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THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS PT 3: If You've Been Abused, You Cannot Be Accused · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Julia from Cosmic Peach podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm delighted to have you and we get to talk again.
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  Speaker 4: they've been through the same stuff and it sucks, and
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  Speaker 4: that right, But I'm happy to bring you today something
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  Speaker 4: that's more up both of our all as far as
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  Speaker 4: ritualism s a. You know, it could it could be
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  Speaker 4: considered like like a true crime topic. I would consider
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  Speaker 4: it to be a more conspiratorial type of topic, but.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of a hot button issue. Yeah, it's really mad
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 4: It touches on several different categories. Is it is it
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  Speaker 4: fake and staged? Is it real? If it's real, what
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  Speaker 4: does that mean? And it's the topic of the Menendez brothers.
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  Speaker 4: So before I just jump right in, what do you
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  Speaker 4: know and what are your thoughts, feelings, opinions on the brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, uh, I I remember when it happened, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: seeing it on the news. Man, I was younger at
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  Speaker 1: the time, obviously, but it it seemed like shocking, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if that was before I think
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  Speaker 1: it was after the OJ thing, maybe a little bit after. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of used to seeing this
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  Speaker 1: crap on the TV and the trials and all the
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  Speaker 1: hooplah and the news, but I was too young to
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  Speaker 1: really pay attention. I thought it was like, holy crap,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they killed their parents, of all people to
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  Speaker 1: kill you know, so they're really got people's heart strings going,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and the news loved that crap. They could
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  Speaker 1: plaster it all over everything and make money on the
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  Speaker 1: you know. And you know, as I got older, I
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  Speaker 1: thought about, like, why would they do that if they're
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  Speaker 1: both over eighteen? Why if they didn't like their parents
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, Why didn't they just leave, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: a normal person. What could have made them do that?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 1: But I had never really investigated too much. I did
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  Speaker 1: hear about the the hair brush or whatever, and the
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  Speaker 1: sexual abuse. Sorry, my heater just turned on, I turned off.
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  Speaker 1: I did hear about that. And I also heard rumors
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  Speaker 1: of Minudo, the guy who manages Manudo is the father
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  Speaker 1: of so I like that whole situation makes me think, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: because I know about Menudo rape of the little Manudo
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  Speaker 1: boy and how that's like a joke amongst the comedians.
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  Speaker 1: I forget which comedians, But anyway, I do know of
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  Speaker 1: this topic, and I haven't gone deep into it. I
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  Speaker 1: know Netflix just did a serie or a thing and
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  Speaker 1: I just refuse to click, like the like, Netflix is
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  Speaker 1: just so poisonous, and I know that it's going to
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  Speaker 1: try to like invade my brain with some kind of
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  Speaker 1: or like cover over some truth that's important, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't even I didn't even watch that. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming with a pretty much fresh mind here for this,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I'll do the critical thinking as we
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  Speaker 1: go along, but I don't have any ideas one way
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  Speaker 1: or the other.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well, I feel like it's a topic that by
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  Speaker 4: the end of this presentation you will really appreciate because
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  Speaker 4: it's stuff that you and I have talked about before,
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  Speaker 4: like with the SRA and everything. And you know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you're a huge American Horror Story fan, but.
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  Speaker 1: No of it. I've seen the first couple of seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Well they're packed with conspiracy shit, Like they got tons
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  Speaker 4: of little breadcrumbs sprinkled throughout every season. And Ryan Murphy
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  Speaker 4: is the guy who's doing these new monster series on Netflix.
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  Speaker 4: So he did one on Dahmer, he did one on
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  Speaker 4: the Menendez brother Oh, he did one on ed Yan recently.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody's talking about Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I got invested into the Brothers because I love American
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  Speaker 4: horror story and I had been watching those monster series
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  Speaker 4: just to see if he would sprinkle anything in their
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  Speaker 4: program to kill Dave McGowan esque, or if he was
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  Speaker 4: gonna like add spices just uh, you know, curiosity kills
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  Speaker 4: the cat, as they say. So I've been watching them, and.
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  Speaker 1: All right, you have a you have a clear mind.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's what, You're not going to
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  Speaker 1: be fool.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting to see, like what narrative they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: put out there, just you know, as somebody who has
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  Speaker 4: read Program to Kill and understands that there's more to
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  Speaker 4: the story than meets the eye. I like to see
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  Speaker 4: what mainstream narrative they push with these serial killers, like
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  Speaker 4: their lone nuts, crazy psychopaths. You know, they're the boogeyman
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  Speaker 4: hiding under your bed when it's like they're most likely
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  Speaker 4: involved in some networks and shit that they don't want
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  Speaker 4: you to know about.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But a boogeyman is effective to ramp up the
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  Speaker 1: fear anxiety of the nation. Yeah, like the Summer of
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  Speaker 1: sam you know that whole like everybody like women were
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  Speaker 1: cutting their hair when because they thought that the killer
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  Speaker 1: wanted long hair, you know, the Bundy or whatever. So
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  Speaker 1: like it affects the psyche of the people. So that
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  Speaker 1: is also very important. You know, that relates to the
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  Speaker 1: kind of research that William and Hans and I have
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  Speaker 1: been doing on the median candidate, you know that type
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, like by crippling the public like Grock the clown,
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  Speaker 1: then they create like a helpless slave type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So like by crippling everyone in fear, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we need the cops to save me, you know that
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  Speaker 1: whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: And it's really I agree with that one hundred percent too,
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  Speaker 4: because it makes you want to lock your door. It
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  Speaker 4: makes you want to you know. It's just you don't
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  Speaker 4: feel safe, and that's another part of it. And you
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  Speaker 4: can be convicted in the court of public opinion. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that they set out to do this boogeyman
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  Speaker 4: shit with the Menindoz brothers. I think they actually set
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  Speaker 4: them out to be made an example out of, like, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: all you kids out there getting raped by musical moguls
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  Speaker 4: and fucking Hollywood elite types. This is what we have
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  Speaker 4: for you. If you decide you can't take it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, this is what we have for you.
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  Speaker 4: If you can't take one more ass rape from your dad,
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  Speaker 4: We'll give you life in prison without parole. They went
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  Speaker 4: for the gas chamber. Initially, they wanted to kill them,
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  Speaker 4: and how did they make them out in the media
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  Speaker 4: like two spoiled rich boys who wanted their parents' money
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  Speaker 4: and killed their parents over it. Like they actually made
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  Speaker 4: fun of them on Saturday Night Life. Of course they
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  Speaker 4: And it was like parts of the trial where they
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  Speaker 4: broke down crying and they were describing what their dad
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  Speaker 4: had been doing to them, and they took it and
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  Speaker 4: they brought it to Saturday Night Live and they made
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  Speaker 4: it a joke. And it's like they wanted to make
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  Speaker 4: an example out of these boys, like this is what
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  Speaker 4: we have for you if you think that you can
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  Speaker 4: fuck with the pedaphocracy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: They so the way that the little brother Eric described
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  Speaker 4: it was the only way he was going to get
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  Speaker 4: the rape to stop was to kill they. He literally
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  Speaker 4: he was so full of rage towards his parents that
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  Speaker 4: they took shotguns and they literally blew the faces off
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  Speaker 4: of their parents. You got to think, like what it
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  Speaker 4: would take to want to blow the face off of
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  Speaker 4: your mom and dad? Like what is going on that
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  Speaker 4: you had to literally deface them? And it's a crime
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  Speaker 4: of passion. That's not money. If you want money, you
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  Speaker 4: just shoot them and be done with it. You don't
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  Speaker 4: go ten times to the face.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, after hitting them once in the face, you think
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  Speaker 1: could they need to do it nine more times?
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  Speaker 4: Right? And then you find out it's like, well, what
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  Speaker 4: did the mom do to deserve that she knew and
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  Speaker 4: participated willingly in what the dad was doing to those boys.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's where the Sra family is say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and if you know, look at uh what was the
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  Speaker 1: natural born killers? And they've killed the parents and they're
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  Speaker 1: lighting she's lighting her mom on fire, and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: you never did nothing.
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 4: She even had a term that she would use, like
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  Speaker 4: if people came over to the house and jose was
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  Speaker 4: in the bedroom with one of the boys and somebody
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  Speaker 4: tried to go down the hallway, she had like a
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  Speaker 4: word for it, like it's red time or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: like don't go down the hallway. She knew. And how
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  Speaker 4: do you crawl in the bed with your husband every
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  Speaker 4: night in sleep next to a man who is raping
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  Speaker 4: your boys? How do you have sex with a man
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  Speaker 4: that is raping your boys?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, did she ever Like maybe she didn't because
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  Speaker 1: he's busy dumping loads in the shop.
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  Speaker 4: She got jealous of her boys because they were getting
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  Speaker 4: more than she was. Wow, and it's like, what did
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  Speaker 4: the mom do? I think she in a way was
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  Speaker 4: worse than the dad in a lot of ways. So
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  Speaker 4: who we're talking about is Jose and Kiddy Menindez. Those
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  Speaker 4: are the victims, the parents in this situation. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 4: what they That's what they would like you to believe,
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  Speaker 4: is that they were just these pitiful, innocent they were
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  Speaker 4: eating strawberries and cream on a Saturday night and their
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  Speaker 4: sons just blew their heads off. No, that's not that's
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's something deeper, darker here. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: Jose came from this Menindez family that is Cuban royalty.
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  Speaker 4: It's the elite class of UH families of Cuba, the Menendez,
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  Speaker 4: So they migrated over here. And as he was raping
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  Speaker 4: his sons, he would talk about how this is part
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  Speaker 4: of the family tradition, and fathers do this to their sons,
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  Speaker 4: and then their sons do grow up and do that
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  Speaker 4: to their sons. And it's totally natural because the Greeks
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  Speaker 4: Uh and the what they would have sex with each
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  Speaker 4: other before battle and all this weird stuff, and he
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  Speaker 4: would like try to make them feel if if they
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  Speaker 4: didn't want this, that they weren't manly or they weren't
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  Speaker 4: like this is this should be a natural thing to you.
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  Speaker 4: This is what our family does. And it's generational fucking satanism. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I don't care what country you're from. If you're the
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  Speaker 4: elite royalty class of where up, Cuba, Guatemala, I don't
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  Speaker 4: give a fuck. You know they're doing this shit right,
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  Speaker 4: They're in an elite class, royalty fucking whatever and they
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  Speaker 4: be raping their.
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  Speaker 1: Kids bother doing that. What the fuck man?
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  Speaker 4: So we're talking about this elite class of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the elites that rape children. And somehow it's the
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  Speaker 1: same old same, This is a new rock red turning over?
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  Speaker 1: Why is it the same old worms hiding the fuck man?
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  Speaker 4: And it takes it takes a conspiracy theorist to unpack this,
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  Speaker 4: because if you hear about who this guy is on paper,
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  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, he was a really stand up, uh
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  Speaker 4: influential member of society, and he's this and he's that.
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  Speaker 4: In the show Monsters, they literally compared him to being
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  Speaker 4: as influential as Spielberg. That's what they said.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably on purpose Spielberg do right for Okay, they
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  Speaker 1: literally compared this guy to the most famous Hollywood rapist. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of children is just like Spielberg. It rapes children just
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  Speaker 1: like Spielberg.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like it's like they're saying that's his to
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  Speaker 4: show how influential he was behind the scenes or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, he signed that boy band Minudo. He also
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  Speaker 4: played some kind of major role in overseeing the majority
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  Speaker 4: of halland Oates hit records. So this guy ain't like
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  Speaker 4: just a nobody.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's got that Holland Oates money.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, he's got all oh yeah, And he was trying
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  Speaker 4: to get into politics. He wanted to run for Senate
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  Speaker 4: in Florida, but he was currently living in Los Angeles, California,
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  Speaker 4: and he was a part of all these like Live
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  Speaker 4: Entertainment and RCA records. And it's like, if you heard
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  Speaker 4: that and you didn't know what we know, you'd be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: he was just like a really you know, he was
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  Speaker 4: a executive type of fucking CEO guy. And that's so
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  Speaker 4: terrible what happened to him. We know what kind of
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  Speaker 4: people those are.
