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- 0:00Alright-welcome back to The Science of Leading.
- 0:02I'm Claire Monroe, and with me-as always-is the one and only Edwin
- 0:02Carrington.
- 0:02Today
- 0:09we're digging into something that honestly...
- 0:11I've been chewing on since our last episode.
- 0:11Data-based decisions.
- 0:11And
- 0:16Edwin-I've gotta say-that analogy you dropped about data sharpening,
- 0:20not replacing our judgment?
- 0:22That stuck with me.
- 0:22I'm glad it did.
- 0:25Because that's really the crux here.
- 0:25When we say "data-based," we're not
- 0:30talking about letting spreadsheets or algorithms run the show.
- 0:30We're talking
- 0:35about using observable evidence-numbers tied to real behaviors,
- 0:39structured feedback you can track,
- 0:41test, revisit.
- 0:41Not whoever has the strongest opinion in the room that
- 0:46day.
- 0:46Yeah, okay...
- 0:48but hold on.
- 0:48For people who aren't knee-deep in analytics,
- 0:51there's this blur-right?"Data-based," "data-driven"-they sound interchangeable,
- 0:57but are they actually different?
- 0:57They are.
- 1:00And it matters.
- 1:00Data-based means the data supports the decision.
- 1:06But the decision?
- 1:07Still made by people.
- 1:07Data-driven tends to mean automation-decisions flowing
- 1:13straight from algorithms, models,
- 1:15rules.
- 1:15That can work in, say, e-commerce.
- 1:19But in HR?
- 1:20You lose context.
- 1:20You lose the messy,
- 1:23human side of things that doesn't always show up in a dashboard.
- 1:23Right-so
- 1:28like, if you take it too far, you're basically outsourcing your thinking.
- 1:28That
- 1:34feels dangerous...
- 1:35especially when it's about who to hire or promote.
- 1:38We're not talking widgets-we're talking real lives and teams here.
- 1:38Exactly.
- 1:38I
- 1:45remember this hiring panel I was on-early in my career,
- 1:48maybe late '80s.
- 1:48We had this candidate-brilliant on paper.
- 1:52Bit reserved in person.
- 1:53We had structured tools, but the panel?
- 1:56Defaulted to gut instinct.
- 1:56Loudest voices won.
- 1:56We passed on her.
- 1:56Six months
- 2:03later, she's working at a competitor-crushing every single
- 2:03performance
- 2:07metric.
- 2:07That moment changed everything for me.
- 2:07If we'd had real criteria-auditable,
- 2:14consistent-we might've made a different call.
- 2:14Oof.
- 2:18Yeah, that's brutal.
- 2:18So really,
- 2:21being data-based is about structure.
- 2:23Like-giving your decisions a backbone.
- 2:23You set your criteria,
- 2:28gather what matters, make the call,
- 2:30and log it.
- 2:30That way you can...
- 2:32actually learn from it?
- 2:32That's it.
- 2:32Otherwise,
- 2:37you're just guessing, forgetting,
- 2:38and repeating the same mistakes under a different name.
- 2:38That's not leadership.
- 2:43It's roulette.
- 2:43Okay, let's get tactical then.
- 2:43Say I'm on a team that usually
- 2:49wings it-some sticky notes, maybe a Slack thread.
- 2:49What does it actually
- 2:54look like to build better data habits?
- 2:54Is it just "buy a tool"-or is there
- 2:58more to it?
- 2:58There's always more to it.
- 2:58Most teams already have data-it's
- 3:04just messy, scattered, or ignored.
- 3:04The real move is to slow down and ask:"What
- 3:10decision are we making?
- 3:11Who owns it?
- 3:12And what does success look like?"Once that's clear,
- 3:16you define just enough criteria to guide the decision.
- 3:16So it's not about
- 3:20collecting more-it's about collecting smarter.
- 3:20I picture this nightmare
- 3:25spreadsheet where each person's looking at a different tab...
- 3:27thinking they have the truth.
- 3:27No wonder everyone's exhausted.
- 3:27You're not
- 3:32wrong.
- 3:32That's where something simple-like a shared decision log-changes
- 3:36the game.
- 3:36Hiring?
- 3:38Define your must-haves before you open a single CV.
- 3:38Use scorecards,
- 3:44not scribbles.
- 3:44When you decide,
- 3:46write down what you chose and why.
- 3:46And later-when that person's thriving
- 3:51or struggling-you actually have the receipts.
