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Episode #86: Are mRNA Shots in Livestock Transmissible to Humans & Are mRNA Shots Used in Organic Meat? · Beyond Labels Premium

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SPEAKER_00: You can be assured uh this this comes down to the big question of who do you trust?
0:05
SPEAKER_00: You and I both know that the kind of machinations that happen within the corporate industrial uh ag complex are quite um nefarious, sinister, and opaque when it comes to a matter of trust.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, these folks kind of all drink from the same Kool-Aid, they come from the same paradigm.
0:25
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, playing fast and loose with our food, their primary interest is not human health.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: Their primary interest is keeping their animals alive so they can get them dead in time to sell them to you on your plate.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: That's that's their interest.
0:40
SPEAKER_00: Hi, everybody.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another episode of Beyond Labels.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: Last episode, we introduced this topic of mRNA vaccines in the livestock industry.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: And what we discovered is that it has been ongoing for a long time, that there's a tremendous amount of words wordsmithing within the industry to cover up what is actually going on.
1:05
SPEAKER_00: Things like saying, well, there's no license, but actually they are conditional licenses.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: And so you know you you you kind of it's kind of like uh what went on with subtherapeutic and therapeutic antibiotic uh wordsmithing in the industry for a long time before now.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: And what we're what we're seeing is that the uh the uh the public pushback of antibiotic use in livestock uh has gradually been uh been noticed by powers that be uh both in the in the market and legislatively.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: And so the the the typical general use of antibiotics within livestock is actually decreasing.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: But that is what's driving uh this uh this this push to move toward our mRNA uh vaccines uh into, as Tina says, warp speed, to substitute the NRA the mRNA vaccine for the historically used uh antibiotics.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: So that's where we kind of left last episode, and we're going to pick it up now with this episode.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: We know they're being used, they're all under conditional permits, they're not being very heavily studied.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: There's a pretty much a blanket, a blanket licensure to let the companies you know play with this as much as they want to.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: The food is going into the food supply, and that's where we left off last time.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: Cena, let's go on with the analysis.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay, great.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Jill.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: So let's pick right back up with the timeline.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, we had mentioned that Harris vaccine was given a conditional license in 2012 for a pig um influenza H3N2 RNA injection.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, and they got a license for three, uh a conditional license for three other mRNA injections, and then they were acquired by Merck Animal Health.
3:02
SPEAKER_01: Now in 2016, a company called CureVac developed another mRNA-based uh vaccine for rabies.
3:14
SPEAKER_01: And I I found that through a study that was published in the National Library of Medicine, right, which is part of NIH.
3:23
SPEAKER_01: Um so they they they published this study saying that they have this mRNA vaccine encoding the rabies virus, glycoprotein, and that it did induce protection against the lethal infection.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it correlates to protection in adults and newborn pigs.
3:42
SPEAKER_01: Now, here's the problem with a potential problem with that study is and let me be clear, when they do when they have these studies, these paved the way for the use of these um vaccines, right, in the actual um animal.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: Under conflicts of interest statement, um, over half of the authors, the researchers, were employees of CureVac.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: So the same company who's doing the research, these over half of the scientists, the researchers studying it were employees of that same company.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: And then um four of the authors were named as inventors on a patent application um for a rabies vaccine filed by that same company, CureVac.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: So no conflict of interest there whatsoever.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we can trust that study, right?
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Then um now back to Merck.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: Merck in 2015, they entered into a partnership with Moderna.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: We all know Moderna, right?
4:50
SPEAKER_01: They um they entered this partnership to develop, quote, a number of mRNA vaccines.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: These are undisclosed vaccines.
4:58
SPEAKER_01: Um I've not been able to find which ones they are.
5:02
SPEAKER_01: I know that it was a three-year collaboration uh where Merck would perform research and development and commercialization of um potentially five products using Moderna's um mRNA technology.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: All right, I do know that one of the products resulting from that collaboration was Sequivity, which in the last podcast we went through detail about what Sequivity is, these personalized vaccines for um pigs that have been around since 2018.
5:34
SPEAKER_01: So um that was one of them.
5:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the other vaccines are, but we do know that there are other undisclosed mRNA vaccines they've been working on.
5:43
SPEAKER_01: Now, Bayer, right?
5:44
SPEAKER_01: Like what happened to Bayer and all this?
5:46
SPEAKER_01: So Bayer back in 2016, they partnered with BioNTech to develop mRNA vaccines for both livestock and your pets.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, I cannot find if they've launched anything.
5:58
SPEAKER_01: I haven't found any press releases, but I know that they were working together also to create these vaccines.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: All right.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Now, in chickens, right, there's not been as much talk in in the public square over the in this this the last couple of weeks about chickens, the effect on chickens.
6:16
SPEAKER_01: It's been mainly on cattle.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, but as I've now shown you, the the real talk should be about the pork, right?
6:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, and now let me tell you what's what I have found that's happening in chickens.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: So we know that they there was that avian influenza RNA shot that was conditionally licensed in 2015 for chickens.
6:36
SPEAKER_01: So that could be used on the chickens now.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: I can't tell you if it is or not, right?
6:41
SPEAKER_01: That data is not available, but we do know that it's out there.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: And we know that newer mRNA lipid nanoparticle injections um are also in the works for avian influenza.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: So in March of this year of 2023, there was a study published in the journal Vaccine.
7:01
SPEAKER_01: It was titled A New HN Influenza Virus mRNA vaccine elicits robust protective immunity against infection.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: All right, Joel, do you have any guess as to where this study took place?
7:20
SPEAKER_01: Which country did it take place in?
7:21
SPEAKER_00: Which country did it take place in?
7:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which country do you think did this with avian influenza?
7:28
SPEAKER_00: My goodness.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh, this is a bit of a whoo, you're pushing me.
7:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know, Ukraine.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: No, but it could have been.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that probably would have been better.
7:38
SPEAKER_01: No, it took place in a lab in China.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: Ah, okay.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes, China is working on these shots as well.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, the scientists concluded the following avian influenza virus poses a great threat to the poultry industry and public health.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: However, commercial vaccines only provide limited immunity due to rapid virus mutation and rearrangement, right?
8:05
SPEAKER_01: So that's something you're gonna find as you're as you're looking through these studies that I'm linking in these art in these um podcasts, you're gonna find that while um the scientists, you know, the the the pharmaceutical industry, the government has just pushed traditional vaccines as though like these are an answer to prayer.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Like solve all of our problems, they're all safe.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: Now, what you're seeing as I've been reading through these studies that are promoting the mRNA vaccine, they're actually turning on the traditional vaccines.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: They're talking about um some safety concerns with them, um, and how these mRNA vaccines are like this new generation of vaccine that's gonna deal with, you know, um basically get rid of all these safety concerns.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: So that's where this quote's coming from from these um Chinese um scientists.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: They're saying the commercial vaccines provide limited immunity.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: And then they say, quote, here we developed an mRNA lipid nanoparticle vaccine.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: The vaccine prepared in this study was safe and could trigger potential cellular and humoral immune response to defend against virus infection.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: So they're already claiming that it's better than the rest, it's safe.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: And it and they're already claiming that this RNA vaccine is eliciting the immune response that we desire, right?
9:29
SPEAKER_01: When you give a vaccine, the whole point is you're trying to trigger a cellular and humoral immune response so that the the memory cells become activated, for instance.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: And if if the chicken's ever exposed to that disease, it will its immune system will know what to do.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: So the scientists are claiming victory here, is what I'm saying, that they have the shot and it works, right?
9:53
SPEAKER_01: And that that one just came out in March of this year.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: So who knows?
9:58
SPEAKER_01: They could be using that one now.
9:59
SPEAKER_01: They could have been using that under an experimental, you know, limit a conditional license on chickens that we ate.
10:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
10:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm just saying we've seen that happen before in the past with FDA, you know, acceptance.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: So I can't tell you if that's happening, but it's happened in the past.
10:18
SPEAKER_01: So we're this is speculative at this point.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: But you know what I'm saying, Joel?
10:23
SPEAKER_01: That this is what's available.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: And all we can do now is speculate on what's happening to these chickens and what are they actually doing with these vaccines that are claiming um that are are basically an answer to prayer.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: They're better than the traditional vaccine.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you you can you can be assured, uh, yeah, this this comes down to the big question of who do you trust?
10:45
SPEAKER_00: Who do you trust?
10:46
SPEAKER_00: And uh and uh you and I both know that the the the kind of machinations that happen within the corporate industrial uh ag complex are are are quite um nefarious, sinister, and opaque.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: And so when it comes to a matter of trust, um you know, these folks kind of all drink from the same Kool-Aid.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: And uh and they come from the same paradigm.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, playing fast and loose with our food, uh you know, their primary interest is not human health.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh their primary interest is um is is keeping their animals alive so they can get them uh so they can get them dead in time to sell them to you on your plate.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: That's that's their interest.
11:39
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: And now um I want to dive into that a little more.
11:44
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's first talk about if organic meat is safe, and then let's go into what you're talking about.
11:51
SPEAKER_01: Do these mRNA injections affect the meat and are they transmissible to humans?
11:57
SPEAKER_01: And do we trust that data?
11:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's go into that now.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, organic meat, right?
12:03
SPEAKER_01: This was this used to be my fallback when I would research the food supply and learn all these horrible things that they were doing to adulterate our food supply.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, I'll just I'll just choose organic, right?
12:14
SPEAKER_01: Then I learned about loopholes in organic.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: So then I was like, okay, I just got to go to the farm.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: So this is another um, by the way, a farm I trust, right?