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  Speaker 1: Right, especially the politician ones. He's checking all.
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  Speaker 4: The fucking boxes, all right, And people have said that
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  Speaker 4: the Menindaz brothers are making it up. They call it
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  Speaker 4: the abuse excuse, and they say that they killed their
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  Speaker 4: parents for money. My problem, I have many problems with that.
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  Speaker 4: First off, they didn't need the money because they were
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  Speaker 4: still living with their parents and they wanted for nothing.
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  Speaker 4: So why kill your parents when, like, what would be
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  Speaker 4: the point of you already have the money? Right, they
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  Speaker 4: defaced them. That's about more than just money. And right,
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  Speaker 4: the home in and of itself something that again you
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  Speaker 4: would miss if you didn't know what you were looking for,
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  Speaker 4: black and white tile floors throughout the home of course, right, Okay, is.
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  Speaker 1: He a freemason the dead? Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: I bet he was. I mean, there's not a a
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  Speaker 4: lot of information on him that doesn't make him look
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  Speaker 4: like some kind of saint.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, freemasons or saints in some cases
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  Speaker 1: in this country. But you know, uh, the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he's so well connected into the industry and like he's
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  Speaker 1: a high born family from wherever makes me think he's
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  Speaker 1: probably uh one of the widow's sons, you know, part
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  Speaker 1: of the brotherhood there.
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  Speaker 4: You know. And the way that he talks about this is.
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  Speaker 4: This is just our family. This is what our family does.
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  Speaker 1: This is it's like this obviously same thing with Nathan Reynolds,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what the you know,
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  Speaker 1: like these fucking SRA generational SRA victims, they're like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: grab it did that to me, you know, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: it to you Like that does not give me excuse,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not does not compute not morally correct.
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  Speaker 4: And the problem too, is I there you can look
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  Speaker 4: for on YouTube if anybody. I've done the hard work
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  Speaker 4: for you, so you don't have to four hours worth
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  Speaker 4: of trial footage that I've watched over and over again,
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  Speaker 4: because you know you're the same way you've done this
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  Speaker 4: with like eyes wide shut and like different movies. The
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  Speaker 4: more to watch it, the more you get from it.
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  Speaker 4: So I've watched the four hour fucking trial footage over
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  Speaker 4: and over and over again. Then I watched a he's
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  Speaker 4: like a psychologist guy, but he works with people who
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  Speaker 4: have been abused and raped as children and have PTSD,
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  Speaker 4: and he analyzed the trial footage to determine whether or
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  Speaker 4: not he could yeah, they if they were being deceptive,
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  Speaker 4: if it seemed like they were acting if it seemed
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  Speaker 4: like they were making shit up on the spot, and
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  Speaker 4: he said every bit of their testimony was consistent with
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  Speaker 4: someone who had been through not just trauma, but like severe,
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  Speaker 4: you know, dissociative type of trauma. And it this guy,
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  Speaker 4: maybe he has a confirmation bias, I hope not. But
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  Speaker 4: what would he have to lie about being a neutral,
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  Speaker 4: objective person in this I mean, there's more than enough
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  Speaker 4: evidence to suggest that these these boys went through something horrible, right,
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  Speaker 4: And if we look at what they said, it's oddly specific.
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  Speaker 4: It's not something that you would just want to make up.
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  Speaker 4: It started with massages, then it went to front rubs,
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  Speaker 4: then it went to mouth rubs, you know, then it right,
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  Speaker 4: then it went to what they referred to as object sessions.
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  Speaker 1: What is an object session? Is that the hair brush?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he would you what they referred to as shaving utensils, toothbrush,
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  Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff. They said. He would leave a
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  Speaker 4: big jar of vasoline in their rooms, and when it
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  Speaker 4: was object session time, he would play with their bee holes,
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  Speaker 4: put stuff in their bee holes. And the point was
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  Speaker 4: to get them ready for something bigger, and that was
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  Speaker 4: his penis. But he started with making them penetrate him first,
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  Speaker 4: and he would say, I'm gonna teach you how to
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  Speaker 4: use your penis. And both of them say that it
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  Speaker 4: started when they were six years old, and the way
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  Speaker 4: they describe it, it would be absolutely beyond me that
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  Speaker 4: they are just making this stuff up in the moment,
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  Speaker 4: I mean the looks on their faces, their body language,
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  Speaker 4: and you know they are being cross examined. And one
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  Speaker 4: of the questions was did you cry, did you bleed?
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  Speaker 4: Did you you know, cry for your mommy? And it's
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  Speaker 4: like yes, yes, yes, And you know, one of the
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  Speaker 4: brothers talks about it hurts so bad that he had
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  Speaker 4: to leave his self. That's how he described it. I
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  Speaker 4: had to leave myself and he said it was so
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  Speaker 4: painful and it was so excruciating, I had to leave myself.
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  Speaker 4: And then after every time he would go throw up.
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  Speaker 4: And the mom is right there. Think about you can't
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  Speaker 4: even go to your fucking mom for comfort, for relief,
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  Speaker 4: for sanctuary, because she's in on it. You're comes out
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  Speaker 4: of his bedroom crying, throwing up, and you get in
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  Speaker 4: bed with your husband that night like nothing ever happened.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: She actually had a rule where if you were crying
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: too much, you had to put like soap in your
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: eyes as like a punishment for crying, because she didn't
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: want to see them crying after he got done with
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: his sessions or whatever in their bedrooms. So you tell me,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: it's like Saturday Night Live. Literally, they were trying to
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: make an example out of these boys. They made fun
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: of them, they shamed them. They said boys can't get raped.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: They said, you know, the Meninda's brothers did this for
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: money and they've made up this whole abuse excuse. And
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the weird thing is it was sandwiched in between the
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: OJ trial. They went to jail before OJ, but they
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: were convicted after OJ, so it went on. It was
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: like a sandwich. And the I'm going to tie the
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: OJ thing in in more detail here in a second.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: But the district attorney at that time was trying to
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: get reelected and he said he needed a win and
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: he didn't care how he got it. And with OJ
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: being acquitted, he fucking rail roaded the dog shit out
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: of the Menindez brothers to get them convicted. They wouldn't
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: even let There was two trials. The first trial was
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: a mistrial because all the women on the panel went
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: for manslaughter and all the men on the panel said
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: boys can't get raped, and they wouldn't budge on that,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: and they wanted to go for the gas chamber for
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the boys. So they did a mistrial and in the
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: second trial, one of the brothers wasn't even allowed to testify.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: None of the sexual abuse stuff was allowed to be
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: admitted into the second trial. Manslaughter was taken off the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: table for the second trial, so it was literally set
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: up and designed to bring about a first degree murder charge,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: and they wanted the gas chamber for these boys. So
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: if you ask me, I think it was sensationalized because
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: they wanted people to see this is what happens to
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: you if you come up against the pedaphocracy, If you
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: cannot take one more ass rape from your dad and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: you have to blow his fucking face off to get
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it to stop, this is what we have for you.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: We will not be there for you, we will not
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: sympathize with you, will make you a mockery. And they're
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: still in prison to this day.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So this was also during the Satanic panic, right, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: they were vehemently denying any anything there as well, saying
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that that's not real and those kids made it up
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and Uh, so it just gets swept on the rug,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, it's.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: It gets swept under the rug. But it's also very
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: malicious in the way that they portray people because until
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: this episode, right now, what would you have really thought
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: about two rich kids living in LA who murdered their
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: parents like this?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would assume that they were just
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: spoiled because they're from LA, you know, right, Yeah, But
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, but I don't assume everybody like I don't.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think about could they have been abused? When
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I just see from a peripheral, you know, just you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in passing, I'm not really looking deep enough to think, oh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: maybe they were. Maybe they had a reason to do that,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you know, because their mom and dad.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Right, the point of contention for a lot of people
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: is their shopping spree after their parents died. And I
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: want to address that because it's a huge point of contention.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: The problem with their shopping spree for me, and maybe
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: this is just because I'm a conspiracy theorist, is if
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you had to live their life, I don't think they
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: spent enough money. I don't think they fucking bought enough shit.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think they bought enough cars, had enough parties,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: bought enough rolelexes to ever fucking make up for the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: life that they had. Okay, so the people get hung
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: up on well, after their parents died, they went on
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: a big shopping spree with all this money they had.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Who gives a fuck? Do you want to trade lives?
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Like do you want the I mean how much?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: How often did they ever have freedom to do that
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and spend their money?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And it's like how many as rapes from your dad?
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Is a Gucci sweater worth to you? Like do you think.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody out there maybe.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Twisted, maybe it's worth one dad ass rape? But I
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: don't know, but listen for me. It's like, do you
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: think if like back to the future, if like Doc
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Brown screeched up in the Doloreum was like, come on,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Lyle and Eric get in. We're gonna make it to
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: where a middle class family adopts you guys, and you
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: never have to know any burning sensation in your bee
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: hole besides like some bad diarrhea from time to time,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Like you think they wouldn't have traded you. I mean,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: it's just ridiculous to me.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And really, like it's their money, They're free to do
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: what they want, they have free will, like, like, it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: not just because they killed parents that means they're gonna
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: spend a bunch of money. See it's proof. You know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make it's not I mean, it doesn't mater.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: In my opinion, they didn't spend enough money after those
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: hundreds died. And it's it's like two things can exist
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: at the same time. They can be spoiled, rich, entitled
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: assholes who got raped by their dad. They don't have
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: to be separate. A lot of these like look at
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: look at Drew Barrymore, look at a lot of these
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Disney kids that have like a bunch of money and
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: shit like look at Miley Cyrus and like her dad
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: was already wealthy and then she became handa Montana and
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: did all this shit. Like they have money. Okay, they're entitled,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: they're rich, they're spoiled kids. It doesn't stop them from
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: being cogs in the fucking pedal machine. It doesn't, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: they they want for nothing, but it does not stop
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: them from being victims.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, money is not the uh. The real currency
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of the elite is children. That's the real money. So
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, where did you, like, how did you learn
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: all this about the dad and the sessions. Where was
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that published?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: It is actually in the trial footage they were cross
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: examined on things about their dad. If you google Jose Menindez,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: it will show you everything he ever did. He signed
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: the Menudo Boys right now, apparently you know it's it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: just in And the thing too is like, I want
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to play a couple clips from the trial footage for
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you because it's important to see and you can you
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: can make up your mind where whether or not you
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: think it's a performance, because if it is, it's astounding.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: If you know, if that it's just the performance something
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: they made up, that's absolutely fucking astounding.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to look it up or do
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you want to find Oh yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I could, I could. I could probably look it up.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: And there's just a few parts you'll have to see.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: But the black and white tiles throughout the Menindez home
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: should be a red flag to anyone. The fact that
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: their dad was as influential as Spielberg should tell you something.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's just a lot.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Spielberger also used objects. You know that's like, uh, what's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: her name from the Poltergeist?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, aroic passed on from an.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Object and they have names for this ship. That's the
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: most disturbing part is like you're groomed into thinking that
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: this is a normal thing that should be object sessions.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Session.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: It's like the one brother Eric, he got it the worst.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: He was raped up until about three months before he
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: shot his parents in the face. The older brother Lyle
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: he got off the hook and he said the last
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: time he got raped was when he was like eight
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: years old. So from six to eight years old he
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: was raped by his dad, and then I guess his
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: dad retired him and started on the little brother and
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: happened to just like him a lot more. And he
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: was raped from six to eighteen. So if you and
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: they ask him how many times a month would this happen,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: and he said at least three or four times a month.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: His dad would either want him to have sex with him,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: or he would his dad would have sex with him.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: So it was like about and forth thing. So if
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: you take from six to eighteen years old, he was
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: raped by his dad hundreds of times. And people are
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: caught up on the fact that he bought a jeep
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: wrangler after they died, like fuck a jeep wrangler. If
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: you got to get raped by your dad, hundreds of
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. They're caught up on the
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: wrong part, right, I mean.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: The money doesn't mean any it doesn't mean that he
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: wasn't raped, like yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: So.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: All right now this right? I mean they even had evidence, right,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they even had the hair brush and stuff.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: They had photos their dad had taken of their genitals
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: that he was selling to people. Wow, their dad somehow
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: was involved in some market for snuff films that he
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: would show them, just like Michael Achino and the Presidio
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: daycare stuff, that he would take the kids and show
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: him some films. His dad was doing that to them.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And then this part is probably the most graphic of all. So,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: but you're listening to Wake the Dead Slash each podcast,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: so it's not for those with delicate sensibilities. So only
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: the true at heart can continue beyond this point. The
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: aspect of the satanic ritual abuse. I don't even think
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: they realized that this is what it was, because they
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: didn't use the term satanic ritual abuse. But if you
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: heard it described, you would know what it was. Right,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: His dad would come in his room. This is Eric
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Menindez age six to eighteen. This happened several times. His
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: dad would come in his room and he would take
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: a slat from under his bed and wedge it against
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the door so nobody could get in. Light candles all
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: throughout his bedroom, and he would take rope and pins
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: and knives and he would rape Eric and stick pins
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: in his legs and tie rope around his penis, and
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: he would burn him. He would cut him with knives
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: all while he was raping him. And this was described
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: in graphic detail through the trial. And to me, maybe
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: he didn't use the term satanic ritual abuse, but knowing
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: where he comes from, knowing this, he said, this is
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: what my dad did to me, and you're going to
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: do it to your son one day. Knives and pins
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: and needles and rope and lighting candles in a circle
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: around the bed. Like what does this sound like to you? Like?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: What really?
