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The Media Problem Nobody's Talking About - Ep. 167 w/ Barry Jennings (The Uprising Network) · Black Fridays: Business Growth for Entrepreneurs, Creators & Professionals

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[SPEAKER_03]: The uprising network was just to create it to change the perception of the trade in the media.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I started, there wasn't no black folks doing what I'm doing on the ground level right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There wasn't any black folks on the ground level that was on the scene of these things happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So with the perception being always the trade is dirty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's gritty, abandoned buildings, bankruptcy, all those things like wrote the sunshines here too people knew like I knew what I was doing with a camera So when I formed the uprising there where he was fairly easy to get people to be on board like I want to do an interview I want to highlight you or I want to do a show like this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I gave a lot to the community Okay 15 years to the community to the creative space not to say that I'm not here to be a resource to people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that But I have to treat it a lot different now
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that we got that business out of the way, I want to introduce you to one of our media pioneers in the city Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As always, put an all for our community and our people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Berry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so happy to be here to hear a pioneer, wow, y'all really be aging me man, y'all be aging me, but I love here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That means a lot to me to hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 10 years in the game with the uprising network, which would be later this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm so I would love to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: be able to, well, first I want to understand because I've been tapped into a rise and I think I told you before we started rolling for at least the five years, last five years minimum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as Jen has been on the platform and then of course I know you know the homie JG and then I've been tapped into the latest show, Grommie's World and then also all the other shows that's been on that seat of homie's on, got to eat and yeah all the all the program minutes back, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the folks who haven't been exposed to the uprising that we're talking about, it's origins and then what exactly is the uprising that we're.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the, the short answer, but really explains it the most.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uprising network was just to create it to change the perception of the trait in the media.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, when I started, there wasn't no black folks doing what I'm doing on the ground level right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There wasn't any black folks on the ground level that was on the scene of these things happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So with the perception being always to trade is dirty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's gritty, abandoned buildings, bankruptcies, all those things like, wrote the sunshines here too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you look at the uprising logo, you see that the sun is shining here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you, why the uprising network?
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[SPEAKER_03]: in terms of why you named it because I wanted it to feel like a revolution.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, I mean, it's ties to, of course, the the riots that happened in 67, which, you know, people considered that uprising as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it has a lot to do with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like fighting back versus a lot of the at the time of like the gentrification was really becoming like very prevalent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: at the time, and it was just like me, like kind of fighting back on new Detroit versus old Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before you got into the uprising that work, what was your journey like before?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that you, um, in a previous conversation mentioned that you were inspiring the rap, and that's where you were going to start the, or this is where that thing was kind of born out of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The start, like if it was a video game, level one was me being a trying to, well, I'm trying being a rapper on the scene with the performances and mix tapes and albums and like we were selling physicals at that time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's how long that was, yeah, that was it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when
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[SPEAKER_03]: it started being like more like the blog error had really created made it much easier to become seen as an artist so that number was just growing exponentially on the scene at these parties and the next thing you know is 20 people listed on the flyer and you show up you 15 and I'm like wow
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm performing at 14 people performing before me like everybody we not all get known.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's not all It's like let's let's be honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's not me being, you know Negative about it, but honestly, we like everybody's not gonna make it so it's like all right, so I'm stepping out I'm gonna document how this looks so I'm gonna start shooting music videos because that wasn't affordable either Yeah, people were making music, but nobody was tapping in to do music videos
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I started with that, and from music videos, it transformed into the Uprising Network.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once I stopped, I wanted to work a rappers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When did you pick up your first camera, so to speak, and then what was that, something like for you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I bought my first camera in the spring of 2011.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was coming up 15 years of my, started my career, to spring.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I bought it like with my taxes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was working at Target at the time at Eastland and uh, my taxes was like maybe like $1200 or something and I spent it all on Amazon same day and I'm watching every day when it's okay here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When it's going to get here and I finally get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got a can of T3I
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[SPEAKER_01]: a 50 millimeter and like a road on camera mic or something like that and I just hit the ground running dope and what were dope some of those early days like for you as you were starting to navigate that when you start navigate and build this thing out because like you say you you started in the music career and it's like all right let me pivot but then not you pivot you pivot it and you're working with the the people that you want to be able to display and
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well because of the music video era that I had people knew like I knew what I was doing with a camera So when I formed the uprising now where he was fairly easy to get people to be on board Like I want to do an interview I want to highlight you or I want to do a show like this So it was fairly easy but in the beginning with the music videos It was like you were rapper like why are you trying to shoot my music video in your ways supposed to be like in competition with each other Right, so it was a lot of nose in the beginning
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[SPEAKER_03]: whole lot of know's in the beginning until I ran into our this name is the loopers and we shot a video at Bellau one day and from there he took off and from there I had a had a name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what was it been like in terms of like, I just think about the relationships and the media business and media entertainment business, especially in the city of Detroit, like, maintain their relationships, because it seemed like it could be hard over time because of the thickness of the industry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to speak, and one thing I noted to you, pride yourself on is that you've been able to maintain a lot of relationships throughout the years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does that been like in terms of navigating this whole media entertainment space for so long?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, when I started, it wasn't, it wasn't no other platform that was, the platform, the platform that was around were more like music based.
