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Geek Activities: Quarantine Edition 3 · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 5: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 5: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me today is.
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  Speaker 5: Dick Stein.
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  Speaker 6: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 6: across the internets once again.
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  Speaker 3: From the Oddity Studios and your place. So now we
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  Speaker 3: get to play the game. What's the name of your place?
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  Speaker 5: What's the name of my place?
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  Speaker 3: First, I don't think I ever did in my life
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  Speaker 3: until I started recording. And then I came up with
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  Speaker 3: a dumb name for wherever the hell I lived in.
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  Speaker 3: So now I make everyone else give their name, give
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  Speaker 3: their place that they live a name. So now you
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  Speaker 3: have to come up with something.
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  Speaker 5: I got you. I will actually give you the update
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  Speaker 5: later on in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: You work on it, but we are once again, this
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  Speaker 3: has now become an ongoing series in the world that
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  Speaker 3: we live in. I realized after we got one last
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  Speaker 3: one in under the wire when we sat down and
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  Speaker 3: talked and even then I could only rope one person
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  Speaker 3: into showing up, but after that I was like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess we're on lockdown now and everybody's on quarantine.
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  Speaker 3: So we're not going to see each other for quite
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  Speaker 3: a while. How about we just check in every once
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  Speaker 3: in a while and make sure people are still alive
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  Speaker 3: and doing okay. And then we'll be like, Hey, what
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  Speaker 3: are you up to? So I figured that would be
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  Speaker 3: its own little sub series. Now the quarantine edition.
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  Speaker 5: Well now, okay. Where, where, where are you broadcasting from exactly?
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  Speaker 5: What was the name of your, your cave?
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  Speaker 3: Mine is, I mean, yeah, the alternate is the meltdown compound, but,
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  Speaker 3: which is probably more fitting now, but the like official
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  Speaker 3: studio would be the oddity studios, which is pretty much
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  Speaker 3: anywhere I've recorded from. Cause I don't know. I made
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  Speaker 3: that up when I came up with this whole, truthfully
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  Speaker 3: that existed before the show did that was connected. And you,
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  Speaker 3: you more than most people know there were like the
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  Speaker 3: art shows and then we were doing a magazine. And
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  Speaker 3: so like all of that, just all of whatever dumb
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  Speaker 3: artistic curations I came up with came from the oddity studios.
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  Speaker 3: So now that still continues, it's just become more audio-related
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  Speaker 3: studio than anything else.
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 5: I dig it.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I am broadcasting today out of Star Manor.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. See, that's very fitting. And it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like you're on a spaceship, really. Right. A really fancy
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  Speaker 3: house on a spaceship.
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  Speaker 5: I like to think of it as a bunker underground.
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  Speaker 3: That's the Meltdown Studios.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I have a periscope and I just kind
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  Speaker 5: of like peek out, you know, and check out what's
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  Speaker 5: going on. The world's safe yet. And if it's safe
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  Speaker 5: to come out.
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  Speaker 3: That's more of what I was going with my meltdown compound.
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  Speaker 3: That's more of a fort.
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  Speaker 5: Lots of canned food.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I want some sort of just a walkway along
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  Speaker 3: the top. Just like like any good castle. Essentially, I
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  Speaker 3: just want a castle, really. And I want to have
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  Speaker 3: like a turret somewhere where I can go and check
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  Speaker 3: out what's going on. And then if I don't like
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  Speaker 3: what's going on, I can start like sniping people from there.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right. Or if somebody's trying to breach your compound.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you dump hot oil on them, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure this is how it works.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. Or even tar.
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  Speaker 3: Or nacho cheese. How about that? That's more humane.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say that.
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  Speaker 3: That's more our stuff. Humane and delicious. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: go with nacho cheese.
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  Speaker 5: You can kind of take the chips and wipe the
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  Speaker 5: outer edge of the vat, you know, the giant tub
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  Speaker 5: that you just dumped over.
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  Speaker 3: And you'll hear them scream, but once the screaming subsides,
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  Speaker 3: they'll be like, hmm. They'll be licking their arm. It'll
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  Speaker 3: all be fine in the long run.
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  Speaker 5: It's a good way to drown.
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  Speaker 3: In nacho cheese.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: How.
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  Speaker 5: Have you been doing in this lockdown recently?
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  Speaker 3: I've covered mine in previous, but mine's not much different
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  Speaker 3: than normal. I am still sadly forced to go to
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  Speaker 3: work every day, so I'm not really locked away from
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  Speaker 3: humanity as much as I want to. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've been preparing my entire life in solitude. This would
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  Speaker 3: be the perfect time and be like, finally, I can
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  Speaker 3: sit at home by myself and I have a reason to.
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  Speaker 3: And then I, of course I've been screwed over and
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  Speaker 3: I don't get to. So I, I still go to
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  Speaker 3: work every day. So it's pretty much just the weekend
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  Speaker 3: that then I'm like, okay, now I can go. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Watch a movie. Hell. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: No, I, I totally get that. I mean, I almost
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  Speaker 5: feel like not much has changed except for not having really,
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  Speaker 5: you know, work.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was going to say. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you probably more than most people worked at home, I
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  Speaker 3: would assume.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, now it just sucks because it would be nice
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  Speaker 5: to get out every day or to go. I would
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  Speaker 5: go make a reason to go to the grocery store
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  Speaker 5: at least once every day or every other day and
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  Speaker 5: then go to Hobby Lobby and just different places to
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  Speaker 5: grab stuff. So that definitely sucks. Jess and I always...
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  Speaker 5: tried going out once or twice for dinner, you know,
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  Speaker 5: during the week to support restaurants even, and just to
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  Speaker 5: have a nice meal and can't do that even. So again,
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  Speaker 5: I feel a little more stir crazy now because even
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  Speaker 5: going to the grocery store, I have to make it
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  Speaker 5: like a very itemized in and out, avoid everything. Can't
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  Speaker 5: leisurely check. Cause I'm one of those dudes that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I checked websites daily that, that give me updates on
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  Speaker 5: new snacks and new, uh, crazy products from companies, you know, that,
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  Speaker 5: that make me fatter and every. And so when I'm
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  Speaker 5: walking through the grocery store, I kind of like to
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  Speaker 5: check it all out and be like, Oh snap, what
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  Speaker 5: the hell is that?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 5: And now I'm like, Oh God, there's two people in
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  Speaker 5: this aisle. I'm going to come back.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I like that most of the places I'm
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  Speaker 3: going now, I've kind of switched up lately and went, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can go here instead. But now they've, um, they've
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  Speaker 3: put a one way operation on all of their lanes.
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  Speaker 3: So like I keep getting to the edge of an aisle.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh look, there's what I, Oh wait, it's
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  Speaker 3: the wrong way. So then I have to like loop
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  Speaker 3: around the whole extra aisle and come back up the
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  Speaker 3: other way. Cause I'm like, you know, there are very
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  Speaker 3: few rules in this new society, but going the wrong
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  Speaker 3: way in this aisle, it could be penalty of death.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. So you gotta.
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  Speaker 5: Or scorn from everybody that you're passing, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of felt that anyway, as I initially, like
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  Speaker 3: the first time I went to not just a grocery,
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  Speaker 3: but a store that had other things. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: am I supposed to feel guilty? Cause I'm, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to go look at Legos guys. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: lie to you. I'm here mostly because I want to
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  Speaker 3: go look for, for a specific, I need Legos is
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This is essential life survival items. And yeah, so.
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  Speaker 3: that first time I was like, does everybody know, are
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  Speaker 3: they all going to like band together and try to
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  Speaker 3: kill me? Cause I'm not buying groceries and toilet paper.
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  Speaker 5: Like, but no, I'm going to try to keep you
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  Speaker 5: away from the garbage bill kids. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: See, I mean, these are important things that we need
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  Speaker 3: and like, you know, when not every day you have
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  Speaker 3: to wean yourself off to some extent, but every once
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  Speaker 3: in a while, it's been a long time now. It's
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  Speaker 3: been many and many a week, like sooner or later
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  Speaker 3: we need something.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Well, I was going to say, at least Legos,
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  Speaker 5: you can say, are pretty essential when you have to
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  Speaker 5: stay home and work on things. And then if they say, look, sir,
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  Speaker 5: that's not essential, then you can say, well, you don't
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm building yet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm building a post-apocalyptic world for these little people.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm running. This is like a check to see
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  Speaker 3: where we're headed. And I'm trying to come up with
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  Speaker 3: the best operation so that we don't end up in
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  Speaker 3: this horrible situation that I'm building for them.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: This is really important. I don't think you understand people.
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  Speaker 3: This is why I'm not allowed out of the house
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  Speaker 3: on a normal situation. Cause I, I will actually have
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  Speaker 3: that conversation with someone probably. And they'll just be like,
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  Speaker 3: can we get him locked up right now? Right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Or what, what does this guy do for a living?
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  Speaker 3: Equally as ridiculous. So leave that alone. So other than
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  Speaker 3: the occasional grocery run to, Forage for food. What else
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  Speaker 3: have you been up to?
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  Speaker 5: Man, oh man. Just trying to stay busy. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: With everything, you can get into a slump. And I feel,
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  Speaker 5: you know, once I was kind of done work working,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I have a few commissions left to do
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  Speaker 5: that I've been working on recently again. But, man, I
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  Speaker 5: just didn't feel like doing anything, you know, because I
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  Speaker 5: was kind of like, I don't know, just all the
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  Speaker 5: stressed things or just kind of wondering, you know, like
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  Speaker 5: what I should even be working on or whatever. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'll get back to work now doing some art. I
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: don't have any of my certificates that I usually throw
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  Speaker 5: in with originals. So I have to tell everybody like, well, sorry,
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  Speaker 5: I'll get it back when I can actually go buy
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  Speaker 5: the things and make the things and.
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  Speaker 3: You just have to hand draw the certificates as well now. Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: So everyone's prices have gone up because those take 10 hours.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing twice as much work. Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I'm making them as photorealistic as possible. Now your stupid
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  Speaker 5: little drawing is $ 150 extra. Oops.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 5: But it's been fun getting to, you know, I've been
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  Speaker 5: going back to just like sketching and then, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I've even been playing some video games. which I haven't
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  Speaker 5: had a whole lot of time to do. And so that,
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  Speaker 5: that's been fun.
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  Speaker 3: That is one of those. I feel like a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people get lost in that world and it's, it's
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: been so minimal I've ever crossed over into that, that yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's still, I have a few that I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: could load that on my computer, but I'm like, nah.
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  Speaker 3: And so I, I obviously don't have that gamer drive
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  Speaker 3: in me cause I just don't, I just ended up
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  Speaker 3: watching a movie instead.
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  Speaker 5: I gotcha. Hey man. Like again, you know, I, I,
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  Speaker 5: have not been as into gaming as i was when
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  Speaker 5: i was younger and um i mean i have a
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  Speaker 5: you know playstation but i mean i have a ps4
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  Speaker 5: but you know i don't really use it a whole
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  Speaker 5: ton for games but again sometimes if i have half
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  Speaker 5: an hour here half an hour there i will play
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  Speaker 5: something like i mean it could be monopoly on the
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  Speaker 5: place that i'm not joking.
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  Speaker 3: No no i get well that's the thing i said
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  Speaker 3: rarely did i cross over but there are minor times
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  Speaker 3: when i got really into it and then as time
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  Speaker 3: went on and i thought about it i was like
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  Speaker 3: oh no it's still like me just doing what i
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  Speaker 3: normally do i just found a new platform to do
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  Speaker 3: it on right because the one thing that i got
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  Speaker 3: way too into and spent hours and hours on of
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  Speaker 3: all things and it makes most gamers cringe the sims oh.
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  Speaker 5: Hey dude no uh Listen, I did not get a
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  Speaker 5: whole lot of time to jump into it, but I
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: know Jess was getting into it for a while, so
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  Speaker 5: we've got a handful of The Sims things on the PlayStation.
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  Speaker 3: But it's only recently I've looked at my stupid nonsense
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing now, and I'm like, how is this any different?
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  Speaker 3: I just want to build a dumb little world and
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  Speaker 3: have people there. It's exactly the same. This is just
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  Speaker 3: a video game version, and now I'm playing with plastic,
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  Speaker 3: so whatever. Whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, and you know, I feel like they keep advancing
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  Speaker 5: on the stuff that people like about it, though, you know?
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  Speaker 5: Because every time I scroll through the PlayStation sales or
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  Speaker 5: the store or whatever they've got, I see things for, like,
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  Speaker 5: new packages all the time. It'll be, like, The Sims
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  Speaker 5: Outdoor Living or The Sims Jungle Adventure or, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, The Sims High School thing. So you
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  Speaker 5: get to simulate... There was one that had, like, vampires
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  Speaker 5: and maybe... I think vampires and werewolves or something.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Now you're sucking me back in. Damn it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know there were monsters.
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  Speaker 5: And the thing is, man, I saw it one day.
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  Speaker 5: It was like maybe within the last year and it
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  Speaker 5: was on sale, like on one of those, you know, uh,
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: like maybe a Christmas sale or just some crazy, whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And so I started, I was like, wait, the sins, man.
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  Speaker 5: I remember that, that game. And, uh, and I was
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  Speaker 5: trying to think of something that maybe like Jess would
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  Speaker 5: like to play just on our free time or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And man, it was like nine 99 for the game.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the game is originally like 30 or
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: 40 bucks, but then, uh, then they had all these
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: packages too, that you could get. And some of them
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: were as low as like four bucks, five bucks. And, uh,
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: you know, originally they're nine or 10 bucks. I don't know,
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: but they just had a lot of options. A lot
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: of them. Like you could be, you can pick a
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: parenting one and then add all sorts of new things
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: for storylines that way. Or like, I don't know. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: See, once again, I even even that initial run, I
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: sort of got into gaming, but I did it wrong
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't play the game part of it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's doing it wrong. I think that
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: that's the way you played it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I had tons of fun with it. But
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: like immediately, as soon as I found out you could
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: go online and find some sort of cheat codes. And
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: normally I don't care about those for any other normal game.
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  Speaker 3: But this one I was just like, oh, wait, I
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: can give them unlimited amount of money? So then it
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  Speaker 3: just became, here's all my other geeky interests. I like architecture.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Can I build them a really weird house? Okay, I
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: want to do that. I like junk. I like things.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: How much weird junk can I accumulate? And what sort
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: of interior design can I go as I decide to
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: throw a lot of money into this fake house on
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  Speaker 3: a video game? And then my deadbeat Sims didn't have
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: to go to work either because they were always loaded.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: So like they just lounged around the house all day
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  Speaker 3: while I gave them new weird wallpaper that we doctored
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: up and shoved into the game.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: It's all ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see, but it's all customizable and everything. I mean, dude,
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: that was one of my favorite parts of, like on
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: the PlayStation 3, you can't do it on the 4,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: but on the last PlayStation with the wrestling game, I
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: would spend more time making my characters and creating entrances
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: and things like that than I did playing the game.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: So I could spend two and three nights and I
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: could have a character where I've legitimately built or given
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: him specific 150 certain moves, but then also every aspect
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  Speaker 5: of their costume, everything looked like, for instance, I made
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  Speaker 5: the devil. And the devil would come down with his
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: entrance ramp. He would have fire and flames and all
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: that stuff. But then he would also have Ghost BC singing.
