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Browns WON the Travis Hunter trade, Broncos justify Waddle trade, NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: do need to give a standing ovation today to the Browns.
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Speaker 1: I gotta give some flowers to the Denver Broncos new
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Speaker 1: ownership because I looked at some numbers today they are
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Speaker 1: spending some serious money. Kind of hit me last night
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Speaker 1: watching Stefan Curry Go Go Nuts hit a game winning three.
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Speaker 1: Is he the most entertaining player of the last twenty
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Speaker 1: five years in all of sports? Kind of? I had
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Speaker 1: a list of a couple other guys that I would
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Speaker 1: throw in there. I actually might have left out Michael Vick.
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Speaker 1: I would have put him up really high as well.
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Speaker 1: But there's a difference between being a great player, which
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Speaker 1: obviously he is too. But like I wouldn't call Tom
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Speaker 1: Brady like the most entertaining player of all time, most accomplished,
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Speaker 1: best winner, made the right plays. But Curry man, he is.
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Speaker 1: He is box office Fugazi Friday and uh yeah, I do.
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Speaker 1: I saw that story going viral of the WNBA the
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Speaker 1: girls that are dating and the pr check I do
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Speaker 1: want to dive in. Is that kind of risky team building?
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Speaker 1: Like what if you get a bad breakup in the
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Speaker 1: middle of your season. But we'll just do some mail
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Speaker 1: You'll never miss a show. So, but let's just start
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Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. They are a team, an organization,
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Speaker 1: a front office that gets made fun of a lot.
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Speaker 1: I'm as guilty as anybody. I've been really hard on
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Speaker 1: them the last couple of years forgetting a free pass,
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Speaker 1: and I've had my theories. You know, they were Stefanski
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Speaker 1: and Barry, two Ivy League guys. I've always thought the
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Speaker 1: media kind of sees themselves in those guys as like
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Speaker 1: educated guys, not some meathead football. You know, typical dude.
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Speaker 1: But that organization has been a complete trade wreck for
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But I don't think they
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Speaker 1: get enough credit on the trade they made last year.
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Speaker 1: And when it was announced over the course of the
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Speaker 1: past week that Travis Hunter is now gonna focus on
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Speaker 1: playing defensive back, it was like, he's like Otani, he's
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Speaker 1: gonna play corner, He's gonna play wide receiver. And I'll
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Speaker 1: never forget this because I don't know if it was
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Speaker 1: leading up to the draft or after the draft, might
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Speaker 1: have even been in training camp. John Harbaugh, was the
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Speaker 1: Ravens coach at the time, said there's not enough time
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Speaker 1: in the day to do both in the NFL, and
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Speaker 1: I couldn't have agreed more because at corner you have
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Speaker 1: to cover every single week, jamar Cha, Cede Lamb, you know,
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Speaker 1: you name it. You go through the wide receivers hell,
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Speaker 1: average teams have unreal aj Brown. Just go through the
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Speaker 1: list of top wide receivers in the NFL, and a
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Speaker 1: wide receiver most weeks you're going up against big time
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Speaker 1: defensive backs and hell in his own conference or in
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Speaker 1: his own division. You know, the Colts trade for Sace Gardner.
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Speaker 1: You look at the guys the Texans have. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you're looking at guys that live in mansions, drive range
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Speaker 1: rovers and make all pro teams. So it's not a
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Speaker 1: position like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and Sauce Gardner
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Speaker 1: and these guys. They spend all their time on their
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Speaker 1: one position. And if you just made Travis Hunter coming
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Speaker 1: out of college, he was incredible. I loved watching him.
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Speaker 1: I used to bet on Colorado. I'm not, by any
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Speaker 1: means a Travis Hunter hater, but his value and the
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Speaker 1: reason that Ladstone moved up and picked some number two
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Speaker 1: overall is because we've never really seen anything like that.
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Speaker 1: Even though most people I think in the NFL would
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Speaker 1: have agreed it's not really feasible to be full time
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Speaker 1: starter at both. And if you're gonna take a guy
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Speaker 1: number two overall, who if he just played his each
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Speaker 1: position independent of each other, like if he had just
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Speaker 1: been a wide receiver or just been a corner, He's
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Speaker 1: not going number two overall. Now, he's still a good prospect.
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Speaker 1: I would imagine most drafts if he was just a
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, if he was just a corner, he's going
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Speaker 1: somewhere from twelve to twenty. So he's a high level prospect,
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Speaker 1: but you're not getting Calvin Johnson, right, You're not getting
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Speaker 1: Deon Sanders. And the value in which they traded so
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Speaker 1: much was I think they thought that and then they
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Speaker 1: realized that that's not really possible, it's not really feasible.
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Speaker 1: And Andrew Berry, who he's gotten crushed on this show,
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Speaker 1: made one of the great trades of all time because
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Speaker 1: he traded back three spots and he immediately got one
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Speaker 1: of the top two or three players in the draft,
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Speaker 1: definitely after his one season. But Mason Graham has been
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Speaker 1: an elite player for years at Michigan and got to
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Speaker 1: the NFL and dominated immediately was on everyone's all rookie teams.
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Speaker 1: Why because he's an elite impact player. And they also
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Speaker 1: got a second round pick in which they took Quinchahn Jenkins,
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Speaker 1: who I believe has a chance to be a top
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Speaker 1: five or six running back in the NFL. One day
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Speaker 1: last year, he broke his leg. Had would have easily
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Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten injured, got over a thousand yards,
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Speaker 1: He had seven touchdowns, like he's a big time player.
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Speaker 1: He was the SEC Rookie of the Year. Transferred to
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Speaker 1: Ohio State obviously had his you know, playing time because
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Speaker 1: he split carries with Henderson. But like you just get
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Speaker 1: an extra pick and you get your starting running back
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Speaker 1: and oh yeah, we get your first rounder this year.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine right now today before the draft, if
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Speaker 1: the Jags and listen, they're not paid to draft as
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Speaker 1: a general manager in the NFL, you're paid to win.
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Speaker 1: And based on one season with Liam Cohen, that team
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Speaker 1: was fucking awesome. So as long as he keeps winning,
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Speaker 1: having a pick that he would like to have over
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Speaker 1: not necessarily drafting Travis Hunter, but what he gave up
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Speaker 1: to get him, which as he's sitting here right now,
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Speaker 1: he would redo the trade. Now, that's not the way
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Speaker 1: the world works, and things can change. But it's not
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Speaker 1: even debatable because if the Jags got on the phone
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Speaker 1: with the Browns and said, Andrew, we will offer you
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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter for Mason Graham, quinch On Jenkins and pick
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Speaker 1: twenty four, he'd get laughed off the phone. Andrew Berry
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Speaker 1: in a million years, wouldn't trade Mason Graham straight up
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Speaker 1: for Travis Hunter. Help. He had the chance to draft
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Speaker 1: him last year and did not. So I think when
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Speaker 1: you make these decisions, and Travis Hunter serves as a
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Speaker 1: good example. At the highest level of sports, Otani's a
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Speaker 1: one of one. They do not come around very often Sanders,
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Speaker 1: who is a much better, more explosive athlete. Not now,
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Speaker 1: he's only got a couple of toes on one feet
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Speaker 1: on one foot, but relative to Travis Hunter as a prospect,
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Speaker 1: played full time defensive back and then did return game
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Speaker 1: and played offense here and there. Now there were some
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Speaker 1: reports over the course of the last four or five
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Speaker 1: days that he will still dabble on offense, but he
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Speaker 1: is going to go all in on defensive back, and
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they looked at it. It's just easier
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Speaker 1: to acquire wide receivers in the draft in free agency.
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Speaker 1: Hell last year that by the end of the year
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Speaker 1: that Washington guy on their team's like, who is this guy?
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Speaker 1: I remember watching the Broncos game. He was just destroying them.
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Speaker 1: So you can find wide receivers, it is more difficult
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Speaker 1: to find defensive backs, so they go listen his value.