12:22
SPEAKER_01: This is another example of how just choosing organic meat or organic chicken or organic eggs in the grocery store is not gonna save you from potentially not gonna save you from these mRNA injections.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: All right.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: The organic standards don't actually have specific rules on the use of vaccines, mRNA-based vaccines, or otherwise.
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SPEAKER_01: If you look at the organic standards, there's a list that's provided, it's online, I'll include the web the link so you can look at it for yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: It tells the organic um community what can and cannot be put in the food.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: And if you look under synthetic substances, vaccines are listed as allowed in the organic food supply, and there's no caveats listed underneath it.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: So sometimes when you look at that um document, that government document, it will list things like a drug.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: So a drug might be allowed, a synthetic drug might be allowed in or the organic meat supply, but then it has caveats underneath.
13:34
SPEAKER_01: So, like has to be given by a veterinarian, um, you have to have a withdrawal period of so many days before slaughter, things like that.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: If you look in that document under vaccines, there are no caveats to it.
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SPEAKER_01: The only thing I found where they really elaborated on vaccines is this following quote um from the government.
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SPEAKER_01: Vaccines for animals are important disease prevention tools against many infectious diseases, especially since antibiotic therapy is prohibited in organic livestock.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we're back to that whole concept where okay, now we we we fought against the antibiotics in organic meat.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: So, okay, we agree that now there's no, you know, or very limited antibiotic use in organic livestock.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: And so now we have to have the vaccines in order to protect these animals.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: And as far as I can tell, there's no caveats.
14:35
SPEAKER_01: Now, Joel, I did call um the National Organic Standard Board last week to ask them.
14:43
SPEAKER_01: I wanted clarification, right?
14:45
SPEAKER_01: There's no caveats listed in the document.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: Does this mean it's a free-for-all?
14:50
SPEAKER_01: Can organic producers use any vaccine that they want, including mRNA vaccines?
14:58
SPEAKER_01: I was told they would have to call me back.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: And Joel, I'm holding my breath for that callback.
15:06
unknown: Uh-huh.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there's no, there's there's no exceptions, no exemptions.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I um you know, I mean, obviously, you know, our farm, we're you know, we're in livestock, and people excoriated me for not joining the organic uh labeling, the government organically labeling program.
15:25
SPEAKER_00: We've not we don't vaccinate here uh just out of principle, but um, and we don't have our chicks vaccinated, you know, you but but it's so it's so ubiquitous, uh Cena within the system.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: You have to actually ordering chicks from a hatchery, we have to tell them don't vaccinate because they they typically routinely vaccinate.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, even if you're buying chickens, chicks for your backyard, um, you know, and you're getting 20 chicks or 25 chicks or something from somewhere, uh, chances are they've been vaccinated, they have to be specifically told not to vaccinate.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: And this is an area, uh, in my view, where organics has simply kind of uh they they've they've pulled a pilot.
16:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm washing my hands of this and stepping aside.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, you you you handle this the way you want.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: And um, and so now, so I mean, we're I I know I know we're progressing in our in our content here, we're progressing in our analysis, but at some point we're going to address what is the difference between the this the these new mRNA versus the old that we've had for you know a hundred years.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: We're we're we're going to get to that point.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh so hang with us.
16:46
SPEAKER_00: All right.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Why don't we do that now?
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: Organic simply does not does not address it.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh they simply they simply look away.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, that is exactly right.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: So so your solution to this issue can't be, I'm just gonna go into the grocery store and choose the organic version, right?
17:06
SPEAKER_01: At least at this point, we will keep you updated if I hear back from the government with clarification on that.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: But using common sense when you're looking at the organic standard, but like Joel and I said, they're they're switching, they're showing, they're telling you in that statement that vaccines are important prevention tools because antibiotic therapy is prohibited and we don't see any caveats.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so common sense tells us that is not going to be our solution.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the other thing, see, I think it's really important to point out here, too, is that when you become animal welfare certified or humane certified or any of these other kind of animal welfare uh certifications, those often take a very aggressive view toward treatment, toward animal treatment.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: In other words, if you come to my farm and I have a sick, a sick calf uh that's not being treated, aggressively treated, then I am inhumane.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: I I I'm uh uh an abusive, you know, an animal abuser.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: And and so the actual uh animal welfare uh certification programs often push farmers into uh greater uh uh greater interventive care than they otherwise uh uh need to do or even I would suggest should do, uh, you know, in a in a kind of uh um adaptive Darwinian view, you know, function over form if um animals aren't humans, and so if we have a sick chicken, it either gets better or it dies, you know, and and and uh and and that means it's culled from the genetic pool, and and that's what nature does, you know.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh we we don't see uh um uh uh you know aggressive intervention in every case uh uh being either economically or even emotionally or genetically beneficial.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: And so um so so you know that's where some of these things get kind of cross-purposes uh of uh of um whatever uh of you know authenticity and integrity, you know, within the system.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay, go ahead, Cena.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Give us give us now the rundown on is there a difference?
