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Ep. 958: Foundations - Blood Trailing Lessons That Help Us Understand Deer Better · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about blood trailing
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  Speaker 2: deer and what it can teach us, not only about
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  Speaker 2: how to find you know, mortally hit, wounded deer, but
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  Speaker 2: just dear behavior in general. When it comes down to it,
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  Speaker 2: there's so much about deer that we just don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: We fill in the blanks a lot to compensate for this,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just simply true that for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: their world is.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of a mystery.
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  Speaker 2: This hits me upside the head like a bag of
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  Speaker 2: wet cement a couple of times each season, and it's
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  Speaker 2: always a good reminder to check what I think I
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  Speaker 2: know over is what the deer actually tell me in
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  Speaker 2: the moment, which is kind of what this episode is
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  Speaker 2: all about. It's the heartbeat in my ears that I
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  Speaker 2: love the most. If that sounds like I suffer from schizophrenia,
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  Speaker 2: well maybe I guess. But what I'm referring to there
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  Speaker 2: is what happens to me when I see a deer
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  Speaker 2: that I know I'm going to try to shoot. I
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  Speaker 2: love that feeling so much, and I bet you do too.
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  Speaker 2: The cool thing about my life right now is that
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  Speaker 2: not only do I get to experience that for myself
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  Speaker 2: a handful of times each season, I get to watch
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  Speaker 2: it vicariously play.
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  Speaker 3: Out with my daughters.
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  Speaker 2: The only time I felt it for sure this year
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  Speaker 2: was when I had just gotten winded by a doe
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  Speaker 2: in Minnesota and then got half winded by a little
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  Speaker 2: six pointer who was about one hundred and eighty degrees
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  Speaker 2: away from that dough. He just walked off when I
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  Speaker 2: turned around in my stand and saw an eight pointer
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  Speaker 2: walking along a trail near the pond I was hunting.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I have a few rules on.
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  Speaker 2: That particular property that I try to stick to, and
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  Speaker 2: one of them is that holding out for a giant
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  Speaker 2: is just not a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: That property is tiny, and.
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  Speaker 2: I share it, and in a lot of time hunting there,
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  Speaker 2: I have yet to see any deer that I would
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  Speaker 2: confidently say was over two and a half years old.
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  Speaker 3: The other rule I.
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  Speaker 2: Have there is to take really high odd shots, because
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  Speaker 2: even a liver hit deer could put a dying buck
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  Speaker 2: in some soccer mom's backyard pretty quickly, and I would
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  Speaker 2: rather avoid that at all costs. While this buck checked
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  Speaker 2: all the boxes and I heard that familiar sound inside
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  Speaker 2: my head as I stopped him and drew. It was
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  Speaker 2: one of those no doubt smoked him type of hits,
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  Speaker 2: and I felt so confident he wouldn't go far that
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  Speaker 2: I texted my daughters and told them it was time
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  Speaker 2: for them to track him for me. They showed up
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  Speaker 2: and we set out and found the arrow quickly. We
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  Speaker 2: then picked up blood and made it seventy five yards
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  Speaker 2: without too much trouble. The downside was that the deer
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there, and I got that not so great feeling
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  Speaker 2: in the pit of my stomach. I don't know a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of people who hunt pressure deer who aren't
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  Speaker 2: totally wrecked with self doubt, and you can count me
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  Speaker 2: into that camp.
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  Speaker 3: I can get there real quickly.
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  Speaker 2: The buck made it on a mode trail, peeled off
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  Speaker 2: slightly once, and then peeled off again twenty yards or
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  Speaker 2: so farther on.
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  Speaker 3: That's where he was stone.
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  Speaker 2: Dead, and quite a bit farther than I expected, but
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  Speaker 2: not far enough to really matter much at all. The
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  Speaker 2: girls did a good job with the trail, even with
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  Speaker 2: me breathing down their necks, because taking third place in
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  Speaker 2: line on a blood trail is not my natural state.
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  Speaker 2: When that buck peeled off the trail the first time,
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  Speaker 2: I told them he was just looking for a place
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  Speaker 2: to die. I was right, kind of. He just didn't
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  Speaker 2: follow through at that moment. Sometimes they are predictable, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they aren't. I think mostly they kind of aren't. But
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  Speaker 2: we see what we want to see now. That wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the last blood trail I was on, however. In the
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  Speaker 2: end of September, I took my daughters to northern Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: to hunt sporks and does, and on the first day
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  Speaker 2: we had a dough flirt with death a lot. She
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  Speaker 2: made it through unscathed, but man, it was close. The
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  Speaker 2: following day we blanked in the morning, so we headed
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  Speaker 2: out for the afternoon sit with hopes in our hearts,
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  Speaker 2: me for a deer and them for a deer that
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  Speaker 2: would keep them from having to go to school. The
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  Speaker 2: next morning, Well, we finally heard something, and soon enough
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  Speaker 2: we had a spike buck standing really, really close to
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  Speaker 2: our blind. He didn't like the vibe of the scene
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot. But the beauty of young bucks is
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  Speaker 2: that they aren't very smart, and sometimes some of us
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  Speaker 2: just need a not very smart one to offer himself
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  Speaker 2: up to us. Well that's what this one did. And
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  Speaker 2: he was so close to the blind that I was nervous.