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Speaker 1: From an economic standpoint, it's more difficult to acquire these guys.
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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have a chance to get this level prospect
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Speaker 1: in this draft. Given that we don't have a first
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Speaker 1: round pick as a defensive back, so let's just transition
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Speaker 1: him and all of his focus goes to covering Alec Pierce,
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Speaker 1: to covering Nico Collins right to covering whoever. The best
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Speaker 1: wide receivers are on the Titans and everyone else that
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Speaker 1: we play in the AFC. So I think the Browns
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Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit because that trade was solid
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Speaker 1: at the time. I was like, oh, that's a lot
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Speaker 1: of value. It looks incredible now and like, ultimately, and
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Speaker 1: this is the problem for Andrew Berry, like you're not
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Speaker 1: just paid the wheel and deal. You do have to
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Speaker 1: win games. So now they're in on Todd Munkin, they
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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. Like obviously the Browns still have
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Speaker 1: a lot of question marks, but that was a big
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Speaker 1: time move. I also want to give flowers to the
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Speaker 1: Denver broncos. I was recently talking to a GM and
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Speaker 1: we were He's like, you know, what no one ever
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Speaker 1: talks about is how difficult our job is. That most
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Speaker 1: of us, even if we come up contractually, but if
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Speaker 1: we're come with a scouting background. When we get the GM,
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Speaker 1: the guy we talk to the most beside the head coach,
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Speaker 1: is the owner. And most of these owners, especially the
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Speaker 1: ones that didn't inherit it and bought the team themselves,
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Speaker 1: are self made billionaires. They are guys who are filthy
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Speaker 1: rich and speak a language that anyone that came up
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Speaker 1: in pro scouting in college scouting as an assistant GM,
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Speaker 1: how are you going to relate to someone worth ten,
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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty billion dollars who does that for a
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Speaker 1: living when your job is to evaluate football players. Now,
9:35
Speaker 1: you can relate talking football like they love talking players,
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Speaker 1: they like talking the NFL. But there's more to relationships
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Speaker 1: than just one topic, and it's difficult. But the number
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Speaker 1: one thing that I think any general manager will find
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Speaker 1: ways to relate to their owner is when they say,
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Speaker 1: what do you need? How much more money do you need?
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Speaker 1: And George Peyton was talking to one of their local guys,
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Speaker 1: Michael cliss And, who's been covering the Broncos forever, and
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Speaker 1: he gave a quote basically justifying the Wattle trade of
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Speaker 1: we looked around and where we were picking. No rookie
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Speaker 1: was gonna No guy at that pick at the end
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Speaker 1: of the first round was going to crack the starting
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Speaker 1: lineup for our team currently now obviously a first round
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Speaker 1: draft pick, especially when you're a good team. Any team
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Speaker 1: drafting passed like twenty five, it is going to be
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Speaker 1: difficult for that individual to start for a team. If
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Speaker 1: that team is bringing back a lot of their previous
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Speaker 1: team that just won a bunch of games and it
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Speaker 1: was in the second, third round or the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: it's not easy to crack those lineups. That is true.
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Speaker 1: But part of a draft pick is for the next
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Speaker 1: couple of years. How he said this in his press conference.
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Speaker 1: We draft on what's he going to look like in
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Speaker 1: year three, not day four of training camp year one,
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Speaker 1: because in year three, if that guy could become a
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Speaker 1: starter or an impact starter, he's your best value on
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Speaker 1: the team because he's not making any money. And even
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Speaker 1: though he's a first round pick, if you're getting him
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Speaker 1: in the late twenties or the thirties, it's relatively cheap
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Speaker 1: compared to the rest of your roster and veteran players
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Speaker 1: that are on longer term contracts or second or third contracts,
11:16
Speaker 1: right because those guys then are paid relative to the
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Speaker 1: market at their position. And he said, when we looked
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Speaker 1: at it, no guy was going to start, So we
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Speaker 1: felt more confident in I'll put words in his mouth
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Speaker 1: because he wouldn't say this overpaying for Jalen Waddle. And
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Speaker 1: I looked at the Denver Broncos and a couple of
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Speaker 1: years ago, when Pat Bowlan dies his daughter sell the team.
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Speaker 1: You just never know, Like the Seattle right now, who's
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Speaker 1: going to be their owner? How many humans alive? If
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Speaker 1: one individual is going to be interested in the team
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Speaker 1: twofold liked football, are going to be interested in enough
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Speaker 1: to cut a check to buy a team and then
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Speaker 1: have the money. It is a tiny, tiny list, And
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Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, the NFL does want
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Speaker 1: to avoid these massive, massive groups because it would be
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Speaker 1: pretty easy if like, hey, we will change the rules
12:13
Speaker 1: and you can have up to like five hundred people
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Speaker 1: invest in a team and you just have to name
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Speaker 1: one guy as the managing director. These venture capitalists and
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Speaker 1: Wall Street could get together huge groups. They don't want that,
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Speaker 1: like ideally they like a family to own the squad.
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Speaker 1: But that gets more and more difficult as you see
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Speaker 1: the valuations at the Raiders, who have won zero playoff
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Speaker 1: games and almost twenty five years, are just valued at
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Speaker 1: almost twelve billion dollars. Seattle is in a lucrative market.
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Speaker 1: Is a dominant franchise just won the Super Bowl, and
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Speaker 1: that valuation is gonna be somewhere from ten to twelve
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Speaker 1: billion dollars. So it gets complicated. And then once you
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Speaker 1: pay it, do you have the means to keep paying
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Speaker 1: in buying the players because a lot of people if
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Speaker 1: you overextend yourself, then it's hard to kind of function
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Speaker 1: once you own the team. That's the thing with Balmber.
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Speaker 1: It's like at the time two billion was a ton.
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Speaker 1: Pays it in cash. I remember reading a story that
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Speaker 1: he had to sell like x amount of stock. I
13:13
Speaker 1: think it was actually Applestock ironic because he's a Microsoft guy.
13:16
Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that. That might have been Temper
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Speaker 1: one of the two. I guess that was David Tepper actually,
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Speaker 1: but Balmber whatever, it definitely had to sell some of
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Speaker 1: his Microsoft stock, which would make more sense to just
13:26
Speaker 1: pay cash to Donald Sterling and Vivian Stevano. And he's
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Speaker 1: unfazed because he has so much money. He'll do whatever
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Speaker 1: it takes. There are more limitations in the NBA, right,
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Speaker 1: you have a hard cap. In football, you have a
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Speaker 1: hard cap, but you can spend more money than your
13:46
Speaker 1: actually salary cap and there's no tax on that. So
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Speaker 1: looking right now at the top seven eight teams in
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Speaker 1: just cash spending, the Denver Broncos are number two in
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Speaker 1: the NFL coming up in twenty twenty six. Obviously you
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Speaker 1: bring out Jalen Waddles high salary, that's another player making
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. The difference with the Denver Broncos
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Speaker 1: is they're not paying their quarterback. Currently the forty nine
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Speaker 1: ers are are scheduled to pay more in cash than
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Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. Well part of that is
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Speaker 1: this upcoming year they're gonna pay Brock Party over forty
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. I did the math. That's like two
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Speaker 1: point seven million dollars a game. I'll tell you this though,
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Speaker 1: those politicians in California, they have wet dreams about W
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Speaker 1: two employees like Brock Purty, You're making two point seven
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Speaker 1: million dollars a week and the majority of your games,
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Speaker 1: Like they're pissed off he's going to Australia. They fucking
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Speaker 1: want that game in Los Angeles so they can text
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Speaker 1: a shit out of that paycheck. But number two is
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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. The difference of bo Knicks and Brock
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Speaker 1: Purty salary is like forty four million dollars, so they
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Speaker 1: are not paying a quarterback, yet they're still spending more
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Speaker 1: cash on their roster than teams like the Indianapolis Colts,
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Speaker 1: who are now paying Daniel Jones, the buffalo who are
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Speaker 1: paying Josh Allen a ton, the Dallas Cowboys, who have
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Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the league, the Seattle Seahawks
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Speaker 1: who have a quarterback on a discount but he's still
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Speaker 1: making thirty plus million dollars a year, the Ravens and Alliance,
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Speaker 1: who also have highly paid quarterbacks. So the Broncos are
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Speaker 1: in this world with all these quarterbacks on either max
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Speaker 1: contracts or a guy like Sam Darnold, who would still
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Speaker 1: be on the forty nine ers non brock Perty the
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Speaker 1: second highest paid player on the team behind Trent Williams
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Speaker 1: like thirty three million dollars. So I think the Denver Broncos,
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Speaker 1: the ownership the Waltons, you just never know. It's like, well,
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Speaker 1: they have unlimited money. The Chargers are a good example.
