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Speaker 1: Kids, it's the Report.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson. Coming up tonight. Anthony Albanezi addresses the un
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Speaker 2: extolling the virtues of climate change action, less than twenty
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Speaker 2: four hours after Donald Trump called the whole thing a
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Speaker 2: con I'll go through all of that with Barnaby Joyce
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Speaker 2: and speaking of climate change, the more we learn about
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Speaker 2: the government's twenty thirty five emissions reduction target, the more
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Speaker 2: unlikely it sounds, or at least not without a lot
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Speaker 2: more government intervention.
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Speaker 3: I'll be joined by Graham Lloyd.
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Speaker 2: Almost eight hundred people have taken up the opportunity afforded
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Speaker 2: by New South Wales gender laws to change their gender
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Speaker 2: on their birth certificate, no surgery or even doctor's advice required.
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Speaker 2: I'll get into that a little later. And the Italian
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Speaker 2: Navy called in after Greta Tunberg claimed so Flotilita Palestine
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Speaker 2: was bombarded by I have a music.
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Speaker 3: Seriously, it's just music. It's not Waterloo. See what I
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Speaker 3: did there. I think my panel will have some fun
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Speaker 3: with that one later.
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Speaker 2: But first, you want to know why the Federal Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party is less popular than a vegan sausage sizzle in
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Speaker 2: North Queensland, and why they're failing to make any inroads
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Speaker 2: at state level around the country.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me show you.
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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, the Victorian Labor government announced that it
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Speaker 2: would introduce a treaty with the state's indigenous population. It's
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Speaker 2: a terrible plan that, if legislated, will effectively create a
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Speaker 2: race based parliament within the state parliament. So I got
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Speaker 2: on this program the State Aboriginal Affairs spokeswoman Melina Bath,
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Speaker 2: and she rightly pointed out on this program that the
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Speaker 2: treaty was a terrible idea, And so I asked her
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Speaker 2: what I thought was a pretty obvious question, would the
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Speaker 2: Victorian Liberals repeal the treaty if they are elected into
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Speaker 2: government next year? This treaty is as bad as you say,
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Speaker 2: and I agree with you. You why wouldn't you just
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Speaker 2: tonight tell all of Victorians you elect us and this
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Speaker 2: treaty will be put in the bin. I mean, surely
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Speaker 2: that's what Victorians would want to hear from a conservative government.
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Speaker 4: I completely agree at this point in time that the
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Speaker 4: reality is we have a process through the Liberals and Nationals.
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Speaker 4: And I'm a process girl, because we need to really
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Speaker 4: ensure that we can.
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Speaker 2: Make How much process do you need for something so?
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Speaker 2: How much process do you need for something so divisive?
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Speaker 4: That's fine, I appreciate it. Invite me back on in
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Speaker 4: two weeks and I'll be able to make all sorts
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Speaker 4: of commitments.
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Speaker 2: Invite me back on in two weeks and I'll be
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Speaker 2: able to make all sorts of commitments. Well, two weeks
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Speaker 2: has gone by, and I invited the Liberal Aboriginal Affairs
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Speaker 2: spokes went back to fill us in on all those commitments.
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Speaker 2: We were advised she was busy tonight and that the
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Speaker 2: process was still underway. So that's the state of the
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Speaker 2: liberals in Victoria. Should we promise to repeal legislation that
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Speaker 2: would permanently divide citizens according to Race?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Let's spend two weeks thinking about it and then think
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Speaker 2: about it some more. We don't want to be too hasty.
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Speaker 2: I'd say they're not hasty enough. And I know a
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Speaker 2: certain Andrew who might agree with me.
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Speaker 3: But I digress.
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Speaker 2: This is modern liberal politics, no decisions, no principles, just
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Speaker 2: the gentle hum of a committee meeting that never ever
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Speaker 2: seems to end. Are we surprised though, that the Victorian
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Speaker 2: Liberals need weeks to decide whether or not they should
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Speaker 2: promise to repeal the treaty. After all, they're just aping
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Speaker 2: their federal colleagues. While Anthony Albinezi was busy lecturing the
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Speaker 2: United Nations today on the need to re engineer society
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Speaker 2: and pursuit of net zero, Opposition leader Susan Lee is
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Speaker 2: still trying to work out whether or not she believes
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Speaker 2: in net zero. The Federal Liberal Party is currently taking
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Speaker 2: twelve months to figure out what they think about an
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Speaker 2: issue that's dominated Australian politics for the best part of
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Speaker 2: it decade. Have listened to what Susan Lee said last
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Speaker 2: week when asked what her energy policy was.
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Speaker 5: Our energy policy is going through a detailed policy development process.
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Speaker 5: That's our energy policy.
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Speaker 2: More broadly, what the Liberals energy policy is going through
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Speaker 2: a detailed policy development process. That's our policy. That's not
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Speaker 2: a policy. She's trying to avoid saying they don't have
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Speaker 2: a policy on the most important issue facing our country,
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Speaker 2: and they wonder why they're tanking in the polls, both
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Speaker 2: federally and in Victoria in the place of a policy
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Speaker 2: where they have a process.
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Speaker 5: We've got a working group led by Dante and he's
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Speaker 5: in the US at the moment, he's studying the latest
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Speaker 5: developments in nuclear and we've got colleagues across our parliament
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Speaker 5: in terms of our parties meeting together and having really
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Speaker 5: detailed informative policy discussions. That work will continue as it should.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so sir, what's your position on zero or nuclear
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Speaker 2: power or the whole Australia as a renewable energy superpower thing.
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Speaker 2: She let us know what she thinks just as soon
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Speaker 2: as the working group lets her know what she thinks,
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Speaker 2: and that will happen. God only knows when Susan Lee,
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Speaker 2: like her Victorian Liberal Aboriginal Affairs spokeswoman, seems desperately afraid
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Speaker 2: of taking a position, and I'll tell you why, because
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Speaker 2: taking a position is what leaders do. Susan Lee prefers
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Speaker 2: the warmer waters of management, and that is a fundamental problem.
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Speaker 2: The Liberal Party doesn't need a manager. It needs someone
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Speaker 2: with conviction, with guts, with spine. It needs a leader
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Speaker 2: who doesn't consult a whiteboard before every media appearance. The
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Speaker 2: last thing the coalition all the nation needs is the
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Speaker 2: sort of politician who'd call for a fact finding mission
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Speaker 2: to determine whether the ship is sinking while standing ankle
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Speaker 2: deep in water on the lower deck. Remember her first
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Speaker 2: speech as Liberal leader back in June. It was an
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Speaker 2: indicator of things to come. She told the National Press
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Speaker 2: Club she was a zalot when it came to getting
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Speaker 2: more women into positions of leadership.
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Speaker 3: Now, zalot is a strong.
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Speaker 2: Word, usually reserved for those on a mission with fire
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Speaker 2: in their belly, but Susan, ever consistent in her inconsistency,
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Speaker 2: immediately wartered it down by next declaring herself agnostic on
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Speaker 2: how to achieve the goal of more women in parliament.
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Speaker 2: Imagine Martin Luther nailing his ninety five thesis to the
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Speaker 2: Wittenberg Church door and then saying, you know, if the
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Speaker 2: Catholics want to keep selling indulgence as well, that's cool too.
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Speaker 2: Having declared herself a zalot for championing women, she told
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Speaker 2: the Press Club.
