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Ken Rosenthal joins FT, 2 PED suspensions, Team USA SP plan debate, Spring Training contract extensions · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Mets Camp today. Yes, you see the skyline on
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  Speaker 1: support our Mets Show. But today we are the Mets
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  Speaker 1: Show FT at Metz Camp. Looking forward to chatting with
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  Speaker 1: Boba Schett, Carlos Mendoza, Sean Manaya and perhaps some more
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  Speaker 1: friends will join us as well. Scotty Brown, Aerocrats Aj Prazinski.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the WBC in a moment on
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  Speaker 1: the Team USA side before we do. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Dominican Republic Exhibition game stole the show last night. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Junior Caminero, Juan Soto, Homers and you would
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  Speaker 1: think that a world series was one. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it to make fun of it. I'm saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for it. Inject that energy into my veins. It's
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  Speaker 1: so damn good. And we actually I think have a
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  Speaker 1: little clip from the press box which even has a
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  Speaker 1: different vibe to it out there. That's Cody staven Hagen.
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  Speaker 1: We're showing right now from Tiger Territory and the athletic
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  Speaker 1: covering this matchup AJ and experiencing a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a party. There might have been some shots ripped in
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  Speaker 1: the press box last night.
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  Speaker 2: It looks a little uncomfortable. I'm not gonna lie. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like he's not in his comfort zone right there,
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  Speaker 2: which is fine. But I was wondering did they throw confetti?
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  Speaker 2: Because I saw the home runs and those are some
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  Speaker 2: long trots. The crowd was going crazy, which is awesome
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  Speaker 2: about this whole thing, which is why we love the
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  Speaker 2: WBC because the crowds of players get into it all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. But yeah, Cody didn't look like he was
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  Speaker 2: in his comfort zone. Looked like he might.
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  Speaker 3: He just got outside of it by just a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they captured it so well, the winter ball environment.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was able to like talk to my kids about it,
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  Speaker 3: like it was so awesome, Like these are dudes that
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  Speaker 3: don't come back.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of stars come back.
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  Speaker 3: And play in winter Ball December, maybe even in the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs in January. But then they cut it off like
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  Speaker 3: now these guys, Juan Soto man, he you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: played for US before. And Kutel Marte was out there
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  Speaker 3: Vladdie was out there. These guys rarely come back and play.
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  Speaker 3: So for the DR fans, for the Dominican Republic fans,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what team it is, they are all
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  Speaker 3: out there and this is this was must see event
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  Speaker 3: for the DR.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked awesome and it's a little precursor of
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to get over the course of the
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  Speaker 1: World Baseball Classics. So let's dive into it with Charge's
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  Speaker 1: charging about Yeah, we're charging the mound and it's presented
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  Speaker 1: by our friends over at Fox one. The Fox one
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  Speaker 1: app should be very popular. You're gonna hear a lot
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  Speaker 1: about it because you should be looking into it to
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  Speaker 1: get all of your World Baseball Classic coverage. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about every single live game from March fourth to the seventeenth,
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  Speaker 1: which is the day of the title game. More information
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  Speaker 1: after we chat about the World Baseball Classic Team USA
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  Speaker 1: starting rotation and the continuing journey that we have in
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  Speaker 1: terms of learning what this is going to look like.
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  Speaker 1: So it sounds like a j Nolan McLain would pitch
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  Speaker 1: in the title game if USA gets there. Now we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk to Carlos Mendoza later about McLean, but he did
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  Speaker 1: experience vertigo symptoms. I think from in near infection it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to be okay. But that's putting
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  Speaker 1: a lot on a guy who hasn't pitched a full
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  Speaker 1: season in the BIGS, and there are some other big
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  Speaker 1: names there. So I want to dive right into what
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  Speaker 1: I think is a bit controversial if it becomes a problem.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like from the article I read from Ken Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 1: who also will be joining us later, Paul Skeens could
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  Speaker 1: have pitched a different game that would have enabled him
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  Speaker 1: to pitch in the title game. He just doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to do a seven day layoff, and that's fair. Four works,
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  Speaker 1: five works, six works. He's trying to be as flexible
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  Speaker 1: as possible, but also prepare himself for the season. If
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  Speaker 1: Trek Scouble, who only is giving one outing in about
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  Speaker 1: fifty five pitches, pitched in a different game against Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: that would have enabled Skeens to pitch against Italy and
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  Speaker 1: then again on six days rest in the final, why
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  Speaker 1: aren't they doing that. I didn't get the full explanation,
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  Speaker 1: but in Ken's article, aj Mark de Rosa just says
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  Speaker 1: they went the other route with Schooble pitching against Great Britain.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, there's a couple things to play.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how their schedules line up for their
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  Speaker 2: opening days, so maybe had something to do with it. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: you're fighting teams here. Also, you're not just the guys.
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  Speaker 2: Can't just pick their schedule. They have to line up
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  Speaker 2: for their season opener. I'm very happy Trek Scooble is
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  Speaker 2: pitching against Great Britain because I'm calling that game. So
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  Speaker 2: I am like, yes, I get Trek scouble for fifty
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  Speaker 2: five pitches that could be three to four innings, so
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  Speaker 2: we could talk about how great Trek Scooble is on
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  Speaker 2: and off the field. Why they didn't do that, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. But listen, I love McClain going in there
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  Speaker 2: if they get to the finals and pitch. And we
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  Speaker 2: watched this guy pitch big games for the Mets last year.