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: What does this? What is this to you?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: That's like some Albert Fish type shit, you know, the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: fucking needles, that's I mean. It could be that he
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: was abused and then this is like the fallout of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: his mind after and now he thinks this is well
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and good. You know, maybe he's demonized. I think so, right,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: maybe he has something inside that's making him want to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: do that because it doesn't seem human.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't the problem with this also is
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: he made him look in a mirror as he was
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: doing this to him and look at himself as he
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: was getting raped and cut and rope and torture. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: they called it the mirror exercise.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: And he said when his dad would get in to
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: these sessions that it was almost as if he was
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: looking through him, like he wasn't there, Like the lights
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: are on, but nobody's home. The eyes were vacant. Tell me, Like,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and they'll say, oh, they just made all this stuff
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: up on the spot because they wanted their parents' money.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: This is oddly specific shit, okay to be making up
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: on the spot.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Yeah, the dad is switching. He's like
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: having a different person come out m you know, and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: maybe that person has a demon that you know, maybe
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that personality is like Jay Parker used to talk about
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: when his dad would turn and his face would change
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and he would be a demon like and his dad
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: was like member of you know, fuck, I was something
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that marquis of Hell, like the Seventh Marquis of Hell,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: some kind of title like Illuminati, black magic, shit like hierarchy.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So that might be what I mean. Maybe the dad
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: has alters. I mean, if he was abused like that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: as a kid, maybe he was his head split changed,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and now he's you know, different kinds. Maybe that's also
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I was suspecting. Maybe that's also what's wrong with the wife,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the mother who allows that to happen, because
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you know, like look at Alice and eyes white shut.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: You know, she like helps them kidnap her daughter, and
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I'm grateful.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: You know, she definitely played a part in it, and
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: she never she never did sexual acts to the boys,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: but she would make them sleep in the bed with
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: her while she was naked. She would ask them to
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: make comments about her naked body. She locked the little brother,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Eric up in the closet for hours on end and
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: made him like piss and shit and tepperware. She you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: she knew what was going on with the dad and
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: she didn't stop him. And then she would have these
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: checkups quote unquote is what she called them, where she
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: would examine Eric's penis because he ended up getting herpies
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: from his dad, and she would pop the blisters on
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: his penis and these were what she called checkups. So
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, it's like, if you made this
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: shit up on the spot, you deserve a fucking Oscar award.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, come on. And it's like it's like she
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: made Maybe she didn't like literally hold them down and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: get on top of them and rape them, but she
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: played it even almost more significant part in helping it happen.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Right, A lot of mothers, like mothers that are also dissociative,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: will allow it because, you know, because of their own
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: abuse that's not happening, you know, and I don't know.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: And then like the weird, the weird stuff about like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: sleeping in the bed and like commenting that seems like
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: more of the fallout of what the messed up brain
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of someone who had been abused when they were a kid.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: You know, like to think that's normal, is right, And
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to be jealous of your sons because they're getting more
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: than you are.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: That's sick more needles rope, right, So I mean.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: It's just it's absolutely disgusting. And one of the more
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: conspiratorial parts, in my opinion, is the fact that the
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: dad before he became like a music mogul or whatever.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: He was the CFO of Hertz Car rental company, and
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: he signed OJ to a advertisement advertisement deal. Before any
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: of this happened, and OJ used to go to the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Menindez brother's house and kick the football around and he
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: gave an autographed football to Lyle when he was a
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: little boy. And then when OJ went to jail, he
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: was sell neighbors with Eric Menindez. Wow, they and they
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: had an initially the same defense attorney. His name is
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Robert Shapiro. So let me tell you something about this
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: fucking guy.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, do you know who he is? I think I've
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: heard the name yet.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Okay. I recently did an episode it's called the OJ Debate.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: OJ did not do it. I mean, how do you
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: feel about that? I?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like if I don't know, uh the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: that I also remember that in school, and like when
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I was in school, and it was such like a scene.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody's like running through the hallways when he
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: was acquitted and they're all like hooping and yelling and stuff.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: It was really weird. But uh I I noticed that
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: they focused a lot on the race of like the
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the because and this and that and and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they just had that thing with like Rodney whatever, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: why can't we all just get along the whole thing. Yeah, So,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like there was a lot of that racism crap and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: l A cops are really bad, like everybody knows about
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and how they're gangs and ship like they got like
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: l A cops have gangs that are just as ruthless
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: as the street gangs. So like, I mean there's a
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: lot of that. So I didn't know what to think.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And why was those other like why were those other
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: people killed? And like what you know, it's almost it
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: was almost like a like if he wanted to kill
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: his wife, why would he kill the dude on the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: couch and having an affair? You know, I don't know.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: The thing is, actually I did this episode with a
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: guy his name is JJ Vance, and I took, yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: he's really cool. I took the position of OJ did
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: it and he got off when he should have went
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: to jail. And JJ took the position of he was
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: actually set up. Let me show you how, and let
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: me show you all these weird people that played a
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: part in Kim Kardashian's dad and like all this stuff yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: and so actually, by the end of the episode, he
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: had thoroughly convinced me that OJ was getting set the
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: fuck up. And it makes more sense to me now
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that the Menindez Brothers and OJ initially had the same
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: defense attorney and they both fired him because he was
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: trying to get them set the fuck up. It's like,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: this is the guy that gets called in when there's
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: a fucking setup going on. The Menindez Brothers fired him,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: and OJ fired him because this is Robert Shapiro. This
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: guy gets called in when it's time for a fucking setup.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: He's like one of these Hollywood dudes that it's like
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: he gets told, you're going to defend these guys, but
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: this is the outcome we want.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: He takes a dive. Basically, he takes a dive, right right,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So okay, so OJ is connected to this and this
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: so like the whole Hollywood presentation on the news and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: all that is very deeply connected to this. Yeah, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: they wanted to shock us with they got shot in
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the face to their own kids, you know, and like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: look at the horror and everybody's clutching their pearls. And
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: then also the OJ trial is happening.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Their cell mates. Okay, this was ah, let me pull
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: up here ninety six. I want to say, well, it
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: went down in ninety nineteen eighty nine, but by the
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: time they got convicted, it was like nineteen ninety six. Wow,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: because they drew out the first trial so long, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: then they had to do a second trial that got
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: completely railroaded. In nineteen ninety four, there was the end
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: of their first trial where there was a hung jury,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and then nineteen ninety six they were sentenced to life
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: in prison without parole eight days after OJ was acquitted.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: And the district attorney was up for reelection, and because
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: OJ was acquitted, he was out for fucking blood and
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: he wanted a win and he needed the Menindez brothers
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: to go down for this. They didn't have. They didn't
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: have a fucking shot in hell at winningness.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially as they weren't allowed to bring in their
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: defense of they got raped by their parents. They're not
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: allowed to bring it up in the trial.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I think the excuse for why the first trial ended
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: in a mistrial is bullshit. They said the men on
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: the panel said that boys can't get raped, and they
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: wouldn't sway on their opinion of that, so they had
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: to go to mistrial because they couldn't all agree on shit.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: For me, I'm calling bullshit on that because anybody who
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: listens to their testimony, it's like, whether you're a dude
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: or not, would you secretly be thinking in the back
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: of your head like, Oh, I bet they actually liked it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think the district attorney hijacked
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: the first trial, made it a mistrial so it'd have
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: to go back to trial, and then it was designed
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: in a way to absolutely get a first degree murder
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: charge for them. So the fact that there was even
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: two trials period should tell you that there's something afoot, right.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So really, ultimately, the all the SRA children, all
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the people that are trying to expose the truth of
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the abuse of children during that satanic panic, they this
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: slaps them in the face too at that moment when
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: they're trying to get this truth out. Oh no, you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: can't even bring that up at trial, and that doesn't happen,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and then SNL makes fun of it, and so that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that locks them in to like, I'm a hopeless victim.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: There's no way that I can fight.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: And it's like, think about it. It's like, do you
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: know what we have for you? If you decide to
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: come out against the pedaphocracy, we'll give you. We'll try
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: for the chamber, but if we can't get that, we'll
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: give you life without parole and accompanied by more ass rape.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, And it's like you can't fucking win, right.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Remember the Franklin scandal. The young woman that didn't change
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: her testimony, she didn't recount she was like, yeah, the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: center the whole right, sent to jail for an indefinite
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: amount of time just until she recants her statement.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: This is the problem, Sean, this is what they did
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to the Menindez brothers. Right. They did worse than give
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: them the whole. They gave them life without parole.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: And after the Menindez Brothers show on Netflix came out,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: people started to really change their opinion on these two
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: and they were they They did like some big for
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: the Menindez brothers, March and Gavin Newsom ultimately has the
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: power to change their sentencing or let them go, and
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: he probably rapes his kids. Okay, I'm not excited for
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: the chance of the Menindez Brothers getting released they still
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: as of twenty twenty five, they still have not decided
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: whether he's He has not decided whether or not he's
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: gonna do this for them, But it's like, that's our
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: last hope. Gavin Newsom is our last hope for the
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Menindez Brothers.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's busy dating Katy Perry.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Now and probably raping is does he have kids because
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: they're probably getting raped? All right, I guess. I mean
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: this is the problem. It's like everybody was like, oh, well,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom can release them. Gavin Newsom ain't fucking releasing
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the Menindez fucking brothers. He's not doing it, And if
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: he does, I want to know why and how he
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: benefits from it in some way, because I just don't
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: have a lot of faith in that fucking guy to
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: do something like this.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Now, there there's been a lot of uh innocence fraud,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: like the you know, we I spoke with ROBERTA. Glass
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, maybe now, and she's on
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the pulse of it. You know she knows because I mean,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like the West Memphis three got out of jail because
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: of the movie, and you know, there's a lot of
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: definitely guilty people that they are promoting and saying, hey,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: let him out of jail. Like when when we had
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: her on, it was like a week after this guy
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: was on Joe Rogan who ended up like decapitating somebody
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: like a couple of days later, right god. Yeah, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: he was like the poster boy for those people like
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the you.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Know, Innocence Project or whatever.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: The Innocence Project, right yeah. And then Kim Kardashian has
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: this other thing where it's like innocence something else, like
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: where she's trying to get guilty people out of jail also,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, and then they got the mayors and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: are like hiring district hiring defense lawyers as district attorneys,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: so that they got only defense lawyers and nobody's like
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: convicting anybody anymore, and they're just it's really like a situation.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Uh so, like you know, it might. I mean, it's
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: just like I saw that the whole freedom Inndez Brothers
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: thing was going around. I was like, oh, is this
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: more of that, because you know it could.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: They would like you to lump them in there though,
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: you know, with like the actual they did it actually
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: murder their parents, but it's like they want to think
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: that they're like scum of the earth. They don't want
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: they don't want you to know about their dad, who
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: their dad really was. They don't want you to know
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: what their mom was really like because it's I mean,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I want to show some stuff from the trial and
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: then I want to talk about something else that you
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: might even find interesting or not. But it could it
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: could be it could be a Hollywood production, Like what
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: if this is just all fake and staged? Have you
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: ever considered somebody?