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Speaker 5: This, If some state divisions choose to implement quotas, that's fine.
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Speaker 6: If others don't, that's also fine.
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Speaker 2: In other words, she's a zalot for more women in
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Speaker 2: the just not so zealous that she'd risk actually.
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Speaker 3: Having a view on how to do it.
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Speaker 2: Lee might be perfectly suited to running a middle tier,
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Speaker 2: hr company or department. But you don't win back government
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Speaker 2: by being agnostic about everything and zealous about nothing. In
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Speaker 2: an age where Australians are crying out for clarity, strength
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Speaker 2: and principle, Lee offers a process, a pathway, and god
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Speaker 2: forbid a PowerPoint presentation. If a coalition hopes to return
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Speaker 2: from the political wilderness, it needs leaders, not facilitators of
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Speaker 2: focus groups. And right now Susan Lee sounds less like
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Speaker 2: the alternative Prime Minister and more like the chair of
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Speaker 2: the catering Committee. I mentioned that the Liberals aren't being
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Speaker 2: hasty in their decisions. Well, we're now being told by
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Speaker 2: sources within the coalition that Andrew Hasty is a threat
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Speaker 2: to Susan Lee's leadership.
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Speaker 3: Lee might be a threat to her position.
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Speaker 2: I agree with that, but he's not a threat to
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Speaker 2: her leadership because you can't threatin what doesn't exist. Andrew Hasty,
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Speaker 2: who has been clearly and succinctly articulating policy positions on
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Speaker 2: everything from energy to manufacturing and immigration, is a threat
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Speaker 2: to Susan Lee's processed, driven managerial style. Now, of course,
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Speaker 2: he told two gb today that he's no threat to
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee.
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Speaker 1: Look I support Susan Anyone who's speculating otherwise is being mischievous.
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Speaker 2: Everyone knows that I support the leader. Typically means you're
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Speaker 2: in the late stages of planning a coup against the leader.
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Speaker 2: But at risk of repeating the joke, let's not be
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Speaker 2: too hasty.
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Speaker 1: My main concern is that the center right is fragmenting.
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Speaker 1: We've seen the rise in the One Nation vote and
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Speaker 1: other micro parties, and having us fragmented on the right
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Speaker 1: is very strategically advantageous for labor. And so I'm simply
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Speaker 1: saying what people out on the street are looking for
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Speaker 1: in their political lifeleadership.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty may very well support Susan Lee, but he's
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Speaker 2: a huge threat to her position, and so he should be.
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Speaker 2: The coalition won't manage themselves back into government, and they
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Speaker 2: won't manage the country back to prosperity. The country needs leadership.
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Speaker 2: And if Susan Lee needs working groups, processes and months
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Speaker 2: of roundtable talk fests before she can work out what
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Speaker 2: a conservative is, well she ain't the Conservative leader even
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Speaker 2: if she's sitting in the big chair. Andrew Hasty is
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Speaker 2: now the Liberal Party leader. He just hasn't been given
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Speaker 2: the position yet. Well, yesterday the United Nations heard heart
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Speaker 2: hitting truths from a leader of international significance.
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Speaker 7: It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world America.
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Speaker 7: I withdrew from the Fake Powers Climate Accord.
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Speaker 2: Today the United Nations heard thirty minutes of waffle from
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Speaker 2: a leader desperate for relevance.
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Speaker 8: Australia is acting to meet the environmental challenge of climate
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Speaker 8: change while working to seize and share the economic opportunities
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Speaker 8: of renewable energy. We will meet our twenty thirty target
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Speaker 8: of forty three percent emissions reduction on two thousand and
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Speaker 8: five levels, and last week we set our target for
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Speaker 8: two thousand and thirty five.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is National's MP Barnaby. Joyce Sparnaby, thanks
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Speaker 2: for coming on the program tonight. Quite the contrast Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump describing climate change as a scam and Anthony Albinezi
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Speaker 2: describing it. He went on to say, an amazing opportunity.
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Speaker 9: Well, let's look at it.
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump was speaking in the room was packed, Our
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Speaker 10: Prime minister was speaking and like as the monitors and
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Speaker 10: a couple of lost people, and I know tourists, and
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Speaker 10: no one cares. That's the problem.
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Speaker 3: No one cares.
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Speaker 10: What Australia really thinks if they did, we'd be able
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Speaker 10: to say to seizing Pen, stop making all those nuclear
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Speaker 10: weapons and aircraft carriers and circumnavigating Australia and looking like
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Speaker 10: you're going to blow us out of the water.
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Speaker 3: And he do it.
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Speaker 10: But of course he doesn't see that. You're seen right there.
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Speaker 10: Now people don't really care what. There's Anthony and Penny
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Speaker 10: listening to the President of the United States, and it's
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Speaker 10: hard to find a seat because everybody is there. And
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Speaker 10: later on Anthony turns up and you could have got
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Speaker 10: a seat in the front row because nobody cares. See.
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Speaker 10: Donald Trump is a real estate salesman. He knows to
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Speaker 10: call bs when he sees it. When he sees the
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Speaker 10: presure salesman up, when he sees the group that you
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Speaker 10: know are goible and about to get their shirt taken
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Speaker 10: off them, Donald Trump knows how to say, see this
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Speaker 10: as a scam. You're gonna get done over, You're gonna
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Speaker 10: get ripped off, and we're really lucky. He says that
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Speaker 10: he build the cat to borrow from Ethip's fables. He
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Speaker 10: belled the cat, and see what happened in that fable?
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Speaker 10: Of course, is none of the mice had the courage
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Speaker 10: to actually put a bell on the cat. But the
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Speaker 10: great thing about Donald Trump, he actually does put a
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Speaker 10: bell on the cat, and he says to you, you're gible,
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Speaker 10: You're a fool. If you get sucked into this, you're
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Speaker 10: going to get hurt, You're going to get ripped off.
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Speaker 10: And I wish our politicians would say that, don't get
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Speaker 10: sucked in, don't be a clown, use your head. That
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Speaker 10: Chris Bowen cannot change that. He really can't, and doesn't
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Speaker 10: matter how much he charges you to do it, it
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Speaker 10: won't happen.
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Speaker 2: But Donald Trump certainly rings a very big bell. But
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Speaker 2: I think it's falling on deaf ears at least as
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Speaker 2: far as our federal labor government goes that. The thing
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you that, though, Barnaby is it
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Speaker 2: seemed to me like Elbin Easy's speech was really a
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Speaker 2: pitch to get a seat on the United Nations Security Council. But,
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Speaker 2: as Greg Sheridan wrote in The Australian Today, non permanent
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Speaker 2: members have next to no influence at all.
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Speaker 10: Really, well, I've got no problems with him having a
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Speaker 10: go at getting on the Security Council.
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Speaker 3: I think, you.
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Speaker 10: Know, look, I'll take my punches where I think people
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Speaker 10: deserve to get them. If he wants to go on
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Speaker 10: the Security Council and get to seat, good luck to you, Anthony,
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Speaker 10: well done. But yeah, you've got to be taken seriously
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Speaker 10: as a global player. And the problem with doing at
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Speaker 10: the moment is we're showing that. We're asking. Europe are
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Speaker 10: smart because this is a non tariff trade barrier with
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Speaker 10: their sort of net zero garbage. But for us, we're
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Speaker 10: just straight out dumb. It was just hurting us, and
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Speaker 10: people are unlikely to vote for dumb people. They generally
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Speaker 10: want a stew hard nose players. I hope we get
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Speaker 10: onto the Security Council, I really do.
