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Living Fearlessly with Lisa McDonald · Authentic Living

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Welcome to Authentic Living with Roxanne.
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I'm Global Voice Radio.
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Join Roxanne Dornhard and her thought provoking conversation, the catalyst to live your life to
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the fullest.
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Hi, everyone.
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It's, Roxanne for a call.
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Roseanne, I'm so happy that you couldn't get again, on, I think for my 9th podcast, and have
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a very special meeting here today.
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Lisa McDonald, Lisa and I have known each other.
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I think it wrote about a year ago.
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Lisa, I was
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on.
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And, how good time then and recognize how much affinity or or alignment we had.
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And when I decided to start my podcast, I thought, oh my goodness, maybe she'll be, you
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know, research to come on.
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So she's, allowed herself that time to come on with me today.
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And I'm gonna tell you a little bit about Lisa and, Welcome, Lisa.
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Well, thank you very much Roxanne.
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Such an honor and a privilege to not only be invited here on your show.
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So this is a nice, turn of the tables here, a nice treat for me.
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But because I did really love our synergy, and I love your energy, and I love empowered women,
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you know, I could talk about the stuff we love to talk about at nauseam.
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So thank you.
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So I'm gonna do a bit with your bio and, you know, I often say I say a bit about your bio I
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want you to fill in.
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You're the best one to kinda tell the audience what's what they should really know about you
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to get to know about you.
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So you, Lisa has been empowering business owners, individuals, and entrepreneurs to
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transform their lives and achieve their goals and turn their dreams into realities by walking
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and talking and approaching life with love and work with fearless, gratitude, enthusiasm, and
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hope.
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Wow.
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I love that.
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Right?
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Just just so hopeful.
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And, she has a a suite of services, coaching, mentoring, and her top related podcasts, which
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we wanna talk a lot about today and online TV show.
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She's virus people to do their best every single day, which I think we all struggle with,
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Lisa.
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She's an example and, for everyone out there, she empowers and invigorates people that she
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speak to.
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And I've been in her presence, and I've experienced it.
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So definitely, something we're gonna enjoy today.
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She prove she proves that moving away from fear, anxiety, and overwhelm, even the newest
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online entrepreneurs can generate exciting momentum as they move closer to building a life
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and business they love.
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I like that.
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So thanks again, like I said it.
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And today, and I know you and I, when we had, it was on your show, we just talked that we had
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fun.
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So I, Fear is something that I often see daily when I, you know, speak or, whether I see a
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client or I coach And it's something that I think it's real.
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What we know is that it's real, except there's real fear where I'm gonna, you know, be really
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hurt and fear that really cripples us from taking those steps because, daily, most of us
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get fearful of things that are out of our realm.
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So I want you to talk because that's your brand living fearlessly with Lisa.
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So I want you to talk a little bit about that and kind of what got you connected with that,
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and then turn kinda how that translates out to what you do daily with all the things that you
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do out out in the world.
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Well, thank you very much.
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I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about.
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Not it's it's my brand, but it's really how I choose to live my life.
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And, you know, it it's really the message that I impart.
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I use all my platforms, my global platforms, smaller circles, speaking, reading, blogging,
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any opportunity I have to impart my message of living fearlessly to the masses because people
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do become crippled by this.
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You know, at different stages, of my life.
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I'm not gonna deny that, yeah, there's been fear.
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There's been you know, how am I gonna overcome this?
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Because, you know, especially as we get older, as you know, Roxanne and from the clients that
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you meet on a regular basis, you know, life throws us all kinds of unforeseen
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circumstances, and we're always faced with the choice Am I gonna succumb to this?
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Am I gonna succumb to victimology?
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Or am I going to learn whatever the lesson might be in the and there's a lesson with
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everything in life, not just the great stuff, raw, raw, raw, you know, kudos, accolades,
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accomplishments, goals being achieved, it's more so the true testament of of what you're
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made of, in terms of grit, gumption, owning your own power because I'm here to uplift
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people to fear less and to live more.
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It's really going, okay.
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I've gotta figure some things out here.
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You know, I'm I'm none of us come out unscathed.
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You know, we're all afflicted by different things.
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Much of which again, as we get older are things that are foreseeably out of our control, but
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are inevitable.
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You know, as we get older, our parents get older, you know, we know that people are
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getting diagnosed with cancer much younger.
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We know all kinds of things in terms of global warming.
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You know, the world has seen all kinds of catastrophes in tonomies and hurricanes and
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floods.
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I mean, there's just, you know, and then, and then just what's happening in the political
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arena in the states, you know, there's a lot of things but it it's our choice what we choose to
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tap into.
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I don't, you know, I know enough about global affairs.
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I know what's going on in the world.
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But that's not the stuff that my mind needs.
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I mean, I'm really consumed and obsessed with mindset.
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And so anybody who I showcase on radio, oftentimes I will say, you know, particularly
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for them to be at the level of success in which they are.
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And of course, we all define success very differently, very uniquely, very individually.
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But successful people in general, they have a set of rituals.
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They have a set of mantra They have a set of proclamations.
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They have, a regimen, a daily regimen that has become habit forming that similar if you
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parallel it to somebody who is an avid runner, if they don't run their ten miles a day, they
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feel physically sick.
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Their equilibrium's off, their mood's off, their demeanor's off, everything's off.
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And so when you when you take fierce action in your own life.
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And again, for me, it's about self discipline, you know, motivation on its own, you know, and
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I've listened to some really interesting people who talk very specifically about the subject of
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motivation, and there's always different schools of thought for anything that I I choose
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to sponge up.
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And, you know, motivation on its own, nobody feels motivated to get out of bed.
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Nobody feels motivated to deal and and face head on tragedy.
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There's no motivation in breaking a bad habit that doesn't serve you.
