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- 0:04Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's Thursday, September 24, 2026. Our Prime Minister's collecting an
- 0:16Speaker 1: award for being a global citizen in New York today,
- 0:19Speaker 1: even after an embarrassing slapdown from Donald Trump on what
- 0:23Speaker 1: was supposed to be a triumphant mission for artificial intelligence reform.
- 0:28Speaker 1: The Albanese government's going to call the bluff of artificial
- 0:31Speaker 1: intelligence companies who want us to trash copyright laws. That's
- 0:36Speaker 1: the vow from the government's AI evangelist, Andrew Charlton. But
- 0:40Speaker 1: even he is warning the coming data centre boom could
- 0:43Speaker 1: send all our domestic power bills soaring. Today, a huge
- 0:48Speaker 1: day in the AI revolution.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence, here and after officially called super intelligence, changing
- 1:05Speaker 2: the name, the use of the word artificial makes intelligence fake.
- 1:09Speaker 2: It makes it sound fake, and it is not fake.
- 1:12Speaker 1: It's actually amazing, but we have to be careful. In
- 1:18Speaker 1: New York, Anthony Albanese got a giant slapdown from Donald
- 1:21Speaker 1: Trump on his bid to get global agreement on artificial
- 1:25Speaker 1: intelligence regulation.
- 1:27Speaker 2: The United States also totally rejects any attempt to construct
- 1:32Speaker 2: a globalist scheme to control for the artificial intelligence being
- 1:37Speaker 2: spoken of so much now.
- 1:40Speaker 1: And a sideswipe on Australia's attempts to curb social media
- 1:43Speaker 1: giants all consuming algorithms.
- 1:47Speaker 3: It's not about giving government control. It's about giving people
- 1:50Speaker 3: back control over what they receive on their devices.
- 1:57Speaker 1: In Sydney, Albo's deputy sheriff on superintelligence, let's go with it,
- 2:01Speaker 1: is Andrew Charlton. He used the Australian's annual forum, Energy Nation,
- 2:06Speaker 1: to make a big vow.
- 2:08Speaker 4: We are calling their bluff.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Charlton was talking about the government's negotiations with AI giants
- 2:15Speaker 1: like Anthropic. who say they won't even consider building giant
- 2:20Speaker 1: data centres in Australia if the government refuses to amend
- 2:23Speaker 1: copyright law. Anthropic, like its peers OpenAI and Google, wants
- 2:28Speaker 1: a special exemption from the rules that say if you
- 2:32Speaker 1: use someone's art or journalism or literature or music, you
- 2:36Speaker 1: have to pay. They say they'll build data centres here
- 2:40Speaker 1: in Australia, but only if they can train their bots
- 2:43Speaker 1: by scraping all creative works for free.
- 2:47Speaker 4: The Prime Minister outlined our principles on copyright and the
- 2:52Speaker 4: government is not budging one centimetre from those principles.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Charlton is an AI evangelist. He believes we're on the
- 3:00Speaker 1: cusp of an opportunity we'll never see again in our lifetimes.
- 3:05Speaker 1: An instant fix to all Australia's problems. Sluggish productivity, low
- 3:11Speaker 1: foreign investment.
- 3:12Speaker 4: At 2.3% of GDP, the data centre boom is three
- 3:16Speaker 4: times bigger than the fibre optic boom of the 1990s.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Twice as big as the national highway rollout in the
- 3:27Speaker 4: 1950s and 60s. 50% bigger than the electrification investment boom
- 3:34Speaker 4: of the 1930s. You have to go back to the
- 3:37Speaker 4: 1880s and 1890s to find an equivalently sized infrastructure boom.
- 3:46Speaker 4: The railway boom of that period that transformed our economies.
- 3:52Speaker 4: This is a massive change in our economy.
- 3:55Speaker 1: The copyright issue is one thing, and that's a battle
- 3:58Speaker 1: Charlton is having right now inside the government, with colleagues
- 4:01Speaker 1: like Attorney-General Michelle Rowland and the Prime Minister himself. They've
- 4:06Speaker 1: promised musicians and authors they won't sell out their copyrights.
- 4:10Speaker 1: It looks like the government's leaning towards the kind of
- 4:13Speaker 1: model Europe has adopted. That is, creators can opt out
- 4:17Speaker 1: of having their content scraped by AI. But would painters
- 4:22Speaker 1: and musicians really do that? Is it fair to put
- 4:25Speaker 1: the burden on them? Can we trust AI companies not
- 4:28Speaker 1: to just steal their creations anyway? So why do we
- 4:33Speaker 1: want data centres here? You hear a lot of talk
- 4:36Speaker 1: about sovereignty. Analyst Saul Kovonick summed it up like this
- 4:40Speaker 1: at Energy Nation.
