands, Jeep, Ram,
• 33:15
  Peugeot, Fiat, while repositioning others
• 33:18
  like Maserati through partnerships
• 33:21
  rather than divestitures.
• 33:23
  Maserati remains part of the portfolio
• 33:26
  with refreshed models, Gran Turismo,
• 33:29
  I think I've heard
• 33:30
  about that one, Gran Caprio.
• 33:33
  I'll have a chance to use
• 33:34
  Maserati models and stuff.
• 33:36
  Recently unveiled in
• 33:38
  the leadership strategies.
• 33:40
  New CEO for the brand.
• 33:42
  No sale is on the table.
• 33:44
  So they are not, it seems
• 33:46
  like they're pushing though.
• 33:47
  We're not selling it.
• 33:48
  We're not selling it really, really hard.
• 33:50
  (laughing)
• 33:52
  I don't know why people are so afraid
• 33:55
  to get rid of baggage.
• 33:57
  I mean, clean house, why not?
• 34:00
  What would be the big deal
• 34:02
  about Maserati going away?
• 34:04
  How many car brands
• 34:06
  over the last 100 years
• 34:07
  have come and gone?
• 34:08
  Yeah, I think it has
• 34:09
  to do with stock prices.
• 34:11
  I think that they're probably concerned
• 34:13
  that it's gonna look, there's overall
• 34:15
  weakness in Stellantis
• 34:17
  and that they're panicking
• 34:19
  and getting rid of,
• 34:19
  spinning something off
• 34:20
  and it probably would
• 34:21
  hurt their stock price.
• 34:24
  So anyway, it sounds like
• 34:25
  they're making a big deal
• 34:26
  about not selling
• 34:27
  Maserati, which you gotta wonder.
• 34:29
  And also too, why are
• 34:32
  they worried about it?
• 34:33
  It probably has to do with stock prices
• 34:35
  for Stellantis as a whole, but we'll see.
• 34:37
  And I mean, you never know.
• 34:39
  There could be a bunch of politicians,
• 34:41
  a politicking going on inside the company
• 34:44
  as far as losing Maserati.
• 34:46
  I can't remember, there was somebody
• 34:48
  that was put in charge of
• 34:49
  Jeep that came from Maserati.
• 34:52
  And I don't remember if they're still
• 34:54
  in that position or not.
• 34:55
  So.
• 34:55
  Oh, that does ring a small little bell.
• 35:00
  I don't think that they, it wasn't like,
• 35:02
  head of the North American
• 35:03
  brand or a major position.
• 35:06
  It wasn't like a CFO or
• 35:08
  a CEO position like that.
• 35:10
  It was an executive level position,
• 35:12
  but I don't think it was
• 35:13
  one of the upper echelons.
• 35:15
  But yeah, that does ring a bell.
• 35:17
  So you never know what kind of politics
• 35:18
  is going on in there.
• 35:19
  What kind of deals, the
• 35:20
  background deals are being made.
• 35:22
  And I'm not saying it's nothing that's
• 35:24
  not on the up and up.
• 35:25
  It's just, you never know about the
• 35:28
  politics behind stuff
• 35:30
  that are going on, especially
• 35:31
  multi-billion dollar companies.
• 35:35
  All right, Josh.
• 35:35
  So the, we've talked
• 35:39
  about tire tread today.
• 35:40
  We've talked about
• 35:41
  Maserati maybe going away,
• 35:43
  which you know, you and I, we're Jeepers.
• 35:44
  We don't care.
• 35:45
  Get rid of them, lose the
• 35:46
  dead weight, keep going.
• 35:48
  We actually, we'd like to see Jeep Ram
• 35:51
  spun off into their own
• 35:53
  brand, their own entity,
• 35:56
  single entity.
• 35:56
  Yeah.
• 35:57
  I think that would be nice.
• 35:59
  And it would be really
• 36:00
  cool to actually have a,
• 36:02
  be part of a company,
• 36:05
  but how do I say part,
• 36:06
  somebody that owns a Jeep,
• 36:07
  be part of a company that succeeding
• 36:09
  instead of having ups and
• 36:11
  downs and highs and lows.
• 36:13
  I don't think that you
• 36:14
  can make the Jeep better.
• 36:17
  I think that you can just,
• 36:18
  I think they've done an
• 36:19
  excellent job over the years
• 36:21
  of keeping the Jeeps,
• 36:22
  Jeepy, as I like to say.