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay, great.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna talk about does it affect the animal, right?
19:29
SPEAKER_01: The meat of the animal, and is it transmissible to humans how this is different than the traditional vaccines?
19:36
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let me start up front by saying we don't know.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, like we don't actually know because we don't have all the data, and they certainly are not giving us the raw data.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: What I'm gonna share with you now is what I have been able to piece together.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay, there's at this point, there are three main questions we need to answer.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: The first question is Is the animal that receives the mRNA injection sicker?
20:04
SPEAKER_01: So is that animal sicker than say if if the animal had received a traditional vaccine?
20:11
SPEAKER_01: And that we obviously want to know that because you are what you eat, and you don't want to be eating sick meat, chicken, milk, or eggs, right?
20:19
SPEAKER_01: This one, we don't actually know the answer to that question.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: There's some studies, like I just I referenced a couple in the last in this podcast and last one that have been published, but as I mentioned, they're funded by the company and you can't see the raw data.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: So we don't actually have access to the full truth about what happened with the animals.
20:41
SPEAKER_01: This is reminiscent of I bring up RBGH again, um, where they did have studies that went on, and the information that was sold to the public did not match the study information that ended up eventually coming out under a Freedom of Information Act.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: So we were lied to about that.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: The animals did get sick.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: So it's possible.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: We don't have the information.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: I can't answer that question for you.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: The other two questions that we need to answer, I do have some information.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Wait, C to go on to the next one, though.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: That RBGH uh that we live through realize A, uh it's literally not being used anymore.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the the the external um uh the the negative consequences of that were so severe that actually it it ended up not making economic sense.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Now, now the um uh the the animals uh their skeletons broke down, they had more crippling, uh infertility, uh there were all sorts of external things that that caused that.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: So I can't help at this point when when we look, all right, let's connect the dots here philosophically.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: RBGH was the darling of the industry.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean it Was the darling of the industry for a period of about five years.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: And it literally no longer exists.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: We've got everything from myocardial infarction to you know all sorts of external things that are that are coming out.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: And and so and these are very similar things.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: So when you ask, are the animals thicker?
22:33
SPEAKER_00: Well you know maybe maybe they're not getting uh whatever porcine uh acute diarrhea, but perhaps they're more infertile.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Or they're having uh one of the things that Temple Grandon, Temple Grandin is talking about is just massive, massive lameness, lameness throughout the industry, throughout the livestock industry, um, especially in cattle.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: But we're just seeing massive lameness throughout.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Could this lameness be caused by the MR?
23:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, the the the the dots aren't all connected yet, but we but we we if we look at other things uh we realize that there is a you know that there are down the road things that these uh um injections uh create uh that don't get picked up sometimes in the first year or even two years, and and then down the road they get picked up.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: So are the animals sicker?
23:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we don't have a definitive answer on that, but if we connect our BGH and we connect what we're seeing with COVID, if I I'm not a gambling man, but if I were a gambling man, I would put money on the fact that there will be there will be implications down the road.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh yes, I completely agree with you.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: I would bet alongside you with that.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, and just to give you a couple um indicators in case people haven't been keeping up with the new newer developments with the COVID vaccine, and I'm gonna give you a couple of highlights of more recent developments in terms of health.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: And the reason I'm doing that is because, like Joel said, we have to connect the dots here.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: They're not gonna give us the data.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: And so this is the same technology that they're using in these livestock.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: And so what we have to go by is what we're seeing in humans, you know, who received the mRNA injection.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: So it's my understanding that the World Health Organization is actually no longer recommending the COVID-19 vaccine to children.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: And I think it was the Swiss that stopped recommending it in general.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, but let me tell you some information that came out of those, you know, the Pfizer documents that were released, the court or remember how Pfizer um in court like asked the judge, can you not release and can you not force us to release the documents for like 75 years or something?
25:02
SPEAKER_01: And the judge was like, No, you're going to release them.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I'm gonna give you just a couple highlights that are applicable here that came out of those Pfizer documents that Pfizer did not want to have released.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, Pfizer knew in in November 2020, one month after the vaccine was rolled out.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: This was like post-market, they were pushing it on everybody to get it.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Pfizer knew one month after that rollout that the vaccine didn't work to stop COVID.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: They used terms like vaccine failure or failure of efficacy.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: And get this, Joel.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: Pfizer itself, in those documents, identified the third most common side effect from getting the COVID injection was COVID.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: So it you can only conclude that it was giving them COVID.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, the third most common side effect was getting COVID.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, within one to two months, Joel, within one to two months, Pfizer received so many reports of adverse events, adverse health events, that in these documents they said they needed to hire 2,400 full-time staffers just to process the paperwork.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: 2,400 people to process the paperwork.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, they knew in May of 2021.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: This one, this one really gets to me.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: In May of 2021, Pfizer and FDA knew because these documents say FDA confidential on the bottom of them.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: Pfizer and FDA knew that the vaccine caused heart damage in 35 kids.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: But they didn't tell the parents until four months later in August of 2020.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: They didn't tell the parents till four months there is an elevated risk of heart damage in healthy kids.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: Instead, our kids were bombarded with ads from influencers basically pushing them to get the COVID vaccine.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: Remember, they would have people like um showing where they got the injection shot, like all proudly, and they knew that it was hurting kids.
27:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, and this is the last one I'll mention because this is related to this livestock question at hand.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: The CDC kept telling everybody that the material from the mRNA shot stayed in the injection site.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
27:35
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna stay in the injection site, it's not gonna go systemic, you know, being meaning move throughout your body.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Pfizer in these documents knew that the material went systemic.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: They they used the term that it biodistribute, that it biodistributed in 48 hours throughout the body.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: They knew it accumulated in the brain, spleen, adrenals, the ovaries, and the liver.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: And what happened was over time the material would go down at the injection site, and they could claim, oh, it's just the body's destroying it, right?
28:15
SPEAKER_01: It's being digested by the body.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: But some studies showed that it went up in the organs over time.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: And they knew this information.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: So there goes lack of trust.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: We have the RBGH story where they lied to us for eight years and we were consuming that experimental milk and meat.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: And now we have Pfizer's own documents saying they knew these various um developments and they lied to us, they lied to the public about it.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: And if it distributes in the human body, right, and there's numerous studies also showing that like the mRNA uh material in humans did not degrade with you know within a few days.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: There's some studies showing it's in the body for like 60, 90 days, and then it probably longer because they stopped the study, right?
29:04
SPEAKER_01: So this is applicable to what we're talking about here because if they're using the same technology and they're giving it to the animals that we are going to eat, it probably also distributes amongst the animal.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: Now let's roll into because that that is this next question.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay, the the lap the two questions we need to address are related to that.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: How long does the genetic material persist in the animal?
29:32
SPEAKER_01: And if it persists in the milk meter eggs, once we eat it, does it survive our digestion, right, and get incorporated into the body systemically?
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Or this is one people are forgetting about does it bind to the lining of our gastrointestinal tract?
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Because if you recall, we think 60 to 80 percent of our immune system is actually in the gastrointestinal tract.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: So that genetic material doesn't actually have to get absorbed and circulate through the body to cause an immune response.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: It could possibly just bind to immune cells in the gastrointestinal tract and elicit an immune response in us.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so those are the questions we're gonna try to answer right now.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay, first one is how long does the genetic material persist in the animal once it is administered?
30:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we don't know exactly how long, but we can infer based on the human information that we have.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: So one of the reasons why there's conflicting data.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: So, so okay, let me back up.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: In the COVID-19 situation with humans, with the injections, we had the government and the pharmaceutical industry telling us that RNA is very fragile, right?
30:51
SPEAKER_01: This mRNA is super fragile, and so it's gonna break down very quickly.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: We have to even store it in certain conditions, like refrigerate it, because it's it's a protein, it's so fragile, it's just gonna break down, right?
31:02
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember hearing about that, Joel?
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, you know, sub-zero, you know, very like you we you you can't even transport Harley because it's uh it's gotta be kept frozen, you know, at a real uh low, low freeze temperature is crazy.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: So this is what what's happened.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Now we have more information about how they actually created those mRNAs.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Pfizer and Moderna, from what I can tell, chose to a certain development strategy for their mRNA vaccine where they actually chose synthetic units.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: So basically, if you're making natural RNA, so if the body is making RNA, it makes it using what are called two purines, which are adenine and guanine, and two pyrimidines, which are um cytosine and uracil.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, those are it's like putting a piece of putting puzzle pieces together.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: Those are the pieces that it has to choose from.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: It picks them in a certain order to make a certain type of RNA.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: All right.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Now, what's happened is that uracil, so one of those pyrimidines, the uracil, you can actually replace um, it has a ribose ring called uridine on it.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: You can actually replace it with a synthetic product.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: It's called N1 methyl pseudo uridine.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: All right.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: Wait, yes, when they replace so they didn't actually inject people with a natural, quote, natural RNA.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: They replaced part of it, part of the juracell, with this synthetic product.
32:54
SPEAKER_01: When you do that, it makes the genetic code for the Wuhan spike protein more stable.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: So it makes it more stable on that lipid nanoparticle, which means it lasts longer in the body, and it makes it very efficient at evading being destroyed by the cell.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: All right.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: It also makes it able to undergo um repeat reading by the ribosomes.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: So you have the RNA, a ribosome has to read it.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: It's like reading a book, and a protein comes out, right?
