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Play Dirty · Black Men Can't Jump [In Hollywood]

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[SPEAKER_04]: Happy New Year, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to 20, 20, see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, guys, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what we're going to enter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Can we try, let's, we're going to enter into some with some positivity, you know, because
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of things happening in the world, and it's crazy, but like, it's a new year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We can, we can set some goals.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got, you know, we can have a new mindset.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, we have a new country, so that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, we, oh, so we run Venezuela now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh, I heard that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did, I did, I did hear that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry to be positive.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was that was where I was playing dirty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh That was playing that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that I guess that counts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you really going to start off 2026 doing it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to play fair, but I was, you come to play, I mean, you come to play, I just want to know, is this, you're going to not stop in the bit, like, you're doing this for 20, 26.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You never know, you know me always playing dirty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I got a scala start to show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Woo, woo, woo!
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, can't jump.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to Blackman can't jump in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hollywood City.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh wait, that's you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hollywood City.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, that's, that's me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, wow, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or just, or just, or just a mess.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know what to do anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask what happens.
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[SPEAKER_04]: James, the third is in here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's, I don't have a quote from this movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a quote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to do a quote, but I don't have a quote.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what would the quote be?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me get into character.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Does he say that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says something like that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just a moment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I need a moment to get out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I need a moment to get out of character.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that was so funny because he does nothing that is like charactery the entire move he has no he has what's funny about it is he has no character So that's no No, that's the irony of that's the irony movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He keeps saying I'm he keeps saying he's going to play a care but in reality He has no character Wow, IMDB is not no oh, oh wait.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's I was saying the title wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's play dirty
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was saying playing dirty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look at you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what, what a way to start off this new year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is not, I'm going to tell you right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is not what we're going to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is not what we're going to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to be like this this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to be all disorganized.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, just,
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[SPEAKER_04]: or fumbling along, not sure what to say, not sure how to talk about a film that clearly doesn't have a black lead, even though, you know, and you're listening to this podcast, you don't even know what we're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I wanted to post it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you guys set up the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You set up the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Listen, we are a film review podcast.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We review the films of leading black actors in the context of race and diversity in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been doing this for over 10 years now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's going on 11.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, when we first started this, Oscars were so white that they named them that twice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, and then all this progress happened.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is all this, there is a movement.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a push, an awakening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: a wokening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: People are like, well, we got to get diversity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's, let's change the, let's add in more voters to the academy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's, let's get in more black creators.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's, let's make sure we are not just having white people tell white stories all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: have we have we though because this was the year that one of the lowest rates of people of color directors and women directors and well this is what I said that this is I was I was talking about the past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You meant 20.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we did the three months of 2020.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there was a buildup.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was it seemingly a ramp up for, you know, it started in like, I don't know, 2018.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were like, let's do this thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then 2020 was like, yeah, yeah, and then we're not there anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And in fact, maybe we're, it's old.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's tired.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so now where are we?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot of movies out and not a single one had a black lead and we didn't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were scramble it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I suggested a 2B movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, and Gerard was so desperate he said, let me go to 2B because 2B's got a bunch of black films.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They did?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's review what was the film?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What was the film?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, yeah, yeah, DM us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I suggested the Grinch that stole the bitches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Draw out here, thirsty, bro, that's where it's thirsty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of their biggest movies is called The Grinch, who stole the bitches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we're back, baby, we're back to the 70s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're worse than the 70s, because the 70s at least those Blacks boy station movies made it in theaters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You were saying, Pam Greer became a cross over a shaft, no, no, no, brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have revered it back to the 40s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I watched the two 48 test and I saw the apartment, which is a classic a film, it would best picture starring Jack Lemon and Shirley McLean and it's really, it's a fun, it's this rom-com set during Christmas to really fun movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and I was really enjoying it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then, uh, like, I wasn't even thinking about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just like, oh, it's a fun old movie black and white ball ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This fun stuff's happening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then at a certain point, I would say, I don't know, like an hour and 20 minutes into the movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, I didn't realize it until this person showed up and I was like, Oh, there's a black person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a black actor in this movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He comes in as the, as the Butler and he serves this man, I don't know, some food and the man gives him a tip and he says, Thank you, sir.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, Wow, he got a line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was his only line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's hate us right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on the Google.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That black actor is not even included.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he'll be way, way down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He had literally one line.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, thank you, sir.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's not even on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not on the page.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure he wouldn't be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So...
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[SPEAKER_04]: We are, so there are three of us who usually host this podcast, James O'Third is in here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The voice you're listening to now is the voice of someone who will no longer be assuming roles in movies, because they're not enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know what, I just gotta be myself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just gotta be me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And my name is Jonathan Brayla.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I am.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, what, I don't even understand what you, what does that even mean?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even, I'm not doing this bit anymore.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: there's not enough black rolls I can't be I can't pretend to be that somebody in the movie oh got it got it wait I mean you could pretend to be that no woman is a personal code no I mean there are I mean like you this in it you know but like I just I'm not going to do the bit anymore I just feel like this is my protest that got it got it got it got it two week it back to some semblance of reality I could
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, unless I guess this is our reality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the reality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, this waste that you hear, which is just trying to stay positive, is that of Jerome Melania?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we're doing here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're staying positive because you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I forgot to tell people, the director of this movie is Shane Black.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was like, okay, when it first started, I was like, all right, I can give this a chance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and his last name, I mean, he's white, but his last name is black.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: True.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Back up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Does that count for anything?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He may have a black friend.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so this film stars Mark Wahlberg as the clear cut lead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: LeKee Stanfield is on the poster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's strange though because like, number two, like his face broke.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They, and they're like, I think, does it appear before the title of the movie?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it does.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's like, Mark Wahlberg, LeKee Stanfield played dirty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He first appears 25 minutes into the film.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't be more of a sub...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean... Bro, he's not in this...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would venture to say that...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously Rosa Salazar, who's also in this film is a bigger role than he is.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would venture...