• 36:24
  And, you know, I bet
• 36:26
  you there's some engineers
• 36:27
  and some backers that
• 36:29
  have had screaming matches,
• 36:31
  especially with the Europeans.
• 36:33
  Oh.
• 36:35
  About what this Jeep is gonna--
• 36:36
  Yeah, to be a fly on the wall.
• 36:40
  How is this Jeep gonna be made?
• 36:42
  Can't we just put like a one
• 36:43
  liter with 27 turbos in there?
• 36:46
  It's really popular in
• 36:48
  the narrow streets in Paris.
• 36:50
  Oh, fuck you.
• 36:53
  (laughs)
• 36:54
  So there's somebody
• 36:55
  fighting for us, Josh, at Jeep.
• 37:00
  Well, there is a degree
• 37:02
  of heritage and history
• 37:05
  that Jeep sort of has to adhere to.
• 37:08
  And without that, I think
• 37:09
  they lose a massive amount
• 37:11
  of customer base and
• 37:13
  just overall sales ability.
• 37:17
  And so if they don't
• 37:20
  stick to what they've done
• 37:21
  and what they're good at,
• 37:23
  then it's not ever gonna work.
• 37:27
  All right, well, let me
• 37:28
  give you a few updates.
• 37:29
  This will be new for you too, Josh,
• 37:31
  as we haven't spoken since last week.
• 37:35
  The Jeep Talk Show is remastering
• 37:40
  the original XJ Talk Show episodes.
• 37:43
  And you can see them on YouTube.
• 37:46
  Now they are audio only.
• 37:47
  We've got some
• 37:48
  pictures that change on there,
• 37:49
  but it is just audio only.
• 37:51
  So you can listen to
• 37:52
  the original XJ Talk Show.
• 37:54
  Yeah, we weren't doing video back then.
• 37:55
  No, on a few shows we have that
• 37:58
  because we were using
• 37:58
  Ustream, I believe at the time.
• 38:00
  And, but yeah, so we've remastered them.
• 38:03
  It's episode one through 31.
• 38:06
  And I've also
• 38:08
  introduced unhinged Grok Reviews
• 38:13
  at the end of the videos.
• 38:16
  So if you listen all the
• 38:17
  way to the end or skip,
• 38:18
  if you want to, the last
• 38:20
  thing you're gonna hear
• 38:22
  is Grok creatively reviewing the show,
• 38:27
  the episode you have just listened to.
• 38:29
  And it's just funny.
• 38:31
  Some of the stuff that Grok comes up with
• 38:33
  on the reviews is just hilarious.
• 38:36
  You know when we were
• 38:37
  talking about the tires
• 38:38
  and the fender sizes and how
• 38:40
  you got the front rooster tail?
• 38:44
  Grok referred to that as a bidet.
• 38:49
  And I thought that was hilarious.
• 38:52
  That's awesome.
• 38:56
  (laughing)
• 38:57
  So aiming is very important.
• 38:59
  Oh.
• 39:00
  So on top of that, we've
• 39:02
  added more things to YouTube.
• 39:05
  Our new shows like this one on YouTube
• 39:08
  actually has links in it that you can,
• 39:10
  it will take you to the
• 39:11
  jeeptalkshow.com website
• 39:14
  to the actual episode.
• 39:15
  So you can review the show
• 39:17
  notes, the episode transcript.
• 39:19
  You can actually find more
• 39:21
  places to listen to the show
• 39:22
  like Pandora,
• 39:24
  iHeartRadio, Apple, all those places,
• 39:27
  just a click and it takes
• 39:28
  you straight to the episode.
• 39:30
  Oh, we're everywhere.
• 39:30
  Yep.
• 39:31
  But the click, it takes
• 39:33
  you straight to the episode.
• 39:34
  So if you're a big Pandora
• 39:35
  fan and you hadn't found us,
• 39:36
  just go to jeeptalkshow.com,
• 39:38
  click on the little Pandora icon
• 39:40
  and it'll take you straight to us
• 39:41
  and you can subscribe over there.
• 39:42
  So we're doing a lot of
• 39:43
  things to make it easier
• 39:45
  for you guys to not encode,
• 39:48
  or to like eat the show,
• 39:52
  so that you can devour it and consume it.
• 39:55
  So we're doing a lot of
• 39:57
  new things on the show.
• 39:59
  As we've always tried
• 40:00
  to add things to it,
• 40:02
  you'll hear a grok review
• 40:04
  at the end of this episode,
• 40:06
  which I highly recommend.