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[SPEAKER_03]: up rising it was I really had support from the giddy up I really did when I had a launch party like I launched I had a through a launch party like two months after we launched on YouTube and we packed out the Baltimore Gallery and it was a so many people there that I didn't even know it didn't even know who I was but they came and showed out for me and I
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had everybody dressed up in here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The rapper showed up dressed up and we're in a bubble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So pack that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And from there, like I really had like a little base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a base of people that really supported me all through that journey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's because it's just showing and proven like I'm just not going to stop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to keep going and because of that, people see it on serious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We go around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's something I've noticed this will in terms of being able to show your portfolio of work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People you connect to win stuff like that, especially on video or audio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once people can see that, like they know like, okay, you got some social proof.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You serious about what it is that you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it makes that, yes, a lot easier versus just like, oh, I ain't got time for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just another.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, random asking me for time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with the uprising, there were nobody's ever told me no, like anything that I needed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And most of the people that's been on the network are like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to say friends, because I didn't grow up together, but these are people I met while I was outside.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I met, made my own connections, and we wouldn't go to school together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We, you know, we didn't have to relate it any kind of way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: These are all people I went out and shook hands and made with these relationships on my own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I pride myself on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And can you give a shout out to the shows that's currently on the uprising network and to our past shows that you Packed or projects that you've been proud of so people can't understand the portfolio of the uprising that we have of course Action show we have grommies where that's all right now with a lot of Leona's action with with Jim Let's see what else we had big play clay show for a while.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah snacks in the city.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had ladies love lyrics
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... masha sincerely yours is a podcast at one point in a turn into a confessional uh... we've done uh... it happened to trait which we'll talk about a little bit later that's going to be growing um... i've had so many ideas over the year a lot of times it'd be like one episode of something and i've never seen her from again but it's the idea that i just wanted to see happen so it's been so many i've been produced
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[SPEAKER_03]: more than I probably remember at this point got you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so we're going definitely tap back into the story of Rise and Network, but before we get into that, I want to introduce you my favorite part of Black Friday, but it's free style Friday, it's all over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think you know, I think you know where it is going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know this is coming though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It don't be honest, I have not prepared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You started this thing in the in the rap game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I I need Man, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just playing my grandson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, some of my old music the other day and I can't you remember I'll go say my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a birthday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember none of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember none of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll under the rapper fight question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so in your mind what's the go television show
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you don't want sitcoms, I say Martin, that's my favorite show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can watch that backwards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the episodes backwards and forwards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, I own the DVDs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch it like I've never seen it before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even though I can recite all of the lines of the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a favorite independent project movie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell them to show whatever that is not yours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or that you didn't play a part in it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ooh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or that comes the memory.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's recent.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Favorite.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, that's a tough question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watch a lot of documentaries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, um, I've, that's really been a, I'm not saying lately, sports and documentaries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So as far as some series,
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's tough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't think of nothing on the top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but mostly I've been mostly in documentaries lately, so all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we if it come to you, we're going to let's do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you could name Give me five Detroiters that you would put if you had to if you had to record a show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a brand new show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just got five people that you're going to put in the room and you're going to let them go and you know it's going to be magic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would those five people be?
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's me alive.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I mean, I meant to say that, but I was going to see, I was trying to see what you come up with first but yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: like a podcast shoot like something something where you just throwing them in a room and okay a chopping it up okay I probably would do it would probably be something like perili from seven out of a lot we when you so seven out of a lot from from them days I was inspired by him growing up uh like RJ from turbulence yep um uh wow okay um uh what's another to more Detroiters man you really you
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm drawing a blank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm drawing a blank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a little comedian in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a C. P. A C P in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would like to see what see is perspective.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, say five.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why not me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to sit there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: bring Jim with me because I feel like some questions that I probably wouldn't think to ask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Being one of our ambassadors of the city, you got a friend that's never been here coming in the town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What places are you taking them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got 24 hours to get them Detroit experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I say like, maybe Detroit music, the Detroit historical museum, all the Detroit related stuff, music, all the time, the Detroit historical museum, I definitely, River Walk on like the summer day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I'm sure I'm not able by to say, I can get him still thinking about, but that's those days is over with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe even Chandler Park these days, maybe somewhere like a large group of black folks get together to fellowship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Chandler Park still be jumping in the summer for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, do we want more?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll probably just take a cruise around the city like we've all done that before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just cruise around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just take, see, we'll see what it'll try summer for like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Barry, which you listen to right now, what you got in rotation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What am I listening to?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been listening to a lot of Stevie Wonder lately Apple music had just had hit show me my recap A lot of I have young gazelle the I don't know I can't like that's my that's the music that I listen to when I'm working a lot of catering Not a lot of Jay dilla.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's like my work
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[SPEAKER_03]: create time music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, my Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Jay Dillah, and Babyface.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've had that come up, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Babyface or Babyface, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Babyface, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so appreciate you for partaking a freestyle Friday, even though you didn't actually freestyle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm had to get copy of these mixed dates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have no regrets.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I have to put something on streaming platform, just to say that it's there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that was part of my creative journey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to happen when I get to my short films and then the soundtrack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the pocket I can do that in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do the whole album, stop a single.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just put a little feature on there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Might have a little name, but nobody knows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Barry, I love to ask my guests, especially someone like yourself who's been able to drive in the creative space for a period of time, and then be able to make a career out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For you, when did you realize that there were opportunities here that was going to be able to help you sustain your lifestyle?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Essentially, how did you, what aspects of your creation process and what you did, the projects that you worked on that created, be able to provide financial opportunity
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[SPEAKER_05]: and what stage was that and how long would you say that took?