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean... She's a colleague.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's very...
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's fair to say Tony Shalub is a bigger role than the key this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In this film.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And heck, I would even say like Kigamagoki is like on par with the key like he's just he's in it just as much, basically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think like he may be like a little bit more since that's only because his scenes are only with not only, but he has a couple of scenes with more more more more more more more more more more more more more more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: right, which feel obligatory.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like, like they're not actually, I don't know if they actually advance the plot, the film, they're just like, showing he has a buddy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we're pretending the Keith is a big part of this, so we got to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to have a buddy, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which is an interesting thing to talk about like what that means, like the piece profile that they are doing that even though he's not as big a, I don't know, that's a discussion to have before we do that real quick.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is an Amazon movie straight to Amazon SDOD.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That being said, it's still had a production, but oh, actually they're not telling me what the production budget is smart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: because I imagine this cost a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I mean, bro, they had a whole CGI thing at the end.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this feels like it costs a lot of money, but they're keeping that a secret, which means it costs them so much money that it definitely shouldn't have cost that at that money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, here's some interesting things according to I contour, according to Wikipedia, because this is based off of a book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is based off of a series called the Parker book series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That was written under the pen name Richard Stark, but the real person isn't Donald E. West Lake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: which I don't really know anything about these, those books.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard about it at all, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But according to Wikipedia, Robert Downey Jr. was attached to film as an actor prior to Mark Wahlberg's involvement.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then in January 2024, the Keith Stanfield joined the cast to portray a girlfriend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, who was a part of the cast before my Wahlberg?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Le Keith?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Robert Downey Jr. was going to do it first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: got it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all him and his wife produced it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So this is saying that team Downey and Shane Black began working together on this project in March 2022 with Black having adapted a script from the Parker novels with Charles Mondry and Anthony Magarosi with Black said as a director.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Producers included Susan Downey for for team Downey, is that her is that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Robert Downey's voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so then they work with Producers Joe Silver, but then Joe Silver was replaced.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then it says that Black repurposed the film's title, Play Dirty from his unused screenplay for Leet the Web in two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then, but if that was the case, it was the unreleased, you would have had more of Keith because he would have been right in for a Black answer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is what I, this is the thing that I'm so curious about because they have them both on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: the poster and they like it's I think the movie is advertised as it is like some sort of I mean they're both crooks so it's like what if we delete the weapon but instead of cops they're criminals like it's some team duo but it's not a team like like he is no more a part of this team than to me any other person who was a part of this team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: like he's he's not important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's in this and at one point I thought I thought they were going to treat him like Brad Pitt and Ocean so when I was like, okay, this is the right hand man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be doing he's going to he's the one who's really going to have the plan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the one that's going to be doing a bunch of stuff and it wasn't and the thing is is
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this movie would have been better served if it was a two-hander between him and like he versus him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what is the actress's name, Rosalina?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rosas Salazar, Rosas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's no just to hurt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like that made no sense to me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Just no, you don't buy it ever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh, okay, so people who you may know Rosas Salazar, she was a leader in a leader battle in Joe, which is a film that I don't think did very well, but it had it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, talk about a huge budget.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I did see that movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know who's in that movie?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Boyz movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Marhurstil is in that film.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's called a lead a battle angel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks on that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mar, yeah, uh, Marhurstil isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, she's also in the maze runner series that those, um, I thought that was only boys in it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was in the first one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But then when they come out, there are girls.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So she's in the scorched trials in the death cure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because there was a girl's maze.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a girl's maze.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They find out there was a girl's maze.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The same thing was happening for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I legit only remember the first movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, why would you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think the other movies did as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I read, I went up reading the whole, I read all those books.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, they're page turners.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're really fun, like they're not good, but they're like, they're like, you know, they're interesting enough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You may have noticed we haven't talked much about play dirty, the actual film.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we were setting it up, we're setting it up, we're setting it up, we're setting it up, we're setting the stage, because we're not too made, it has a 42% critic score and a 42%
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[SPEAKER_04]: popcorn meter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The audience and critics agree.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This movie is 42 percent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's not a lot of time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's some unity and I like that unity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need that unity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Heck yeah, I'm like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this movie though.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got, and Tessa said, Tessa was like, is he really on the poster or was he just on your thumbnail because they know like actors?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh snap, but then I, I've looked it up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it, no, he's on the, I think he's on the poster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like he's on the real poster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on the website.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is this?
