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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my friends? John Middlecoff,
- 0:19Speaker 1: that'd be me. Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully you are
- 0:22Speaker 1: doing well. Better than the Lions, who we just watched... Well,
- 0:27Speaker 1: you're listening to this on Monday, but I just watched
- 0:31Speaker 1: get lit up by Joe Montana, also known as Bryce
- 0:34Speaker 1: Young and the Carolina Panthers. We got a lot going
- 0:38Speaker 1: on today. We got the Eagles melting down. We got
- 0:41Speaker 1: the 49ers taking out Denver. We got the Raiders hanging
- 0:46Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. That was a hell of a game.
- 0:49Speaker 1: The Cowboys, CeeDee Lamb, I think just had another catch.
- 0:53Speaker 1: We got refs screaming at players. Lamar got injured. Jeremiah Smith,
- 1:00Speaker 1: I think, just caught another ball for Ohio State. So
- 1:02Speaker 1: we're going to talk a lot of football. I went
- 1:04Speaker 1: on with Colin, talked a lot of football. So a
- 1:07Speaker 1: lot of me today. If you're listening on Colin's feed,
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- 1:17Speaker 1: If you type in my name, it'll come up. So
- 1:19Speaker 1: let's just dive into some football. But I do want
- 1:24Speaker 1: to give some flowers where flowers are due. And that
- 1:28Speaker 1: is Bryce Young, Ted McMillan, and the Carolina Panthers. Because, one,
- 1:34Speaker 1: it was a little jarring to see them on Sunday
- 1:37Speaker 1: Night Football. My wife even looked at me and said, like,
- 1:39Speaker 1: this is, what's going on here? I'm like, well, this,
- 1:42Speaker 1: you know, they made the playoffs last year. She's like,
- 1:44Speaker 1: they were good. I'm like, well, they went 8-9, but
- 1:45Speaker 1: they had a valiant effort against the Rams and easy
- 1:49Speaker 1: team to kind of root for. And I don't know.
- 1:52Speaker 1: And then Collinsworth was like, yeah, it was their first
- 1:53Speaker 1: Sunday Night game in 11 years. And I got to
- 1:57Speaker 1: take the L on this. When they drafted McMillan eighth overall,
- 2:03Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of crazy. Now, I've been
- 2:05Speaker 1: wrong on Carolina draft picks before. Like the Keekly pick
- 2:09Speaker 1: at eight, honestly thought Christian McCaffrey at eight was a
- 2:12Speaker 1: little bold. Clearly took the L on that one as well.
- 2:16Speaker 1: But the one thing you see with McMillan, and I
- 2:18Speaker 1: think this goes for any good organization, you're not just
- 2:22Speaker 1: drafting an individual player. You're building a team. So how
- 2:27Speaker 1: does this guy fit, especially if you're drafting a wide receiver,
- 2:32Speaker 1: with your quarterback? And clearly their rapport. I finished with Colin.
- 2:37Speaker 1: I came in from the office, walked into the house,
- 2:40Speaker 1: and first play I saw of the game was Bryce
- 2:43Speaker 1: hitting McMillan on just a beautiful go route down the sideline.
- 2:47Speaker 1: And I was like, jeez, that looked like Joe Montana.
- 2:52Speaker 1: And I think the cohesion between a quarterback... And the
- 2:56Speaker 1: rapport with the wide receiver really matters, right? If you
- 3:01Speaker 1: look at Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, those guys could
- 3:05Speaker 1: excel with a lot of different players. And both guys,
- 3:09Speaker 1: you know, had Wes Welker, excelled with a slot wide receiver. Why?
- 3:14Speaker 1: Tall 6'5, 6'6, quarterback, can see over the middle of
- 3:17Speaker 1: the field, can see over the line of scrimmage, and
- 3:20Speaker 1: hit those guys on a lot of shorter breaking routes
- 3:23Speaker 1: and take advantage. Well, if you take a smaller quarterback,
- 3:28Speaker 1: if you just look around the league over the last
- 3:30Speaker 1: 10 years, Russell, Baker, Kyler Murray, obviously Bryce, a smaller
- 3:35Speaker 1: wide receiver is going to be difficult for that player.
- 3:40Speaker 1: So getting a guy that is massive. I mean, McMillan
- 3:44Speaker 1: feels like a basketball player on the football field. Yet
- 3:49Speaker 1: his skill set, I mean, listen, I'm not trying to
- 3:52Speaker 1: take anything away from him in college. He definitely feels
- 3:56Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life. The coaching from
- 3:59Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers in terms of route running, explosion in
- 4:03Speaker 1: and out of breaks. Obviously, the ball skills are fantastic,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and you saw it on the one sideline catch. But
- 4:08Speaker 1: the rapport those two guys have jumps off the television screen.
- 4:13Speaker 1: And I think the easiest way to take care of
- 4:15Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback is to get bigger wide receivers. It's
- 4:20Speaker 1: kind of basic math. Look at the drop-off. I know
- 4:23Speaker 1: he's injured now, but you could feel it through the
- 4:24Speaker 1: first couple games when Baker Mayfield's missing Mike Evans. Because
- 4:29Speaker 1: that player, look at Mike Evans immediately even with broken
- 4:32Speaker 1: ribs with Purdy. It's like, hey, throw it to the
- 4:35Speaker 1: 6'5 guy who's got incredible elite ball skills like he's
- 4:38Speaker 1: a smaller wide receiver. It makes it a lot easier
- 4:41Speaker 1: for the quarterback. And I got a text today from
- 4:44Speaker 1: a buddy that said, like, why? Canales not calling plays?
- 4:48Speaker 1: Why is that? I'm like, I don't know the exact reason.
- 4:51Speaker 1: But clearly they feel the offense and what is working
- 4:57Speaker 1: is a strength of theirs. And I give them credit.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Because the Denver Broncos, who we'll get into later, it's like, Sean,
- 5:05Speaker 1: we can't keep having this young guy call plays if
- 5:07Speaker 1: this is what it's going to look like. We're paying
- 5:08Speaker 1: you way too much money. With Carolina, like, hey. Whatever's working,
- 5:13Speaker 1: don't try to break it down and fix it because
- 5:16Speaker 1: just keep it rolling. And you watch them play and
- 5:19Speaker 1: you watch Bryce play. And Collinsworth said this as well.
- 5:23Speaker 1: He's like, this is a pretty big moment for Bryce Young.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Playing on Sunday Night Football, this is probably beside the
- 5:31Speaker 1: playoff game. And who knows, we have to look at
- 5:33Speaker 1: the numbers because the playoff game was Saturday afternoon. the
- 5:37Speaker 1: least watched playoff game of the entire slate of the
- 5:40Speaker 1: month of January, there might have been more people watching tonight.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football is the number one television show in America.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And he's like, this is pretty impressive. And my, I guess,
- 5:52Speaker 1: pushback on that would be the question with Bryce Young
- 5:56Speaker 1: was never could he handle the bright lights. The guy
- 5:59Speaker 1: was a blue chip five-star quarterback that went to Nick
- 6:02Speaker 1: Saban and then helped lead them to a national championship.
- 6:06Speaker 1: He's played in college in the SEC championship game, in
- 6:11Speaker 1: the national championship game, I'd argue in games with more
- 6:15Speaker 1: pressure than what he played in tonight. Now, I'm definitely
- 6:20Speaker 1: guilty of this. The question mark with him was, is
- 6:24Speaker 1: he good enough in the pros because of his size,
- 6:28Speaker 1: because of his skill set? Well, one thing just from
- 6:31Speaker 1: an evaluation standpoint, I would say, is his arm to
- 6:35Speaker 1: me look stronger he feels like his ball like the
- 6:42Speaker 1: the velocity when the ball leaves his hand on just
- 6:46Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like on a go route I'm
- 6:48Speaker 1: just talking about on a drive throw the throw to
- 6:51Speaker 1: McMillan is a good example on the move feels stronger
- 6:55Speaker 1: in 2026 than it ever has been in the past
- 6:58Speaker 1: I'd be interested to hear if he feels that's true,
- 7:01Speaker 1: if there's something specifically he's done to work on that.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Because tonight and in all season when you've watched them play,
- 7:08Speaker 1: even that game one against the Bears when the Bears
- 7:11Speaker 1: scored 80 points, they still scored, what, 37 points? They
- 7:15Speaker 1: did not lose because of the offense. Tonight he was 29-41,
- 7:20Speaker 1: but it's the explosive place that I didn't know if
- 7:26Speaker 1: he would have had in the bag a couple years ago.