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Speaker 3: I don't think we will.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, they're touting for is to
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Speaker 2: host the Climate conference in.
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Speaker 3: Adelaide next year. They're working very hard with that.
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen is talking to the First Lady of Turkey
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Speaker 2: trying to twist her arm to see if they would
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Speaker 2: drop their bid. Why is this so important for the government.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they are fixated on hosting this event.
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Speaker 10: It is outrageous. It looks a billionaires fan club. You
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Speaker 10: got to understand when they do this thing, this cop thing.
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Speaker 10: They all they want them to fly and to have
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Speaker 10: laid all the billionaires and their corporate jets and hangars
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Speaker 10: on us, and they'll be you know, none of them
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Speaker 10: will be living net zero. I can assure you that
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Speaker 10: that's for us, dumb bucks to be living dead net zero.
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Speaker 10: They'll just flying on multiple, multiple hundred times carbon emissions
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Speaker 10: and they'll, you know, the best thing you'd have is
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Speaker 10: some Georgia Marney shops and some you know past Nick
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Speaker 10: pass Ballei will go very well with his pearls that
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Speaker 10: weekend and you know, some bling lots of bling bling salesman.
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Speaker 10: They'll be big there because it's just a big party.
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Speaker 10: It's a party for the uber rich. We're talking about
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Speaker 10: billionaires party, not a millionaire's party. They won't even be
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Speaker 10: able to buy a motel room. It's a billionaires fling.
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Speaker 10: And it shows you how what a complete joke, a
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Speaker 10: complete corruption of the principle of trying to do anything effective.
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Speaker 10: This whole process is why on earth we wanted. God
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Speaker 10: only knows, but I hope it actually does turn up
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Speaker 10: because it gives me a chance to absolutely bucket on
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Speaker 10: them for the absolute hypocrites.
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Speaker 2: They are well I think we know why they want
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Speaker 2: to host this conference. We've been watching them sort of
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Speaker 2: strutting around at the General Assembly of the United Nations
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Speaker 2: and at the various events in New York, and clearly
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Speaker 2: they're enjoying mixing with the world's elite. The Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: was also vocal at the New York Climate Summer China's
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Speaker 2: about China's need to go harder on cutting emissions.
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Speaker 3: Here, he was it is.
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Speaker 11: Good that there is progress being made. We of course
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Speaker 11: would like there to be more, but it is a
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Speaker 11: step forward. And indeed China has seeded its previous targets.
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Speaker 3: Is China what China has announced is it enough?
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Speaker 11: No, Well, we would like to see them do more,
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Speaker 11: and we'd like to see new coal fire power plants
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Speaker 11: not open, but it is a step forward.
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Speaker 2: He's a lot more encouraging of China than he is
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Speaker 2: of the United States. I must say, Beijing is pledged
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Speaker 2: to cut emissions.
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Speaker 3: By seven percent.
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Speaker 2: What difference will China cutting emissions by seven percent make?
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Speaker 9: Anthony Anthony, Anthony.
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Speaker 10: They're hoping up a new coal fire power plane every
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Speaker 10: four days. It is insane. I mean, Australia could listen.
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Speaker 10: We're trying to put ourselves into a cave, and we
16:42
Speaker 10: look like we're going to do it. The only scary
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Speaker 10: thing about that is we won't be able to defend ourselves,
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Speaker 10: and that is totally terrifying. But even when we put
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Speaker 10: ourselves into a cave, it's only going to be a
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Speaker 10: very small period of time, and just the emissions China
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Speaker 10: will create in that small period of time, it's more
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Speaker 10: than the whole of Australia creates.
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Speaker 9: So this is ridiculous, is the seasing, Because a toss
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Speaker 9: about what Anthony Albaneze says about trying to take there,
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Speaker 9: you know the last two hundred and fifty million peasants.
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Speaker 10: Out of poverty in China. They're going to look after
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Speaker 10: the China's going to look after the Chinese there, But
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Speaker 10: there's the telegram China's going to look after the Chinese
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Speaker 10: And if that means building a Cofi upoustation every four days,
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Speaker 10: that's precisely what they're going to do. If they If
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Speaker 10: they think you're dumb enough to hear them saying we're
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Speaker 10: making a pledge. We're making a pledge, We're making a
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Speaker 10: pledge to reduce carbons, Well, I suppose you're dumb enough
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Speaker 10: to believe it, but you know, don't be so gullible.
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Speaker 12: That's basically what Trump's saying, don't be so gullible, don't
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Speaker 12: be so dope, and you know, you know he wants
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Speaker 12: trying to do more. Do you honestly think that even
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Speaker 12: made a brief diseasing ping?
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Speaker 10: By the way, in a sit down, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 10: of Australia said, gee, you're a naughty boy. Hans the
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Speaker 10: Boys says, you're a naughty boy and you've got reduce
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Speaker 10: carbon emissions. Even does anybody, any of your listeners even
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Speaker 10: vaguely think that happened.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that did not happen.
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Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce, always great to talk to you, Thanks so
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Speaker 2: much well. The Albineezy Government's twenty thirty five emissions reduction
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Speaker 2: target that Elbow's been boasting about at the UN is
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Speaker 2: looking increasingly difficult to achieve before they've even begun. Though.
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Speaker 2: That's the great thing about setting targets that are ten
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Speaker 2: years out. You can boast about them now and you'll
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Speaker 2: be long gone by the time they come due. The
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Speaker 2: Climate Change Authority says half of all new cars sold
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Speaker 2: over the next ten years would need to be electric
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Speaker 2: and wind farms would need to quadruple in order for
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Speaker 2: the government to reach its target. The only problem is
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Speaker 2: we're not anywhere near fifty percent of new cars being evs,
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Speaker 2: and the wind sector well, if you'll excuse me, seems.
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Speaker 3: To have run out of puff.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is the Australian's Environment editor Graham Lloyd Graham.
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Speaker 2: Not one energy company has committed to fund a new
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Speaker 2: wind farm this year. We need to quadruple the number
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Speaker 2: of wind farms. We're clearly not going to make it.
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Speaker 2: But what's going on? Why is no one funding them?
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Speaker 13: Well, there's a couple of things going on, James, and
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Speaker 13: it's a really awkward situation that we are increasing our
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Speaker 13: ambition and slowing down our rollout of the things that
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Speaker 13: are going to help us supposedly meet it. And the
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Speaker 13: two factors most of play. One is the costs of
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Speaker 13: wind construction is rising. The return doesn't look so good.
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Speaker 13: Getting finance to build them is more difficult because basically
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Speaker 13: finances see less risk funding solar panels and batteries, which
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Speaker 13: might do something, but they don't do the same thing
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Speaker 13: as wind. The other thing that's happening is that there's
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Speaker 13: a slow down in the construction of the transmission lines.