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  Speaker 2: And I got really nervous when I looked down and
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  Speaker 2: saw that my daughter's crossbow bolt was not going to
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  Speaker 2: clear the bottom of the blind or the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: the window, I should say, so, I whispered to her twice.
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  Speaker 2: I literally said, you're not going to clear the window.
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  Speaker 2: Don't shoot. I said that twice. And you know what
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  Speaker 2: she did. She didn't shoot, Just kidding, she did, and
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  Speaker 2: that bolt smacked into the buck like a freight train.
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  Speaker 2: He went down on his chest and bulldozed his way
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  Speaker 2: out of our lives. But he didn't go very far. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you're wondering how far that might throw off a
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  Speaker 2: bolt in the distance of maybe twenty five feet, I'll
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  Speaker 2: say this a lot more than you'd want to.
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  Speaker 3: Risk it for.
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  Speaker 2: And we got very lucky because she caught a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of vital stuff in that deer's neck before it
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  Speaker 2: broke his off side shoulder. The blood trail looked like
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  Speaker 2: a scene from a horror movie, and he did that
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  Speaker 2: straightaway sprint of a deer in real trouble, no surprise there,
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  Speaker 2: which was nice. It was also nice to get lucky
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  Speaker 2: in the right way with a bad shot, because that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't happen that often. Even though I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: encourage her or anyone else to risk it for the
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  Speaker 2: old deer biscuit, if you know what I mean. Blood
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  Speaker 2: trailing is an interesting endeavor because it brings to mind
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  Speaker 2: the general behavior of deer that we all believe, or
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  Speaker 2: at least most of us anyway, things like wounded deer
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  Speaker 2: go to water, or wounded deer won't go uphill, or
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  Speaker 2: a heart or double lung hit will result in a
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  Speaker 2: deer that's dead within a certain amount of distance or
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  Speaker 2: a high entrance and no exit won't bleed externally very much.
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  Speaker 3: You know all about it.
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  Speaker 2: But for most of us, if we go on more
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  Speaker 2: than a handful of blood trails in any game in season,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot most of us might get to do
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  Speaker 2: this a few times every fall, and that's not enough
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  Speaker 2: time to get really good at anything, let alone learn
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot about dear behavior, especially wounded deer behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Oftentimes we were just left to fill in the blanks.
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  Speaker 2: That's dangerous stuff because we just end up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: talking ourselves into believing something that we usually want to believe.
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  Speaker 2: The guy that I'm sharing that small property with here
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  Speaker 2: in the Cities hit a buck on opening weekend that
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  Speaker 2: bled like a stuck hog in a few spots and
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  Speaker 2: then stopped bleeding. At least according to the guy's story,
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  Speaker 2: that's what happened, and I don't have much of a
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  Speaker 2: reason to doubt it now.
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  Speaker 3: My initial reaction was that it was.
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  Speaker 2: A brisket hit where those big chest muscles bleed like
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  Speaker 2: crazy for a while and then this bigot just turns
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  Speaker 2: off his blood trailing progress and eventual conclusion kind of
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  Speaker 2: sealed the deal for me. But you know what, I
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  Speaker 2: don't actually know. I wasn't on the trail. There's no
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  Speaker 2: dead buck to bear witness to what actually happened. It's
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  Speaker 2: all just a big maybe. Even if that big maybe
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  Speaker 2: exists with some high light likelihood of it being true,
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  Speaker 2: what's worse, I assured him that the buck will probably survive.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen deer hit like that, and I've gotten them
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  Speaker 2: on trail camera later in the season. But I have
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  Speaker 2: also seen deer get hit like that and had zero
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  Speaker 2: evidence that they survived. My default is to assume that
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  Speaker 2: they did. But why well, I don't like the thought
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  Speaker 2: of him, you know, dying a slow you know, ultimately
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  Speaker 2: probably not a very fun death, and then getting gobbled
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  Speaker 2: up by crows and coyotes. But that doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 2: that didn't happen. I've been on more than a few
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  Speaker 2: blood trails where bucks seemed to completely or mostly stop bleeding,
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  Speaker 2: and then a grid search has turned them up tucked
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  Speaker 2: into some dead fall or lane in four foot tall grass,
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  Speaker 2: in a meadow somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I killed a pretty good buck on public.