33:33
SPEAKER_01: That's the spike protein that comes out.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, because this genetic code is more stable, it can be read more times by the ribosome, meaning it can continue to make the spike protein.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: All right, and now both Pfizer and Moderna chose, from what I can tell, to make their vaccines by replacing that uridine unit with the pseudo-uridine.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: That makes the the that made the genetic strand unnatural to the human body.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: And so we don't actually know how long this synthetic mRNA is active in the body, right?
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, we there's studies that are finding it, you know, 60 plus days after injection, but then the study stops, so we don't know how long it would actually persist, but none of the studies have actually demonstrated complete clearance of this synthetic mRNA from groups of patients.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: So if the veterinarians are giving the mRNA injection to livestock that has this synthetic replacement, this pseudo-uridine, it the genetic material could persist in the animal once received.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: That means it could end up, just like we saw with um the Pfizer zone documents, it could end up in the organs, you know, in the meat, um, in the brain, the liver.
35:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean, how many of us try to, you know, muster down liver just so that we can be healthy, right?
35:06
SPEAKER_01: And now it this thing, we know it accumulates in the liver on humans.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: So it is possible, depending on the type of mRNA development they did, if they are truly modeling it after the human um mRNA designed injection, then it is possible that it will persist in the animal.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: The second question then is if it persists, once it's consumed by the human, does it survive digestion and/or does it initiate some kind of immune response to the GI tract?
35:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh, there is some data about this.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: So I want to first say that we're talking about transmissibility here, the ability to transmit pretty much vaccine effects from an animal to a human.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: We all know Dr.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: Peter McCullough, right?
35:56
SPEAKER_01: He has come out and said that he thinks there is potential for transmissibility.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: There is a study, it's a Chinese study, that has reported that inoculation can be passed to the GI tract.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, but but they don't know yet if it activates our genes or our metabolic machinery once inside the body.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: So that part they don't know.
36:22
SPEAKER_01: We do know that there's studies out of Europe that are saying that the RNA can be incorporated into the DNA.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: All right, so there's some evidence there.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: And now we have new research from MIT.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: This research does appear to confirm that mRNA material can be absorbed through the stomach when consumers eat meat sourced from the um an RNA vaccinated animal.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: Basically, what MIT did was they design a capsule that you can ingest, and that capsule would attach itself to the lining of the stomach and inject RNA, right?
37:03
SPEAKER_01: Inject this RNA vaccine.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: In that new study, they were actually able to deliver up to 150 micrograms of RNA to the stomach of pigs.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: That's more RNA than the amount that was used in the RNA, uh mRNA COVID vaccines.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: So they've already been able to do this in pigs.
37:25
SPEAKER_01: Now, previously, what these MIT researchers saw was that they injected the mRNA into the stomachs of mice.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: So they didn't use the capsule, they injected this special mRNA into the stomachs of the mouse.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: The RNA was found in the stomach, but also in the liver.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: And that suggested that RNA had been taken up by the organs in the body and carried to the liver.
37:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so next they gave the mRNA capsules to the pigs.
37:55
SPEAKER_01: That protein that was translated from the mRNA, it was successfully produced by cells in the stomach of the pig, right?
38:09
SPEAKER_01: So they saw the protein in the stomach of the pig.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: They didn't actually see protein though elsewhere in the pig's body.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: So now what they're doing is they're contemplating either changing the composition of the nanoparticle or they're going to give more, a larger dose of the mRNA to the pig and see what happens.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: But as I mentioned previously, the researchers also did note that it is possible to generate a quote, strong immune response by only delivering the vaccine to the stomach.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: So remember, I said 60 to 80% of the immune system is in the GI tract?
38:45
SPEAKER_01: One of the lead authors of the study said the following: There are many immune cells in the gastrointestinal tract, and stimulating the immune system of the gastrointestinal tract is a known way of creating an immune response.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: So, what does this actually mean for the consumer?
39:04
SPEAKER_01: If the mRNA stays intact in the animal meat and the milk and eggs, it might not even need to enter your human blood supply to cause an immune effect.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: It might just need to buy into the immune receptors of the cells in the GI tract, and it could potentially stimulate a systemic response in you, right?
39:25
SPEAKER_01: And that's actually the question that the scientists are now investigating.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: And um just to put the cherry on top, the that research is funded in part by the National Institute of Health, you know, Fauci's formal organization, which means they use our tax dollars.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: They're using our tax dollars to um adulterate our food supply.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, this is um this is your government at work, and and I'm I'm so I'm so thankful that I'll be able to eat a pork chop somewhere, and at least I won't get pore sign uh poresign diarrhea.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, you know, uh this has been just fascinating.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: I've I've really appreciate listening to what you've uncovered here, and it's um it's not good.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: And so um in in in a in a couple of minutes, can we can we kind of now that everybody's scared to death, uh can we can we kind of move people to so what you know what's the solution, or do we need a do we need another episode yet to kind of uh finish this out?