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[SPEAKER_03]: At this point, I'm not sure the way the way the rules continuously change, I haven't really created anything that I've been able to live off of yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, I still have a nine to five.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK. And then things that I make money off of, because all of my work is on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not selling anything like any content or anything yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just coming.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like my the way did I been able to keep the network going is because of the like the one thing that's me standing is the hoodie's like a moneyware right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I've been selling no since 20 the top of 2020 and they always been moving for me and you know it helps me when to create and not have to worry about asking for money from others and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's definitely an avenue of monetization, which I think is extremely important as well, because I think that a lot of people and under you can attest to this, your YouTube channel is monetized, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right, so perfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people really try to get into the content creation game focused on that, but I literally just reached the status of monetization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I'm gonna find out, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Typically, what I've heard from the people who do it at the highest level, just from my own research and reading, is that that's the lowest level of payment in terms of your creation journey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're really going to make your bag elsewhere, and you have to have kind of several things that come together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's say, for example, like what we do in media and just podcast and just using that as a staple, you've got to have your podcast, you've got to have
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[SPEAKER_01]: merchandise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to have brand deals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to have sponsors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to if you're going to make it something that's going to be sustainable because none of them is just going to be yo, you'll want your one ticket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They all have to be emotional in the same time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing about that is like a lot of creators like what we don't want a lot of us don't want to do all of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to have to Stiff to say, to to showcase my work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to have to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: shake on TikTok to make you watch my video and I'm doing trends and yeah, it's isn't all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do all the day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to be at the back of my day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Before Instagram and TikTok when Instagram was like 15 seconds, you was only posting for videos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: everything was like directed to YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the numbers on YouTube was looking like something in YouTube was paying a lot more back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now it's so spaced out that there's no one centralized location to find the type of work that I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I'm like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't really created anything yet in that capacity that I can live off of as of right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of my work is for the love of the game, but we haven't fun doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not to say that the people that's involved in these projects are making money off of what we've created with the network.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that, but I'm saying it hasn't been enough for me to necessarily live off of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And is that a go of yours or are you strictly, you want to continue to do it for me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to end up going to just...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Season 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a sports guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, going to season 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to carry this a lot different than I've been carrying the last 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like a lot of these projects that I Was doing to kind of build my name in my resume
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did, I, I, I gave a lot to the community.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I gave 15 years to the community to the creative space.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not to say that I'm not here to be a resource to people, I'm not saying it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I have to treat it a lot different now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm unselfishly you gave to it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm unselfishly gave, I gave so much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So much didn't even have my name on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But in so much, I mean, did so many projects that I feel you've forgotten about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In people I may have forgotten about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But going at the season 10, I have to be a lot more intentional on being profitable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And listen to sincerely yours, which is your platform, like you said with podcast, turning to essentially kind of like a video diary, so to speak, testimonial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was listening to some of the more recent episodes of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I could hear your, your,
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[SPEAKER_01]: frustration but also enlightenment in terms of exactly what you just said like you gave so much to help out so many different people and things like that and didn't ask for anything in return but like you you noted you have to be super intentional in this season in order to get the things that you aspire to have when when did that hit you as a as a creative.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you say you watched that video around that time, but it was like a round like October, top in November of last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like a, it didn't, it'd be, I'm going to be real transparent here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like when I, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: when I was shooting music videos and every year I would see people like my videos get like the same way as now, like getting recognized.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My videos are getting recognized.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Artists that don't work with getting recognized.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My name would never be in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm never in a conversation for best director.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Has my work be nominated as the best, but the director isn't being nominated for anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm at the point now, I'm saying, I'm not looking for any, any true, being transactional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It just feels like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm boxed out at this point somehow when I was here before all of this and it's just like now I just want to carry I want I need to be a little more selfish now, you know, but and I can't be Feel guilty because initially when I was starting to feel this way I was starting to feel guilty Like yeah, I feel like I'm gonna let some people know But it is what it is 15 years long my career flash before my eyes when that started happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that I saw that the end of oh back to the point of Like October November I was starting to see the same thing happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like how does it that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't work with some of everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't gave some of everybody and I'm never invited to work I'm never invited to collaborate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You see me collaborate is me reaching out my name or my platform I never in the mix for nothing, but I didn't gave to everybody around here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay fine I'm gonna take my wallet and I'm gonna go ahead and just play in the backyard by myself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna see what that look like for a while
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can definitely, well, first and foremost, the people that I know that know you that have come on this platform or that I know in general, speak very highly of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So your name, your credit is good in these streets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your credit is good in these streets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of, I can definitely identify with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think that this is also a delicate balance to be able to
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[SPEAKER_01]: you don't necessarily create for the accolades, but like you said, it's a lot of the love of the game, otherwise you would have stopped doing a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't necessarily create for the accolades, but it's also like, it ain't like you don't want them, or like, you know, you don't want to be recognized for the work that you do, and, and, and, and, and, and,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of deal with that, you know, sometimes, for example, I had, um, went for our Detroit of Best Podcasts, uh, and so last year, I got in the final five, got beat out by the same brown podcast, which I figured probably would be the case, but I'm like, I can, I can hang my head on the fact that my show actually shot in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, uh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fast forward to this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided not to go after just because like I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to jump through all the hoost for that particular award And then also you know, I kind of have my own grievances with the process of how that particular process goes with with with with outwardly trait But it's just like how do you how do you how do you position yourself for those things Without like feeling
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a great question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was hoping you asked me this because I was a 50-50 well, how I was really going to answer this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If I had to compare it to a basketball like 10, if I if you give me the ball, I'm going to give you 50.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you need me to get other people involved in the game, I'm going to make them look like MVP's.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you need me to
