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Reviewing crazy Wild Card win over Chargers | Jags Drive Time: Monday, January 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drive Time with John hoosherst and Brian
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Speaker 1: sex Thy sexty James Drive Time and starts right now
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Speaker 1: Who what's offing the gold buck Man top. We gotta
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Speaker 1: keep fighting to keep believe believes. Good morning and welcome
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Speaker 1: to Jags Drive Time on the Monday after the most
1:36
Speaker 1: improbable of winds. And what an energetic scene in the
1:40
Speaker 1: Jaguars locker room Bryan Sexton with John Ozier. You know, John,
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Speaker 1: the old thing missing from that video and we don't
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Speaker 1: have it because we didn't get it, is what the
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Speaker 1: locker room was like a halftime when the head so
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Speaker 1: the swing of the pendulum that would have been incredible
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Speaker 1: to be able to compare in contrast. Instead we're taking
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Speaker 1: stories from players talking about how the coaching staff responded.
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Speaker 1: Um Where to begin other than to say that my
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Speaker 1: favorite part of the whole weekend was Trevor Lawrence going
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Speaker 1: to the waffle house to to eat with Walker Little
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Speaker 1: and look like Logan Cook and a bunch of his
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Speaker 1: teammates in the early morning hours of Sunday. Well, and
2:22
Speaker 1: if that doesn't show you sort of what this team
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Speaker 1: is uh, how they're a part of this city, etcetera, etcetera. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and it was fantastic. I don't know how much more
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Speaker 1: there is to say, except the images spoke for themselves
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Speaker 1: on that. I do think. I don't know what the
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Speaker 1: locker room was like, but I spoke to Evan Ingram
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Speaker 1: probably three or four minutes into the open locker room
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Speaker 1: period the media, and I really didn't have a question.
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Speaker 1: I just kind of I just kind of looked at him.
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Speaker 1: I've gotten to know him a little bit, and I
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Speaker 1: just said, yeah, come on right, and he's said when
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Speaker 1: he caught the touchdown past the end of the first half,
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Speaker 1: he said, I told myself after that, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but but I'm I'm going to
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Speaker 1: do everything I can to win this game, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to quit. Whatever that word it is, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm getting at. And he talked for a while,
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Speaker 1: and it was interesting because it was one of those
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Speaker 1: cases where you couldn't really quote a guy because he
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Speaker 1: was just sort of talking about what he had just
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Speaker 1: been through and he said what he soon realized on
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Speaker 1: the sidelines, and then in the locker room he said,
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Speaker 1: Donna every everybody else I felt that way too, Like
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Speaker 1: he got that vibe and it was real. I mean
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Speaker 1: sometimes after after games, players are talking and you're not
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Speaker 1: sure if they're if they're really telling you something real,
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Speaker 1: he said, everybody, I thought the same thing, And then
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Speaker 1: Foyer brought them up during halftime, which they all talked about.
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Speaker 1: Trevor talked about it, and that sort of galvanized it.
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Speaker 1: He said. Every he said, even if we shouldn't have,
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Speaker 1: we believe we're gonna win the game, and he that's nuts.
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Speaker 1: Boyer said he's got a screw loose to think that.
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Speaker 1: He had one of the great lines of post game
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Speaker 1: on Saturday night when he said, I didn't like our odds,
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Speaker 1: but I liked our chances. And that's um, all that
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Speaker 1: stuff we're talking about. There's no reason down twenty seven, nothing,
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Speaker 1: you think you're gonna win the game, right, um, especially
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Speaker 1: in the emotion of the moment, like when you go
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Speaker 1: back and look at it, which I did yesterday, we
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Speaker 1: all did. There were things that made you think in retrospect, okay,
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Speaker 1: you know they had only given up a couple of
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Speaker 1: scoring drives and seventeen of the points were off a
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Speaker 1: thirty five yard drives because it's all point blank. So
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Speaker 1: the defense never played poorly. So you thought, okay, well,
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Speaker 1: looking back, you saw they had things to build on.
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Speaker 1: Trevor said he'd only throw in really one bad pass.
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Speaker 1: He was still seeing it. In retrospect, you see that
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Speaker 1: those are the things they could build on to win
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Speaker 1: that game. Um. But in the height of that moment,
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Speaker 1: for them to really think they were gonna win speaks
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Speaker 1: to the culture, speaks to what they've done, speaks to
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Speaker 1: all these things saying. And I'm not a big team
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Speaker 1: of destiny guy, Bryan, but how could you. When Patterson
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Speaker 1: kicked that field go, I thought to myself, even if
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Speaker 1: he shanks it, it's going to go in somehow, And
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Speaker 1: I don't think he would tell you. It's probably his
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Speaker 1: best kick. It squeezed in. But there was no way
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Speaker 1: that ball wasn't going through, you know, I mean those moments, Uh,
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Speaker 1: it was almost like the ball was willed through the uprights.
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell anything from from Riley's kick, but
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm getting at. There was no way
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Speaker 1: that was gonna be I was standing right there on
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Speaker 1: the field as it went through, and I felt the
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Speaker 1: exact same thing as he lined up. It was no
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Speaker 1: doubt let's get into big things because you talked about
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Speaker 1: it speaks to the culture, and it speaks to the
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Speaker 1: locker room. It also speaks to the coach and his
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Speaker 1: strategy in the second happened to look down to seven.