- 7:28Speaker 1: And now I watch him and I go, well, there
- 7:31Speaker 1: was a lot of debate about a couple years ago. God,
- 7:35Speaker 1: they screwed that up. They did not even take the
- 7:38Speaker 1: best quarterback in the draft. And listen, CJ actually has
- 7:42Speaker 1: played better this year than he did last year. But
- 7:45Speaker 1: I don't even think it's debatable that Bryce Young is
- 7:47Speaker 1: currently a better player than CJ Stratton. Bryce Young is
- 7:50Speaker 1: currently a really good NFL quarterback. I'd have to really
- 7:54Speaker 1: take a step back and write down the names. But
- 7:58Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who statistically had a good game, threw him
- 8:01Speaker 1: for 400 yards, but has some limitations because he can't
- 8:03Speaker 1: really move. And by no means is the loss on him.
- 8:07Speaker 1: But was there any difference watching those two guys play?
- 8:11Speaker 1: And I think we'd all acknowledge Jared Goff is a
- 8:14Speaker 1: really good player. Jared Goff is a guy, if your
- 8:17Speaker 1: defense wasn't just... We'll get into their defense in a second,
- 8:22Speaker 1: but if you just had a middle-of-the-road defense, you're going
- 8:26Speaker 1: to win double-digit games because you've got Jared Goff running
- 8:29Speaker 1: your offense. And that's when I watch Bryce Young, I go,
- 8:32Speaker 1: if your defense could just be solid, your offense is
- 8:35Speaker 1: going to look like this. You can win 9-10 games.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I mean, last year they won 8, and I would
- 8:41Speaker 1: say that they were figuring it out with Bryce and
- 8:44Speaker 1: with the rookie McMillan. Well, now... You know, you got Mechie,
- 8:47Speaker 1: who he played with in college, so they have a
- 8:50Speaker 1: long-standing history. You have, I mean, Chuba Hubbard looked really good.
- 8:55Speaker 1: And you have a semblance of a run game. So offensively, like,
- 9:01Speaker 1: Darren Wallen, massive. What's the best way to help out
- 9:04Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback? Build a basketball team around him. And
- 9:08Speaker 1: that's what they have done. So Dan Morgan, the general manager... Canales,
- 9:13Speaker 1: since he's been there and working with Bryce and realizing
- 9:17Speaker 1: what works, they deserve a lot of credit because we
- 9:20Speaker 1: talk a lot on this show about building teams and
- 9:23Speaker 1: front office people. This is, let's face it, a franchise
- 9:27Speaker 1: that flies a little under the radar. They don't lead shows.
- 9:31Speaker 1: They don't lead podcasts. They don't play on Sunday night football.
- 9:35Speaker 1: I mean, they don't get talked about like the Eagles
- 9:37Speaker 1: and the Cowboys and the Niners and the Packers. It's
- 9:40Speaker 1: just a fact. And that's probably not going to be
- 9:43Speaker 1: something that changes. But when you play on Sunday night
- 9:45Speaker 1: football and you score 32 points, your quarterback who you
- 9:48Speaker 1: drafted one, which let's face it, many of us, including myself,
- 9:53Speaker 1: and I was one of the leaders in the clubhouse,
- 9:56Speaker 1: considered the guy a bust. And I'm a Bryce Young fan.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Like I, was a sneaky bandwagoner to the Saban Alabama
- 10:03Speaker 1: era because I just love Saban team. I love this guy.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I loved him in college. I was like, I would
- 10:09Speaker 1: have taken him number one as well. But then I'll
- 10:12Speaker 1: just never forget maybe his first game or second game,
- 10:15Speaker 1: watching him on television, seeing him in pads, I'm like,
- 10:17Speaker 1: this isn't going to work. And part of the way
- 10:21Speaker 1: and the reason why good teams sustain winning is because
- 10:26Speaker 1: they draft the right type people. Because at the end
- 10:29Speaker 1: of the day, it's people on the field first. Most
- 10:33Speaker 1: guys in these NFL games are good players, are talented players.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And Bryce Young's intangibles going back to high school through
- 10:43Speaker 1: Saban and now are an A +. And his skill
- 10:48Speaker 1: set has improved. And then they've built around him to,
- 10:54Speaker 1: I would say, be able to make his positive attributes
- 11:00Speaker 1: come to life. And they deserve a lot of credit.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And it's been fun to watch. You know, I'm a fan.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And the way they've played it out, I'm not saying
- 11:10Speaker 1: to give him $ 200 million tomorrow. But if I'm Carolina,
- 11:14Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident about the direction of my franchise
- 11:18Speaker 1: led by this young quarterback who was awesome. Who was
- 11:23Speaker 1: awesome tonight. And the thing, if you're a Lions fan,
- 11:29Speaker 1: you just can't be a good team if your defense
- 11:30Speaker 1: is that bad. And they were talking about it on
- 11:33Speaker 1: the broadcast, and it's been a consistent theme. And I
- 11:35Speaker 1: saw Richard Sherman talking about this a couple weeks ago.
- 11:39Speaker 1: They want to play man-to-man defense. They want to play
- 11:42Speaker 1: man-to-man defense, but they don't have the personnel. Well, isn't
- 11:46Speaker 1: coaching doing whatever it takes to win the game? If
- 11:51Speaker 1: you can't pass, but you have a good running game,
- 11:53Speaker 1: what should you do? Run the ball. Like, if you
- 11:58Speaker 1: don't have guys who can cover in man-to-man situations, shouldn't
- 12:03Speaker 1: you as a defensive coordinator... as a coaching staff, as
- 12:06Speaker 1: an organization go, what are the best defenses we can
- 12:10Speaker 1: play to maximize our success levels as a group, as
- 12:15Speaker 1: a unit? Because it clearly isn't the plays you were calling,
- 12:20Speaker 1: putting your guys in situations where they don't have any
- 12:23Speaker 1: chance to even have a small, small part to be successful.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Like it doesn't exist. And I don't understand, like I
- 12:36Speaker 1: respect Dan Campbell a lot. He clearly has proven to
- 12:39Speaker 1: be a great leader, solid head coach. Like the Lions
- 12:42Speaker 1: are 2-2 currently, and it feels like they're 0-4. So
- 12:45Speaker 1: the standards he's raised in a city that was known
- 12:50Speaker 1: for losing, that was honestly the Lions were known for
- 12:53Speaker 1: Barry Sanders and playing on Thanksgiving. That's in losing. That's
- 12:59Speaker 1: what they were known for. And they're not anymore. Like
- 13:01Speaker 1: they're a real NFL franchise. But they are not a
- 13:03Speaker 1: real NFL defense. And until they don't adapt and change
- 13:08Speaker 1: some of the things they do, they're not doing a
- 13:10Speaker 1: good job as a coaching staff. And that's where the
- 13:13Speaker 1: responsibility does start on Dan Campbell. He has a young,
- 13:16Speaker 1: former player calling his defense. And if he's not comfortable
- 13:22Speaker 1: doing it, they need to get someone in there who
- 13:25Speaker 1: is to change. Because what they're doing right now, they
- 13:29Speaker 1: cannot make the playoffs playing defense like this. It's just
- 13:32Speaker 1: not possible. Because too many people in the NFL are
- 13:36Speaker 1: capable of scoring points. Like next week, they go to Arizona.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Arizona has good offensive players. The Packers, they're in shambles.
- 13:45Speaker 1: They have good offensive players. The Vikings, they can't score.
- 13:50Speaker 1: The Dolphins, okay. The Patriots, they can score. The Bears,
- 13:55Speaker 1: they can score. Atlanta, they can score. The Giants, they
- 13:59Speaker 1: can score. So if your defense is going to be...
- 14:02Speaker 1: just I would say bottom of the league, the overwhelming
- 14:07Speaker 1: majority of teams you play, even if they're not a
- 14:10Speaker 1: 13-14 win team, are going to be capable of scoring
- 14:12Speaker 1: 28 to 35 points. And if your offense is a
- 14:16Speaker 1: little off, you have a couple bad series, you turn
- 14:19Speaker 1: the ball over, you have a bad quarter, you can lose.
- 14:23Speaker 1: It's not like they were awful tonight on offense, but
- 14:26Speaker 1: they were not good enough. They simply were not good enough.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And they put the pressure on at the end because
- 14:33Speaker 1: he went forward on fourth and 20 instead of kicking
- 14:35Speaker 1: the field goal. I think that's clearly something he would
- 14:39Speaker 1: like back. But if you kick the field goal, the
- 14:43Speaker 1: pressure of a field goal sending it to overtime instead
- 14:45Speaker 1: of having to score a touchdown to win the game
- 14:49Speaker 1: was really your only option. Definitely changes the way you
- 14:52Speaker 1: approach the final drive. But let's be real. I think
- 14:57Speaker 1: Lions fans, anyone watching the game, were stunned that they
- 15:03Speaker 1: got a stop to get the ball back? Because I was.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Because I never thought for a second that they were
- 15:09Speaker 1: going to be able to put together multiple stops and
- 15:12Speaker 1: Carolina wasn't going to be able to run up the clock.