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Speaker 1: They spend one million dollars in rent or excuse me,
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Speaker 1: one dollar a year two rent. So far they just
15:43
Speaker 1: build this glorious practice facility that I've been hearing about
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Speaker 1: for years. It's like they've built they don't spend any
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Speaker 1: cash on their football team. It's like part of the
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Speaker 1: reason that sometimes they come up short against some of
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Speaker 1: these other teams in their own conference. Those owners are
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Speaker 1: willing to spend the money and the Spanos family just isn't.
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Speaker 1: And now you have the Denver Broncos involved in your division.
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Speaker 1: They will do whatever it takes. And if bo Nicks hits,
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Speaker 1: he's got to play better than he did last year.
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Speaker 1: Like they are going to be a force to be
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Speaker 1: reckoned with because their willingness to spend the money. And
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Speaker 1: I think it's much easier for the Broncos to make
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Speaker 1: this move and quote unquote overpay a little bit because
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Speaker 1: they got no problem bringing back the salary. They would
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Speaker 1: do that more often. If they had multiple first round picks,
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Speaker 1: they would have bought another thirty or forty million dollar
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Speaker 1: player that would have been available. So props to the
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Speaker 1: Walmart family for getting involved in the NFL and then
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Speaker 1: being like what does it take to win? If I'm
16:45
Speaker 1: a Bronco fan, I'm like, fuck yeah, this is awesome.
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Speaker 1: And it kind of hit me last night as Steph
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Speaker 1: is there's a short list. Let's just go the internet
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Speaker 1: era from that, like basically twenty twenty to where we
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Speaker 1: sit now. There's a difference between Tom Brady's, you know,
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Speaker 1: the greatest football player of all time. I wouldn't call
19:26
Speaker 1: him the most entertaining player I've ever watched. He was great,
19:31
Speaker 1: but like Michael Vick was probably more entertaining. I think
19:35
Speaker 1: you could make the argument that in my adult life,
19:39
Speaker 1: I would put Steph Curry as the second most entertaining
19:43
Speaker 1: basketball player I've ever seen. I would have Michael Jordan one,
19:48
Speaker 1: and I would have Steph Curry too. And I think
19:51
Speaker 1: you could argue in the last twenty five years, so
19:53
Speaker 1: post Michael Jordan, there would be three athletes, and that
19:57
Speaker 1: would include Steph Curry in a list. Like if they're
20:01
Speaker 1: on television, whether you're a fan of that team, whether
20:04
Speaker 1: you're a fan of that sport, you will stop and watch.
20:09
Speaker 1: To me, like, ultimately, what Steph Curry is, He's one
20:13
Speaker 1: of the most consumer friendly athletes in the history of
20:17
Speaker 1: professional sports because when he is on TV, he is
20:20
Speaker 1: impossible not to watch. We have never seen his style
20:25
Speaker 1: quite like in NBA history. We have seen three point
20:28
Speaker 1: shooters run around like Reggie Miller, but Reggie Miller wasn't
20:31
Speaker 1: close to as good as Steph Curry. And I was
20:34
Speaker 1: thinking Barry Bonds peak juice. Like when Barry Bonds was
20:39
Speaker 1: peak on the cream in the clear, he looked like
20:42
Speaker 1: a mutant. He looked like something out of a movie.
20:46
Speaker 1: Up to bat, and you knew if he got one
20:49
Speaker 1: strike that ball was going four hundred and fifty feet somewhere,
20:53
Speaker 1: and if they were playing in San Francisco, that ball
20:55
Speaker 1: was going in the water. There's never been a baseball
20:57
Speaker 1: player like that in my life before or since that
21:01
Speaker 1: when he was up, and I'm biased, I'm a Giants fan,
21:03
Speaker 1: but even if I wasn't, I would stop and watch
21:06
Speaker 1: his ab And anytime that anyone's ever seen an Instagram
21:10
Speaker 1: or a post about players that witnessed that, they all
21:13
Speaker 1: are like it was. Listen, you can tell me steroids
21:16
Speaker 1: or not. Everyone was on him. No one was doing
21:17
Speaker 1: that because you threw him a strike. The fucking ball
21:20
Speaker 1: was gone. Tiger Woods turned golf into something that was
21:25
Speaker 1: not only not cool, no one cared about unless you
21:28
Speaker 1: were like a rich elite. That's what golf was in
21:30
Speaker 1: the nineties. And when Tiger Woods hit the scene and
21:33
Speaker 1: started kicking the crap out of everybody, whether you like
21:36
Speaker 1: golf or didn't. And that was his most powerful attribute
21:39
Speaker 1: is he brought in all these people that not only
21:42
Speaker 1: didn't like golf, they didn't play golf. They looked down
21:45
Speaker 1: upon it because the people that they knew that were
21:48
Speaker 1: at a country club or played golf were like, fuck them. Right,
21:54
Speaker 1: Yet he drew you to a television screen and watching
21:57
Speaker 1: Steph Curry last night. There is no replacing him. There
22:01
Speaker 1: just isn't. And his game winner, it's not even it's
22:04
Speaker 1: just his stylistically, the way he plays. I do believe
22:08
Speaker 1: in my lifetime easily he's one of the most entertaining athletes.
22:11
Speaker 1: And I do believe, beside Michael Jordan, he's the second
22:14
Speaker 1: most entertaining basketball player in the history of the sport.
22:18
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't know how I would
22:19
Speaker 1: rank him Barry Tiger career. I'd argue Barry pure mutant status.
22:28
Speaker 1: Tiger didn't even bring that to the table. It was like,
22:30
Speaker 1: what is going on? And the answer was Balco thirty
22:35
Speaker 1: four inch bat and a baseball that was gonna fly
22:39
Speaker 1: far if you put anything in the zone. And same
22:42
Speaker 1: thing with Steph. He runs around, he runs around, and
22:44
Speaker 1: if you give him an inch of space, that ball's
22:48
Speaker 1: going in. And it has for a long time. And
22:50
Speaker 1: this Warrior's team is terrible. Obviously, Jimmy Butler got injured
22:54
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, but that moment last night brought
22:58
Speaker 1: me a someone like I'm a basket ball no mad right,
23:01
Speaker 1: I'm much more like the younger generations, like I don't
23:03
Speaker 1: have a team. I grew up loving the Bulls and Michael.
23:07
Speaker 1: Then I got into the Sacramento Kings when they got
23:09
Speaker 1: good with with Weber and Bibbie and Doug Christie and
23:12
Speaker 1: Vladi and that crew, and that organization is like you
23:15
Speaker 1: think the Jets are bad, google the Kings. And I
23:20
Speaker 1: ever since I started working in radio and going to
23:22
Speaker 1: those Warriors games, I just kind of fell in love
23:24
Speaker 1: with that group because there was such a star power
23:30
Speaker 1: element to the way in which they played, and there
23:33
Speaker 1: was such like a cold blooded nature to their game,
23:37
Speaker 1: and you don't get to see it very often anymore.