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But if you want different results in your life, if you wanna be around people who are going to
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equal to you operate at their highest vibrational level, people who perhaps whatever
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it is that you aspire to do or endeavor to do, you know, look at the people who have already
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done it and have done it successfully.
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These are the people who you need to align yourself.
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With.
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And when you get exceptionally clear within yourself, because I don't think anything
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birthed.
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I don't think anything can be birthed unless you are exceptionally clear.
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And the things that you fundamentally need to get clear on before you can accomplish goals,
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before you can up your game or take your life to the next level and and just, like, go off on
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that trajectory of boom, you know, I accomplished it.
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And it might not be like a a 2 week goal It may not even be a 1 year goal.
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It could be a 5 had 5 year goals.
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I've had long term goals, and I just envisioned it.
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You know, I'm very much about blueprinting and road mapping things and seeing it, seeing it
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like it's already there.
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It's already been accomplished, you just need in physical real time through doing the hard
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work, putting one foot in front of the other, taking massive action, honing your mindset, you
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will eventually catch up.
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You can't have self discipline.
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You can't have fierce tenacity and fortitude and commitment.
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And great mentors, which I always encourage, you know, get good mentors, you know, be around
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the good people who are going to keep you on the straight narrow, who are gonna be plugged
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into your journey, you know, rather than watching the news, listen to the inspirational
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YouTube videos.
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So Tony Robbins the Oprah Winfrey's, the Mel Brown's, the Les Brown's.
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I mean, there's there's so many influential people out there who have all, if you look at
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their backstory, they didn't just become an overnight success.
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They didn't just become like, wow.
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Like, they radiate permit all this, like, ooze ooze out of their pores, this wonderful aura,
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generally speaking, nine times out of 10, if not ten times out of 10, anybody who has risen
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in the ranks, who's really honed it and become masterful with their own mindset, they've
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become very good at turning shit into gold.
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You know, they've gotten really good at not surrendering or succumbing to the victimology.
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They've looked at their life lesson and, and have known, even if you wanna look at it from a
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statistical standpoint, I am not the only one who's endured this in my life.
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Whether it be a byproduct of divorce, whether it be disease, whether it be death of a spouse,
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whether it be death of a child, whether it be a bankruptcy, a divorce, whatever the case may
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be.
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We've all been afflicted by things.
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So it's looking at that and going, okay.
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I'm going to use this to serve myself, to prop myself, to anchor myself, and I'm gonna lift
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people along the way because I know I'm not the only one.
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So for me, it's about be your own hero, be your own Shiro, be your own leader, and be your own
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best friend.
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And particularly when you're entrepreneurial, particularly if you're in my case, and there's
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many of us out there who are.
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I'm a serial solopreneur slash single parent.
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So I've chosen to wear as many hats as what I do because I'm in passion by many things.
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You know, podcasting radio being one of them, interfacing with lovely people like you who,
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you know, emit so much fantastic energy So it's this reciprocal dynamic that, you know, you're
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feeding my soul.
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I'm feeding your soul.
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We're talking about the things that in both of our lives truly matter.
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Which is going to elevate our own game, which is gonna make you go back to your clients and
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perhaps offer a nugget that I've said and vice versa that lends a different perspective.
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Oftentimes people in our industry, as you know, Roxanne, we say a lot of the similar things We
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say a lot of similar things because we're aligned with each other.
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We believe the same things philosophically.
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We're aspiring to that level of of personal best all the time and knowing it's not about
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being in competition with other people.
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It's about being the best most improved version of ourselves each and every day And so
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oftentimes, radio guests who have plugged into my show, the feedback, the lovely feedback, and
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the testimonials I've received is you know, you and your particular guest on your show today,
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I've heard that said so many different times, but it was the way in which it was expressed It
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was the parallels of the example that was illustrated by your guest.
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Something went on today.
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Something clicked, and it resonated with me.
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And it didn't matter how many times beforehand.
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I'd heard something said quite similar.
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So thank you for that.
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So you just, you know, it's life altering stuff.
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We're we're we're shifting people because we've chosen to shift ourselves.
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And it yeah.
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Absolutely.
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And I think, you know, what happens is so, you know, I want your I want your kind of take on
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this.
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A lot of people see, you know, see you or they see me and they think, oh, you know, these
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women have been full, you know, what do you know about not getting out of bed, or what do
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you know about not taking care of your kids?
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Right?
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Sometimes, you know, hear people say that.
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So tell me about some of the rituals that you do daily to kind of, you know, and I mean,
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you've obviously been doing it for a long time.
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And so have I, of course, we've both been through things.
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I know you've been through stuff, and I know in my book, I I share openly about what I've been
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through.
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Tell me what kind of rituals you do when when you start it.
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Right.
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Well, I think my journey of self discipline, and I've I've cited this before.
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Long story short, I used to be a competitive swimmer.
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So I had a really vigorous, rigorous regimen that, spanned many years.
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It was you know, training was 6 days a week, twice a day, and I was in an individual sport.
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So it was me and the pace clock.
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It was me trying to shave time off my time to obtain my best times.
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It was me trying to improve upon my personal stroke It was me trying to get up in the ranks
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so that I could qualify for higher levels of competition.
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So, you know, when you're getting up as a young kid before school starts and you're work you're
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training on weekends, you're training after school before school, which, of course, you
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have a very, fierce workout regimen, not just in the pool, but in preparation for being in
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the pool, diet, exercise, everything.
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You know, so I I knew what it was because of what my goal was to make the choice to elect
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not to be the social kid.
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I did not go to all the parties.
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I did not go to all the play dates.
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I did not go to all these things, but I knew that in order for me to stay focused on what
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was pivotally most profoundly important for me at that juncture in my life, of course, you
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have to sacrifice things.
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And I I was quite willing to forego the other things to stay true to my passion of swimming.
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And, so the discipline I've learned from that, and of course, my coaches were taught year
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coaches.
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So they were mentors.