- 15:15Speaker 1: So when they did, I was like, did not see
- 15:17Speaker 1: that coming. Because how can you expect that? When you
- 15:20Speaker 1: watch the Lions week after week, they do not stop anybody.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck, Bryce Young, Obviously, Josh Allen, they got no
- 15:31Speaker 1: shot to stop anybody. And it's like, well, Aiden Hutchinson
- 15:35Speaker 1: is clearly one of the best defensive linemen in the league.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Like that is abundantly, it jumps off the television screen
- 15:43Speaker 1: when you're sitting on your couch. Yet the guys behind
- 15:46Speaker 1: them have no chance, none. But they, listen, they're NFL players.
- 15:52Speaker 1: if you've got to just run zone defense, even give
- 15:55Speaker 1: up shorter routes, you are getting beat deep consistently and
- 15:59Speaker 1: giving up explosive plays because you're putting these guys in
- 16:02Speaker 1: these one-on-one island situations that they're like the opposite of
- 16:06Speaker 1: Deion Sanders. They look like me or you out there.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Because a lot of guys, like this goes for any
- 16:12Speaker 1: player in any organization, there have been a lot of
- 16:16Speaker 1: great players who have started their careers in organizations and
- 16:20Speaker 1: been in the wrong scheme, been asked to do the
- 16:22Speaker 1: wrong things, and we go, oh, this guy can't play.
- 16:25Speaker 1: And vice versa. There have been guys with less talent
- 16:28Speaker 1: go to the right places and thrive. And that's what
- 16:34Speaker 1: coaching is. That's what high-level NFL teams and organizations do.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Same with college, right? Most teams can take the elite
- 16:42Speaker 1: talents away. Jeremiah Smith or Clowney or Miles Garrett, whoever.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Guy's going to be the number one overall pick in
- 16:49Speaker 1: the draft. For most teams, the guy's going to stand out.
- 16:54Speaker 1: But there are guys all over football on Saturdays and
- 16:56Speaker 1: Sundays who are in the right scheme, coached by the
- 17:00Speaker 1: right coordinator, and excel. They're obviously the outliers of the
- 17:06Speaker 1: all-time great talents, but the majority of the guys are
- 17:09Speaker 1: closer to the mean. And they either have success or failure.
- 17:14Speaker 1: They either take off or descend, right, because of who
- 17:19Speaker 1: they're around and what they're being asked to do. And
- 17:22Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be, you know, Dick LeBeau here.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I'm not acting like I know everything about schematics on defense.
- 17:29Speaker 1: But I do know when it looks like shit. And
- 17:31Speaker 1: when you do the same thing over and over and
- 17:34Speaker 1: expect a different result, what do they say? Isn't that insanity?
- 17:38Speaker 1: That's what the Lions kind of feel like right now.
- 17:41Speaker 1: And I just I don't get it. So this is
- 17:44Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's got to make some hard decisions over there,
- 17:48Speaker 1: make some dramatic tweaks, because it feels like we see
- 17:51Speaker 1: the same thing every week. Like, should we be shocked
- 17:54Speaker 1: that Bryce Young lit him up like Christmas tree? Like
- 17:56Speaker 1: I said, he's played in he's played against way more
- 17:59Speaker 1: resistance in college games against Kirby Smart in Georgia. Not
- 18:02Speaker 1: even close. I mean, I bet if you asked him,
- 18:05Speaker 1: I mean, he would never say this publicly, like over
- 18:07Speaker 1: a cocktail, he'd be like, yeah, it was way harder
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- 20:12Speaker 1: this sums up what we witnessed today. The Eagles had
- 20:16Speaker 1: 172 yards of total offense. Their lowest total in a
- 20:20Speaker 1: game in 12 years. Their 68 net passing yards is
- 20:28Speaker 1: their lowest total in a regular season game in the
- 20:33Speaker 1: last 23 years. I felt that sometimes, like I was
- 20:39Speaker 1: defending Kevin Patola, if I owned an NFL team, if
- 20:44Speaker 1: I was a general manager in an NFL team, I
- 20:46Speaker 1: would not have hired the guy to be my offensive coordinator.
- 20:48Speaker 1: So I'm not acting like, hey guys, this was the
- 20:51Speaker 1: next Kyle Shanahan. This was Sean McVay 2.0. But everyone
- 20:56Speaker 1: egging his house and acting like he was the village idiot,
- 21:00Speaker 1: I think we can acknowledge the operation, the mentality of
- 21:05Speaker 1: the operation, And the quarterback is unlike anything we've ever seen.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Because it's pretty rare. Like, Lamar's a good example, right?
- 21:17Speaker 1: He shipped the bet in some playoff games. Trust me,
- 21:19Speaker 1: I had 5K on him against the Chiefs a couple
- 21:23Speaker 1: years ago at home. It's one of the bigger, just
- 21:26Speaker 1: straight-up bets I've ever made, and I felt pretty good
- 21:29Speaker 1: about it. And obviously it didn't go well. And he
- 21:33Speaker 1: and Todd Munkin, who Props to Todd. He's kind of thriving.
- 21:36Speaker 1: And obviously Lamar, up until he hurt his ankle today,
- 21:39Speaker 1: looked fantastic. I've watched Lamar's entire career. He is an
- 21:44Speaker 1: exceptional player. But Lamar, when it's not going that well,
- 21:49Speaker 1: and the other thing is, Zay Flowers, who I shit
- 21:52Speaker 1: on that contract, Zay's been awesome. I would say so
- 21:57Speaker 1: far through these four weeks, you'd be like, Zay's been
- 22:00Speaker 1: worth every penny. But when shit hits the fan with
- 22:02Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, He goes, you know what? I'll make something.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Josh Allen, same thing. I'll make something happen with my legs.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So when series after series after series, you're going three
- 22:15Speaker 1: and out. You would think there'd be a moment when
- 22:18Speaker 1: Jalen's like, you know what? Let's call quarterback power. Let's
- 22:22Speaker 1: have a play where it's like, you know, I'll look
- 22:25Speaker 1: to one side of the field, one, two, and then
- 22:27Speaker 1: I'm taking off. I'm going to carry us like I
- 22:30Speaker 1: would have five years ago, like I would have at
- 22:32Speaker 1: Oklahoma or Alabama. But he will not do that. You'd
- 22:36Speaker 1: be like, John, they were missing Lane Johnson. John, they
- 22:39Speaker 1: were missing Devontae Smith. John, half their team, Saquon got
- 22:43Speaker 1: escorted out by Big Dom in the second or first
- 22:47Speaker 1: series of the game. All true. This is the NFL.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Guys get hurt constantly. Call Kyle Shanahan and ask what
- 22:55Speaker 1: his injury report has looked like for the last eight years.
- 22:59Speaker 1: It's football. It happens. But there comes a point when
- 23:03Speaker 1: you as a star player, as a highly compensated player,
- 23:07Speaker 1: you just say, fuck it. Like Nikola Jokic. Do you
- 23:12Speaker 1: think in a perfect world he wants to score 40,
- 23:14Speaker 1: 50 points a game? Of course not. But there are
- 23:16Speaker 1: some games... Or he's like, I got to go for 50, 20,
- 23:19Speaker 1: and 18. And you know what? He does. That's what
- 23:23Speaker 1: he's paid to do. And sometimes, given the opponent, that's
- 23:26Speaker 1: what's needed. So the Eagles are in shambles. And Sean Mannion,
- 23:32Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. When you hire an inexperienced coordinator,
- 23:35Speaker 1: think about any time during your professional career. if you
- 23:42Speaker 1: felt over your head a little bit or like got
- 23:45Speaker 1: a promotion, you're like, this is a pretty, a lot
- 23:47Speaker 1: of responsibility on my plate. It is way easier when
- 23:53Speaker 1: you're given those promotions or given those opportunities when things
- 23:56Speaker 1: are going kind of well, it's like, Hey, here's a,
- 23:59Speaker 1: here's Billy's book of business. Or it's like, Hey, we
- 24:02Speaker 1: already got these seven construction projects going. You just need
- 24:05Speaker 1: to manage them. It's another thing when you get that
- 24:08Speaker 1: promotion and like, a recession hits. You're like, what do
- 24:11Speaker 1: I do now? Right? The company tanks. Some huge scandal
- 24:16Speaker 1: breaks out. And you feel completely underwater and over your head. Well,
- 24:22Speaker 1: that's what it kind of feels like. Where are his answers?
- 24:25Speaker 1: What answers would he have? He has no experience doing this. None.
- 24:31Speaker 1: So it's like, yes, Sirianni's at a front row seat
- 24:33Speaker 1: to all these other coordinators, but we already know he
- 24:36Speaker 1: doesn't have like the offensive capacity, capabilities, I don't even
- 24:43Speaker 1: know how to describe it, ability to really do that much.