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Because it was so sensationalized and it was, uh, the
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: OJ thing, and like there's some other aspects to this
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: that are like this is like a movie. It's got
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: twists and turns and like you would think you went
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: to the theater after you fucking you know saw some
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: of this shit. But let me share my screen here,
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: all right, share sound Okay. So this is the one
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: that I watched. It's like four some four and a
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: half hours along or something, four hours and sixteen minutes.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to find can you hear me?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I can hear you?
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: So you're looking through the transcript right now, Yeah, you
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: find the point, okay, And this is the video is
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Menandez brother's trial Full abuse testimony. Yes, okay, Court TV
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: watch this.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Is Eric Menandez and he's been asked about why they
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: did this to their parents.
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: Mister Menendez, you've heard the testimony of your brother that
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: you and he killed your parents on August twentieth, nineteen
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: eighty nine.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Did you not? Yes, we did?
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: And what do you believe was the originating cause of
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: you and your brother ultimately winding up shooting your parents?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Me telling you telling them, me telling Lyle.
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: That you telling Lole? What is it you telling Lyle
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: about something that was happening my dad?
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Okay? My dad?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: Light?
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: Can I asked the leading question?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: If you don't ask my dad one second, he was
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: in the process of answering, so.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: It was order to ask her.
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: Can you answer the question?
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yes? Okay?
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: Was you telling Lyle what my dad had been blessed
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: than me? And did you want something from your brother?
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: Is that why you told him?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I just I wanted to stop him.
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: Were you seeking help from your brother?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yes? And when you were in Israel in nineteen.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: There's some more parts of this that I want to
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: show you, but your initial thoughts on this, it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Looks real, Like it looks like a real cry.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: I feel his pain, Yeah, I feel. I mean it's.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like the breathing seemed real and
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like he was it was a fake cry.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: You know sometimes that people can't like they make the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: breathing happen when they're fake crying. You know, you can
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: tell there's like missing pieces to that cry.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I agree, And so this is Wile. This is the
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: older brother. And something that I want people to keep
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: in mind is that even if you're under anestee and
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: you don't remember having surgery, your body remembers right. And
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: when you are raped at a very young age, like
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: these boys are saying that they were, you get what's
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: called panda eyes. I'm sure you've heard of this phenomenon
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: where your eyes black out and they bulge and they
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: look crazy.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the the blood rushes to the face
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: so much, because the because of the yeah, the abuse
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: to their rectum.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: So what I would say is when I watch Lyle
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: talking about this, his eyes literally swell up, Like I'm
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: going to go back a little bit so you can
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: see what he looks like before he answers this question
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: and what he looks like after he answers the question,
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: and it's like you can tell his eyes are like
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: sunken in and then they get like almost poofed out.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like his body is even remembering. Does
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: that sound crazy to you or I mean it's to me.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's almost obvious when I look at him.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. I wouldn't think of that, but that
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Yeah, I wonder if that would happen.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm gonna show you a little bit before
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: so you can kind of look at his eyes and
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: then I'm gonna play the clip and then look at
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: his eyes after.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: At some point, did he do some other things to you? Yes?
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: What else did he do? Do you see the eyes
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: before and then now look at his bucking eyes?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they look dark, they look like sunken, kind
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: of puffy.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Like when like when he's talking about this, he's going
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: he's going to like the sunken place. I can see
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: a difference in his face before the question and after.
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: It's it's almost like the dissociative state for him. Yeah,
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna play the rest of this though.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he used that objects?
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: What kind of objects?
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: A toothbrush and some sort of shaving it test brush?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: And what would he do with the toothbrush?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Well, this in the bedroom, we'd have what we called
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: object sessions and just l slide my pants down or
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: take my pants off. Sometimes it would be sh sure
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: a short period of time, sometimes longer.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: It'd s play me on the bed and uh, he'd
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: have a tube of vaciline and.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: He just played with me.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: And was there some point in time when he decided
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: to use something besides the toothbrush?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: And did he try to antally penetrate you with something else?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Who did?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: And what was it?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Hey? Bright me?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Did you cry?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yes? Did you bleed?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Were you scared? Marry?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: Did you ask him not to?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Yes? How did you ask him not to?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I just told him.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: I don't. I don't.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: M your thoughts so far.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems real. I wouldn't make fun of that
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: ship if I did. Saturday Alive.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: John Malkovich John fucking played Lyle Menindez in Saturday to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Day Night Live. Oh wow, Sean, I'm telling you.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Did you hear the episode I did with Carrie?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Is he a raper? O? God?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Tell me more.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: So?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, we're not getting sued here, so uh, I might
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: be mistaken. But Carrie said that someone that she calls
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Prawn Malcovich was at a uh slave party. I guess
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: where they were. They Carrie's handler, Julius William Gates. He
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: gets a name because I fuck that guy. Uh. Carrie's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: handler was hosting Fupa Winfrey to their town and holding
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: a slave party where Carrie was on a leash and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: she was like, I forget how old, she said, like
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: eight or ten or something like that, and she would
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: be dominatrix and abuse the other people's slave children on
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: like in front of everybody as like a you know performance,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: and Prawn Malkovich decided to uh rape his little male
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: slave to death in front of everyone. Now while he
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: was doing it, he was looking around in everybody's eyes,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and uh, all of the other slaves would like put
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: their eyes down and not look at him. But Carrie
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: was in the mode like she had a personality that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: was out that was a dominatrix personality that was like
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: confident and you know, badass, fucking rape your kid person
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and so like she was looking right at him, and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: he was. He was pissed at that, and hated her
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: and then abused her like in like two more times
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: two times in the next two years after that, like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: he wanted to break her inside, like and then he
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to buy her anymore. Uh, like a like
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: a hooker situation, because Gates was mad that he was
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: like messing with Carrie's programming because that altar was supposed
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: to be able to be confident and alpha, but he
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: was trying to break her down. And like if if
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: he wanted the the demure one, then they could just
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: call that up and then she could act that way,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you know. But he he was a psycho at like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: he actually killed the little boy as he was raping
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: him in front of Oprah Winfrey and Don Bruce was
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: there too. That's why she was talking about it because
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: they were talking about eyes White shut and she you know, said, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: that guy was at this party, so like, yeah, Proan
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Malkovich is one of the worst, and like, uh you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: know the fact that they got that that movie being
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: John Malcovich. I always thought it was so funny and
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: cool and like what the fuck now, like thinking about
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: it being people that know what to be John Malcolvich
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: would be like and can you imagine like being in
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the head of the person that does that type of shit.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: You know, Like my husband recently just had me watch
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: that and I was you know, we talked about, Oh,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: it's such a great screenplay, did it it? Now?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: That? Yeah? Dude?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Whoa?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: What the fuck? The Mendez brothers. Wow? For Saturday Night Live.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: That's almost like directly on the nose, like the rapist
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood, one of the worst rapists in Hollywood. They
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: choose that guy to be make fun.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I feel like we should play a little clip
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: from it now, please, Okay, let's stay because.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I guess it wasn't might not have
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: been that guy. I might have been mistaken. I think
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: his name was Prawn. Yeah, because little shrimp of a man. Anyway, Sorry, no,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying this is our opinions.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: Do spot on though, Yeah, yeah, okay, let's just play
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: a little oh wow, and it's Rob Schneider.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we I hate you too. Commercials. You
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: gotta have ad blocker, man. I don't know if YouTube
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: was like fighting with ad blocker for a while, but.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: No, drivers did murder your parents. Our other two brothers,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: Danny Menendez and Jose Menendez Junior.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, good evening. I'm Greg Jared for Core TV.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: We got Mike Myers, Dan Schneider. I think that's it.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Mike Myers is going to pee didty parties right.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then we got we got John Malkovich.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. And Sean, they railroaded these boys.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: They railroaded these boys.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect this to come up. I did not
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: know we were going to talk about old Prawn. This
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: is like I have a full on hatred of that person.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: And like, I mean, I, oh my god. This these
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: type of shows, they they always surprised me. You know,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: it's always like, oh, for sure, this direct connection, this
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: exact person that I might I don't know if it's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: his name. Its opinion. It's my opinion. You can't sue
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: me because I don't know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's too much. And like right here,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: I have a picture it says eerie photos of the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Menindas Mansion in the black and white checked floors.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: It's all it's really all white squares. Really, it's like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: a black field with white squares. It's interesting, and.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's now owned by some Iranian.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Family, sure, friends with Trump.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying now, Yeah, right, okay.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: The guy who Trump sold him a fucking yacht or whatever.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, if you look at the pool room, though, does
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: it not remind you of something shut maybe a little bit.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Well, everybody's got a pool room. I mean, at least
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: it's got a cyan colored felt on the table. You know,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it's not like the jerk with the red.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just you know, so I guess we yeah,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: I guess we can talk about, well, something else that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: is coming up for me, because a lot of people
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: will look at stuff like John Benet Ramsey and they'll say, well,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: what if it was all fake? What if she was
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: like an AI person? And like what if this is
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: just if I don't hate, I don't say person.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that like ninety two or something? What ninety four? Okay? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: AI person, She's just fake. Man. People like they, I mean,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: people have such open minds, their brains fall out, you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Like there's some things like I don't know, I get
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I probably lost more listeners saying that I don't believe
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: that the earth is flat, Like I think I got
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: like half of but like you gotta like you gotta
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: hold it together with some of those things are like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: way out there.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: And you got so much right, yeah, so much, you know,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: and it's it's like you it's like you're saying, you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: I have a line in the sand. Okay, yeah, John Bennet,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: for me, is that lion in the sand? I want
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: to say, Menindez Brothers. Is the line in the sand
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: for me? But if there are some people out there
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: listening to this and they're like, well, what if this
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: is all fake? Anyways, I want to address a couple things.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Please there.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: I believe it's real because there are some numbers and
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: some weird stuff. It could be like an elaborate ritual.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: They could be part of the cult because their parents were.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of weird numbers that pop up
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: throughout the case.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: It could be that their parents were doing something wrong
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: against the cults and then the kid cult. Yeah, the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: kids were sent in to go do that. Like j
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Parker's mother programmed, uh what not? Carring?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: What the not?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt, there's this there's what the hell that this dude
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: who like murdered somebody and then lost his inheritance. It
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: was like the Painter Paint family.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: I think, uh, murdout. Oh man, I've lost I feel
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: like I remember.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: My listeners are probably getting mad.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I remember hearing this.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: But Pont DuPont, Yeah, the DuPont air like he was
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: programmed to go nuts and like kill somebody, and then
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: he went to jail, and then the rest of the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: family who paid for his programming, took all the inheritance
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: that they wanted. It was like a feud between the
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: family members, and then they used s R programming to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: hatch their evil plant. So who's to say, you know,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, maybe that's as far as I'll go.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Like I I do believe the parents died. I do
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: believe like the real people, not AI or whatever. The hell.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. And the only thing that
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: I can say, if people aren't convinced yet is the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: numbers are weird.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Talk about that.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: So, how familiar are you with like Taro and shit
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Like the Tower, Yeah, the Tower is sixteen. I talked
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: about that a bunch. When Trump got elected in twenty sixteen,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's the tower card, the sixteenth Trump
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: twenty six.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: I got all nuts on that, but yeah, and I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: think it plays a part with like nine to eleven, right,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Oh is that right? Because the towers, right, they're designed
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: to look like the eleven. Right.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: And Trump was called on nine to eleven and he
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: was asked what would you do if you were president?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, I'd have f sixteen's flying
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: around right like that type of shit.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that was all over the place because
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: for me, I almost feel like the brothers could represent
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: the eleven like they are the towers, and it would
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: make sense for them to have to carry out this ritual,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: the two of them.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: And I see a lot of weird like tower symbolism
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: and the eleven with a lot of things. So like
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: the murders took place on seven twenty two North Elm