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on the real poster and also he was above the title credits.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like anyway, it wasn't like and including or like,
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like, he'd stand field like they do sometimes, you know, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, he's on the, I'm looking at he's on the, he's on the, he's on the poster to it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just the two of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the movie is not about the two of them in any, he's way shape or four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, right, are you telling me that they made this movie selling a black actor who does nothing in the movie?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And here's the other thing I was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see the running
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[SPEAKER_04]: I did not, not the running man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, sorry, not the running man remake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, uh, what's the one that Channing Tatum was in?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, oh, roof man, roof man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I actually said I wanted to see that, but um, it was out of theaters before I could like watch it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought it was like it was definitely uh, it was the entertaining film.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Lequit's fanfiltre's in that movie, playing to me a very similar role.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like the guy that the guy calls up and he's like, I need help, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, and he's like, okay man, but like, here's all the problems you're gonna be dealing with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, this is the exact same role he's face with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, in this movie a little bit more,
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's like, it's like the same movie.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, they just call it the key to just be the black dude that like a white guy calls to be like, hey, help me out with some criminal stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, kind of, because I'd say it is right now.
17:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He is in another movie that I think I can't say because it's a spoiler, but it is another movie that is white led with two white people.
17:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And he appears in that movie to throw the leads.
17:33
[SPEAKER_02]: around a little bit.
17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that character's a little better.
17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: No, most not.
17:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That movie's awful.
17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awful.
17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway.
17:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
17:43
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so shall we do another one?
17:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Does anything else say?
17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll go, I didn't like this movie and it sucks because I like Shane Black.
17:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think the thing reason I don't like it is because I think everything about what Mark Wahlberg character does in this movie makes no sense.
18:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think, correct.
18:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And it just makes no sense.
18:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact to be honest, I don't like that he did not shoot that woman immediately.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I get if you wanted to get the money, but then at that point, we needed to see it on camera.
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't like that.
18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Keith was so under service.
18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Keena Michael, Keena Michael, Keena was under, if you're gonna have Keegan in it, Keegan needs to be slinging jokes, not stop.
18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they put Keegan in a costume and he barely had any time to even do weird voices and I thought the highest aspect of it was not fun, which was just very shocking.
18:34
[SPEAKER_02]: There was so much death, like at one point in this movie, I was like they're shooting everybody.
18:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like also like that like the train crash I happened I'm like how many people died in that The whole time I was like man there's casualties, but yeah, I didn't enjoy it Honestly, I think I saw one of your um When do your reviews of another movie of animated movie and this movie is very unforgettable like I felt like Watching this movie it was going right out by yeah like it was just going right out of my head right out of my head so
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: How do we even talk about it?
19:09
[SPEAKER_02]: LeKent's barely in at one point, brain at one point.
19:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, you know what, I'ma go upstairs, make my bear clean the sink, and I had a TV on the out.
19:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, here is voice.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I come back downstairs.
19:21
[SPEAKER_02]: My man had just come back.
19:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't so much with Mark Wahlberg, it rose.
19:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That he was gone for like the middle of the movie.
19:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He's barely in the movie.
19:31
[SPEAKER_04]: be really is.
19:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, also like I did there was that carry Washington movie that came out earlier than my cousin.
19:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So just that I we review a shadow force, but like it's only on stars.
19:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, oh, the oh, the one where her and the guy who the world wants me to believe is one of the greatest disguised busiest buyers of it.
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
19:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That every time I see a god-dying trailer for that show,
19:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Break time out looping the man is a giant so good.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: The man is a giant, right?
20:04
[SPEAKER_04]: So fun Anywho play dirty.
20:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so We'll get a bunch of stuff
20:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I think your analysis is on point there is no there basically is no character development for anybody outside of Rosa like she's the only person who has a character that makes any sort of semblance of sense.
20:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
20:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Um the character for like Parker like Mark Wahlberg's character like why is he so good?
20:33
[SPEAKER_04]: He supposedly is only doing this for money, but then at the end, I remember at the end of the movie when he kills the big bad.
20:42
[SPEAKER_04]: He says, he's like, nobody tells me where I can't walk.
20:46
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, you said that, you said that an hour and 30 minutes into the film.
20:50
[SPEAKER_04]: like that like don't pretend like this is you this was your thing all the time like that was never your thing you just like me wrote you like wrote it into the script like halfway through the like a little more than halfway through the script and he said that and I was like that was never your thing like earlier on you didn't want to face the outfit you were scared of the outfit like and now all of a sudden you're not scared of them like whatsoever
21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I understand, yeah, no, no, but to to your point, what makes me so annoyed about that is that he didn't even want to go on this mission, so Yeah, yeah, like you're saying was like he didn't want to go on this mission and all of a sudden.
21:24
[SPEAKER_04]: He was only doing it for money And then he winds up not even getting money by the end of this movie, right?
21:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you know basically has no money.
21:30
[SPEAKER_04]: He blows up a lot of the money So it's like what he kept like the jewels or like the he kept a few couple of jewels
21:39
[SPEAKER_04]: which I don't even understand where he got those.
21:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I didn't even understand that.
21:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't either.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, when did, when did diamonds and jewels come in your clothes?
21:49
[SPEAKER_04]: When did you ever get these?
21:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
21:50
[SPEAKER_04]: We're supposed to believe that one that they were somehow attached to this sculpture and to that you somehow picked up all these little tiny jewels like in that in that chaos?
22:02
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you didn't.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It also, and you never heard about them before.
22:08
[SPEAKER_04]: This movie made no like I know with action movies it doesn't really like it's fine like sometimes you just throw stuff out the window but like the idea that they could have done all this stuff and not been caught by the police is just like so far fetched I just like couldn't even you mean to shoot out in Jersey or just a new Jersey street they just had a straight up gunfight I mean there are so many there are so many things
22:37
[SPEAKER_04]: committed a terrorist act.