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't know what sort of strategy
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Speaker 1: you could possibly in employ to get back into a
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Speaker 1: game in which everything went wrong in the first half.
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Speaker 1: It didn't look as if it was possible for the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars to be able to stack things together and turn
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Speaker 1: it around in only thirty minutes. But the head coach
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Speaker 1: had a strategy. Strategy was just one play at a time,
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Speaker 1: you know. And and um, you know, we knew the
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Speaker 1: defense was starting the second half, so we felt like, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, defensively, we had to get off the field
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Speaker 1: at some point. We're trying to create you know, takeaways, turnovers,
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Speaker 1: things of that nature. And and if we could, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, offense just you know, had to just regroup
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Speaker 1: and and uh and score. And we talked about possibly
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Speaker 1: having to score every every time we touched the ball,
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Speaker 1: every possession in the second half, and and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: so that was the that was the strategy, big thing
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Speaker 1: to his team, his town. Hey, look, we talked about
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Speaker 1: the waffle house. There's no doubt this is Trevor Lawrenceville
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Speaker 1: this morning and will be for the foreseeable future. If
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Speaker 1: he had a zero point zero passer rating after that
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Speaker 1: third interception, and you're scratching your head wondering, how can
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Speaker 1: this talented quarterback, there's generational talent who has been so
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Speaker 1: good for so many weeks in a row. How does
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Speaker 1: he dig out of it? What can he do? We
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Speaker 1: were all of it at a loss, but ray Sean
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Speaker 1: Jenkins had an answer for us in the postgame locker room.
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Speaker 1: Man like did like for someone for him to go there?
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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have a good first time. I
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Speaker 1: don't just call it what it is. But man, if
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Speaker 1: we him to come back and stands home and really
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Speaker 1: lead this team back, man, that's crazy. I've never seen
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Speaker 1: it done before, Like not with my own I've never
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Speaker 1: seen that done before. Twenty seven zero in eight playoff game.
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Speaker 1: I guess a really talented team like that's something like
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Speaker 1: even don't remember forever and Big Thing three and you
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Speaker 1: all know this. You can't count this team out. Ever. Look,
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Speaker 1: we've seen a resilient Jaguars team since November began. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've chronicled for you the big deficits they faced against
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Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Ravens and the Cowboys, and they
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Speaker 1: just never stopped. This, though, was an extraordinary level of
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Speaker 1: resiliency in one of the most pressure packed environments you
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Speaker 1: could possibly imagine this football team. As John said, rallied
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Speaker 1: around Foyer. Loui Kunn, who explained it at the podium,
8:22
Speaker 1: I kind of like how we were talking about earlier.
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Speaker 1: We had a lot of close games this year. Um,
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Speaker 1: the Giants game I think maybe came back in the
8:29
Speaker 1: Ravens game, the Raiders game. We did those earlier. Um,
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Speaker 1: then that Detroit game happened, and we just knew the
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Speaker 1: kind of energy and fight we need to have for
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Speaker 1: four quarters. And we knew if we just brought well
8:39
Speaker 1: we're supposed to bring into the table anything as possible.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that Dallas game was cool to see, but
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Speaker 1: we had kind of learned our winning equation a little
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Speaker 1: bit earlier than that. Is just our accountability on doing that.
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Speaker 1: That's just kind of how we are as a team
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Speaker 1: right now. We just keep fighting all the way through,
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Speaker 1: no matter what's happening in the game. We're gonna put
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Speaker 1: ourselves and what we feel is the best chance to win.
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Speaker 1: And so let's go back to big thing too, and
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Speaker 1: you can get lost in it. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: whether people look at possession by possession, but you realize
9:04
Speaker 1: the Jaguars fall down twenty seven to nothing after the
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Speaker 1: ball goes off Chris Claybrook's head and you give him
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Speaker 1: a chip shot field goal. Right from that point on,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars scored on every possession Trevor in the next
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Speaker 1: four possessions, including that last one in the first half
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Speaker 1: through a touchdown pass on four consecutive possessions and led
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Speaker 1: them to the game winning field goal. I mean, resiliency
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Speaker 1: doesn't need to begin to describe mental toughness, doesn't need
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Speaker 1: to begin to describe how you handle the situation knowing
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Speaker 1: that you've got to get it done. His mental game
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Speaker 1: is as strong as his physical game. Well, and it's
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Speaker 1: my hot takes later on, so I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say everything about it, but uh, what I thought was
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Speaker 1: remarkable was down twenty seven nothing and he comes out
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Speaker 1: and has a good drive and gets them back in um.
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Speaker 1: But he got better and more in the zone if
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Speaker 1: you will, There's no question whatever was going on, he
10:04
Speaker 1: was thrown passes by the end that uh rival to
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Speaker 1: anything he has thrown. He had, and he's had some
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Speaker 1: good games down the stretch where he felt like he
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Speaker 1: couldn't miss. And when he gets into groove like that.
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Speaker 1: Somebody asked me yesterday, you know where does he rank?
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Speaker 1: Where is he compared to the quarterbacks in the league.