- 24:47Speaker 1: If anything, he's like yelling at the refs, hanging out
- 24:48Speaker 1: with Dom and kind of giving some team meetings. So
- 24:52Speaker 1: the offensive construction, adjustments, everything falls on this guy who's
- 25:00Speaker 1: never sat in this seat, let alone been in a
- 25:03Speaker 1: place that is as intense and the expectations are as
- 25:07Speaker 1: high as And they got some flawed situations, right? They
- 25:11Speaker 1: already have some injuries. Saquon, boom, he disappears. And your
- 25:16Speaker 1: quarterback is just kind of weird. And I don't mean personally,
- 25:21Speaker 1: I just mean as a player. It's like, well, he
- 25:24Speaker 1: does throw a beautiful deep ball, but you can't really
- 25:28Speaker 1: throw that many deep balls with this person. Like, what
- 25:30Speaker 1: can you do? Well, I tell you what to do. Like,
- 25:32Speaker 1: why today not be like, Jalen, paying you $ 50 million,
- 25:36Speaker 1: we're going to need you to run 15 times a game.
- 25:39Speaker 1: And under no circumstance, and listen, Sirianni, I know they
- 25:43Speaker 1: lost 24-20, and even if he kicks the field goal,
- 25:47Speaker 1: it's 24-23. You cannot convince me, with how shitty your
- 25:50Speaker 1: offense has been, that kicking that field goal doesn't change
- 25:54Speaker 1: the trajectory of the game. The Rams were dead. I
- 25:59Speaker 1: swear to God, when Sean McVay had his entire offense
- 26:04Speaker 1: surrounding him on the sideline, He's on a knee giving
- 26:07Speaker 1: this impassioned speech like you'd see in a movie. The
- 26:11Speaker 1: first thing I thought of was like, there's like over
- 26:14Speaker 1: a 50% chance he's calling games at Amazon last week
- 26:17Speaker 1: or next year. Like in 2027, he's the Amazon color
- 26:22Speaker 1: commentator because they just re-signed Kirk Herbstreet. But I read
- 26:26Speaker 1: the article. It's like, it does give them the ability
- 26:29Speaker 1: if they can land a quote unquote big fish like
- 26:31Speaker 1: Sean McVay, they don't have to honor the contract or
- 26:34Speaker 1: Kirk Herbstreet would just be out. I was like, I
- 26:37Speaker 1: see Sean McVay seeing his entire season crumble. Matt Stafford
- 26:42Speaker 1: looked like he was 55 years old. They looked terrible.
- 26:47Speaker 1: They couldn't have looked any worse. The Eagles had the
- 26:50Speaker 1: ball at the two-yard line on a fourth down, up 10,
- 26:53Speaker 1: with like eight minutes to go. In complete control of
- 26:55Speaker 1: the game. But when you cannot gain a first down consistently...
- 27:02Speaker 1: And you go three and out, three and out, three
- 27:04Speaker 1: and out, three and out, four and out, three and out,
- 27:06Speaker 1: four and out. I don't care who you're playing. You're
- 27:10Speaker 1: going to find yourself in some weird spots. And that's
- 27:13Speaker 1: exactly what happened. But you can't convince me. I'm watching
- 27:18Speaker 1: Brock Purdy. Do you know what Brock Purdy says every
- 27:19Speaker 1: once in a while? I got to run the ball.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Nothing's there. I'm going to take off. And you would
- 27:27Speaker 1: not consider him to be the runner that hurts this.
- 27:32Speaker 1: I'm not expecting Hurts to light them up with some
- 27:34Speaker 1: of these random guys. Obviously, the stats are historically low.
- 27:40Speaker 1: It doesn't get much worse than this. And at the
- 27:44Speaker 1: end of the day, Sirianni's the boss. Are you just
- 27:47Speaker 1: going to fire the coordinators again? This thing does feel
- 27:50Speaker 1: like it could have... And listen, they lost both corners. Mitchell, Dejean,
- 27:56Speaker 1: Grenard left the game. Saquon's hammy, he was able to
- 28:01Speaker 1: walk off, feels exactly like Caleb Williams' hammy. I would
- 28:05Speaker 1: expect Saquon to be gone for games, whether that's three,
- 28:10Speaker 1: whether that's five. I don't expect to see him anytime soon.
- 28:14Speaker 1: It's one of those he's gone, ruled him probable or
- 28:17Speaker 1: questionable or whatever it is, then he's out. He's out
- 28:19Speaker 1: for the game. He definitely ain't playing this week against Jacksonville,
- 28:22Speaker 1: who I don't know is one of the best teams
- 28:24Speaker 1: in the league. So, everyone, like, Sean Mannion, like, to me,
- 28:30Speaker 1: Sirianni and Jalen Hurst. And the one thing I'll say
- 28:33Speaker 1: about Philly, plays at a short leash before, man. They
- 28:38Speaker 1: pivoted on Carson Wentz in the blink of an eye.
- 28:41Speaker 1: It's like, well, what about three years ago? It's 2026.
- 28:43Speaker 1: We're three months away from 2027. If you want to
- 28:48Speaker 1: hold on to two years ago, great. I promise you this.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie will not. So I think
- 28:55Speaker 1: now we have a three-month audition for the quarterback and
- 28:58Speaker 1: the coach. Definitely the coach, who I think we have
- 29:01Speaker 1: to start questioning. Like, what's he really bringing to the table?
- 29:03Speaker 1: Because it's not like this year is out of nowhere.
- 29:05Speaker 1: It looks exactly like last year. And if their defense
- 29:10Speaker 1: is just going to have some flaws now, they definitely
- 29:13Speaker 1: don't rush the passer as well. And by the end
- 29:16Speaker 1: of the game, they're just exhausted because they're on the
- 29:17Speaker 1: field constantly. Like, what can you possibly do when you're
- 29:20Speaker 1: on the field that much? And the answer is, you're
- 29:24Speaker 1: going to run out of gas. And that's what's going on.
- 29:27Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia and Dallas winning that game, as Philly
- 29:32Speaker 1: is imploding, and CeeDee Lamb looked like he had 75 catches.
- 29:38Speaker 1: As someone that drafted the Houston Texans defensively, in fantasy
- 29:40Speaker 1: because I thought they're going to be the best defense
- 29:42Speaker 1: in the league I saw them last year bringing everyone
- 29:45Speaker 1: back they're going to dominate they aren't even close to
- 29:48Speaker 1: what they were last year they're secondary now I've seen
- 29:51Speaker 1: Josh Allen light them up like Christmas tree I saw
- 29:54Speaker 1: Dak today go to CeeDee Lamb over and over and
- 29:58Speaker 1: over again I mentioned this to Coward when we recorded
- 30:02Speaker 1: the podcast. In basketball, for example, when you're playing a
- 30:05Speaker 1: guy in the NBA, and it's like, this guy's going
- 30:08Speaker 1: to go for 60. When that guy gets around 45,
- 30:11Speaker 1: maybe early 40s, high 40s, any respectable team goes, yeah,
- 30:17Speaker 1: we're just going to start doubling you. We'll leave other
- 30:19Speaker 1: guys wide open, but we are just not going to
- 30:21Speaker 1: let you score on us over and over and over again.
- 30:25Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like with CeeDee. It wasn't
- 30:27Speaker 1: like every play he's making one-handed grabs over three guys.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Half the play is wide open. I mean, his game-winning
- 30:33Speaker 1: touchdown in the middle of the end zone is just like,
- 30:36Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And I get it. Like,
- 30:38Speaker 1: George Pickens, a real threat. Ferguson's a real threat. Like,
- 30:41Speaker 1: their personnel is fantastic. But Dallas' offense– and here's the thing. Like,
- 30:47Speaker 1: I don't really know what the Eagles do well. The Cowboys'
- 30:51Speaker 1: defense is not great. I wouldn't get it– confused with
- 30:57Speaker 1: some top unit I mean it's it's going to be
- 31:00Speaker 1: an uphill climb to crack the top half of the
- 31:03Speaker 1: league when it's all said and done right but offensively
- 31:07Speaker 1: they are potent I mean they are potent it's what
- 31:10Speaker 1: drove me nuts last week against Baltimore when it's like
- 31:13Speaker 1: you have a really good offensive coordinator at least I
- 31:15Speaker 1: thought a dominant offense who was humming how can you
- 31:19Speaker 1: call those three plays how's that possible Right? Like, look
- 31:23Speaker 1: at the Chiefs. Couple huge situations in the red zone.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Easy touchdowns. Early in the game, Thornton, play that they've
- 31:33Speaker 1: ran in the Super Bowl before, walk in in the
- 31:35Speaker 1: corner of the front pylon. Late in the game, boom,
- 31:38Speaker 1: hit Thornton in the back. Who we're all thinking. It's like,
- 31:40Speaker 1: are they going to throw to Kelsey? Are they going
- 31:41Speaker 1: to run something to Walker? Nope. Thornton, Thornton, touchdown, touchdown. Why?
- 31:46Speaker 1: Because they're an innovative offensive group. And once you get closer,
- 31:50Speaker 1: I got some plays in my back pocket that that
- 31:52Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident aren't like a 50-50 coin flip.