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, so let's do let's do both those things.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: We are going to need another episode.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: There's more to tell you about what we're finding in the meat itself under the microscope, and I haven't even told you about the vaccines and plants yet, but let's go ahead and talk about um a couple solutions really quick, and we can we can elaborate on these in in later podcasts.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: As I said, this is going to be an ongoing developing story, and we'll keep you posted as we know more.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so one solution I do want to mention, um, this is not my favorite solution because, you know, um because the the laws, the rules and regulations and laws always have loopholes.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: But it's something that you could do if you want to start taking action.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: There is a Missouri House bill.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: It's it's 1169.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: It was drafted with help from lawyer Tom Rens, right?
41:47
SPEAKER_01: The one who basically brought this whole story to light.
41:50
SPEAKER_01: That bill would require labeling of products that can alter your genes.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: It would also require companies to share information about the potential transmissibility of gene altering interventions.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: And it also asserts that fully informed consent must be given for all vaccines, gene therapies, and medical interventions.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, they the pushback that this bill has been getting is enormous, right?
42:18
SPEAKER_01: Which really should tell you something about what's happening in our food supply, because this bill isn't actually banning anything.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: It's not actually banning the use of these genetic technology.
42:29
SPEAKER_01: It's basically saying we have the right to know.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Please label it if you have given any of these animals a gene, um, a gene-altering um injection.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: But it's being opposed by again the Missouri Cattlemen's Association, the Missouri Corn Growers Association, Missouri Pork Association, the Missouri Farm Bureau, Missouri Soybean Growers Association, and the Chambers of Commerce.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, basically, what Tom Wrenz is saying is that big pharma can't come out against this bill because it would be a PR nightmare for them.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: So instead, what they've done is they've gone to these organizations, right?
43:10
SPEAKER_01: They've gone to the big ag community and asked them to support the bill or asked them um to basically go against this bill.
43:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, when asked why they're why they would do that.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: His his answer is that they're getting money from Bill Gates, um, who's one of the largest farm landowners now in America.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: Um and China's the other one, right?
43:36
SPEAKER_01: China owns all these factory farms.
43:38
SPEAKER_01: And so what they're saying is that they're in the pocket of you know, these bigger people, these bigger elitists.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, and and Gay, Gaith has a lot to lose here.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: He has many vaccine patents and he funds a lot of vaccine research.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: And like I said, big farm owner.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, in his fake meat, I mean, he wouldn't even know what's going to be in that.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: But basically, what they what Renz is asking people to do is to call the Missouri people that are it's in committee right now.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: This bill's in committee.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: He wants you to call the people and tell them you want this bill to pull through.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: We'll put a link in the podcast to that so you can call those people.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: He's also saying for all of us in our own states to call our representatives and try to get similar bills pushed.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: According to him, we just need this one bill in the one state pushed.
44:32
SPEAKER_01: If it passes, then the meat's gonna have to be labeled.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: And so he thinks that will be labeled across the United States.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Um again, this is one option that you can do.
44:44
SPEAKER_01: There's going to be, uh Joel, wouldn't you agree?
44:48
SPEAKER_01: There's going to be loopholes.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: There's somehow there's going to be carve-outs, exceptions, and loopholes in that.
44:54
SPEAKER_01: But I but you at least if it gets it gives you some kind of action to move forward, and maybe it brings more awareness to the community, which is what we need, right, Joel?
45:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, you know, uh all of us have different um whatever, different different uh uh bailiwicks of action uh that we like to you know jump in on.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: And folks that love the the political scene um and want to support that, uh this is a great uh this is a great uh way to uh you know show support.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, uh uh again, this this will no doubt have loopholes just like all these kinds of things have had, um, you know, just like organic allows, you know, soilless systems and everything else.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: So uh there's there's always there's always uh you know concessions uh in these in these things.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: So you know who knows what those will be like, but yeah, it is something.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's not is there another uh item.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: Well, one thing I did want to just add in too is that um in a previous podcast, you and I talked about the problem with the made in the USA label, right?
46:12
SPEAKER_01: And how just because it says made in the US doesn't mean that your your meat or your chickens were actually raised in the US, right?
46:21
SPEAKER_01: It could just be processed in the US.
46:24
SPEAKER_01: So what that means in terms of this uh topic is that it's not just the USA, um, you you don't you need to know where your meat is coming from in the USA, like what what vaccines they're giving it, if any.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: But now it's more important than ever to know what meat you're eating from other countries, right?
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Because what are the other countries doing with giving vaccines or mRNA vaccines to their meat?