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  Speaker 5: Because I could pick any song I wanted and just
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: import it after I cut it down to wherever I
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: wanted it to start. Man, it was ridiculous. I had
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: people coming down to Marilyn Manson. And I had Jesus
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: Christ would come down to Dio's Holy Diver. dude it
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: was it was so much fun but i mean i
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: would spend night after night making the most ridiculous characters
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  Speaker 5: and make them legit as i possibly could and uh
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  Speaker 5: uh yeah then i would fight every once in a
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: while i'd be like all right well i'm gonna use
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: santa claus to kick fred durst's ass.
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  Speaker 3: Which is what we've all really been wanting to watch
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  Speaker 3: for years now right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, man. Oh, crap. I'm so sorry. I did not
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: mean to bring up Fred Durst for our second podcast
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, that's actually where I was going to end up
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: going anyway. So that's a perfect segue.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Since we last spoke before over and you told me
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: all about this weird movie and I was just like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: what the hell are you talking about? This sounds made up. Well,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: since then, I've watched said movie.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I guess we should tell them if they weren't paying
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: attention last time we were sitting down.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Would you say that you're a fan of the movie?
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: That might be going a little too far.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, more of a fanatic?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, the film is The Fanatic. And the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: ridiculous tie-in is that it was directed by Mr. Fred Durst.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: And written by.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: You're just digging the.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Hole deeper, man.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, have you seen it?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, I have.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say the dialogue could not
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: be any more Fred Durst.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a little while, but I still
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: kind of feel like I'm processing it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I just like I'm in the middle of it. I'm
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: watching it. I'm like, I don't know what to do
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: with this like everything going on i'm like i don't what.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: How am i supposed to feel about this i it's
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: almost never clear i don't i don't think i mean
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: by by halfway through the movie you you kind of
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: care but then you also don't give a shit and
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: then you know by the end you're like what wait
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: so there's not am i is this guy good? Bad? What,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: what just, you know, there was no resolution. I don't know.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: The movie was a mess, but it was also, it
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: was a masterpiece.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Oh Lord. But you're right. Is this that thing?
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: That's just it, man. There were times where like, we
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: kept looking at each other going, Oh my God. Like
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: something would happen and you would just almost shit yourself. Like, no,
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: they did not even do that. And just, Just having
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: the movie start with John Travolta's painful portrayal of autism.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Or whatever it is. They don't really spell it out
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: in the movie. So I'm like, I don't even know
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: for sure if he knows. what he's going for. He
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: just sort of made up a thing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: And, but here's, here's the deal in the synopsis. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: says that he weaponizes his autism. That is a quote.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if it's, accurate like no i
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: would say.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: He's playing a very he he's definitely playing a specific
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: uh character that he that he made up.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: He annoys like he just becomes annoying for two-thirds of
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: the movie and then eventually it gets sort of dangerous
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: but um yeah it's it's mostly just annoying through well
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: and it's.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Also he takes it to such like a vulnerable sort
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: of pathetic area, but then at the same time, uh,
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: almost madness, you know, like, man, I, I don't know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: It was, I would, I would almost be offended. Uh, if,
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: you know, cause I mean, I, I don't know, I've
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: met and, and have family and, you know, there's, there's
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: a lot of people that, that have autism that act nothing, uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: fucking like that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah and i've brought it up on the show before
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: i'm related to someone who is autistic and like i'm
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: fascinated by it in some ways like just because now
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: i'm i'm there and i'm watching it and like it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: it's such an interesting weird mix of things going on
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: in this person's head but i feel like none of
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it manifests itself in any way like john travolta's portrayal.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Well again, I feel like, you know, I feel like
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: he could take, you could take horror stories from, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: five or 10 different people's lives and mishmash it into
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: one character to create some sort of like monster, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: or some sort of maniac.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: It was, man, it was such a baffling role. And then,
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: and then the dialogue, man, like some of the, some
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of the stuff I try, there was one in particular
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: where it was like, uh the guy's name let's not
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: let's not leave this out uh moose played by john
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: travolta of course when when the name of the girl
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: narrating uh says moose didn't just cross a line he
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: fucking nuked it i was like oh man that's oh
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: my god but.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: That's another weird aspect to it is like what what
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: is the point of this other part? Like we barely
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: see this other character, but she's narrating the entire story.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, she never really gets involved enough
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: to make it make sense that she's narrating it. Or
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know. Like she's just a weird character.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Cause I kept waiting for something else to come from
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: her and like nothing.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And the other, the other interesting one is the, Tevin
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Sawa because we not that long ago ran into him
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: at a show and he really is that it's funny
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: he's playing a guy who's like been in a bunch
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: of horror movies so like when I met him at
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: a horror convention I'm like this is pretty true to
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: life what's funny is though like I don't I guess
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: well like how much he was involved or the character
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: was completely written that way but like pretty early on
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: you're like man this guy's kind of a dick like
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: As much as like eventually you start to feel sorry
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: for him because he's being victimized by this crazy person.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like pretty quickly. I'm like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: he seems like at first he's kind of OK. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: then like, well, he might just be a Hollywood douchebag.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And then it kind of gets like, no, he's just
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: kind of genuinely a dick.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it becomes insane or becomes almost. impossible to
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: pick somebody you're like who's this movie who's the protagonist
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: here who's like who am i going like who am
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: i rooting for uh and that's the other thing i
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: mean are we do you ever have spoilers on here
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: i mean i don't want to.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Spoil we i mean as long as we throw it
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: out there because i don't I don't know that I'm
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: going to want to do an entire episode about it
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: anytime soon. So like, I feel like we'll probably address
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: all we need to for, for quite a while. So yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: we'll just throw out the spoiler alert right now. If
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen the fanatic, you can stop listening for
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a few minutes or pause it and go watch it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And we're sorry.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Or you're welcome.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Or you're welcome. Whichever you feel or both really kind
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: of both. I landed on both. I'm glad I've seen it,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: but what the fuck?
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely, definitely on both because, uh, even, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I watched it two times in the first day that
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: I rented it. And, uh, uh, Jess even made a
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: joke about how like, well, okay, don't rent it anymore
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: because you already know you're going to buy it. I'm like,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: damn it. I probably will. Uh, but yeah, it's okay.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: So spoiler alert, uh, the ending man, like, he's not
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: only has he gotten away with stabbing and victimizing Hollywood,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: you know, an actor, but then he murdered a girl,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: a woman that worked for the actor. And then the
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: actor is now, I'm sorry, being arrested or framed for
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the murder. And then he just goes and he's got it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: He was stabbed in the eye and he's okay. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: he's just walking down. the street like nothing ever happened
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: like again the wrap up was baffling.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Like the final act like basically this the prisoner part
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: of it is its own level of weird but like
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I kind of just assumed that's where it would wrap
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: up and like he'd get killed or whatever and that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: would be the end of the movie it's that extra
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: like five to ten minute tagged on at the end
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: there that you're just.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Like yes if they would have If they would have
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: left him stabbed in the eye with a screwdriver, I think,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I believe. If they would have just left him stabbed
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: through the eye into the brain, that movie could have finished.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: They could have wrapped it up with the police just
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: at the scene. You know what I mean? You don't
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: even have to know. But they made it look like, okay,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: not only did he not die, he's totally fine. He's
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: walking down Hollywood and people are thinking he's Michael Myers.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: And now he turns out A-OK. You know, he just
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: has one eye.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Well, and even more ridiculous is like then with like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: no real evidence, they're arresting the guy who was just victimized.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And they're now going to arrest him for the murder
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: of this other person, which I'm like, feel like any
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: amount of work by any detective or anyone doing any
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: lab work could immediately go no no obviously this is
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: not him like.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Well and even just the car even just the car
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: ride to jail or to the police station would bring
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: about wait i'm sorry what just happened from who a
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: guy that did what a deranged and then the entire
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: investigation would have taken over it would like this dude
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: is not hard to find. So everyone on.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Hollywood Boulevard knows who this guy is.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Yes. To think that he just got away, Scott free,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: like the girl wrapped it up in a way that, well,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: it was a learning moment for him. And now he's
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: just got to deal with his one eye. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: This was not just a learning moment. What are you
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: talking about? Like he, he, he, kidnapped somebody, held them,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: assaulted them, killed the maid, and then he got away scot-free.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: It made no sense whatsoever. If the movie wasn't painfully
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: all over the place and didn't make a lot of
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: sense before, the wrap-up just destroyed it. I would love
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: to hear... I did watch a Q & A because
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I had to. I found it on YouTube. There's a
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Q & A with John Travolta and Fred Durst on stage.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: How do you explain yourself? Yeah, I really wish that
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: somebody would have addressed the ending, but nobody did.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Well, again, those Q & As usually have a lot
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: of really dumb questions, and you don't get to the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: stuff you really want to know.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: You know, I will say, I will say, you've learned
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: that John Travolta has dealt with some crazy shit because
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: he had he had two stories about crazy fans um
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: when somebody asked him and these are just two that
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: he just right off the top of his head he's
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: like well you know there was the the girl that
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: was in my closet um and he's like i opened
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: up my closet and there she was and it's like
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: you know she just wanted an autograph said she was
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: a huge fan and it's like oh shit but then
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: He said that there was one time he sat down
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: at the table for dinner with his family and there
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: was just an extra person there. And he's like, oh,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I don't think we've met. And the guy
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, no, I'm a huge fan. My name
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: is so-and-so or whatever. And John Travolta said, I guess
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: that they proceeded to have dinner with this random guy
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: that just walked or made his way into the house,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: you know, like.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Was this like in recent years, like with Kelly or
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: like this is with his current? family? At least that
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: time frame?
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, man. You know, I don't want to go back
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: and rewatch this Q & A, but I will. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: don't remember the specifics, and I might even be wrong.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Maybe he kicked the guy out, but I want to
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: say that they ate dinner together and then he made
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: the guy leave.
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: I mean.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: that's the thing. Like the more, as you said that,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, yeah, I guess that doesn't surprise
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: me just because for, for two main reasons, like now
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: we all kind of, you know, his current incarnation is like, he's,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he's a big name in the industry still, but he's
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: not as well respected as a lot of actors out there.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But he's also like his, his look now is
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: very weird and taken advantage of in this movie perhaps.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: But like, he's just, he gets called in for weird,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: character actor kind of roles now but going back to
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the 70s and again this comes from my uh spending
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: way too many hours watching me tv but like a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: week or two ago i was on a run of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the the welcome back cotter was on and i was
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: just like yeah i forgot like he was mainstream like
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: teen heartthrob like when you look at him, I'm like, yeah, well,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, before that, I mean, even as, as like, yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: welcome back Cotter, then going into Greece and like all
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: of that stuff. It's like, I can't imagine a time
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: in that era when like there weren't girls climbing up
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the trellis to get to his like balcony or something,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you know, like girls in general get crazy about that
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: kind of fandom and like really do like, do weird
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff so like the closet doesn't surprise me again
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: that probably happened more times than he can count back
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: 70s that's why from what I remember it sounded like
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: he had more stories but those were just like two
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: that he could think of that were particularly alarming or
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: more like you know memorable and I was just like
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: god damn man I couldn't I just could not imagine
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you know like even, even being like just a regular
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: ass person opening up any, even opening up your apartment
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: door and finding somebody in your apartment would be absolutely
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: unnerving and fucking terrifying. Wait, can I cuss?
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's, that's, that's the other thing I was
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: going to say. The other part of it of not
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: only was he a huge star and heartthrob kind of
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: version of, but on top of that, he's been around
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: as long as he has, because if you go back
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that far, like people could kind of do anything. Like
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: if you go back and again, and I don't know, I,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, I re they recently did like a
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: TV special of, you know, most of what's on TV
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: now is just murder documentary kind of stuff. So like,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: but they didn't want to, they did one on network.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: That was like a recap of, of the Rebecca Schaefer story.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: And that like, Killed me. Like back when that happened,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: like I was not prepared for that, but like, that
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: was one of those stories that like, this was like
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: late eighties. And like, still at that point, like this
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: dude just like gave somebody some money. Like this was
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: somebody on like a network TV show. Like they were
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: not a list, but they were a well-known person more.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Or less household name ish.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: All it took was slipping somebody some money and they
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: gave him her home address and And he showed up
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: on her doorstep.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's something like, and that was still like
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the eighties. And like, I guess after that is when
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: they really started putting into effect some sort of legal
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: steps that they could take to keep people out. So
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: like now I feel like not that people haven't found
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: new and innovative ways to like be crazy and end
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: up on somebody's property, but like now at least there's
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: steps being taken to keep that from happening where like,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: 70s and 80s, like, it was a free-for-all. Like, you
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: could just go get one of those maps to the
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: stars' homes and go stand outside of their house.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's one of those things that just evolves.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, you could look at the same, or
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: at flying the same way. You could look at, you know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: even riding in cars, you know, like, they didn't mandate
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: seatbelts until, like, what, 90s or something like that. Or
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: the 80s. It was something ridiculous. It was way too late.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Same with... I remember flying in airplanes a lot when
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: I was younger and they all had ashtrays.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: That was up until recently.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: That's what I mean.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Through the 90s, I think. Yeah, that's what I meant.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: That's when I was last a kid.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I'm old. Again, to perspective-wise and how wrong even the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: way people look at these things are, if I remember
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: back to the seatbelt thing, a lot of the car
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: manufacturers didn't want to put seatbelts in because it made
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: their cars seem unsafe. So they, for several years in
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the crossover, they were fighting it because they didn't want
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: it to seem like, well, obviously you need a seatbelt
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: in this car because it's going to kill you. Whereas
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: if you just blissfully didn't have one, this car must
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: be so safe and easy to ride around in and
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: not kill you.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Right, right. Kind of like the idea that you don't
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: need a seatbelt in the back of like a taxi
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: or something. Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, no, he's a professional.
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah he knows how to drive.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: So yeah it is one of those things that you
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: know you you just look back a few years and
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: things are like wait how did what how did we
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: let this happen.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: No oh dude of course have you uh have you
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: seen what is it um it was on it's on
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: shutter it's called cursed films.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: No it's uh i'm already intrigued.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: It's it's pretty new um but it's one of those
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: deals where they tackle five different films over five episodes.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: And the first three are interesting, but they almost leave
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: you like, well, they left us kind of frustrated because,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: you know, like in the episode, for instance, when they're
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: talking about the exorcist, there are, you know, the entire
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: episode is about the exorcist, the exorcist, the movie, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: then they start bringing in exorcists. Okay. And they start
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: like interviewing them about like, the past demonology. And this
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: is what we do in exorcism. And then they started
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: showing these quote unquote exorcists performing and doing their own like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: you know, spiritual shit. And I'm like, okay, wait a minute,
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: wait a minute. Like, can we get back to the movie?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Can we go back? Like, are you done with, with
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: all the shit that we could talk about from the film?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You kind of need to make up your mind.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: It's like, are you going to do a behind the
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: scenes version of the movie or just a look at
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: exorcisms in the real world?
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Like that is exactly what the first three episodes felt
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: like was that they didn't really, I don't, it was
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: almost like they didn't have enough. Okay. One of the
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: poltergeists was good, but then, uh, uh, even then they,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: they start to talk to like mediums and things like that,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: which got a little annoying, but then do when it
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: got to the movie, the omens, that was the most,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: that was the most upsetting because I love the old man.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Like I own the original. It was one of those
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: movies I saw when I was young and, and it
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: just kind of always, you know, freaked me out a bit.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: But again, it was, I wanted to hear, I was like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Oh shit. You know, I mean, I remember hearing about
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: a bad thing that happened or one or two things
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: that were like, Oh shit. But I wanted to see
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: this episode and man, the first five, seven minutes, you're like,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: maybe even first five, 10 minutes. You're like, dude, this
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: is awesome. And then the last, like, I don't remember
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: how long each episode is, but the last 80% of
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: the episode is just, I don't know, talking about like
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: bad luck and superstition and in general, you know, and
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like, wait a minute, why are we watching this?