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Speaker 1: When he's in that groove, he's as good as anybody. Um. Now,
10:25
Speaker 1: he doesn't always get to that groove, which is why
10:27
Speaker 1: he's not Mahomes Burrow. You know, there's an elite level
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Speaker 1: that he's not there yet, but when he's there, you
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Speaker 1: can't stop that. I think in the second half though,
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Speaker 1: he was right. And here's why I say it. I
10:38
Speaker 1: watched Josh Allen, I watched Joe Burrow. Yeah, they didn't
10:43
Speaker 1: play better yesterday than he did. I mean, Alan had
10:46
Speaker 1: a couple of big turnovers and Burrow in particularly, who
10:49
Speaker 1: I've been telling people I think is the hottest quarterback
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Speaker 1: in the league right now, the guy you don't want
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Speaker 1: to face, that cold blooded assassin who just but he
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Speaker 1: wasn't that good last night. He was good enough, but
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Speaker 1: he didn't win that ball game for them. Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: won this one. I thought we saw the elite quarterback
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Speaker 1: come out. Yeah, no question. And I thought what was
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Speaker 1: impressive was as the game got bigger and closer and
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Speaker 1: the pressure increase, because seven there was no pressure none.
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Speaker 1: It was I would say, a gift. But there's a
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Speaker 1: feeling in games. You knew if they executed on that drive,
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Speaker 1: they're probably gonna get down to score. Where it got tougher,
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Speaker 1: he got better, and he made bigger throws, and he
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Speaker 1: made bigger plays, and his pois rose um that that
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Speaker 1: was impressive, next level of generational stuff. You know. Right
11:38
Speaker 1: before kickoff, I was standing on the deck there in
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Speaker 1: the West Club and the towels were twirling and they
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Speaker 1: had just done the national anthem, and I thought, my goodness,
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Speaker 1: what incredible environment and how hard it's going to be
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Speaker 1: for the Chargers. And do you know the thing that
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Speaker 1: the Chargers did so well as they took that away
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Speaker 1: in the first half, they had everybody standing there with
11:57
Speaker 1: a shocked expression on their face, wondering, okay. And then
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Speaker 1: the minute that the second half began and they stopped
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Speaker 1: the Chargers and forced them, you know, forced them off
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Speaker 1: the field and got Trevor back out on the field.
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Speaker 1: The towels were twirling again. Crowd hung in there when
12:14
Speaker 1: there was no reason for them too. That was resilient
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Speaker 1: and extraordinary in its own right. Yeah, that was I
12:20
Speaker 1: kept watching from the press box and even when they
12:23
Speaker 1: were getting you know, just killed in the first half,
12:28
Speaker 1: the crowd was stunned, but they were they were still there.
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Speaker 1: They weren't the swass of empty seats, and they were
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Speaker 1: waiting for the They're waiting for the moment. And I
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Speaker 1: very player would tell you the crowd twelfth Man all
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Speaker 1: that to say, whatever the crowd mattered the other night,
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Speaker 1: wedn't leave. Yeah, it didn't leave. In Fred Taylor and
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Speaker 1: I were watching from our spot in the West Club
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Speaker 1: and we're watching the ramps and there's there's a couple
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Speaker 1: of people that were leaving because it was cold and
12:55
Speaker 1: they were older. But the crowd stayed and they were
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Speaker 1: there in the post game and was remarkable. I think
13:03
Speaker 1: years from now, when we look back at at at
13:06
Speaker 1: Jacksonville and how it became the Green Bay of the South,
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Speaker 1: I think we'll look back at this game and say
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Speaker 1: this is where it all. And of course Trevor walking
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Speaker 1: into waffle house where it all came together these last
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Speaker 1: couple of I was made a point in the ozone
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Speaker 1: one of the last couple of days. This does I meant,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, but it's not as noticeable as what
13:29
Speaker 1: you're talking about. My guests is, in fifteen twenty years,
13:32
Speaker 1: whoever's doing our jobs, we'll get emails from Vans saying,
13:37
Speaker 1: you know, some fan in Omaha became a Jaguars fan
13:40
Speaker 1: this weekend because you're playing on Prime Time. You're watching
13:43
Speaker 1: a quarterback's seeing the overcome adversity, and you're like, holy,
13:47
Speaker 1: this is unbelievable, you know. So my guess is they
13:50
Speaker 1: gained some young fans who we won't hear from for
13:54
Speaker 1: ten years. And the teal is cool and different, and
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Speaker 1: it made this whole thing pop on TV. All right,
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Speaker 1: we'll take We've got some great highlights to run through
14:02
Speaker 1: when we come back to Jags Drive Time on a
14:05
Speaker 1: Monday morning, the Martin Luther King Holiday. I hope you're
14:08
Speaker 1: enjoying some downtime today and thanks for joining us, and
14:18
Speaker 1: welcome back to Jacks Drive Time. Let's go right to
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Speaker 1: the highlighting. We'll start with the low lights here is
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Speaker 1: a look at the first half or most of the
14:27
Speaker 1: first half through the eyes of Drevor Lawrence to spend
14:30
Speaker 1: a ton of money in free agency, and it's paid
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Speaker 1: off off the fake. That's not the way it's deflected,
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Speaker 1: and it's intercepted. Drew Trankle comes away with the ball
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Speaker 1: and the charges are the big early turnover fourth and seven.
