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- 0:00Speaker 0: provided by Thomas Allguyer and Frenis, based on the most relevant post on LinkedIn about World Defense Show.
- 0:06Speaker 0: Frenis is a BDB market research company that equips product and strategy teams with market and competitive intelligence across the defense industry.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep dive.
- 0:17Speaker 1: So today we're shifting gears.
- 0:20Speaker 1: We are getting out of the abstract and dropping right into the middle of the action in Riyadh to cover the World Defense Show, twenty twenty six.
- 0:27Speaker 0: And, you know, when you think of a defense trade show, A very specific image comes to mind, rows of tanks, dark suits, maybe some brochures.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Other brochures.
- 0:36Speaker 0: But looking at the data front as pulled, especially the chatter on LinkedIn, the vibe in Riyadh this year felt, well, it felt different.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It was distinct.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It really wasn't a shopping mall for hardware.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It was more like a massive high-stakes co-working space.
- 0:51Speaker 1: The big theme wasn't procurement.
- 0:53Speaker 1: No.
- 0:53Speaker 1: It was co-production.
- 0:54Speaker 1: That's the
- 0:55Speaker 0: keyword.
- 0:55Speaker 0: We're going to circle back to that a lot.
- 0:57Speaker 0: We've sifted through.
- 0:58Speaker 0: just a mountain of posts from people actually on the ground.
- 1:01Speaker 0: Insiders, engineers, strategists, and we've boiled it all down into a few key clusters.
- 1:06Speaker 0: We're going to talk about the Saudi Defense Hub, the focus on air power, what's real in robotics, the geopolitics on the floor, and then this idea of the invisible battlefield.
- 1:15Speaker 1: It's a dense landscape, but a really fascinating one.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
- 1:19Speaker 0: So let's start with that big context.
- 1:21Speaker 0: The Saudi Defense Hub and Vision- We hear the word localization thrown around all the time in this industry.
- 1:27Speaker 0: It's
- 1:27Speaker 1: almost a buzzword.
- 1:28Speaker 0: It is.
- 1:29Speaker 0: But a post from Mohamed Hassanain actually put some hard data behind it.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:34Speaker 1: He visualized the whole trajectory of defense localization in the kingdom.
- 1:39Speaker 1: And when you look at the graph he shared, it is not a gentle slope.
- 1:43Speaker 1: It's a cliff face, but, you know, going up.
- 1:46Speaker 0: He called it an industrial sprint, didn't he?
- 1:48Speaker 0: He
- 1:48Speaker 1: did.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And the numbers really backed that up.
- 1:51Speaker 1: He pointed out that back in, was it, twenty sixteen, defense localization was at just about two percent.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Two
- 1:57Speaker 0: percent.
- 1:57Speaker 0: So basically all the capital is just leaving the country immediately.
- 2:00Speaker 0: Immediately.
- 2:01Speaker 1: By twenty twenty five, that number hit twenty five.
- 2:03Speaker 1: percent.
- 2:04Speaker 1: And the target for twenty thirty is
- 2:06Speaker 0: fifty percent.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Fifty percent.
- 2:07Speaker 0: That is a massive restructuring of an entire national economy in just over a decade.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It is.
- 2:14Speaker 1: And Hassanin framed it as a move toward a circular economy.
- 2:18Speaker 1: The logic is simple.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Instead of sending billions out to buy hardware, you keep that capital inside to fund local production, build R&D, and create high-tech jobs.
- 2:28Speaker 0: So they're using defense as the engine to jumpstart the wider economy.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 2:33Speaker 1: But here's the thing about localization.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You can't just mandate it and expect it to happen.
- 2:37Speaker 1: You need the nuts and bolts.
- 2:39Speaker 1: You need the supply chain.
- 2:40Speaker 0: You need the small guys.
- 2:41Speaker 0: Yeah.
- 2:41Speaker 0: You can't build a complex jet if you don't have local companies making the wiring harnesses or the software components.
- 2:48Speaker 1: And that is where Fahad Alanasi's update comes in.
- 2:50Speaker 1: He highlighted the launch of something called Tajseer Plus.
- 2:54Speaker 0: The new supplier platform.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 2:56Speaker 1: a platform designed specifically to empower SMEs, the small and medium enterprises.
- 3:01Speaker 0: It's all about strengthening
- 3:02Speaker 1: that industrial integration.
- 3:03Speaker 1: It's democratizing
- 3:04Speaker 0: the industry locally.
- 3:05Speaker 1: It is, and you could really feel that shift in the posts from people in the private sector.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Ahmed Eli Gaki from the Benjamin group, he had a really interesting take.