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: And multiple times we looked at each other, like, what
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: is happening here?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Like, are we done talking?
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. But then now I will say the final two
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: episodes though, they talk about the, this is the whole
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: reason I'm even bringing this up is that they talk
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: about the, you know, the movie, the crow and then
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: the twilight zone. And they talk about how there were
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: basically no rules when it came to filmmaking, like when
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: the twilight zone was being made and how, I mean, dude, they,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: they were breaking laws. They were putting explosives up next
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: to things without checking this or worried about safety. And
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: they didn't care. Like, they would film at this hour,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: even if they couldn't because of this and that. And
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, dude, there were just no rules, you know?
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: And that to me wasn't that long ago, especially the crow.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Like I went and saw the crow in the theater.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago, but yet still didn't have
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: like good gun safety on set.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: Like, well, and even then, man, when they explain how
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: it was like, they, they have an actual, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: they break it down and show you exactly this was
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: the chain of events. This is how it happened. This
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: is what killed him.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: It wasn't anyone's fault, but it is like a ridiculous,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: it is almost the final destination level of chain of
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: events that like led to this happening.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: And it's something that nowadays with the regulations that you're talking,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah. Even in the last 25 years, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: like nowadays with regulations being the way they are, Do
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: you remember hearing horror stories? I don't know if this
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: is just an internet thing, but how many animals were
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: killed while making like Milo and Otis or some.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Show those cats, those cats, the dog might've made it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they just had the one dog,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: but I heard the cats. It's a good thing. A
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: lot of kitties look like that cat. Cause they went
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: through a lot of those cats is the worst story.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Again, man, like even hearing that it's like, you've got
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: to be kidding. Like they can never do that now.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, you hear about them putting a dog in
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: jeopardy by putting them over water. And the director is
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: like blacklisted from Hollywood.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: You know, like, and again, this wasn't that long ago.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I remember coming down.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I'm saying that. Yeah. You, you really, I mean, people,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I just guess got away with whatever they wanted, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: you know, over time as things work, you know, or
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: as as what happens with everything uh over time regulations
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: have to happen i mean you remember dude the internet
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: come on we you and i saw the birth of
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: the internet's boom and i mean back when it first
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: started holy crap you know what i mean.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Like i mean i don't know are there any rules.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Now i still feel like we still.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Haven't ever really figured out a way and then to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: some extent i think we need that. I mean, there
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: needs to be some basic hard lines that you can't cross,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: but like there is something kind of impressive and amazing
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: about the weird world that the internet has created. That
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: is just limitless and endless and, and so many people
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: out there that you can connect with or they can
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: create whatever the hell they want and throw it out there.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And granted, many lines are crossed along the way and
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: people are horrible in the process, but, I think the perspective,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: you know, just looking at like the, the limitless things
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: that you can do is still kind of amazing to me.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's, it's dude, it's incredible, man. I mean, I
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: can't even imagine a world without it, you know, especially
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: even just dude with every profession, but God, I think about,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: you know, even just art when I'm, when I'm looking
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: up reference images, I mean, my whole life, dude, I
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: was going through, I still have stacks of magazines and
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: books I've collected because they've got reference images, you know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: and things that I'm like, Oh, I'll come back for
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: that one day. Or, you know, because you couldn't just
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Google something. You couldn't just find a treasure trove of
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: like every screen capped moment from a movie. You know
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: what I mean?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Like, and, and, And we adjust, I guess, pretty damn
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: quickly because now I'm the opposite. Now it frustrates the
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: hell out of me when people are just clueless about things.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, on a daily basis, I have people
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: constantly asking like, directions to where a thing is and like, what, what,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: what area is that in? And I'm like, in the
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: time you've been fumbling over this question, I could have
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: grabbed my phone and looked it up and been staring
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: at a picture of where you're trying to go. Like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: how do you not have Google maps? How do you
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: not have something on your phone? Like there's a handful
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: of people in the world that don't have a smartphone
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: at this point. So assuming you're one of those people,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: shut up and just look it up on your phone. Like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: why are you constantly wandering around clueless still? I don't know.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I know that, that annoys the hell out of me now.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no excuse for you to be as
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: ignorant as you are.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Well, but that's just it, man. We, we live in
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: the smartest time ever. And we, we, yet we still
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: have to explain to people that no, no, no, the
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: earth is round. Y'all don't like, come on. Like, are
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: we really having this discussion right now? There are so
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: many other things that we are, that we have never discovered.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: that is like, that's like, damn it. The sky is blue.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: You guys quit it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: There's always somebody that's gonna, I think just to be difficult,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: just to be different. They're going to like, I'm going
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: to go the other direction with this thought. Like a
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: A thousand dollars says it started as a joke. And
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: then just like the invade area 51, it became its own.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Like everyone's like, yeah, yeah, it is. And then they
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: became like part of a club and, You know, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: now they're all just kind of like laughing on the inside. Like, yes, yes.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: They're talking about us on the news.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Or you can take it to the highest level and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: just create your own religion.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Because that's one of my favorite. And I don't again,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I've never dug into it. sort of tying back to
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: a previous celebrity we were talking about.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, one of those, one.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Of those, one of the stories I heard was just
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: years ago that like the entirety of that first Dianetics
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: book was like a drunken joke one night between these guys.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: It's just like, and they came up and like, then
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: next thing you know, everybody's like printing up massive amount
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: of copies and it becomes this bestseller. And then people
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: are like really starting to take all this seriously. And like,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: at that point, if you were the author, would you
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: tell anybody or would you just be like, suckers, keep
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: cashing those checks?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Well, that, that, that very, that same author was quoted
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: as saying in, in like college or whatever, that, that,
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: you know, if, uh, if you create a religion, that's
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: where the real money is. And then, yeah, he went
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: on to write, you know, a bunch of sci-fi, a
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: bunch of, you know, books that did pretty well. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: then went ahead and wrote, you know, himself a religion.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: And yeah. Uh, I mean, but that, that's just it, man.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: But like same with conspiracy theories, if you have a
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: good mind, if you have a great, you know, creative, uh,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: or creativity, uh, I don't know, almost like somebody like
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: Stephen King, you know, grab somebody like him and say, okay, uh,
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: how would this have been a conspiracy?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Like, like make a conspiracy out of, you know, this
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: particular occasion.
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: Oh man.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I went the opposite direction. I was suddenly like, oh man,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: can we make up like a horror religion? Cause like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who would be into
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: that idea. That's just it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: If you, if you do, if Stephen King were to
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: write a book about a religion based on horror, like,
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? You know that he would
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: come up with something that was convincing enough to where
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: you'd be like, oh, I guess I can see why
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: they believed it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Can we come up with something that like the chosen one,
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the one we all, you know... bow down to is
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: is hellraiser i mean i just want pinhead at the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: center we can get doug bradley on board he's a
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: cool dude so i really feel like he's that's a
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: very religious image right there and.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah and clive barker's still alive he could.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Help yeah yeah he's definitely the kind of person who
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: could come up with that stuff i mean.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Dude all alone like yeah that's what i mean he's
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: written books i'm like Like that's the thing. All it
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: takes is a creative mind and a drive. And man,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: you can really come up with some convincing and some
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: really engaging stuff, you know, things that you could believe
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: in and go. But then you'd have to step back
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: and go, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I just
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: made all that shit up.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Do you or do you then start passing the collection
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: plate around?
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Exactly, though. Exactly. And then you're tax exempt. You've got
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: all sorts of grants. And yeah, dude.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So what we're saying is we need to get on this.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah. What we're saying is horror, religion, send us notes.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: Go.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Run with it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I think we also have somebody who can probably do
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: all the really interesting and intricate illustrations for this book
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: that we're creating.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Ah, yes.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like we know somebody who could probably come
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: up with some horror images. I'm not going to name
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: any names, but, you know.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: But no, man, that kind of stuff is, I always
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: think about it, man. Whenever I read, like, you know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: especially with this current situation, COVID and all that kind of,
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: you know, people like, oh, it's 5G towers. I'm like, oh, man.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: And then I just, suddenly I'm like, all right, well,
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: how'd you get there, man? I just want to read
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: it because I'm like, you guys are fucking out of
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: your minds.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, seriously. Like, when it first, it was like
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: a week and a half in. And I somehow I
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: think somebody posted it. Some other weirdo on our friends
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: list posted it on Facebook and was like, no, really, guys,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: check this out. And like, I think I was just
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: bored and like about to go to sleep. And I
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: clicked on it was like, all right, let's see what
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: the hell this is. And like they launched into this
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: conspiracy theory that was, oh, my God, like it like
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: the 5G tower was just part of it. Like it
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: was so deep. and was so backing it up like
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: everything was scientifically proven with things like a virus can't
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: mutate from an animal to a person and create a
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: new virus. I'm like, no, that's exactly what they do.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point of where these viruses come from,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: you morons. But like they went into it and they
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: were pulling old weird science clips that were like supposed
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: to back it up. I'm like, no, you're just wrong.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: And then they got to the 5G towers and they
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: had maps all over the world of these 5G towers.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: And they spent so much time on this thing to
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: the point that I really did end up falling asleep.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: And I woke up like I don't know how long later.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: And it was still on.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know how long this YouTube video rambled, but
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: I was just like, oh my God, stop. I'm going
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: to sleep now. I was like, this is ridiculous. I
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: like a good conspiracy theory, but that one was just like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: you are just out of your mind. Stop talking.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. Conspiracy theories are kind of fun,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: but they're also nine times out of 10, that's all
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: they are. They're, they're, uh, somebody had a, a funny idea.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: It's like memes, you know, there's memes that are great
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: jokes and you're like, well, that's a really good joke.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: And then it's like, okay, well, somebody came up with that.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: It's a good joke. Uh, just like, just like writers
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: in the first shows and just like comedians that put
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: together things or singers that, that write epic songs. I mean,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: it takes a mind to think of a, of a
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: situation and whatever, but oh my God, like it also
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: just do, do the math. Like, Like, have you ever
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: heard the conspiracy theory that birds are like drones by
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: the government or some shit?
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Like all birds?
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. I'm like, y'all have seen documentaries and
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: nature shows since you were little. You think you've been
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: shit on by birds that were like so, so advanced. Like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: first of all, they can't even make anything that doesn't
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: clink and clank around. Like, ugh.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: What about that parakeet I had when I was a kid?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Was it just a spy camera in my room all day?
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, dude. These are all written by people. They're stoner
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: thoughts or they're drunk moments that then take on a, ooh,
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: what if? And then suddenly you say it to a
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: group of people and they are legitimately dumb enough. I mean,
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: they're the same people that are going to, you know, whatever,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: drink disinfectant or whatever it is.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Just inject it in yourself. You'll be fine.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: Exactly. They're the same people that do that. Those are
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: going to be the people that run with the thing
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: and go, bruh, the earth is flat, but also birds
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: are this and things are that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay that's the other end of the that's
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: the bad end of the internet spectrum is because i
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: feel like before we just had these little wingnuts in
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: their basements or and they were all separated and you
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: know no they didn't know the other ones were out
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: there but now the internet has connected every psychopath on
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the planet absolutely like they just uh they just rant
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: and ramble and then they join together and get more
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: people behind them. And it gets out of control now
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: that we didn't used to have to worry about that
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, but we're connected to everyone now.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Well, it also empowers every, I mean, you know, which
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: is a good thing too, is the double-edged sword. You know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: you get the empowerment that you need by finding people
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: that go through the same things you go through or
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: questions to, you know, or answers to questions that you've
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: been having, but then also suddenly, you know, the, the
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: guy that you're like, man, I thought I noticed one
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: dude who's into this and that suddenly there's a, yeah,
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: there's a group of a thousand, 2000 of them that
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: are in the same, you know, like, and I'm not
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: even dogging people's interests. I'm talking about like, like, you know, crazy,
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: like clown killer shadow, whatever it is.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like it's, it's, it's fine when you're
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: all into the same video game and like, you want
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: to get on a message board and chat.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I lived 20 years ago. Or you want to get
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: in a Twitch room and talk. I don't know.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't pay a hundred percent live stream.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: That's all cool.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, but then there's, again, it's just one little
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: nudge this direction. It's like, Whoa, we've hit a dangerous area.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah. There's a documentary on HBO right now called like
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: thought crimes. And it was about a dude who like, like,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, dude, he, he ran or he was just
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: on this site where it was all about like people that,
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: that had cannibal fantasies, you know? And they were legitimately like,
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: like taking pictures of real women that they knew and
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: talking about how they would cook them and how they would,
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: you know, like, Oh, I'm going to prepare this and
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: I'm going to cut her up this way. And I'm
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: going to take her to this place where no one
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: can hear. But it was like, no, no, no. It's
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: all fantasy, man. It's all, you know, meanwhile, like these,
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: even if it's fantasy, I think by the end of
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: the documentary, they, I want to say a couple of
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: people that were on this website that were interacting with
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: the guy who the document out, that was like, you know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: facing all these charges. A couple of these people actually
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: went away to prison for other, for other crimes. You
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's, it's a slippery slope. It's like,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I want to give people the freedom to be into
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: whatever you're into. Again, it falls back to as long
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: as everybody's willing, no one's getting hurt.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, right.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: It's like, there's hard lines we have to stick to,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: but other than that, be into whatever weird shit you
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: want to be into. Like, I'm fine with that. but
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: everybody has to be on board at all. Like nobody
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: needs to be getting hurt. Like it's, there's, there's just
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: a point where it goes way too far.
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: And honestly, dude, it's still, no matter what, like you,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: you gotta have that, that ability. I mean, to have
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: those groups and stuff is kind of one of those
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: deals where you just have to keep your head on
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: a swivel as always, man. Like I've, I've, been that
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: way since I was young. Like, I always feel like
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: the dude behind, you know, me in line at Kroger
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: could have a body in his basement, you know.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Or like, that's true.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Sometimes, man, you know, I had been in the service
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: industry for a majority of my adult life, you know,
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: or from like my teens all the way through even
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: my early 30s, you know, and I'm like, man, I
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: guarantee somebody I've served at, you know, the coffee shop
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: I worked at somebody I served at the, the, you know,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: restaurant I worked at or at the bar. It's like, dude,
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: I have served a murderer. I have served a burglar or,
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: or people that, you know, like you can't even, who
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: knows what they've done, you know?
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: And it's like, I mean, it does happen. And again,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: people who've been listening to the show for a long time,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: know that two of our regulars lived across the street
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: from a serial killer.