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Speaker 1: It comes extra pressure. But the passes intercepted at the
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Speaker 1: twenty six yard line. It's a sante Samuel Lawrence. Again,
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Speaker 1: it's intercepted, and that's a s I think Samuel Learning
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Speaker 1: said in the pocket firish and that is going to
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Speaker 1: be thinking, yeah something, Samuel, What are they gonna say here?
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Speaker 1: You know, John um Sunday was the twenty three anniversary
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Speaker 1: of six seven, and I wrote in my quick thoughts,
15:21
Speaker 1: now you know how the Dolphins felt, right, everything went
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Speaker 1: wrong for them that day, and everything went wrong up
15:29
Speaker 1: to this point for the Jaguars in the first half
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Speaker 1: of that bowl game. Yeah, and just very quickly what
15:35
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, You never want to be rating interceptions
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Speaker 1: at halftime in terms of importance because that's not good.
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Speaker 1: But out of his four, the first two tip pass
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Speaker 1: was sort of a fluke. Uh. The second was clearly interference.
15:52
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not wanting to criticize refs, but they
15:54
Speaker 1: it was a tough night, and that one was clearly interference,
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Speaker 1: and it was fourth down. It wasn't a momentum killer.
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Speaker 1: And then even the fourth one was third and ten.
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Speaker 1: And if you're coaching, you don't hate third and ten
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Speaker 1: interceptions the way you do second and three interceptions. There's
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Speaker 1: a difference. And I'm not I'm not excusing him, but
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Speaker 1: what I give Trevor a lot of credit for again,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about poison the moment. He realized what I'm
16:23
Speaker 1: talking about very quickly and said in the post game
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Speaker 1: when he analyzed it quickly, he didn't feel like he
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Speaker 1: wasn't seeing the right things except for the one assante
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Speaker 1: where he cut underneath it. I think they were in zone.
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Speaker 1: He thought they were in man. It was a good play,
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Speaker 1: but he really only thought there was one bad pick there.
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Speaker 1: What's one thing for that to be true. It's another
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Speaker 1: thing for him to poise, respond to it and then
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Speaker 1: play better, which he did. Alright, So up to this point,
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Speaker 1: now Jack's down twenty seven nothing, Trevor was throwing the
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Speaker 1: ball all over the field. He was ten of twenty
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Speaker 1: four into that twenty seven nothing deficit, but then beginning
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Speaker 1: on that will drive of the half, he started an
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Speaker 1: eighteen of twenty three for two d and eleven yards
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Speaker 1: and four touchdown. String of brilliance that didn't end until
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Speaker 1: the ball game did. Let's take a look at the
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Speaker 1: first three of those touchdowns in the pocket bars and
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Speaker 1: then the talk in the touchsdown heat in in the backfield,
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Speaker 1: Lawrence looking on their pressure throws Winter and making the
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Speaker 1: catch on Lawrence protected well going open again, Sat Jones
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Speaker 1: should the touchdown. And so we get to the end
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Speaker 1: of the third quarter, and I think, look, you talked
17:42
Speaker 1: about the Ingram touchdown. It was a great play, and
17:44
Speaker 1: those two obviously have developed a lot of chemistry, but
17:47
Speaker 1: it's it's the Marvin Jones touchdown where Asante Samuel was
17:52
Speaker 1: on fire and on this particular play or they got
17:55
Speaker 1: him because they knew what he does. Marvin Jones broke
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Speaker 1: his ankles and he's a gambler, and uh, he he
18:04
Speaker 1: wanted the first han't lost in the second. And uh,
18:08
Speaker 1: with comebacks, I've covered a lot of comebacks because the
18:10
Speaker 1: cold teams that covered did these kind of things a
18:13
Speaker 1: lot um and somebody asked me after it was this
18:15
Speaker 1: grace coming back we've ever seen. Obviously, it's it's up
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Speaker 1: their importance and all that. But what was striking is
18:24
Speaker 1: they stayed calm in the moment and at no point
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Speaker 1: did they need a miracle to make it happen, if
18:31
Speaker 1: you follow me, because they kept scoring. And when you
18:35
Speaker 1: looked at the clock once they got the Marvin Jones
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Speaker 1: touchdown with five minutes to go in the game in
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Speaker 1: the third quarter. Uh, A lot of teams in these
18:43
Speaker 1: moments think they're running out of time more quickly than
18:45
Speaker 1: they are. I'm assuming that Doug Peterson did a fantastic
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Speaker 1: job on the sidelines of saying, there's time, just play it,
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Speaker 1: play it out, don't panic, make your plays, and you
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Speaker 1: can get back in it. And then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden it turned you got Za Jones and it's a game.
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Speaker 1: And there was a great shot of Doug on the
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Speaker 1: sideline when they got called for too much time and
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Speaker 1: he had to back up five yards and he's stay
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Speaker 1: just just steady, Eddie, you know, let's just keep doing
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Speaker 1: and that's everything in those moments, that's what he is.
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Speaker 1: That's all right. So let's take a look at the
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Speaker 1: fourth touchdown, because this is where the whole game turns,
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Speaker 1: not just Trevor finding Christian Kirk, but also Joey Bosa
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Speaker 1: losing his cool. Now, Lawrence fires and textown full start.