- 31:55Speaker 1: In my mind, as a play caller, because of what
- 31:58Speaker 1: we've run, because of the look I know I'm going
- 32:00Speaker 1: to get after scouting you, it feels like 80-90%. Doesn't
- 32:04Speaker 1: mean we're going to score, but I feel pretty confident
- 32:08Speaker 1: if we can just block a little bit and my
- 32:09Speaker 1: quarterback goes the right guy, this is a pretty good
- 32:12Speaker 1: chance to be open. And that's what the Cowboys like.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Sometimes you just ride the hot hand. And they just
- 32:18Speaker 1: fed him and fed him and fed him. And, you know,
- 32:22Speaker 1: the Eagles were the complete opposite. And I got to
- 32:23Speaker 1: give the Rams credit. I watched McVay's postgame speech. He
- 32:27Speaker 1: was going nuts. That's the most excited I've seen McVay. McVay,
- 32:33Speaker 1: when they, the last play of the game, when they
- 32:36Speaker 1: broke up the pass to Hurts, he must have run
- 32:39Speaker 1: like 40 yards on the sideline, like jump ninja kicks
- 32:43Speaker 1: one of his dudes and is just going berserk. And
- 32:46Speaker 1: after the game, like he's hooting and hollering. And one
- 32:48Speaker 1: thing he said, like, and I was like, I think
- 32:50Speaker 1: he's right. So a lot of teams would have folded.
- 32:53Speaker 1: And I do agree. Because it's one thing to be
- 32:56Speaker 1: down 10. It felt like they were down 40. How
- 33:00Speaker 1: bad Stafford was playing. It was wet. Their guys weren't
- 33:03Speaker 1: catching the ball. And then everything flipped. And then in
- 33:06Speaker 1: two drives that won them the game or helped them.
- 33:10Speaker 1: One came storming back and the other one won the game.
- 33:12Speaker 1: I think it was 19 plays for almost 180 yards. Boom, boom.
- 33:17Speaker 1: And like both drives combined were under five minutes. So
- 33:21Speaker 1: they flipped a switch. They never tapped out. And then
- 33:24Speaker 1: it felt like they broke the Eagles and they killed them.
- 33:28Speaker 1: They feel dead. I would be stunned. I mean stunned
- 33:37Speaker 1: if the Philadelphia Eagles can get on a plane and
- 33:39Speaker 1: go to London and beat the Jags. I feel it's
- 33:42Speaker 1: more likely that game ends up like 38-10 than it
- 33:44Speaker 1: does Philly wins 19-15 or something. So, and the Rams
- 33:52Speaker 1: saved their season because at one and three, with how
- 33:56Speaker 1: bad they had looked, you know, Puka coming back is
- 33:59Speaker 1: a game changer. He was fantastic today. You felt his presence.
- 34:04Speaker 1: He had the touchdown on the end around. He just
- 34:07Speaker 1: had so many big catches over the middle of the field.
- 34:10Speaker 1: He had tough grabs in traffic. Might have some issues.
- 34:14Speaker 1: Might hang out with some questionable streamers, but I'll tell
- 34:16Speaker 1: you this, that fucker's a war daddy. That guy's a baller.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Speaking of war daddies, I wasn't that confident on the 49ers.
- 34:25Speaker 1: They had a bunch of injuries. Eventually, Seattle's coming up next. Denver,
- 34:33Speaker 1: going to be a tough matchup because they have a
- 34:34Speaker 1: good defense. Mike Evans is dealing with these broken ribs.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I don't even know why they played Mike Evans before
- 34:41Speaker 1: the game. I was like, you know what? If he's 50%,
- 34:45Speaker 1: you get him the next week. And I spoke about
- 34:50Speaker 1: McMillan and building your team the right way. You're not
- 34:52Speaker 1: just picking players. You're not just signing and drafting players.
- 34:56Speaker 1: You're building a team. And the type guys you have
- 34:59Speaker 1: in the building create the culture. You know, we hear
- 35:02Speaker 1: this all the time, and it's so cliche and kind
- 35:04Speaker 1: of cheesy, like, head coach setting the culture, head coach
- 35:07Speaker 1: setting the culture. The head coach, there have been a
- 35:09Speaker 1: lot of head coaches who have failed with incredible messages.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Because if you don't have the right type people that
- 35:16Speaker 1: are taking in that message... and then living out that message,
- 35:20Speaker 1: none of it matters. And at the end of the day,
- 35:23Speaker 1: no coach with a headset has ever gained a yard,
- 35:27Speaker 1: made a tackle, scored a touchdown, prevented a touchdown between
- 35:33Speaker 1: the white lines. The players do that. And having the
- 35:36Speaker 1: right type players, the mentality, is how you win. Forever,
- 35:40Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers, now they're old, but for a
- 35:44Speaker 1: long period of time with Coward and then Tomlin, It's
- 35:47Speaker 1: like just the Ravens. It's why they were mirror images
- 35:49Speaker 1: of each other. Because they had so many of these
- 35:53Speaker 1: crazy dudes that were just football playing Jesses. It's like,
- 35:59Speaker 1: I want that guy on my team. That's what so
- 36:01Speaker 1: many people that were fans of other teams, when we
- 36:03Speaker 1: watched those two teams play in their heyday, were like,
- 36:06Speaker 1: can I get some of those guys? And watching Mike
- 36:09Speaker 1: Evans come from Tampa to the 49ers, and break ribs
- 36:14Speaker 1: and clearly struggle to breathe when he's getting tackled, be
- 36:17Speaker 1: out there. I saw Trent Williams after the game was like,
- 36:21Speaker 1: none of us, not a soul in this locker room
- 36:23Speaker 1: would have blamed him if he didn't play. But you
- 36:26Speaker 1: just watch that guy clearly never cross his mind. He
- 36:29Speaker 1: wasn't going to play. And now looking back, is it
- 36:32Speaker 1: shocking that, I'm sure he had other offers, not like
- 36:35Speaker 1: the 49ers even gave him that much money, that he
- 36:38Speaker 1: chose to play with Fred Warner, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle,
- 36:42Speaker 1: who tore his Achilles in the playoff game. I saw
- 36:48Speaker 1: a clip today that his touchdown at the end of
- 36:51Speaker 1: the game, which he took to the house, I think
- 36:53Speaker 1: from like 60, 70 yards, he was going like 20
- 36:57Speaker 1: miles an hour. And I think the big difference today
- 37:02Speaker 1: in that game was it was a hard-hitting early half.
- 37:06Speaker 1: The Broncos are tough. Turns out the 49ers are just tougher.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Bo Nix has obviously had some really good moments throughout
- 37:13Speaker 1: his NFL career. Brock Purdy's on a completely different level.
- 37:17Speaker 1: And the other thing is, like, if I was the
- 37:18Speaker 1: Walton family, Penner, you know, the brother-in-law, technically the boss, but,
- 37:24Speaker 1: you know, you know where he gets his cash. It's like, Sean,
- 37:28Speaker 1: you and Kyle right now, right? You're the older version
- 37:31Speaker 1: of Kyle, but you guys are both making $ 18, $ 20
- 37:34Speaker 1: million a year. He runs the offense and he runs
- 37:39Speaker 1: the team. I get you really wanted to keep this guy.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Seems like a good guy. I've followed his career as
- 37:46Speaker 1: a player. It has not gone well. Something feels off,
- 37:51Speaker 1: even different from last year when it would feel off,
- 37:53Speaker 1: but they would pull these games out of their you-know-what.
- 37:56Speaker 1: So I would just sit down with Sean and I'd go, listen,
- 38:00Speaker 1: I understand we wanted to keep this guy, but you're
- 38:05Speaker 1: the play caller. That's why you make all this money.
- 38:09Speaker 1: You were the guy that hand-stamped this quarterback. And there
- 38:12Speaker 1: are so many plays, like basic plays. One big difference
- 38:16Speaker 1: today that I noticed watching Purdy and Bo Nix. Because
- 38:21Speaker 1: I think when they drafted Bo Nix, they wanted some
- 38:24Speaker 1: version of like what Purdy had become. To be able
- 38:28Speaker 1: to run the offense kind of Drew Brees style, but
- 38:30Speaker 1: with some mobility. Yet there will be basic like wheel
- 38:33Speaker 1: routes that are wide open. It'll be like second and eight.
- 38:39Speaker 1: And he'll skip the ball at the guy's feet where
- 38:41Speaker 1: if he catches it, maybe he gets the first down.
- 38:45Speaker 1: But instead of being third and eight, it's third and one.
- 38:49Speaker 1: And that's the difference in Brock Purdy. The layup throws,
- 38:52Speaker 1: he hits with his eyes closed. Everyone's going to miss
- 38:55Speaker 1: some deep daggers, some deep balls over the middle of
- 38:58Speaker 1: the field, some deep go routes. It's football. Those are
- 39:02Speaker 1: hard balls to complete. To me, it's what Mahomes never
- 39:07Speaker 1: gets enough credit for. If you run a wheel route
- 39:10Speaker 1: or a screen pass or like some weird play to
- 39:13Speaker 1: Kelsey where he has to touch pass it over an
- 39:16Speaker 1: outstretched defender, I'm talking something not vertical, like horizontal over,
- 39:23Speaker 1: you know, like parallel to him. I feel like he
- 39:27Speaker 1: hits it 95% of the time. And I watch Bo Nix.