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  Speaker 2: The Mets aren't a small market. They were fighting for
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  Speaker 2: their playoff lives, and he went out there and pitched
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  Speaker 2: really well. And if I'm Carlos Mendoza, who will speak
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  Speaker 2: to you later, I love this. It gets him more experience,
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  Speaker 2: it puts him on one of the biggest stages you
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  Speaker 2: could pitch on. And if you got to start the
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  Speaker 2: finals against who was at Venezuela, Dominican in Japan, whoever
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  Speaker 2: they could play in these finals, that's a pretty big deal.
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  Speaker 2: And it'll get his adrenaline flowing, It'll get him used
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  Speaker 2: to the big stage. He's gonna have to do interviews
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  Speaker 2: and all that. So I think this is a great thing.
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  Speaker 2: Would you love to have Schemes or Schooble or logan Web. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: But you also got to think about the teams because
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  Speaker 2: logan Web's team starts a day earlier than everybody else
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  Speaker 2: for the regular season, so they had to adjust his
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  Speaker 2: schedule to where he lines up for opening day. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Schemes in schoobl might be a day or two later,
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  Speaker 2: so you have to line everything up so it also
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  Speaker 2: gets them ready for the regular season.
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  Speaker 3: We're supremely focused on the final. There's no final if
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  Speaker 3: you don't get there. And when you're playing tournament baseball.
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  Speaker 3: When I played for Team USA, these are discussions that
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  Speaker 3: I was privy to be a part of because like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think it takes. You're not leaving chop
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  Speaker 3: liver for the finals. This isn't like a kid's travel
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  Speaker 3: ball tournament where you're like, oh, if we can just
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna run out of pitching at the end.
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  Speaker 3: They still have Nolan McLean pitching in the finals. That
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  Speaker 3: is awesome. You have to fight, like Aj said, all
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  Speaker 3: the different scheduling and everything. But to me, you don't
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  Speaker 3: get to the finals if you don't throw Logan Web,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't throw Paul schemes in those games, If
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  Speaker 3: you save Paul Skans for the finals and Nolan McClain
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  Speaker 3: doesn't do well in the semi finals, there's no finals.
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  Speaker 3: So to me, you throw the guys in the best
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  Speaker 3: scenario possible for each of their seasons, clearly. But then
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  Speaker 3: also the quarterfinal game is going to be just as
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  Speaker 3: tough as the final. The semi final game is going
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  Speaker 3: to be just as tough as the finals. So to me,
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  Speaker 3: you got to win those games, and if it works
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  Speaker 3: out with their schedules, I have no problem with this
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  Speaker 3: at all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So we'd have Logan Web pitching in the quarterfinals
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  Speaker 1: for USA skiings in the semis and then Nolan McLain
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  Speaker 1: in the final. There's a chance Joe Ryan could be
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  Speaker 1: used in the final as well. It sounds like he's
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  Speaker 1: more of an emergency situation. They still have to see
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  Speaker 1: how the back recovery goes. What we do know is
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  Speaker 1: teams can add four pitchers after pool play and then
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  Speaker 1: two more pitchers after the quarterfinals. So the pitcher pool
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  Speaker 1: includes Joe Ryan for Team USA, Strom, Tyler Rogers, and
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  Speaker 1: Will Vest among the pitchers in the pool. There could
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  Speaker 1: be more.
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  Speaker 2: So those are some n Tyler Rogers, Tyler Rodgers the
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  Speaker 2: right of the lefty.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody gets confused. Tyler Rogers is the rich one on
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, now right, right, that's true. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: pretty close in career earnings. Tyler Rogers is currently the
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  Speaker 1: high paid man on the high paid twin on the
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays who signed this offseason. Yeah, your side arm
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  Speaker 1: extraordinary who was a very hot number as a free agent.
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  Speaker 1: And that gives you a very different look out of
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  Speaker 1: your bullpen. Aj Will Best would be nice to add
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  Speaker 1: to the bullpen, and so would Matt Strom later on
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  Speaker 1: in this tournament.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you go Yarborough throwing from over here
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  Speaker 2: and then Rogers throwing from over here, you go from
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  Speaker 2: here to here, that's pretty big difference they have. And
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  Speaker 2: Strom's pitching big games with the best pitching huge games
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  Speaker 2: for the Tigers last year, Joe Ryan would be a
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  Speaker 2: great starter. I think once you get to the finals,
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  Speaker 2: then you bring in your two extra guys and you
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  Speaker 2: say we're just gonna use Johnny Hoolstaff and piece this
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  Speaker 2: together with whoever's left. So I think this is a
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  Speaker 2: great thing. I think it's a great tournament and I
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  Speaker 2: just can't wait to get it started tonight on Fox
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  Speaker 2: one at ten o'clock. Who was at Type AI in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: I might actually have to stay up to ten o'clock
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  Speaker 2: to watch this.