19:35
Speaker 1: I don't know we were talking. It's Joey Bosa throwing
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Speaker 1: his helmet, but too defense number, that's dr War electors
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Speaker 1: for two, triaple one, y'all gone for two, and Lawrence
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Speaker 1: reaches over on stories. I have a totally new perspective
20:02
Speaker 1: on that two point conversion, by the way, after after
20:04
Speaker 1: watching Tyler Huntley last night and what happened. No, not
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Speaker 1: nearly as easy as it looks. And of course Doug
20:11
Speaker 1: Peterson said in the early morning hours of Sunday, had
20:14
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa not drawn that foul and given them the
20:16
Speaker 1: ball closer to the line of scrimmage, he might not
20:19
Speaker 1: have gone for the win, which is what this was
20:21
Speaker 1: trying to set up the wind. I love the aggressive this, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I I uh. I made sure to ask Doug about
20:28
Speaker 1: that after the game in the presser, because in the
20:31
Speaker 1: press box everybody was sort of going nuts about this.
20:34
Speaker 1: Oh you can't do that, it's it's too much of
20:36
Speaker 1: a gamble. And I guess from listening to Doug and
20:41
Speaker 1: trying to understand what he is as a head coach
20:44
Speaker 1: for the past what nine, you know, eleven months now, Um,
20:50
Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as mostly got the penalty,
20:53
Speaker 1: I knew he would go. I shouldn't say I knew
20:56
Speaker 1: he might not have done it, But it didn't surprise
20:58
Speaker 1: me a bit because he believes in certain things, and
21:02
Speaker 1: he believes that when you get your advantages go so
21:05
Speaker 1: far up. When you get that it's a yard compared
21:08
Speaker 1: to two. I mean, you've got a six six quarterback.
21:11
Speaker 1: The odds are in your favorite. Now, it's not a
21:12
Speaker 1: guarantee it'll work, but over the course of time, if
21:16
Speaker 1: you run that kind of play with Trevor Lawrence from
21:18
Speaker 1: the one yard line hundred times, I think Doug believes
21:21
Speaker 1: you're gonna score ninety five of them. So that's how
21:22
Speaker 1: we're gonna play football around here, all right. So at
21:24
Speaker 1: this point it's all been about the offense, Trevor's troubles
21:27
Speaker 1: in the first half, then the brilliance that we've seen.
21:30
Speaker 1: But with left, the defense still had to find a
21:32
Speaker 1: way to stop Justin Herbert. And when Herbert had been
21:35
Speaker 1: on even though they were short fields. He was money
21:38
Speaker 1: in the first half in particular, So the defense, which
21:40
Speaker 1: had played well in the second half, had to play
21:43
Speaker 1: its best football in this final opportunity to try to
21:47
Speaker 1: get this come from behind when completed, and boy did
21:50
Speaker 1: they starting with Roy Robertson Harris. Why is five yard
21:53
Speaker 1: line Herbert under pressure? He'd get away sacked at the
22:01
Speaker 1: eighteen Royal Robertson Harris and b boy Roy Robertson Harris
22:08
Speaker 1: Manner just mammon has played some great football down down
22:12
Speaker 1: the stretch here for this football team going back put
22:15
Speaker 1: that game against the Jets, even the Cowboys, and he
22:17
Speaker 1: just doesn't get the credit that he deserves. But big
22:20
Speaker 1: powerful and sets everyone else up. Yeah, and you know
22:23
Speaker 1: the pass rush should take me out and throw me
22:27
Speaker 1: in the river. Because I've been saying for the last
22:28
Speaker 1: four or five weeks, I keep writing, not a great
22:30
Speaker 1: pass rush. Well, when the moments have been the biggest
22:36
Speaker 1: in the last month, it's been a great pass rush.
22:39
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say any single player is an all pro elite,
22:44
Speaker 1: but when quarterbacks dropped back to pass and clutch situations
22:47
Speaker 1: against this team right now, they are under pressure. They
22:50
Speaker 1: are disrupted. That's what pass rush is supposed to do.
22:53
Speaker 1: That first down play was mammoth because all of a sudden,
22:56
Speaker 1: the charges are behind the chain and they ended up
22:58
Speaker 1: going three and out and punting giving a ball back.
23:00
Speaker 1: Didn't everyone in the stadium just know what was coming
23:03
Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence. They got all the way into Chargers
23:08
Speaker 1: territory and faced fourth down and one. What a great call,
23:12
Speaker 1: what a great play design. This fourth down was three
23:16
Speaker 1: backs behind him to the outside E ten first down
23:22
Speaker 1: and it's Tom Moore. It season ball the call. Okay,
23:29
Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time, and I can
23:32
Speaker 1: take it half an hour talking about this play because
23:33
Speaker 1: it'll be you know, it's it's a rushmore play and
23:38
Speaker 1: franchise history right there with David Gerard's fourth down run
23:40
Speaker 1: to set up the game winner in Pittsburgh and oh seven.