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: Oh, no way.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: And they used to, he was a weird guy. And
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: one of them, well, both of them kind of, but
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: one really used to get a creepy vibe and like
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: didn't want to be around the guy. But he was
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: like kind of, I mean, again, you see the other
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: side of it sometimes. He was kind of pathetic and
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: they sort of felt sorry for him. And he ended
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: up like, he was like, again, just a loser hanging
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: around and with us. Again, it's so cliche living with
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: his mom. hanging around the neighborhood. So they were letting
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: him mow their yard because he needed something to do.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: So like he was cutting their grass on a regular basis.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, was he, was he like special in a way,
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: like special needs or was he just like a, just.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Kind of like a outcast?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing. I'm sure there's need, needless to
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: say something wrong with him.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't think he was that.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I don't, he was functional enough that he was, he
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: carried on with his life. He was meeting girls and
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: convincing them to come back to his house. You've got
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: to be with it enough to be able to do that,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: even if you're finding girls who should know better. I
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: guess picking the lower end there of girls who don't
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: have sense enough to not do that, but still, you've
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: got to be with it enough to be able to
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: pull that off, and he was several times. Yeah, you
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: really do.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: Run into that stuff and it's going on out there.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: That's just it, man. It isn't going to be because
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: of the internet. I mean, the internet makes it easier
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: to connect with people that are like that, but I mean, shit,
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: that stuff's been happening since mankind has been around. So again,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I just, you know, for a long, long time, man,
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: since I was young, I just don't trust people or
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: at least, you know, random people that you don't know.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: That's for the best, really. That's a good attitude to have.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, man, but I always liked to, you know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: since I was little, man, you remember the show Unsolved
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: Mysteries or America's Most Wanted. Growing up, man, when I
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: would play, you know, soccer or Little League or anything
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: like that, I was constantly like while we were out
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: at practice and, you know, outdoors and whatever, I would
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: constantly be like looking, looking in like the ravine, looking
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: through the woods, like, I wonder if I'm going to
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: find a body today. You know what I mean? Like
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: just because I was always convinced that somebody had just
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: gotten murdered around or, or that there was some, some
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: sort of sinister thing lurking.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: So your favorite movie was stand by me. Oh, dude, dude.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I say you guys going to go see a dead body. Dude.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not joking when I say I saw that movie
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: when I was like five or six and maybe I uh, dude,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: a lot. And my mom, I remember the first time
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: we saw it, I was so young that my mom
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: was like, like upset that, uh, that my dad was
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: even showing me. And this is after, I mean, he
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: had shown me other horror movies, but she just didn't
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: want me seeing that movie. And yeah, I mean, again,
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: I didn't see anything wrong with it. I like, in fact,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: I think I almost like, like blart ass and like
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: the scene where they have like the, the, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: beaches all over them. Like that, that shit was just
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: part of my childhood. I thought that was hilarious.
• 58:01
  Speaker 10: When the night has come And the land is dark
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: And the moon is the only light we'll see No,
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: I won't be afraid No, I won't be afraid Just
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: as long as you stand, stand by me.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: So darling, darling.
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: Stand by me. Oh, stand by me. Oh, stand, stand
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: by me. Stand by me.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: It's intermission time.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Time for refreshment.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: During the next 10 minutes, you're invited to visit the
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: refreshment stand, where you'll be greeted with fast, friendly service.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: You'll find hot dogs, juicy hamburgers, and mouth-watering, delicious pizza.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: There are refreshing hot and cold beverages, ice cold cola,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and orange drink. Goes great with an order of crispy
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: French fries. Then there's a wide selection of your favorite
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: candies and other delicious snacks. And there's always a fresh
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: batch of hot buttered popcorn to go with the rest
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: of the show. So visit the refreshment stand now and
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: add to your enjoyment of the movie. We're happy to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: have you with us tonight and hope you'll come back often.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: I brought them to share with you. I said I
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: was getting my Girl Scout cookies and they finally just
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: before the lockdown showed up and So if you need
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: some tagalongs, I also left them sealed so you know
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: they have not been infected yet. As soon as we
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: open them, they're infected. I know, who knows. But tagalongs.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: So as we're enjoying our cookies, we're doing it with coffee,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: which surprisingly, even as the world's falling apart, you can
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: still go get it at Heine Brothers. I was driving
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: past to go back to my bunker and I looked
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: out the window and there were people in line. Like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: you can't hang out there, but you can still go in.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Wait in line, get your coffee, take it back to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: your bunker. So just, you know, even in the... I've
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: been calling it apocalypse light. You know, we haven't really
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: started fighting over gasoline yet or gunning people down in
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: the streets yet. But it's weird. So it's a very
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: light apocalypse at this point. But you can still go
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: get your Heine Brothers coffee. And until the shipping system
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: falls apart, I'm assuming you can still order it and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: it'll come to your house. So you go use your
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: meltdown code. Get yourself some, ship to your house while
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: you can.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Stockpile it.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Who needs toilet paper when you can be stockpiling just
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: bags of beans for what you really will need in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: the long run is coffee.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: So it's important. Plan ahead, people.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Even when everything is falling apart, Heine Brothers Coffee. Heine
• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: If there was anyone left, they would have come for
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: us already.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: It's just us and them.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Vampire hunters.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: Ex-military guys we're trained to kill.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Led by a master swordsman.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: We're here to decide who lives and dies.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: We'll stop at nothing.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: To save the human race. We're gonna make it, even
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: if it kills us.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: No!
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: No!
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: Steven Seagal. Against the Dark.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: What are you going to do?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going on.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: On DVD. Even in the middle of all this craziness
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: in the world, and I'm still stupidly, for many people,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: probably trying to put together these Horror Club exclusive episodes,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I assume... nobody cares and it's all gonna fall apart
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: nobody's gonna want these anymore yesterday we got a new
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: patron yeah somebody joined on in the middle of this
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: insanity and i was like you know it's these things
• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: um listening in general but even more so when they
• 1:03:40
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• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:10
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Don't you want to be cool?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I mean really. Don't you want to be cool? All
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: the cool kids are doing it. Okay, wait. Just by
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: being a movie geek, you're already not a cool kid.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Neither are we.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: So all the geeks are doing it. Join the club now.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: Cool is a relative term anyway.
• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:02
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• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:24
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• 1:05:33
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• 1:05:35
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• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:39
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• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:49
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• 1:05:51
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• 1:05:53
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• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: I played Herschel Green on The Walking Dead, and this
• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: The Walking Dead.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: And now, on with the show. So darling, darling, stand
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: by me.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, stand up right by me.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: Won't you stand up?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that movie gets away with a lot of stuff
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: that I feel like you couldn't do now. And in general,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: it was R rated, but every kid in America saw
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: it as a kid. So like it was technically R rated,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: but it was kind of like a kid's movie in
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: a way because everybody I know watched it when they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: were a kid.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: So that's just it, dude. That's another sign of things
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: that have changed. You know, like some people are still
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: fine with that. Some people are like, Oh hell no.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, people I've talked to just at conventions alone
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: that are like, man, I saw this growing up. Could you,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: can you believe that? And then I'm like, yeah, dude,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: the same, like, uh, the first theater or the first
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: movie I ever saw in the theater, like, uh, along
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: with my dad was a maximum overdrive. And I was,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: I was six.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: That's when it becomes a weird game. And I guess
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: neither of us get to play this yet or maybe
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: ever for me, but I'm like, then it becomes like,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: at what point, like when you got to do whatever
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: the hell you wanted as a kid and you're, you're
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: okay with how you turned out, but then you become
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: a parent. It's like, then do you totally turn your
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: back on that? And you're just like, no, I'm not
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: letting my kids see any of this.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Flip on it.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: That's another, you're, you're talking, you're talking to the wrong
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: guy about that because, That's one of those reasons I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: don't want children, man. I love my niece and nephew.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: I think all my friends' kids are great, and every
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: one of them are happy with their kids. Man, I've
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: never had that drive to be like, you know what?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: I want to shape a young mind.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: Cause it's like, I was like, dude, I am a mess, man. Like,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: or not, not a mess, but I'm like, I don't know. Like,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: like by the, by the time my dad was my age,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: He was retired. He was, you know, he had three
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: kids that were in high school and one of them
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: was about to be out of high school and in college.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: And it's like me, dude, what right now, if I have, like,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I can't even imagine having three grown kids. Like,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, guess what? I'm taking care of a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: cat now. You know, like that's how you and I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: started talking today. And I can't imagine.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: And we're all a little worried about that cat. Really?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: As you should be. Man, I don't.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. Like it is one of those.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: And I've said this for years and it's, I guess
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: it's partially why I've stayed away from that. Also, because
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I think most people don't want anything to do with me.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: You know, women, whatever. The ladies noticed you're clear of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: me in general. But I think there is, like, I still, like,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: I have this response when people start talking. I'm like,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: I think it's such a huge undertaking to to be
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: in charge of raising a child and like other people
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: are just like guess what we're pregnant and I'm like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: whoa whoa whoa whoa have you stopped to think about
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: what that means like what all you are responsible for
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: and I don't know knowing how weird and twisted my
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: childhood was and how I it wasn't really like they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: did a fine job and I still became a big
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: old mess so you know it's just like I'm just like,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine all the weird little decisions that you
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: made that led to me being this way. Let alone
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: if you're like even more of a screw up. Like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: if you're actually a bad parent, God, again, we're back
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: to having a serial killer living next to you.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, that's the other thing is you could be
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: the greatest parent on earth, man. You never know. It
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: could be, I mean, and look again, I don't, and
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: hopefully not many parents are listening. I think about things like, look,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: you can be the perfect parent, have a kid that's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: an honor roll student, they're 15 years old, and they're
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: hanging out with their friend who's 60 and they just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: got their license and then they get killed in the crash.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: Something so completely out of your control, something even out
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: of the kid's control, it's something that you give birth
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: to something that obviously has its own life, becomes its
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: own thing. that you have to kind of let do
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: its thing. And then that leaves everything up to chance again,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: as usual. And then you also have, you know, I've
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: got lots of friends that, that man, that God bless them. They're,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: they're in the hospital a lot because their kids have
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: so many issues that, that, you know, just arise out
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: of nowhere.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: I thought they were just getting themselves injured all the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: time because I'm like, oh, no, I played that game.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: I used to constantly injure myself as a child. And
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: not as like a clumsy thing, just something horrendous would
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: happen to me. My mom has said that to me.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: She's like, you know, if what you had going on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: when you were a kid happened now, they would have
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: taken you away from us. okay and it was always
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: my doing they weren't responsible i was just doing something
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: stupid or just random luck that i i walked under
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: this tree and oh it sliced my head open like
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: stupid shit like that the kids do but like yep
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: now it's like you're responsible and we'll be held accountable
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: when they do stupid shit like that.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: Oh man yeah well imagine if if you know God, dude, I, again,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: imagine if your kid is being bullied, imagine if you
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: don't handle something appropriately and then they do something horrible,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: you know, like just imagine there's, there's a ton of things.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: And again, man, I broke, did you break bones now?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: Like when you said you got injured a lot?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: Okay. Cause like I broke multiple bones growing up. And
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: so I can't even imagine being a parent, you know,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: and having like, like, there were a lot of times,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of times where my mom was all by
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: herself with all of us, you know, because my dad
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: was in the Navy. And so he was always, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: there's six month cruises, you know, where that was part
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: of his job was.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Months at a time trapped with the.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: Three of you six months at a time, trapped with
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: three kids. And we're talking three boys and half the time,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: you know, we were being restationed. So she would have
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: to like take us across country and, to the next location.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like in a van or
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: on a train or whatever it was. And anyway, you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, there were so many things that could go
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: wrong there. And even just imagine like having no significant
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: other around and then suddenly you have two kids that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: you have to bring with you to the hospital because
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: your other kid just broke a bone. It's like, oh
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: my God, no. And this was before cell phones and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: before GPS and before... you know, like hell to the no.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I watch people kind of like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: go into these scenarios with their kids and I guess
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: no real judgment. Like it just horrifies me.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: Like, Oh no.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: Like they seem, they seem so nonchalant about it. They're
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: just like, yeah. And they'll be naming something that their
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: kid's going to do. I'm like, that could go horribly wrong.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: That's exactly it. Like I, I love that my friends
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: are killing it as parents. Like dude, it's, I have
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: multiple friends with teenage kids, you know what I mean?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, wow, dude, like, like I knew you before.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: I was like, I knew you when we were allowed
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: to start drinking, you know what I mean? Like, like
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: I've seen you puking because of eating too many chicken
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: tenders or something like it just cracks me up that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: their parents, but now dude, I'm also watching them killing it,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: you know? And again, I see things like that and I'm, terrified.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: But then I have friends that are literally my age
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: that are having babies right now and dude, they're just
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: killing it and they couldn't be happier. And so it's like,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: and it's something that they've always wanted to though, you know,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: and with me, I feel like I'm maybe just too
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: selfish or too scared or I have too many, you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: reservations or whatever it is, but man, it's just not
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: been on my menu.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: My real answer almost all of the time. And this
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: was the funny thing is I'll always be like, man,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: kids cost too much. Cause like, I do not understand
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: how people afford children. Cause they will just suck money
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: out of you. And I'm like, I barely get by now. Dude, same.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: I don't understand how they do it. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, yeah,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: I think about that shit all the time.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: But that's the funny part is that's the one thing,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: like any other time if you start, like you're badmouthing
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: the idea of being a parent, most parents get defensive.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: That's the one thing they will be like, oh, no,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: you're right.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: They will never fight me on that one. They'll always
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, all right, you get a point.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: I will never badmouth being a parent either. It's just like, dude,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to badmouth somebody, you know, or if
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: somebody is religious, you know what I mean? I'm not
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: going to badmouth that. like it's each their own just
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: like if somebody wants to blast country music like dude
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: i go for it man like if that's what gets
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: you going if that's what's gonna pump you up and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: motivate you.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I'm probably still gonna be if it's modern country i'm
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: probably still gonna talk shit.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: But again again i will think the shit all i
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: want and i will talk to my car yeah or
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: to my yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: But I will support their, like, if that's what you're into, whatever.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: I support your right to be into that. I don't
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: want anybody telling me what I can't like.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: I don't want to, I don't want to deter them
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: from it. You know what I mean? Like, and again, yeah. Like,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: like the same thing with kids, man. Like I have
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: friends that literally could not wait to have children. And
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: I knew that since I was in college, you know
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: what I mean? Like, like or 15 years ago i'm
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: like oh yeah no i know he wants to be
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: a dad more than anything or oh yeah you know
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: i know she's gonna have kids and and that that's
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: all they wanted to do was like just raise a
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: family and it's not like you know they're trying to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: have a kid by any means i'm saying that that