- 39:33Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be incomplete when he
- 39:34Speaker 1: throws it. And right now, offensively, I know they had
- 39:38Speaker 1: some major injuries today too. I mean, we'll see Sertan
- 39:42Speaker 1: got carted off. Hopefully he's okay. But Bo Nix is
- 39:47Speaker 1: just kind of a flawed player. And you can only
- 39:51Speaker 1: have these crazy fourth quarter comebacks. You're not going to
- 39:53Speaker 1: have those every year your entire career. And right now
- 39:56Speaker 1: they clearly, like the 49ers, were just a little tougher
- 39:59Speaker 1: than them. But they also have way better quarterback play.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Like their quarterback is just a better player. I don't
- 40:05Speaker 1: watch the Broncos and think, ah, they don't have enough
- 40:07Speaker 1: skill guys. No, I think their quarterback is not playing
- 40:11Speaker 1: very well. And for most of this season, beside a
- 40:14Speaker 1: couple quarters, they have not played well. Like the Jags
- 40:18Speaker 1: are the opposite. They had the one half against the
- 40:23Speaker 1: Broncos that they played like shit and they lost the game.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Other than that, I feel like they have won the overwhelming,
- 40:29Speaker 1: if not all the quarters they played this season. And
- 40:32Speaker 1: for the first time today, you know, the Niners, if anything,
- 40:35Speaker 1: it was a wash, but like they didn't outplay their
- 40:38Speaker 1: opponent in a quarter or a half. Probably a wash.
- 40:43Speaker 1: They got stuffed on a fourth down. But it was
- 40:45Speaker 1: 3-3 at half. And it felt right. It was a
- 40:47Speaker 1: tight game. But in the second half, they separated. Because
- 40:51Speaker 1: their quarterback can consistently lead them on a drive when
- 40:54Speaker 1: it matters the most. When the game is still a
- 40:57Speaker 1: field goal game. And it goes from 10-6 to 17-6.
- 41:00Speaker 1: And let's be honest, when it went 17-6, it felt
- 41:04Speaker 1: over because it didn't feel like they were going to
- 41:05Speaker 1: be able to get there. And they couldn't. Can I
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- 43:32Speaker 1: And then when you onboard, as the tech companies say,
- 43:35Speaker 1: new guys... especially rookies, right? Kenneth Walker came from a
- 43:40Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, so you knew you were getting a
- 43:42Speaker 1: high-level guy that knew what winning looks like. And the
- 43:45Speaker 1: majority of his career in Seattle, they had been good.
- 43:49Speaker 1: But when you get young players from the draft class,
- 43:53Speaker 1: there's no kind of figuring it out. You watch Jeremiah
- 43:55Speaker 1: Love right now. He's talking about how he's tired and stuff.
- 43:59Speaker 1: I don't think Jeremiah Love would be talking like that
- 44:01Speaker 1: if he played for the Ravens, if he played for
- 44:02Speaker 1: the Chiefs, if he played for the 49ers or the Rams.
- 44:06Speaker 1: But you play for the Cardinals, all of a sudden
- 44:08Speaker 1: a couple years later, and I don't think Jeremiah Love's
- 44:10Speaker 1: going to become Marvin Harrison, but you can just get
- 44:13Speaker 1: lost in the toxicity of losing. Most people are humans.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Most people are not able to rise above it. And
- 44:22Speaker 1: the Chiefs this year, there has been an edge to
- 44:25Speaker 1: them that has been really, really impressive. And obviously Kenneth
- 44:28Speaker 1: Walker's been incredible. Thornton today was unreal until his ankle broke.
- 44:34Speaker 1: pointed the opposite direction, which was one of the worst
- 44:37Speaker 1: moments of the day. Because the guy was having... It's
- 44:42Speaker 1: got to be the game of his life. It was
- 44:44Speaker 1: dominating the game. Red zone dominating, the deep bomb dominating.
- 44:48Speaker 1: It was awesome to watch. And to see his season
- 44:53Speaker 1: probably end like that sucks. But I will say this.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Most coaches in pro football will... say there are no
- 45:05Speaker 1: such thing as moral victories. I think there are certain
- 45:08Speaker 1: times that moral victories are real. And I think if
- 45:12Speaker 1: you're a Raiders player, a Raiders coach, and definitely a
- 45:15Speaker 1: Raiders fan, I think most Raiders fans are going to
- 45:17Speaker 1: be pretty excited. Because today kind of validated, like, okay,
- 45:21Speaker 1: this team is real. This team could be a playoff contender. Like,
- 45:26Speaker 1: to make the 7 or 6 seed. Like, we can
- 45:29Speaker 1: win 10 games. We have one of the best players
- 45:31Speaker 1: on defense in Max Crosby. We have clearly one of
- 45:35Speaker 1: the best offensive players in Bowers. Our second tight end
- 45:39Speaker 1: is awesome. Our two running backs are good. Our receiver room,
- 45:42Speaker 1: not great. But defensively, we're solid. We're well coached. And
- 45:46Speaker 1: I also think it shows you that we got a
- 45:50Speaker 1: lot of scam artists in America. We got scams all
- 45:52Speaker 1: over the place, right? The scam Pete Carroll's son and
- 45:57Speaker 1: Chip Kelly ran last year on the Raiders operation would
- 46:02Speaker 1: get some people put in prison. And you watch Kubiak
- 46:06Speaker 1: and his coaching staff and just how well they're buttoned
- 46:11Speaker 1: up in a game that mattered a lot. You know,
- 46:14Speaker 1: you could tell. Like, if you've watched, and I've watched
- 46:16Speaker 1: every snap the Chiefs have played, first two games to
- 46:20Speaker 1: the Kansas City felt like playoff games. They took that
- 46:22Speaker 1: shit really seriously. Last week, Miami, you know, it was
- 46:25Speaker 1: kind of a little cruise control. You know, it was like, oh,
- 46:28Speaker 1: we're just going to go to the South Beach. We'll
- 46:30Speaker 1: get us a win, but, you know, we'll feel it out. Today,
- 46:34Speaker 1: they came in, and so did the Raiders, and they
- 46:37Speaker 1: matched them. And it was really– those two games on simultaneously,
- 46:42Speaker 1: the Denver game, Denver Niners and Raiders Chiefs, the hitting,
- 46:46Speaker 1: the physicality, the intensity of it was just– as someone
- 46:51Speaker 1: that just loves– there's a purity aspect of just football
- 46:55Speaker 1: to me that sometimes I miss. We spend so much
- 46:58Speaker 1: time talking about, like, Jed York gets suspended for a hooker.
- 47:01Speaker 1: I like talking about that stuff a lot too. But
- 47:03Speaker 1: just like three hours of just high-level football, that was
- 47:08Speaker 1: an extremely enjoyable stretch. And while the 49ers separated, honestly,
- 47:13Speaker 1: I kept waiting. I was like, are the Raiders going
- 47:15Speaker 1: to break? They never really did until they fumble on
- 47:17Speaker 1: the kickoff. Then obviously Walker scores on the next play,
- 47:20Speaker 1: and then it kind of separated. But Cousins, the other thing,
- 47:23Speaker 1: I would say has been one of the biggest revelations
- 47:25Speaker 1: in the sport because I don't think there are many people–
- 47:31Speaker 1: I would even imagine even the Raiders that thought he
- 47:33Speaker 1: would be this good. Now, part of it is they're
- 47:35Speaker 1: blocking for him. He's not getting hit. He's got time.
- 47:38Speaker 1: But he is playing. It's one thing to just show
- 47:41Speaker 1: up to help Fernando learn how to be a pro.
- 47:45Speaker 1: He's playing really good football. If you watch that game,
- 47:49Speaker 1: he's going toe-to-toe with Patrick Mahomes. I'd have to look
- 47:55Speaker 1: at the numbers, but through the first month of the season,
- 47:58Speaker 1: he's got to be one of, if not top two
- 48:02Speaker 1: or three players in the AFC at quarterback. True pro bowlers,
- 48:05Speaker 1: where the top three players from each conference go, I
- 48:10Speaker 1: would imagine through four weeks, Kirk Cousins is a pro bowler.
- 48:13Speaker 1: And again, he's not exactly playing with Jerry Rice and
- 48:15Speaker 1: Tim Brown at wide receiver. So congrats to Kubiak, who
- 48:20Speaker 1: I think at halftime, he might have just been kind
- 48:22Speaker 1: of feeling himself. Said, like, we're going to go get
- 48:25Speaker 1: some halftime adjustments. We're going to win this game. You know,
- 48:28Speaker 1: if you've watched Kubiak talk, he is not like that.