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Speaker 13: And without the transmission lines, there's no real business case
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Speaker 13: to build. A lot of these weren't when turbine factories
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Speaker 13: that are being proposed, Unfortunately for taxpayers, both require the
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Speaker 13: government to get in there with the financing. The companies
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Speaker 13: are waiting for a scheme that will guarantee their profitability
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Speaker 13: regardless of the price they get for the power, and
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Speaker 13: on the transmission lines, increasingly the call is, look, you've
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Speaker 13: got to actually turn to compulsory acquisition, another punit of
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Speaker 13: measures to get these things done.
20:32
Speaker 2: And you segue beautifully to my next point talking about
20:36
Speaker 2: the need for government intervention on a grand scale to
20:39
Speaker 2: get anywhere near achieving these targets. I mentioned eb sales
20:43
Speaker 2: needing to be at fifty percent.
20:45
Speaker 3: They're currently at ten.
20:46
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has said the government won't intervene in the
20:49
Speaker 2: market already than they already have, but there's no way
20:52
Speaker 2: they can achieve even that target. I wouldn't have thought
20:55
Speaker 2: without intervention.
20:58
Speaker 13: Well, the car industry saying, look, they're finding great consumer
21:02
Speaker 13: resistance to purchasing evs. That's despite the number of available
21:08
Speaker 13: models increasing and the price coming down to an extent
21:13
Speaker 13: the experience overseas and particularly in Norway, which has been
21:19
Speaker 13: highlighted by the climate authorities that the way they got
21:25
Speaker 13: people to buy evs is they tax the hell out
21:28
Speaker 13: of normal cars and make them so expensive that the
21:30
Speaker 13: evs look good. The government has a mechanism to do that,
21:34
Speaker 13: why with its sort of averaging of emissions across the
21:38
Speaker 13: vehicle fleet, which ultimately, if they're not selling many evs,
21:43
Speaker 13: they're going to make everything else more expensive to compensate.
21:47
Speaker 2: So all of this then begs the question why has
21:50
Speaker 2: the government set and emissions? So you're going to set
21:52
Speaker 2: an emissions reduction target, OK, let's just go with that
21:55
Speaker 2: for a moment. But if you're going to set a target,
21:57
Speaker 2: why set one that is so obviously difficult nigh impossible
22:02
Speaker 2: to achieve.
22:06
Speaker 13: Well, this is the big debate, and other countries have
22:09
Speaker 13: worked it out. Look best to stick with net zero
22:12
Speaker 13: by twenty fifty because it's far enough away into the distance.
22:16
Speaker 13: Countries are obliged to increase their ambition every five years
22:20
Speaker 13: as part of the Paris Agreement process. But Australia has chosen,
22:25
Speaker 13: for whatever reason, to take a pretty tough target, harder
22:30
Speaker 13: than most other places. And I think it's all part
22:33
Speaker 13: of the geopolitic of sort of getting into the UN
22:37
Speaker 13: process and wanting to hold a cop and wanting to
22:41
Speaker 13: rebrand Australia as doing the right thing in this area.
22:45
Speaker 13: But it's going to come ultimately at either failure or
22:48
Speaker 13: huge cost.
22:50
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on you just mentioned
22:52
Speaker 2: the UN. Jijingping addressed the Climate summit after Donald Trump
22:58
Speaker 2: had described the whole climate thing is a scam, and
23:02
Speaker 2: then Jixingping gets up there from China and he encourages
23:06
Speaker 2: the nations of the world, don't lose faith, keep your confidence,
23:09
Speaker 2: stay the course in your commitment to zero.
23:12
Speaker 3: Do you think Jijingping is.
23:14
Speaker 2: Worried about global boiling or might that have been a
23:17
Speaker 2: little more self observing.
23:21
Speaker 13: Well, look, China does produce twenty five percent of the
23:25
Speaker 13: world's emissions. It was an interesting declaration that he made
23:30
Speaker 13: that they will try and reduce emissions by seven to
23:33
Speaker 13: ten percent from their peak. But what you have to
23:36
Speaker 13: understand is China may not have peaked. China has no
23:40
Speaker 13: obligation to peak at submissions until the end of this decade,
23:44
Speaker 13: so where that number actually ends up is as uncertain
23:47
Speaker 13: today as it was yesterday.
23:50
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, of course, Graham, is that China
23:53
Speaker 2: are selling renewable whether it's solar panels or winter They're
24:00
Speaker 2: selling the infrastructure to the world. So are we really
24:03
Speaker 2: surprised that Jijingping says keep going, keep going for net zero?
24:07
Speaker 3: I mean China absolutely yep.
24:12
Speaker 13: And this is the point that Donald Trump was making.
24:15
Speaker 13: This is a financial reorientation of global business, and it's
24:20
Speaker 13: really shifting into China's favor because they are the manufacturing
24:26
Speaker 13: center for the world and they will be supplying these
24:29
Speaker 13: things that we're repeatedly told is that the next industrial
24:34
Speaker 13: revolution exactly.
24:37
Speaker 2: I felt like Jijingping actually proved Trump's point with that
24:42
Speaker 2: encouragement to World LEAs, which was as transparent as glad wrap.
24:47
Speaker 2: Graham Lloyd, thanks for joining me tonight. Appreciate it well.
24:50
Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, hundreds of people in the
24:52
Speaker 2: state of New South Wales changed sex on their birth certificates.
24:56
Speaker 2: That's just in the last three months. Rachel Wong will
24:59
Speaker 2: join me in a moment.
25:04
Speaker 4: Well.
25:04
Speaker 2: New South Wales Labour MPs declared July first a special
25:08
Speaker 2: day in the New South Wales Parliament. Why well, because
25:11
Speaker 2: from July first, New South welshmen were able to walk
25:15
Speaker 2: into a registry, looked the board clerk squarely in the eye,
25:18
Speaker 2: and changed gender on their birth certificate to be female.
25:21
Speaker 2: They were able to do it without presenting a single
25:24
Speaker 2: medical document, psychological report, or even so much as a strategically.
25:28
Speaker 3: Placed band aid.
25:29
Speaker 2: That's right, no surgery required, no diagnosis necessary, just the
25:33
Speaker 2: desire to be recognized as a woman and man oh man,
25:38
Speaker 2: no pun intended.
25:39
Speaker 3: Has it been popular?
25:40
Speaker 2: In just three months, more than seven hundred people have
25:44
Speaker 2: changed their birth certificate to say the exact opposite of
25:47
Speaker 2: how they were born. Joining me now, as Women's Forum
25:50
Speaker 2: Australia Chief Executive Rachel Wong.
25:52
Speaker 3: Rachel, thanks for coming on the program.
25:54
Speaker 2: Just give us a breakdown on the statistics over the
25:58
Speaker 2: last three months since this law was introduced in New
26:00
Speaker 2: South Wales. Is it mostly men identifying as women or
26:04
Speaker 2: is there a mix?
26:05
Speaker 3: What are the numbers?
26:06
Speaker 7: Saying?
26:08
Speaker 6: Good evening, James, great to join you. So, as you said,
26:10
Speaker 6: over seven hundred people have applied to change their legal
26:12
Speaker 6: six in just the past three months since the laws
26:15
Speaker 6: have changed in New South Wales. That's over five hundred
26:18
Speaker 6: men and sorry, I'm just under five hundred men and
26:21
Speaker 6: just over two hundred women, so nearly double the number
26:24
Speaker 6: of men have changed to apply applied to change sex
26:27
Speaker 6: to female, then vice versa. But as my friend Sargove
26:31
Speaker 6: mentioned today, the interesting thing is is that the data
26:34
Speaker 6: that has been shared is still sex base, which shows
26:37
Speaker 6: you really can't get away from biological reality.