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: was something that they always wanted it.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Was a goal you know it's like as much as
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: like i want to get this great job equally as
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: much and i want to have a family and like
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: totally totally weird to me like.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah and i guess i just yeah man i i
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: don't remember a time when unless when I was young,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: you know, like a kid still, but when I was
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: even thinking about having kids.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if I had, like I'm thinking back,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know if I had that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: mode then.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, like I feel like my brothers and I,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: like when we were young, you know, have conversations like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: oh man, one of these days we're going to have
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: like a house, like right next door, you know, all
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: of us will live right next door. And then like
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: all of our kids can be playing, you know, with
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: our kids. And like, you know, we were just talking
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: about how like we were always, we were going to
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: have like a massive house that like all of us
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: could live under and, you know, But that was stuff
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: that we would say when we were like eight.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: All of that is true, except you're at the other
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: end of that street and you're like, weird Uncle Dick.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: I know, I'm the guy.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: I know, because I'm that same weird uncle.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say, I'm the weird shut-in uncle,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: but like, you know. I like to give good Christmas
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: gifts and stuff. I want to be the kind of
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: cool guy occasionally, but I also just don't want to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: be that guy that has the kids that nobody in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: the family wants to hang out with. because you know
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: like if i had a kid it would be that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: kid like they'd all be like oh man they're coming
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 5: why are.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: They coming i know it's christmas but why do they
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: have to come.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: Exactly i don't i just don't want my kid to
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: be like the frumpy dumpy kid that's like i don't
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: know i just i i give myself no credit when
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: it would come to raising.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: A child.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: I've just come to that conclusion a long time ago
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: and i again i just take it serious like more
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: serious than i feel like most people with kids like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: they seem like they just like shrug it off and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: i'm just like no no this is so important like
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: i think i just overthink it and they're just like
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: whatever we you know we're pregnant we're having this kid
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: and i'm gonna deal with it and i go to
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: work every day and i raise this family and I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: guess how you have to do it, but I'm, I'm
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: on the other end of it going, no, no, no, no.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: This is a huge responsibility. What are you doing, man?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: I'm, I'm that, that dude in idiocracy in the beginning,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: you know, that's like, well, we're going to wait until
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: we have a good job. Good. Uh, you know, and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: then it's like, well, we're going to wait until the,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: and then by the time they're in their forties and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: fifties are dead.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the morons of the world just continue to crank
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: out children.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, you know, also the good people.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Also, no, I just, I love that part of the movie, actually.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: That whole little scenario is hilarious and yet kind of
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: true because no matter, yeah, always the people with like
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: a perfect life and they have a home and they
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: have money enough to raise a kid. Or the ones
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: that cannot get pregnant. And two teenagers in the back
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: of a pickup somewhere are getting knocked up every time.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. I mean, I have had upwards
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: of 50 and 60 episodes of Maury Povich on a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: DVR at one time. And so, you know, like when
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: you see a woman who's got five or six kids
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: and she's on the show. for her 15th paternity test
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: for the one kid. I'm like, Oh Jesus. Like that's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: all I can think of.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: This is once again, telling me why we need to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: stop having children. Maybe all of us, certainly I need
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: to steer clear of it, but maybe everyone needs to,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: let's just take a break for a generation or so.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I feel like a lot of people are
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: thinking like that nowadays. Like, I mean, I know I
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: certainly don't feel like I need to bring another kid
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: into the planet, you know, because I don't even know
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: if the planet's around in 5, 10, 20. I don't know. Like,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: am I around in 5, 10, 20? Who knows?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: I make that comment daily now. I'm like, you know,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: when we get past all this. Well, if we get past,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm constantly like not selling it out as
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: like it's definitely going to. I'm like, I don't know
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: if we survive this. We'll see what we do. You know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just like. let's be realistic. Who the hell knows
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I'm like a fingers crossed guy, you know?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: I hope for the best, but yeah, I'm assuming it'll
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: be fine. But at the same time, like son of
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: a bitch.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: That's the thing though. I think this is one of
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: those things. And it's, it is interesting how, how blindsided
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: we were, even though we've had many outbreaks over the years,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: we've had things leading up to it, but, this hit
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: in such a monumental, like huge version that like nothing's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: ever going to really be the same. It might go
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: back to being similar, but there are, I mean, it is,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: it is leaving an impact on this generation, these several
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: generations that like, it will always be like a huge
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: part of, of this era of time. This is part
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: of humanity.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: It's yeah that's what is like slowly occurred to me
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: like in the beginning it's just like oh you know
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: it's it's another one of those weird SARS stories on
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: the news and like all these other things we've had
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: similar over the years but just not on this massive
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: scale and And eventually I was just like, no, no,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: this is, this is, it's funny how often people are
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: constantly comparing it to like world war two, you know,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: it's just like that epic scale.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: Of like, or even like Spanish flu and like coming up,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: you know, like they're talking about how even, even when,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: you know, places like San Francisco thought it was all okay.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: It's under control. Then they reopened and it became like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: another massive outbreak.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: And yeah.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. again I definitely agree with you on the things
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: that will change because I mean you know even if
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: it takes away shaking hands or even if it like
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: you know keeps a lot of different companies with people
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: working at home or I don't know even just the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 5: way things are like food handled I don't.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: Know that is like it's funny though that's and I
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: was having this conversation the other day too because we
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: were talking about how much it really is like science
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: fiction And it's funny, I see bits and pieces of
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: movies that I've watched over the years happening in the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: real world now. And I'm just like, is that... I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: then try to, again, because I kind of like weird
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: sci-fi stories and I like some of these dystopian movies.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, if I go ahead and domino
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: it down the line quite a bit, I'm like, do
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: we end up at this point? Are we like... I
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: keep saying, you know, hazmat suits look pretty cool. It'll
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: be great when we all have one. Cause we're all
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: just going to be walking around completely in a bubble.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: Well, even just wearing masks, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: Like that becoming the new norm and like, uh, uh, yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: Like when, when you watch those future movies and you're like, yeah,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: but come on. I mean, when would all of society
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: just got on board with just being inside and with
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: just being like this and that. And then it's like, Oh, yeah,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: I guess it would take something like this for all
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: of society.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the span of a couple of weeks, we
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: hit that. That's the amazing thing is how quick that
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: turn was that like it hit and like everything changed immediately.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: And like we were not prepared. But it is interesting
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: how much it all fell into place. There's not that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: we're not fighting and squabbling over little things night and day.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: but like for the most part, we are like in
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: this new system now of like how we're trying to survive.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: And so you do see like, if you go ahead
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: and things didn't get better and you go ahead, assuming
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: people survive 20 years, like it would be a drastically,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: it would look like a science fiction movie does. And now, yeah.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: So I, I think about that and.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: Well, it's crazy. It's crazy. Even seeing those side-by-side pictures
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: of like India, you know what I mean? And, places that,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: that have a lot of smog and a lot of
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: pollution and stuff. And then you see the side-by-side comparison
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: of a photo from October of last year to April
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: of this year. And the skies are clear and, you know,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: like it looks like a, it looks like a brand
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: new place.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Cause that's what the world wants to do is get
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: rid of its problem. Children, which are humans get it.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: back to the way it probably wants to be. And
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: we're the, we are once again, the, the, the monkey
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: wrench in the plans of this planet.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Well, I mean, in that man, animals have
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: been coming back into cities and like dolphins have been
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: going into like the canals, uh, man, because now there's no,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: there's no little, you know, boats, no, uh, no traffic
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: out there. It's crazy, man.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: It's become its own weird science fiction movie and we're
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: living in it. Oh, so just to round out with
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: some version of what we normally do, we'll bring it back.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: We started with movies. Have you watched anything on your
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: lockdown as you're quarantined? What have you seen lately?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I mean, I don't want to spend
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of time talking about trash television because
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: I watch a lot of that. But, you know, man,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: we watched the latest Rambo, you know, Last Blood.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: I just ended up talking about that last week.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. Let me, we'll let, just to get a differences
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: of opinion here because I, yeah, we got a very
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: specific take last week. I was somewhere in the middle.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: So where do you land on last blood?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: Uh, well, I like Rambo movies and, uh, this movie,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: was about as... I was almost laughing like I do
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: when I watch a Steven Seagal movie from anywhere in
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: the last 15 years.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Or 20 or 25. Oh my God.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: Some of the movies that he has put out like
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: three or four movies a year for like six or
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: seven years.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: And he hasn't been able to kick in about 15.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: No, exactly.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: He can't lift his leg past his knee. Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, man, it's horrifying. But it's great. It was really
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: fantastic to see how they pull it off. But anyway,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: with the new Rambo, I felt like there were a
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: lot of those moments. But at the same time, if
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 5: you laugh at it and just let it go, man,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: the movie was fun. And it was brutal as hell.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: I want to say that it had more gore and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: some of the crazier kills than a lot of recent
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: horror films.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, its wrap-up is nothing but crazy ways to take
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: people out.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. The whole 15-20 minutes of the third act is
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: nothing but killing random people. And I'm like, holy shit!
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: They didn't shy away from some of the most brutal
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: kills of all time.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: But again, much like our earlier conversation, that's kind of
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: what I want. I just want enough of a compound
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: that I can dig some tunnels and be able to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: start taking people out if necessary.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: Is that all your hidden gadgets and your, your booby traps.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: But again, I mean, as far as a Rambo movie,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, dude, the guy's like 70-something years old now.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: The fact that he can still do any of this.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Look at the shape he was in. Look at the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: shape he was in.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: He was just like a giant, roided-out musclehead. And it
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: was like, dude, kick ass, man. Thanks for making this
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: last Rambo movie. If he makes another one, I would
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: be astounded. But at the same time, I'll probably watch it.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: Because even that previous Rambo, when he came back after
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: so long, holy shit.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I said last time. I was like,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: if you don't like this one, but you haven't seen
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: the last one, go back and watch the last one
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: from like 10 years ago. Because That is a hardcore
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: war movie that is brutal as hell. It's surprising how
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: realistic the war part of it was.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 7: Oh, God, dude.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: To me, this one is back to being more of silly, over-the-top,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: gratuitous violence. Of course. Again, I feel like that last
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: one kind of settled in on, hey, you want to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: know how horrible war is? Where this one is just
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: more like, wouldn't it be fun to rip some guy's
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: heart out? Let's go to it.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: I also think, yeah, I think it was also like
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: a sign of the times too, you know, because when
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: the last Rambo came out, look at what was going on,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe they were commenting on specifics and trying
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: to show people that war wasn't the way anymore, you know?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: And again, this last one just felt like it was
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: a send off to the character, you know, like even
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: in the wrap up, I really feel like it was
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: the final one.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: But even then they get, again, we've, I threw the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: spoiler out a week ago, but yeah, I'm like the,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: the fact that they still didn't totally put the nail
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: in the coffin there. There's still that little last second
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: of like, or we might make another, whatever. We don't know.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: That's just it though. That, that's also what you call
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: genius when it comes to filmmaking, especially when it comes
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: to the fifth film. It's like, you know, technically he
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: doesn't have to come back and be a badass Rambo.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: He could be passing the torch to a, to a grandson,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like in the next movie,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: It's only been five truthfully.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: Well, isn't it, isn't it only five?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was, see, that's the thing. I, and
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: I guess we're lucky and, or unlucky in our own, again,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: you you'll understand based on the way you've discussed some
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: of these horrible movies, but like, It was supposed to be.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they pitched many over the years that didn't
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: get made. But after the last one was so successful
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: and people really did like, oh, that was actually surprisingly good.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Then they started writing. And I only know about this
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: screenplay because we talked about it on the show. It's
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: happened in the span of us having the show. And
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: we sat down and we were talking about whatever movie
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: news or something. And one of the things I remember
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: us talking about was after that last movie, they wrote
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: a script and it was at the time potentially going
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: to get greenlit and get made where, and they essentially
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: were taking it into a supernatural realm.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: Basically, um, an alien was going to fall to earth
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: and the government was, Oh shit, what do we do?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: This giant alien creature is going to kill everybody. Oh,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: let's send Rambo to say, I swear this was the story. Again, I,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Would not be surprised there wasn't a screenplay at least.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: It probably got a good amount of the production going
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: before somebody scrapped it. But no joke, it was supposed
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: to be Rambo versus an alien, if not more than
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: one alien. But it was supposed to be.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: So I was just like, I remember at the time going,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: especially coming off that last movie, which had such a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: realistic edge to it, at least as far as the
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: war part was. I was like, why now would we
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: veer into like something crazy like aliens?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Well, now you know where every franchise likes to end.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: In space. Space. in space so maybe that's as he
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: rode off on the horse he was going to strap
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: himself into a rocket and fire himself into the universe.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: I just don't I mean or he's just firing up
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: the spacecraft that he got from the aliens so that
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: he can go and destroy the rest.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Of them I'm gonna go to your planet I'm gonna
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: kill every one of you.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: We know that's gonna yeah that's in our future I suppose.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: Rambo green blood.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: So in a way, like I almost like at the time,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: I certainly like don't silly the fine film franchise that
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: is Rambo. But in a way, like I almost want
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: to see maybe if we don't work the Rambo name.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: But again, like so many of his characters became knockoffs
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: of his of his big famous characters anyway. So like
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: what if we just took Stallone and put him in
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: a movie where he gets to punch out, you know,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: aliens like.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: Well, man, you know, you know, you could because. did
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: you hear, well, you've seen, um, what's the damn Kung Fury?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a long time ago.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: Uh, dude, listen, if you get a chance, Kung Fury
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: is one of those movies that I've probably seen like
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: 15 or 20 times because it's only like 30 minutes long. Uh,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: and it is so epic and so fucking crazy. Um,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: And it's even got a theme song, a full video.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: And I own dude, I own this song and I
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: have driven, I have cruised through the town, blasting this
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: song so many times. The theme song is straight sounding
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: like is came out of the eighties and it was
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: sung by David Hasselhoff. Oh, nice. It is incredible. But
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: the movie came out like maybe four or five years ago.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: And, uh, they've got a sequel, like a full length
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: feature film sequel coming out within the next year. And
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Arnold Schwarzenegger is, is one of the guys in the movie.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: And I want to say he plays the president.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, that's, it was not far off for
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: a while there. Then it can't be any more ridiculous
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: than the world we live in.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: So like, I'm telling you, man, if you get a
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: chance to see Kung Fury, like, you, you will not
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: be disappointed. I mean, everyone from, you know, Thor to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: Adolf Hitler to laser Raptors. And, you know, like you,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: you would be, you'd be surprised.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what's funny is when people that were so
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: used to, and like when they get kind of in
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: a rut or at least they have their, their brand
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: of whatever it is, type of genre that they do.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: And when they like branch out and do other things, Like,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: and I only say this because any chance I get
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: to discuss this movie, but you brought him up earlier.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Against the Dark?