22:39
[SPEAKER_04]: They crashed an MTA subway train onto the streets of New York.
22:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That clearly killed at least the dozen people if not more.
22:53
[SPEAKER_04]: And then had a shoot out after he did that.
22:56
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're shooting at the cops.
22:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're trying to tell me they were not going to get like, the idea that, and they weren't wearing, it's not like they were wearing mask the whole time.
23:05
[SPEAKER_04]: They have their faces everywhere.
23:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, do you know how much CCTV footage?
23:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, they would have of them?
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we don't talk about it.
23:12
[SPEAKER_02]: None of it makes sense, none of it, none of it.
23:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're so crazy about it, too, is that, first off, that scene you're talking about, somehow, like, Keith, oh yeah.
23:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's, that's the part of like finance and action movie, but it's just like, no, no.
23:32
[SPEAKER_04]: No, well, yeah, because you're, anyway, so the other thing that the thing that's most annoying is just the character development and how the Keith had none, like when we first see him, and I basically only really want to talk about the Keith, because that's why we reviewed and that's why we're doing it anyway.
23:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, so we first see him.
23:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It's 25 minutes into the film.
23:53
[SPEAKER_04]: So this whole double cross that said, oh my god, we even talked about the beginning of this movie freaking Mark Hopper has somehow is Superman chases this guy down who's driving a car on foot.
24:08
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just running after him.
24:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
24:21
[SPEAKER_04]: in the broad daylight at a horse track, where there are people in cameras everywhere, and somehow he gets away, and there aren't police like, what?
24:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it makes zero sense.
24:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And so then they all, they get all like a double cross by Rosa, she kills everybody, shoots him, he goes into, he falls into a river, but then immediately is okay.
24:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, first of all, we gotta talk about it.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: We gotta talk about the shoot I'll see.
24:48
[SPEAKER_02]: First off, she's chilling, she's new to the group, which is insane to go on a, like, is this saying to have one new person to me, that no one knows, no one knows.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden, her way to distract them is to basically get naked, and then she's there by her hand.
25:03
[SPEAKER_04]: She's there by her hand.
25:04
[SPEAKER_04]: She's with up with a see-through bra.
25:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And then shoot everybody up.
25:08
[SPEAKER_02]: At some point, I was like,
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what is this scene?
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what is it like?
25:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, why do movies think that every, but like people can just like, I take out a gun, shoot, shoot, shoot.
25:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Somehow managed to go shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.
25:29
[SPEAKER_04]: All these people who also have guns right by them.
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: No one gets shot off.
25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: No one raises her at any point.
25:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, anyway, whatever, that's, that's whatever, so when we finally seal a key, he just, he's, he has his own theater.
25:50
[SPEAKER_04]: and a tax account and it's talking to him and saying, hey, you can't operate five years in the red.
25:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's not possible.
26:02
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to pay income tax.
26:03
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, well, I'm not making income.
26:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And so to me, I was like, oh, this is funny.
26:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is his front, right?
26:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is his money laundering place.
26:13
[SPEAKER_04]: But then, as the movie progresses, we come to find out no, he actually does care about the theater
26:21
[SPEAKER_04]: the entirety of his character in this film is like, he likes acting?
26:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but we know, see, I don't even mind that.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't think if he was the one playing characters.
26:31
[SPEAKER_02]: If he was doing what, I mean, if he was doing what Keegan was doing, and like, I'm a master of disguise or something.
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
26:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels so added on and feels like they were like, okay, like this was not a part of the key thing at all and they were like, well, we got like Keith, we got this bigger name for the movie.
26:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We have to give them something and they were like, I don't know, what about this theater thing we do?
26:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and then they just like backtracked into it, and then they're like, well, we have Keegan play, like Keegan needs to play this role.
27:02
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, well, then we'll have to add in a joke about why the Keith isn't playing it.
27:06
[SPEAKER_04]: And the joke is, why don't you play the role of shutting the F up?
27:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Which, so not, we won't explain it.
27:12
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll just throw out a curse and that will, that.
27:16
[SPEAKER_04]: So then you'll be satisfied as the audience.
27:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, no, I'm not satisfied.
27:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I want to know who this guy is.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is this guy?
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And why?
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, why is he doing any of it?
27:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is he doing any of it?
27:26
[SPEAKER_04]: Is he actually doing this to fun theater?
27:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Does he actually care about theater?
27:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually can't, I still can't really tell.
27:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Neither can I, because the end of the movie, Mark Wahlberg goes, you don't like theater, you just like stealing.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he literally says like, you have a theater to steal from people to fun in the theater.
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you just like stealing.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how it ends.
27:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, it ends with the key coming back and saying the end.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, bro, what is this?
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that was so silly.
27:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what was so crazy is, is, so I, I don't want to talk about another movie.
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But I saw this other movie that is very popular.
28:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It has a very, you probably have, I'm not going to say.
28:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you just say it?
28:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't like spoiled, because it would be spoiled after another movie.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,
28:15
[SPEAKER_02]: it's another very popular movie that came out on Christmas Day.
28:19
[SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a black character that appears in that movie and almost does the exact same thing as like Keith and his movie.
28:26
[SPEAKER_02]: He shows up.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear he has an interest or family, but his motivation is only to help the white guy do the thing that that guy needs to do.