23:42
Speaker 1: But think about this, Brian and I. It was crazy
23:45
Speaker 1: after the game, so I didn't get a chance to
23:47
Speaker 1: pull dug aside and talk about it. He calls time
23:50
Speaker 1: out because he doesn't like the formation. Then they go
23:54
Speaker 1: to a play. You know, I haven't gone back and
23:57
Speaker 1: watched every play of every game. I don't think they
24:00
Speaker 1: I don't think they've run that formation this that's the
24:01
Speaker 1: first time they run. So you're talking about putting Travis
24:05
Speaker 1: Eton on the left side of formation, which brings at
24:09
Speaker 1: least two extra Chargers defenders to that side. You said, okay,
24:13
Speaker 1: you put three backs in the backfield. Well, they had
24:16
Speaker 1: et n and two tight ends in the backfield, and
24:19
Speaker 1: you have the guts to run a sweep behind that
24:24
Speaker 1: designed to look like a sneak, and you don't run
24:29
Speaker 1: the sneak, which again you're banking. It was an incredible call.
24:33
Speaker 1: And think about the situation. You've got thirty seconds and
24:36
Speaker 1: then you tell your team, Okay, we're running this play
24:40
Speaker 1: that you haven't run yet this year in the biggest
24:42
Speaker 1: situation of the season, go do it special. Well, yeah,
24:48
Speaker 1: in a sense, you're pulling out a play. It was
24:51
Speaker 1: like magnitude for them. And this is even sort of
24:55
Speaker 1: bigger than Philly Special Philly Specials in the first half
24:57
Speaker 1: where if it if it doesn't work, okay, you you've
25:00
Speaker 1: got them pinned. Season is over if you don't hit
25:03
Speaker 1: that um. And by the way, Chris Man hurts and
25:05
Speaker 1: z Jones blocking Kyle van Noy and the safety that
25:08
Speaker 1: came up whose name I can't recall at the top
25:10
Speaker 1: of my head. And and that just sealed it for
25:12
Speaker 1: that What an amazing play. Here's the coaching element though,
25:15
Speaker 1: and everybody who reads me listens to me. I sort
25:19
Speaker 1: of mocked sometimes fans thinking coaching is is everything in
25:22
Speaker 1: the NFL. But at that moment two, you know, at
25:29
Speaker 1: some point you had to drill that play a couple
25:31
Speaker 1: of times this year, not knowing if you'd ever use it,
25:33
Speaker 1: and then knowing at that point, Okay, this one that
25:36
Speaker 1: we drilled. I'd love to know when when the last
25:38
Speaker 1: time they practiced for the formation was. Because we've never
25:41
Speaker 1: seen in the game. I I just again, out of
25:45
Speaker 1: all the moments in the game, once I started thinking
25:47
Speaker 1: about that, with ten seconds to go from the play
25:51
Speaker 1: clock until that team has run back out on the field,
25:54
Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, go with that one that we haven't
25:55
Speaker 1: seen all year, And here's the game winner and the
25:57
Speaker 1: moment that we talked about off the top of the show.
26:00
Speaker 1: Will I can set their sights likely on Kansas City.
26:03
Speaker 1: Here we go for the Lord and you see the
26:10
Speaker 1: ball starts sliding a little bit to the right. Yeah,
26:14
Speaker 1: And but there was no way that crowd's mind that
26:18
Speaker 1: thing that goes for help, and it did and gave
26:20
Speaker 1: us one of the most incredible moments. I think it's
26:24
Speaker 1: I have said it is the second right. The bigger
26:27
Speaker 1: win was in Denver after the nineties six season because
26:30
Speaker 1: it got them to the a f C Championship Game.
26:32
Speaker 1: But this one is clearly the biggest home win in
26:35
Speaker 1: franchise history and right there with the biggest of the
26:39
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Speaker 1: start with you John Well, Um, this was better for
27:19
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence than if he had been perfect. And for
27:23
Speaker 1: all the social media noise in the first half about
27:27
Speaker 1: how bad he was, how I was getting emails Brian saying, well,
27:31
Speaker 1: clearly we misjudged him. He's not good etcetera, etcetera. And
27:36
Speaker 1: it is good to show you never judge in the
27:38
Speaker 1: NFL based on a small example sample size. Um. But
27:45
Speaker 1: this is better for him in terms of how I
27:49
Speaker 1: feel about him as a player. Then if he had
27:52
Speaker 1: come out and had a perfect rating and been great
27:54
Speaker 1: from the start, because if he doesn't melt under that,
28:02
Speaker 1: he never will. Uh, And you were going I wrote
28:06
Speaker 1: this week I covered uh, Peyton Manning for four m
28:11
Speaker 1: v ps um and I also covered him in a
28:15
Speaker 1: ton of bad losses, a ton of bad starts, games
28:19
Speaker 1: he wished he had had back. UM point being, you
28:23
Speaker 1: are not going to play quarterback in this league and
28:26
Speaker 1: be perfect. I want to watch Tom Brady for four
28:28
Speaker 1: interceptions that six times in his career. Yeah, so you
28:31
Speaker 1: were going to have moments like Trevor Lawrence had in
28:34
Speaker 1: the first half. It's how you respond. And I don't
28:38
Speaker 1: know that any quarterback NFL history has ever responded to
28:40
Speaker 1: a start like that when they finished like that. I'm sure.