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: I only know about it because, once again, we did
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: an episode on it. And because I saw, I had
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: never heard of it, and I saw it in a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: store and went, oh my God, this is not a
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: real thing. It is Steven Seagal fighting vampires.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: Shut up.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: I wish I know. I mean, I got so much
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: enjoyment out of that specifically because we did an episode.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: So I got to spend like an entire length of
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: an episode just mercilessly making fun of this movie.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, dude.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: It is so badly put together. And that's the thing.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Not just the fact that. There are times when I'm
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: pretty sure that's not even Steven Seagal. Like they just
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: he's wearing this like down to his ankles, big black
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: leather coat. I guess I hide the fact that he'd
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: gotten huge at that point. But this is the point
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: where he was already a big dude.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's already wearing muumuu's in his day to day. Yeah.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: So this is like just I'm going to be a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: tough guy. So I guess I've got to wear a
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: black leather coat instead of a muumuu. But like, I
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: swear there are times when I'm like, I don't even
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: think that's him. They got a body double to just
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: walk down the street because he doesn't even, well, and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: there's bad dubbing involved. I'm like, I don't even think
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: that's his voice sometimes. Like it is a train wreck
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: that brought together this movie. I can only assume. But
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: then on top of that, the fact that he's worked
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: in something of the horror realm and I'm like, he's just,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to be a bad vampire killer kind of
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: a guy, but it's, He's more like, it's like a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: special ops group, but for killing vampires. And then sometimes
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: the vampires act like zombies, not vampires. Again, there's just
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: like bad, basic horror writing.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: Oh my God.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: It's going to infuriate you, I'm sure.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: Right, they're not even familiar with vampire canon. They don't
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: have any, there's no rules really.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just inconsistencies.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: They're like, no, no, no, he was killed with a
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: silver bullet.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Well, sometimes they're mindless drones trying to just kill him.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: And then at one point one stops. and gives this
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: soliloquy this big long speech and like but they were
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: mindless monsters a minute ago like did you guys not
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: read the other pages that somebody wrote probably not the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: same writer but as you pasted this bullshit together did
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: you not notice the inconsistency oh so yeah this is
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: this is one yeah if we're putting it on your.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: List i oh i just did against the dark uh
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: tell me now uh does he have a love scene
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: in the.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: Movie thankfully no well unless you count the the mashed potatoes.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: I didn't oh yeah well because dude he finds a
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: way every goddamn movie To put himself in a very
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: uncomfortable love scene with somebody a third his age.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: And it is horrifying. I feel like that's real life
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: all of his life. Oh, of course. Every time he
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: was involved in that, it was a horror story. And
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: probably with a girl a third his age.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: Of course. He's like a total me too-er.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 9: Yup.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: He's, I mean, I legitimately, he's part.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Of that list. Not to make light of that. Like he,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: the things that we know he's, let alone the things
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: that he's probably done that didn't see the light of day,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: but yeah.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: No, he's a, he's a terrible person. Anyway, I just, yeah,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: I will definitely be watching this movie because, uh, I
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: love a good train wreck, man. Like Steven Seagal films
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: are fantastic.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to make sure you knew about it.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Cause it also crosses over with horror, which I know
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: you're on board with. So this is just a collision
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: of two horrible trains.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a win-win right there, man. I, because also when,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: when you were mentioning the, the, stunt double and stuff, man, they,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: they use in every, in all of his recent movies,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 5: he uses a stunt double to walk up the stairs.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: He uses a stunt double for everything. I mean, he
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: was legitimately like swollen and purple and he's like out
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: of breath from talking. So when you say that he
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: was dubbed over, I don't doubt that either.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: That's yeah. That was the funniest part. I was like,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: he needed a stunt double for his voice.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He's got mush mouth, I'm telling you. Like, this guy, he's,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: and he's still cranking out movies. And it'll even sometimes say, like,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 5: written by Steven Seagal. You're just like, of course it was.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: From an idea he had on the toilet of Steven Seagal.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: He's, like, on the set of a current movie writing
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: his next movie.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: On the back of a napkin somewhere.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, Lord.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate the heads up on that film.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I, for you, I probably will recommend it
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: for everyone else. I will probably, I will at least
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: give you fair warning. If you watch it, you got
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: yourself into this because I'm telling you it is a nightmare,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: but if you're the kind of person who enjoys that
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: level of nightmare, then you might, you might have a
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: good time with it.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 5: Oh man.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, I just added the movie, uh, dead or killer couch.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know of it. I have not sat down
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: and watched it.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: I haven't watched it yet.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: It's getting watched.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: Best believe. Well, actually, I will say we've recently been
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: on an Indiana Jones kick. Speaking of aliens, I had
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: never seen the Kingdom of Crystal Skull.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: Like, never? Okay.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: No, I hadn't.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 5: I heard a lot of people bitching about it. It
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: was like, you know, when I finally saw it and
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, wait a minute, I guess I didn't
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: really know what people, I mean, it was, it was ridiculous.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was one of those movies. I mean,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: like somebody, they were like swinging on a vine with
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: monkeys and I don't know, like the movie was outrageous,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: but at the same time, uh, if you watch all
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: the old ones, which we've been going back and watching
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: those two, dude, they're all pretty outrageous.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: I just, it's funny. I just on the last episode
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: made this exact comment. Because I was like, they said
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: something about bad mouthing that for, or I brought it
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: up because I think it's always fun. But I'm like,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: people got so outraged by that movie. And I'm like,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: have you seen Temple of Doom? They do ridiculous things
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: in Temple of Doom. Like, I'm sorry. And I love it,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: but it's ridiculous.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: Well, one of the big complaints looking it up was
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: like that it had aliens or that, you know, whatever.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, hold up. You think that's too far-fetched
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: for Indiana Jones? The very first movie, there's the goddamn
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 5: Ark of the Covenant and melting faces because they looked
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: at spirits. If you think aliens are too much, just
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 5: too much.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: It is one of those it's going into a different territory.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: I do wonder, I was like, if they just would
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: have not done that part. If they just would have
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: sent them on some other mission and it was kind
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: of the same bullshit and sort of fighting the same people.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: But in the end we didn't have the end that
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: we did. Like would people have really gotten on board
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: with it? Like it, is it really just that much
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: of a nudge over here that like would change people
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: because they love the other three?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, see, I guess I, I feel like aliens
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: were too much of a stretch and religion wasn't, you
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Because, uh, uh, I guess, wait, man. Yeah.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: because some of the stuff that those first three movies,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, even last true state has so many moments
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: that are supernatural and you're like, well, but that, that
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: if you're okay with that, but then you don't like this.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: And again, I feel like aliens are, uh, you know, very,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: very different for Indiana Jones, but also, I mean, shit, the,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: there are those ancient artifacts that are tied to alien theories.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: And so he's we've done the religious thing, I mean,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: multiple times. So I guess the only other sort of
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: supernatural sort of, you know, out there thing would be aliens.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I just I went into it with
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: the mindset of, wow, everyone hated this movie. I'm probably
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: not going to like this, you know, and I also
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: hate Shia LaBeouf.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's the other thing. And I brought that
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: up last episode. I was like, we're going to try
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: to go back and recast. Who would we have put
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: in there at that time? And I think anybody else
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: might have, maybe not saved the movie, but that's across
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: the board. Everybody's like, oh, I hate this mutt. Why
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: is he in here?
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: You could have put Gilbert Gottfried in there and I
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: would have been fine with it.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: Interesting choice, but yeah, I still feel like people might
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: not have complained as much.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: I just felt like, man, I can't stand it. And
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: I felt like they, they spent a lot of the
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: movie trying to pass the torch to him. And then,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: then the whole like, Oh, the reveal of the end.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: And I was like, Oh God damn it. You know?
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: And so again, I, I could see also why people
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: bitched about that maybe, but I don't know. I, I
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: didn't think the movie was terrible and I was not
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: expecting much.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: I'm glad somebody finally, cause I, I remember when it,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: finally came out or well I mean I saw it
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: and then like when it came out and it was
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 3: like almost immediately cheap so I think somewhere on DVD
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: I have a copy of it just because I was
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: like I don't know I got the rest of them
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: why would I not so like yeah I haven't watched
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: it since I bought it and I'm like I think
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: back on it and I'm like there's parts of it
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: I think I really remember were pretty cool like the
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: whole graveyard scene and fighting the skeleton guys and I'm
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: like that was pretty, that was very Indiana Jones. Like
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: I kind of want to go back and watch the
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: good parts of it too.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: Totally. Like, like that was a hot set right there. Like,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: and the movie still had a lot of that, like
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of moments. But then again, I also, there
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: were lots of moments where I was laughing, like out loud,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 5: like straight laughing, like, come on. Because, you know, like
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: when they introduce new rules and then they don't follow
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: the rules they introduced, like with the whole tossing gunpowder
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: in the air and letting it magnetize, you know, towards
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: where the right crate was in a warehouse. It's like, OK,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: but so in some scenes, metal and everything is like
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: clinging and warping towards this one thing. but a minute ago,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: nobody felt anything. And you know, like, I don't know,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: they introduced this magnetic pole thing early in the movie,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: like right in the beginning. And then by the end
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: of the movie, they're using it again. And it just
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: doesn't work. It doesn't fit into its own rules that they,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: that they have established, you know? And that, and that's
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: another thing where I'm like, man, you got, it's tricky.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's so hard to get a movie, right? Like,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: and that's what I find fascinating is when we do
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: get them. Cause I say that all the time. The
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: fact that any movie comes out good is a miracle.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: Like the amount of movie parts and things that could
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: go wrong that, you know, the fact that somehow you
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: fix all those problems and salvage a movie that's watchable
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: out of it is great. But like, when you look
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: at something like that, like, that is the biggest director
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: in the world. The biggest executive producer in the world,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: the unlimited budget. One of the biggest names in the
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: industry is your star. Like you have everything handed to you.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: And still with all of that, like it gets, it
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: gets fumbled. You know, it's like, you still end up going, oops,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: that one didn't work out. Did it?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: And I will say this though, you, you just hit
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: the nail on the head though. They were in charge
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: of everything. So like, You know, when you when you
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: hear about, uh, some of our favorite films, man, like we're,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: we're not meant to be the way that they came
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: out because there were other people in charge and that
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: held the reins and they were like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: This doesn't work. So you're going to do it differently.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? And then they forced the
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: writer and they forced the director to, into re-imagining something
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: or to redoing this or into adding something that they
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 5: didn't originally want. And then the movie becomes the thing
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: we all fell in love with.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I have a perfect example. And not only is
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: it perfect, it's extra perfect because it's the same director, Jaws.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: The reason Jaws is so good is because most of
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: the movie, you don't see the shark. you know the
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: reason because the shark didn't work because the shark was
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: a nightmare and he had to be super creative and
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: work okay well let's rewrite this scene so that we
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: just see the person get killed and then we don't
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: see the shark and then right we'll save the shark
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: for a big finale or whatever but like the reason
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: that that movie is so suspenseful and works so well
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: is because we don't see the shark yep had he
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: done it the way he wanted it when he envisioned
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: and and wrote the screenplay or you know all of
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: the stuff that was originally laid out was the shark
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: was in there no whole damn time right.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: Right and imagine if he were if he was able
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 5: to go through and redo it now you know how
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: many cg cartoony because i mean dude they did the
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 5: same thing with et when they re-released that uh you know,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 5: and they went through and added, uh, we.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: Really needed those walkie talkies. Come on now.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not even, yeah, I'm not even complaining about
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: that part yet. I'm talking, even when they added like
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 5: him in the bathtub, like ET in the bathtub, they
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: added a few different scenes that were just completely unnecessary.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: And it almost looked like, like the animation from like
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: a Kool-Aid commercial at the time or something. Yeah. Or
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: like gushers, you know, like something like that, because it
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: was just, it felt really out of place, but it
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: felt like, Oh, okay. So now he's got a budget.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: He can throw in some, some CG shit here. And then,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: you know, it just, I don't know. It loses its
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: realistic feel because it wasn't the puppet. It wasn't the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: thing that he was, you know, using throughout the other,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: the rest of the movie.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: But he just had that option. Hey, you get to
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: redo it. You get to touch it up and add
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: all this new slick shit.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's why I try to figure out where the
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: dividing line is because I've always said like, you know, being, being,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: a broke filmmaker makes you super creative. And we always
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: get these like real works of art that are probably
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: really early in the director's career. you look at even like,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it was several years later by
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: the time he's doing last crusade, he's got all the
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: money he needs. It's the same director. It's the same
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: story by executive producer. So why does that work? But
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: you give it an extra 15, 20 years and let
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: them do it again. And it just misses across the board.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: Like we'll see.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: Now you're also talking about 20 years of age and, and, and,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: A lot of times, man, and it's not to say
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: that people can't stay current and can't stay up on
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: things because a lot of creators have proven that they can,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: you know, even in older years and, you know, later
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: in their life. But imagine like, you know, there are
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 5: musicians that change their entire style because something in their
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: life happens or something, you know, what did they say that?
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: the reason that Temple of Doom was so dark anyway
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: was because they, you know, George Lucas was in a
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: bad place in his life and Steven Spielberg had just
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: gotten divorced.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 5: Yep. Again, again, I really feel like, you know, the
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: Steven Spielberg that made Last Crusade is probably not the
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: same Steven Spielberg that made Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: Well, definitely not. Cause he, like he, when you look
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 3: at the ones he's making now, you don't have that.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: like there's the stuff that he's making now is usually
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: like people being responsible parents versus when he was young,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: like he had no problem doing like, because he was like,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: all of his were coming out of this, you know,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: broken home and trying to tell a realistic story about
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: a family that's in a bad position. You know, it's
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: like he was coming from that, whereas he's done nothing
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: but be with his child the whole time. So like
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: now he can't be that guy anymore. Like he doesn't
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: know how, there's no, they've said this for years. Like
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: they know spoilers for close encounters, but like, I'm assuming
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: you know the Indian. Well, the guy is a father.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: We watched him with his kids, the entire movie. He
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: gets on that ship and flies away. He leaves his
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: children behind. And like, there's no way Steven Spielberg now
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: could ever conceive of making that movie. Yeah. Because he's
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: in a different place in his life. And like, that's,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: And that's technically, like, that's also even the technology angle
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: of it coming into play kind of makes that worse.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 5: Of course, dude, of course.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: Because to me, you know, I still marvel at how
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: good that first Jurassic Park is. The second one just doesn't.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: feel the same it just doesn't hit that that that
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: place that the first one does even though it's not
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: that much time but by the second one he's he's
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: got his family he's dealing with like he wants to
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: be with his family they were the way i heard
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: it was they had just at that point gotten to
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: the point where they could like hook it up and
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: like have a camera running so he could actually be
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: at home talking to them like through a laptop or
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: something so half of the scenes he was sitting at
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: home with his kids and telling them oh no um
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: shoot that again yeah yeah he wasn't even on set
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of the time because he wanted to be
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: home with his kids and there was a technology thing
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: suddenly that he could do that and so he's literally
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: phoning it in And you feel it when you watch
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: that movie. It's just not as good.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: Well, see, I'm in the camp that I enjoyed the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: second movie. Once it got to the third movie, I
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 5: was done.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: Well, by then, he's not even directing anymore. I guess
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: he's still slapping his name on it. But that second
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: one he directed, but you still feel a disconnect compared
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: to that first movie.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: I get that. No, I mean, it felt like a
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 5: different movie, but it was still one of those movies that,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, I've rewatched it multiple times. I enjoy the movie.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: There's lots of scenes that I consider classic moments, you know,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: and not completely cheeseball. Like, you know, in, oh, man,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: what was that last Jurassic World? Like, it wasn't the
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 5: first one with Channing Tatum.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: It was the second one.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 5: Or not Channing Tatum. Yeah.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like the other blonde hung.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, what's the other Chris, Chris Pratt.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: Chris Pratt. Yeah. Uh, so like it was the second
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: one with him. I could not believe how much I
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 5: didn't like it. And the first one with him, I
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: thought was pretty good.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: Like, They do some interesting things in that first one that,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: that like more than you would expect it, you would want,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: you would assume it's just going to be like a
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: rehash and, but like they find a way to make
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: some interesting like comments on the movie itself, the first movie,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: like it does more than you would expect something like
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: that to do.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, totally. Plus it finally delivers on the, the fantasy
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: that everyone had of seeing a fully functional park, you
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? A fully functional park. uh, theme park.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: And then you get that, that big feel that, that big, uh,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: that epic disaster feel, you know, it's almost like, like, uh,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: in piranha 3d, the feeling that they, I mean, again,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that hate on that movie,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: but that movie is hilariously like it is what, I mean,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: it is very self-aware.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: I was going to say that one knows it's being
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: hilarious and fine with it.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: But I, I, I'm only comparing the feel of when
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: they set up for the stage, uh, of, oh, wow,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: this is a huge spring break thing. All these people
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 5: are out partying. They're all having a good time. This
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: is like beaches, water, boats, music, everything. And you know
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 5: that this prehistoric basically disaster, that this massacre is heading
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: towards this huge populated, fun, happy-go-lucky. And everything that is
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: crystal clear and blue is about to get red and
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 5: just crazy. You know, and that's the feel that I
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: got in that in that whatever Jurassic world, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: Where it was just like, man, you know, the movie
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 5: felt fun and it felt like Jurassic Park reimagined, you know,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 5: while still bringing it up to speed and giving us
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of new moments. And so that's why, man,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: I was not expecting much at all from that movie
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 5: and ended up liking it. But then the second one,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 5: whatever it was called, it was just like, oh, God,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 5: I don't even know what they were doing. And it
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: was almost to the point where I hope they weren't
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: going to make another one.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Once you get that franchise rolling, it's
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: hard to stop them.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: Well, did you see the second one? I mean, I did.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like to me, I guess that says
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: a lot about it that I'm like, I kind of
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: can't even remember the basic.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: Like, whereas I do remember Jurassic world, but like the
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: second one, I'm like, I remember a, horror scene with
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: the brontosaurus or brachiosaurus or like right i remember that
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: and like that stuck with me because that is a
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: horrific scene but like other than that i'm like i
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: don't really even remember a lot of what was going.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: On yeah see and you know now that i'm like
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: sitting here and to pull up the parts I didn't
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: like in my brain I'm like yeah I'm actually drawing
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: a blank because I'm like I.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: Think that says a lot about it yeah I know.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: I watched it once and I was like I feel
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: like I remember waiting for it to end like, like
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: going like, Oh my God, does this movie still have
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: 40 fucking minutes? You know, whereas in Jurassic world, I mean,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like I saw that one in the theater
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 5: and it was fun, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 5: But again, I see what you're saying as far as
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: that second film from Spielberg being different because he was
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: literally not there.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it became easier. Again, the younger version of his,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: I think, would have never even considered doing that. But also,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: there was no technological way for that to happen. So
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: both have changed so much. Yeah, in 20 years, it's
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 3: like technology changes, makes things easier to do.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 5: And you're 20 years.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: Into your career, and you're just like, eh, I don't
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: really have those scraps to get by anymore. Yeah.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 5: Dude, that's exactly it. Or if somebody were to tell you, oh, no,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 5: I don't like that ending. You're going to be like,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I'm fucking Steven Spielberg. My homeboy Lucas is
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 5: making this fucking movie. You can and you will deal
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 5: with the ending. You know what I mean? Like, I'm
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: sure that they aren't budging on a lot of shit.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 5: Whereas probably, you know, they.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: Told him he was wrong all day, every day. And
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: he was like, all right, fine. I'll try to. fix
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: this and I'll readjust that. And like, he, he was
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: continually being told that he was doing everything wrong and
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: they were going to take the movie away from him.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 5: Well, have you seen, have you seen the movie series
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 5: that they've got? I think there's only four of them,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 5: but it's like on Netflix called the movies that made
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 5: us again.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: I know the title. I haven't gotten to it yet.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: Well, man, that, that they're just full of like, they
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 5: are full of stories exactly like that. And so when you're,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: when you're watching the thing about home alone, you know,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: and about how that movie got made. I mean, dude,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 5: it's a miracle that we even have that fucking movie. And, uh,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: and like John Candy, uh, apparently did it for free.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: He like just did it as a favor to John Hughes.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 5: And like, he ended up shooting for like, I think
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: they said 26 hours and he just, he told him, Hey,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 5: you can have one day. And so he went and
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 5: filmed for, I don't know, you just find out all
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 5: these things, but then you find out things that the
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: studio was like, Oh no, we're not going to have
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 5: them do that. And Nope, they can't do this. And
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 5: then they're like, Oh fuck. So then they rewrite something
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 5: and that becomes the most classic moment. You know what
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: I mean? And so again, when, when there's no, when
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 5: there's no obstacle and nothing standing in your way and
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: you're able to do anything you want, I feel like
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 5: same with musicians, man. I feel like sometimes that's when they're,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: they're at their worst. I mean, sometimes they can be
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 5: at their best, but then, man oh man sometimes.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah I mean that holds true I think the same
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: thing is like when I think of the classic albums
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: like a lot of them are the first album that
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: they came out with or maybe the first or you
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: know at the first couple of years but like it's
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: rare that it's and then 30 years in they came
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: out with this great album it's usually like oh god
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: they're still making stuff like right well sometimes sometimes not
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: always but yeah.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah Sometimes it works out fine. But then sometimes you're
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 5: just a band phoning the shit in and it sounds
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: worse and worse and worse.