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I was introduced to mentorship at a very young age, because of certain things that I had
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grappled with in my life, circumstances that had happened in my life.
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I mean, let's face it.
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I'm a divorced woman.
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I'm a single parent.
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I'm an incest survivor.
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I've been on my own since 16.
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I've paid my own way cash through college university, which came from working, choosing
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to work 2 to 3 day, jobs at the same time, to pay for my own tuition, to pay for my own
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books, to pay for my own transportation, and everything else that goes with, you know, basic
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needs being met.
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While doing a placement and working in the field before I even officially graduated.
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So I I always knew what it was to hold, the role and the title and the responsibility of
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many things and learning how to juggle.
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So I wound up in social services, no coincidences because of some of the things
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that, transpired in my life.
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And rather than feeling sorry for myself rather than thinking, okay, this could only have
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happened to me, and being on my own at sixteen years old.
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And, yes, I'd gone off the rails at one point because I didn't have guidance.
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I didn't have therapy.
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I didn't have anything.
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There was nobody guiding me through this.
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So as a result of doing a co op placement that led to realizing that in the post secondary
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world, in the vocation world, Wow.
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You know, I don't have to commit to something that's science based.
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I don't have to commit to something that's math based.
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I got into social services as a result of doing a placement in the C and IB, the Canadian
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institute for the Blind and the Social Work department.
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And then I started applying for programs outside of that, and I got accepted into
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everything I applied to, and I college first, and I did university second.
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So, again, the the self disciplined I learned and adopted, and it became habit forming as a
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competitive swimmer, got integrated into every aspect of my life going forward, especially
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knowing I had to be financially self sufficient.
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I had to make sure that I got myself to classes that tuition was paid every, every semester it
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needed to be paid for.
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And I couldn't use the excuse of, well, I'm so busy, and I'm I'm a student.
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I'm a full time student.
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Well, I still gotta commit to doing shifts.
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You know, I was work I was doing all kinds of shifts.
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I was doing overnight shifts.
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I was working with kids in group homes and foster homes at the time.
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And then once I actually got into the field, I scaled very quickly and became the highest
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position I left prior to departing social services and and choosing to become a stay at
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home, and then eventually single mom, with director of women's shelters.
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So women and children fleeing domestic violence.
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And that's when I lived out west, and I did have managerial experience here in Ontario.
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And as a result of my divorce, I brought my kids who were then three eighteen months old
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who were born in Alberta transplanted myself back in Dundas where I live.
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Did it with minimal infrastructure of family support, but certainly had more than what I had
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out west.
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And, and I I was catapulted into single parenthood very quickly, as a result of my ex
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husband, who was also a careerist.
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He was an engineer, and in order to expedite us getting back here, to Ontario.
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He took a job with the sister company of where he was working at West, which placed him on a 3
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year contract in Madagascar Africa.
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And it was 6 weeks out 10 days back.
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So again, fortunately for me, having always been comfortable in my own skin and always
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feeling like I was a leader in my own life, I thought I can do this.
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You know, I've been on my own since teen.
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I've been paying my own bills.
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I've been making my own decisions with very little guidance outside of me later in life
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seeking out specific mentors for myself.
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And aligning with yummy people such as yourself Roxanne.
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But you know what?
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You just you just you gotta do it.
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You just, you know, you you just gotta step into it.
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And I really believe, you know, regardless of religious beliefs or spiritual beliefs, and I'm
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very much a spiritual person, You know, I don't know what is on the other side.
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I have to be focused on the here and now.
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And in the tangible sense of what I understand life to be, and having attended enough funerals
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to know, okay, somebody's physical body is no longer here, regardless of what happens with
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their spirit, I've got one crack at this, and I, I do care about things like legacy.
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I've got a son and daughter.
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I wanna leave things behind.
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So it's it what I hear, vitally important is, and and, I mean, you've been through trauma.
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And what we know what trauma is, Trump is like the heavy blanket that, you know, weighs you
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down.
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So you have to do something different with it on a continual basis.
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Because what we know at 60,000 thoughts a day,
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you know, when
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people say to you, I don't have a negative thought.
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I I don't I don't think they're telling you the truth.
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It's not the truth.
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Yeah.
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It's you do with it, often enough and rituals, like, you know, so, like, don't, you know,
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oftentimes with some of my clients, they would go get up and watch the news.
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And, and then, of course, what's on the news?
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You know, it's everything horrible in the world.
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They're not talking about, you know, nice stories or, or, or flowers or things all over
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the world that are beautiful and precious, and then we wane and we wane and we wane.
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And then that further reinforces that concept.
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You see the world's a bad place.
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And then when you get into that trajectory of, here we go again, that's another validating
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factor And then before you know it, you maybe haven't gotten out your pajamas, and then you
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maybe haven't left the house, or you maybe haven't brushed your hair kind of thing.
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And then it it kind of fosters that whole for me kind of syndrome.
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So I'm not saying that trauma survivors don't they've been they've been through horrible
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things.
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As we could see in the world like you said, like yourself is a perfect exam, myself being
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being go through stuff as a child, you know, you know, where I saw uncertainty, it's really
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about what you do with what you have at the end of the day because you are not defined by your
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past.
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No.
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You are
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all you have is right here right now.
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And if you're rappel back to the past, which or brain does to protect us naturally or repelled
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into the future, which is fear, then you're constantly in that state.
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Of angst versus just being present.
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And when you say that, it becomes like a concept, but really, that's what you're talking
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about.
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It's about feeling your, you know, feeling your blood pumping, you know, talking to yourself
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better, being kind, being gentle, and giving yourself that self love, that oftentimes, maybe
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a lot of people didn't really receive or maybe didn't receive the ideal kind of situation
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going up, which takes a lot of repetition
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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And and I didn't really quite fully answer your initial question there.
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So terms of what my rituals are, and this is what I impart and share with my mentoring
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clients as well.