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That job puts that black man in danger.
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess at least in this movie, but Mark Wahlberg, they have an ending together that is cute and fun, but for the most part,
28:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Neither, neither character has an arc.
28:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They have no agency.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They have nothing.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
28:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the arc is supposed to be for Mark Wahlberg is that he, like, finally, like cares about something other than himself.
29:02
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, we don't know enough about him for the movie to really know that, like, and like, it's not, he's not a good guy.
29:13
[SPEAKER_04]: He, like, kills people pretty.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's like, for kills everybody and think about that.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That bothers me is that again, this movie just shot, I don't, I didn't like how to move me handle the violence a little bit.
29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he just was so much and just so frivolous.
29:30
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just like, any and everybody was just get merged for what reason I do not know, but it wasn't even dealt, it didn't feel like it was dealt with like in a serious way.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It driveles don't what it all it was no stakes.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It was no stakes.
29:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's no stakes.
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally when Mark Wahlberg first runs up on Rose and the other guys there, he shoots that guy so quick.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: How that guy gets back up again makes no sense.
29:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he shoots him again and she goes, oh, you killed them twice.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, there's no, there's no, she had just got shot.
30:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It's supposed to be funny.
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but she just got shot and then she went.
30:08
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she got her a bit of her ear.
30:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll shot off.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Which if you know this we never saw correct the Trump here.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: She got the Trump here.
30:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's right Did they do that on purpose?
30:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, remember remember when I'm president got shot in the air and do you remember?
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: We never saw a bruise or nothing We're living you just got grazed.
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It was bleeding I don't take much to bleed
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
30:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get shot and it goes past your ear, there is a mark that is left.
30:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
30:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never gotten shot in the ear.
30:46
[SPEAKER_02]: If I slash your ear, it's going to be a cut.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's cartilage.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't grow back pretty quick.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it?
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Where the doctor's at?
31:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Look.
31:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, this movie, I don't even know what this movie, I mean, I guess it was just supposed to be a fun, high-smoothie.
31:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I did like, I do think that, like, Tony Shulub is like a great actor and so it was like kind of fun to see him.
31:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the Keith was charming in this, it was just that, like,
31:24
[SPEAKER_04]: there's he literally has no character like he has no stakes to this like outside of just like the stakes are just like they all want money which is fine but like because like you know that's like allotions 11 kind of thing but to me the thing is the main character of that movie George Clooney actually has stakes which is he's doing this as revenge and he could possibly ruin it for everybody else because he cares about the revenge aspect more so than the money aspect right
31:54
[SPEAKER_04]: inherent tension between him and Brad Pitt and the rest of the crew because of that.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And like him and Julia Roberts trying to get her back, right?
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, screwing over.
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, minute it.
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but like we don't, but in this movie, like that's supposed to be that he lied about the outfit, but it's one because we barely know the Keith and because like we don't really understand like,
32:20
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't see, like he, he just is like he feels like he's barely a character.
32:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it doesn't feel like there's a real tension between them.
32:28
[SPEAKER_04]: So that scene where he's like, you lied to me.
32:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I literally was like, oh, I don't even remember him saying that, actually.
32:32
[SPEAKER_04]: But sure, I'm sure he did.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't remember it.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know the history between the two of them.
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
32:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they keep saying, oh man, Parker's back.
32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I should have stepped in immediately.
32:49
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what we just know that they had some sort of deal.
32:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
32:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
32:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He's thought, well, we do.
32:54
[SPEAKER_04]: They did tell us, I guess, he stole from them at some point.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: John Wick, one, John Wick.
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The moment the guy says, who's car and dog you stole?
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, some John Wick guy, who?
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he goes through the list of all the things that John Wick has done.
33:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody, John Leklezamo is in that movie.
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They talk about the things that John Wick has done.
33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That guy from Mindy Project who's a cop shows up at the house and goes, hey,
33:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not back, right?
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: We know who this, this is a build-up of who this man is.
33:31
[SPEAKER_02]: If this guy is that famous, the girl should have been nervous when she shot Adam in the first place.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there was no fear of her of being killed by him.
33:41
[SPEAKER_04]: At this point, I think she didn't know who he was at that point.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is fun.
33:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But to me is at a certain point, you gotta know, in at a certain point, you realize you killed his whole team.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: the whole team.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I know she was care for two seconds and then started making jokes.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like bro, this is, you killed his friend.
34:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He's making jokes.
34:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Who was like married to a sister?
34:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Which I guess is why we cheap dies in the end.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we didn't see it.
34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we didn't, but
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Because she had a noble cause, because I remember at one point, she said at the very beginning, you want to just give me your money, huh?
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this movie is topical, because they went in to take out a dictator.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I guess that's right.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We did that for free.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh.
34:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We're in a simulation.
34:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, it's like he lied to Mark Wahlberg or he told Mark Wahlberg that the whole thing was done to set him up.
34:53
[SPEAKER_04]: and yet the police aren't there.
34:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I just was like, what, like, none of that makes any sense.
35:01
[SPEAKER_04]: It just was like, because it just felt like there were no rules to where they were.
35:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I almost was like, well just if you want to be like a fast in the furious movie like do you do that but like you're not I don't know no I don't want to be I don't want to be I don't like do you want to be Oceans 11 do you want to be like what do you want to be like is he a superhero cuz he feels like it's sometimes like when he like he like gets he gets like thrown off of cars It goes through windows and then immediately gets back up and starts running and I'm just like, but that's not a human being he doesn't lip
35:37
[SPEAKER_04]: He never would have never scratched his never bleached.
35:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He's barely bleeding in this movie.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Brody had him out in a cold in his underwear.
35:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he threw into it.
35:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Ice cold water on him.
35:49
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he was fine.
35:50
[SPEAKER_04]: His reflexes were quick as hell.
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't shiver.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't shiver.
35:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He took a coat and then put no pants on and no shoes and just.
36:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Also like I don't understand like these guys
36:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Lock him up, throw a hot water out of him.
36:09
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, we're gonna get out of here.
36:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Another car comes, and they're like, okay, maybe they're here early.
36:14
[SPEAKER_04]: And then one guy goes, will you go check it out?
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
36:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Why would they do that?
36:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Why wouldn't you just run away immediately?
36:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Why would you, why would you do not just take out your guns and run away?
36:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Because they'd be, they'd be no movie.
36:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Why would you stay there?
36:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Like so many things like, didn't make any sense in this movie.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's quite unfortunate.
36:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's the way I put it.
36:39
[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't win when when when Tony salutes runs up on him at the end of the film and then shoots his phone.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, why would you not shoot him?
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you waiting for?
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You clearly don't like him.
36:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You said multiple times how you don't like him.
36:53
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this about?
36:55
[SPEAKER_04]: You see the thing right there.
36:56
[SPEAKER_04]: You have the thing that you need.
36:57
[SPEAKER_04]: He's right there.
36:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Shoot him immediately.
36:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Shoot him in the head.
37:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Shoot him in the head and then everything's done.
37:02
[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
37:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Makes no sense.
37:05
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you need to talk to him for?
37:06
[SPEAKER_04]: For what?
37:07
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't have any reason to talk to him.
37:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It was annoying because earlier in the movie, they had that moment of a guy being like, you can kill me and if you want, and it was just like, okay, and then shit shoots him.
37:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And I thought that was so funny because I was like, yeah, that's what would happen in real life.
37:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you don't listen to somebody's dying words.
37:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you don't get a crap about what this guy has to say.
37:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You shoot him.
37:28
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, he's the guy who's in, you know what I mean?
37:31
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was just like, so you did it before.
37:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And a certain part of me was like, did you just do that before so that you could not do it now?
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you do before?
37:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I generally don't know.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I Let's move it me.
37:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I find sometimes you watch and moving you go I can made a movie I was like I kind of made a movie like this was also one of the movies watching the keeps career
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[SPEAKER_02]: put this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still think he's in high demand, but also I feel like now looking at how big the people were from Atlanta, like even Zaz, he I feel like everyone was working, but they're not working at at the pristine level as they were before, and I do feel like that's because that I'm being very particular with care about black artists has went away in such a way,
38:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we all know the conversations happen about like we're on a cooler, but when I look at like television and film, I'm like, man, we just are not leading movies and shows like leading.
38:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Like not the number two or like the best friend, but I agree, I'm wondering, what do you think about this?
38:58
[SPEAKER_04]: To me,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's in so many movies and he's such a big name that they hit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He knows, producers know, if I put this guy in the movie and have his name in the film, more people are gonna see it.
39:16
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're also like, we don't want you to lead the movie.
39:19
[SPEAKER_04]: So he's just getting these like smaller parts where he's in the movie, but not like a big part of it.
39:26
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
39:27
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're using him, emotionally like he's a big part of it because they're trying, because they are using his name, because he is a big enough name that he could be leading.
39:36
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, he should be, he should be, but he's, he rarely does, you know, I think about him.
39:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I think about him.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I think about, um, uh, John Boyega, like, there's so many.
39:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He's where it's John Boyega.
39:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Daniel Kool, I've never seen his last name.
39:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I believe you.
39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I Daniel Kaluia, like there's so many black men, men in particular,
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the keys, maybe if this was an honest movie, third bill, fourth, fourth, fourth, fourth, right.
40:14
[SPEAKER_02]: If this movie was honest, I think about like one bout after another.
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But, for it to focus so much on blackness, it's, you know, it's one black beauty who does and I think he had like two words.
40:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, outside of centers, which is so focused on our skin color,
40:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even if you look at Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme has, like, like, talented creator does nothing.
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
40:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you, I mean, this, yeah, it's so, it's, it's great.
40:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, usually there's, like,
40:47
[SPEAKER_04]: at least like, oh, here's the black movie during a word season.
40:51
[SPEAKER_04]: And that they were like, well, we had centers.
40:53
[SPEAKER_04]: But like, centers came out in April.
40:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Usually there's at least like one or two in December, you know?
40:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's like nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then look at the conversation around the centers.
41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at, look at how variety in particular, talk about centers versus talking about Marty Supreme.
41:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
41:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just a conversation alone is so fascinating to me.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know,
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Thinking of the sinners of it all, like I know there's so many hopes on like not only black people, but just like original movies and content and hope about sinners, but I'm like the way white media is talking about that movie, man, I'm.
41:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Passively optimistic about his chances at winning anything.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so this.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: What else is there to even say?
41:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, you know what, I'm going to send you right now.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to send you a chat.
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you and Scott are the trailer to the Grinch that stole the bitches.
41:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like y'all don't understand.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like y'all don't understand.
42:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it not even popping up on YouTube?
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, it's not even popping up on YouTube.
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's their trailer?
42:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, see, no one respects to me.
42:11
[SPEAKER_02]: At least they're making black movies, I guess.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait, I found it.
42:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I found it.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we've been doing.
42:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I'mma tell y'all, I'mma tell y'all right now, everyone at home watched this trailer because you gonna know we should have dead it.
42:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Also like the idea that they like, like the big part of this heist is just
42:33
[SPEAKER_04]: is one that wasn't real and then the second part of the heist is them just like going to this place that's supposed to be one of the most secure places ever.
42:44
[SPEAKER_04]: They got two security guards that worth the entire building neither of whom are like both of them are absolute morons.
42:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Somehow police aren't called while this heist is happening, which doesn't make a lick of sense.
42:58
[SPEAKER_04]: And all these chases, I'm just like, how do they not kill like this man?
43:03
[SPEAKER_04]: How did no one get any, anything happening to him?
43:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know man.
43:10
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I love at the end where they just drive out.
43:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's this all this this huge gun battle happening.
43:15
[SPEAKER_04]: They just like drive around it and leave it.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Do windows don't even get cracked.
43:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Did they have like a bulletproof car?
43:19
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
43:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Why, man?
43:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone just let me just let me make a move, eh!
43:28
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43:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a real weirdness.
43:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a real weird.
43:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, uh, what else?
43:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm making a bunch of black movies on it.
44:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Trapping in the New Year.
44:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We could watch trapping in Christmas for Christmas.
44:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, man, why did they do this?
44:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, but anyway, that's where I'm at.
44:09
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I guess like the whole the big thing of this movie is supposed to be like, oh, they're robbing people who are robbing somebody else, but like,
44:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Also like also to in the beginning is this just some random dad who decides to rob these people and then has his kid his wife and his kid in the back Oh, no, they say later that was our boyfriend.
44:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess.
44:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's a boy for it But I still is just like what the hell Yeah, this whole thing was weird man.
44:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man
44:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I really have nothing else to say about it.
44:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really know the thing that I'm interested in is that fact that Lequeeth is clearly popular enough that they put his name on the poster because they know that he'll get people to see it, but they don't want to make him a lead.
44:55
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's like he like, and the reason I bring out sending me all Jackson is because like,
45:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there were a lot of black actors like this like Morgan Freeman Samuel Jackson like before like the reason we started this podcast was because like There were only like a handful of black actors who were leading films like Denzel and Will Smith and then eventually like Jamie Fox and there are a lot of black actors who are popular, but they were rarely the leads like Samuel Jackson like Morgan Freeman like
45:26
[SPEAKER_04]: for switaker right like they were it's like a lot of supporting rules like you'll you know who they are they keep popping up but they're always a supporting role character and i feel like the key this like that person now like he's the new one of those like he's like in a lot of movies he's his name he's has a name everybody knows who he is so he can help
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I feel like these other people are not as popular as the Keith.
45:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's a lot of black actors.
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I didn't see running man, but I know the black guy from all American was in it.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I look at like Marty Mix, I mean, look like Tyler's a creator.
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at, you know, a side-broke who's acting in a bunch of movies.
46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: He was in, if I had legs, I would kick you as this kind of secondary black character, who we really don't know anything about what helps to white-lead.
46:22
[SPEAKER_02]: F1, F1, damn soon, isn't that movie in, you know, he's really good in it, but he is truly on Braps team, he's in there to serve Braps hit.
46:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like it's in it and I do think it's very particular man.
46:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I like I do think it's very particular with black men.
46:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
46:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we have a lot of representation with black women, so I'm not saying that at all, but you know, I do think there's a couple outlier movies.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, you know, as another movie coming out with Kiki Palmer, and it's a Bootsie movie.
47:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I know like we have one ball after another.
47:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we keep seeing like we're making it to pop up in things and like lead a movie here and yeah, I keep seeing like, you know, that's how I'm saying.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I find we're seeing it, which is wonderful, but I'm like, man, there is something actively happening where there's like an erosier of black, black, black male lead movies and projects.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Ratio.
47:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm like, what is happening?
47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know.
47:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, we're positive this year.
47:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's 2026 though.
47:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, it's a better year.
47:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I think it's a better year no matter what and also like we've run Venezuela now.
47:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess we'll say that.
47:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's do that.
47:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Let no.
47:52
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, it's time for the cause.
47:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Your rating review films not based on how much we like them, but whether or not they help the cause and more leading black actors in Hollywood.
47:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So if it fully helps the cause, we give it a black fist.
48:01
[SPEAKER_04]: If it's someone helps the cause, we give it a white palm.
48:03
[SPEAKER_04]: If it doesn't really help the cause at all, we don't give it anything.
48:05
[SPEAKER_04]: On the count of three, Jura, and I will raise up our ratings for this movie.
48:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Three, two, one.
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: This hasn't happened in a long time.
48:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this movie is nothing.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
48:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
48:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It gets nothing for me because anything.
48:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Why can't you have no character?
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It helped nobody.
48:30
[SPEAKER_04]: It helped a little bit.
48:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm glad he can send it in a movie, but it didn't help him.
48:35
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
48:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he barely got to do anything.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, for the most part, I forgot he was in it.
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It until he's barely in it.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: We spoke about him.