46:53
SPEAKER_01: And if it's not properly labeled in the grocery store, you could be actually eating um you know meat meat that has been subjected to these um these mRNA vaccines.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: So so this is you know, just to add another level of complexity to it, Joel, it's like like even if we got it passed in the US, and then you went into the grocery store and you bought organic meat and it said made in the USA, right?
47:23
SPEAKER_01: It it doesn't necessarily mean that it didn't get vaccinated.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, so we're back to the know your farmer, know your food.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's exactly right, Joel.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: So um let's pick this up in the next podcast, but because there's much more to share.
47:41
SPEAKER_01: But I um I completely agree with Joel.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: We've at this point, I said to my family, we're out of the grocery store.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: Like I rarely get stuff from the grocery store, anyways, in terms of like meat, chicken, or eggs.
47:55
SPEAKER_01: Maybe when I'm traveling, I might find like organic grass-fed, grass-finished beef or something.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: But now I'm I'm not even willing to do that anymore.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: So I spent a lot of this weekend researching this and figuring out what farms can I source meat, chicken, eggs, all that from the give no vaccines.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Like not even the farms that I'm calling that are saying, oh, we only do, you know, the minimal amount of vaccines and it's for diseases that have been around that are, you know, protecting the livelihood of our of our herds.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: I heard that a lot.
48:29
SPEAKER_01: Um, because those could be swapped out and they may not even know, right?
48:33
SPEAKER_01: So I we have decided as a family, nothing from the grocery store.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: We are only supporting those farms that don't that don't give any kind of vaccines.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: We have some here locally, I found, but also um a piece of good news for people who don't have those farms around them, you can buy your your meat, your chickens, and in some places even eggs online now.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Like Joel at Polyface, you can now buy his meat, chicken, and eggs online and have it delivered to your house.
49:06
SPEAKER_00: I am astounded.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: Last week we shipped 90 dozen, not 90 dozen eggs last week um uh on our on our ship day.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: We ship on Tuesdays.
49:19
SPEAKER_00: It's really uh it's really a strange, uh, strange time in the egg business.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you're right.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, shipping is available, and I'm not I'm not make trying to make an ad for ourselves, but uh I'm encouraging other farmers to dig into this and realize uh that uh that that shipping, the logistics of shipping uh is now um is now actually competitive, uh like we've never seen it.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: You have this adulteration over here, but then you have a technological thing over here that allows a solution.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: And isn't that kind of the way, you know, the way life is?
49:55
SPEAKER_00: You you you know, you get a negative over here, you get a positive over there that compensates for it, and you're up and running.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: And so um, so uh, you know, here we are, and um and you know, the the the old saying, what got you here won't get you there.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and so um it and again, so there's more to unravel in this, but the but yes, don't be uh don't sit in fear and don't think there is no solution, right?
50:25
SPEAKER_01: You can help support that bill to provide some sort of transparency, and you can find food, you know, meat, eggs, and chicken that has not been vaccinated whatsoever.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Look locally.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: You can um plug into, for instance, Weston Prize chapters and ask them for help um in procuring, you know, the right farms.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, there's also farms that advertise now on Facebook.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: Not that I do not support Facebook, but that's where some of these farms are because it's expensive to have a website.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, you or you can buy online.
50:58
SPEAKER_01: And I would encourage the farmers, just like Joel's encouraged these great farmers to start shipping, I would encourage them to use the um rewards program uh because it's more enticing for a consumer.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: So, for instance, we our family will place a large order from Polyface, and because we do buy so much from them, we have a lot of rewards points, and those points actually cover the shipping costs for us.
51:27
SPEAKER_01: So, so we end up not actually having to pay shipping.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: So, and I don't even have to use the gas to go to the store to get it or go drive to farms to get it, it just comes right to my door.
51:37
SPEAKER_01: So it's it is um for us, it's worth it, you know, and and I again, we're not paying extra money to have something shipped to us.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: So, so there is a solution.
51:49
SPEAKER_01: There are options for you, even if you don't have a farm right next to you.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: And the more we support, reach out and support all these farms that are not vaccinating, um, the more of those farms are going to um grow, right?
52:03
SPEAKER_01: Because we're pulling our money from the other farms and putting it in these farms that we want to have grow.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: And so we will shift the market that way.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: But okay, I think for now, let's wrap this one up.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: Um we hope this information has not been overwhelming.
52:20
SPEAKER_01: We're trying to go at a slow pace so that um we can all digest and absorb it, no pun intended.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, and really, really just stay um in faith, right?
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Nature will fix this, and there and there are solutions as we just laid out.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: So we're going to dive more into this in the next podcast.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I just don't want anybody to be discouraged because we are all in this together and we are gonna win this in the end.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: Great way to end, uh Cena.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: We'll pick this up, I think, and probably conclude it on a third uh podcast, the next one coming up.
53:01
SPEAKER_01: All right, and we'll we'll see you next week.