- 3:14Speaker 1: He said that local partnerships are no longer just a nice to have.
- 3:18Speaker 0: No, they're mandatory now.
- 3:19Speaker 0: That's the new reality.
- 3:20Speaker 0: If you're a foreign company, you can't just ship a crate anymore.
- 3:23Speaker 0: You have to integrate.
- 3:25Speaker 0: You have to transfer knowledge.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Elagaki's whole point was about sustainable growth.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You have to be part of the ecosystem, not just a vendor passing through.
- 3:33Speaker 0: And there's a branding piece to this too, right?
- 3:35Speaker 0: Romel Cabani touched on it.
- 3:36Speaker 0: He noted that Saudi Arabia isn't just building capability.
- 3:39Speaker 1: It's shaping a narrative.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I really liked that observation.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Me too.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Kobani said, the confidence you see from these local organizations is it's a collision of strategy, brand, and just pure national ambition.
- 3:52Speaker 1: They aren't just making parts.
- 3:53Speaker 1: They're telling a story to the world, a story that says, we are makers, not just buyers.
- 3:58Speaker 0: Speaking of telling stories, let's move to our second theme, air power.
- 4:02Speaker 0: Because in the defense world, nothing screams narrative quite like a fighter jet.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Air power is always the showstopper, always.
- 4:09Speaker 0: And... There was one specific visual that just seemed to break the defense corner of LinkedIn, the F- Thirty-Five.
- 4:17Speaker 0: But it wasn't just sitting there.
- 4:18Speaker 1: No.
- 4:19Speaker 1: It was a full-scale mock-up, and it had a Saudi flag right on it.
- 4:24Speaker 0: Bilal Hussein posted about this, and he did not mince words.
- 4:28Speaker 0: He called it not a subtle move.
- 4:30Speaker 0: Well,
- 4:30Speaker 1: it's definitely not subtle.
- 4:31Speaker 1: It's basically a billboard for geopolitical ambition.
- 4:34Speaker 1: And Abdullah al-Malki also weighed in on this.
- 4:37Speaker 1: He pointed out that the F- Thirty-Five symbolizes the future of air combat.
- 4:41Speaker 0: Which isn't about dog fighting anymore.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Not really.
- 4:43Speaker 1: It's about being networked.
- 4:45Speaker 1: It's software-centric.
- 4:46Speaker 1: It's
- 4:46Speaker 0: a flying data center that can also shoot.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Pretty much.
- 4:49Speaker 1: And Muhammad al-Ashkar added some concrete details, noting plans to purchase up to forty-eight of them.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Plus, they had demo flyovers.
- 4:56Speaker 1: It's a very public statement of intent from the Royal Saudi Air Force.
- 4:59Speaker 0: But, and this is where you see the multipolar nature of the show.
- 5:02Speaker 0: It wasn't just American hardware turning heads.
- 5:05Speaker 0: The Turkish aerospace presence was massive.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Huge.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Two SI's, Turkish Aerospace.
- 5:11Speaker 1: They really brought their A-game.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Goksel Yildirim shared some incredible details about their display.
- 5:16Speaker 1: They didn't just bring static models of the K-AN fighter.
- 5:20Speaker 1: They
- 5:20Speaker 0: showed the autonomous wingman concept.
- 5:22Speaker 0: Yes.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And this is a crucial concept for the future.
- 5:25Speaker 1: You have the man K-AN fighter acting in sync with Anka III drones.
- 5:30Speaker 1: The pilot is kind of like a quarterback for the drones.
- 5:32Speaker 0: And the display wasn't just a poster on a wall, it was dynamic.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 5:36Speaker 1: It was a glimpse into to real manned-unmanned teaming.
- 5:40Speaker 1: And honestly, the way they sold it was just as interesting.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Ramazan Talayu posted about their marketing.
- 5:46Speaker 1: He noted they shifted from just listing specs.
- 5:48Speaker 0: This goes mock-to, this carries X pounds.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:51Speaker 1: They moved to what he called conceptual storytelling.
- 5:54Speaker 1: They sell the problem first and let the visitor experience the solution.
- 5:58Speaker 1: It shows a real maturity in how they engage with customers.
- 6:00Speaker 0: And we can't talk air power without the home team.
- 6:03Speaker 0: Syed Sadaquian-Heider noted the first public operational display of the Hawk- one sixty-five by the Saudi Hawks.
- 6:10Speaker 1: A very proud moment for the kingdom for sure.
- 6:12Speaker 1: It just reinforces that idea of operational readiness.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Okay,
- 6:15Speaker 0: let's get down from the clouds for a minute and talk about what's happening on the ground.