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Cause if it works for me and they sought me out as a result of what they see manifesting in my
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own life.
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Of course, I'm gonna share that.
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It's important that we share the wealth.
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So for me, 3 hours before I go to bed every night, I fall asleep to, inspirational, YouTube
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videos.
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So, you know, Les Brown, Tony Robbins, over win free.
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And I I pick the ones that are at least a couple of hours long.
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And if it means I have to then pick another one, but 3 hours typically.
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So I fall asleep to this, and this is what my DNA, my electrons soaks up, because as you
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said, and you raised a very valid point, I am a very positive person.
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But, yes, negative thoughts will filter through, but I recalibrate very quickly because
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I'm conscious enough to know that that's what's happening, and I don't give myself permission
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to stay stuck in that.
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I don't give myself permission to turn that over and let that to find my day or my mood or
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my interaction or my exchange with somebody, I take massive responsibility for switching my
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thoughts and getting myself back on the path that serves me.
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So I listen to, like I said, I that's my ritual going to bed.
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I write my goals every day.
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And, yes, some of them that are already been written out, that are, like, longer term plan
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goals, if if I've done something incrementally along the way, that makes maybe originally a 5
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year goal, still taking massive action on the long term goals.
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And I'm making the phone calls, and I'm putting in the leg work, and I'm doing the research
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then perhaps through my good habit, my habits, and my self discipline, my five year goal then
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becomes reduced to a three and a half year goal.
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But it doesn't mean that I'm negligent with the day to day goals, the weekly goals, the monthly
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goals, because for people like you and I who are banging out content all the time, whether
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it be as bloggers, knowing that we have to do prep work, and be effective with our time to,
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you know, meet the needs of what our clients who seek us out for and are entrusting their
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mindset and their heart, their soul, their spirit, their healing journey, and they're
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paying for it.
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So, I mean, I, you know, the more my roster goes up, the more people I have to do some
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background work on, yet still meet the deadlines for my blogging for Ariana
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Huffington, my weekly gas knowing that we're pretty savvy.
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My team and I with the ramping up and the marketing of each guest.
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So we do it on the Monday.
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We do it on the Friday.
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The morning before I quickly go live because I'm monetized now.
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So they're paying me money, good money to ensure that our graphics are good, the
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consistency of when we're ramped them up, where we're ramping them up, cross promoting is
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taking place.
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I'm still although I've got 2 sponsors right now, I'm looking for a total of 5.
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Sponsorship and ad sponsors takes a long time.
24:31
So I'm doing that as well behind the scenes.
24:34
I'm raising 2 children and doing as much as I can in between school hours, waking hours.
24:40
So I have to be very committed to how I'm properly and effectively making every minute of
24:47
every day count.
24:48
And then, of course, when they're with their dad every other weekend, it's work.
24:52
That's work.
24:53
That's an entrepreneur.
24:54
There's no 9 to 5.
24:55
There's no clocking out.
24:56
No complaining.
24:57
I'd much rather be a slave to myself than someone else.
25:01
So, you know, and, and it's it's it's served me well in terms of things like sick days, stat
25:07
holidays, Christmas holidays, March break, you know, I can't imagine for all the time that the
25:13
kids have been off school, whether it be because of the stat holiday calendar or because
25:17
of illness, you know, if I had ever returned to the level of management that I was at, I
25:22
wouldn't have been able to been effective leader because it would have been me calling in
25:26
all the time to be the provider and the caregiver for my children.
25:29
So, you know, you gotta and, of course, it was risky when I went through that reinvention
25:33
process, you know, I'd I embarked upon becoming an entrepreneur when my mom died, when my
25:41
grandma died, when I was, legally separated, legally separated, then turning into a divorce.
25:47
My ex husband being in Madagascar Africa, Yeah.
25:52
So, you know, some people would go, like, why are you such a glutton for punishment?
25:55
Why when you're already going through an exorbitant amount of stress, and crisis, would
26:00
you then decide to embark upon becoming an entrepreneur knowing what that entails and
26:04
what's required if you're going to pull that off and be successful at it?
26:08
It's like, well, because I have to garner an income.
26:10
I, you know, and, I mean, the lawyers would have been quite fine.
26:14
Had I gotten a part time job pouring coffee at Tim Hortton just to say that I was
26:18
contributing, and no disrespect to anybody.
26:21
We need everybody in every sector and every industry to do what they do for everything to
26:25
run Bickety boo.
26:27
But I, over the years, I've invested a lot of money into my personal development, my
26:31
training, masterminds, workshops, mentors, coaches, there was no way I wasn't gonna take a
26:37
look at a serious look at my transferable skills and go, okay.
26:40
How can I work for myself but meet the needs of my children?
26:43
And them, of course, being and always remaining the number one priority.
26:46
So I just got clear.
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I got clear.
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I stepped into it.
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I took a risk.
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And I have been going like stank ever since.
26:54
So and it's it's so inter interesting that a lot of times, and even my story at the time, I
26:59
I walked away also ending my marriage, I did the same thing.
27:03
I I didn't have a job.
27:04
And, you know, and I thought, well, this is this is so not feeding my soul anymore.
27:10
That I have to I have to clear my soul first of all, and then my friend said to me, you know,
27:15
maybe you kinda could have thought this out.
27:17
Maybe you could have waited a little bit and I said, that comes a point when the door goes
27:22
down and you have to do something.
27:24
And I, I remember clarity that day when I said, Okay.
27:27
I'm out.
27:28
And, you know, corporate consulting job, 6 figure income.
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I'm in this house alone thinking, okay.
27:35
Now, what am I gonna Right?
27:37
And then, like, you're right.
27:38
It's kinda like I've gotta go through this dark tunnel, and I'm hoping to God there's light on
27:42
the other side, but I know what I'm coming for from was, was not feeding my soul to be able to
27:47
walk towards something different.