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[SPEAKER_03]: be the president, the organization and put everybody in place to make this run cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You need me to be the financial person to make sure this, like nothing looks like something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because I've been making this work with, with nothing to make it look like something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You need me to go into the creative department and create merchandise that people actually want to buy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can do that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look around to see, can nobody do not have with me on the court.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody around here can do none with me, so that's also a part of the reason why I'm feeling I'm feeling like we'll Smith to last episode of Fresh Press.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I've done it all and I can I feel like now I can say that because I did it I told you what I was going to do show you how to do it and I actually did it right with everything I said I was going to do so yes now I'm going to talk about it and I'm going to talk like that so I'm glad you asked that thank you for sure so it's a part of your immediate run because I noticed that you were on a bounce recently and being able to being able to share your story so this is this is this you remember Kobe went for like 50 points like this guy is this is that run
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm absolutely carrying a different for sure for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it is for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I'm glad you asked me you did because I'm like one thing about it is I'm like, I don't want to ask nobody to interview me because like while I want to ask them to do their research, like I feel like it just kind of is like the mistake of an interview is just like if I ask you hey man, can I come on your show?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, don't feel as natural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: disagree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree as a as a person who sits in this seat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree with that because I feel like why I know it's pride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 100% and I say that because I deal with that often where people that I know or have come in contact with, they like, I don't heard a bunch of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody been on your show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't been up there yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye-bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What stopped you from just saying, hey, Denzel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to come on your podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can we can talk about X, Y, and Z.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got any openings?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's wrong with that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong with that at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to do it myself soon because I have services and things that I'm about to get ready to roll out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, it's pride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I bought it down to it's pride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's where I disagree with that part.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK, I just, I'm also don't like me in center of attention either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just feels funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It just feels funny to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I always appreciate when people do ask.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're watching this, I would love to come on your show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to tell my story or talk to you about your story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm willing to sit with anybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So just, just tell me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about to go crazy, you know, you didn't open the gate and look at this, it's about to go up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're about to have about 10 interviews and three days, thank you for your help, so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But somebody who, um, company I used to work for, I think, one of the VPs kind of put it like this in terms of, like, not want to be the center of tension, things like that, like they felt the same way, but because of the seat that they said in, the realization that they came to is that with stuff that they've learned, experiences that they had, the things that they know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then not going, putting themselves out there to talk about certain things was a disservice to other people that they could truly serve and be able to help out in which from what I'm Gathering you is something that's important to you as being able to put your people on look out for the community things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So by you kind of sitting back and like I'm not going Raise my hand that might be a disservice to that that that young boy out there who really want to do what you're doing and can and can really get some inspiration and get on from what you do
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hear you, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I also part of the reason why I do some silly words the way I do because I'm like, no, nobody's asking.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, I'm just going to just give you what is happening when it's happening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can flip through and maybe find it at some point that might be beneficial to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just feel like that's my way of like giving the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, but I do have a couple of internals as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, but yeah, that's, I feel like us,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I feel like I'm very approachable even though I'm in a different era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in I feel like I'm bra and going to Miami era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I am still very approachable in a resource to people I am.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's just who I am.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of the content that you develop for the horizon network, how does that typically come about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm, it literally is like, oh, I got an idea like for lunch for grommies world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I woke up one day and said, I want to do a reality show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to, what does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who could I use first name the pop line was the first one that popped in my head and here we are with season six drop in the world Episode six season yeah, so six drop in so we asked us like one more episode after that so it's total seven episode just been a great response I've just the first time I had any black
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[SPEAKER_03]: People were like, when we took like a two, three week break and people were like beating on our DM's, hey, where's everybody?
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[SPEAKER_03]: When I was on that, when I was on that, I've never had that before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's people that I don't, for no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or don't want to follow in that word, but they follow in because of line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was exciting for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I had just waking up and saying, oh, to answer your question, where the comes from, it just comes from like literally my imagination.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could just be daydreaming one day and I'm like, oh, I want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: have people pitch you on shows before in terms of, yes, but not work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you take the ideas or have you uh told them going from work?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the one thing is like a lot of when people approach me with the ideas is never like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: ready to execute that's like it's just a thought yeah it's not like I'm ready to work I just want you to hear me talk about it for a second so that's like 99% of the time yeah or the check my temperature to see if it's something I would be excited to do and then pull you along to do it but like no nobody really comes to me with developed ideas
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think nobody's ever really came to me with a developed idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I take that back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did a show of real talk with a during days.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was already running before they came with me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Got you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was one show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then could you talk about some of the challenges being in this space?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, yeah, I mean, I could run down the list, but I would love to know for somebody who'd been doing that a lot longer than me, what has been some of the challenges that some of the biggest challenges that you've had or hurdles you had to overcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The biggest challenge is when you, when I look at the content that's like low level, like low energy content that just go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It just, okay, I want to put it this way, but I feel like I was about to say something that was going to be offensive, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I'm creating it, so I
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[SPEAKER_03]: Energy put behind it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it don't get like I feel like it's harder for that type of work like the what you doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like You got a three camera set up here like what would it would it show like yours?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can have somebody with a literal cell phone sitting up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they numbers be doing crazier than what yours is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the first thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I try to make my show look like a production.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And even if it may not be a real production like a TV studio, I wanted to look like a production.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And with all the effort and energy and the time that goes into it, you look at somewhere and you be like, I mean, I don't ever thought this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because the stuff that I see people going crazy over,
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[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't even really put that much effort into so those are some of the biggest challenges and some of the things that that might be like discouraging some time But yeah, I got a stick to how that's my standard got a stick to my standard no matter how many times the rule change I got a stick to my own standard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you find it hard to detach from your content that you put up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, like when it's when it's when it's dried up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, just move on the next thing because my
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[SPEAKER_03]: My I did like it's like water is like all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I got three four five other ideas lined up next ready whenever I'm ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I don't get when it's when it's something I've had issues in the network where I may have not won a lesson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody go and it may go a little too long because I've got the relationship with them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that this happened before, but when it's when it's time, I just, I'll be off to the next when I don't, I don't even think about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have no conscious when it comes to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about looking like I'm failing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about...