- 6:19Speaker 0: Theme three, unmanned and robotics.
- 6:22Speaker 1: This is where the innovation cycle feels the fastest.
- 6:25Speaker 1: The barrier to entry is lower, so you see all this rapid prototyping.
- 6:29Speaker 0: Alexander K. from Lockheed Martin UK showed off something that really caught my eye.
- 6:35Speaker 0: An uncrewed turret.
- 6:36Speaker 0: But the key phrase he used was platform agnostic.
- 6:40Speaker 1: That modularity is the key trend.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Platform agnostic means you can bolt that turret onto a tracked vehicle, a four by four or whatever.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It gives commanders so much more flexibility.
- 6:51Speaker 1: But
- 6:51Speaker 0: the bigger trend... and Walid Meskin from the Unmanned Zone pointed this out, is that we're moving past just building better remote control cars.
- 6:59Speaker 0: He's the phrase systems of systems.
- 7:01Speaker 1: That's the holy grail of modern defense tech.
- 7:03Speaker 1: It's not about the individual drone.
- 7:05Speaker 1: It's about perception, comms, and command, all working as one seamless network.
- 7:09Speaker 0: So if a drone sees something, the artillery knows about it instantly.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Without a human having to pick up a radio, that's the goal.
- 7:16Speaker 0: And of course, if everyone has drones, everyone needs a way to stop them.
- 7:19Speaker 0: Counter-UAS was a huge topic.
- 7:21Speaker 0: It
- 7:21Speaker 1: had to be.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Martin Appell from Drone Shield made a great point.
- 7:24Speaker 1: He said, CUAS isn't about a single sensor in a quiet field anymore.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It's about systems that can operate in really congested airspace.
- 7:33Speaker 0: Because the sky is just getting crowded.
- 7:35Speaker 0: Friendly drones, commercial traffic, threats, all mixed up.
- 7:39Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And Verona Kumar Supermanium from TRD Singapore was there showcasing combat proven solutions.
- 7:46Speaker 1: that phrase combat proven was everywhere.
- 7:50Speaker 1: People don't want experiments, they want what works.
- 7:52Speaker 0: Before we move on, I have to mention a slightly more sci-fi moment.
- 7:56Speaker 0: Gerovsch Fultonovy from the Slovak delegation shared something pretty wild.
- 8:00Speaker 0: The
- 8:01Speaker 1: AI soldier.
- 8:02Speaker 0: The AI soldier.
- 8:02Speaker 0: They had a hologram box with an AI soldier in a Slovak uniform.
- 8:06Speaker 1: It sounds a bit like a movie prop.
- 8:07Speaker 0: A little, but Gerovsch said it was a way to present complex tech in an engaging way.
- 8:11Speaker 0: I mean, at a trade show, capturing attention is half the battle.
- 8:14Speaker 0: True.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Okay, so moving to Theme Four.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Land, naval, and geopolitics, we're seeing a lot of cross-border integration.
- 8:20Speaker 1: A
- 8:20Speaker 0: prime example of that co-production theme.
- 8:23Speaker 0: Haka Alkan and Suleyman Shen shared an update about Esselson, the Turkish giant.
- 8:28Speaker 0: They integrated their gunshot detection system onto a South Korean vehicle.
- 8:32Speaker 1: The Hanwa Taigon, eight by eight.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So you have Turkish sensors on a Korean truck being showcased in Saudi Arabia.
- 8:38Speaker 0: That is the modern defense industry in a nutshell.
- 8:41Speaker 0: It's modular.
- 8:42Speaker 0: global and it's about fitting the best tech to the best platform.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Speaking of capability, Ali K. Chishti from Pakistan dropped a bombshell about the Samash missile.
- 8:51Speaker 1: The
- 8:51Speaker 0: hypersonic developments.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Right.
- 8:53Speaker 1: GITS Pakistan unveiled this missile and he said it travels at Mach eight point.
- 8:57Speaker 1: so plus.
- 8:58Speaker 0: Mach eight.
- 8:59Speaker 0: That is incredibly fast.
- 9:00Speaker 0: It's
- 9:00Speaker 1: blistering.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And Chishti called it a game changer for regional A to A D anti-accessory denial.
- 9:06Speaker 1: with a missile that fast you can deny an enemy Navy access to a huge patch of ocean.
- 9:11Speaker 0: Which brings us to the naval side.
- 9:13Speaker 0: Romel Kobani had another great observation, this time about Coast Guard boats from Zid Marine.
- 9:18Speaker 0: He noted the serious craftsmanship, but with a touch of fun.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Fun is not a word you hear often in defense analysis.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Right.