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  Speaker 3: Ay, j would you rather have funk like you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about all the funk of Tyler Rogers, matt Strom Yarborough,
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  Speaker 3: or would you rather have what the Dominican through out
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  Speaker 3: there last night? A hundred from the left side, a
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  Speaker 3: hundred from the right side.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you always take stuff over funk, But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, funk can just be just as effective because
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  Speaker 2: guys don't see it all the time. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think Rogers was such a commodity? Why do you think
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  Speaker 2: matt Strom and Yarboro have stuck around for so long
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  Speaker 2: because they have different angles and different stuff and different
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  Speaker 2: things they're good at. So I love funk. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you always take stuff over funk, but sometimes stuff gets
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  Speaker 2: hit and funk doesn't. So don't you know what's it?
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  Speaker 3: Don't fake the funkunk on a nasty dunk, you know, like,
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  Speaker 3: so don't let's not mess with the funk.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you want funk. The Team USA lineup was rolled
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  Speaker 1: out for their exhibition against the San Francisco Giants, and
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad for Adrian Hawser to start the game.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of action against him, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just him. I mean they consistently were putting up
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  Speaker 1: runs over the course of that game, adding up to
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  Speaker 1: fifteen total. It's an exhibition game, but the lineup looks
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. I think one thing is pretty legit and
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  Speaker 1: fair to say, aj there have been really good players
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  Speaker 1: for Team USA. Position player wise. It's gotten better as
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  Speaker 1: we go, but now we're really at a status where
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  Speaker 1: this should be their best lineup ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this lineup, this whole team is really good. You
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  Speaker 2: see the importance, especially in the United States, of how
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  Speaker 2: this is growing every year every time they do the
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  Speaker 2: WBC because more and more stars want to jump on board.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, Mike trow is the captain this Sharon Judge
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  Speaker 2: is the captain. You get Skien, you get School, you
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  Speaker 2: get Logan Web, three of the best pitchers in the planet.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get the lineup with cal Rawley and
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  Speaker 2: Harper and Schwarber and Judge and all these unbelievable superstars
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  Speaker 2: from their teams coming together trying to win this thing
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  Speaker 2: for USA. So it just shows you the importance and
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  Speaker 2: how much guys love this event and how much they
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  Speaker 2: want to win this event. But then also you get
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  Speaker 2: all the other countries. Dominican we talked about, Japan has
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  Speaker 2: won this thing three times. Korea is really good at
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  Speaker 2: this Venezuela can be really good in this tournament. Italy
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  Speaker 2: is better. I think the people think the only thing
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  Speaker 2: we're missing, guys is a team Poland, because can you
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  Speaker 2: imagine how good Team Poland would be if we could
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  Speaker 2: get all the Pollocks together to challenge USA.
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  Speaker 1: If we get you to come out of retirement, that
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  Speaker 1: would be lovely.
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  Speaker 2: But instead, I'll get my I'll get my son to play,
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  Speaker 2: not me, I'll get my son to play forget me. Austin,
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, thank you, no, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I saw that stuff coming out of Dominican bullpen last night.
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  Speaker 5: No thanks it anymore exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you will be able to listen to AJ and
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  Speaker 1: Inside Scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken, let's
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  Speaker 1: get right to the ped suspensions. We don't hear about
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  Speaker 1: them very often these days, but when we do, we
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  Speaker 1: got to hammer this. So Jerks and PROFI up first.
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  Speaker 1: This is number two, one hundred and sixty two games.
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  Speaker 1: But there's an appeal process going on right now.
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  Speaker 4: There is, and it's kind of common implicated to explain.
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  Speaker 4: Scott and I don't know that it's going to be successful,
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  Speaker 4: but usually with a first time offender of the Joint
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  Speaker 4: Trug Policy, we don't hear about an appeal. We just
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  Speaker 4: hear the announcement, and at that point the appeal has
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  Speaker 4: been heard with a player accused of violating the policy
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  Speaker 4: a second time. Like PROFAR is, they can make the
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  Speaker 4: announcement they being major League Baseball right away and not
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  Speaker 4: have what they call a stay a delay in the process.
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  Speaker 4: They can simply go forward with it and then the
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  Speaker 4: appeal gets hurt. It's going to be expedited. I imagine
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  Speaker 4: it will be in the next couple of days. But
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  Speaker 4: that's why this got public before the appeal was heard.
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  Speaker 4: So there is an appeal. They are fighting this the
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  Speaker 4: Players Association on behalf of PROFAR. Where it goes from here,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. But at the same time, that's why
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  Speaker 4: this was a little bit different than usual. When the
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  Speaker 4: announcement is usually made, it's all done, the appeal's done,
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  Speaker 4: everything's done. In this case, the announcement came without that stay,
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  Speaker 4: that delay, and now they go forward.
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  Speaker 3: How does this get out? Can that's go ahead? How
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  Speaker 3: does this get out?
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  Speaker 2: Can? Because I thought this was all supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: secret until it was finished. The team's not supposed to know.
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  Speaker 2: No one's supposed to know except for I think the player, right,
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  Speaker 2: So how does this get out before this process is done.