- 48:30Speaker 1: I think it was just the emotions. It shows you
- 48:32Speaker 1: the adrenaline. Just the football juices coursing through your body.
- 48:37Speaker 1: I had to really get him going. Chargers stink. I mean,
- 48:39Speaker 1: they are. I know the final score was 30-23. I
- 48:43Speaker 1: did not feel like that. They lost McConkie and Joe
- 48:47Speaker 1: Alt during the game. They're terrible. They're terrible. Minnesota Vikings
- 48:50Speaker 1: are 4-0. I saw this stat. The Chiefs, they're a
- 48:54Speaker 1: 3-4-0 team. Chiefs, Niners, Vikings. The 49ers have scored 16 touchdowns.
- 48:59Speaker 1: The Chiefs have scored 14, and the Vikings have scored 6. Now,
- 49:03Speaker 1: it technically probably should have been 7. Anyone that had
- 49:06Speaker 1: the old Dolphins and the 11.5, they hit the ground.
- 49:10Speaker 1: I had the game on mute. I'm pretty sure it
- 49:12Speaker 1: was T.J. Hawkinson. hit the ground, and they ran out
- 49:14Speaker 1: the clock. So it could be seven, but their offense
- 49:17Speaker 1: is awful. I mean, it's a Brian Flores. lot of operation. Now,
- 49:23Speaker 1: as they play better teams, are they going to be
- 49:25Speaker 1: able to win games just on Flores, blitzing everybody? Probably not.
- 49:30Speaker 1: But it has been pretty impressive. You know, it's not
- 49:34Speaker 1: easy to win in the NFL no matter what, especially
- 49:36Speaker 1: when your offense is not doing much. So their kicker
- 49:40Speaker 1: dominated today. I know I was going against them in
- 49:43Speaker 1: fantasy at like 20 points, but Vikings are 4-0. Now,
- 49:47Speaker 1: if I'm a betting man, I am taking the Bears
- 49:50Speaker 1: to win that division. The power of a play caller,
- 49:56Speaker 1: whether it's your head coach, your offensive coordinator, if they
- 49:59Speaker 1: can win games with a backup quarterback, the play caller
- 50:03Speaker 1: immediately becomes underpaid. To go back-to-back weeks with two different
- 50:07Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks, and dominate both games is just, what a
- 50:14Speaker 1: feather in Ben Johnson's cap. I don't think you can
- 50:19Speaker 1: be hyperbolic with hyping this guy up. He's been as
- 50:24Speaker 1: good as advertised. And this stat, the Bears had 34
- 50:27Speaker 1: first downs. The Jets had 32 plays. It's only the
- 50:32Speaker 1: second game in the Super Bowl era, which started in 1966,
- 50:38Speaker 1: which a team had more first downs than its opponent
- 50:41Speaker 1: had plays. That is an insane stat. And I looked
- 50:46Speaker 1: at this when I was talking to Colin. They had
- 50:47Speaker 1: like 240 yards rushing. Their longest rush was like 24 yards.
- 50:52Speaker 1: It's not like they had a 70-yarder. They just gash you.
- 50:56Speaker 1: And I had said last week I assumed Tyson was
- 50:59Speaker 1: going to play. You could kind of tell in case
- 51:02Speaker 1: in his postgame presser on Monday and then if you
- 51:04Speaker 1: watch some of his interviews on Tuesday. I think that's
- 51:08Speaker 1: part of the reason he was so emotional. He knew
- 51:10Speaker 1: it was going to be his only shot. I bet
- 51:12Speaker 1: Bennett even... Their relationship is pretty close. It's probably more
- 51:16Speaker 1: like coach to coach than player to player. It's like
- 51:19Speaker 1: Tyson also got an extension. And Tyson is... Tyson is
- 51:25Speaker 1: really talented. Not a perfect player. Once they start dominating,
- 51:29Speaker 1: I start paying attention more to the Eagle game and
- 51:32Speaker 1: the Cowboy game. But like mobile, big arm... Hit some
- 51:37Speaker 1: big plays. I know he had a pick, but there's
- 51:40Speaker 1: a lot there to work with as a backup quarterback.
- 51:43Speaker 1: And then you watch his interviews after the game, talking
- 51:46Speaker 1: about how much Case means to him. It's like his
- 51:48Speaker 1: favorite teammate of all time, and Case is the one
- 51:50Speaker 1: that told him. Ben had Case tell him that he
- 51:52Speaker 1: was going to start, I think on Tuesday or Wednesday morning.
- 51:57Speaker 1: When your quarterback room is that buttoned up, it's hard
- 52:01Speaker 1: not to have a good team. I'm really high on
- 52:05Speaker 1: the Bears. Now, is their defense going to play like
- 52:08Speaker 1: it's been playing against the Eagles and the Jets against
- 52:11Speaker 1: the better offensive teams? I'm not sure. Their personnel is
- 52:14Speaker 1: still the same. But I would just say this, and
- 52:17Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, I believe. Like, the way you feel about Sirianni,
- 52:21Speaker 1: it's like, wouldn't trust him, right? It's the opposite of
- 52:25Speaker 1: how you feel with Ben Johnson right now, and he's
- 52:26Speaker 1: proving it with Tyson Badgett. and Case Keenum in a
- 52:31Speaker 1: six-day stretch. They played on Monday, and then they played
- 52:33Speaker 1: again Sunday morning. And they beat the living shit out
- 52:37Speaker 1: of both teams. So it's got to feel good to
- 52:41Speaker 1: be a Bears fan. It really does. Anything else? A
- 52:45Speaker 1: ref screamed F-U at Trey McBride. Probably can't do that.
- 52:52Speaker 1: I would imagine the guy would get fired for screaming
- 52:55Speaker 1: that unless Trey comes out. He said something crazy, which... Personally,
- 53:00Speaker 1: I never have an issue with anyone screaming F-bombs at
- 53:04Speaker 1: each other. I'm personally very pro that in life, in
- 53:08Speaker 1: professional settings. Maybe growing up around farmers, most of my
- 53:14Speaker 1: friends growing up, their families were in the construction world.
- 53:17Speaker 1: I've just been around that culture professionally, and then I
- 53:21Speaker 1: started working in football, so I'm just used to hearing
- 53:22Speaker 1: that word a lot. If you told me Trey screamed
- 53:25Speaker 1: at him, I just don't care. It doesn't bother me
- 53:28Speaker 1: at all. Now, if this guy is just Trey screaming
- 53:31Speaker 1: at him, like, throw the flag, and he screams that back, like, yeah,
- 53:34Speaker 1: I got no problem firing the guy or suspending him
- 53:37Speaker 1: or whatever, but I'm not as, I would say, like,
- 53:43Speaker 1: on some moral high ground when it comes, it always
- 53:46Speaker 1: bothers me when Draymond Green gets his attack for screaming
- 53:49Speaker 1: the F-bomb. It's like, this is pro sports. This isn't
- 53:51Speaker 1: Little League. Not everyone has, you know, the vocabulary of
- 53:56Speaker 1: a Cal English major. I don't care that they're using
- 54:00Speaker 1: this word. And maybe that makes some people uncomfortable. My
- 54:04Speaker 1: mom doesn't love it. But I'm very comfortable around it.
- 54:08Speaker 1: I'm not as bothered by it. Unless it was completely
- 54:10Speaker 1: impromptu and he just screamed at him. I would guess
- 54:13Speaker 1: it wasn't. Trey was screaming at him. There was another
- 54:15Speaker 1: video of a referee hitting the ground and him getting up.
- 54:20Speaker 1: I just... I don't care. I'm unbothered. I actually think
- 54:24Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. People... refs hear shit all the
- 54:28Speaker 1: time they're constantly getting screamed at so now if you
- 54:31Speaker 1: tell me the ref's terrible at his job fire him
- 54:34Speaker 1: i've always been pro that everyone else on a field
- 54:38Speaker 1: players and coaches they're literally their job is on the
- 54:41Speaker 1: line player in the nfl players get cut constantly obviously
- 54:45Speaker 1: coaches get fired coordinators position coaches all the time throughout
- 54:50Speaker 1: the season hell jim moore jr colorado state fired his
- 54:54Speaker 1: coach in the middle of the game Let me say
- 54:57Speaker 1: this about Jim Moore Jr. I don't think there's an
- 55:00Speaker 1: individual in the sport of football who I would least rather,
- 55:05Speaker 1: like he would be on the bottom of the list
- 55:07Speaker 1: if you had to rank every head coach in college
- 55:10Speaker 1: and the pros who you'd want to work for. Jim
- 55:12Speaker 1: Moore Jr. would be near the bottom. That was before
- 55:16Speaker 1: whatever happened yesterday firing the coach in the middle of
- 55:18Speaker 1: the game. I think Jim Moore Jr. is one of
- 55:21Speaker 1: the biggest, I don't even want to say it, but
- 55:26Speaker 1: Absolute D-bag. I've always thought that. And a lunatic. Lamar
- 55:33Speaker 1: was in a walking boot. Not ideal. As someone that
- 55:37Speaker 1: was on the Titans today, I got very lucky. The
- 55:41Speaker 1: Ravens could have beat them if he doesn't get hurt
- 55:43Speaker 1: 60 to 10. The Titans are so bad. He gets hurt.