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[SPEAKER_03]: how many ideas don't work, because I only got to be right one time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Facts, facts that, and that is, I was telling some light earlier in terms of my channel just getting monetized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Recently, is that there are maybe less than 10 episodes that probably mainly contributed to that monetization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've done almost probably 200 YouTube videos over 200 interviews in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, like you said, it literally only takes one thing that could shoot you off to this opportunity or to whatever your goals may be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only, the only take you once or a couple of times to hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm going to keep shooting until happening for sure and keep you like what call me go out on 60 points at 50 shots, yeah, that's me looking at them.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That's me.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So in terms of some of the challenges that I know that you deal with and I just know from not even knowing your process, but I just know from being in space as well.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You had mentioned on Cecilia yours,
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of people when it comes to working like actually like putting in work doing these projects stuff like that a lot of people in Detroit are bullshitters and so I just want to
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to talk to you the right.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody be themselves.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:47
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So you had mentioned that.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just want to know what kind of drove you to to that point and saying that that those people are that that's what they are on most of the time.
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm at the point now where.
35:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm doing this so long, and people want that I people think I got all the answers.
35:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I may have some of them.
35:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have all of them.
35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: My thing is like, I get super frustrated when people are scared to start, like, that set, that sets me off.
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, why are you scared to begin to walk in the room?
35:29
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the kind of stuff.
35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: What was your question again?
35:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I was acting.
35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the, you're going more in-depth about people being bullshit.
35:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
35:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have time for it no more.
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't, and when I say bullshiters, it's really just like, people that like, just like having ideas and sitting on them and say they got bright ideas, but you're not executing any of the ideas.
36:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the bullshiters to me.
36:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how have you started to weed those people out and second part to that is, how do you find the people that are about their business and ready to work?
36:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I learned now,
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[SPEAKER_03]: to meet people where they are like they I got to see you working already I got to see you putting in the effort on your own because if you don't want to feel self I can't make you want it and I was a lot where I hit my head at that in the beginning like I was I was see people that have potential and be like how about we do this and then try to fit them and then it don't work and then I'm discouraged like I ain't that didn't work but I just didn't meet people where they were already if it's meet them at they at 40% and I got to bring the other 60 to make you work okay I'm gonna do that but I need to
36:54
[SPEAKER_03]: not sure if I answered that question.
36:56
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you did.
36:57
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
36:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's how we, that's how we, that's how we, the amount like I got to see the effort.
37:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to see that you already put it in the work.
37:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Grommie's world, she already was living in a life you already do all these different things like that.
37:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So I knew that was going to be easy.
37:08
[SPEAKER_03]: With Jen, I saw her answer and questions on Twitter and people was using the hashtag, Axe Jen and I saw that and I was like, ah, I had met Jen before then.
37:19
[SPEAKER_03]: First time I met Jen, she told me.
37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You might want to go into this story.
37:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's all better through a mutual friend of ours, Jasmine.
37:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And at the time, I was working with, I was working at Chrysler, and she was just trying to figure out, who am I, what I was doing, how long I've been doing it.
37:37
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, yeah, you know, I was like, where you work at, I was like, hey, I work at Chrysler.
37:40
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, what's your wife like, you know, Jefferson?
37:42
[SPEAKER_03]: She was like, okay, you know, you got a baby, I'm like, yeah, she's like, you and your mom together.
37:46
[SPEAKER_03]: She was like, man, you were a baby daddy at Chrysler.
37:48
[SPEAKER_03]: The jokes right themselves.
37:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, dang.
37:51
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the first thing Jen ever said to me.
37:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
37:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you remember that, but I'm never going to forget that.
37:58
[SPEAKER_03]: The joke she said, the jokes right themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said, dang.
38:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
38:01
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: First interaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First interaction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up to ask Jen.
38:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So this should be wondering why me and Phil like they, that she hate them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm saying, uh, mean people where they are.
38:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, being people where they were, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
38:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I thought he was funny.
38:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I just saw him on Twitter and Instagram.
38:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was funny and not the one who was running the camera.
38:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And it worked for a while.
38:39
[SPEAKER_03]: People did live shows.
38:40
[SPEAKER_03]: People came and saw that snacks in the city.
38:42
[SPEAKER_03]: One of my earlier shows.
38:43
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw Jasmine and Wanda putting out recipes.
38:46
[SPEAKER_03]: They had like a blog and the recipes in the way it was written.
38:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought like it was very conversational.
38:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And I felt like I kind of knew them based on like how they wrote their recipes.
38:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was really cool.
38:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and that worked for a few years.
38:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Um.
39:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a podcast room with multiple different parts.
39:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm gonna see it all, man.
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: What's some free game?
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You could give people who want to get into this creative game or they keep starting stopping, starting stopping, what game could you give to them to actually build something?
39:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be afraid to get a job.
39:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be a get-free to have some stability while you figure it out, which will create a pathways.
39:29
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people, like, like, I don't know why this, like...
39:35
[SPEAKER_03]: People, this is always been a thing where I remember when I was rapping people would be like this.
39:40
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't want to seem like they were like, they had like, I'm wondering what I'm looking at the camera.
39:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, if I can move to silly yours.
39:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, they don't be afraid to get a job.
39:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's the freest game that I can give.
39:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, don't be afraid to.
39:57
[SPEAKER_03]: To stack your money to invest in your plan that's my big that that's the free his game.
40:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried being a freelancer.
40:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I hated it.
40:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I hated being a freelancer.
40:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just because the money gets in a way into my of my creativity and my art and it's like it's just not for me So I knew getting a job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's my thing which allows me to be a little more freer with my creepy freer
40:18
[SPEAKER_03]: for your my creativity and it just helps with the mental health and everything else that comes with that.
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And what helps you be able to develop your longevity in terms of like keep going like you say, if you had a project or idea, then that's certainly work.