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: on August twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. I'll get in it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: to the August and the eighth thing in a minute.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: But well, let's just unpack that for a second, because
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: seven plus two plus two is eleven, right. The mom
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: was forty seven when she died, four plus seven, and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: you get another eleven. It went down in August. Right,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: now we have our eight, which is like the snake
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: eating its tail, you know how I always talk about
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: the eight, but eighty nine, eight plus nine and seventeen,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: which reduces to another eight, right, seven plus one. The
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: house was sold for seventeen million, which is another eight
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four. If you add
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: it is another eight, right, and then I don't know
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: how you feel about that, But there's a bunch of
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: weird thirteens that keep popping up. So the Menindez brothers
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: hung jury was in ninety four nine plus four fours thirteen,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: which could be reduced to four, but I think the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: thirteen is more significant.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: Eric confessed to the murders on Halloween the thirty first,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: which you know, inverted you get the thirteen again. But
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: for this next one, I'm gonna have to share I
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: screened because you're not gonna fucking believe it. Okay, you're
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: not gonna fucking believe it, Sean, let me show you
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: right now the last thirteen that's gonna fucking blow the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: case wide open. This is a basketball card, right. The
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Menindez brothers are pictured in the back sitting courtside on
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: this basketball card. The player is Mark Jackson, number thirteen.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: Look at this brothers in the background. Wow, what are
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: the chances of the fucking Menen fucking des brothers sitting
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: courtside on the back of number thirteen and this this
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: basketball card. So also, Lyle was dressed as Tom Cruise
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: for Halloween that year from the movie Cocktail. I mean, Sean,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: this stuff is like, is this really a Hollywood movie?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: Is in it like the OJ thing? Or is this
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: like the craziest fucking story you've ever heard ever? We
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: got John Malkovich, we got Tom Cruise stuff, we got
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: all these weird numbers, satanic ritual abuse, Hall and Oates. Okay,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Minudo like what.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: What is this? And Menudo is was the beginning of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the boy bands and that whole thing, the Backstreet Boys
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: and the inn SYNC and then the you know, the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse Club and all them like being members of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: the n SYNC and.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: We can all thank jose Menindez for that.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Oh so maybe him getting shot in the face with
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: a shotgun is his his uh come upance is natural? Yeah,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: that's what you get, Ye're right? Yeah?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: And the mom too. I mean, so, what what are
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on all of this? Like I I've given
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: you a lot of information, probably more than you were
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: even expecting.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: But oh oh yeah.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Another thing that adds to this is it is it
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: a Hollywood production? Is this all fake or whatever? They
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: were supposedly big Milli Vanilli fans, and it's like those
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: two assholes were fake brothers or some shit like that.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Weren't they here? Like fake?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: They were? They were singing their lip syncing right.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two dudes, you know, they were total phonies live.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: They got caught lip syncing live and then they like
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: lost their whole career after that.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Everybody stopped, right, Yes, So my husband said, that's just
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: the perfect ending to this Hollywood movie. Is the brothers
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: are Milli Vanilli fans. It's like it's in your face.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Was totally the fakest of the fake, the fakeust of
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: the fake. Yeah.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: And I recently did an episode with JJ Vance It's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: called Scott Peterson Did Not Do It and we talk
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: about how he was set up and how he was
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: he and Lacy were part of a Satanic cult. Now,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: his lawyer, his defense lawyer, his name is Mark Gergos.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: This is another guy that gets called in when a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: setup is due, right, he got fucking screwed. Guess who's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: representing the Menendez brothers twenty twenty five, Mark fucking Gergoes.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: This guy gets called in when it's set up time,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: just like Robert Shapiro. And so it's like for me,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: I get where. You know, my husband's saying, this could
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: be just a big Hollywood movie. But in my opinion,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: I feel like if you strolled up to the San
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: Diego County Prison or whatever in as to see one
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: of these two yahoos, they would be sitting right there
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: serving life without parole. And it's probably one of the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: saddest stories I've ever heard.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that that they got
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: a bad deal. I mean, they should have thought of
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: a different way to get out of there get their revenge.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean in the crime of passion,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think like that. Like I'm not in a
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: situation where I am so rage filled that I would
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: shoot my parents in the face, you know, So I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: don't know how to think, like I wouldn't be able to.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: But they you know, they didn't deny that they did it,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: and they did at first, they did it first, right,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: that's how they spent all that money.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they said, oh, the mafia probably did it because
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: our dad was involved in some weird business dealings and whatever.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: My thing is, if you rape my ass, I now
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: have the right to shoot you in the face. Yeah,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: body for body.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Or or your front hole.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Anything you rape me, I can kill you. Now. That's
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: I feel an equal trade off for me. You help
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: me get raped, I also can then shoot you or
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: burn you alive. Yeah. Right. And you know there's a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: scene and I included this in my series about the
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: Meninda's brothers. Have you watched True Detective the first season
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: with McConaughey. Yeah, So he's describing this thing like if
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: you're caught by the cartel, like what they would do
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: to you, and they like strap you to the floor
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: and they cut your balls off and they make you
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: watch and they shove them down your throat and make
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: you bleed out. If I were to ever find out
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: a motherfucker touched my son, even a fraction of what
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: happened to the Menindez brothers, it would be like law
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: abiding citizens slash True Detective up in this bitch, I
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: would be strapping some motherfuckers down. There would be some
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: torture sessions. There would be some fucking flight at fucking eyelids,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: there would be some fuck like have you.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Ever seen Antichrist? No, Willem Dafoe, Is there some.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Torture scenes in there? Maybe I can get some inspiration
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: if a motherfucker was to ever to try some shit
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: like that on my son.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: It was it wasn't like that. I mean, it was
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: like they the mother and Willie Dafoe was dad, and
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: then his wife they were they were fornicating. They're busy
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: in the bedroom and the baby like falls out a window.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Oh so like the mom like blames him and whatever.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: In the end, she like straps him down to a
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: wooden table chains and like starts doing and I'm like, oh, click,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: I can't finish this.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But That's what.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, though, is like they, in my opinion, is
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: like they didn't even do enough. I would have done
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: more if I was getting if I was raped in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: the ass by my dad from age six to eighteen,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: I would have done more than just shoot him in
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: the face. I would have wanted to draw it out
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: and make it as torturous as what he did to me.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's just the feminine fury within me that I'd
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: want to drag it out. But they you know, if
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: it was just for money, why didn't it was like
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: quick and dirty. They they would have just went in
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: shot him once, Okay, they're dead now, and just been
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: done with it. But it was like multiple, multiple, ten
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: times shot in the face. Okay, that is you know,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: I said it before it goes deeper and darker than
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: I just want money.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: And if they weren't so mad and passionate about it,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: then they would have a better plan of making it
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: look like someone else did it. And you know, like
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: that whole situation like that they were just kids acting out,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: you know, and they're like wanted justice and what are
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: you going to do? And he's connected, like he's almost
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: a politician, Like I, what do you do? I wonder
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: what he was really into, you know, like what evidence
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: like we could find or dig up about what he
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: was really doing. I wonder what kind of P Diddy
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: tapes there are with that guy, you know.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And there are two things that I'll mention just
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: to clear the air in case somebody wants to comment
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: some weird shit on this wileman Indez was recorded. He
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: had like a pen pal and he would call her
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: and you know, they would talk about the trial and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: stuff because he didn't really have any outlet, and he
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: had some weird.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Little They record these calls, right, He's right, yeah, go ahead.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: So he had some little pin pal, her name was
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: Norma or something, and he'd call and talk to her.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: And he's been recorded from prison saying like, oh, I
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: think we're gonna win the case. I've been practicing crying.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: He said that. Oh, he asked some people to lie
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: for him and say that they knew he was getting
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: molested when they didn't know. Here's my point of contention
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: with those two pieces of evidence and why it doesn't
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: bother me that much. Lyle said he was raped from
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: the ages of six to eight before his dad started
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: raping Eric Lyle has is now almost thirty years old
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: and has probably disconnected from those emotions. He's probably blocked
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: that shit out. He has probably tried everything in his
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: power to forget it ever happened. He has probably disassociated
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: from the fact that he was raped by his dad
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: from six to eight. I'm sorry, Oh no, I was
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: just gonna say he may have to practice crying, Okay,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: he may have to struggle with getting back in touch
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: with those feelings.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: His mom put soap in his eyes every time to
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: cry it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is the thing Sean is like,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: is it really outside the realm of possibility that he
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: is so far disassociated from this that getting back in
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: touch with those feelings of being six to eight and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: getting raped by his dad may be hard for him.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe because his life is on the line with the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: gas chamber. He's practicing crying. You might want to be
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: able to connect with the jury. You might want to
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: be able to convey some fucking heavy emotions. So that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: doesn't bother me that much.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wonder what there was more context around that too,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: like if she was leading him.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: I think she was because she wrote a book about
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: him afterwards, trying to make him out to be an
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: asshole and then of course profit off of it, right
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: because of the sensational sensationalization of the case, and then
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: the part where he asked people to lie about knowing
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: he was getting molested. No, no, they the brothers didn't
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: even know that they were getting that both of them
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: were getting molested until like a couple months before they
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: did the deed. Okay, they didn't, right, but like they
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: weren't going out with their friends on a Saturday. Hey,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: did you know my dad rapes me? Like again, his
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: life is on the line for the gas chamber, he
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: may be considering asking people to make up some shit.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: People do weird stuff when their life is on the
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: line for the gas chamber. Okay, he's not a saint.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: He is a spoiled rich boy, but that doesn't mean
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: at thed You're right, he two things can exist at
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: the same time. He's a spoiled rich boy, he makes
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: bad decisions, obviously, and he's panicking because he's he's on
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: the line for the death penalty. So yeah, maybe he
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: asked some people to consider making up some shit so
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: he had a stronger case. Maybe he did have to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: practice crying. I don't fucking know what it would be
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: like to disassociate from a memory like that. It'd probably
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: be kind of hard to get back in touch with
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: those feelings, if you'd even want to. So those two
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: things don't bother me, but they get brought up a
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: lot because they want you to think he was a scumbag.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: Maybe he was didn't mean that he wasn't getting raped though, right,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: because you can be a scumbag and still get raped.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: It's like, you don't have to be, you know, a
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: perfect person for this to happen to you. You can
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: still be a little spoiled rich boy and kind of
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: be a scumbag. Let's just say he was I don't know,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know him, but that doesn't mean he wasn't
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: being abused, right, Yeah, So that's that's what I have
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: to say about those two things that people bring up.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: It's like always the shopping spree, the lyle practicing, crying,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: and that he was asking people to lie for him.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Those are the three things that people have the biggest
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: problems with.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: And but then the pictures of the boys, gentitles or whatever,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: and like the all the other stuff that they had about,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: you know, proof of the abuse that they don't want
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: to look at. That that doesn't exist, right, you know.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: It's it's like what they say, if you do five
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: nice things for someone in one mean thing, all they
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: think about is the mean thing, even though you did
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 4: five fucking nice things for him. That's this case. It's
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: like they they have been raped in their b hole
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: hundreds of times. But they want to focus on what
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: sean the two or three small little fucking things that like, oh,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: well look at this. It's like, who cares, they're focusing
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: on the wrong part.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting how they like, I wonder, like, I mean, well,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: SNL was part of the painting of how the public
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: should look at it. The news was painting how people
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: should look at it. The you know, the New DA
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: or whatever. The guy that was trying to get LARTI
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: was right, Yeah, he probably had some influence on the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: way things went with the public roll out. You know,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting, and it's almost like Hollywood was performing
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: in a they're one of their magic tricks, like hey,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: look everybody, look how we can turn this around. And
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: The way that this story ends in real life and
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: in the show, this is really how it ends. The
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: district attorney not only succeeded in railroading their trial and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: got them life without parole, he went one step further,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: which is he separated the brothers, sent them to two
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: separate prisons, and until the show Monsters on Netflix came out,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: they spent twenty years apart from each other. No hugs,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: no contact, no FaceTime, nothing, twenty years separated. They just
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: got moved to the same prison. It's like they can't
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: stop torturing him.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we would be.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: It's like, was it really that bad? It's one straw
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: too many to just let them stay together in prison. No,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: they got to separate them.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, the pedocracy is still in full power. I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: mean they're not kind of.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: They're they're showing. That's why I say they make an