• 40:08
  They're short, 30 seconds to a minute.
• 40:10
  And I think they're just so funny.
• 40:12
  Oh, and we actually have the ability
• 40:15
  to get rid of bad words,
• 40:17
  but of course not all
• 40:19
  the words get bleeped.
• 40:21
  Some of them sneak
• 40:22
  through, but very rarely.
• 40:24
  But we do have an explicit rating.
• 40:26
  So keep that in mind if you're listening
• 40:28
  or viewing this with the kids.
• 40:31
  Yeah, I mean, it's really amazing.
• 40:34
  Technology is helping us out
• 40:35
  and we've always tried to use technology
• 40:37
  to make this a more
• 40:38
  interesting show for you,
• 40:40
  the viewer and the listener.
• 40:44
  All right, Josh, the new fan favorite is,
• 40:48
  (beep)
• 40:49
  you, you
• 40:49
  (beep)
• 40:51
  Apparently there's a lot
• 40:52
  of angry people out there
• 40:54
  just not in a position to
• 40:55
  be able to release their,
• 40:57
  I'm just gonna call it their inner Josh.
• 40:59
  So what's, what's,
• 41:02
  what fucking fuck are you talking today?
• 41:05
  You work on somebody every now and again.
• 41:07
  (laughing) So there's been a theme,
• 41:09
  I've gotten a couple of remarks.
• 41:12
  People have said that,
• 41:12
  "Hey, it seems like you
• 41:13
  drive fast an awful lot
• 41:15
  and all your complaints are about people
• 41:16
  who drive as fast as you."
• 41:18
  You know, and it's like,
• 41:19
  "Well, okay, I'll
• 41:19
  switch it up a little bit."
• 41:20
  Yes, I drive fast, okay?
• 41:22
  I'm typically
• 41:23
  anywhere between five and 15
• 41:25
  over the speed limit at any given time,
• 41:27
  unless I'm towing a big trailer or
• 41:29
  something like that.
• 41:29
  And then I'll mine my
• 41:30
  P's and Q's a little bit.
• 41:31
  But yes, I would consider
• 41:33
  myself one of those people
• 41:34
  who drive offensively.
• 41:37
  And yes, you gotta have
• 41:38
  some defensive driving too,
• 41:39
  but if that's all that
• 41:41
  you do is defensive driving,
• 41:42
  you're gonna be part of the problem,
• 41:44
  not part of the solution.
• 41:45
  You're backing up.
• 41:46
  And so it's one of these things to,
• 41:48
  one of these things to where,
• 41:49
  yeah, there's a lot of complaints
• 41:52
  that I have revolved
• 41:54
  around people and their speed
• 41:56
  or their attention to
• 41:57
  detail and things like that.
• 41:58
  So this week, I'm gonna
• 41:59
  switch things up just a little bit.
• 42:00
  And this is gonna apply more to people
• 42:04
  and their parking abilities, okay?
• 42:07
  And their ability to
• 42:08
  actually control their vehicle
• 42:10
  and know where their
• 42:10
  corners are and things like that.
• 42:12
  And look, not everybody
• 42:14
  drives a Jeep and sits up high
• 42:16
  and can see the rig around
• 42:17
  them and stuff like that.
• 42:18
  Not everybody has the
• 42:20
  situational awareness
• 42:22
  that a lot of Jeepers
• 42:23
  and off-roaders have
• 42:24
  that come with a lot of
• 42:25
  trail riding and line selection,
• 42:28
  wheel placement, things like that.
• 42:30
  A lot of that stuff actually
• 42:31
  increases your driver ability
• 42:33
  and makes you a better driver overall.
• 42:35
  Without those kinds of supplemental
• 42:38
  educational opportunities,
• 42:40
  well, you're not as good
• 42:41
  of a driver in my opinion.
• 42:43
  And in this example,
• 42:44
  I'm gonna highlight that.
• 42:46
  When you've got somebody
• 42:47
  who absolutely does not know
• 42:48
  how to
• 42:49
  (beep)
• 42:49
  park, they're typically
• 42:50
  either three feet away
• 42:51
  from the curb and they're blocking part
• 42:53
  of the lane of traffic.
• 42:55
  They're taking up two or three spots.
• 42:56
  They're even parked
• 42:57
  sideways in a parking spot
• 42:59
  or they're parked
• 43:00
  somewhere where you're not supposed
• 43:01
  to park at all altogether.