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: And directors. Yeah. It's like, there are ones that it's
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: amazing that they'll still be knocking out solid stuff that
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 3: far into their career. And there's other people that a
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: decade in and you're like, Ooh, well they're wrapping it up.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: Like we can already see them phone in the van.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 5: There have been some people that I have been so
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 5: excited for just to see their career go. And then
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 5: suddenly it's like, wait, wait, what are they doing?
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 7: Wait, no.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: And then suddenly you're just like, Oh, all right. I
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: guess they're the producer of their own remake now. And
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 5: I guess they're, I don't know. It gets, yeah. Sometimes
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 5: you just watch, but again, man, it's up to each person,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 5: you know, like some people are meant to do this
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 5: and some people are meant to have a few good
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 5: things and then they, then they fizzle out.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you, you, like I said, any movie
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: comes together is amazing. So like, as a fan, you just,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: appreciate the good ones that do and like have fun
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: with the ones that don't, if you're lucky.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 5: So, yeah. Well, and I can even, I can even
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 5: appreciate a lot of movies that even if I don't
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 5: care for them, you know, I can go, well, look, dude, honestly,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 5: sometimes they have good performances. Sometimes, uh, I, I know
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 5: the background behind the movie. I'm like, yo, uh, these
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: guys were hating life. The, you know, like this movie
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 5: shouldn't even have been made or whatever it is.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: I will give, I will give points for scope and
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: spectacle and like, When you're swinging for the fences, even
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: when you miss, and it's a big miss, the fact
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: that you made this train wreck, sometimes that's easily as
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: interesting as if it would have come together the way
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: that you hope it would.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 5: I will say, let me go in the opposite direction
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 5: of that. Have you seen Jay and Silent Bob reboot?
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 7: Oh, wow.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: I just watched it last week.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 5: Oh God. Uh, dude, listen, man.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 5: I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Like, did you, did
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: you enjoy his other movies like back in the day?
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing. I was a huge fan when
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: he started. Like, I like it was, yeah, I, it,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: it really did like for a lot of filmmakers. Cause
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: you saw a lot of people ripping off what he
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: was doing, but like he was, he was part of
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: that early to mid nineties. Like, movement that like changed
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 3: movies like yep tarantino's the forefront of it but but
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: kevin smith was like right there behind him and like
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of things that came after were mimicking what
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 3: they did that that worked and like so i was
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 3: so on board with like again i i think i
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 3: think clerks is amazing i i still stand by chasing
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: amy i love the screenplay and the performances mall rats
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: is fun it's ridiculous but you see you already see
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: the seed right there of like how wrong it could
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 3: go very.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 5: Easily well but see i love mall rats is still
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 5: a cherished movie for me because i i mean i
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 5: that was the first time i ever cut school it
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 5: was my 17th birthday and i was old enough to
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 5: go see a rated r movie so i.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's still parts of it I love. There's
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: still performances I love, but you can find the flaws
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: in that one. Of course, of course. Laringly. So like,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: but it's funny that I see that same stuff come
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: through now in the more recent stuff. And like, there
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: is nothing else holding it together. Like it's all of
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 3: those flaws times 10 and it becomes.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's all it was. That's all it was.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: So that's the thing. But so I didn't even, I
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: couldn't even bring myself to watch that last. whatever the
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: hell it was. Like I just saw the trailer and
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to stab my eyes out.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 5: I was like, Oh, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. The,
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 5: the reboot one.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: No, the one before that.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 5: Uh, what was the one before that?
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: Oh God. Let me look it up. Cause I blocked it.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 5: Wait a minute. I, I know.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: Convenience store girls.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes. That, that was, uh, okay. Well now,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 5: wait a minute. That, that movie he made for kids, uh, And.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 3: I don't like I was so angry coming off of
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: Tusk that by the time by the time we got
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: the yoga hosers, I was like, I can't I can't
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: do it. I can't even. OK, OK.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 5: I will say Tusk was Tusk is one of those
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 5: movies that I give him mad credit for because it
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 5: started off as a joke. And it was on a
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 5: podcast where they made a joke about making a movie
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 5: about this this guy. And then it turned into, oh
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 5: my God, dude, we should totally make a movie and
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 5: make it just like... And then they asked people, hey,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 5: would you ever want to see a movie like this?
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 5: And whatever. And then they got it made. And I
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 5: think they did, especially with the actors they chose, I
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 5: think they did as good a job as anyone could
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 5: do with that kind of a plot. And then I
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 5: feel like the ending of the movie is the only
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 5: thing that destroyed it for me. And... But that's, that's the,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 5: I feel the same way about high tension. And I
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 5: consider high tension. One of my favorite horror movies where
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 5: I just feel like the ending, the very end is
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 5: a piece of shit ending. And, but at the same
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 5: time in the credits of Tusk, they play the podcast
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 5: that leads to the movie. And the ending, they mention
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 5: it in the podcast as the joke. They're like, but
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: at the end, he's got to like have him in
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 5: like some sort of a zoo or something. And like
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 5: they play the full podcast during the credits or they
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 5: play that full segment that led to the movie. And
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 5: so that's.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: To me, that's one of those examples. The thing is,
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 3: I was there for that. Again, I still liked him enough.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: I was listening to several of his podcasts when he
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: crossed over into that. So when that first aired... I
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: listened to it that week. I heard the story as
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: Ian and Scott were telling it. And I'm just like,
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 3: this is a great episode. I love it. So to me,
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, by the time I watched the movie,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 3: at best, I was like, I already know all this.
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 3: I already know the plot.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 5: Beat for beat.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: I get it. So at best, it's a rehash. And like,
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: so this is one of those that like, I feel
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: like the story of it is by far more interesting
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: than the movie that came out of it.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: He should have just capped it at the podcast and went,
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: this is a great episode where we came up with
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: this crazy idea for a movie. You didn't need. to
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: make the movie like the episode was the best part.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 5: Well but see now getting to see justin long in
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 5: that freaking suit was hilarious and i feel like i
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: feel like he writes really like like when he has
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 5: something to say about anything i feel like he can
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 5: write something uh compelling Yeah, definitely. Did you see Red State?
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 3: That's my only weird one-off. I think Red State is great. Dude,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 3: I think Red State is brilliant. I think it's maybe
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: the best directing he's ever done because he has visual style,
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: the camera moves. He makes his own jokes about the
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 3: fact that the camera never moves in his movies. So finally,
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's... Because at that point, he'd
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 3: almost given up as a filmmaker. He was already going
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: to retire.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, I feel the same way, dude.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 3: And he came out and made Red State. And I
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, maybe he's back. He's got his second
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: wind and he's going to really be a really cool
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 3: and innovative filmmaker again. And then he followed it up
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 3: with Tusk. And I'm like, I'm done. I'm done.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 5: No, I got you. And again, that's why I felt
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 5: like he brought a lot of tension to it. And
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 5: I did not listen to the podcast that led to it.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 5: I didn't know anything other than This was a Kevin
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 5: Smith horror movie about a guy being turned into a walrus.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 5: And that's all I heard. And that's all I knew.
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 5: And so again, I, when I heard that Kevin Smith
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 5: was doing a horror movie about radio with red state,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 5: I was already like, wait, what? He's doing a horror movie,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 5: you know? And then, uh, I loved it. And so
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 5: I went into it with kind of open arms and
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: I will say the only thing aside from the ending
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 5: that drove me absolutely nuts was I fucking hate it.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 5: I cannot stand Johnny Depp.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: That's the other, like to me, that's the part I
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: was just like, like I was, again, I was already
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: kind of bored with the plot because I knew it all.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: But then when you like ham fisted, shove this horribly
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: made up Johnny Depp over the top performance into it,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 5: I cannot.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: In this like right to me the only bright spot
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: michael parks is amazing like i think even in this
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: ridiculous movie michael arts was.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 5: Brilliant like that's what i'm saying.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 3: As a as an actor he was always nailing it
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: no matter what terrible movie he got shoved into like.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah so like i do yeah i do feel like
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 5: he he stole the show in so many moments dude
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 5: oh yeah There were just a, but again, I feel
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 5: like he was given, he was given insane shit to
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 5: work with and they pulled it off. And then for
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 5: what it was, the movie I thought was fine, but
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 5: it's one of those movies. I I've seen it twice
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 5: and I don't plan on really rewatching it again. And, and,
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 5: you know, like dude, and then yoga hosers I saw
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 5: one time and I was drawing while I was watching it.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 5: It was what it was. It was like, it was
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 5: something I could never recommend to anybody. But I'm also like, dude,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 5: I don't care, man. Some of my drawings are shit.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 5: Some of my favorite artists put out the worst music.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? But then they follow it
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 5: up with something I enjoy. So it's like, whatever. The reboot, though. Dude, I...
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 5: jess and i turned it off after about 10 minutes
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 5: 50 or maybe maybe 15 or 20 minutes we we
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 5: made it at one point it was like oh my
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 5: fucking god how much can he suck his own dick
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 5: in one movie and not make a joke.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: That's the problem it just became because even they already
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 3: started getting into that that's why i think those first
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: three maybe the fourth one i think I think dogma
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: could have been a great movie without Jay and silent Bob.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's got amazing ideas in it. And then
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: it's got Jay and silent Bob tripping over things and like,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: it just be an idiots the whole time. And I'm like,
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 3: you know, if you took them out of this, this
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: could be a really interesting movie. But so like outside
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 3: of that, by the time they get the Jay and
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: Silent Bob strike back, it already became so many in
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 3: jokes in their own little universe that I'm like, it
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: barely had a plot then. So like this is that
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: times 10. This is that with the last couple of decades,
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: however freaking long it's been since we started this process.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: Like it's just so inside its own self that there
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 3: can't be a joke. They're just references. They're just constant
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 3: references to his other stuff.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 5: The only thing I could compare it to was like the,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 5: the 30 minutes I've seen of like Epic movie or
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 5: date movie or whatever the one it was where it
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: was like, these, these aren't jokes. These are just like
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: callbacks to a movie or, or this is just dressing
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 5: somebody up like Spider-Man and hitting them with a frying pan.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 3: Like it does.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 5: It's not a joke. And that's all Silent Bob reboot was.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, I watched it in its entirety. And by
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: the end, I'm like, I'm kind of glad I saw it.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, wait, wait. I meant to preface it. I finished
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 5: the movie.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 5: We watched the first 20 minutes together. And then I
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 5: finished watching it later on that night when I was working.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 5: Because I still was like, no, no, no. I love
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 5: Kevin Smith.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: I owe it.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 5: I do want to see this through. And yeah, now
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 5: you can go. I just don't want you to think
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 5: that I, I turned it off and, and then I'm,
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about the movie. Like I finished it, but
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 5: I literally finished it.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: Well, then that was my thing. It's like, I, by
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: the end, I'm like, well, I'm glad I've seen it
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: because I just wanted to see the, the rest. Like I, again,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: I had such ties to those original couple of movies,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 3: if not the first four or so that I'm like, I,
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 3: I at least want to see, I'm like, did, did
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: he get everybody to come back? Like, I wanted to
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: see what they did with them. Like, so as a,
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: as a Kevin, as an old school, Kevin Smith geek,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, I at least want to see what
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: they do. And there are moments like that. There are
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: times by the time they get to the end where
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 3: they're sort of commenting because since he's become a thing,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 3: like the convention world has erupted that didn't exist when
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: I started. So like sometimes the jokes in there, I'm like, okay,
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 3: you're just kind of making fun of the new like
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: community that's built up around this. Like that's fun. Or
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's playing himself at a convention. Like
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: there are moments there where I'm like, this could be
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: really clever. If you took about 90% of what's going
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: on here out of the way, you've got a decent
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: concept of something that could be clever and And instead
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: you're just piling too much shit on at the same time.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 5: Well, and also not even like, not even jokes. Like,
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 5: like again, the lack of material, like when he's up
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: there talking, it could be, it really could have been
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 5: a funny thing because I was even like, Oh wow.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 5: They're doing like a fourth wall, like, like Jameson and
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 5: Bob in the audience, the real guy on the screen
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 5: or whatever. But then at the same time, or the
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 5: real guy on stage, but at the same time, even
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 5: in that moment, it has to, it had to keep
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 5: having his daughter lean over and go, I fucking hate
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 5: this guy. God, we get it. Kevin Smith, you suck
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: at this. And I'm like, okay, okay.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: We get it.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: He did it through the entire... They're like, what? It's
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 5: being directed by fucking Kevin Smith? That fucking piece of...