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: example of the boys, because it's like, not only do
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: you get life, you'll never see your brother again.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: And you bleed and you cry and you know, you know,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's really sick that I mean, and the dad
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: is like, it's notable. I'm going to do this to you.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put pins in you and what the fuck? Duree.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: The saddest part is like from prison, Lyle and Eric
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: have both started all these programs, Like they started this
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: program where they bring dogs to the jail and help
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 4: train them for like severely handicapped people, And they started
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: programs where prisoners get to have access to like painting
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: and drawing and stuff like that. And it's like even
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: from prison, they're like not bad guys. They're like, you
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, it's just it breaks my heart
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: that this is their life, this is what this is
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: what the pediphocracy has to offer us.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's funny. The hammer of justice it's weelded.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I mean, in one instance, it's,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, they saved what I mean, It's hard for
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: me to even imagine that I'm saving anybody. But you know,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: they clean up some mess and they like find dig
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: down and find out who done it. But then in
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: this other realm, yeah right, sometimes exactly. But over here
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: it's like it was on purpose and it was a
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: total debacle and it was like a big scandal, and
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: it turned into a media sensation and you know, just
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: like what with the mass murderers out there, like it
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: creates this feeling in everybody, and it like it dominates
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: the media, you know. And I think they were just
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: getting used to I mean, they were in the Clinton
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: years and everything was good or whatever. You know, they
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: had to like make something scary, you know that they
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: they uh and then that Michael Lewinsky should I wonder
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: when what year that was, like ninety six or something,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I forget.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: Probably around I mean, what a time to be alive. Right.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: I was born in ninety four, so I don't remember
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: any of this shit. But I mean, everyone, you know,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: a time to be alive because you got, like you said,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: the Clinton stuff, the oj stuff, the Menindez stuff, Havana, Metallica.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: I mean it's all you know, desert storm, desert Shield,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: desert storm like that, but that was the Bush Ears.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like, yeah, Metallica was fun, like.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: One of the best decades to grow up. And I'm
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: just it was fun.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: It's for sure. It was fun. And then you know,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and then nine to eleven happened, and then all of
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: a sudden it was different.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, we had the influx of like
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: the boy bands and shipped into like the early two
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: thousands thanks to jose Menindez you know yeah, Backstreet Boys
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: and in sync and fucking you know.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Right, and then that went into like Britney Spears and
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: then you know that that whole thing too. And then
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: who was it the the chick that looked that looked
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: like marily Monroe with the big fake boobs, that married
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: the ninety year old guy like uh oh he was
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: she had a TV show, She had a TV show,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: like the fuck she was? Oh, man and then Nicole Smith, Yes, right,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: so like she there's video of her like being a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: six year old little girl, like with clown makeup on,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: but she's an adult woman. But she's like in the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: altar of the Little You a Little and so like
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: all of that was being like unveiled. Also like at
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: those times, like we and then the reality TV was happening,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: you know, an Nicole Smith had her own show. So
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: it was weird being alive at that time.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you if you take into consideration, let's
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: just think about this for a second. They murdered their
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: parents in eighty nine. They weren't convicted until ninety six.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: Before eighty nine, there were no public affairs known like
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: there are now. Like if somebody came out and said, oh,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: this Spielberg is raping, nobody was saying that. Nobody was
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: saying that the Menindez brothers were literally the first of
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: their kind, because if it happened today, we would all say, oh,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: well that makes sense. Look at all these kids that's
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: been raped by Nickelodeon and Disney and right, you know,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: we'd be like, oh, well, that's that definitely makes sense.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: All these fucking assholes are getting raped all the time,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: but because they were the first of their kind to
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: actually come out with this stuff, they were ridiculed.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Right because it's so bad. It's like just like the SRA.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they dress up in robes and
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: they they bury you in a coffin with scorpions, like
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: what the you know, it's gotta be some crazy imagination.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: Thing like with the eh who does that, you know,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: lighting candles around his bed and sticking him with pins
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: and needles and cutting him with a knife and tying
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: his stick up with rope, giving him herpies that his
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: mom fucking popped the blisters. I mean, it's like, to
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: hear this, it sounds like a horror movie. And nobody
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: was talking about this shit in eighty nine. It was
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: just like recently that we found out about the Nickelodeon
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: shit and the Epstein shit and the Ditty shit and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: the if the Menindez brothers shot their parents tomorrow, I
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: think they'd get off on manslaughter, some shit self defense.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Probably the whole the news would be about how the
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: parents are bad.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, right, And I'm saying that as a credit to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: where we are now. I'm glad stuff like this is
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: more easily digestible, and that more people know about it.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think they realize the extent or how deep
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: it goes. Like people know surface level stuff about Epstein,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: but they don't know all of it. It's like, oh,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: he had some sixteen year olds rub his peepe No
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: that it goes beyond yeah, you know, it's it's like
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: it goes beyond some sixteen year olds rubbing his peep.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, But I mean what he was convicted of was
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: soliciting sex from a minor. That's what I'm saying is
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: legally possible. Miners can't consent, So how do you solicit
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: sex from the league? I mean, they let him out
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: of jail.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: This is this is what I'm saying. People know surface level.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful for what they know because it's at least
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: entering into like.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: It's slowly getting there.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, I'll be grateful for that. But if
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: you if you saw them an Indez story tomorrow, what
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: would you think about it?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Like if I if I had heard what you told
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: me today, I would be like, oh, that's more of
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: the dark occult. What they do, you know, creating the
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: illusion to cover up the really bad ship that actually
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: does happen, Like, yeah, you've seen it so many times
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: and it's like the same every time. And the fact
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: that they used pron Malgovich dude to be the guy.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know about that shit. You blew my
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: mind with that.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. You got to hear that episode of
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: The White Shut. We talked about a White Shut and
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: how she like she Carrie is a victim of SRA
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: and she was trafficked by the cult and she has
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: very similar, almost exact situation as all the women that
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: you know, my whole thesis of Like Alice was an
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: SRA you know, trump based mind control and they, you know, Helena,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: same thing, like she was basically the whole episode. It's like, yeah,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: you're right, and I'll tell you why, and she explains
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: it's so interestingly amazing. You got to hear it. I'm sorry,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: but this is a show about you. We're not talking
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: about no.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: I mean it plays a part in it because it's
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: it's the dynamic right of of Alice preparing Helena for
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: the cult. I think the Menendez fucking family it's the
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: same story, right, yeah, and if.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: Not there if not, they're part of the main ship.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: It seems like they're on the periphery because like with
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: you know, with the situation, like like if they these
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: kids have to get raped like all the time, it's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: because they're always getting like more training, more programming, more
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: or shit. They you know, they don't let up. They're
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: freaking you know, like if you look at the occult holidays,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: it's like every weekend, it's like some fucking crazy shit,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: and so like they have to have a bunch of
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: pedophile rapists just around ready to go, Like I mean,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: that's why Disneyland is such a thing and why they
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: got so many pedos there, because they gotta, like they
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: gotta have the kid be raped before they get the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: programming from the military, programming that they're going to install
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: on their fucking MK ultra shit.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: So like there's just so many pedos and it's just
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: so much like you know, and the dads are raping
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: the kids and like yeah, it's just and they're getting promoted,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: and so you think there's gotta be a lot of fallout,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: like the fucking the shit, the the negative stuff that
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: arises from all of that use and maybe, uh, you know,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Dad Menendez was like, you know, I don't know, maybe
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: they were like they they abused him to get into
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: the place where he's at and the kids where and
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: then he was just abusing his kids for fun because
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: his his brain is so messed up, you know, like
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Albert Fish or what. I was sweating the why I
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: brought him up, Like because I just fucking learned about
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: this dude. You like had to watch kids get abused
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: like with a belt and like get whipped and shit,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: and it like crossed and then he just like got
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: all hot and sexy over that, like the you know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: like a freaking like like Marquis de Sade, you know
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like like they have some kind of
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: weird ship where like all of a sudden pain is
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: where it's at. Yeah, let least make pain happen.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: It's really sick and weird. But they're just they're just
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: crazy now. The brain fucked and they you know, they
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: have this weird compulsion that tie of fucking genitals with
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: rope and stick them with pins. Like what the fuck?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Where'd you get that idea from? Well?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: And he had started preparing them by watching snuff films.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Right, And how do you get a snuff film.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: That's what I said, That's what I said in my episode.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, where is he getting this ship from?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: You got to go to the cult for that. Okay.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: So the people that do the ship to the s
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: r A Children, they record that and they sell it
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: on the black market and somehow it ends up at
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: this you know born Colombian guy right right?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: And the thing too for me is like.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: Whoever can watch that and still get hard is psycho?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: Go ahead?
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you don't need to be right, I mean,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's part of the training. Yeah, it's part
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: of the training. Right. And this all happened in Los Angeles,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: And what I will say is this is just this
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: is just a normal Let me tell you, the boys
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: after they shot their parents, buried their shotguns and their
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: their bloody clothes on Maholland Drive adjacent the Laurel Canyon.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: It just got me thinking like, because John Phillips from
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 4: the Mamas and the Papas Laurel Canyon, he raped his
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: daughter for what ten years in sestuous relationship.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, she wrote a book and she talked about Phillips.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I was just thinking like, yeah,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: it's a stretch that I connected those two things. But
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: it's la Right's Laurel. It's like rich people find time
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: rape your kids.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Right, it's rich. What a circus, dude, Yeah really, But
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you got the corrupt cops
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: in la and you got the you know, the Hollywood
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: and that whole ship, like what they do and the
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: you know, prostitution and blackmail is their business, like, and
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: then you got to have weirdos around that.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: Do that, you know, I mean it's death and destruction
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 4: is their business.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Well that's true, it is a death cult. But yeah,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: so they don't blink an I when one of their
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: people get freaking murdered in the face by a shotgun,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Like that's just business. Really. I mean the fact that
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: they took it and used it to be a spectacle
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: and they put pron Malcovich on there to freaking cry
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: on camera and make fun of the crying like like, oh,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: you're not supposed to cry when you're getting raped on
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: like by your dad, right, And to know that Pran
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Malgovich will rape a small child to death.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: This supposedly in my opinion, like his name is prawn anyway.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: That's the thing though, is like, the more stories like
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: that I hear it just it just confirms, right that
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: this is all real, this stuff really happens, and this
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: is like it makes you not want it makes you
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: disrespect every movie you've ever watched, you know what I mean.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: It's like I can't watch John Algavich in a movie now,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean pron or whatever you call him. Well, I
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: can't like Tom Cruise too. It's just like what but
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: he's a joker, he is.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: And the thing about Prawn Malkovich is me and my
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: husband take turns picking movies, like he'll pick one, then
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: I'll pick one, and he'll pick one, then I'll pick one.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: He his pick was being John Malkovich, and we talked
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: about it before and after the movie, and we were
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: the first time I ever saw writer. Yeah, it's like,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: and now I.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Discrete Charlie Coff the movie, right, I would too, I do.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: I can't watch it, you know. Yeah, it's really.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: It's almost it's almost like the things you want to
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: enjoy the most are the things that are the most
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: detrimental to you. At the end of that movie, he's
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: looking through the eyes of the child.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has to suffer what the child is gidding
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: and it's a little girl too, like so it's like, you.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: Know what, what does that mean now that we know
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: what we know?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: And to control another's will mm hmm is like total magic,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Like that's what And with all those old people in
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: John Malcavic's head, like hmm, it's really weird is that
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: the ancestors that have been like abusing you know, like
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: you know, is it the splits of the per I mean,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: who knows? But John Malgovich is not. Uh, I don't know,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: but I yeah, like I can't really say. But it's
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: like like I drive from Euclid, Like I drive from
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: like Euclid into Cleveland and there's this huge billboard of
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Fupo Wimfrey and she it says like be somebody like
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: make a difference in people's lives, be like an empowering
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. I have to see it every day.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and uh, it's like they're in it, you
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: And you know, the thing too is like in the
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: show Monsters on Netflix, this is the dramatization of the
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: Menindoz Brothers. There is a scene where Wile finds out
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: that they were a part of they were like a
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: skit on Saturday Night Live, and he's telling his brother like,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: oh my god, can you believe John Malkovich played me?