26:40
Speaker 3: Though.
26:40
Speaker 6: The question is going forward, how is that data going
26:43
Speaker 6: to be recorded in critical state data collection like crime,
26:46
Speaker 6: like health and so on? Are men going to be
26:48
Speaker 6: recorded as women? I'd suggest they probably will be.
26:53
Speaker 2: Does it concern you that so many men? It's about
26:56
Speaker 2: sixty five percent. I think of those who have changed
26:59
Speaker 2: their gender on their birth certificate in New South Wales
27:02
Speaker 2: over the last three months, about sixty five percent I
27:04
Speaker 2: think men. Does it concern you so many men have
27:08
Speaker 2: sought to identify as female in such a short space
27:11
Speaker 2: of time.
27:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, James, I think it's actually quite alarming. That's
27:16
Speaker 6: nearly five hundred men who now have the right to
27:19
Speaker 6: be considered women for all legal intents and purposes, so
27:23
Speaker 6: they can have access to femal only spaces, female only sports,
27:26
Speaker 6: female only services. With our restriction up until now, you've
27:30
Speaker 6: been able to identify as the opposite six but now
27:33
Speaker 6: you can legally be the opposite sex. So you are
27:37
Speaker 6: the same in law as a woman if you change
27:39
Speaker 6: your player sex from male to female. So that's dearly
27:42
Speaker 6: concerning for women's rights and safety.
27:44
Speaker 2: And these laws assume that biological differences can be raised
27:49
Speaker 2: with the stroke of a clerk's pen. But if you
27:52
Speaker 2: can change your birth certificate to say something other than
27:55
Speaker 2: how you were born, of what value then is a
27:58
Speaker 2: birth certificate?
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Speaker 6: It's absolutely no value at all. I mean, if you
28:02
Speaker 6: can falsify your birth certificate and you can line your
28:04
Speaker 6: birth certificate, then it has absolutely no value. But I
28:07
Speaker 6: will just say that equally concerning in terms of the
28:12
Speaker 6: restoring and girls in terms of the falsification of birth
28:14
Speaker 6: certificates is that this is nearly eight hundred individuals who
28:17
Speaker 6: are now not getting the psychological help they need because
28:20
Speaker 6: they are being further radicalized by the government into accepting
28:23
Speaker 6: gender ideology. So I think that's also very concerning.
28:27
Speaker 2: Now, Equality of Australia have said that people don't change
28:30
Speaker 2: their gender on a whim, and so you know the
28:33
Speaker 2: fact that so many people have changed their gender in
28:37
Speaker 2: such a short space of time. These are people who've
28:40
Speaker 2: been thinking about it for a long time. And finally
28:42
Speaker 2: the law was changed. And that may well be true.
28:45
Speaker 2: But one of the strange things about the New South
28:47
Speaker 2: Wales law is that it allows you to change gender
28:51
Speaker 2: as many times as you like.
28:53
Speaker 3: Now in New South Wales.
28:54
Speaker 2: You can change your name three times then they say enough,
28:59
Speaker 2: but you can change your gender as many times as
29:03
Speaker 2: you want.
29:04
Speaker 6: It is just absolutely ridiculous. The fact that you can
29:07
Speaker 6: change back and forward, back and forward just makes even
29:09
Speaker 6: more of a mockery of the situation than it already is.
29:13
Speaker 6: I mean, Australia has just become a complete back order
29:15
Speaker 6: on this issue. Places like the US and the UK
29:17
Speaker 6: are making huge strides when it comes to women, sex
29:19
Speaker 6: spase rights and recognizing biological reality. And here we are
29:22
Speaker 6: down here just strenking the call aid and you know,
29:25
Speaker 6: people like Quality Australia. The government can say, oh, this
29:28
Speaker 6: is just a pent up you know demand from all
29:30
Speaker 6: this time people have been waiting for. But one, how
29:32
Speaker 6: do they know that?
29:33
Speaker 14: Two?
29:34
Speaker 6: If gener idiology continues to be pumped out through the
29:37
Speaker 6: media and the education system like it is, I accept
29:39
Speaker 6: those numbers to rise significantly and Victoria over the last
29:42
Speaker 6: I think nearly five years, there's been nearly three thousand
29:45
Speaker 6: people changing their sex and their birth certificates, and at
29:48
Speaker 6: the end of the day, one is too many. One
29:50
Speaker 6: person enshrining in law a lie is too many.
29:54
Speaker 2: And Rachel, I know typically you approach this issue from
29:58
Speaker 2: a position of women rights, but I just want to
30:01
Speaker 2: ask you about a legal battle in Melbourne where a
30:04
Speaker 2: Catholic school teacher is fighting for the right to be
30:07
Speaker 2: called MUX. I think that's how you say. It's spelled
30:09
Speaker 2: MX rather than mister. The man says he's neither a
30:13
Speaker 2: man nor a woman, but non binary, and he wants
30:15
Speaker 2: the Christian school to recognize him that way. So the
30:19
Speaker 2: court will be asked to decide whether or not a
30:21
Speaker 2: religious school can discriminate on the basis of gender identity.
30:27
Speaker 2: I suppose if the gender that you have chosen is
30:30
Speaker 2: now on your birth certificate, it would be very difficult
30:34
Speaker 2: for anyone to discriminate against that, because well, someone's got
30:38
Speaker 2: a birth certificate. Now. I've got no idea whether you're
30:40
Speaker 2: religious or not. But what are your views on that situation?
30:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, I think firstly, I don't think this is
30:46
Speaker 6: a real case of discrimination. This man hasn't lost his job.
30:48
Speaker 6: He's not claiming, you know, that he's been put back
30:51
Speaker 6: in terms of his career progression. He is wanting to
30:55
Speaker 6: enforce his fictitious view on his employer, knowing full well
30:59
Speaker 6: that the Catholic Church still is in line with reality
31:03
Speaker 6: that no one can be born on the wrong body.
31:05
Speaker 6: And so I think, you know, this is not not
31:08
Speaker 6: the same thing as what discrimination normally is. And I
31:11
Speaker 6: think you know, Catholic or not, religious or not, no
31:14
Speaker 6: one should be forced to participate in a lie. And
31:16
Speaker 6: this is what will be happening to students and teachers
31:19
Speaker 6: at that school if they are forced to call him
31:21
Speaker 6: Marx or mix or MX or whatever other ridiculous thing
31:24
Speaker 6: it is. And you know, you can see why the
31:26
Speaker 6: church and why the school doesn't want this harmful ideology
31:29
Speaker 6: being foisted upon young people.
31:31
Speaker 3: Indeed, Rachel want thanks so much for your time tonight.
31:33
Speaker 2: Well, coming up after the break, the Italian Navy called
31:36
Speaker 2: in after Greta Tunberg claimed so flotilla to Palestine was
31:40
Speaker 2: bombarded by having music and Donald Trump's latest troll of
31:44
Speaker 2: Joe Biden But is it appropriate all of that and
31:47
Speaker 2: more with my panel in just a moment. Well, as
31:53
Speaker 2: you know, our politicians have been busy in New York
31:55
Speaker 2: rubbing shoulders with various big hitters from around the world,
31:59
Speaker 2: but of course it all starts with albanezy selfie with
32:02
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and then Ambassador Kevin Rudd got a cuddle
32:05
Speaker 2: from California lefty Governor Gavin Newsom as Chris Bowen watched
32:09
Speaker 2: on awkwardly, perhaps hoping he'd get a turn. But it
32:12
Speaker 2: was this picture that I think is particularly interesting as
32:16
Speaker 2: Australian and US delegates met for a climate meeting. Now,
32:20
Speaker 2: look at the four flags at the back against the wall.