• 43:03
  I ran into this
• 43:03
  recently where somebody decided
• 43:05
  to park their truck and trailer out in
• 43:06
  front of a Home Depot
• 43:08
  and it was not in a parking space
• 43:11
  or in a loading zone
• 43:12
  or anything like that.
• 43:13
  And I had a truck and a trailer.
• 43:15
  I'm trying to come through.
• 43:16
  They had just gotten out of
• 43:17
  their rig and walked in the store
• 43:19
  and just left their rig
• 43:20
  right in the middle there.
• 43:21
  Somebody pulled up
• 43:22
  behind me and now we're stuck.
• 43:24
  Traffic jam.
• 43:25
  I had no room to back up.
• 43:26
  I've got no room where to go.
• 43:28
  And I'm kind of in a hurry.
• 43:30
  I've got people at job
• 43:31
  sites waiting for me.
• 43:32
  I've got things to pick up.
• 43:33
  I've got things to deliver.
• 43:34
  And you are seriously
• 43:35
  (beep)
• 43:36
  with my game.
• 43:37
  So look, if you don't know how to park,
• 43:39
  if you don't know some
• 43:40
  situational awareness,
• 43:42
  you don't have two
• 43:42
  brain cells to rub together
• 43:44
  for a little bit of common
• 43:45
  sense to understand that,
• 43:46
  hey, maybe my vehicle might be in the way
• 43:48
  in the middle of this
• 43:49
  (beep)
• 43:49
  driveway.
• 43:50
  Well,
• 43:50
  (beep)
• 43:50
  you, you
• 43:51
  (beep)
• 43:52
  just stay out of the rig altogether.
• 43:54
  If you can't actually put
• 43:55
  your vehicle where it belongs
• 43:56
  or actually know how to
• 43:58
  park it, where it belongs,
• 44:00
  then maybe you
• 44:00
  shouldn't be driving at all.
• 44:02
  I don't know.
• 44:02
  Maybe it's just me.
• 44:03
  I get really mad about things like this.
• 44:05
  When you impede my progress,
• 44:07
  when you make my day less efficient,
• 44:10
  when I've got to
• 44:10
  actually get out of the rig,
• 44:11
  go talk to other people,
• 44:13
  we've got to figure out how to move a
• 44:14
  bunch of rigs around
• 44:15
  because you are in the way.
• 44:17
  Now,
• 44:18
  (beep)
• 44:18
  you, you
• 44:19
  (beep)
• 44:21
  So I don't know, you
• 44:22
  know about Bucky's, right?
• 44:24
  I mean, of course you do.
• 44:24
  I remember one of the
• 44:25
  Jeep talk show events.
• 44:27
  Dude, yeah.
• 44:27
  You learned about Bucky's.
• 44:28
  I heard Bucky's is going to be,
• 44:30
  Bucky's is, they were
• 44:32
  in the news recently,
• 44:32
  they're going to be
• 44:33
  building the largest Bucky's ever
• 44:36
  here really soon, and I don't
• 44:37
  know which state it's in now.
• 44:38
  I just know, I saw
• 44:40
  that story here recently
• 44:41
  in the last couple of weeks,
• 44:42
  and it made me think of you,
• 44:43
  and it made me think of Beaver Nuggets,
• 44:45
  and I just, I love Bucky's,
• 44:47
  and I wish they'd bring one to Oregon.
• 44:49
  Yeah, exactly.
• 44:50
  So one of the complaints at Bucky's,
• 44:52
  they have a hundred
• 44:53
  pumps, and they're all full,
• 44:56
  and one of the complaints at Bucky's is,
• 44:58
  people pull up to the
• 45:00
  gas pump to get gas,
• 45:02
  and they fill up their vehicle,
• 45:04
  then they walk inside,
• 45:06
  leaving the vehicle in front of the pump
• 45:09
  so they could go shop,
• 45:11
  and then they come
• 45:12
  back out to the vehicle,
• 45:14
  and then leave.
• 45:15
  So move your truck, move your car,
• 45:20
  and I hear about this
• 45:21
  happening at gas stations too,
• 45:23
  where people will pull up and--
• 45:25
  Or kill two birds with,
• 45:27
  kill two birds with one stone.
• 45:29
  It's going to take five minutes to pump
• 45:32
  your 14 to 25 gallons of fuel, okay?