- 9:25Speaker 0: But I think he was talking about the design aesthetic, the pride in the build.
- 9:28Speaker 0: It shows a confidence in the sector.
- 9:30Speaker 1: No, I want to get your take on the geopolitical angle here.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Jack Mijuli had some really deep insights on who the kingdom's friends are on the show floor.
- 9:37Speaker 0: Mijuli's observations were very telling.
- 9:39Speaker 0: He noted the high visibility of Chinese defense tech.
- 9:43Speaker 0: He specifically saw a localized version of the JF-Seventeen Thunder.
- 9:48Speaker 1: And he quoted a Saudi friend who told him, we like to have many friends.
- 9:53Speaker 0: That is the crucial line.
- 9:55Speaker 0: Midsley's analysis is that the kingdom is driving for autonomy.
- 9:58Speaker 0: They're not putting all their eggs in one basket.
- 10:01Speaker 0: He explicitly said the US can no longer take Saudi business for granted.
- 10:05Speaker 0: So
- 10:05Speaker 1: if the US won't supply something or won't localize it, someone else will.
- 10:09Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 10:10Speaker 0: But it's not just China.
- 10:11Speaker 0: Samina Coret highlighted the huge French presence.
- 10:14Speaker 0: The
- 10:15Speaker 1: largest French pavilion ever deployed.
- 10:17Speaker 1: So you've got the
- 10:17Speaker 1: U.S.,
- 10:18Speaker 1: China, Turkey, France, Korea, all vying for position in this new ecosystem.
- 10:24Speaker 1: It's a geopolitical dance happening in real time.
- 10:26Speaker 0: It really is.
- 10:27Speaker 0: Okay, let's pivot to our final theme.
- 10:29Speaker 0: We've talked about all the hardware you can touch.
- 10:31Speaker 0: The theme five is about the invisible battlefield.
- 10:34Speaker 1: This is where the war is actually won or lost today.
- 10:37Speaker 1: It's the digital backbone.
- 10:39Speaker 0: Nasser Umar Damora put it, Very bluntly, he asked, who controls the data?
- 10:44Speaker 0: Who trains the models?
- 10:45Speaker 1: It's a profound shift.
- 10:46Speaker 1: He argued that AI and cybersecurity aren't support functions anymore.
- 10:51Speaker 1: They are frontline capabilities.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.
- 10:53Speaker 1: If your enemy poisons your AI model, your Mock-Ate missile is useless.
- 10:58Speaker 0: So the data is the weapon?
- 11:00Speaker 1: Precisely.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And space is a huge part of this.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Gianluca Seroni from ArgoTech was there.
- 11:05Speaker 1: showing adaptable, small satellite platforms.
- 11:08Speaker 1: And
- 11:08Speaker 0: Abdullah Al-Nazi from NeoSpace Group highlighted how space tech is just fundamentally shaping modern operations.
- 11:14Speaker 1: You need those eyes in the sky.
- 11:16Speaker 1: And
- 11:16Speaker 0: you need connectivity.
- 11:17Speaker 0: Ahmed Lasla mentioned a big no-you between SDC and Ericsson.
- 11:20Speaker 0: Right.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Five G for defense.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Mission-critical, secure communications.
- 11:25Speaker 0: Why is five G so important here?
- 11:27Speaker 0: It's not just about faster downloads, right?
- 11:29Speaker 1: No, it's about latency and density.
- 11:31Speaker 1: It's the military's nervous system.
- 11:33Speaker 1: If you look at all the themes we've discussed, the F- Thirty-Five, the drone systems, the integrated vehicles, they all rely on massive amounts of data being transferred instantly and securely.
- 11:43Speaker 1: That deal is the plumbing that makes everything else work.
- 11:47Speaker 0: So when we step back and look at all these different posts, what's the big picture?
- 11:52Speaker 1: I think we're seeing a maturation.
- 11:54Speaker 1: The World Defense Show implies Saudi Arabia is transitioning from a passive buyer to a very active global industrial hub.
- 12:02Speaker 0: And they're doing it with a huge focus on Maiden Saudi weaving AI into everything and maintaining this really diverse portfolio of geopolitical partnerships.
- 12:12Speaker 0: Exactly.
- 12:12Speaker 1: They're building a resilient ecosystem that doesn't rely on any single outside power.
- 12:17Speaker 1: That for me is the big takeaway.
- 12:19Speaker 0: It's been a fascinating look into where defense is headed.
- 12:21Speaker 0: If you enjoyed this episode, new episodes drop every two weeks.
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- 12:34Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and keep questioning what you see.
- 12:36Speaker 0: See you next time.