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  Speaker 2: Land in Iowa in twenty twenty that died in a
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  Speaker 2: river bottom and not in anything overly thick. But I
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  Speaker 2: still walked right by him dozens of times before coming
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  Speaker 2: back in the daylight and finding him within like two minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I had another deer I shot with a muzzle or
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  Speaker 2: die right next to me, and I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: until I got frustrated looking for blood, and walked back
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  Speaker 2: to right where I shot from, which was also like
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  Speaker 2: five yards from where he piled up. I shot a
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  Speaker 2: buck one time when I was in high school that
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  Speaker 2: was bleeding like a stock hog, and when I lost
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  Speaker 2: the trail, I nearly lost my mind. I knew he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't gonna go uphill, because that's all I had ever
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  Speaker 2: been told, and so it was a pretty big surprise
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  Speaker 2: that he did in fact go uphill, and I did,
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  Speaker 2: in fact not find him, but I did in fact
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  Speaker 2: see that deer some weeks later off the same stand.
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  Speaker 2: There are so many lessons tucked into those moments. Another time,
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  Speaker 2: I shot a buck that ran away from me in
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  Speaker 2: a very obvious direction, and after a lot of searching
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  Speaker 2: and not finding, I went on a whim the opposite
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  Speaker 2: way and found him two hundred yards down the ridge
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  Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. I still don't know why he
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  Speaker 2: did what he did. But I did shoot a dough
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  Speaker 2: in the late season in northern Wisconsin quite a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago that walked a long ways on a trail
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  Speaker 2: before doubling back a long ways on the same trail.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if she did it because I
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  Speaker 2: was blood trailing her, or if she did it because
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  Speaker 2: she just did. I know that both of those trails
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  Speaker 2: led me to question a lot of what I know
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  Speaker 2: about wounded deer, and I think about both of them
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  Speaker 2: every time I start a trail, and it just gets,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a little bit challenging. The rules we think
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  Speaker 2: they follow they often don't. And something that might help
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  Speaker 2: us understand that occurred to me when I was sitting
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  Speaker 2: in that blind with my daughters waiting on a spike
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  Speaker 2: to show up. You know how when you're bored or
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  Speaker 2: you're hungry, you'll just think about where you're going to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, go or do, or find someplace to just
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  Speaker 2: sit down and eat. I wonder if that happens with
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  Speaker 2: deer like I wonder if they think, man, I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to get out of this bed and get over
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  Speaker 2: to some clover, although they wouldn't call it clover because
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  Speaker 2: they probably don't have names for their food anyway. I
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  Speaker 2: also wonder if they hear some acorns falling and think
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  Speaker 2: I better just go over there and check that out
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  Speaker 2: because that sounds tasty. Does that seem crazy? It probably is,
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  Speaker 2: But deer get the zuomies. Deer seem to get angry,
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  Speaker 2: they sometimes run to a food source, so I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what thoughts they have or what emotions they feel.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what they are thinking when they are hit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, by an arrow or a bullet, and if
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  Speaker 2: there is enough going on between their ears to constitute
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  Speaker 2: real panic or real contemplation. I'm not sure it's for
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  Speaker 2: us to say. I've seen dogs do some pretty cunning things,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not too sure the difference in intelligence between
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  Speaker 2: your average Labrador Retriever and your average wild white tail
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  Speaker 2: is all that different. I've also seen some do lots
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  Speaker 2: of things that seem to require no mental resources whatsoever,
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  Speaker 2: So who knows. What I do know is that the
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  Speaker 2: more blood trails I go on, the more I rely
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  Speaker 2: less on the rules for the deer and more on
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  Speaker 2: the rules for me and anyone else who is blood
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  Speaker 2: trailing with me. Some of these are pretty standard. I
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  Speaker 2: like really good lights, no surprise there. But I also
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  Speaker 2: like not much noise on my blood trails. Someone who
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  Speaker 2: tries to blood trail with their phone flashlight is not
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  Speaker 2: likely to get invited on too many blood trails with me,
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  Speaker 2: just like anyone who makes too much noise. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why, but I just generally prefer to be quiet
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  Speaker 2: in the woods as much as possible. This is one
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons it drives me nuts when people comment
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  Speaker 2: on hunting films by saying you don't need to whisper
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  Speaker 2: after you shoot your deer. Sometimes you can't help but
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  Speaker 2: let out a war cry or seven, But mostly I
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  Speaker 2: try to stay quiet because I'm always hunting where other
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  Speaker 2: people can hunt, so even if my hunt might be over,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of upsetting the balance in
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  Speaker 2: the woods any more than necessary, because I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 2: people to do that to me if I still had
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  Speaker 2: a tag and was hunting out there anyway. On the
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  Speaker 2: blood trail front, I think being quiet just makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also pretty diligent about marking the blood really well.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes that's with on X, but usually I just keep
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  Speaker 2: my tracker on now so I can use it to
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  Speaker 2: guide me when the going gets tough, or tell me
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  Speaker 2: if I've already gone two hundred and fifty yards and
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  Speaker 2: it's time to back out and wait for daylight. Flagging
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  Speaker 2: tape works well, but then you have to retrace your
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  Speaker 2: steps to pick it up. Paper does too, but that
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  Speaker 2: can be a little harder to see. Either way, if
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  Speaker 2: you're paying attention, a good light, quiet tractors, and diligence
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  Speaker 2: on marking the spore are huge. Instead of totally guessing
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  Speaker 2: what the buck did, if you stick to those three things,
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  Speaker 2: you can make a pretty good decision on what he
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  Speaker 2: probably did.