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: And it's like they even had to include it in
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: the dramatization, like it's it's like integral to the story
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: that this is.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow Yeah.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: And then and then he's like, well, I guess if
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: they make a movie about us, maybe Rob Low can
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: play Eric like they're they're having this, you know, and.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: Pervert, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, dude. And then yeah,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: that Wayne's World. He was a fucking weird on that movie.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: And then you know, and then what's his name from
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Wayne's World? Was the guy at the p Diddy party
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: and he was hosting the Skill Life. Yeah, Mike Myers
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, that's.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: Dude. It's all connected though.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: That's that's weird. I wonder if Dana Carvey would talk
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: about it on his podcast, like like if somebody asked him, like,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: tell me about your buddy going to Pete Diddy party anyway?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, so this was actually a two
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: part uh kind of like little show that I did
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: on on my podcast, Mendez Brothers Part one and two
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: for anybody who wants to go check that out. And
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: I actually go through like two hours worth of the
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: trial footage, and I talk about real sour areas of
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: testimony that I feel like once you hear, once you
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: see them and you hear it for yourself, and you
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: know what we know. It's like there was so many
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: clues that this was bigger and this was darker than
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: anybody could ever imagined. It's more than just they killed
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: their parents, so.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: You know indeed, yeah, like for real, yeah it is.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: There is a lot to look at. And it's not
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: just the floor of their house, you know what I mean,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: it's it's the dad, it's the mom. And like why
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: was this all being covered up and normalized and what
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: you know? And there is evidence that that is true,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: like it has been happening, and why was it covered
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: up in the second trial? Like there's a lot going
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: on here, and I'm glad that you brought that to
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: our attention today.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, I've been listening to some
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: Millie Vanilli since I watched that show. I'm about to
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: drive my husband crazy. It was like I didn't realize,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: like I get it now why people actually liked them
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: so much if.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: They jump around and warn me on tights.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: I was like, it's pretty catchy. But this morning, Uh,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: we were just laying in bed and he was like,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: you should be a pin pal for the menindas brothers
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: and tell him how you feel. I was like, I
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: don't think you can just write to but anyways, probably
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: I would love for them to listen to this episode
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: or even the show that I did, because it's like,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: there are people out there that see you. There are
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: people out there that know you're that your story is
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: not told.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they would hear the SRA stuff
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: and think think again to their own and be like
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: wow and like maybe think and find more and be
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: able to like I wonder if somebody could interview them
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: like that, actually would suspect that there is more of
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: a like a cult cult, you know, yeah, to the
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: dad and then where he came from and what.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: And that's that's the sad thing is like I don't
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: even think they maybe they do, I don't even think
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: they realize what was really going on exactly.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, he could just be a crazy guy. Oh
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: it's just crazy whatever. But he was saying that his
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: dad did to him right, what did his dad do?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: You know, what was that all about? How did he
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: get promoted?
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: And what? Why is he coming from Cuban royalty? And
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: why is you know what what's going on with this stuff?
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, if you're and you brought up a
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: freaking Cuban royalty is the guy the Canada guy freaking
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, no, I thought that I was confused.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that's dating Katie Perry, not the guy
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: from the other not the guy from California. I'm sorry,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: but he is royalty from Cuba because he's Castro's kid.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: He's Castro's kid, all right, I got confused with the other.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: But think about that. Think about that, right, another Cuban connection, right.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: And that and then that dude was able to do
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: sex parties with the wife of the Prime Minister of
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: France or some shit, right if that's who it was
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever and so and all those politicians are like
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: wife swapping and like raving each other's kids and shit like.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: You know, this is why I have no faith that
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: the Menindez brothers will ever get out. Okay, these are
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: the people in charge of their release. Okay, they're all
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: in on it. They're all doing this shit to their kids.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: They're all and it's like, oh really, Lucas though, he
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: gets out right, Oh.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: Sure, because because I think it falls the form of
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: the true detective. I think fucking Henry Lee Lucas is
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: like Bush's third retarded cousin or some shit like that,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: like how he gets the skirt right because.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Bush works for Harriman, and Harriman is like one of
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: the families, you know, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right, right, Yeah.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: Henry Lee Lucas is part of the fucking family, right,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: He's the retarded cousin that gets the fucking.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: You ol guy. Right.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: He got exonerated, so they're still looking out for the
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: asshole exactly. But the Menindez brothers are serving life without pearl.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: So this is the problem is Henry Le Lucas said,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: I've killed two hundred and fifty people. I ripped their
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 4: titties off, I fucking knifeed them, slashed them, strangled them,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 4: drowned them. However, you can kill a person, I've done it.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: He gets exonerated, but the fucking Menendez brothers are separate
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 4: aided sent to separate prisons in serving life without pearl.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: This is my I'm surprised they didn't try harder to
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: give him the gas chamber, other than the fact that
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: they wanted him to suffer longer.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't bode well for our side. That's not cult.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: It sounds like we're losing.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: I know, maybe google it. I'll google it, and I'll
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: see if I can write them a letter or something.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: Because you can't. I'll bet you can't because and who knows.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: If they'd even open it or read it, because I'm
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: sure they get a lot of after.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: The prison would open it and read it.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: Oh do they filter that ship.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Every letter that goes into a prison is open and read.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: So what if it's sexy talk, that's so amazing it's allowed.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: That's you know. When I was in jail, there was
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: like one guy showed me like his his girl, like
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: she like painted up her labio with lipstick and then
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: put it on the edge of the tub and like
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: rolled on it like paper and the like set the paper.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: So that gets through.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: God, that is creative, very yeah, yeah, but creativity yeah yeah.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: She was a sweetheart. But anyway, like but that ship,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: it all gets through. I mean, as long as it
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't like you know this is a crime, or like
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: you know, telling gang members what to do and like
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: that type of you know, they filter everything. It all goes,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: you know, all the phone calls, all the letters, but
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: you I mean just talking and sending words on paper,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: you could, they'd let that through. I'm sure, Like it's fine.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: Well, it's funny to me because while the OJ trial
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: was going on, OJ had the if the glove doesn't fit,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: you must have quit. Yeah that yeah, And so the
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: Menindas Brothers came up with their own slogan, but they
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 4: weren't allowed to use it. And I actually think it's
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: genius and I think I might title this episode their slogan,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: which was if you've been accused, If you've been abused,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 4: you cannot be accused. They should have put that ship
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: on T shirts. They should have been fucking screaming that
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 4: ship from the rooftops because it's so true. If you've
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: been abused, you cannot be accused.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because natural law, right, I mean, if you if
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: someone hits you, it's your right to hit them back.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, and yes, you know you violate my body, I
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: violate yours. You penetrate my body. I'm gonna penetrate yours.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: Uh hella, bullets, bullets, that's fair game, that is fair game.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: I absolutely think that they acted in self defense.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's uh, it goes to show
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: like why they wouldn't just leave, you know, the Stockholms,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: even the young one, like well there's yeah. And but
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: the fact that if they stayed then they could get
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: their revenge. You know, that's another reason.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 4: I'm a revenge kind of a gal. Okay, you know,
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 4: I just I'm too petty for that shit. I if
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 4: you raped me from age six to eighteen, Stockholms are
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: not you snap eventually, right, Okay, you can't take it anymore, right,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: and you.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Wait for the moment when you can, you know, exact
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: your revenge. Yeah, exactly. And that both of them were
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: in front of the TV or some shit like that's
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I guess that I'm not going
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: to condone it. I think that they could have done
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: a different thing.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, murders shouldn't be your first. Okay, maybe they.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: Could like start a scandal, I don't know, like have
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: some other way again at them, Like so.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 4: They they claim that, you know, they they were not
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 4: allowed like they didn't have any other options that they
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: were scared for their lives because jose would say, if
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: you ever tell anyone, I'll kill you if you ever
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: And he had, he had made attempts on their life before.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: He had like held them under the water in the pool,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 4: he had you know, cut them, he had put knives
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 4: to their throats. So it's like they acted out of fear.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: They acted out of yeah, you know, desperation. I would say,
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, murder may not be shouldn't maybe
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: be your first go to escape plan, but I under
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: fucking stand it, so do I. I mean, I'd poison
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 4: them though, if I, like.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: If I was like the victim of somebody like Proan Malgavich,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: I would definitely shot them in the face with a shotgun.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you survive something like that, Heather or roar, whatever, okay,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 4: and you're ready to exact your revenge, your rightful revenge,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: just hope it's not somebody like me, because I will
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 4: draw it out. I will make it fucking slow. You'll
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 4: be begging for death. It will not be a shot
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 4: to the face. It will be fucking hours and hours.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 4: I'll get whatever that drug is that keeps your heart pumping,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 4: and I will make sure that you don't fucking die
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: and you feel every I mean, that's if it happened
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: to me, if it happened to my son. Yeah, the
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: mom in this situation, I cannot fucking believe it. Sean.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's obvious that she has some abuse to like
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: there's something that fucked her brain to make her do that.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: But doesn't it remind you of past did job and anything?
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: It does? Yeah, and she obviously was abused like.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 4: The way like she Yeah, it's the eyes white Jet story, right, Okay,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 4: they prepare their children to become part of the fucking machine.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: If she didn't allow it, then she wouldn't be still there.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: The wife she would have been, you know, gotten rid
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: of somehow, and they would he would have found a
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: different mother for that, like she, I mean, she was
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: chosen because of that. I'm sure like they he impregnated
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: her because she's the perfect.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: And if you like talking to Carrie, our good friend,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: I just talked with her yesterday last night, and you know,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: got another show coming soon. Her dad and mom situation,
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Like her mom was very submissive and dissociative, and her
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: dad chose her for that obviously, you know. So like
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: when she was being abused and they had and snuff
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: films were on the TV while he was raping his daughter,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: like he was part of the cult, you know, he
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: was part of the military portion of that, and he
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: was able to get the snuff films, you know, and
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: then he was selling his daughter into that to get promoted,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and she was used for the blackmail. And
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: it's all just one.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 4: Because it's true. It's like an honor for them to
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 4: sacrifice their children over into this thing. Okay, it's like
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: a it's like you're special because you get to be
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 4: a part of this thing, right, And so that's the
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 4: way that they look at it. And whether it's the
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 4: Meninda's brothers or John Bennet or like I'm just starting
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 4: to feel, or Heather or Rourke, any of these cases,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 4: it's it's like, how many times do we have to
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 4: see stuff like this before we understand that it's operating
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: on a much larger scale that these assholes know about
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 4: each other each other, right, you know, it's like they
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 4: are part of a fucking network ac cult, you know, right, right,
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 4: And I who's to say that the Menindez brothers didn't
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 4: grow up and do that to their kids and perpetuate
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: the cycle. Okay, who's to say they wouldn't.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean yeah, if they didn't lash out
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: at that, you know, maybe they would have if they
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: kept it inside. Who knows how their how their brain. Uh.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: Seems as though they weren't. They didn't have the organized
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: abuse that that like other cult members get. It seemed
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: like it was just the random what comes from natural uh,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: incest abuse. Like it's not like they were brought and
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: brought given programming and turned into you know, delta slaves
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff. It seems like maybe that was I don't
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: know like what what dad was involved in or what
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: was involved in, but I would like to know more
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: about that line of and you know my family.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: It functions on different levels, almost like a pyramid, and
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: you get to the top and it's like the elite fox, right,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 4: But on the bottom of the pyramid, it's like daycare workers, teachers,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: random old ladies that live in your neighborhood. There was
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 4: this is the last This is what I'll leave you with.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: There was a true crime case that people followed from
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: the fifties I think it was. It was called the
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 4: boy in the box. Have you ever heard of it?