40:35
[SPEAKER_01]: The song on Sean tomorrow, you're going to continue to work on it like you had a bunch of ideas in the chamber already.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So what keeps you going with
40:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The different hurdles, challenges you had to deal with over the years, what's your key to consistency?
40:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I, like, I literally breathe this.
40:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I literally, it's all I think about.
40:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, I can't put it down.
40:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I get ill if I don't do it for a long time.
41:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I son, my phone first and foremost, my son is the reason that I started it.
41:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's, it's like, all right, so if I have to pass something along,
41:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And when I'm too old to do some, and I just want to create just something for him.
41:15
[SPEAKER_03]: So with the uprising network, I feel like it's something that the key pin going.
41:18
[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to get into the game too.
41:19
[SPEAKER_03]: He's 12, but he wants to get into the game too.
41:22
[SPEAKER_03]: So he is my reason for keeping going.
41:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, my, my, I, I literally breathe this.
41:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I,
41:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I always have a new idea, when I'm watching TV or watching a movie on my Ood, that sounds like it's cool.
41:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, I want to do that.
41:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I know somebody that'd have figured with that.
41:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I want to actually, I want to start a record label when maybe you start working with some jazz musicians.
41:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Or I always have ideas, even, like, from this conversation, I'm like, okay, I got something from when I watched this episode back, I'm like, okay, I'm a, I'm a jump on that idea that I just mentioned.
41:53
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's always something, like I said, it's literally flowing like water for me.
41:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would love to be able to talk about in terms of your creativity, a little known fact about you is that you actually had your hand in fashion and you, or fashion design.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure which, how you would deem your title, but I would love to know about that journey as well because I'm, I'm wearing some of the merch and I'd rather than that work.
42:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you, it's one of the most comfortable hoodies I've ever wore in super quality in terms of, like, how to let her come out for you.
42:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it don't seem like I put it in the watch that's going to send me so I live if he did too high my crack a little No, Sam, maybe like hang dry or something were like cool, you know, love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, say less.
42:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that.
42:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, so in 20
42:40
[SPEAKER_03]: 19, I had, uh, I just had an epiphany like you, I need to start really, I got a camera, I got some rinky ding lights at the time, like some from Home Depot, but I'm like, I really need to invest in like productions and make this bigger and it started with got to eat in 2019.
42:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I realized how much production is actually cost, like even on a lower scale is like if I want to do this like frequently I need to find a way I was that I was a crisis point, but I need to find something like a different pot instead of my real life money I need to find a pot to generate through the network.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I came with the bright idea was like New Year's Eve.
43:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sitting there, uh, and I'm just trying to, I'm like, man, I need to come with some merchandise design.
43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and, uh, to end every video, I would say, thanks for watching those three designs.
43:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say, thanks for watching.
43:30
[SPEAKER_03]: That was one shirt.
43:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Create was possibly with the tagline and then it works on, like, okay, that's easy to do that.
43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I, like, it was like a half baked, like, I got to do three, but it had to be three for some reasons.
43:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So I say, uh, like, oh, I'm like, I prayed a black history.
43:44
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I had sent it to my my graphic designer and he sent me a bunch of different concepts and I chose that one and it worked it like I threw it online sold out in an hour did it it must my had appreciation day party where I just want to show everybody a good time to come free food free entry free drinks was free and I sold out that night to
44:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even expect it to actually move like that.
44:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to have it as a option.
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah If it comes next I've been waiting like literally years to to get one to these.
44:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Well, I'm glad you got it man.
44:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say you and I'm gonna say you two more colors too Say less yeah, we got that on camera.
44:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm a man of my words.
44:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he works.
44:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but one time
44:35
[SPEAKER_03]: what really took it to the next level was when Rick Ross wore it.
44:40
[SPEAKER_03]: He threw it on his Instagram.
44:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I sent it to him on a whim like he posted his PO box or something and they're like three weeks later I'm scrolling Instagram and I'm just looking through his story.
44:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just sitting on my couch after a long day of work and I saw it and I was like, no, I didn't know way.
44:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched it like five times.
44:58
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I didn't know way.
44:59
[SPEAKER_03]: He posted on his story.
45:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
45:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I took that and made a commercial with it and then he
45:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So he wasn't an interview, and I didn't post that a bunch of time since the end from there.
45:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Every once in a while, it's some random blog page, a post that entered a quote from that interview with him wearing it, somebody attacked me in it, and it's just to give the kick some give.
45:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've done so many colors.
45:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I probably did like 20 different colors by now.
45:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It just works.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you do more of that in terms of sending merch out to different folks that you
45:32
[SPEAKER_03]: different, I don't want to say celebrities because it could be just people that you that yeah, that you messing it off Yeah, but usually yeah, I don't mind I definitely don't mind doing I've I've given bunch of them away Uh, I don't I don't mind doing that it's just that I don't never really think of about it like that I just happen to see him post his PO box one day.
45:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you're like, okay.
45:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
45:53
[SPEAKER_01]: like why not right yeah so what's your inspiration in terms of like the merchandise and well I know that you said that some the three designs that you started with you just kind of went based off of the you went kind of based off the brand of the platform but in terms of like the inspiration for for numerous that you've come away could like the I haven't seen the hoodie that you haven't
46:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, how do you come up with the Mercer's Eyes and then is there should we expect any new drugs coming up?
46:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I, my, the, ideas is, I just want to wear, I just want to look cool when I'm directing.
46:33
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I, I just want, like, a, a late stage millennial, like, stuff that we will wear on set or going to a game, or, and at the gym, like, I just, it's really that simple, like, stuff that I would have wore at 16.
46:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
46:49
[SPEAKER_03]: And just like ideas that I have in I was 16 and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna put that on shirt now to ask you a question of my gonna do some more, I don't know.
46:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, man, the process of getting like the screen print process or the DTG process, I go back and forth with it.
47:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna say no, but as of right now, it's not like at the front of my mother.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what is your, I'm trying to see if I can steal some game from you.
47:18
[SPEAKER_01]: What is your process in terms of creating these because I need to, it's probably like my fifth, sixth interview talking about how I need to get merged.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But I got to do, I'm doing it this year.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to do it this month.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what's the, the process?
47:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I took from the beginning.
47:30
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I knew that I like championhoods, but champion is one of the most expensive links to you.
47:35
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, my boy, the lawn shut up to the lawn.
47:38
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a screen print and his back, but it wasn't the puff print.
47:41
[SPEAKER_03]: It was the flat screen print.
47:43
[SPEAKER_03]: But his like washed out, like you washed it one time and it started falling off.
47:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So I said, okay, I need to find a different quality hoodie and then I'm going to go to an actual screen print shot.
47:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just ordered a bunch of different black hoodies.
47:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you can go, uh, it's playing full sales sites.
47:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You can buy one off of like, you don't have to buy like 10 up.
48:01
[SPEAKER_03]: You can just buy one of each.
48:03
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just went through the process of elimination and I like this.
48:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, like that is too light.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: How does it wash?
48:09
[SPEAKER_03]: How do the strings feel?
48:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it fall apart easy?
48:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it too thin?
48:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it fit like my, I like my shirts to fit?
48:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I knew that of, of course, they always sell the most in code as well.
48:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So I knew they had to make them a little bit weighted.
48:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Um,
48:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And I found a screen printer and I went through like maybe like four or five different versions of that hoodie before I landed on that brand and then it's not so this is like drop ship and already a structure no okay, no I actually go and
48:39
[SPEAKER_03]: get a bunch of them made at once, and I have them in stock.
48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Got you.
48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
48:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got, you got, you got inventory at house.
48:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to go and say you got the crib for it.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the inventory at the house.
48:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Got you.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So Barry, what is on the horizon for the uprising network in terms of projects that you working on?
48:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned some of the things that you plan on doing this year, and sincerely yours for the folks that are watching, listening to make sure you type in to that.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But to hear from you here on this platform, what are you working on?
49:08
[SPEAKER_03]: project is the next bigger project on the network is I've did a few episodes of it happened in the trade right now with the literary literacy crisis that we in the midst of and the trying to erase black history I need to
49:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to do my part in preserving these stories and I got to do it in the place that I know I had to trade as the crib, so I got to take care of the world that I know.
49:33
[SPEAKER_03]: So starting with that, what did happen in the Trace series, but it's really called the American History Project.
49:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Originally it was going to be called the Black History Project and I was going to drop every day Black History.
49:44
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm like, no, this isn't just black history.
49:46
[SPEAKER_03]: This is American history.
49:47
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to kind of put a seal in on it.
49:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I want everybody to take a look at this.
49:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So with the American history project, we're going to start with telling this going to be 30 episodes telling the history of Detroit.
49:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You go to YouTube and you search in history at a trade or moments in history and a trade and you go, you're going to see the Packer plant, you're going to see all these abandoned buildings, you're going to see nothing but destitution.
50:12
[SPEAKER_03]: You look at the mainstream movies.
50:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Every movie that takes place in the trade looks like a lawless land, looks like the sun don't shine here, it looks gray here, it's nothing but criminal activity.
50:22
[SPEAKER_03]: You look even though Tobi being made, everybody is in distress, everybody got to get this money.
50:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody got to see everybody again beat on right like whoa like damn like we have actually do have fun here in Detroit right so first We don't clean all this up on YouTube I'm gonna put then that 30 part series of these 300 plus years of Detroit and we'll start there So we're gonna tell this this this will be black because the trade is a black cities We mostly told Taylor towards black stores.
50:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's the first thing and through that it happened in Detroit We're gonna be cleaning that up so and then from there the short films
50:56
[SPEAKER_03]: The short films like I just mentioned, I just mentioned Toby.
50:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like I want to the mission initially for the uprising that works as like I said, change the perception of the trait.
51:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So we don't do that through this anthology series of Detroit history and then till, of course, after that till Detroit stories, but within that 30 episode timeline.
51:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And then with the short films, we're going to show more.
51:19
[SPEAKER_03]: lighter stories or colorful stories more stories built in reality.
51:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know I don't I don't the stuff that you see in the mace.
51:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't live that life.
51:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
51:28
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not the trait that I know.
51:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
51:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I know it exists.
51:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
51:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been there.
51:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be here foot to the ground 15 years by myself.
51:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't have no weird allegations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't nobody, no money.
51:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't none of that.
51:39
[SPEAKER_03]: My credit is clean.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:40
[SPEAKER_03]: So with that, I don't know what that looks like.
51:43
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to tell the other side
51:45
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my purpose now.
51:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where the steps that I'm taking is too.
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So would you ever go?
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you ever have your content on independent platforms like the tubi or Amazon?
51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
51:55
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where everybody is.
51:56
[SPEAKER_03]: So I got to put it there.
51:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I figured out I found our recently how much it costs to put it on tubi.
51:59
[SPEAKER_03]: So now that I know how much it costs, I stored in a part of the budget and it's going to be on there because that's where everybody is.
52:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Got you.
52:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, um, I meant to ask you this earlier, but it came back to me in terms of doing the production for some of the things that you do.
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say like a, sincerely, you're some things like that.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: How much does, how much would you say it costs in order to produce those things from where you're at now?
52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I want to know if you could give a low budget, no budget version of how people might be able to to start to point back to our earlier part of conversation.
52:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.
52:33
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a way to question.
52:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we're gonna break it down.
52:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You're saying
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[SPEAKER_03]: How much does it cost to produce what I do now?
52:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
52:40
[SPEAKER_03]: How much, okay, so the sex, that's to silly or sit, that's my basement.
52:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a corner in my basement.
52:45
[SPEAKER_03]: So you see that rack closed, you see all the books, you see all that stuff in the room basement.
52:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So all I gotta do, turn light on, turn camera on tripod, record it, get up, though I don't even look at it.
52:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you watch it back a lot of time?
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you do.
52:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I just put the little intro music on there at the beginning of the end and be like, all right, that's it.
53:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even, because if I watch it back, I'm probably gonna cut it out.
53:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, over thinking it.
53:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
53:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So it doesn't cost me enough for that without having to trade it's good other side of my basement.
53:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a whole set and I don't change it don't look like it looked like an actual set though.
53:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So those things don't cost me nothing in terms of type of projects that I need.
53:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can just do them whenever I feel like it and I don't have no hiccups.
53:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been my library as extensive now with all this good trade stuff that I'm doing.
53:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's to go on forever.
53:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I could do this until I check a body here.
53:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So and I think that that's great in terms of being able to keep your set up to a minimum and I'm not sure, well, could you give us the breakdown cameras mics like what you use in order to do that?
53:42
[SPEAKER_03]: What I use, I shoot with, I have a...
53:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It's literally just one light.
53:50
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a light LED bar, which is Emoryn LED bars the PT4C, which I think it might be like $200 or something like that.
53:56
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like four feet wide and want to see stand.
54:00
[SPEAKER_03]: And I shoot with an FX3 and with a Sigma 2470.
54:04
[SPEAKER_03]: And that the 2470 is my workhorse.
54:10
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my favorite.
54:11
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my bag.
54:12
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lens.
54:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, I mean, I got different mics and stuff like that, like boom mics and things like that, uh, but my set of when I was like that, it was literally like a Canon T3, which is a base model, you can go to Best Buy and buy one with a, um, a light from home depo that was literally a light book get a daytime light book or you can get a set of daytime light books and make sure just because they white the daytime was a white and then the, um, the hardware Africa they like they feel like metal.
54:44
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't dimmer anything.
54:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It's as often on.
54:47
[SPEAKER_03]: You can use those, but there's just white light.
54:49
[SPEAKER_03]: That was so close.
54:49
[SPEAKER_03]: You can get like full of them for like $20, including in the set of bulbs.
54:54
[SPEAKER_03]: And you got yourself a light set.
54:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you got to a phone.
54:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's I've done, I have it.
55:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I've done bare minimum.
55:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I'm a shot with myself on.
55:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no...
55:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I've done it all.
55:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You won't get the job done.
55:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I won't get it done.
55:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
55:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
55:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I love the this the feeling of executing an idea for show.
55:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For show.
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And so do you have, if we land a plane here, do you have any dream partnership, so folks that you might want to work with in the city beyond the city, anything like that.
55:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even mention that I plan on expanding to another city, too.
55:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, talk to you.
55:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, this year, I'm definitely expanding to another city.
55:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're moving, you leave?
55:34
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, not leaving.
55:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to plant the uprising flag there, too.
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
55:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Always being Detroit.
55:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I ain't going nowhere, but we're going to start creating in another Midwest city in wouldn't the weather break as well.
55:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So I definitely want to mention that, but back to your question.
55:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Any partnership?
55:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
55:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Dream partner shoots dream.
55:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love of course.
55:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the purple Ryan cool girl show I love I got a list of people.
56:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Hold on.
56:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna see I was prepared for it I was prepared for this.
56:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna go down a few names.
56:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so Kiki Palmer's number one Okay, I felt like Kiki Palmer can do it every she's like the cheat code.
56:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
56:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Then a guy, Tyler, creator, ESA Ray, Joe fresh goods, big ticker for rap, rap, city and the basement bro.
56:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to, I want to sit down with big ticker, I feel like I can do the quintessential interview for Big Tigger for sure.
56:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim Carrey, a sous-serve, the Battle Rapper.
56:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, black sure, uh, I'm not sure if you know who she is, she does like the long form documentary stuff on black history.
56:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
56:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and then there's a bunch of people on Instagram, like storm the bars, like a bunch of like, oh, the Russell.
56:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to work with a Russell for sure for sure.
56:46
[SPEAKER_03]: The Russell, Russell, he's definitely one of the people that inspired me for sure, but I got a bunch of names on my list.
56:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't.
56:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Barry, we're going to people tap in, if they want to work with you, they want to find your projects, they want to purchase a merch from you, how can they tap in with you, what's all your information and socials websites?
57:03
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... you can find everything on directly at the upper has not TV uh... it's just a landing page where you just find click on the shows you can find click on this shop it take you there or you can go directly with the upper has in shop literally what if it's on the it's on the site it's in stock so uh... it's no no drop shipping you got to wait uh... i know i i had a hiccup it's more uh... in the middle of the holiday season uh... but if we took care of that and i'm a
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but yeah, it uprises shop.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you can find me on socials that I'm usually on what you can find me like my resume is pretty much on yep rising dot TV on Instagram or Barry dot TV on Instagram.
57:42
[SPEAKER_01]: That that's what it find me bet Barry we appreciate you for.
57:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me on the platform today, man.
57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: This was this was great got a lot of free game and got some great moments.
57:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's great to have somebody who who definitely understands the game and had been able to use your powers for good So just be can and be able to give a lot to our city and then being able to tell our stories Especially for people in our community Appreciate it, man.
58:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
58:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a honor being all here.
58:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
58:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely anytime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't stress that enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you anytime, man Everybody watch and listen to make sure y'all tap with tapping with us on peace