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  Speaker 3: And those are great.
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  Speaker 2: But the theme that keeps popping up for me and hunting,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean all aspects of hunting, which does include
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  Speaker 2: blood trailing, is patience. I honestly think that if you
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  Speaker 2: want to kill more deer and definitely more big bucks,
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  Speaker 2: you need to learn the real value of patients. Most
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  Speaker 2: hunters are impatient and they want to make something happen.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Western hunting standard and their playing field
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  Speaker 2: sort of allows for it. But the world of white
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  Speaker 2: tail isn't as conducive to impatience because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: us are on small parcels with an animal that is
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  Speaker 2: really good at not showing itself if it doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to be seen. This idea has led me to volume
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  Speaker 2: hunt spots with good sign A lot in recent years
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  Speaker 2: often need to give a location a few days before
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  Speaker 2: DearS show up, but they usually show up now. On
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  Speaker 2: the blood trail front, going slow with deliberation is huge.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who is impatient on a blood trail isn't welcome
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  Speaker 2: on my blood trails because it drives me absolutely nuts.
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  Speaker 2: The whole idea is to sort the puzzle out piece
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  Speaker 2: by piece, and a deer can go anywhere he damn
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  Speaker 2: well pleases. Finding that next speck of blood is what's
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  Speaker 2: most important, that's what matters the most. But this is
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  Speaker 2: where the Venn diagram of impatience and beliefs about wounded
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  Speaker 2: deer behavior become almost a complete circle. As soon as
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  Speaker 2: it gets tough, the impatient blood trailer will say, well,
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  Speaker 2: he probably went down to the creek since they need water,
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  Speaker 2: and then the wild goose chases on. The farther you
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  Speaker 2: start branching out from the last blood, the more ground
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  Speaker 2: you have to work with. Now, sometimes this is necessary,
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  Speaker 2: but it's often not necessary. As soon as most blood
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  Speaker 2: trailers would like to believe. Patience here is a real virtue,
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  Speaker 2: and if you pair that with a well marked blood trail,
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  Speaker 2: you can really sort of tease out likely travel routes
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  Speaker 2: and start checking them off the list. You go through
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  Speaker 2: the obvious ones, and if the sign isn't there, you
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  Speaker 2: go on to the ones that are less obvious. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if the sign still isn't there, then you go for
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  Speaker 2: the ones that break the blood trailing rules, like checking
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  Speaker 2: the trail that goes straight uphill or backtracking and looking
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  Speaker 2: for a spot where he might have turned at some point.
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  Speaker 2: The impatient blood trailers don't often work through the process
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  Speaker 2: that way. And the moment you start freelancing on a
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  Speaker 2: blood trail is the moment the clock starts ticking toward
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  Speaker 2: giving up. There is just such a shift in the
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  Speaker 2: vibe when that happens, and it rarely does us any favors.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how to say this any other way.
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  Speaker 2: It's just really important. I think plenty of deer are
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  Speaker 2: loss to impatience on blood trails, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a shame because it's mostly avoidable. Now, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to color outside the lines on some trails,
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  Speaker 2: because you do. We all end up grid searching at
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  Speaker 2: some point, no matter how well we go through the
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  Speaker 2: initial trailing phase.
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  Speaker 3: It just happens.
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  Speaker 2: But it should be a well planned last resort, especially
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  Speaker 2: if you can't get tracking dogs into the mix, which
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  Speaker 2: is a topic for another conversation. So anyway, think about
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  Speaker 2: this stuff when you're killing time on stand and certainly
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  Speaker 2: when you take a shot or you get that text
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  Speaker 2: from your buddy that says grab your lights and head
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  Speaker 2: on over. Do that and come back next week because
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about how to deal with change
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  Speaker 2: in the deer woods and why the good old days
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  Speaker 2: are just sort of a myth.
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  Speaker 3: That's it for this week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tony Peterson and this has been the Wirre to
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  Speaker 2: Hunt Foundations podcast. As always, thank you so much for
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