32:24
Speaker 2: On the far left is the single universal American flag,
32:27
Speaker 2: and on the right you've got the Australian flag, the
32:30
Speaker 2: Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait Islander flag joining me
32:34
Speaker 2: as Sky News contributors James Bolt and Evelyn Ray, James,
32:38
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware that our government now carries three flags
32:42
Speaker 2: wherever they go all over the world. Were you aware
32:44
Speaker 2: that that was happening.
32:45
Speaker 15: I wasn't aware. And look, I think they're doing this
32:48
Speaker 15: for good hearted reasons. I think they're trying to make
32:51
Speaker 15: profound statements that speak to their ideologies. But at the
32:54
Speaker 15: same time, it puts out an image of Australia that
32:58
Speaker 15: makes me feel a bit queasy, which is a nation divided. Like,
33:01
Speaker 15: if we can't have one single flag that we can
33:03
Speaker 15: all rally behind, then how do we have like a
33:06
Speaker 15: unified country, right social cohesion. It's such a big talking
33:09
Speaker 15: point this week, but we can't have a symbol that
33:11
Speaker 15: unites a country.
33:13
Speaker 2: Absolutely and evil and I would have thought it's kind
33:16
Speaker 2: of confusing for people internationally. I mean, you see the
33:19
Speaker 2: American flag, you know exactly what it is, but then
33:22
Speaker 2: what are the other three flags? One of them is that,
33:25
Speaker 2: I mean it's confusing.
33:27
Speaker 10: Yeah.
33:28
Speaker 14: Look, I actually don't think we can overlook just how
33:31
Speaker 14: divisive this display actually is, because what it's saying is
33:35
Speaker 14: that the Australian flag doesn't represent everyone. You know, that Aboriginals,
33:40
Speaker 14: that Torres Strait Islanders perhaps are not real Australians. At
33:43
Speaker 14: least it might come across that way to people, you know,
33:46
Speaker 14: across the pond. You know, it's sort of implying a
33:50
Speaker 14: message that they are not part of our nation in
33:53
Speaker 14: the same way that the descendants and settlers of convicts are.
33:58
Speaker 14: You know, they have their own flag, they have their
34:00
Speaker 14: own symbol. I mean, what's next, their own drinking fountain.
34:03
Speaker 14: This is how ridiculous.
34:04
Speaker 10: It is.
34:05
Speaker 14: You know, the Australian flag should not represent some, it
34:09
Speaker 14: should represent all and more than confusing, I think it's
34:13
Speaker 14: really unhelpful. Like James said, you know that this at
34:17
Speaker 14: the moment, you know, we are so divided as a nation.
34:21
Speaker 14: It's unhelpful doing things like this. We have so many
34:24
Speaker 14: problems that we need to deal with. Nations within nations
34:28
Speaker 14: will never and can never work, and putting that message
34:31
Speaker 14: forward on the world stage is a little bit embarrassing
34:33
Speaker 14: as well.
34:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, you're absolutely right, and I think you're
34:37
Speaker 2: right James, that they're literally waiving their ideology everywhere they
34:41
Speaker 2: go with this stuff.
34:42
Speaker 3: It's just incredible.
34:43
Speaker 2: Italy has sent a navy boat to assist Greta Tunberg
34:47
Speaker 2: in a moment of need. Her pro Palestine flotilla headed
34:50
Speaker 2: for Gaza. Reports that it's been attacked overnight in the Mediterranean.
34:55
Speaker 3: And I know you're wondering what sort of attacks. Well,
34:57
Speaker 3: activists are reported that.
34:58
Speaker 2: Someone had hacked into the ship's radios and just started
35:03
Speaker 2: playing abba music at full volume. James, you're laughing. I
35:07
Speaker 2: will be radioing for assistance as well.
35:09
Speaker 3: I know.
35:10
Speaker 15: Look, this is an aggressive new marketing strategy for the
35:13
Speaker 15: floatiller that I think they should really embrace. I mean,
35:17
Speaker 15: you know, a float tiller full of activists go out
35:20
Speaker 15: of Timberg's, they're heading to Gaza. It's a bit of
35:22
Speaker 15: a buzzkill. But you throw Abba in. Suddenly we're talking
35:25
Speaker 15: Mediterranean crews, and I think that is a way you
35:28
Speaker 15: can really attract a bit more global attention, a bit
35:31
Speaker 15: more peace and love, and even some conservatives can come
35:34
Speaker 15: along to you, because who doesn't love Abbat.
35:36
Speaker 2: I think you take a little bit more than Abba
35:39
Speaker 2: to get conservatives on that floptilla. But you make a
35:42
Speaker 2: joke of it, and I think appropriately because Everylyn, the
35:45
Speaker 2: whole thing.
35:46
Speaker 3: Is a bit of a joke, isn't it.
35:48
Speaker 14: Oh Look, Greta is honestly a caricature of herself at
35:52
Speaker 14: this point in time. Nobody takes her seriously. But I
35:55
Speaker 14: think it's these exact stunts that she relies on to
35:59
Speaker 14: keep her in the news, you know. I mean there
36:01
Speaker 14: are plenty of issues back in her homeland of Sweden
36:05
Speaker 14: that she could be you know, addressing, such as mass immigration,
36:09
Speaker 14: all of the migrant crimes, abortion, you name it. The
36:12
Speaker 14: list is endless, but she doesn't actually care about any
36:16
Speaker 14: of those things does she because you know what, those
36:18
Speaker 14: things don't give her global coverage. You know, they don't
36:21
Speaker 14: give her a Netflix documentary series, or celebrity status or
36:25
Speaker 14: a book deal. You know, Greta needs desperately, apart from
36:29
Speaker 14: a new hairdresser, a good dose of reality. I don't
36:33
Speaker 14: think ABBA's going to give it to her. I don't
36:35
Speaker 14: think this little cruise is going to give it to her.
36:37
Speaker 14: And unfortunately, I think that all of us here across
36:41
Speaker 14: the world who are normal are going to have to
36:44
Speaker 14: witness more and more of these ridiculous stunts the more
36:47
Speaker 14: that we keep giving her airtime. I'm sorry, but Abba
36:50
Speaker 14: is only the beginning. It's going to end up far worse.
36:53
Speaker 2: I think I just wanted in terms of Greta's motivation,
36:57
Speaker 2: whether money, money, money might be involved somewhere, or maybe that's.
37:01
Speaker 15: Just the I thinking to damn it stopped out Waterloo
37:05
Speaker 15: moment I.
37:06
Speaker 3: Did that gag earlier.