23:38
Speaker 1: You know, Steph's thirty eight years old, and you know
23:41
Speaker 1: Draymond's coming down the home stretch. Clays long gone, but
23:44
Speaker 1: that was that moment at the end of the game.
23:47
Speaker 1: And Steph's you know who's missed a bunch of time
23:49
Speaker 1: with a knee injury was truly a throwback. And I
23:53
Speaker 1: really don't know, and I'm not trying to be an
23:56
Speaker 1: NBA hater, but like there is just the fame of
23:59
Speaker 1: Lebron who obviously his team's under manned in the playoffs,
24:03
Speaker 1: are probably gonna get smoked, which is not his fault.
24:06
Speaker 1: And the Warriors, if you're listening to this on Friday,
24:07
Speaker 1: could easily lose the Suns, and if they do make
24:10
Speaker 1: play the Thunder, that's a sweep. But there's just the
24:16
Speaker 1: NBA can't replace him. Like I know, the NBA people
24:20
Speaker 1: are trying to shove Wemby down my throat, and I
24:22
Speaker 1: get he's scores forty and twenty five minutes. I just
24:27
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing like a seven to four
24:29
Speaker 1: guy getting casuals constantly to their catch, like Steph Curry,
24:34
Speaker 1: because he's done it now for twenty plus years. You know,
24:38
Speaker 1: Doug Collins had a famous quote back when Michael hit
24:42
Speaker 1: I think the shot against Craig Elow against the Cleveland Cavaliers.
24:46
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the late eighties or
24:48
Speaker 1: early nineties, and it was probably the year before Phil
24:52
Speaker 1: got there, so they it might have been like nineteen
24:54
Speaker 1: eighty nine. And they asked Doug, like, what played you run?
24:58
Speaker 1: He said, get the ball to Michael and get the
25:00
Speaker 1: fuck out of the way. And that's not quite the
25:03
Speaker 1: Curry play because he doesn't want everyone to get out
25:06
Speaker 1: of his way. He likes a little pick and roll
25:08
Speaker 1: with Draymond and they kind of hand the ball off
25:11
Speaker 1: back and forth like they're running an RPO and football,
25:14
Speaker 1: but their play is basically, get the ball to Curry.
25:18
Speaker 1: Draymond helped him get open and let him cook and
25:20
Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest plays in basketball history. And
25:23
Speaker 1: he's been doing it now since Davidson on the national
25:26
Speaker 1: stage against Bill self and you know NBA players, when
25:29
Speaker 1: he was playing with a bunch of guys that look
25:31
Speaker 1: like me and you. So I just I'm gonna miss
25:34
Speaker 1: him because I don't do basketball as much as I
25:37
Speaker 1: used to. But Steph Curry's on and he's cooking, I
25:41
Speaker 1: won't miss a dribble. And I guess before we do
25:46
Speaker 1: a couple of mailbag things. I don't really I was thinking, like,
25:51
Speaker 1: do I have a good fugazi one? This isn't necessarily
25:54
Speaker 1: a fugazi, but one story that went viral was, I mean,
25:58
Speaker 1: what an all time great name? Ozzie Fudd. Just that's
26:02
Speaker 1: an awesome name. She was a number one draft pick
26:06
Speaker 1: for the Dallas w NBA team. Her girlfriend, Paige Becker's
26:10
Speaker 1: who is I think is supposed to be one of
26:12
Speaker 1: the best players in the WNBA. Immediately she was a
26:15
Speaker 1: college star. They both went to Yukon. They're dating, and
26:20
Speaker 1: someone in the in the press tried to ask and
26:22
Speaker 1: the PR Chicks shot it down, which the girl clearly
26:26
Speaker 1: looked ready to answer it, like it's a public relationship.
26:28
Speaker 1: But I got to thinking, like, from a scouting perspective,
26:34
Speaker 1: it's pretty risky. Two now obviously their elite talents, but
26:39
Speaker 1: to and I saw some of her highlights last night,
26:41
Speaker 1: like she fucking looks good. I'd be lying if I
26:46
Speaker 1: if I knew like strengths and weaknesses of the w
26:48
Speaker 1: NBA players. But I do think it's kind of risky.
26:52
Speaker 1: You know, young people, you just kind of get in
26:55
Speaker 1: this honeymoon phase you go to college together. I've known
26:58
Speaker 1: a lot of people that you would have thought, like
26:59
Speaker 1: they're getting married. You know, they're dating in high school,
27:01
Speaker 1: they're dating in college, like that's a lock. And then
27:04
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hear like a year later,
27:06
Speaker 1: two years later, didn't work out. Something happened. Now this
27:10
Speaker 1: is a little different, right, they're playing together, they're around
27:13
Speaker 1: each other all the time, they've been with each other
27:14
Speaker 1: in college. If you get a breakup, this could now
27:18
Speaker 1: They've drafted number one back to back years and I'm not,
27:22
Speaker 1: you know, privy. I guess I imprived. I could just
27:24
Speaker 1: google it. I didn't google it. Safe to say they
27:28
Speaker 1: had one of the worst I don't they do a
27:30
Speaker 1: lottery system too. Clearly, they've been one of the shittiest
27:33
Speaker 1: teams in the league for a couple of years. So
27:36
Speaker 1: the only, uh, you know, direction they need to go
27:38
Speaker 1: is up adding two sweet players. Smart business. But like,
27:43
Speaker 1: what did they break up? You know? In the NBA,
27:47
Speaker 1: there are a lot of dudes run around, a lot
27:49
Speaker 1: of different people. Heard a lot of stories over the years,
27:52
Speaker 1: no few people, you know, no few people, And I've
27:54
Speaker 1: heard some stories that are quite entertaining. But I wouldn't
27:57
Speaker 1: say that is the most monogamous operation going on in
28:03
Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association can't speak to the WNBA. Clearly,
28:08
Speaker 1: these girls are as the WNBA's popularity. As Kaitlin Clark
28:11
Speaker 1: comes back, they're gonna have a lot of options. Risky move,
28:16
Speaker 1: that'd be my take. You get a bad breakup, locker
28:20
Speaker 1: room dynamics. We'll see how it plays out. Maybe they're
28:24
Speaker 1: just destined to be together and they go on to
28:26
Speaker 1: win championships. But if they don't and they break up,
28:30
Speaker 1: does one of them have to get traded? What if
28:32
Speaker 1: the breakup so bad, someone gets caught cheating or just
28:35
Speaker 1: doing something scandalous and the other one demands a trade
28:39
Speaker 1: because they want to get rid of them or they
28:40
Speaker 1: want to get away. I just I read flagged that situation,
28:46
Speaker 1: rooting for him, rooting for him. The other thing is
28:49
Speaker 1: that fugazi you know years ago, within the last five years,
28:53
Speaker 1: health and wellness so big. Everyone's talking peptides and golp
28:57
Speaker 1: ones and green smoothies and protein diets. You know, it
29:02
Speaker 1: just hits you in the face. The youth isn't drinking
29:04
Speaker 1: booze as much. All I ever hear is people don't
29:07
Speaker 1: drink as much. And then whenever I'm around other people
29:10
Speaker 1: in social settings, everyone's always boozing, So maybe I don't
29:14
Speaker 1: know these people. And I've never been the biggest drinker
29:17
Speaker 1: by any means, like don't drink during the week. I
29:20
Speaker 1: can go a month or two without touching alcohol, especially
29:23
Speaker 1: if I'm not in certain situations. But every time I
29:26
Speaker 1: always hear no one drinks. Then you go to a
29:28
Speaker 1: wedding or you got people in their twenties and thirties
29:31
Speaker 1: just boozing left and right. But it was like, hey,
29:35
Speaker 1: the sauna is really good for you. I think I've
29:38
Speaker 1: mentioned this before. Like most gyms, the gym I was
29:41
Speaker 1: going to just had a normal sauna, just like when
29:43
Speaker 1: I lived in the Bay Area, the Bay Club just
29:45
Speaker 1: had a normal sauna. Right. You had the rocks. If
29:48
Speaker 1: no one's looking, you pour some water in the rocks.