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: No, I know about the girl in the seventies that
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: was kidnapped and her head was kept in a box.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 4: Right, So it's like years they couldn't identify this boy.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 4: They found a dead boy naked in a box on
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 4: the side of the road, and since the fifties, they
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: just identified who this boy was in like twenty twenty
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 4: one through like ancestry, DNA or some shit like that
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: to find the identity of this boy. And it turns
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 4: out somebody had come forward after they found this boy
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 4: and said, my mom kept him in the basement. She
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: raped him all the time. She would have people from
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: the neighborhood come over and rape him. She sold his body,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 4: she did what blah blah blah. They did nothing with
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 4: the information. Okay, they did zero with the information. He
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 4: remained a nameless, faceless, little naked, abused boy in a
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 4: box for like fifty years or some shit like that.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 4: And they just now found out his identity. And they
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 4: went and talked to who they thought was his parents,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 4: and she said, well, I was like an unwed mother
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: at the time, and it was really looked down on,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 4: and I kind of just like sold him to this
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 4: lady who said that she would take care of him
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 4: and like she couldn't have kids and she wanted to
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 4: you know whatever. It was like one of those quick
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 4: and dirty like kid pass offs, and she left him
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 4: in the basement and let the neighborhood come and rape
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 4: on him.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I'm sure.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 4: It's not even like it's an elite problem. It's like
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: people that live on your fucking block are doing this shit.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 4: It's a global problem.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that I Actually I saw a documentary about
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: mothers who sell their kids, you know, into into the situation.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: You know, they instead of abortion, they just sell them
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: after they're born. They'll get a buyer before they even
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: give birth. And it's not you know, it's a black market.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: And they imagine that it goes to a home, you know,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: people that love them and ship, but turns out it's
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: all just sex trade and organs organ harvesting.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 4: Have you seen these baby drop off boxes, like a
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 4: fucking like fucking drop box for babies?
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 6: No?
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, I guess you know, if you if you
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 4: give birth in your crackhead or some shit like that,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 4: instead of flushing them, you are leaving them in a dumpster.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 4: You can now use the baby drop box and who
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 4: the fuck knows who's in control of that m That's
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 4: like that's like prime for them. It's like, oh my god,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 4: we can do this baby drop box. Now we don't
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 4: even have to search the dumpsters for them. We can
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 4: just get them out of the baby drop Boxox.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: It's like like the Red Box d.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 4: Blockbuster. It's baby Buster. Just slip the baby in the
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 4: box and just hope that something.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, you you know you used to have
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: orphan that were run by the cult. You know. Now
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: they got this baby box.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: Baby box, baby Buster. That's just I mean, they're even
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 4: making it easier. It's like, oh, we used to have
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: to go to like the you know, crack alley and
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 4: you know, pay some crackhead. No, they don't even have
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 4: to do that anymore. Just drop your baby in the
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 4: drop box.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: And yeah, but they still probably do so to the
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: crackhead because they can get money at the you know,
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: because yeah, man, baby box. It's really it's really what
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: a black pill man. So like, I'm glad that and
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: you just your brand new mom you got like you
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: got yours right there, you're swaddled and you're talking about
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: baby box. That's great. You gotta you got a special
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: kind of mind, Julia. I'm glad that to share. Thank you.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 4: I Mean, the thing is, like I've said it before,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 4: but you want people like me having babies in twenty
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 4: twenty five because this needs to be this needs to
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 4: be normal. Like I shouldn't have to explain to people
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 4: about SRA about you know, the Satanic ritual abuse aspect
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 4: is one thing, but it's like I shouldn't have to
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 4: explain to people about elites raping kids and baby boxes
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 4: and black markets, and it's like, right, we need to
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 4: train our children that this is the world we live in, right, okay,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 4: because oblivion is what gets kids fucking abducted and raped
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 4: and sold into fucking cults and shit like that. The
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: presidios and all the mc martins is oblivion. If you
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 4: can make other people aware and your children aware that
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 4: this is the world we live in, I'm not saying
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: talk to them about SRA, but it's like, you should
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: really consider homeschool. You should really consider like people who
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: are just dropping their kids off at daycares. Hello, you
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 4: need to read the pedaphocracy. This should be normal, mainstream
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 4: stuff that people are aware of the next generation. Yeah,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 4: should be aware of.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: This, but right if we just open our eyes and
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: look at the news that we see, you know, like
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: the Menendez Brothers is one example. Like I was like,
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: I've got this like guilty pleasure. I'm watching lawn crime
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: on YouTube and there's all this like, oh man, really
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: nasty shit. But you know, there's one guy who was
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: like pulled over in Vegas and he's like, yeah, I
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: shot my parents and he's like talking about it, like
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: straight out, and he's like, yeah, my dad he works
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: for the un They abused me, rape me as a kid.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: Like he's just he's, you know, same thing. It's like
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: the Menendez thing, you know. And I'm listening, I'm like,
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's he's one of them. He's like generational abuse,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and he couldn't take it anymore. And he,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and his mind like the it starts to
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: get the programming starts to fall loose about thirty years old,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: you know, and they start to remember shit. And he's
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, recovering his memories and you know,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: matter of fact, like he just you know, he just
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: got pulled over for like a traffic thing, and he
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: just tells the cop like, yeah, I just killed my
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: parents and he's like what huh. And he's like calls
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: the cops from the other state where he's from, and
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, get him, like lock him off. And
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: he did that and he didn't fight the cops. It
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: was really but you see, like it's shit. There's evidence
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere, and if you don't know what it is,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: you just think, oh wow, that's crazy. But really, if
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: you if you look and you investigate a little further,
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: just scratch the surface a little bit, say, oh okay,
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: and if you understand what happens to the brain, you
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: know why you know why this ship why it goes
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: nuts to thirty years old or whatever, and why would
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: they do these things? And you know why is it
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: the same sadistic abuse and why you know what, why
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: do they perpetuated why is it doing again the next generation?
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: Like if you understand that ship, then it's like oh yeah,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: oh Hollywood, oh okay, you know and you like you
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: brought up like John Malcovich, Oh yeah, John, you know,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: like because I know these things already and like it
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: makes sense to me, and so I'm glad that you
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: can help our listeners to know these things already, because yeah,
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: and I.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 4: Think it's it's a cool story that everybody knows about.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not a cool story story.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 4: Like I don't have to I don't, like most people
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 4: know about the Meninda's brothers, and so.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: You know they most of them don't look as much
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: as you did, you know, and they you know, they're
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: not going to pull out those things that you did.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: Uh has to like look at this though, you know.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 4: For those who have iyes to see, I will tell
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 4: you because it's like when for me, when I look
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 4: into certain things, I'll be like, all right, let's just look.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 4: And it's like Dad's a music moguls signed for Hall
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 4: of Otes and has been compared to Spielberg. Okay, so
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 4: he's raping his kids. Okay, I don't need to know
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 4: anything else, Like, but you.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: Continue to investigate. It's not like chalk it all right,
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: all I need to know you did you found the proof?
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: Like that's you know, and then likes just showing us that,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: like the snl Skit was like that was proof to me,
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: Like oh my god, okay, because I know how they
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: use the media and like that is another thing that
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: we investigate on this show.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 4: And like, oh my god, well it's to humiliate too.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, and it's like giving us the learned helplessness and
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: like look, you know, yes we do kill our children,
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: like Pupah Winfrey is. You know, she talks about scraping
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: the inside of her uterus with a coat hanger, you know.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: And she's the hero, right like okay, so right right,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: and she's on the billboard, you know, and that's what
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: everybody does know about. But I you know, Carrie knows
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: more like Carrie had to be you know, she calls
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 1: her pupa because she became she had to be intimate
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: with the fupa. You know, Oh my god, Like she
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: wants to make fun of the bitch because of like
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: of course right to like jab a little bit, you know, but.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah, like fucking bo and fucking greasy farts.
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: Probably just and she had to dissociate while she was
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: going out like nasty but really like it. So that
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: is like those are the ones that they put on
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: the daytime TV. Those are the ones that they make
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: us cry, you know, like Oprah can make all the
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: moms cry when eating their bond bonds. You know, oh yeah,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: and so like it's of course they those are the
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: magicians they used to fucking give us the false reality
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: that okay, you know, and you know, Michael Aquino was
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: there on Oprah like when the Presidio ship was going down,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: like he was saying, oh, Satanism is fine, you know,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: like okay, So like I you know, when when Proan
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Malgovich is the guy, like for other people are all like, oh,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: that's funny they used He's just such a random actor.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: Why would they do that?
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 4: Haha, Right, But that's just proved to me, like okay, opific,
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 4: don't you think.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And I'm glad that you that I was
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: able to bring that information to you, like, oh, it's
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: more confirmation for you. I want you to tell everybody.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah fuck yeah, dude. It's like I guess it's it's
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: just hearsay, you know, because there's no like evidence beyond
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: the memory of a person that is a good friend
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: of mine and I trust, you know.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 4: But let me tell you something about that, because I
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 4: talked to somebody about Atlantis the other day and I
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 4: tried to explain it to I believe it existed. I
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: believe that they had some probably some fucking like advanced
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 4: technology and shit like that. And he's like, well, there's
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: no evidence to prove that. And I'm like, but you're Catholic.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 4: People choose what they believe in. You don't necessarily have
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 4: to be uh, you know, evidence backed. Okay, I can
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 4: choose what I want to believe, and I do it
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 4: based on logic and reason, you know what I'm saying.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Cassavetts from Rosemary's Baby, they were so
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: happy to hear their Rosemary was Catholic, you know, she was.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: She was the perfect victim for their plans, you know,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: poor Catholics. I used to be Catholic myself, and I
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: started thinking at twelve years old, and then they kicked
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: me out of Catechism because I was like asking questions
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, defying their teachings. And I got kicked out.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: They were like, he can't come back, and my dad
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, you don't have to go anymore.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to be I don't
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: believe it, and they were like, okay, whatever I got
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: free by defying it was really good. It was great.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: I compare it to like, people choose what fairy tales
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 4: they want to believe in and whatever, the Santa Claus,
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 4: et cetera.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, and yeah, I always believe that Santa
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: Claus trains people to be statists. So so now that
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: we are a little more enlightened on, you know, the
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 1: minuscule facts that shouldn't be overlooked, we uh, Now that
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: you've brought that to our attention, those of our listeners
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: that are not familiar with your work, they should be
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: alerted to where they could find it. Please tell us
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: where we can find you.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much for having me too, because you
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 4: know these are these are kind of older topics. Sure,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 4: you know this happened in eighty nine, still relevant though,
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 4: you know, still super relevant. And I have Cosmic Peach
• 2:22:02
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• 2:22:06
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• 2:22:11
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• 2:22:13
  Speaker 4: this show and I really appreciate that. So yeah, if
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 4: you're feeling frisky, come check me out Cosmic Peach podcast. Sean,
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 4: you're the best. Thanks for having me for this, you know,
• 2:22:27
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• 2:22:30
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• 2:22:33
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• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm delighted.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 4: To have you.
• 2:22:38
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• 2:22:46
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• 2:22:50
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• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: should know your show by now if they're listeners of mine.
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 4: I hope you know.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: But it's great to have a good friend to come
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: and talk. So I'm so glad to talk to you
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: today and thank you. And uh, you know, I hope
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: that you get some good sleep tonight. I know that
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta you know, wine the whining puppy helps.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 4: Breath.
• 2:23:19
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• 2:23:26
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  Speaker 3: You sacrifice the good.
• 2:24:14
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• 2:24:23
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• 2:24:24
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• 2:24:31
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