37:07
Speaker 2: Actually, oh there you go, yeah, there you go, so
37:09
Speaker 2: clear you were watching earlier, James and or you're stealing
37:11
Speaker 2: my jokes. Donald Trump told people at Charlie Kirk's funeral
37:16
Speaker 2: that he really doesn't like his enemies and he's taken
37:19
Speaker 2: a brutal swipe at his predecessor, Joe Biden in a
37:22
Speaker 2: newly unveiled White House Walk of fame. It features a
37:25
Speaker 2: series of gold framed photographs of past US presidents, but
37:29
Speaker 2: the portrait of what should be Joe Biden is instead
37:32
Speaker 2: a photo of an auto pen. This is poking fun
37:36
Speaker 2: at the claim Joe Biden repeatedly used the autopen to
37:38
Speaker 2: sign things, making signatures, particularly on pardons invalid. All right, James,
37:45
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you. I think this is funny,
37:48
Speaker 2: but is it right?
37:50
Speaker 15: It is funny and it's not right. But what I
37:51
Speaker 15: love about this story is the autopen controversy was all about, Okay,
37:55
Speaker 15: who's millly in charge?
37:56
Speaker 10: Here?
37:57
Speaker 15: Is Joe Biden in charge? Or are the people around
37:59
Speaker 15: Joe Biden in When I look at that, I can
38:02
Speaker 15: say for certainty that Donald Trump is in charge of
38:04
Speaker 15: the White House because only that, like, only this kind
38:07
Speaker 15: of stunt can come from one man, and it's Donald Trump.
38:09
Speaker 15: No one else has the audacity to come up with,
38:12
Speaker 15: let's replace an important portrait of Joe Biden with a scandal.
38:17
Speaker 15: So Trump, like we know, this is a president. He
38:20
Speaker 15: is in full control of his.
38:21
Speaker 3: Agenda, absolutely. We're watching it again there.
38:24
Speaker 2: It is pretty funny when you're going through all the
38:26
Speaker 2: portraits and then you get to that.
38:28
Speaker 3: Evlon. I've got a theory about Donald Trump.
38:31
Speaker 2: The guy is able to smash things, but the person
38:34
Speaker 2: who smashes things is almost never a uniter. And I
38:37
Speaker 2: actually don't think Trump levertt bring America together. I think
38:40
Speaker 2: he'll destroy the hold of leftist ideology, but then someone
38:43
Speaker 2: else will have to come along after him to unite
38:46
Speaker 2: the country.
38:47
Speaker 3: Do you think that's fair?
38:49
Speaker 14: Yes, Look, I do think there is truth to that,
38:52
Speaker 14: you know, But I think it's important to remember that
38:54
Speaker 14: he was elected you know, on a unified platform. He
38:58
Speaker 14: was cooperating with Rfk, who's Democrat, with Tulcy Gabbard who
39:02
Speaker 14: is a Democrat, and with Elon Musk, until about five
39:04
Speaker 14: minutes ago, was a Democrat.
39:06
Speaker 1: You know.
39:06
Speaker 14: I think the problem isn't necessarily all Trump, you know.
39:10
Speaker 14: I think it's the left starting to believe their own
39:14
Speaker 14: lies about him. They have literally demonized him so much
39:19
Speaker 14: and convinced Democrats or anyone who is not a Republican
39:23
Speaker 14: that Trump is the literal enemy of America. I think
39:27
Speaker 14: under previous you know, presidents Republicans and Democrats. They've always
39:30
Speaker 14: been able to come together, you know, and unite under
39:33
Speaker 14: the American flag for you know, like a joined enemy
39:38
Speaker 14: like they especially after we saw nine to eleven, you
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Speaker 14: had Democrats and Republicans come together in the wake of
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Speaker 14: that and move forward united. But I think that that's
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Speaker 14: almost impossible under Trump because of what I previously mentioned,
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Speaker 14: which is that they see the enemy as not an
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Speaker 14: exterior threat now but in an interior threat, and they think
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Speaker 14: that it's Trump. He's literally the devil and they're out
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Speaker 14: to get him. So of course they're not going to
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Speaker 14: unify under that. But look, I just have to say
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Speaker 14: about the you know, the photo frame there. He is
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Speaker 14: the troll King and it is because of that that
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Speaker 14: he will smash the leftist ideology. And I think that's
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Speaker 14: an important tool for us to have right now. And
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Speaker 14: I would love to have a troll King of Australia.
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Speaker 14: So James, if you would like to volunteer, I will
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Speaker 14: fully support you with that mission.
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Speaker 2: I'm just not sure which James you're talking to. We've
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Speaker 2: got thirty seconds left, dog give you the last word, James.
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Speaker 2: You know, ridicule and mockery is a great way of
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Speaker 2: destroying arguments and Trump is whether appropriate or not, he
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Speaker 2: makes his point through humor repeatedly. It's pretty rare actually
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Speaker 2: for politicians.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's definitely rare for politicians. You know. You think
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Speaker 15: back to Winston Churchill is probably the last leader and
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Speaker 15: they could really punch someone and lead Don Trum's got
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Speaker 15: the punch. A bit worried about the lead. Definitely not
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Speaker 15: a Churchill figure, but I think yeah, the next guy
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Speaker 15: will hopefully be a bit more unifying.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, James Evan, thanks so much for joining me on
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Speaker 2: the program tonight.
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Speaker 3: We'll coming up.
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Speaker 2: A fresh war of words has broken out between Sadiq
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Speaker 2: Khan and Donald Trump. Patrick Christie's will join me from
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Speaker 2: London to explain that in just a moment. Well, joining
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Speaker 2: me live from the UK is gb News host Patrick Christie's.
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Speaker 3: Patrick, welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: I want to get your take on the spat between
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Speaker 2: London Mayor Sadiq Khan, who slammed Donald Trump over comments
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Speaker 2: he made at the UN about Britain being in danger
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Speaker 2: of having Sharia law introduced.
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Speaker 3: Here's what Trump said, and.
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Speaker 7: I have to say, I look at London, where you
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Speaker 7: have a terrible mayor, terrible, terrible mayor, and it's been
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Speaker 7: so changed, so changed. Now they want to go to
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Speaker 7: sharia law, but you're in a different country. You can't
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Speaker 7: do that. Both the immigration and their suicidal energy ideas
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Speaker 7: will be the death of Western Europe. If something is
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Speaker 7: not done immediately, they cannot This can not be sustained.
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Speaker 3: And here's the London Mayor's response.
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Speaker 16: I appear to be living rent free inside Don Trump's head.
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Speaker 16: I think you know. President Trump has shown he is racist,
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Speaker 16: he is sexist, and he is misogynistic, and he's a slamophoby.
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Speaker 3: Well Patrick, no love lost between these two.
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Speaker 2: But putting aside their mutual dislike of each other, who's right.
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Speaker 17: Well, President Trump is more right than the mayor of London.
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Speaker 17: It's Trump versus carn Round five hundred and eighty six.
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Speaker 17: Trump also mentioned about crime being up, or shoplifting, possession
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Speaker 17: of a weapon, sexual offenses, they're all up, graffiti. If
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Speaker 17: you look around this city, it looks like Banksy had
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Speaker 17: a stroke and then went mental with a paint can.