29:50
Speaker 1: You get that thing nice and hot, and you gotta
29:52
Speaker 1: sit in there for twenty to thirty minutes to get
29:54
Speaker 1: elite sweat. Well, my gym does bigg remodel and they
29:58
Speaker 1: did the infrared sauna, which has been all the you know,
30:02
Speaker 1: the rage and everyone's talking about online. So it's like, okay,
30:05
Speaker 1: let's check this. This thing is like you are in
30:08
Speaker 1: the Serengetti. The difference between just your old school regular
30:13
Speaker 1: rock sauna and the infrared sauna with the panels against
30:17
Speaker 1: the wall that I gets pierced inside you is I
30:22
Speaker 1: would say. When I was doing it a lot the
30:23
Speaker 1: old school sauna, I could stay in there pretty easily
30:26
Speaker 1: thirty minutes this one, and especially if you're out of
30:29
Speaker 1: a little bit of a rotation, which because of my
30:32
Speaker 1: main man Jack, I don't have a consistent like able
30:35
Speaker 1: have enough time to go work out and do sauna, shower,
30:38
Speaker 1: maybe a steam and then a cold plunge, you know,
30:40
Speaker 1: could take a while, so I'm not as consistent anymore.
30:43
Speaker 1: You get in the infrared sauna, I would say, by
30:46
Speaker 1: ten minutes, you're thinking this is the hottest thing I've
30:47
Speaker 1: ever failed in my life, and you are just you
30:50
Speaker 1: feel like every tox and every ounce of sweat is
30:53
Speaker 1: out of your body. If I can make it fifteen minutes,
30:56
Speaker 1: I feel like I've accomplished something. So I'd say this
31:00
Speaker 1: fugazi is those old school sonas kind of weak. Let's
31:17
Speaker 1: bang out a couple male bad questions at John Middlecoff
31:20
Speaker 1: at John middlecoff as the Instagram firing those dmsgaary questions
31:23
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. I think Sonny Styles should
31:26
Speaker 1: go number two. My philosophy would be, Hey, I'm drafting
31:30
Speaker 1: my quarterback of the defense in twenty six, and I
31:33
Speaker 1: will get the quarterback of the future in twenty seven.
31:37
Speaker 1: He's speaking about the Jets. I understand talking middle linebacker
31:41
Speaker 1: at two sounds crazy, but in this draft class, I
31:45
Speaker 1: just think it makes some sense. I I couldn't agree
31:51
Speaker 1: with you more than it should be on the table,
31:53
Speaker 1: because to me, the conversation would be between the two
31:58
Speaker 1: pass rushers and him. If you believe, like think about this,
32:02
Speaker 1: if you could get Fred Warner, if you get Luke Keighley,
32:04
Speaker 1: you're telling me those guys aren't every bit as valuable
32:07
Speaker 1: as an elite pass rusher. And how many guys that
32:10
Speaker 1: you draft actually become the elite pass rusher. Sometimes they do,
32:14
Speaker 1: and sometimes they're just kind of average. Now, there's no
32:17
Speaker 1: guarantee that Sonny Styles becomes Luke Keighley or Fred Warner,
32:22
Speaker 1: but if you believe he can, and I think a
32:24
Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL believe he can, he
32:27
Speaker 1: should be in the mix for the number two overall pick,
32:29
Speaker 1: because if he does become that and in four or
32:33
Speaker 1: five years, all of a sudden, you know, the Jets
32:36
Speaker 1: have or whoever, let's say he falls to the Saints
32:40
Speaker 1: or wherever, the Giants, they have the best middle linebacker
32:43
Speaker 1: in football. There'd be a chance, you know, if Fernando
32:49
Speaker 1: Mendoza is not a star, it's like he's the best
32:50
Speaker 1: player in this draft. But they won't. They'll take a
32:54
Speaker 1: pass rusher, which I think You've got to be very
32:57
Speaker 1: careful about positional value in a draft. This draft's viewed really,
33:02
Speaker 1: really bad. It is. It is not viewed well compared
33:07
Speaker 1: to previous drafts in terms of the talent. Now the
33:09
Speaker 1: high you know, Sunny Styles, big time prospect, Reese, big
33:13
Speaker 1: time prospect, Jeremiah loved, big time prospect. But the receivers
33:17
Speaker 1: and most drafts wouldn't sniff the top ten. You know,
33:20
Speaker 1: the tackles are all solid. I no one's acting like
33:25
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson's walking down that aisle. Literally just got married
33:27
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Looked pretty cool online. Will you old Mendoza
33:32
Speaker 1: to the Caleb Williams rookie standard twenty touchdowns, five interceptions
33:37
Speaker 1: was a quote atrocious rookie year. In your words, you
33:41
Speaker 1: can throw the stats at me all you want. I
33:43
Speaker 1: think we all agree. If you watched him play, you went, yeah,
33:46
Speaker 1: he's got some physical attributes, but he was not a
33:50
Speaker 1: good rookie player, as most rookie quarterbacks are not, and
33:55
Speaker 1: last year, like he was a completely different player. Are
33:58
Speaker 1: we not agreeing on that because you said cam Ward
34:01
Speaker 1: got a pass? Curious if Fernando will too, Like, if
34:05
Speaker 1: you play well, you get credit. I watched cam wore,
34:07
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was that good. You know, I
34:09
Speaker 1: think he can be good, but I didn't think he
34:12
Speaker 1: was that good last year. Now his team was a mess,
34:15
Speaker 1: No different Caleb, Like, I'm not blaming Caleb. His coach
34:19
Speaker 1: was a joke. The organization was in shambles, so it's
34:24
Speaker 1: not but he wasn't that good, Like you cannot be good,
34:27
Speaker 1: and a lot of it not your fault. Maybe that's
34:31
Speaker 1: a better way to curb it. He wasn't that good
34:33
Speaker 1: and it's not his fault. You can throw stats at
34:35
Speaker 1: me all you want. I think every team in the
34:38
Speaker 1: league worth their salt would have signed up to play
34:41
Speaker 1: the Bears in Caleb Williams as a rookie. So you
34:44
Speaker 1: can give me a stats like I don't it's not
34:46
Speaker 1: a stat league. It's pretty clear when a guy's playing
34:49
Speaker 1: good or bad. I think we all, especially a quarterback
34:52
Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence. You watched him this year was dramatically
34:54
Speaker 1: better than he's been. He's had some years where he's
34:56
Speaker 1: had some solid stats, but he was really good this year.
35:00
Speaker 1: Just watch the guy play. What is the super Bowl
35:06
Speaker 1: of golf? I don't watch or play golf, but I've
35:08
Speaker 1: always wondered this because there are so many different events
35:11
Speaker 1: in the golfing world. Is the Masters, the US Open
35:14
Speaker 1: or something else? And could you do a comparison of
35:17
Speaker 1: the golf season to the NFL season so a casual
35:20
Speaker 1: like me could understand it's one. The Masters is the
35:25
Speaker 1: biggest event of the year. I think the golf season.
35:29
Speaker 1: My wife, we have the PGA Tour on every single week,
35:32
Speaker 1: had it on today, Harbortown in the background. She just
35:36
Speaker 1: doesn't quite How do they play every week? I'm like, well,
35:38
Speaker 1: just play every week. The sun's out, they play, and
35:42
Speaker 1: you know, depending on the event this fields are better.
35:45
Speaker 1: But we know for a fact the four majors, the players,
35:48
Speaker 1: and some of the elevated events which pay more money,
35:51
Speaker 1: like this week. I think I read a stat Like
35:54
Speaker 1: four or five years ago this same event, the total
35:57
Speaker 1: purse was eight million. This week it's and the winner
36:01
Speaker 1: gets like over four million dollars. So it's not comparable
36:05
Speaker 1: to football or basketball or baseball because they have a
36:07
Speaker 1: regular season and then they go in a postseason. You know,
36:11
Speaker 1: the Masters, the US Open, the Open. They are during
36:14
Speaker 1: the golf season. So some events matter more than others.