27:49
And it's having that belief, yes, in yourself or, like, said in something bigger, then I'm
27:54
gonna be okay because I've got it in there, even though I may not feel like it at that
27:59
time, because I'm in pain.
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Mean, in dire straits, you know, I've got a young son.
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My son was 8, those types of things.
28:05
And then what happens, you know, you, you connect.
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You connect.
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You have good friends.
28:10
Is what resilience is about, and we know that from the research.
28:13
It's about do I sit in a ball and and feel sorry for myself, or do I just throw myself a
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little party once a year get everybody together as often as I need to, to connect, to chat, to
28:24
have chocolate, to have wine, to talk about, you know, your children, or, you know, those
28:29
types of things.
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And then somewhere along there, you get through that time.
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Yes.
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Right?
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And it's about recognizing, like you said, it's It's an incremental bit, a bit at a time.
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And, okay, what can I do now?
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What can I do now?
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And sometimes it doesn't have to be a big vision other than I just don't wanna feel you
28:47
know, as cruddy as I'm feeling today, so there must be something different.
28:51
So when you kind of look at your goals, because I think that's important, You know, a lot of
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people, you know, they they plan goals and, you know, they it's it's kinda like, how do I get
29:01
my vision?
29:03
Like, you know, like you, like you, I I have a legacy in the world.
29:06
I want to ensure that everybody in this world recognizes that they are not where him from.
29:11
And pain does not define you.
29:13
Pain is something that's there, but you can pass through it and really actualize who you
29:19
need to be.
29:19
That's that's what I hope to do with every, you know, women and child in the world because I
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know women you know, not that Mendo, but they are the concentric circles of the family, and
29:28
also men, you know, to be able to help them.
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That's what I want.
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So that And so my son sees that, and he's a phenomenal young man in the world.
29:36
When you plan your goals, right, or when you plan your goals, How do you do that?
29:41
Do you do, like, okay, in the next 5 years, I'm going to be, you know, the number one blogger
29:47
in the world.
29:48
What what how do you define that?
29:49
And then how do you break it down from 5 years or 3 years to 1 year to 6 months to, you know,
29:56
every month to daily, because I think that's a good thing for people to know as they kind of
30:01
walk through goals because, you know, everybody does the New Year Resolution and we know how
30:06
far that gets, which is really following through.
30:09
So I'm just curious about what you do.
30:11
Well, I'll to your question, I'll get because people need to understand examples.
30:15
People benefit from examples and storytelling.
30:18
So two things that I can speak to with regards to that with long term goals.
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So one, going back to what I said about, you know, my my children and I, we transplanted
30:29
back here in Ontario, as a result of the separation going into divorce.
30:33
That was 2011, bought this house, did the house hunting on my own, got the house, about 2 weeks
30:41
after I got the house, that's when their father moved to Madagascar.
30:45
I knew that there wasn't going to it was gonna take It was gonna take about 4, 5 years in
30:53
total with him having been on contract and then knowing when the contract ended, He would then
31:00
need to transplant himself back here.
31:03
He would have to find a new place to live.
31:05
He would need to find a new job, and that was gonna take some time.
31:08
So I was at that point already committed to, you know what?
31:13
I don't know what the stability because this is what we talked about.
31:15
For 5 years, we had lawyers appointments time he came back from Madagascar.
31:20
And, you know, so it was like, okay.
31:23
What's going to happen in 5 years with the status of the home?
31:27
Is Lisa gonna be able to afford to do a buyout.
31:30
Right?
31:31
In my mind, and this was before I even embarked upon becoming entrepreneurial.
31:36
It was probably like 6 months to a year before I got to that point of embarking upon becoming
31:41
entrepreneurial, but this was something that the lawyers had already said, we need to start,
31:45
you need to start thinking about this, Lisa.
31:47
So the expectation was, you know, once my youngest started school full time.
31:52
And, of course, my kids already having been young at that point, and they were 18 months
31:55
apart.
31:57
I thought, you know what?
31:58
I know 5 years goes exceptionally fast.
32:00
You don't need to tell me that.
32:02
People think they've got lots of time.
32:03
They can sit on things.
32:04
They can I didn't have the luxury of going through what normal people would generally be
32:10
entitled to as far as a grieving process or adapting to their new reality of being a true
32:14
single parent, with very minimal infrastructure of support?
32:18
I knew I had to get busy.
32:20
I knew I had to get clear.
32:21
I knew I had to figure this out very, very fast because I knew that 5 years was gonna come up
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very quick.
32:27
I said to myself, I said to him, and I said this in in lawyer's meetings.
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I said, I don't know what the plan is yet.
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But there will never be a for sale sign on that property.
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I will be buying you out.
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These kids are not gonna go through transition again.
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This is the only home based on the age of this having happened that they have any recollection
32:49
of.
32:49
They didn't remember the home in Alberta because, again, my son was 3.
32:53
My daughter was 18 months when we came to Ontario.
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And I said, I am not going through that.
32:58
We've done a provincial move.
32:59
They've had to say goodbye to their dad.
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To go to mass Madagascar.
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Everything's changed.
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I said, we are not going through that again.
33:07
I don't care what it takes.
33:09
I don't care what it looks like.
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That is not happening.
33:12
So I had already made that very definitive, definitive, clear, not only within myself, but
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I spoke that out as my reality.
33:21
I spoke it out to the, other parties who needed to be privy to this discussion, who needed to
33:26
know what my thought process was.
33:28
And so, of course, within that 5 year span of still being lawyered up and still having to
33:33
come to resolution and the contract having come to an end, and then it very much getting to the
33:37
point of, it was 4 years.
33:40
I asked for another year because I was already entrepreneur at that point.
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And I said, you know what?
33:43
It's not unrealistic for a start up.
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For somebody to need, like, 2 or 3 years to figure this out.
33:49
At this point, it had been 4.
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They wanted an answer at the 4 year mark.