- 55:48Speaker 1: They kind of go prevent operation. They end up winning by,
- 55:53Speaker 1: I think, less than 10 points. But Titans. Titans stink.
- 55:58Speaker 1: I mean, Sal, love the guy, but his gig's in trouble.
- 56:17Speaker 1: And I'll end on this. I am blown away. We
- 56:24Speaker 1: have seen so many guys who Clowney comes to mind,
- 56:29Speaker 1: but there have been other players who are viewed as
- 56:31Speaker 1: elite prospect, are going to go to the pros, get
- 56:36Speaker 1: drafted really high, and are just the best player in
- 56:38Speaker 1: college football. And their junior year is always kind of
- 56:42Speaker 1: weird because you don't want to get injured. You always
- 56:46Speaker 1: kind of toggle between being there for your team, but
- 56:51Speaker 1: half-assing it a little bit because what do you got
- 56:53Speaker 1: to play for? It's a tough spot. You're about to
- 56:56Speaker 1: sign a $ 40, $ 50 million contract. Now, the guys now,
- 56:59Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith's a good example. There are rumors that he's
- 57:02Speaker 1: making $ 8, $ 10 million, and he's underpaid, clearly. So he's
- 57:06Speaker 1: making money unlike previous, before the NIL generation, obviously didn't,
- 57:12Speaker 1: beside brown bags of $ 40, $ 50K and a free car.
- 57:16Speaker 1: This guy's making millions of dollars. That being said, he's
- 57:20Speaker 1: already won a national championship. He is widely, I would
- 57:24Speaker 1: say universally regarded as the best player in college football non-quarterback.
- 57:28Speaker 1: And a lot of people argue, like, is there a
- 57:30Speaker 1: quarterback worth taking over him? And I think it's a
- 57:32Speaker 1: fair argument. I think he is almost guaranteed to be
- 57:37Speaker 1: the first non-quarterback off the board unless there is some
- 57:40Speaker 1: Trent Williams, Miles Garrett level, guy on the line of
- 57:44Speaker 1: scrimmage that we're not that familiar with yet. You know,
- 57:48Speaker 1: I think there are some question marks about Colin Simmons
- 57:50Speaker 1: at Texas, his size. But he's obviously a really talented player.
- 57:55Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a tackle viewed as some blue-chip
- 57:58Speaker 1: Jonathan Ogden-level guy. Watching Jeremiah Smith these last couple weeks,
- 58:04Speaker 1: he's got a combined– he had 23 catches the last
- 58:08Speaker 1: two weeks for 200– 25 yards and six touchdowns, and
- 58:13Speaker 1: on the season he has 44 catches, 820 yards, and
- 58:16Speaker 1: nine touchdowns in five games. He is playing like his
- 58:21Speaker 1: job is on the line every snap. His effort against Iowa,
- 58:25Speaker 1: against Illinois, is like he's playing for the national championship.
- 58:30Speaker 1: And if you, these people scouting him, are going to
- 58:33Speaker 1: go tell their general managers that It is crazy to
- 58:37Speaker 1: watch a guy this good who's already accomplished, and people
- 58:39Speaker 1: will be like, well, he hasn't won the Heisman yet.
- 58:41Speaker 1: It's like, well, okay. Most people, if his drive is like,
- 58:47Speaker 1: I just want to win the Heisman, that's insane. I
- 58:51Speaker 1: have the utmost respect watching this guy play. I said
- 58:55Speaker 1: it after the Texas game when they lost. They did
- 58:57Speaker 1: not throw him the ball enough. He had eight catches
- 58:59Speaker 1: for 164 yards in that. He should have had 14
- 59:02Speaker 1: or 15 catches in that game. He was unstoppable. He
- 59:05Speaker 1: has been a one man wrecking crew this season. And
- 59:09Speaker 1: it like got announced that, you know, Portnoy and those
- 59:11Speaker 1: guys at barstool got fired because Ohio state wanted them gone.
- 59:15Speaker 1: And Fox had to kind of, you know, acquiesce to
- 59:18Speaker 1: their demands. Well, yeah, they kind of do. Ohio state
- 59:21Speaker 1: is carrying the conference right now. We'll see how good
- 59:23Speaker 1: Indiana is this week against Nebraska. Um, I think they
- 59:28Speaker 1: might be down a little bit from last year. They're
- 59:29Speaker 1: still pretty good. And Oregon's got to get their shit
- 59:31Speaker 1: together still. But the Big Ten's in shambles. And Michigan
- 59:35Speaker 1: is the opposite of Ohio State right now. A complete joke.
- 59:39Speaker 1: Unwatchable product. We make a lot of fun about the
- 59:41Speaker 1: Eagles being tough watch. Michigan's an awful watch. And there
- 59:45Speaker 1: was this viral screenshot of last year's freshman class. The
- 59:51Speaker 1: top two players in the entire class were Bryce Underwood,
- 59:54Speaker 1: who was the number one player And Keelan Russell, who's
- 59:57Speaker 1: the number two player. And people quoting it like, how's
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: this possible? This gets to the draft. There are no
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: sure things. But I feel like Jeremiah Smith is for
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: sure a thing at that position as we've seen since
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, that level of player. Julio Jones.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: At wide receiver, you're dependent on your coordinator and your
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: quarterback to But I can't see that guy not becoming
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: a high end player. You know, Marvin Harrison just kind
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: of goes through the most. This guy plays like his
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: life is on the line every game. It is. It's remarkable.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: And the Underwood thing, like he's obviously terrible and they
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: would like their money back. But there are quarterbacks all
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: the time, just like there are players all the time
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: that are five stars, top player, top two player, who
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: aren't any good. And then there are other guys in
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: that list, like Keelan Russell, who immediately looks like a star.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Alabama just lost their quarterback to the NFL draft. He
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: went 13th, which was kind of crazy. But still, there's
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: a team who's just in the NFC Championship, whose GM
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: has the Super Bowl, who picked the guy 13th in
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: the draft. And the gap in which they've upgraded is
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: like the size of the Grand Canyon. Alabama is so
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: much better this year just because of Keelan Russell, their
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: big playability. That game against Georgia this week is going
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: to be fantastic. And, you know, obviously DeBoers beat Kirby
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: two straight years in the regular season. Listen, if this
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: quarterback keeps playing like he's playing, if you're Alabama, if anything,
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: you're just mad that Bryce Underwood didn't end up at–
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: at LSU where you're supposed to go with Brian Kelly
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: because you get to play him every single year. Well,
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: you wouldn't get to play him, actually. Lane would have
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: got rid of him. Absolutely no chance Lane would have
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: played this guy. And it's not all his fault. Michigan
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: has a little bit of a vibe. I think Kyle Whittingham,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: in the peak of his powers, one of the best
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: college coaches of my life. What he did at Utah,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: went to the Pac-12, went to the Rose Bowl. Utah,
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: like 20 years ago, was in the WAC, Western Athletic Conference.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: with teams like Fresno State, San Diego State, New Mexico.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: That's who they were playing. And then 15, 10 years later,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: they're in the Rose Bowl. Kyle Whittingham was excellent. So
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: was Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll won national championships. Pete Carroll
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: went to back-to-back Super Bowls. If it wasn't for a
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: pass call on a second down, they'd win back-to-back Super Bowls.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: But by the time Pete Carroll got to the Raiders,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: he was washed. He was shot. And that's what it
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: feels like, Kyle Whittingham. my guess is that Kyle Whittingham,
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: like Bryce Underwood, are not part of this Michigan program.
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: Because right now, you know, in the business Fox is
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: in with the Big Ten, it's pretty important to have
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Michigan good. Just like it's pretty important to have USC good.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: And USC's decent. Like, they'll probably still win nine games,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: but they're very flawed. Michigan is terrible. Michigan is, they
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: get their ass kicked in that game. You know, if
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: Minnesota had a little more, I would say, firepower, that's
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: a 25-point game. They got worked. I can't believe how
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: much of that game I watched. At one point in time,
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I watching this? I don't have
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: money on the game. I'm not a Michigan or Minnesota fan.
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: I guess it was because I was rooting for the
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: ball guy. And that's how I will end this. If
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: Michigan's smart. assuming Minnesota keeps playing well and wins eight
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: or nine games with one of the lowest budgets in
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: the conference, why wouldn't you just hire that guy? Look
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: what he's doing in Minnesota. What do you think he'd
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: do with you where he can recruit a better player
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: but also develop with his energy and effort? Like, are
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: we going to discriminate against the ball community? I'd go
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: out and get P.J. Fleck. Adios, have a great night.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. The Volume.