36:21
Speaker 1: They all kind of matter because when you you know,
36:24
Speaker 1: winning PGA Tour events goes on your resume to be
36:27
Speaker 1: a legendary player. You also win a lot of money
36:31
Speaker 1: the way these guys make their money, even if it's
36:34
Speaker 1: not a major. If you win this week at Harbortown,
36:36
Speaker 1: you win over four million dollars. And let's say you're
36:39
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler or Jordan Speith, then you're worth more to
36:42
Speaker 1: under Armour, to Nike, to Taylor Made, to you know,
36:46
Speaker 1: whatever clubs you're playing. But the season starts officially next year.
36:50
Speaker 1: It's gonna start, like, you know, in February, and it
36:53
Speaker 1: basically goes till football starts September first. But then there's
36:57
Speaker 1: a fall series, which is kind of like the preseason.
37:01
Speaker 1: But during the season you get some big regular events,
37:04
Speaker 1: and then you get the super Bowl, and then you
37:07
Speaker 1: get some more big regular events, and then you get
37:09
Speaker 1: like the wild Card Weekend, which is which would be
37:15
Speaker 1: the PGA Championship. Then you get a couple more big
37:17
Speaker 1: events like Memorial some of these other tournaments, and then
37:21
Speaker 1: depending like if you're American, you would say the US
37:24
Speaker 1: Open is the conference championship. If you were a European
37:28
Speaker 1: you would say the Open where they play in the
37:30
Speaker 1: UK or Ireland would be the conference championship. So for me,
37:35
Speaker 1: the US Open be the conference championship, and the Open
37:38
Speaker 1: would be like the divisional route, but they're all throughout
37:42
Speaker 1: the regular season. It's probably more like soccer that way.
37:46
Speaker 1: Think with golf, it's just you can just play every week.
37:49
Speaker 1: The television inventory, I don't really think it parallels any
37:53
Speaker 1: other sport that like in terms of the cadence in
37:57
Speaker 1: which the season goes. I find it really frustrating that
38:01
Speaker 1: is increasingly difficult to watch any games at a bar
38:05
Speaker 1: because it's on Prime, Peacock or some other streaming. Do
38:08
Speaker 1: you think this could lead to long a long term
38:12
Speaker 1: decline for sports fans hanging out of bars. I have
38:16
Speaker 1: a buddy who covers the Warriors and he was flying
38:19
Speaker 1: down to southern California and I text him my because
38:22
Speaker 1: this guy's just dialed in. I was like, I didn't
38:25
Speaker 1: know it's on Amazon Prime. He's like, you know what's
38:27
Speaker 1: funny is I'm at the airport about to fly to
38:30
Speaker 1: LA just had a beer and the playing game wasn't on,
38:34
Speaker 1: And this is I go back to the football thing.
38:37
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but Thursday night football do bars
38:41
Speaker 1: not put that on? Obviously? You know when Netflix has Christmas,
38:45
Speaker 1: bars are closed. But I do believe the football games
38:49
Speaker 1: make the televisions. I think some of these other events
38:53
Speaker 1: are more difficult for the sports bars. Now if I
38:57
Speaker 1: ran a sports bar, let's say we ran Johnny's. Like,
39:01
Speaker 1: it's kind of their job to have all these things,
39:05
Speaker 1: and I think there are some complications with the costs.
39:07
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know, because I remember with the
39:10
Speaker 1: Direct TV they used to have to pay something different.
39:13
Speaker 1: Some of you guys listening that have worked at them,
39:15
Speaker 1: that own them, that know how they operate, may think
39:19
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot saying this, but I would be pretty
39:22
Speaker 1: dialed in, like on this day, these are my events.
39:25
Speaker 1: I would have someone running it, like what are the
39:28
Speaker 1: big events, whether it's European soccer, whether it's the Masters,
39:32
Speaker 1: whether it's because non football, there's always random shit going on.
39:35
Speaker 1: Hey get Cubs Phillies over there, And obviously, depending on
39:37
Speaker 1: if you're in the bar area, you get a couple
39:39
Speaker 1: of Giants games on. Hey we got a playoff basketball
39:42
Speaker 1: game on, let's get that on. A couple of TVs
39:45
Speaker 1: that to me's on the sports bard to figure that out. Now,
39:47
Speaker 1: there's also some questions about the internet because you've got
39:50
Speaker 1: to stream those. So can they get fiber internet. Yeah,
39:54
Speaker 1: it's obviously more complicated than just having the cable box
39:56
Speaker 1: and just the games on ESPN. But those days are done,
40:01
Speaker 1: Like we have to acknowledge we're never going back to that.
40:05
Speaker 1: Those days are done. The precipitous drop off of cable
40:10
Speaker 1: subscribers grows exponentially every year, like it's in rapid decline.
40:17
Speaker 1: It's not one of those like slow drip, slow drip.
40:20
Speaker 1: Like I got a new roof, probably I don't know
40:23
Speaker 1: six within the last six months, maybe even less than that. Now.
40:27
Speaker 1: Part of it was when I bought the house, the
40:29
Speaker 1: roof was twenty seven years old. It's like, hey, let's
40:32
Speaker 1: just well, let's just live in it, remodel the inside,
40:35
Speaker 1: and we'll figure that out. Well, then you look up
40:38
Speaker 1: we have crazy rainstorms during the winter and you can
40:42
Speaker 1: see the leak and you're like, okay, it's it's probably
40:44
Speaker 1: time to do this. But if it doesn't rain that
40:47
Speaker 1: much in Arizona, it would have taken a long time
40:49
Speaker 1: to like go all the way across the living room,
40:52
Speaker 1: but you could see a couple feet of it, like, oh,
40:54
Speaker 1: it's probably a problem, right, it's not probably, it is
40:58
Speaker 1: a problem. We gotta get this fixed. But most people
41:02
Speaker 1: might not have noticed it at first, but a couple
41:03
Speaker 1: of rainstorms it would have grown really really big. To me,
41:08
Speaker 1: it's non stop rain on the cable world, and that
41:11
Speaker 1: impacts the way people my age forty and under are consuming.
41:17
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, it's maybe a little more difficult
41:20
Speaker 1: for my mom every time I go to my mom's
41:22
Speaker 1: house to watch Netflix. You know, everyone always says, so difficult,
41:26
Speaker 1: It's not that fucking difficult. Can you text message? Can
41:29
Speaker 1: you get on your computer? You should be able to
41:31
Speaker 1: have your kids set up your apps on your television.
41:34
Speaker 1: But the sports bars, they're gonna have to adapt quicker
41:38
Speaker 1: than they have because the days of just being easy
41:43
Speaker 1: are over question for the bag what NFL team would
41:48
Speaker 1: be likely to move to another city? It's to me
41:54
Speaker 1: the movement's probably done, But so is this a hypothetical
41:58
Speaker 1: because you use the Jets. They would never leave New
42:01
Speaker 1: York City ever, Like I think if they could have
42:06
Speaker 1: a redo, would they have put Jacksonville somewhere else. I've
42:14
Speaker 1: heard people discuss over the years that, like you know,
42:17
Speaker 1: Roger looks back on that, they kind of wish they
42:19
Speaker 1: could get a redo. I mean, that's why we talked
42:21
Speaker 1: about Jacksonville potentially moving to the UK. But no big
42:27
Speaker 1: city team is ever leaving right, zero chance. Like Oakland
42:35
Speaker 1: Vegas was an upgrade, right, San Diego to LA was
42:38
Speaker 1: an upgrade. I'm just talking financially. Saint Louis to LA
42:42
Speaker 1: massive upgrade. The Bears are just technically moving down the street.