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I said, no.
33:53
I've I've for all the sacrifices that I've made and the position that I've been in and as, you
33:58
know, and I would never begrudge having been a stay at home mom, because I wouldn't want it
34:03
any differently, but I was fundamentally always a careerist.
34:06
So because I chose to give my children the best upbringing possible, also in murky
34:11
circumstances of major transition and me not having a lot of support, there has to be some
34:16
flexibility with that.
34:17
There has to be some, you know, there has to be some leeway with that because you've been
34:22
climbing in your job in Madagascar making killer cash, and I've been raising your
34:27
children.
34:29
And we're amicable.
34:30
So there's no facetiousness here.
34:32
But it was like, no.
34:33
I I walked out of my job, I walked out of promotions.
34:37
I've walked out of salaries.
34:38
I've walked out of all kinds of things.
34:41
And I said, and I've made a very good go at this.
34:44
I know where this is going.
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You owe me 1 more year.
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You owe me 1 more year before I can do that buyout.
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And I'm sitting there going, how the hell am I gonna do this?
34:53
But I'm gonna do it.
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And so that 5th year mark came.
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That date was on the calendar 1 year in advance of having that discussion.
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And I'd met with my lawyer beforehand because she wanted prep with me before we had that,
35:05
group collaborative meeting.
35:06
And I said, yep, I can do this.
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And I was able to not only get my, you know, reclaim my home and it'd be my home and do the
35:15
buyout, but I did it without a cosigner.
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And, Everybody was shocked.
35:20
Everybody was shocked including myself, but, but see, this is the power of language.
35:24
This is the power of mindset.
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It was more.
35:28
It freaked me out more to envision what my children would go through with showings, a for
35:35
sale sign, you know, still having to move, even if it was locally, but it was to something
35:39
cheaper.
35:40
You still gotta move house.
35:41
You still gotta, you know, you gotta keep kids busy while you got real estate agents coming
35:45
through, showing people their home.
35:47
My kids wouldn't have understood it.
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It would have been a disaster.
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And so that thought made it non negotiable for me.
35:54
It's like, that cannot happen at any cost.
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I need to make sure that my kids never see that situation.
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Come to the light of day.
36:03
And so it made me work harder.
36:06
It made me get more exceptionally clear.
36:08
And I think as moms, you know, like that mama bear, that that whatever.
36:13
I mean, there is nothing to me that's more intrinsically more materially that just takes
36:18
over.
36:19
You know, you hear about women lifting cars off their children or, you know, all these kinds of
36:23
weird situations when they're, they're, you're faced with a crisis.
36:26
Well, that was my crisis.
36:28
I couldn't imagine my kids going through that emotionally.
36:32
And if it was just me, I wouldn't care.
36:34
Let go of the house, but this was their home.
36:36
We laid down some roots.
36:37
We got school around the corner.
36:39
I built up an infrastructure of support.
36:41
I was not gonna put myself through the the kids unnecessary upheaval.
36:46
So that was a 5 year plan.
36:48
I didn't know where I was going at the beginning of that, but it was just it was
36:51
nonnegotiable.
36:53
So when I saw when I envisioned that 5 year goal of no for sale sign, and I've played it
36:59
over and over sitting in that lawyer's meeting.
37:02
I can do the bio.
37:04
I played that over and over.
37:06
Not, oh my god.
37:07
How am I gonna make this work?
37:08
And, you know, no.
37:09
It was like, nope.
37:11
When I did my mind work, when I got very clear.
37:14
It was everything that I played over in my mind.
37:17
It was the end result of what I was aspiring to achieve.
37:21
It was being able to look the lawyers in the face and my ex husband and say, yep, I did
37:26
this, and I did it on my own.
37:29
And that's what I focused on.
37:30
That's what I focused on.
37:32
You had a pinpoint and vision Yes.
37:34
At the end of the day, and I think that's the important thing.
37:36
And I oftentimes, people set goals and they don't hook it to what's emo what's important to
37:45
them.
37:45
Yes.
37:46
That's the pebble and the rough here that I'm pulling out, because oftentimes people will
37:50
say, you know, I want this massive career, but they don't realize they're gonna be in a train
37:54
playing an automobile away from the people they love, the people, the reason they're doing it.
37:58
So I think betting goals like you did and being so pointed to come by vision.
38:04
And then from there, what you're saying that everything kinda things started to kinda morph
38:08
out of that.
38:09
Is that what you're saying?
38:10
Yes.
38:11
So example number 2, and I'll be very quick about this.
38:14
So example number 2, so I've been doing radio podcasting for 3 years.
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Celebrated my 3 year anniversary yesterday.
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Thank
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you.
38:22
I appreciate that.
38:24
And so I knew that this had to become part of my business model.
38:29
And I knew I was relatively new.
38:30
I was I wasn't new to being in the media because, of course, this I was always the
38:34
spokesperson for the agency that I represented or client demographic that I represented.
38:39
So, you know, when it was women's day or if it was cert something on the calendar and it was a
38:44
news event, local news.
38:46
I was always in the paper.
38:47
I was always taking the mic and stuff like that.
38:49
So again, these are transferable skills.
38:50
I've always been very comfortable with public speaking.
38:53
I've always been comfortable talking about things again that I am impassioned by,
38:57
particularly when it comes from a pay it forward via service, you know, help the
39:01
collective, help the masses.
39:04
So when I got sought out for radio 3 years ago by the contact Talk Radio Network, Cameron
39:09
Steele, the network owner, and I'm now with 2 global network C suite.
39:13
Radio network in New York and Jeffrey Hazlett.
39:15
He is the co founder CEO of that.
39:17
So double platform, but I knew I knew even when it came to, okay.
39:23
You know, this is a weekly gig.
39:24
I need to find guests.
39:26
You know, there's a lot of work that's involved in that.