48:43
[SPEAKER_04]: He's funny when he's in it, but like like he had that like that that scene in the subway thing was funny But that was basically the only real scene.
48:51
[SPEAKER_04]: They got that outside of like little lines here and there That other kid got more stuff.
48:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he was fun too.
48:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's not key in.
49:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly It was so funny is I'm like, what movie do we even do next week has a blind line?
49:09
[SPEAKER_02]: There is nothing
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Net and now went to the same act in class in New York.
49:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really.
49:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Him into the line.
49:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got a lot of balance.
49:20
[SPEAKER_04]: You got a lot of bits in this movie.
49:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
49:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he was he's pretty further also.
49:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, yes.
49:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I was full.
49:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, from her, from hereditary.
49:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, yep, the act in class.
49:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's famous.
49:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Chakuri, Chakuri, Yuji, Chakuri, Yuji, Chakuri, the guy who was the billionaire.
49:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, because he was the villain.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right, right, he was an unmarble.
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And DC, he's a James gun guy.
49:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, who is, yeah, he was the guy.
49:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Gallet was he got Gallet.
50:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was the last Guardians.
50:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He also was in season one of a
50:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, yeah.
50:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I like him.
50:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was barely in it and like that the idea that a billionaire wouldn't have their own security team was just out.
50:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Makes no sense makes no sense I was like you're trying to tell me he's a billionaire.
50:21
[SPEAKER_04]: This dude has zero security.
50:23
[SPEAKER_04]: This dude can be kidnapped in the middle of a restaurant.
50:27
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's not happening.
50:29
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not happening.
50:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, deserves nothing, deserves absolutely nothing.
50:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we are going to do shorter podcasts this year.
50:44
[SPEAKER_04]: That's something we are going to stick to.
50:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, because where we at now.
50:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, perfect.
50:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just yeah, exactly.
50:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, you can find us at Blackman podcast on Twitter and Instagram.
50:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, not Twitter, threads and Instagram.
51:00
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51:17
[SPEAKER_04]: we've done the things these days, and, but it does, but you know, that helps.
51:22
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51:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Check that out.
51:26
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51:28
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51:36
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51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, James is in here, but you can follow James at rule of three.
51:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Inc. Yeah, really.
51:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three, Inc. Really.
51:45
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51:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this comes out in a time.
51:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a show with this Friday stand up at the a lesion in Los Angeles.
51:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a late show.
51:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going for vibes.
51:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's 10 30.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which we treat in LA like New York.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're about to be outside late.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Screw it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come 30.
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52:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I like this.
52:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I missed this.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is from Junior 1372.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Great show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Love it.
52:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Feel like I'm not understanding your guy.
52:30
[SPEAKER_04]: This is back in October.
52:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Feel like I'm not understanding your guy's views of sat, sat, tire, black comedy.
52:36
[SPEAKER_04]: If you think the latest PTA is in a comedy in any way,
52:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Paul Thomas Anderson, basically one battle after another, is that what I was asking about?
52:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, did we say that it wasn't a comedy in any way?
52:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember that, but I don't know.
52:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Either, I feel like it is respectfully.
52:54
[SPEAKER_04]: There is definitely comedy in it.
52:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a drama with a- I don't, yeah, I don't think it's a, I don't think it's just a comedy.
53:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I understand there is black comedy in it, but like,
53:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess I still felt like a drama to me.
53:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Like there was a very serious like themes and anyway.
53:17
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't know.
53:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I understand that the sometimes they Hollywood likes to just with anything that like people thinks that I mean, people are like can call succession of comedies.
53:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So whatever.
53:27
[SPEAKER_04]: there we had there is no comedies anymore.
53:29
[SPEAKER_04]: No there's no movies that are strictly made to make people laugh and that's it I want this in everything condition calm everything so freaking hybrid mix work.
53:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah Yeah, yeah, I'm just funny and I want this to accommodate that's a that's clearly a have you seen it?
53:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen that it didn't look good to me, but I don't know maybe I'll see it.
53:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think it looked good either But then I saw like people be like oh, it was actually Trying to make you laugh.
53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know
53:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, somebody else, let us know via a one-star review that we have at that there are ice ads that a couple of people told us that before.
54:07
[SPEAKER_04]: So we have, we have, we have basically red circle, when red circle does ads, they like.
54:15
[SPEAKER_04]: They do just whatever, they just put ads on our podcast.
54:19
[SPEAKER_04]: So depending on what area you're in, whoever buys those things, like, I don't know, we never see them.
54:25
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't do ad reads for that, but yeah, apparently I somehow ran ads through Red Circle and so those showed up.
54:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a podcast called Black Mink can jump in Hollywood.
54:37
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm sure they just bought them for pretty much any podcast that was like cheap.
54:43
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
54:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea.
54:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really know how to stop it.
54:46
[SPEAKER_04]: The only way we would, I don't know if we could, I guess we can like, we can ask Red Circle about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's still happening.
54:55
[SPEAKER_04]: If it is still happening, I'll let us know.
54:56
[SPEAKER_04]: We can like talk to somebody at Red Circle and hopefully they don't run those acts.
55:03
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's kind of like, if you listen to the radio,
55:07
[SPEAKER_04]: and all of a sudden ads came on.
55:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like, we're not like, we don't get to say what ads run or don't run, but I don't know how to get, I don't like this.
55:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like it either, but yeah, thank you for letting us know.
55:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, see you next week.
55:23
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Peace!