42:46
Speaker 1: But like, you can't move cities in this day and
42:49
Speaker 1: age to smaller markets, so you would never leave New
42:53
Speaker 1: York City. I enjoyed the response to Lebron Jordan debate.
42:59
Speaker 1: Why can't people just appreciate greatness? I'm twenty five. When
43:02
Speaker 1: Tom played, I hated him, but now he's retired. I
43:04
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say he was a badass. I
43:07
Speaker 1: also don't like Mahomes, but what he's done has been undeniable.
43:11
Speaker 1: I think you appreciate, you know, when you're in it
43:14
Speaker 1: as a fan, you know, I hate the Lakers. I
43:16
Speaker 1: actually my hate with sports is kind of I try
43:20
Speaker 1: to keep driving it, but it's not quite the same
43:22
Speaker 1: because they got Luca. I kind of enjoyed watching him play.
43:26
Speaker 1: But I used to hate Kobe Bryant. I mean, I
43:29
Speaker 1: love Shaq, hated Kobe. I just hated Kobe. And then
43:31
Speaker 1: as he got older and you get older and you
43:34
Speaker 1: kind of look at life differently, you kind of start
43:35
Speaker 1: to appreciate him. And then he retired and it's like,
43:38
Speaker 1: I fucking love Kobe Bryant. Every time he would talk
43:41
Speaker 1: in interviews, it's like, kind, I actually really admire this guy.
43:45
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes as you get older, there are
43:47
Speaker 1: things about like if you hated Tom Brady, and as
43:52
Speaker 1: you get older in life, things that you want to
43:54
Speaker 1: accomplish professionally and be successful, you go, God, there are
43:58
Speaker 1: a lot of things that Tom brought to the table
43:59
Speaker 1: that I admire because I want to try to bring
44:03
Speaker 1: that to the table. Right In terms of work, ethic, consistency,
44:08
Speaker 1: just dedication to craft. You know, it's hard not to
44:12
Speaker 1: That was my thing with Kobe. It's like, God, you
44:15
Speaker 1: watched that twenty twelve, or maybe it's two thousand and
44:18
Speaker 1: eight Team USA doc. Guy's kind of a badass not
44:24
Speaker 1: disputing it. If I was in I probably would have
44:26
Speaker 1: made fun of Sacramento too. My name is Kane, and
44:29
Speaker 1: I'm pursuing becoming an NFL or college football analyst or
44:32
Speaker 1: an NFL scout. I've been following your podcast for some
44:35
Speaker 1: time and looking to get my foot in the door.
44:37
Speaker 1: Was wondering if you needed some assistance with it, or
44:40
Speaker 1: looking for a writer of any platforms. Even any advice
44:43
Speaker 1: would be appreciative. I appreciate everyone who always reaches out
44:46
Speaker 1: to get involved. We got a pretty full team right
44:48
Speaker 1: now if you want to get into the scouting world.
44:51
Speaker 1: I actually ran into an interview the other day. Someone
44:55
Speaker 1: sent it to me of the GM of Texas Tech,
44:58
Speaker 1: and he had worked in the NFL as a scout,
45:01
Speaker 1: and I think the GM of the Nebraska Cornhuskers is
45:04
Speaker 1: a former scout. I think there are a ton of
45:06
Speaker 1: scouts now doing these GM jobs because they pay a
45:09
Speaker 1: ton of money. Some of these guys are signing like
45:11
Speaker 1: three year, two million dollar contracts. You're not getting that
45:14
Speaker 1: scout in the SEC for the Jags, you know, And
45:19
Speaker 1: I think the opportunity in college football to get your
45:23
Speaker 1: foot in the door. I say this to any young
45:24
Speaker 1: person if you are at a decent size school, definitely
45:28
Speaker 1: one of the power for schools in the Big twelve,
45:30
Speaker 1: the ACC, the SEC in the pack. It's not the
45:33
Speaker 1: Pac ten, the Big ten. God that hurts my heart
45:36
Speaker 1: is you got an opportunity all these all these programs
45:39
Speaker 1: have scouting departments that did not exist when I was
45:43
Speaker 1: coming up the ranks. So it's never been easier. It's
45:46
Speaker 1: hard to get in the NFL, but the feeder system
45:49
Speaker 1: of the NFL has always been college. But now it's
45:51
Speaker 1: way easier to get involved in college. I finally have
45:54
Speaker 1: a quality question to ask you. My father and I
45:56
Speaker 1: are discussing Mendoza since we're both He wants Cousins to
46:03
Speaker 1: start the first eight games, then Mendoza can take the reins.
46:07
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think Mendoza needs to start right away.
46:11
Speaker 1: What is the point in asking Kirk Cousins to start
46:13
Speaker 1: the year when the whole world knows he's gonna get
46:16
Speaker 1: benched for Mendoza at some point. Why not just start
46:19
Speaker 1: Mendoza the entire time? Curious your thoughts, you know, I
46:23
Speaker 1: think Kubiak had to backtrack it a little bit. He
46:27
Speaker 1: said that the owners meetings, ideally a rookie quarterback sits,
46:31
Speaker 1: and then I think they land Kirk Cousins and people
46:34
Speaker 1: go okay, so he's sitting for a year. And then
46:37
Speaker 1: I think they backtracked this week with Spytech coming out
46:40
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, the best guy's gonna start, because you
46:43
Speaker 1: spend all this money on your guys. If Cousins beats
46:47
Speaker 1: him out, he beats him out right. If he's better
46:49
Speaker 1: in training camp, you got It's an easy transition to
46:52
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Fernando, you just keep grinding, keep getting better,
46:55
Speaker 1: keep learning the offense, and then you can play. Start.
46:59
Speaker 1: But if Fernando Doz is the better quarterback and it's
47:02
Speaker 1: clear to gent Bowers, Crosby, the coaches, he's gonna start.
47:08
Speaker 1: To me, I think this is a true one. You
47:10
Speaker 1: just let it organically happen. I don't think you need
47:13
Speaker 1: to cook the books. You go into training camp or
47:15
Speaker 1: you go into offseason. Cousins gets the one mendozes get
47:18
Speaker 1: the two, and as he learns the offense, maybe you
47:22
Speaker 1: rotate him a little bit. And then obviously, as you
47:25
Speaker 1: get into training camp and the pads come on and
47:27
Speaker 1: the bullets start flying a little bit in practice, you
47:29
Speaker 1: can kind of I don't know if you go fifty
47:31
Speaker 1: to fifty right away unless Mendoz has earned that, because
47:35
Speaker 1: you can't just give him fifty fifty right away if
47:36
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the playbook or anything. But by all
47:38
Speaker 1: accounts like that's gonna be one of his strengths. So
47:41
Speaker 1: if by the time training camp comes around, he knows
47:43
Speaker 1: all the plays and he feels comfortable in the huddle,
47:47
Speaker 1: because the other thing is he's been a guy that's
47:48
Speaker 1: been a shotgun, he's gonna have to go under center.
47:50
Speaker 1: There is gonna be a learning curve. But if we
47:53
Speaker 1: are into late August and he's out playing them, I
47:57
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't even think it'll be
47:59
Speaker 1: a decision. I just think Mendoz is gonna play. Do
48:04
Speaker 1: you think NBC will lose Sunday Night Football than Netflix
48:07
Speaker 1: or Amazon? I think these networks are in major trouble.