39:28
I need to build up a social media footprint that for anybody who big I'm going after,
39:33
they're gonna do their homework and go, okay, who's this girl?
39:36
And, you know, what kind of followership does she have, behind her?
39:40
How serious is she?
39:42
So, you know, I took a look at who I wanted my guest roster to consist of.
39:47
And I've I've I've interviewed people who have notable household names and people who don't
39:54
but they're all equally stellar in their own right and bring something to my loyal listeners
39:59
and my podcast subscribers.
40:01
And so I thought okay.
40:03
Well, who would I want to be on my show?
40:05
You know, this is all about consciousness and action.
40:07
This is all about personal empowerment.
40:09
You know, who are the people that have resonate with me in my journey who have I spunched up in
40:13
the personal development world for decades of belonging to it long before it became buzzword
40:19
or trendy or cool or Whatever.
40:22
When you're in social services, you're very much immersed in the personal development
40:25
world.
40:26
And so I thought, okay.
40:27
You know, Deepak Chopra, He I resonated with him.
40:31
God Deepak Chopra took me a year and only got a 20 minute interview out of my 55 minute time
40:37
slot.
40:38
But I got Deepak Chopra.
40:39
When after Lisa Gibbons, David Suzuki, all kinds of people in their in different realms of
40:46
of what they're good at and would be considered like a a top tier expert or a thought leader.
40:52
I went after these people, and it's consistently, I'm doing it one right after
40:55
another, which has increased my stats, my visibility, my podcast subscribers.
41:01
I'm now sitting at over half a million podcast subscribers, which I'm very grateful for.
41:06
And, I'm oversubscribed now, and I'm looking to expand my show to twice a week.
41:12
But again, when I started out, I was no one.
41:15
And I didn't know who was gonna take me seriously, and I didn't know who was gonna say
41:18
yes in terms of the top tier guests being sought I sought out to appear as a guest on my
41:23
radio show.
41:24
And then, you know, once you get the first one, then it's easier to sell for the second time
41:29
for the big person, the big person.
41:31
You keep going.
41:31
You keep going.
41:32
And I thought, you know what?
41:33
I'm gonna take this to the level where I can be one of those very few podcasters in this world
41:39
because we're an oversubscribed oversaturated industry.
41:43
And people say all the time, I mean, Howard Stern has set it down on his podcast.
41:47
You know, it's virtually impossible to monetize But, again, I don't take those limitations.
41:53
I mean, the only person who's gonna place limits on me is me, and I'm not gonna place
41:58
limits on myself.
41:59
I don't even say sky is the limit.
42:01
I say beyond the sky is the limit.
42:03
I'm not holding myself back.
42:05
I don't allow other people to hold myself back.
42:07
I'm very good at tuning out the naysayers, the critics, the whatever.
42:10
I am so laser focused on what I'm doing.
42:13
So for the for two and a half years, people would get showcased for free.
42:18
The last 6 months last year or so, I have turned it into now it's pay to play.
42:24
Because people need to start, and this is how I explain it.
42:28
To p some people go some peep most people get it.
42:30
They understand the rate of investment.
42:32
They understand the rate of return.
42:34
They understand that they wanna take their product, their voice, their message, their
42:38
brand, their book, their whatever.
42:40
And the whole point of media is to garner, the largest possible audience that you can.
42:47
You wanna get more impact.
42:48
You wanna get more people following you.
42:49
You wanna increase your bottom line.
42:52
And so I say to people, look, I'm connected with 2 global networks now.
42:59
Combined listenership hovers anywhere between 4 to 8,000,000 were heard in a 100 and 45
43:04
countries, 220 TV radio terrestrial satellites, and the potential for millions of iTunes
43:09
downloads.
43:10
We do my graph my team.
43:12
We do graphics.
43:13
We embed the the pictures that you would want showcased.
43:16
We do it 3 days a week.
43:17
We do it all over my social media, every social media platform I have.
43:21
If we're attached somehow, I tag you, cross promote you, I have, like, over a hundred
43:26
thousand people between my social media sites.
43:29
So just from out of the gate before we even go live, you know, they're getting major, major
43:35
promotion.
43:36
And the more people find out who I'm interviewing, and it's a guest that perhaps
43:40
resonates with them, and then they listen to either the live show or the podcast, then it's
43:46
like, okay, I wanna tune into this is great content.
43:49
I wanna tune into this more consistently.
43:51
And, so, yeah, so people understand this is a business model now.
43:57
And, you know, it's it's it's no different than going to a gas station.
44:02
You don't go to a gas station, fill up your vehicle and and not expect to pay.
44:06
You don't go to the grocery store, fill up your cart, and wave to the cashier.
44:10
See you later.
44:11
I am providing a service.
44:12
That would be a bit critical.
44:14
So, really, it's about being pointed
44:17
Yep.
44:17
And following it.
44:18
You may not know where you're gonna end up, but you have a vision.
44:21
Yeah.
44:22
You wanted to make a difference in your children.
44:24
You wanted your children to be safe and secure or Yes.
44:27
Wanted to create a legacy.
44:28
And out of that came all these amazing things.
44:31
With a lot of hard work, though.
44:34
A lot
44:34
of hard work, but it also goes down to the core fundamental ingredient, which anybody who I've
44:39
showcased, anybody I've interviewed, anyone who's my mentor, even yourself, Roxanne, you
44:44
know this.
44:45
You have to fundamentally believe in yourself.
44:48
If you don't believe in yourself, no one else is gonna believe or buy into you.
44:52
You've got to be your number one fan and people think, oh my god.
44:56
That's so narcissistic.
44:57
That's so egoic.
44:58
It's, no, it's not.
45:00
Itself love.
45:02
You know, why would I love you more than I love myself?
45:07
Why would I see my self as a secondary class citizen, why do I think you deserve happiness
45:11
in abundance?
45:12
And I don't.
45:13
Why would I bra you and go, good on you, Roxanne?