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 5: And then they keep... Again, if they did it once,
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 5: it would be plenty. But the fact that every joke
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 5: was not a joke. And then I will say, the
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 5: one redeeming scene.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you're, I was just going to say,
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: going back to if he has something to say, he
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: can say it well. I'm assuming you're going to say
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: the same thing I was about to.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no. I'm probably not.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 5: Because, first of all, this scene really didn't say a
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 5: whole lot. Well, okay, maybe it did. The scene with
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 5: our main characters, Jay and Sonic Bob, finally getting a
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 5: chance to sit and smoke with Method and Redman. you know,
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 5: but like to me, to me, I was like, Oh wow.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 5: That's kind of like, as far as movie crossovers go,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 5: that's kind of like a fun stoner film crossover because
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 5: now you have these two guys that were in a
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 5: half baked ish style stoner film, you know, and they
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 5: are known as BFFs and stoners, whatever. So I thought
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 5: that was like, Oh cool. This is a, this is
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 5: a great moment. But then Jane saw Bob don't even
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 5: smoke with them. And it's not even a funny moment.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 5: And then you're like, Oh, well shit.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 3: I was just like, those two are still out there.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 5: Holy shit. I was glad to see that. But now what,
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 5: what was the scene that you thought I was going
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 5: to say?
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: No, mine, like the only tech. Cause then I'm again,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 3: I get to the end and I'm like, well, I
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 3: may be glad I watched it just for that because it's,
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 3: it's back to like that there's with all of those.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: Cause even like in the, in the in-between times when
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 3: like every once in a while, he'd come out with
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: a weird movie. Cause that's the same thing with like
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: Zach and Miri. Like most of it's ridiculous bullshit. But
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 3: then like, there's a few moments where I'm like, Oh no,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: that's a really heartfelt thing that he wrote. That was
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 3: like Kevin legitimately saying something. And like, and then a
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: bunch of stupid chickens piled on top of it. When
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: we get to the point of when, again, that was
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: half my thing is like, did he get Affleck to
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 3: come back? Affleck giving that whole speech about being a
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: parent to tie back to our previous discussion. When he
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: launches into that thing about being a parent, I'm like,
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: holy shit. He's really saying something here. This really is
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: something important that he had to say. And it's the
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: only thing in this entire fucking movie that has any
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 3: weight to it and has anything. And luckily again, as
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: much shit as he takes Ben Affleck is a good actor.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 3: And like, so when he shows up, like he, kind
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: of nails that scene and like you really get that
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: moment of like this is the this is finally what
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 3: used to be Kevin what in that first movie there
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: were moments that he legitimately had talent and was just
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: writing from the heart and like trying to do something
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: and it could work in silly really ridiculous jokes along
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: the way but it had something at its core and
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: like we lost that along the way in.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 5: So many movies well i mean even he talks about
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 5: it i mean like you know he looks back at
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 5: movies like what was the jersey girl a cop out
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 5: what was the other one like everybody bitched about um
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 5: mostly jersey.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 3: Well jersey girl cop out everybody bitched well, I already
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 3: bitched about Geely and he gets blamed for that because
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: he didn't make that, but it came out at the
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: same time Jersey girl did and it ruined Jersey girl
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 3: and everything around it basically.
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 5: And it was also tied to Ben Affleck. So, you know,
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he gets a little bit of blame for that. But, uh,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, also when you say about that speech too, uh,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 5: about being a father, not only is Kevin Smith, the father,
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 5: and not only has he had, you know, life changing
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 5: events that happened since, you know, before even making this movie, uh,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 5: but then also Ben Affleck as a father, you know
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 5: what I mean? And he's had life changing events.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: And as you saw, did you see at the end
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 3: of it, the little girl on the floor that he's
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 3: talking about? Yes. That's Jason Mewes kid.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 5: Dude, it's crazy.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: Once again, who the hell let Jason, if anybody back
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 3: to our previous speech doesn't need to be having a kid.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 5: Jason Mewes for the love of God. That's another thing though.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 5: That's another thing. Who knows? Because, uh, I, I, I've
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 5: read about a movie that is either, I think it's
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 5: made and I think it's being shown at film or
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 5: it was festivals. Like, like I think it might be
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 5: called something like leading man or whatever, but it's a
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 5: movie where I want to say Kevin Smith might, I
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 5: don't even know if he's in it or maybe he
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 5: is anyway. It's written and directed by and starring Jason Mewes.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 5: And it's about him, like wanting to make it as
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 5: like a legitimate actor or one, or like, I.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: Think I saw the trailer for it.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. And so again, I feel like, because I
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 5: had also read the Kevin Smith, uh, like, like paid
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 5: to even help with Jason news teeth. And like, you know,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 5: he's helped him get clean and, uh, Well, I mean.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: No, that's again, back when I was still listening to
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: all the shows, like that's one of the ones that I, when,
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 3: when they started doing the first Jay and Silent Bob,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 3: whatever they called the first few, eventually it was Jay
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: and Silent Bob get old. But like when they started,
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 3: the only reason they started that show is because Jason
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 3: Mewes had fallen off the wagon again and was a mess.
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: And like, he'd already done that once and Kevin tried
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: to help him. And he's like, look, man, I'm not
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: doing this again. Like I will help you now, but
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: you can't, we can't keep doing this. Like this is it.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: You're going to have to be committed. You have to
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 3: actually get clean and get your shit together. Because again,
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 3: he was in so much trouble, both medically, chemically, and
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: then financially, like everything was going wrong. And like the
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 3: reason they did that show was that him meeting up
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 3: once a week to talk to Kevin. And then eventually
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 3: it became an actual theater show and he would go
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 3: and a whole group of people would be there. Like
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 3: he was accountable once a week, right?
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: Not only show up and do that, but also if
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 3: he falls off at any point during the week, he's
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: not going to make it there. So every day, he
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: knows he's accountable to be there and to keep his,
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 3: you know, keep, keep it together and like be able
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: to give him a reason to have a life again.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: And like, so like, again, there's so many points along
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: the way in this journey that I'm like, I still
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 3: respect Kevin and I, and I'm, and I'm happy for Jay.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 3: Like I, I want to, you know, I want good
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 3: things for them, but sometimes it's not worth the movies
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: that we get.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 5: No, I know. And that, that's the exact thing. That's
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 5: the whole thing. And it's like, even if I'm not
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 5: a big fan of what they're doing now, or even
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 5: if I absolutely detest what they're doing now, there's still
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 5: a chance. I mean, these are still the same people
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 5: that gave us classics, so there's still a chance that
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 5: we have another movie. Dude, and I know as much
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 5: as you love Mallrats, I had heard that they were
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 5: shopping around a sequel idea to a few studios, and
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 5: then it turned into a show, a TV show idea.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I heard, yep.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 5: And then now I don't even know if anything's happening
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: I think, I think then it fell apart again.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, because years and then, yeah.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 5: I want to say Stan Lee was a set, like
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 5: a central piece of the movie or of the script.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 3: Probably, which, yeah, that's, that's definitely gonna make it a
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 3: little more difficult.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 5: But I mean, again, I feel like he's still got
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 5: ideas hopefully. And I feel like hopefully, man, I just
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 5: could not imagine showing, the Jay and Son of Bob
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 5: reboot in front of a live theater audience. And then,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 5: and then standing there in front of them afterwards going,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 5: so what'd you think? Because I would almost feel like
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 5: there would have to have been correct, like deafening silence
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 5: for some of the punchlines.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: That's, that's the part that I find amazing is like,
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 3: he found this, this fan base that is insane. And like,
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 3: they just love him. And like, I mean, there's gotta
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 3: be some sort of jealousy, I guess, that I'm just like,
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: why do they, like, no matter what he does, they
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 3: keep showing up and they support him. And like, well,
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm bitter about that. But at the same time,
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I also don't see why. I don't feel
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 3: like what he's doing sometimes, if not a lot of
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: the time, deserves this sort of devotion. But like, they just,
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: he has such a fan base.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 5: That will not quit. but look at some of the
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 5: radio personalities, you know, like, I mean, somebody that is
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 5: legitimately revolting, like somebody that is hated by a lot
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 5: of the country can, can be a radio host and
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 5: then show up to a city and pack that place out,
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 5: you know, because not only are they, well, they're, you know, what,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 5: what polarizing, but they're also like, like they, they engage
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 5: with their audience a lot. I feel like Kevin Smith
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 5: is one of those people who, who he makes, he
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 5: makes his fans feel like, like they matter, you know,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 5: when he's around them. And he's also constantly, constantly talk. Like,
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like there's any aspect of his life
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 5: that he doesn't put out there.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 12: When you do like five shows a week, I feel
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 12: like it's like, it's like even an even more personal
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 12: Howard Stern type of thing, you know, where, where he's
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 12: constantly constantly letting everybody in on everything but then he's
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 12: also making content that are that are one and a
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 12: half hour digestible you know uh pieces of entertainment or
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 12: whatever they are you know and then he he gets
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 12: to constantly just do different things i mean he's got
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 12: he had last year alone he had that movie come
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 12: out but he also had like his own marijuana.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 5: Strains to go with the movie he had you know
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 5: like he had a whole burst of new new stardom
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 5: too with like his vegan things and all of his
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 5: posts on Instagram that, that are aimed at that kind
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 5: of thing. And I don't know, I just feel like
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 5: he's got a rabid fan base for sure. And I
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 5: feel like it's because he's made himself so approachable and
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  Speaker 5: so open, like so many people probably identify with him,
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  Speaker 5: you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, again, that's how, that's how I got on there.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's, that's how I fell into it myself. I just, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I just want, I don't know. I want him to
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  Speaker 3: do more and better. But, again, that's my opinion, and
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  Speaker 3: nobody gives a shit. So, like, the fans seem to
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  Speaker 3: still like it. So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I know a lot of people that say the same thing. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 5: he hasn't done anything good in forever. So, I feel
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  Speaker 5: like if he does something really good, dude, Red State,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people, man, whenever if they hadn't heard
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  Speaker 5: of it and if they've been like, huh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and I tell them a little bit about it, there
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  Speaker 5: have been several people that have been like, holy shit, dude,
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  Speaker 5: I just watched that Red Stay movie and man, that
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  Speaker 5: was awesome. You know? And it's just one of those
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  Speaker 5: things where it's like, yeah, I know it came out
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  Speaker 5: of nowhere and it was something that I don't think anybody.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's, that's one of those moments that like, I, I,
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  Speaker 3: he was back and I had so much hope that like,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: that's where he was going and he was going to
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  Speaker 3: keep doing that stuff. And it just took another weird
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  Speaker 3: turn after that.
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  Speaker 5: So, I mean, I know he said he's got another
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: horror movie in him and he's got, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Hopefully he's got some material because yeah, if I feel
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 5: like if it's Jay and Bob related, it's going to
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 5: just be trash and it's going to be self, you know, grand.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I can't, I can't handle it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just retreading the same stuff over and over. And again,
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: like you said, not even making jokes, just a reference
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  Speaker 3: to a thing we already did, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, Hey, remember that one joke that was
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 5: funny that one time you heard it 30 years ago. Yeah. Like, well,
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 5: guess what? And then we're going to look at the
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  Speaker 5: camera and acknowledge that we just made a reference to.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Like a little hammy. Well, on that tangent, I guess
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  Speaker 3: we round things out here. So do you do you
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  Speaker 3: have any words to pass on to people? Stay safe and.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: Try not to eat your neighbors or anything.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Like fucking stay indoors, man. Stream some horror movies, stream
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 5: some comedy movies, just stream some entertainment, play some games
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 5: like FaceTime, chit chat with people and just stay indoors, man.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 5: Like as much as you can. I mean, some of
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 5: us have to go to work. Some of us, you know,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 5: we still have to go grocery shopping. We still have to,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 5: .
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  Speaker 3: .
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  Speaker 5: I'm about to like Jean-Claude Van Damme blood sport, super
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 5: kick your ass right into this bread section.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm about to Steven Seagal kick you
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 3: right in the knee, lower shin says high as I
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 3: can get it.
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  Speaker 5: And then sweaty and out of breath.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's bound and bloated and purple.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry. Well, I can't, I can't wait to
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 5: watch this Steven Seagal, uh, This new vampire flick.
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 3: New 15 years ago.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you were saying it was like another
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 5: recent one.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: No, no. Well, I mean, that's the thing. He's been
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 3: old and out of shape and way too big to
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 3: do stuff for at least 15 years now.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 5: True, true.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 3: Very true. I mean, it really had to have been
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 3: 10 or 11 years ago when we watched him on
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 3: the show. I'm like, no joke.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 6: So that's... Yeah.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: So it should definitely be on something like Tubi then. Probably.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 3: If you can't find it, I'm pretty sure I've got
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 3: a copy of it just to do that episode. So
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 3: I can loan it to you if you don't find it.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, man.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 5: I'm sure I'll be able to find this. I'll be
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 5: Googling it.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 3: It's probably free on YouTube right now because nobody would
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 3: bother suing anyone over it.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 5: He's probably the one that uploaded it.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 3: Probably. Oh, so go watch that. If you have a
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 3: strong will and a strong stomach.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 5: So yeah, man, against the dark, I'm definitely going to,
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 5: I guess we will leave you with that.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 3: So thanks for coming on this journey. You and everyone
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 3: out there listening.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me. And you know, If you
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 5: feel like talking about crappy movies and has-been directors or
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 5: whatever we want to do, hit me up, man.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 3: Definitely. Maybe like this again. I'm hoping. I was already
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 3: planning on sitting down with you again in the near future,
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: and then this happened. So maybe somewhere down the line
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: we can actually be in the same room. We'll still
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: keep it about six feet if we can, but it'd
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: be nice if we could be in the same room.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and actually, I feel like we were six feet.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 5: Because that table, is it lengthy?
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 3: I've got a good, again, in the compound here, I've
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 3: got a decent sized table. So yeah, I think we
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: were safe last time.
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 5: So we can do that.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 3: Assuming we all survive, we can do that again. So,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 8: Nice.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 7: Well, awesome, man.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 5: Thanks again.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 3: All right. Thank you. And thanks to everyone out there. Otherwise,
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 3: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 7: I'm so far from you It's a taboo song.
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  Speaker 3: It's a taboo song I am.
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 7: Learning to die It's a stranger's.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 4: Reply I'm so far from you.
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  Speaker 9: All the things that you said Are like ghosts in
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 9: my head.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 6: .
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  Speaker 4: .
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  Speaker 6: .
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  Speaker 4: Bye.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 6: Take the sex back, my friend It's like death in
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 6: the end I'm so close to you Will I make
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 6: it in bed? I'm dressed up to be dead It's
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 6: a taboo song I am learning.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 7: To die It's a stranger's reply I'm so close to
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 7: you All the things that you said Are like ghosts
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 7: in my head.
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  Speaker 9: This is a taboo song. It's a taboo song.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 5: And either way, yeah, now it's just like, holy crap,
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  Speaker 5: this cat is a genius.
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