48:13
Speaker 1: I saw was the Wall Street Journal someone forwarded to me,
48:17
Speaker 1: I kind of forget. I can't remember where I saw this,
48:20
Speaker 1: but I was reading a headline that said the NFL
48:24
Speaker 1: is looking to double their media deal, and in the
48:30
Speaker 1: article it maybe it was Front Office Sports. Then I
48:33
Speaker 1: think the networks were hoping it would go up between
48:36
Speaker 1: like twenty five to forty percent, twenty five ideally on
48:39
Speaker 1: the low end, if Netflix and Amazon want to get
48:44
Speaker 1: aggressive and the owners don't just give loyalty out of
48:49
Speaker 1: the goodness of their heart for what CBS, Fox and
48:53
Speaker 1: NBC have helped them build over the last couple decades
48:56
Speaker 1: in terms of the money machine that football is now,
49:00
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure they're going to do. They have
49:02
Speaker 1: no shot. If Netflix and Apple and or an Apple
49:10
Speaker 1: and Amazon wanted it all, they could offer numbers these
49:13
Speaker 1: other people couldn't do. And if someone once told me,
49:16
Speaker 1: if a network one of the main networks lost football,
49:19
Speaker 1: they would potentially go. If CBS lost football, they would
49:22
Speaker 1: They'd be fucked, They'd be done. You know, Fox still
49:29
Speaker 1: has college football. I guess CBS does too, but I
49:33
Speaker 1: don't know if college football could carry you given what
49:35
Speaker 1: the NFL brings to the table. So I how they
49:39
Speaker 1: spread it out. I think some of the older owners
49:41
Speaker 1: still like being on traditional television. But it's pretty clear
49:45
Speaker 1: where we're headed. And if you know Netflix has dip
49:49
Speaker 1: their toe, how aggressive do they want to get? What
49:51
Speaker 1: if Netflix is like, hey, we want the we want
49:55
Speaker 1: the Sunday Morning International game. Give us a Sunday Morning
49:58
Speaker 1: International game. What's it worth to you, guys, X, We'll
50:03
Speaker 1: pay it. Because if Amazon or Netflix get into a
50:08
Speaker 1: bidding war with some of these networks, it's not a
50:11
Speaker 1: fair fight, you know. It's like it's it's not apples
50:16
Speaker 1: to apples. So that that's where I think people keep
50:20
Speaker 1: complaining about these streaming networks. You just got to follow
50:24
Speaker 1: the money. And it's like the NFL. So what would
50:27
Speaker 1: you do if you were them? It's like, wait, we're
50:30
Speaker 1: getting a dollar, but we could get two. We're getting
50:33
Speaker 1: one hundred grand, but we could get two hundred grand.
50:36
Speaker 1: We're getting ten million, but we or ten billion, but
50:38
Speaker 1: we could get twenty billion. We all would do the
50:41
Speaker 1: same thing because we're beholden to the past. I'm on Netflix,
50:48
Speaker 1: I'm on an Apple podcast in Spotify. Twenty years ago,
50:52
Speaker 1: none of this existed. I'm not like whenever I see
50:55
Speaker 1: a young guy that got into digital is like, I'm
50:57
Speaker 1: still open to going back to radio. Are you an idiot?
51:02
Speaker 1: How would you be open to going back to radio?
51:05
Speaker 1: It pains me because, like guys, you're holding on to
51:08
Speaker 1: your youth. And I loved radio as a kid as
51:10
Speaker 1: much as any human being alive loved it. Listen to
51:14
Speaker 1: it twenty four to seven. I used to have a
51:16
Speaker 1: little radio in junior high, in high school, and definitely
51:19
Speaker 1: even probably fifth sixth grade, right next to my bed,
51:22
Speaker 1: and I would listen that thing every single night, from
51:25
Speaker 1: music to love line to sports talk radio. I listened
51:29
Speaker 1: to that Yellow walkman. I loved radio. But if you've
51:34
Speaker 1: done both at this point in time and you're still
51:36
Speaker 1: like I still love to go back to radios, like guys,
51:40
Speaker 1: come on, man, It's like it's like the guy a blockbuster,
51:43
Speaker 1: like I still want to give out videos as Netflix's
51:46
Speaker 1: streaming stuff. Come on, guys, move on, get with the times.
51:51
Speaker 1: And that's where I think the NFL is in this
51:52
Speaker 1: weird spot. Is they still got some Jerry Jones and
51:55
Speaker 1: Robert Crafts who I think still probably hold the relationship
52:01
Speaker 1: with you know, CBS and Fox and NBC in high
52:06
Speaker 1: regard and its importance. But I can't imagine some of
52:09
Speaker 1: these younger owners, and hell, some of them are like, hey,
52:12
Speaker 1: just look at the numbers. Are we sure Matt Naggie
52:15
Speaker 1: is a good offensive coordinator? Looking at Kansas City offense
52:18
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years after Eric Banemy left,
52:20
Speaker 1: the offense has not been remotely the same. And when
52:22
Speaker 1: Naggy was the head coach in Chicago, that offense was stagnant, boring.
52:25
Speaker 1: I personally don't see it with Naggy. I'm biased love
52:29
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy. Uh Andy Reeves the offensive coordinator in Kansas City,
52:35
Speaker 1: like he calls the place now he lets he's let
52:38
Speaker 1: Eric beenemy and Naggy call plays throughout games. But like
52:43
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is not a CEO head coach, the offense
52:47
Speaker 1: is his baby. They had injuries, Mahomes didn't play that well.
52:51
Speaker 1: They didn't win a couple of Super Bowls when Naggi
52:53
Speaker 1: was there. I would say the thing that did him
52:57
Speaker 1: in in uh in Chicago's his quarterback was Mitch tr Whisky.
53:03
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Naggi's Bill Walsh, but mister Whisky's. I mean,
53:09
Speaker 1: what was he supposed to do? So I think it's
53:13
Speaker 1: gonna work. I think he's gonna be good. I again biased.
53:18
Speaker 1: It's not like I don't talk to him that much anymore,
53:20
Speaker 1: but we used to be pretty good buddies, and uh,
53:24
Speaker 1: I think that's a good fit with their personnel. I
53:26
Speaker 1: would expect the Giants offense to be good. If I'm wrong,
53:29
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit it. See I always
53:32
Speaker 1: I'm like the anti journal I let you know my biases.
53:37
Speaker 1: I like this guy, I don't like this guy. Honestly,
53:40
Speaker 1: most of these guys, like I said, I met Brandon Staley,
53:42
Speaker 1: nice guy, honestly, kind of felt bad for a split second.
53:46
Speaker 1: I was like, I probably went a little too far
53:50
Speaker 1: a lot a couple of times. That's why I talked
53:52
Speaker 1: for a living. You know, sometimes you can't help yourself.
53:55
Speaker 1: But we we don't hide things here, not sleeping with
53:58
Speaker 1: any of these coaches. But yeah, we will. We'll reconvene
54:06
Speaker 1: next week and we will get ready for this draft,
54:09
Speaker 1: which just needs to get here. This is gonna be
54:11
Speaker 1: a draft. By the time we get to like the
54:15
Speaker 1: third round, people were like, who who my team is? Draft?
54:20
Speaker 1: What you could argue by the time we get in
54:22
Speaker 1: the late first round, there are gonna be some names
54:25
Speaker 1: like this guy won the first round. Who's this guy?
54:29
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some random picks the top ten. There'll
54:32
Speaker 1: probably be a random guy relative to the mocks, but
54:35
Speaker 1: most of them. I don't think it's gonna come out
54:37
Speaker 1: of left field, like maybe like the corner from Tennessee
54:40
Speaker 1: or LSU goes to the Chiefs or something, or the
54:44
Speaker 1: who knows right something something like that. But yeah, I
54:48
Speaker 1: think by the time we get to the twenties, you
54:50
Speaker 1: better buckle up because you're gonna see names. Even if
54:53
Speaker 1: you love college football like myself and follow this stuff.
54:57
Speaker 1: Like everyone was saying, this guy's can go in the
54:58
Speaker 1: third round. But that type of draft we're about to
55:01
Speaker 1: get involved with, which is kind of entertaining because you
55:04
Speaker 1: could just have crazy, crazy Uh stuff happened that no
55:08
Speaker 1: one saw coming. Uh we we will, Uh we'll talk
55:11
Speaker 1: on Monday, y'all do a podcast Monday afternoon, a little draft.
55:15
Speaker 1: Just get the get the juices flowing. Talk soon Audios.
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