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Speaker 17: Drugs offenses are up. The whole city smells like Bob
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Speaker 17: Marley's house. On Sharia law, well, Britain is actually the
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Speaker 17: Western capital for sharia courts. We have eighty four Sharia
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Speaker 17: courts at the last camp. Forced marriage is up. We've
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Speaker 17: got a lot of cousin marriage going on. Also Sadik
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Speaker 17: Kharn's response, it was just playing Bengo, wasn't it? Racist? Sexist,
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Speaker 17: is Lamophobic, misogynists? All we needed for the full house
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Speaker 17: is and to call him truans phobic. Maybe he's going
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Speaker 17: to save that for the next one. But Sadik Khan
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Speaker 17: will never know how unpopular he really is because he
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Speaker 17: turns the comments off on all of his social media posts.
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Speaker 17: And I wonder why that is.
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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine. Patrick haven't got a clue. Keir Starmer's
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Speaker 2: much trumpeted answer to immigration problems is the so called
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Speaker 2: one in one out deal with France, and that's begun.
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Speaker 2: A family of three asylum seekers have come to Britain
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Speaker 2: in exchange for four migrants who crossed the channel being
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Speaker 2: flown back to France.
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Speaker 3: It almost adds up.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of beth Mine isn't great, but one in one
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Speaker 2: out doesn't seem to me like a plan to reduce
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Speaker 2: the number of migrants in Britain.
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Speaker 17: No, Look, you don't need to be rain Man to
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Speaker 17: fix these numbers out do you really one in one
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Speaker 17: out so far is meant at least two thousand in
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Speaker 17: and four people out.
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Speaker 3: One of the people that we.
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Speaker 17: Removed was an Indian man who we sent to France
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Speaker 17: so France could deport him back to India. I mean,
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Speaker 17: he's a little bit bonkers all of this, isn't it.
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Speaker 17: And now we've accepted a family of three and the
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Speaker 17: government says that this sends a clear message to people' smotherers.
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Speaker 17: Well it does. It says that Britain is wide open.
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Speaker 17: But I mean, as you're about to tell us, I
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Speaker 17: think in the next topic, it's by no means the
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Speaker 17: most fascical asylum story of the week.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we're sport for choice when it comes
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Speaker 2: to fascical asylum stories. I regularly read the British papers
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Speaker 2: and barely a day goes by where you don't read
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Speaker 2: something about what's happening in the courts with asylum seekers
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Speaker 2: that makes you shake your head.
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Speaker 3: So here's the latest one.
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Speaker 2: A UK asylum seekers I understand that has had his
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Speaker 2: sentencing hearing postponed after leaving the court to get some
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Speaker 2: fish and chips.
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Speaker 17: Absolutely so, he was outside court wearing a Nike puffer
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Speaker 17: coat and Nike Airmax trainers was usually retail for one
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Speaker 17: hundred and forty and one hundred and sixty five quid each.
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Speaker 17: How's he got the money for that? He left his
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Speaker 17: sentencing to go and get some fish and chips. Now
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Speaker 17: I've got a theory. This was just an attempt to
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Speaker 17: seem more British.
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Speaker 3: What next?
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Speaker 17: Is he going to nip off for afternoon tea, play
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Speaker 17: a spot of cricket? Oh, he's outside singing the national anthem,
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Speaker 17: singing Rule Britannia, reading a book of poetry by William
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Speaker 17: Wordsworth and hugging a giant cardboard cut out of King Charles.
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Speaker 17: But I mean this is absolutely ludicrous. The biggest story
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Speaker 17: here is that is in Bournemouth, which is a beautiful
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Speaker 17: seaside resort in Britain, and it's now an illegal migrant
45:31
Speaker 17: dumping ground. At least three huge hotels there full of
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Speaker 17: illegal migrants and core cases like this of them committing crimes,
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Speaker 17: some very serious crimes like this guy's alleged to have
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Speaker 17: attacked someone with a pool Q in a migrant hotel.
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Speaker 17: This is happening all the time now in one of
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Speaker 17: Britain's most popular seaside resorts.
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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: And I imagine people from around the world look at
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Speaker 2: the big matches that we had in the UK recently
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Speaker 2: and think, oh, they're all racistems in a phobic But
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Speaker 2: you read stories like this and as we've said, it's
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Speaker 2: every day almost I mean, people must just be absolutely
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Speaker 2: fit up.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, but it is literally every day that there is
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Speaker 17: a bonker's court case. I mean there's another one going
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Speaker 17: through at the moment where a Somali sixteen year old
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Speaker 17: through an entire sofa off the top of a shopping
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Speaker 17: center into the foyer of a shopping center and nearly
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Speaker 17: killed someone. He's able to use a Somali interpreter in court.
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Speaker 17: He won't be deported. There's a very good chance they're
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Speaker 17: going to pay for him and his entire family to
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Speaker 17: live in Britain for the rest of their lives. And
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Speaker 17: it's stuff like this that really really winds people up.
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Speaker 17: And I can completely understand it, you know, sorry, but
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Speaker 17: it's not far right to not want stuff like this
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Speaker 17: going on in your contry every single day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right.
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Speaker 2: Just before I let you go, I was reading that
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Speaker 2: more than six hundred thousand people in the UK have
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Speaker 2: now been awarded disability benefits for anxiety and depression, although
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Speaker 2: after what we've been talking about, maybe it all makes sense,
46:59
Speaker 2: but mental health both conditions are apparently the most common
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Speaker 2: reason used to claim personal independence payments, and especially amongst
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Speaker 2: young people graduating from school straight to disability benefits for anxiety.
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Speaker 3: That's a concern.
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Speaker 17: It's a concern. This whole thing gives me anxiety. I'm
47:14
Speaker 17: actually off to the dogs as late as try to
47:16
Speaker 17: sign on. But it's around two hundred and fifty people
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Speaker 17: a day now signing on for this stuff. Now you
47:21
Speaker 17: can also get payments of up to just below ten
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Speaker 17: thousand pounds a year to compensate for the extra cost
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Speaker 17: of your disability, whether or not you already have a job.
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Speaker 17: We've got three point eight million people claiming this stuff.
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Speaker 17: That's going to rise to six million by the end
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Speaker 17: of this parliament, and it's going to cost US twenty
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Speaker 17: eight billion pounds. One in five new cars in Britain
47:42
Speaker 17: off all the Motibility scheme, which is cars essentially given
47:45
Speaker 17: to people so that they can get around with their disability.
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Speaker 17: Some need it, unquestionably, unquestionably loads of people don't. And
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Speaker 17: this is this is a big problem for Britain at
47:55
Speaker 17: the moment that we are paying the bills for a
47:56
Speaker 17: lot of people, younger people especially who I think our
47:59
Speaker 17: mental health will be better served if they did actually
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Speaker 17: try to get up, get a job, get out, keep fit,
48:04
Speaker 17: do all of that, not just sign on and pop
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Speaker 17: some pills.
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Speaker 2: Just a few seconds left, Patrick, But I believe this
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Speaker 2: has increased markedly under labor.
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Speaker 3: I've just got a few seconds left. But is that correct?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely, huge increase under labor. I mean it's about
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Speaker 17: six hundred thousand more people under labor than there were before.
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Speaker 17: And you know they said they'd sort this out. I'm
48:24
Speaker 17: afraid it's another broken promise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, no wonder Nigel Faraj is doing so well
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Speaker 2: in the polls. Patrick, Always a delight to talk. Do
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Speaker 2: you have a great weekend, Thanks for being on the
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Speaker 2: program tonight. Well that's all I've got time for this evening.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for your company stick around coming up in just
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Speaker 2: a moment is Sherry Markson