- 4:42Speaker 5: It's ICU dispensation, dispensation of drugs in ICU and hospitals,
- 4:48Speaker 5: air traffic control, cyber security, defence. All of this is
- 4:52Speaker 5: run by data centres, right? And you cannot have that
- 4:56Speaker 5: data and that capability offshore. If we can't rely on
- 5:00Speaker 5: our closest ally to provide digital and AI services to
- 5:05Speaker 5: us in a crisis... It means we have to have
- 5:08Speaker 5: that sovereign capability at home.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Charlton thinks we have to insist that AI companies build
- 5:14Speaker 1: their own energy generation so that they're not sucking power
- 5:18Speaker 1: out of our grid and that we have to move
- 5:20Speaker 1: incredibly fast, much faster, let's be honest, than Australia's ever
- 5:25Speaker 1: moved on anything. In the room at Energy Nation were
- 5:29Speaker 1: all the country's biggest names in gas, renewables and every
- 5:33Speaker 1: other form of energy. and you could almost hear them
- 5:36Speaker 1: raising their eyebrows. It takes years to get any kind
- 5:39Speaker 1: of energy project approved here. Communities are still blowing up
- 5:43Speaker 1: about transmission lines and wind farms. So even if the
- 5:47Speaker 1: Albanese government can somehow sweep past local councils and angry
- 5:52Speaker 1: communities and approved data centres across the country, can they
- 5:55Speaker 1: really bring with them the vast amount of power generation
- 5:59Speaker 1: they're going to need? Charlton is optimistic.
- 6:03Speaker 4: The investment is coming. We have a choice, whether we
- 6:08Speaker 4: allow that investment to strengthen the grid or to strain it,
- 6:14Speaker 4: whether it puts upward pressure on power bills or helps
- 6:17Speaker 4: us exert some downward pressure, whether it builds Australian capability
- 6:23Speaker 4: or merely consumes Australian power. The choice is not predetermined.
- 6:30Speaker 4: It will be made by the rules we write now
- 6:33Speaker 4: and we are determined to right them well.
- 6:38Speaker 1: But he also has a warning. If we don't get
- 6:40Speaker 1: this right, Australians' power bills will go through the roof,
- 6:43Speaker 1: as has happened in some American communities.
- 6:47Speaker 4: I think we have a lot to learn from the
- 6:48Speaker 4: American experience, as I said. I think there are places
- 6:51Speaker 4: in the United States where they've got it badly wrong,
- 6:54Speaker 4: and households have paid the price for that. Higher electricity bills,
- 7:00Speaker 4: restricted access to water, negative impacts on local communities. And
- 7:05Speaker 4: you can see the consequences of that. The consequences of
- 7:07Speaker 4: that is a huge loss of social licence from the
- 7:10Speaker 4: data centre industry.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Coming up, Queensland blazes its own trail on AI. In
- 7:36Speaker 1: the middle of a summer day in Queensland, the sun
- 7:38Speaker 1: is blazing and the state's rooftop solar panels are generating
- 7:42Speaker 1: vast quantities of energy, much more than is needed to
- 7:46Speaker 1: power home and office air conditioning. That's just part of
- 7:50Speaker 1: the reason why Queensland would be insane not to welcome
- 7:54Speaker 1: the advent of data centres that could be using that power.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Here's Premier David Crissifulli at Energy Nation.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Our energy story is real, and we put it down
- 8:07Speaker 3: to three words. Affordable, reliable, sustainable. And you can have
- 8:14Speaker 3: all three, and we've proven that.
- 8:17Speaker 1: The Premier's walking tall after staring down Federal Climate Change
- 8:21Speaker 1: and Energy Minister Chris Bowen. Bowen tried to insist all
- 8:25Speaker 1: AI data centres must be fuelled by renewables. Chris Foley
- 8:29Speaker 1: and Northern Territory Chief Minister Leah Fenocchiaro insisted coal and
- 8:33Speaker 1: gas had to be allowed, and the Prime Minister gave
- 8:36Speaker 1: them exactly what they wanted. It seems to be working.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Anthropic has already signed up to be part of a
- 8:43Speaker 1: $ 32 billion data centre project in Queensland's Western Downs, just
- 8:48Speaker 1: northwest of Toowoomba, to power its bot, Claude. Western Downs
- 8:53Speaker 1: will be powered by gas, coal, wind, solar and batteries.
- 8:58Speaker 3: We're not going to give people a free pass. Now,
- 9:00Speaker 3: we are very open for business government. We really are.
- 9:03Speaker 3: But I look at it this way. We've got a
- 9:07Speaker 3: young fleet of coal-fired power stations. We've invested very, very
- 9:10Speaker 3: heavily in them, and they're working well. On the back
- 9:12Speaker 3: of it, we've got a whole heap of energy in
- 9:14Speaker 3: the middle of the day that, quite frankly, isn't being used,
- 9:17Speaker 3: certainly to its capacity. We can use that as a
- 9:21Speaker 3: way of making sure that we can incentivise getting people
- 9:23Speaker 3: there and then build the extra capacity for the peaks
- 9:26Speaker 3: that you need. That takes away those waves. It makes
- 9:29Speaker 3: it a lot more seamless. And on the back of that,
- 9:33Speaker 3: we genuinely believe we can get the new energy generation
- 9:37Speaker 3: that is needed for an expanding population, and we can
- 9:39Speaker 3: get others to pay for it. And that means one thing,
- 9:42Speaker 3: and that is constantly putting downward pressure on people's power prices.
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