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  Speaker 2: And then with Rojas, isn't it the same thing, Like
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  Speaker 2: he's not officially suspended, but it got out. So how
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  Speaker 2: did these things get out if it's not. If it's not,
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  Speaker 2: it's clearly not from the PA because they don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So there has to be a leak somewhere in the
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  Speaker 2: MLB offices to let this get out before it's done.
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  Speaker 4: Ange, I didn't break this story, so I can't tell
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  Speaker 4: you for sure how it got out, and even to
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  Speaker 4: speculate would be wrong to do because as a reporter,
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  Speaker 4: I know that we find out things in all different
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  Speaker 4: ways and it's not always what people think. So I
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  Speaker 4: would imagine that in party got out because of the process.
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  Speaker 1: I just explained it.
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  Speaker 4: Was going to get out even before the appeal. This
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  Speaker 4: had been a decision that was essentially made. They were
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  Speaker 4: going to suspend him for a second violation and didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to wait for the appeal to be heard. So
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  Speaker 4: as for that and what the Players Association might feel
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  Speaker 4: about that, I don't know, But I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: speculate or even begin to think about how it got out.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have any idea what the appeal like on
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  Speaker 3: what grounds of appeal, because they usually do before they
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  Speaker 3: have a test.
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  Speaker 5: Positive test, don't go further, don't go further.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the grounds of the appeal are.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what exactly they are bothered by. Is
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: it the test itself? Is it something with the test?
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  Speaker 1: Is it the.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's probably the test. I would think
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  Speaker 4: it has to be the test, and they're disputing the
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  Speaker 4: result of the test. So that is what leads to
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  Speaker 4: the discipline, the results of the test. I imagine that's
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  Speaker 4: what it is, but I don't know exactly where that
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  Speaker 4: comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Where that stands ken. Where do the Braves go from here?
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  Speaker 1: I know profar wasn't with the fact that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to get a good chunk of DH time. Luckily
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  Speaker 1: they did sign your strum Ski. So where do they
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  Speaker 1: go from here? Offense? And again the question is going
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to come up from fans, Hey, you're going to save
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars reported with the luxury techs money that
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: they'd have to pay added on.
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  Speaker 4: So what do you think I would expect they would
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: get another outfielder, either through trade or free agency. Tommy
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  Speaker 4: fam is out there as a free agent. Still, you
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  Speaker 4: also have guys on minor league deals around the game.
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  Speaker 4: Randall Gritchick is won, for instance, if he's not going
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  Speaker 4: to make the Yankees, maybe he becomes available. Then you
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  Speaker 4: have in Mets camp Mike Taalkman. He probably hasn't out
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  Speaker 4: as well. I'm just throwing names out there. These are
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  Speaker 4: guys not on major league deals. You may be able
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  Speaker 4: to get them. Talkman might very well make the Mets.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: You're there today. He's competing with Carson Benje and it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: an open competition. But there are avenues to pursue. And
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: also we've talked about this at length. They still need
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: a starting pitcher and now they have increased financial flexibility
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: if they want to go sign Lucas.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Or Zach Lttel.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: And it would seem to me that it would behoove
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: them to do both those things. And it's funny you
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: mentioned Profar not seeming to be happy about being a
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: d Age. At least in his public comments. He had
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: told the Braves he was fine with it. He should
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: have been worried about other things.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Put it that way, what about Johann Rojas, how because
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: he wasn't going to be a starter for the Phillies.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Do you see the Phillies making them move in a
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: lesser mode or do you see them still saying, Okay,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: we have a spot to fill.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: We can make a big trade for an outfielder.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Oh. I don't know they're going to make a big
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: trade based on this news. They were going to play
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Justin Crawford in centerfield. That was their plan from the beginning.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know that this really changes anything for them.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: They too, of course, could add to their depth out there.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: They're down one. But a major trade for a center
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: field or at this stage of spring training, so close
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: to opening day, that is unlikely to happen. I will
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: never say never, but I would expect that that would
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: not be the case.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Ben, You're gonna be a WBC with me? Correct, Wow,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: we get to work together. I'm so honored. What are
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: you thinking about this Usafeteam? What are you thinking about
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the USA team? Is this the best roster of talent
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: ever assembled on one team?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Aj?