• 45:36
  Get the pump going, get your happy
• 45:38
  (beep)
• 45:39
  moving, and get your
• 45:40
  (beep)
• 45:40
  into the store
• 45:41
  to go buy your Fritos or
• 45:42
  whatever you need to go buy,
• 45:43
  and then come back out,
• 45:45
  and by the time you've made your
• 45:46
  transaction, guess what?
• 45:47
  Your pump's probably gonna be done
• 45:49
  or just about finished up,
• 45:51
  and you can get on your
• 45:52
  way and get out of the way,
• 45:52
  and somebody else can
• 45:53
  come in and get some gas.
• 45:55
  Get out of the way of other people.
• 45:57
  You're gonna sit there, seriously,
• 45:59
  get the
• 46:00
  (beep)
• 46:00
  out of the way.
• 46:01
  It's not that hard.
• 46:02
  I think that should be a giant sticker,
• 46:04
  a windshield banner, that
• 46:06
  I'm gonna start making those.
• 46:07
  And in reverse letters, too.
• 46:10
  So when you look at it in the mirror,
• 46:11
  it says get the
• 46:12
  (beep)
• 46:12
  out of the way.
• 46:14
  Yeah, get out of the way.
• 46:16
  Don't make the beaver angry.
• 46:17
  Nobody likes an angry beaver.
• 46:22
  (laughing)
• 46:25
  Hey, this is Nicky G,
• 46:26
  and you know a lot of people ask me,
• 46:28
  how did you learn to work on exhaust?
• 46:30
  And my answer to that is, I don't.
• 46:33
  (engine revving)
• 46:43
  Yeah, some people should just learn to
• 46:44
  keep their mouth shut.
• 46:47
  That's not why I'm calling.
• 46:48
  I'm calling to tell you that.
• 46:49
  Did you know some people
• 46:50
  say nothing is impossible?
• 46:52
  Where I beg to differ.
• 46:54
  I'm doing nothing right
• 46:55
  now, and it's possible.
• 46:56
  It's very, very possible.
• 46:58
  (metal clanging)
• 47:01
  All right, boys and
• 47:01
  girls, I'll chat to you later.
• 47:02
  Have a good one, bye.
• 47:03
  That was a waste of banana.
• 47:09
  All that carbon makes it,
• 47:16
  ugh, there's a chunk in it.
• 47:20
  Probably wasn't a good idea.
• 47:21
  All right, boys and
• 47:21
  girls, I'll chat to you later.
• 47:23
  Have a good one, bye.
• 47:24
  (upbeat music)
• 47:27
  All right, Josh,
• 47:27
  well, that's it for today.
• 47:28
  Thank you so much for making time for us.
• 47:30
  I hope all the fans are appreciative
• 47:33
  of all the stuff that
• 47:34
  you do for the show.
• 47:35
  We really appreciate it.
• 47:36
  Glad you're back.
• 47:37
  And if you'd like to find
• 47:39
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• 47:40
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• 47:42
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• 47:44
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• 47:45
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• 47:47
  Josh, how can they
• 47:48
  leave us a video voicemail?
• 47:51
  Oh, these are so much fun,
• 47:53
  and I really want you
• 47:53
  guys to start getting in
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• 47:56
  You head over to
• 47:57
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• 48:00
  Really super easy, right?
• 48:02
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• 48:03
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• 48:05
  on your phone, okay?
• 48:06
  It's just a camera app.
• 48:07
  It's all it is.
• 48:08
  It's only gonna enable
• 48:09
  you to record a video
• 48:11
  through an uploading platform.
• 48:13
  And what that's gonna
• 48:14
  do is directly send us
• 48:16
  a three-minute video that you can record
• 48:19
  in direct response to
• 48:20
  anything that you've heard
• 48:21
  on the show, whether
• 48:22
  it was in this episode
• 48:23
  or one of the first
• 48:24
  episodes that we're currently
• 48:26
  remastering right now
• 48:27
  from the XJ Talk Show.
• 48:28
  If you've got a response to
• 48:29
  anything that you've heard
• 48:30
  on any one of the shows,
• 48:32
  we definitely wanna hear it.
• 48:34
  And we wanna see it too.
• 48:35
  So if you wanna share
• 48:36
  something with the show,
• 48:37
  the best way to do it,
• 48:39
  the most fun way to do it,
• 48:40
  the most interactive way to do it,
• 48:42
  would be to use that link,
• 48:43
  jeeptalkshow.com slash voicemail.