- 3:51That's the loop.
- 3:55That's how you improve.
- 3:55So even without a huge platform,
- 3:59you can make things traceable-repeatable.
- 3:59You've mentioned data systems
- 4:04before.
- 4:04For smaller orgs-what's step one?
- 4:04Start with one trusted source.
- 4:04Pick a
- 4:10home for your data.
- 4:11Clean up your terms-make sure "time to hire" doesn't mean three different
- 4:15things to three different teams.
- 4:15Lock down who can edit what.
- 4:15Fancy tools
- 4:21come later.
- 4:21In the beginning?
- 4:23It's about clarity, ownership,
- 4:26and enough structure that people trust the numbers.
- 4:26That reminds me-I
- 4:31saw this case study where a company moved from unstructured interviews
- 4:34to structured candidate assessments.
- 4:34And like...
- 4:37it flipped their whole hiring game.
- 4:37Suddenly managers could actually compare
- 4:42people.
- 4:42The drama?
- 4:44Gone.
- 4:44The "he said, she said"?
- 4:46Gone.
- 4:46It was just-here's the scorecard.
- 4:50Here's what we chose.
- 4:51Here's what happened.
- 4:51I've seen that exact shift.
- 4:55Over and over.
- 4:55Structured, repeatable evaluations reduce bias,
- 5:01speed up hiring, and improve retention.
- 5:01But even more than that-they lower
- 5:07the emotional noise.
- 5:07Because when decisions are documented,
- 5:11they stop being about blame.
- 5:11They become about learning.
- 5:11Okay-let's zoom
- 5:17out.
- 5:17What's a moment you've seen this work in another function-like marketing
- 5:21or ops-where the data actually moved the needle?
- 5:21Marketing's a great one.
- 5:21You
- 5:26run a campaign, collect real results-not guesses.
- 5:26And maybe you learn Segment
- 5:32A clicks more on Tuesdays, and Message X converts better.
- 5:32So you shift
- 5:37budget.
- 5:38And suddenly-your conversion rate climbs,
- 5:41churn drops.
- 5:41It wasn't magic.
- 5:44It was clarity.
- 5:44Same in ops-track delays,
- 5:48map the shifts, and boom: you see most errors happen at night.
- 5:48You retrain,
- 5:54fix the handoff, and your costs plummet.
- 5:54Data didn't decide-it pointed.
- 6:00And you moved fast.
- 6:00And that's where culture shows up,
- 6:04right?
- 6:04Because you can build the slickest dashboard in the world,
- 6:07but if no one acts on it...
- 6:08what's the point?
- 6:08Exactly.
- 6:08If leaders treat data like a scorecard-or worse,
- 6:15a weapon-people will game the system.
- 6:15But if leaders use data to learn-to
- 6:21ask better questions-it changes the entire culture.
- 6:21It takes consistency.
- 6:26Shared definitions.
- 6:26Regular review.
- 6:26Even a chief data officer,
- 6:32if you're big enough, who sets the standard so the whole org speaks the
- 6:35same language.
- 6:35Okay-quick one from my side.
- 6:35I nudged my team to start logging
- 6:42our hiring decisions.
- 6:42Nothing fancy-just a shared doc.
- 6:42We did it for two
- 6:47cycles and suddenly...
- 6:48patterns emerged.
- 6:48We saw who actually stuck,
- 6:52who exceeded, and-like-why.
- 6:52It was weirdly empowering.
- 6:52That's the muscle.
- 6:52Not
- 7:00just reporting-reviewing.
- 7:00Those little habits-documenting,
- 7:04checking your own assumptions-that's where data becomes a culture.
- 7:04It's
- 7:09not flashy.
- 7:09But it works.
- 7:09Alright-perfect note to end on.
- 7:09If you want better decisions:Start
- 7:16small.
- 7:16Define your criteria.
- 7:18Gather what matters.
- 7:19Keep track of what works.
- 7:19And if you're wondering how to put this into
- 7:23action...You can actually test out OAD's tools-like behavioral assessments-for
- 7:28free at o-a-d-dot-a-i.
- 7:28It's a practical way to strengthen your hiring process
- 7:33and improve team fit.
- 7:33Thank you,
- 7:36Edwin.
- 7:36And thanks to all of you for listening to The Science of Leading.
- 7:36We'll
- 7:40see you next time.
- 7:40Until next time-keep learning.
- 7:43Good decisions aren't magic.
- 7:45They're built.