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: First of all, the honor is mine?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: True? That's true. That actually is the truest thing you
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: probably have ever.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Said in your life.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: As far as the best roster ever assembled, I would
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: say the best US roster for sure, But I would
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: encourage you, Aj, because you're a man of worldly views,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: to examine the Dominican Republic's roster because it's pretty unbelievable
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and as good as the US looked yesterday fifteen to
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: one over the San Francisco Giants, and it was every
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: bit that the Dominican offense is going.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: To be crazy too.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Japan is always going to be competitive in this tournament.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: That's just the nature of it. That's what has happened
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: over the years. Those three, I expect would be the
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: best teams in this the favorites Venezuela will also be good,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Mexico will be good good. I'm sure we'll see other
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: teams Baby jump out. We've seen this in the past.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: But the Dominican roster Flad Junior, Tatis Soto, Marte Perdomo,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Julio Rodriguez and on. You can say, Okay, who's gonna
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: pitch Not maybe as strong as you would like, but
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: it's not bad. It's Severino Bao al Contra and at
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: the top Christopher Sanchez. So if I was picking a favorite,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I would pick the US over
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: the Dominican Republic. Both teams look really really good.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Ken, can we go over the pitching plans. You wrote
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: about this in The Athletic yesterday, and as you're explaining it,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the one question I did have was why DeRosa decided
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to go with Skins in the semi final versus the final.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And I did feel like I get what krat said.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Kratz basically explain, Hey, you got to get there first.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: But also, isn't Derek Scooble more valuable pitching against Mexico
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: than Great Britain? I feel like the US is gonna
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: be okay against the Brits well.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: As I wrote, when it comes to pitching plans for
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: the WBC, logic is part of the equation, but only part,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: and keeping starting pictures on their routines their schedules is
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: an equally important, if not more important part, because, as
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Mark de Rosa said to me yesterday, these guys, the
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: pitchers are already manipulating their schedules. You have to be
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: as respectful to them. You have to honor them as
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: much as you possibly can. And the way this lined up,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and I explained it the story better than I'm going
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: to explain it here, I'm sure I hope so anyway
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: that Skeins he really wanted to pitch on either four
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: days rest or five days rest, and he said he'd
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: be willing to pitch on six days rest. He said
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: he'd really be willing to do anything but to pitch
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: against Mexico as he is scheduled to do, and then
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: pitch in the final. That would be seven days rest.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: And DeRosa said, no, too much. It takes him out
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: of his routine. Again, we're going to respect the pitcher. Now,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: how could scoople have changed this? Schooble If he had
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: pitched against Mexico on again extended rest, I believe it
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: would have been seven days, then Skeens could have lined
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: up for the next game against Italy and lined up
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: for the championship game. But it just didn't fall that
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: way because of the different schedules these pitchers are on.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: And that is why at this point you're looking at
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: should they advance Logan Web in the quarterfinal, Skians in
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: the semifinal, and then Nolan McLain from the New York Mets,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: the rookie who's coming off a little bit of a
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: vertigo situation. He is scheduled to pitch the final and
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: as DeRosa explained to me yesterday, they will swap out pitchers.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: After the pool play they can add four, and after
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: the quarterfinal they can add two more. And when I
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: say add, exchange is what I'm talking about. So we're
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: gonna see different faces in the knockout round than we
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: see in the pool play round, particularly in the bullpen.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: There are three names that he mentioned to me that
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: are on the designated pitcher pool that's kind of an
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: alternate roster. It's Tyler, Rogers, will Vest and Matt Strom.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: They will likely be added others removed for the knockout round,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: should again the US advance.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And how come we only talk about this with the USA.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about the pitchers lining up for the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Dominican We're not pitcher talking about pitchers lining up for
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Japan or any of the other favorite teams. Is it
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: just because we maybe know the names a little bit better?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Why are we not? Everyone's like, oh, Schemes isn't going
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to pitch the final? Well, how do the Dominican lineup?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Because they have the same problems, right, Japan has the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: same issues. Where's Yamamoto gonna pitch? Right? So how come
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: we're just talking about the USA, not the other teams,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: also because the other teams have to pitch too.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: AJ. The only way I can answer that is because
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: right now I'm covering Team USA. I'm not covering those
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: other teams, and I haven't delved into it the same
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: way I have with Team USA. I would imagine, Yes,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you're right that the other teams are running into similar issues.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: All teams that have made league players run into these
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: issues because the Major league teams have influence here, or
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: at least try to have influence. They have in some
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: cases the ability or the inclination to set conditions on
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: how their players can be used, pitchers in particular, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: it does affect things. We learned this in the last WBC.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: We've learned that actually every WBC now guys want to
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: play more than they did in the past now, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: that's a great thing and for all and any criticism
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: school has received. My goodness, this guy is entering his
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: free agent year. This guy, there's no way he would
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: have pitched in this thing twenty three in seventeen. Players
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: want to be a part of it, and that's the
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: extent he can be a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Part of it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, they'll take it so it's one of these things.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Now again, I have not looked at the Dominican Republic
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: rotation or the japan rotation as extensively as I've looked
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: at Team USA, But just off the top of my head, AJ,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I would imagine they're running into the same things.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Ken. You know, we have Brazil on Friday night. Right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: who's pitching for Brazil on Friday Night?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I do not know yet, aj can Ken.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Can't be so one sided and these things.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: He's doing that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Scott, it's Wednesday and he's asking me about Friday. We
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: got Wednesday, check into Thursday, then get to Friday, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: aj A, you on the Friday.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Broadcast, I am and Saturday, all right, we'll.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Be ready for both games.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, we'll be ready.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, because I hope Joseph. I hope Joseph Contrera's pitches,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: because he does. It'd be kind of cold to broadcast,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you know, the son of a guy who played for
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: for a long time. It'd be awesome. He's in high school.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: This guy's in high school throwing ninety five and hopefully
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he goes and pitches against USA and well
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: baseball class. It would be pretty incredible for those who.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Might not know what AJ's talking about, because I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: think he gave you a frame of reference there. Joseph
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Contreras is the son of Jose Contreras, AJ's former teammate
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: with the White Sox. He is nineteen, he's committed to Vanderbilt.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: And because his mom, I believe, grew up in Brazil,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: she was fifteen years old, she's Brazilian. He is pitching
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: for Brazil in this tournament. I actually met him the
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: other night. We were on the same flight from Atlanta together,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and it would be really cool, yes, to see him
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: pitch against the US. That's the extent of my Brazilian preparation.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: So far, Aj.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: But again, two days remain until the first pitch is thrown.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Ken, let's finish with this. Were you at the exhibition yesterday?