28:43
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is, but it's up there. I want
28:45
Speaker 1: to ask you about about Manning real quick, because it
28:47
Speaker 1: came to my mind. I remember because the Jaguars ended
28:49
Speaker 1: the season. Tom Coughlin's last game was in Indianapolis after
28:52
Speaker 1: the two thousand two seasons, and that that team, that
28:55
Speaker 1: Colts team went into New York for wild card game
28:58
Speaker 1: the next Sunday and their doors blown off forty one
29:01
Speaker 1: to nothing. That was Manning's fifth NFL season, and I
29:04
Speaker 1: think if you talk to a lot of people, they'd
29:05
Speaker 1: be stunned that in his fifth season he threw two
29:08
Speaker 1: interceptions that day and they were they couldn't do anything.
29:13
Speaker 1: That was Tony Dungee, that was Peyton Manning and they
29:17
Speaker 1: got their doors blown off. At that point he was
29:20
Speaker 1: owing three in the playoffs. People were questioning, and of
29:23
Speaker 1: course that started the run. The amusing thing was in
29:26
Speaker 1: the press box that day. They were prominent national writers
29:30
Speaker 1: telling me, Colts will never be any good. Many will
29:33
Speaker 1: never be any good until he stops doing all that
29:35
Speaker 1: junk at the line of scrimmage. And yet that was
29:36
Speaker 1: a junk that he did, and that again all that um,
29:40
Speaker 1: but point being, uh, it is how you respond because
29:46
Speaker 1: this league is too hard to play perfectly all the time.
29:49
Speaker 1: The fact that he responded like that, Um, that's a
29:52
Speaker 1: mental toughness chip. That guy's not every quarterback ask no no,
29:58
Speaker 1: And that brings me to my hot tache, which is
30:00
Speaker 1: not every coach can do this right. Brandon Staley may
30:04
Speaker 1: or may not be a long term or a good
30:06
Speaker 1: NFL head coach. But when I look at at the
30:09
Speaker 1: contrast between Doug Peterson, who has done it, and Brandon Staley,
30:14
Speaker 1: who was doing it for the first time, you have
30:17
Speaker 1: to question his decision in Denver to keep playing his
30:20
Speaker 1: starters into the third and fourth quarter. Doug knew right
30:23
Speaker 1: now he had a lead, but he knew to get
30:25
Speaker 1: his guys out in the second half. In Houston, he
30:26
Speaker 1: could very easily been criticized if anybody had gotten dinged
30:30
Speaker 1: up to the point that they couldn't have played the
30:31
Speaker 1: next week in that important game against the Titans. He knew.
30:34
Speaker 1: Staley obviously didn't know. And then here last week, they
30:38
Speaker 1: ran the ball eight times in the second half, John,
30:40
Speaker 1: they were up twenty point, they could have made it
30:44
Speaker 1: much more difficult for the Jaguars to have enough time. Right,
30:48
Speaker 1: you're down twenty points with thirty minutes to play. Hey,
30:51
Speaker 1: that calculus doesn't work out very often, and yet Staley
30:55
Speaker 1: so often. And I'm watching the television broadcast at the
30:58
Speaker 1: same time that I'm looking at the field and I
31:00
Speaker 1: looking at a guy who clearly didn't have the confidence
31:04
Speaker 1: level of what was going on around him that Doug
31:07
Speaker 1: Peterson did. So not every guy can be a head
31:09
Speaker 1: coach and and play like this, and it speaks to
31:15
Speaker 1: what a higher shot made. Again, we don't know everything
31:22
Speaker 1: that goes on in the sidelines, but I know in
31:24
Speaker 1: that situation the calmness of Doug Peterson h was a
31:30
Speaker 1: huge had to have been a huge factor in this
31:33
Speaker 1: team's poison. Really to come back. Um, they've been in
31:37
Speaker 1: the last five games at home, they've trailed by accumulative
31:40
Speaker 1: eight points seventeen, seventeen, nine, ten, and twenty seven. Come
31:44
Speaker 1: back and want all of them. You don't do that
31:48
Speaker 1: if if your head coach is panicking on the side.
31:51
Speaker 1: And I bring this up right, not to to hit
31:53
Speaker 1: on stately because I like the guy. I enjoyed listening
31:56
Speaker 1: to him last week and I think maybe he has
31:58
Speaker 1: some ability to be a head coach, but to simply
32:00
Speaker 1: point out that Doug Peterson is the guy, and what
32:04
Speaker 1: an advantage the Jaguars had on Saturday night to have
32:07
Speaker 1: Doug on their sidelines. Now this week the advantage is
32:10
Speaker 1: negated because you've got the master on the other side.
32:13
Speaker 1: So this week will be an interesting storyline. But to
32:16
Speaker 1: have Doug going up against Andy Reid gives him a
32:19
Speaker 1: great opportunity gradually thanking the gatest uh tise advantage to Peterson.