45:17
I mean, boom.
45:18
You've done this.
45:19
Boom.
45:19
You've done that.
45:19
And then when I look at my own accomplishments and poo poo it.
45:23
Oh, it's not a big deal.
45:24
Yeah.
45:25
It is a big deal because I know the blood sweat and tears that have gone into making that
45:30
happen.
45:30
And then for people who think from a marketing perspective or an optics perspective or a
45:35
social media perspective, that everything that I ramp up, like, oh, I've interfaced with this
45:40
person or this is who I'm showcasing or, you know, I've just put out my 4th children's book
45:44
or I've got a book signing or I've got I spoke at Harvard a year and a half ago, whatever the
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case may be, people think, oh my god.
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Like, this person's just so lucky.
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There's absolutely nothing to do.
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It's nothing to do with luck.
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You know, I could tell you all the rejections I get as compared to the bull's eye.
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I can tell you about all the things that have gone awry or fallen apart as compared to the
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things that seemingly look effortless and like, wow, like, this keeps materializing for her,
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you know, but I, I, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna take my, my failures and my flops to
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social media.
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I don't mind talking about it from a vulnerability standpoint and authentic
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standpoint in an interview like this, but so media.
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It's a visionary board for me.
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I use social media.
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I put it out there as an accountability piece.
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It's not enough just for me to write my sticky notes and my my goal sheets and my journaling
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and my self proclamations and my rituals.
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I want the people who I'm expecting and graciously requesting and hoping buy in to me,
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whether it be tuning into my podcast or buying my books or attending my speaking engagement or
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wanting to collaborate or or with me in some capacity, I want people twofold.
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I want people to see, yes, I don't just hold myself accountable.
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Publicly, because I'm a public figure as are you, I am hold I'm allowing you to hold me
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accountable.
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So if I'm falling short, take me to task.
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I mean, likely, I'm not gonna put myself in a position of humiliation like that.
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And something doesn't, occur in the way I've been led to believe, because third party people
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will disappoint you and drop the ball, not necessarily because I did, and I don't out
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people, and I don't you know, defame people or humiliate people, but I put it out there as a 3
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d visionary board.
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Secondly, as a result of saying I'm holding on to my house on Facebook as a result of saying
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I'm going to be an entrepreneur, even though my mom and my grandma just died and and my exes in
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Madagascar, and I'm a single parent to 2 young kids, you know, the amount of people through
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seeing my momentum and growth, more importantly, who have reached out to me Whether
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it's turned into a mentoring, coaching client relationship or it's just turned into a
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testimonial or feedback or whatever the case may be, privately and publicly.
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Lisa, as a result of you having the balls to do that, I looked at what everything I know your
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backstory to be, And I I said, I can't sit on the couch anymore.
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I can't feel sorry for myself.
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Look at what she's doing, and she's just this average woman from Dundas, Ontario, Canada, She
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she's amassed what she's amassed out of nothing because she saw it, and she went for it.
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And she didn't let anyone get in her way more so myself I didn't get my own way, I got very
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comfortable with being uncomfortable.
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These people have seen how possible this is because I've chosen to hold myself accountable
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on social media, they are now they're shifting in their life.
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They're they're walking into living fearlessly completely on their own now, as a result of
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seeing me as a living, breathing example, somebody who has walked the talk.
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So when I
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You're the role model.
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Yes.
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You have to live up to that role.
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You elevate that, sir, yourself to that.
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And obviously, I can see, you know, your passion because on the other end, it was it
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was, you know, you interviewing me, so I didn't see this, but I love it.
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I love it.
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And the enthusiasm and the fact that you wanna make a difference in the world, which is really
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what I wanna do too.
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Right?
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I mean
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You are.
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You are.
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Own it.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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For sure.
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For sure.
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So I, you know, you've really helped me understand your path, and I I know my listeners
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have gotten a phenomenal message out of this.
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If there's I wanna make sure that whoever wants to reach out to you wants to buy your book or
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what where do they find you?
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I appreciate that.
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So the best, place to connect with me because all my suite of services are there.
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My contact information is there.
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You know, all the different, apps to connect with on Facebook.
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Everything is on my website.
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It's my newly brand website living fearlessly with lisa.com.
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So living fearlessly with lisa.com.
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And there's different sections for whatever it is that you're interested in connecting with
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me.
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There's a section for speaking.
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There's a section for radio.
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Wanting to become a guest, where to buy my books, etcetera, etcetera, or just to have a
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conversation.
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So if there's anything I can do to help you help yourself.
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I'm here to empower you to help yourself to empower yourself.
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And again, it's all through uplifting you to fear less and to live more.
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So if you feel there's a connection, if you see that there's a way in which I can help you,
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there's also, fermentering and coaching too.
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There's a whole host of different, ways people can connect with me, but it's all at my website
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living fearlessly with lisa.com, living fear leads with lisa.com.
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Not to mention for anyone who's connected with you on social media, they just have to go in
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your search bar and put in Lisa McDonald because we're connected.
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Awesome.
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LinkedIn is my favorite site because it truly is professional.
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People are really there.
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They're there to convert.
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They're there to do business.
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It's it's real deal.
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Yeah.
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So all I can say is, my show is about authenticity, and I don't I think you might be
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the most authentic if not one of the most authentic guests I've had to date.
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So thank you so much.
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I can talk to you.
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And,
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I I want anybody else wants to hear more, about my, living authentically with Roxanne.
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You can go to roxannegarage.comsupport slash sex, and that will give you a a a video series
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on entire intimacy and sex relationships so they could be unique to better, but with not
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two videos that will come your way.
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Next, again, for tuning in, and, we'll talk to you soon.
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Thank you so much, Brock.
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That was beautiful.
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I appreciate it.
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Thanks again, Lisa.
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We'll talk soon.
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Fantastic.
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You have great day.
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Bye bye.
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