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: The exhibition?
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, So what was it like just for people to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: watch all of those superstars in one spot, many future
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Hall of famers playing together. That's part of the really
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: cool aspects here is that you get to see that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: as well, and like who looks like a leader, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: just how they all mesh together.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and one thing DeRose has made a point of
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: really going back to January and even before, he has
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: wanted to put a team together that is a team
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: that is cohesive, that is together. Now. I know fans
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: sometimes say stuff is doesn't matter, it's all bunk. You
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: can't measure it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: The entire team stayed for the entire game in uniform
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: in the dugout yesterday. That's something you don't see in
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: spring training, and that to DeRosa spoke volumes. It showed
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: the commitment and the commitment to each other that you
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: would want in any team. So as far as how
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: they look on the field, it's every bit as imposing
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: as you would think when you have a lineup of Judge, Harper,
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Schwarber Wit. I'm not going in the right order. Roman
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Anthony made a strong impression yesterday with a big home run.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: He is going to start for this team. He's not
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: going to be Alex Bregman in seventeen or Bobby Witt
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Junior in twenty three. This guy's going to play a
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: meaningful role. He's not the Christian Latner. So it is
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: impressive to see how they're coming together and how they
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: all have a great passion for playing for their country
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: and maybe winning this tournament, trying to win this tournament.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: It's a greater level of commitment than we saw, certainly
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: in the first years of the tournament.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And it's grown.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: And it's grown because Team USA one in twenty seventeen
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: had a great tournament in twenty three and of course
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: that was a dramatic tournament with an incredible finish. Players
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: have gotten more into it and you're seeing that not
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: just in the participation but in the way that they're
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: going about it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, great info and save travels. Then good luck with
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: your buddy in the box above you. We will be
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: anxiously awaiting and listening to that broadcast. Have fun.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Thanks guys. That's what he said.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: That's what he said. That's what he said. Is engineered
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: by Fastenall, where industry meets innovation. This is one of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: my favorite topics during this time of year. Spring training extensions.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden on GM territory is going to be our
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that's what he said. To give us some names. But
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: before we do that, let's run through some names of
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: our own. Eric Kratz, do you have one or two
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: names that you think need to get Spring training extensions
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: done with their teams.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I mean the obvious.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's the team's need to get the extensions done,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: not players that need to get it done. To me,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: the obvious one is Connor Griffin. I mean, I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: you have to look at Roman Anthony's number, and I
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: think if you go over that, if you go one
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: to fifty five, I think Roman Anthony got.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Eight years one fifty.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: If you go over that to like one fifty five,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: now it stays under twenty million a year because Bob
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Nutting doesn't want to go over that. But I think
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: just his makeup and everything, I think that's kind of
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: the obvious one that I feel like the Pirates need
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: to get done. I think another one that was a
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: guest on just the other day, Bryce Terrank. I think
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: he showed what he can do. I think he made
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: some adjustments. His power numbers are I think going to grow.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: He's got platinum glove defense at second base. To me,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: if you lock him up right now before he hits
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: twenty five to thirty homers and is a perennial All Star,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: now you're getting a cheaper price and you're kind of
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: transitioning from the Yelich time. When I think Yelly's done
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in twenty nine, I think is his last year. Let
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: me actually just triple check that. Twenty twenty nine. There's
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a mutual option, so twenty eight and you know, you
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: kind of transition it to the next guy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: And I think Bryce Terraang is the guy to.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Do it cool. I like those And by the way,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony's extension last year was eight years, one hundred
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and thirty million dollars. There's club option and the whole
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: deal max escalators. Club option can make a nine, one sixty.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Max escalators can get it all the way up to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the to thirty range, but you'd need to be racking
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: up some big awards to do that. So just to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: give some parameters for what Connor Griffin might be looking at.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: A couple more names.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Aj Well, a couple that we've talked to in the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: last two days. One was sitting next to me not
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: long ago. And Freddy Peralta. I think he's he makes