32:26
Speaker 1: You're starting to talk about a impressive playoff record. I
32:30
Speaker 1: mean again, we could go on and on about Doug
32:32
Speaker 1: fantastic tub. All right, we'll take a break and come
32:34
Speaker 1: back and wrap the show up. Before we do, though,
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32:54
Speaker 1: is Roy Robertson Harris for his four tackle, five pressure
32:58
Speaker 1: sack performance. He was so incredibly good and made an
33:03
Speaker 1: incredible difference on Saturday night when the game was on
33:06
Speaker 1: the line. Thanks to j e A and congratulations to
33:09
Speaker 1: Roy Robertson. Here's We'll take a break, come back and
33:11
Speaker 1: wrap up the show after this. I know we've been
33:18
Speaker 1: in that situation before. Not that many points, but you know,
33:20
Speaker 1: similar situations. So that's the thing, I mean, just the
33:23
Speaker 1: belief in this team. It's kind of I mean, it's
33:26
Speaker 1: really cool to see what what can happen when when
33:28
Speaker 1: everybody believes and you know, I wouldn't have been able
33:30
Speaker 1: to do what I did today and what the offense
33:32
Speaker 1: was able to do in the second half to bounce back.
33:34
Speaker 1: Also the defense, if we didn't believe in one another.
33:37
Speaker 1: Um that was you know, through four picks in the
33:39
Speaker 1: first half, and those guys beside me on offense and
33:42
Speaker 1: the guys on the other side of the ball didn't
33:44
Speaker 1: never lose faith in me. And that's that's that's one
33:45
Speaker 1: thing that makes it easier when you know you've got
33:47
Speaker 1: guys that believe in you no matter what the circumstances are. Well,
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Speaker 1: uh the knock on Trevor Lawrence as well, he's never
34:13
Speaker 1: had a fourth quarter comeback. Okay, well check that box.
34:19
Speaker 1: You know, one thing it's going to be interesting is
34:21
Speaker 1: you are going to see this home crowd get used
34:24
Speaker 1: to the fact that they're never out of it. Right.
34:27
Speaker 1: You will see people stay in the seats. You will
34:29
Speaker 1: see people come to the game's expecting to win, which
34:32
Speaker 1: we haven't had around here in a long time. It's
34:35
Speaker 1: it's not hyperbole to suggest that this was a moment, right,
34:38
Speaker 1: a moment where everything can turn. I saw someone on
34:41
Speaker 1: sports illustrator Think connor or wrote this morning that Jacksonville
34:45
Speaker 1: took that step towards something different. Yeah, completely different. Yeah,
34:50
Speaker 1: I don't know in a national perspective. Yeah, and a
34:54
Speaker 1: two straight primetime games where you have had incredible finished
34:59
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's remarkably a part of the only
35:02
Speaker 1: comparison to franchise history is ninety six and maybe it's
35:05
Speaker 1: time to stop comparing it because it's it's its own thing. Uh,
35:09
Speaker 1: but the last five home games have been remarkable. I've
35:13
Speaker 1: never seen five straight games like that where you sort
35:17
Speaker 1: of started. If you think about it, the Raiders victories
35:20
Speaker 1: seemed like sort of a one off. Okay, well they're
35:23
Speaker 1: still we three and whatever they were to now where
35:27
Speaker 1: you look back on the whole thing as a trend
35:29
Speaker 1: of this team is never out of it. The defining
35:31
Speaker 1: trade of this team is not necessarily defense offense, even Trevor.
35:35
Speaker 1: It's this ability to overcome adversity and continue to believe
35:40
Speaker 1: in itself. It's amazing. There were three and six after
35:43
Speaker 1: the win over the Raiders, and they went to Kansas
35:45
Speaker 1: City the next week, and we're beating seventeen and since
35:49
Speaker 1: then or seven and one. I just want one more
35:51
Speaker 1: thing on because we can keep going on it, and
35:53
Speaker 1: we probably will at some point. I remember getting on
35:55
Speaker 1: the charter and flying out to Denver and and people
35:58
Speaker 1: forget that that Denver Broncos team was probably gonna be
36:00
Speaker 1: the first team to win three Super Bowls in a row.
36:02
Speaker 1: They were that good with Terrell Davis and Shannon Sharpe
36:06
Speaker 1: and Ed McCaffrey and Rod Smith and of course John
36:08
Speaker 1: Elway and a great loaded defense. And the Jaguars went
36:11
Speaker 1: out there and fell down twelve to nothing. But I
36:13
Speaker 1: remember on the charter thinking, how's this gonna match up,
36:15
Speaker 1: How they're gonna stop this, how they're gonna stop that?
36:17
Speaker 1: And and you have the same thoughts this week. How
36:19
Speaker 1: do you hand them homes? How do you handle Chris
36:21
Speaker 1: Jones and we'll talk about that on Wednesday and Thursday. Um,
36:24
Speaker 1: they fell down in the game twelve to nothing and
36:26
Speaker 1: they want and that's the biggest win in franchise history.
36:29
Speaker 1: So before you start thinking about what's possible or what's
36:33
Speaker 1: not possible, how are they gonna do it? Just no,
36:35
Speaker 1: it's been done, so we'll see. Well, I think the
36:37
Speaker 1: big thing Doug will tell this team on Wednesday some
36:40
Speaker 1: way this week you lost out there seventeen and I
36:44
Speaker 1: lost the turnover of battle three h there you go
36:47
Speaker 1: lost to talk about John Osan appreciate you. That'll do
36:50
Speaker 1: it for Jags Drive time on Monday. We're back on Wednesday,
36:54
Speaker 1: Jaguars Chiefs four thirty on NBC on Saturday afternoon, and
36:59
Speaker 1: we'll see on Wednesday. Everybody