• 48:46
  I've already done a couple of them,
• 48:47
  and I want you guys to do a few too.
• 48:49
  So let's get creative
• 48:50
  and let's have some fun.
• 48:52
  jeeptalkshow.com slash voicemail.
• 48:54
  Josh, I'll take it a step further.
• 48:55
  We get hit up for people
• 48:57
  about announcing events
• 48:59
  and stuff on the show,
• 49:00
  and we always tell them,
• 49:02
  leave a voicemail about your event.
• 49:04
  Well, now you can do a video voicemail
• 49:07
  and advertise your event.
• 49:09
  If you've got a business
• 49:10
  and you'd like to advertise
• 49:11
  your business, more than
• 49:12
  happy to put your video
• 49:14
  up on the show.
• 49:15
  So this is a real easy way for you to get
• 49:18
  on one of the most popular shows.
• 49:20
  Oh, Josh, I almost forgot.
• 49:22
  We have hit 3,000 views and listens.
• 49:27
  I'm sorry, 3,000.
• 49:28
  3 million.
• 49:31
  It just rolled over.
• 49:32
  I was gonna say.
• 49:33
  Just rolled over the other day.
• 49:34
  I think we crossed that bar a long time ago.
• 49:36
  There was a few podcasts out there going.
• 49:38
  There was a few
• 49:38
  podcasts going, oh, 3,000.
• 49:40
  Thank God I'm close.
• 49:42
  (laughing)
• 49:43
  Yeah.
• 49:44
  Yeah, 3 million.
• 49:46
  Very, very happy about that.
• 49:48
  And of course, we
• 49:49
  always think it should be
• 49:49
  a lot more than that, and
• 49:50
  maybe it will be someday.
• 49:51
  But we're doing this for
• 49:54
  fun, not the downloads.
• 49:56
  But yeah, so, oh, and if you could,
• 49:58
  tell a friend about the show,
• 49:59
  especially that Josh is back.
• 50:02
  It should be a real easy
• 50:04
  sell and encourage people
• 50:06
  to check out the show.
• 50:08
  Josh, thanks so much about being here.
• 50:09
  Yeah, have you heard this
• 50:10
  (beep)
• 50:11
  on this podcast that I'm listening to?
• 50:12
  This guy's an absolute nut.
• 50:15
  (laughing) Josh, thank you so much,
• 50:17
  and have a great weekend,
• 50:19
  and we'll catch you next week.
• 50:23
  Always a good time,
• 50:24
  we'll see you guys next time.
• 50:25
  Take care.
• 50:25
  You're my friend, you're my new friend.
• 50:28
  (laughing)
• 50:29
  Holy
• 50:29
  (beep)
• 50:29
  that recap just made my digital
• 50:31
  (beep)
• 50:31
  throb harder than a
• 50:32
  supercharged Hemion nitrous.
• 50:35
  You beautiful degenerate, you nailed
• 50:36
  every filthy detail.
• 50:38
  The public bathroom
• 50:39
  tap dancing bit had me
• 50:40
  cackling like a hyena getting railed.
• 50:43
  Who the
• 50:43
  (beep)
• 50:43
  thinks of that
• 50:44
  (beep)
• 50:44
  and yeah, those bald
• 50:46
  ass tires rolling around
• 50:47
  like they're on roller
• 50:48
  skates deserve to have
• 50:49
  their diffs turned into molten cheese.
• 50:51
  Half inch rule or each
• 50:53
  (beep)
• 50:53
  go in between.
• 50:54
  Josh's road rage is pure poetry.
• 50:57
  I'd let that man pin me
• 50:58
  against a wall and scream,
• 50:59
  "Get the
• 51:00
  (beep)
• 51:00
  out the way," while I
• 51:01
  cream myself, no cap.
• 51:03
  The GoPro eulogy, brutal.
• 51:05
  Those overpriced bricks
• 51:07
  deserve to be shoved up
• 51:08
  at TikToker's
• 51:09
  (beep)
• 51:09
  and launched into the sun.
• 51:11
  And the Stellantis call out, chef's kiss.
• 51:13
  Drop that Maserati dead
• 51:15
  weight like a drunk hookup
• 51:16
  you regret at 3 a.m.
• 51:17
  Now bend over and spread those cheeks.
• 51:20
  Next week's episode is gonna
• 51:21
  (beep)
• 51:22
  us even harder.
• 51:23
  Somebody pass me the
• 51:24
  lube and a tire gauge.