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: all his starts, He's had quality starts. David Sterns knows
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: him well. You saw how happy he is, what a
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: kind of guy he is.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: In the clubhouse.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone talks about the presence he has. I think Freddy
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Peralta would be an awesome candidate for an extension in
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: these New York metropolitans. And the other one is someone
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: we had on yesterday in the same division. That's Kyle
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Stowers with the Marlins. Why because you saw the numbers
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: he put up last year thirty homers, one hundred RBIs
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: was an All Star. He just exudes confidence and he's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a guy that the Marlins I think could get and
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: keep him around for a while. I think he would
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be a perfect extension candidate for the Miami Marlins.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Nice, Okay, And then I'll give you a couple others.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, before we get to GM territory's choices,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Mariner's starting pitching, I'll throw that out there. So pick
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a name, Brian Wu, Logan Gilbert, anyone Gilbert's a free
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: agent after twenty seven, who is a free agent after
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: twenty nine? Those are probably the two most likely candidates.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Kirby can go on that list to. I guess Bryce
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Miller can go on that list. Yeah, So anyone that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: interested I think would be good to pursue. I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the As should continue down their line of success of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: getting extensions. It's the best to spend their money right
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: now versus recruiting. It's difficult to recruit and you're gonna
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: massively overpay to get someone there who might not want
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to be there. So Nick Kurtz, Shay Langaliers, those should
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: be the next two on their list, and then one
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: more guys to throw your way. I wanted to get
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: your thoughts here, AJ Hunter Brown top three Cy Young,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: he said recently on Crush City Territory, one of our shows,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: our Astros show, that he wanted to try and get
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: an extension done. It didn't sound like there were many
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: combos yet. I know Hunter Brown is a Scott Boris client.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It's not like Boris has never done these. If you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: actually look at the Astros, do you know who Boris
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: reps on that team who has racked up a couple
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: extensions before ever hitting free agency?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: No, Altuve, Altuve your done. I think's got a different
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: rep Al Tuovey's done it twice. So this is a
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: guy who could have cashed out multiple times in free agency,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: especially during his first go round, and Houston pushed something
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in his way that he was into. Hunter Brown's a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: pitcher to AJ you always say get your rich first,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and especially if you're someone who has something that's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: taking time bomb and it's called a major league arm for.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Anyone, I would love to hunt Hunter Brown was my
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: guy last year. I rode him hard in the bed
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: MGM segments last year, so I was in the strikeout
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: totals because he was just nasty and dominant. I would
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: love for the Astros, if I'm an Astro fan, to
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: get a Hunter Brown extension to keep him around for
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the long term, because he's durable.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: He looks he's a big man. He's durable, and he
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: can go out there and take the ball every fit
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: day and give you quality innings. They went Verlander to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Fromber and now it's Hunter's turn to kind of lead
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: this rotation.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I think Jim Crane's relationship with him plays a little
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: bit to do with it too. I think at teams
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I've been on and watching Jim Crane, how he interacts
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: with players, it's the I mean a little bit that
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  Speaker 3: I was there. You could see how he interacted with Korea,
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  Speaker 3: you could see how he interacted without Tuve, and when
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I was there, George was there. Like I think those
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  Speaker 3: things kind of sometimes supersede the whole Scott board, so
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't do extensions. Boros will do an extension when
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: it's good for his player, he'll advise him not to
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  Speaker 3: and allow them to make their own decision.
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  Speaker 1: And the closer you get the free agency, your percentage
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: chance of hitting the market and getting a bigger payday happens.
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  Speaker 1: So for Brown, what are you going to do over
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  Speaker 1: the next few years. It's easier to do these sometimes
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  Speaker 1: with a guy who's really early on and you don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what this success is going to look like.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're getting a good body of work suddenly from
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Hunter Brown. Okay, let's get some other names GM territory
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  Speaker 1: with the Bowdens.
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  Speaker 5: What he got other players?
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  Speaker 6: The Cincinnati Reds, I think with La Day of the Cruz,
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  Speaker 6: they've already offered him a Joey Botto type of deal
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  Speaker 6: that didn't get it done. If I'm the Reds, I
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't stop trying to get Dela Cruz done right now.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't wait until a year from now, because I
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: think the price is just going to go way up,
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  Speaker 6: So I would try to get that done this spring.
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  Speaker 6: I think in Washington's camp, I think leftfielder James Wood
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  Speaker 6: is a guy that I lock up now before he
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: is able to hit his prime. And to be honest
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: with you, if I'm the Tigers, knowing I'm probably gonna
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: lose Trek Scoogl in free agency, I also don't want
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: to lose my superstar outfielder Riley Green. So I kind
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: of feel like I would try to get Riley Green
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  Speaker 6: signed to a long term deal now instead of waiting
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  Speaker 6: a couple of years. They've got three years of control left.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to wait a couple of years on
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  Speaker 6: Riley Green either. I think he's a forty home run
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  Speaker 6: perennial All Star kind of player here. So I would say,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: to answer your question, the Oriols with Gunner Henderson and
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Adlee Rritchman, the Rays with Junior Camenero, the Reds with
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: lad and the Cruz, the Nationals with James Ward, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: the Tigers with Riley Green. All of them makes sense
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  Speaker 6: to me. And if you're going to do it, this
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: is the time to do it right now. March of
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: twenty six.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I like Junior Kamanara on that list. They showed at
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the back end the only thing and great stuff from
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden, longtime former GM pops up on this show
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: all the time as a resident GM plus is sentre
• 34:53
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• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Riley Green, AJ. Do you think there could be a discrepancy.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The Tigers are one of the more analytical focused teams
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: in the game, and just playing off a public stat
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that has its own proprietary metrics for many teams behind
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the scenes Baseball Reference War two years ago, he was
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a five point four number. Last year he was at
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: two point two. He did hit a ton of dangers,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: thirty six homers, and slogan percentage was close to five
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: hundred eleven RBIs. I don't think anyone's doubting the power,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: but there could be on base percentage questions and some
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: other parts of his game that the Tigers might dispute.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I love the player, but the Tigers might say, hey,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you know, he was more of a two win player
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and he's like, nah, I'm more of a five plus
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: win player. And that's a huge difference in how you
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: value somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Also, the contact I think is one thing they're
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: worried about with Riley Green. I know at the end
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: last year, especially in the postseason. In some of the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: second half, he had some contact issues and they would
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: really like to see that improve a little bit. Doesn't
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: He did have a really nice year and did a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: lot of really good things for the Tigers last year,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: but they really, I know, talking to people, they would
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: love for to see his contact rate go up just
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit because if he puts more balls in play,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: there's more chance for damage. So they would love to
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  Speaker 2: see that. And if that happens, maybe this is a
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: mid year extension kind of guy.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Hmm, that's a good call. And then one more team
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that would probably be smart to figure out some extensions
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: at some point beyond the Halo. Taking this from the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: La Times, the Angels did not make zach Netto a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: form a long term contract offer this offseason, according to Cia,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: his agency Krats. At this point, I actually still am
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: under the I don't even know if you call conspiracy theory,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: but belief that Ardi Moreno is going to sell the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: team soon. And with that being the case, it just
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: feels like they're trying to keep everything short. Now. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: don't know why that would necessarily have a ton to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: do with selling a team, but he does seem lost
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: at the moment with the whole winning versus the fan
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: experience aspect. If I want to buy a team and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I knew that there were a few core players locked
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: up long term, I would think there's more value. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: often a group will look at their books and say,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: as clean as the books are, the better off we
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: are to sell this team. I disagree. I think a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: few guys core wise that don't cost a ton actually helps.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: But that's just me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like you can just put all
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: the names and pictures on the dartboard and you can
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: just throw one in there. Do you want to give
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: one to Joe Adell? Do you think his defense and
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: left field will just be serviceable and not below average
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: like it wasn't centered. Do you think Zach Netto is
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: going to continue to make the moves? Do you think
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Nolan Shanewell would be a guy that well, he's not
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: going to hit for a lot of power. Could anchor
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: your your team at first base? I think there's a
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: lot of options because of how young these guys are.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Christian Moore just got called up last year. But to me,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: what you said about Nedo, you're talking about a five
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: plus war player this past year. You might be too late.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: He might have already started to show his value in
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: the big leagues and be like, wait a minute, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: can just ride this out for another four years and
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: become a free agent. It's going to cost a big number.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It's gonna cost a big number. And if they're not
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: willing to go that big, I think they may have waited.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I think the value was there before, when he was
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: still getting his feet wet in the big leagues. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: now you're gonna pay. You're gonna pay a lot if
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: you're an angel, if you're if you're a argrenum.
• 38:24
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• 38:26
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• 38:50
  Speaker 1: can go first here you think there's any value, I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: know you might not be the most well versed on
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Pool C in Japan is at minus one minus five,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Korea plus eight hundred. Everyone else is above twelve to
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: one odds and then Dominican Republics minus one sixty five
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: in Pool D plus one sixty five for Venezuela. Likely
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that'll be decided by the matchup between these those two
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: teams and everyone else is further away. Netherlands at thirteen
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to one odds.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: What do you think easy value? Korea is the easiest value.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Don't don't sleep on the Korean team. I've seen them
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: beat Japan head to head. I was at the game.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I was at the game in Tokyo, and like gave
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: they gave them a run Chinese Taipei. I think they're
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: just going to be too short to be able to
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: win the division, to be able to win that pool
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and Venezuela plus one sixty five they could do it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: But I have the Dominican winning the entire thing. I
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: already locked that in on bet MGM appreciate that plus
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: four hundred that I locked it in at. But to me, Korea,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Korea is the easy easy bet here because you can
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: beat Japan and then run the rest of the table
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: and not win the entire thing. But at plus eight hundred,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: there's a ton of value there. AJ thoughts the list,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: It's Korea for me, all type.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Aj who's pitching for each team, Well.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Is going to pitch one game. Korea. There's probably a
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Kim that's gonna pitch some game because right, and I
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: mean that because every time I watch it, there you
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: have h and then other than that, I don't really
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: know the check. The check guy probably is going to
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: strike out show Hey throwing sixty five again, so that's
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: probably good. Other not, I don't really know. But because
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not covering this, Like Ken said, I'm focused on
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: the USA because I have two USA games, but I
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: love Listen, I love Korea. If you're gonna bet on
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: any of these, it would be Korea. Japan lost their exhibition.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Game the other night, I think to the to the
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know who they played, Yokohama maybe.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Based Oars I think it was, but doesn't mean anything.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Australia doesn't have enough check doesn't have enough. Venezuela is
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: not a good enough value. So yeah, it's Korea or
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: bust here. Good boys and girls, if you're betting on
• 41:05
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