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NFL 3–0 and 0–3 Check-In and WNBA Playoff Drama · The Daily Play With Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 2: So we are three weeks into the NFL season.
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  Speaker 1: There's five undefeated teams and five teams that are winless.
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  Speaker 1: At the top of the heap, you have the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: you have the Chiefs, you have the Niners, the Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: and the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: They are all 3-0.
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  Speaker 1: Then you have the Bucs, the Chargers, the Dolphins, Texans,
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  Speaker 1: and Titans, who are all 0-3. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you the best best team and the worst worst
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  Speaker 1: team from each group, starting with the winners.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the best team to me is.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly between the Chiefs and Bills, obviously two teams that
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  Speaker 1: have a recent history of winning and signature wins already
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  Speaker 1: this season. Both of those things are true of the
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  Speaker 1: Niners as well, but injury and age concerns make me
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  Speaker 1: a little more weary of them.
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  Speaker 2: To put them at the top.
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  Speaker 1: It's tempting to just take the Raiders as the worst
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  Speaker 1: best team because of their track record and expectations around them.
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  Speaker 1: But Kirk Cousins has done a really good job and
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  Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from that group. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to say the Vikings, while they have more talent
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  Speaker 1: offensively in Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, their quarterback situation makes.
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  Speaker 2: Me very weary as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really trust the long-term success for them
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  Speaker 1: this season. So the best team, 3-0 team I am
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  Speaker 1: going with is the Bills, and the worst 3-0 team
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  Speaker 1: I am going with is the Vikings, now for the
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  Speaker 1: 0-3 teams. Some have maybe already started making off-season plans
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  Speaker 1: because things in the NFL move very quickly when you
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  Speaker 1: start off 0-3.
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  Speaker 2: The Bucks and the.
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  Speaker 1: Texans have not.
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  Speaker 2: Taken advantage of the situation.
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  Speaker 1: They have playoff experience and weaker divisions, but Baker Mayfield's
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  Speaker 1: current injury might be too much for Tampa to overcome.
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  Speaker 1: The Texans have understandable losses to the Bills and Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: but they needed to beat the Colts division rival last week.
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  Speaker 2: That did not happen.
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  Speaker 1: Also, you have the Titans who haven't been able to
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  Speaker 1: generate much offense at all. Robert Sala's group did keep
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  Speaker 1: the Giants out of the end zone last week, but
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  Speaker 1: they lost 12-7 to New York on four Giants field goals.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be able to score. And we spent
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  Speaker 1: some time talking about the Chargers. They're a huge, massive disappointment,
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  Speaker 1: but They tend to underachieve anyway. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: you have the Dolphins who may not get a win
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  Speaker 1: this season. So the best 0-3 team, I think, is
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  Speaker 1: the Texans. They don't have a lot of time to
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  Speaker 1: turn this around. It's very difficult when you start 0-3
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  Speaker 1: to turn things around. We have seen that with the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals for the last couple years, but I still think
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  Speaker 1: that they have the potential.
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  Speaker 2: And the worst 0-3 team, and therefore the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Team in the league, is my Miami Dolphins with losses
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  Speaker 1: to the Raiders, to the Niners, and... They are off
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  Speaker 1: to a brutal start under the new head coach, Jeff Halfley.
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  Speaker 1: The struggles through three games are pretty astonishing. Obviously, they
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  Speaker 1: are fourth in the AFC East. They have scored 36 points,
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  Speaker 1: which is 31st in the NFL. 36 points total. They
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  Speaker 1: have the worst point differential in the league. They have
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  Speaker 1: allowed nine sacks and have zero sacks, the worst in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. They are getting literally no pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually impressive how bad the season has been for
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins to start. And I had my suspicions that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to be awful this year, but for once,
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  Speaker 1: they are actually, they're sticking with it and they are
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  Speaker 1: really having a very bad start. They are paying a
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  Speaker 1: ton of money to players that are not on the team.
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  Speaker 1: And my only hope at this point for the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: is that they continue to lose because then for once,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they won't be in the middle of the pack,
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  Speaker 1: not able to get a high draft pick and not
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  Speaker 1: able to finally get a quarterback. It seems as if
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  Speaker 1: this batch of quarterbacks coming out of college this year
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  Speaker 1: will actually be pretty impressive, unlike last year where it
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  Speaker 1: was really only Fernando Mendoza. And they can consistently play
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  Speaker 1: bad for the rest of the season and actually get
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  Speaker 1: a high draft pick, they may be able to turn
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  Speaker 1: things around for the organization, which has been a disappointment
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  Speaker 1: for years and years and years. They had an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to get a high draft pick with Tua and obviously
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  Speaker 1: blew that. And coming into the season, there was not
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  Speaker 1: really a whole lot to be excited about. And it
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  Speaker 1: seems to very much align with that. So While this
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  Speaker 1: is bad news for the Dolphins fans, of which I
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  Speaker 1: am one, it's.
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  Speaker 2: A real silver lining.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you do follow the Dolphins, as I have
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  Speaker 1: for many, many years, you know that they have this
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  Speaker 1: ability to blow every opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So players play hard. That is a given. Coaches coach
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  Speaker 2: to win. Players play to win. Organizations may tank, but
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  Speaker 2: players and coaches do not.
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  Speaker 1: This year, particularly, the way that this team is set up,
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  Speaker 1: they were not set up for success going into the season.
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  Speaker 1: And for once, they may actually be able to maintain
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  Speaker 1: this long enough to get a high draft pick, draft
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future, and actually build a team
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  Speaker 1: that is competitive in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: That is what I'm hoping for. So that is my
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  Speaker 2: worst team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Staying in the NFL, one of those three lost teams
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  Speaker 1: is Cam Ward's second season with the Tennessee Titans. They
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  Speaker 1: haven't gone off to a great start. As I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: they've yet to win a game under new head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Sala. And because of that, Cam Ward started receiving.
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  Speaker 2: Some threatening messages from fans.
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  Speaker 1: It's even gotten to the point where his sister felt
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  Speaker 1: the need to post about on social media, defending her brother.
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  Speaker 1: And Cam Ward talked about it during a media session.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I mean, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: people are weird. They can say whatever they want, but
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  Speaker 1: I think football will take care of a lot of it.
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  Speaker 1: My family knows the position that I've in and I've
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  Speaker 1: wanted to, my whole life, they're in.
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  Speaker 2: This position as well with me. I can relate to this.
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  Speaker 1: While social media was nowhere near this level, was barely
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  Speaker 1: a thing when my brother Jason Taylor was in the league,
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  Speaker 1: but there was still moments of hostility. I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: he went to the Jets, obviously that was a time
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of Dolphins fans were furious because that
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  Speaker 1: was back when rivalries still mattered in the NFL. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, they would call or when we would go
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  Speaker 1: to games, they would yell and, you know, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: It got a little toxic from time to time, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that is what the, that was the accepted
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  Speaker 1: behavior around sports. And like I said, social media wasn't
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  Speaker 1: really an added part of that. It was mostly driven
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  Speaker 1: by traditional media and fans having rivalries. There was only
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  Speaker 1: really one incident where I ever really felt unsafe. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously I was protective of my brother and
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  Speaker 1: of my family.
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  Speaker 2: But none of this behavior makes it right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a certain level of teasing.
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  Speaker 2: There's a certain level.
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  Speaker 1: Of, you know, light animosity when it comes to fans
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  Speaker 1: that is expected.
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  Speaker 2: Fans are passionate. They are loyal. They pay their money.
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  Speaker 2: And they are allowed to cheer. They're allowed to boo.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to another team, they're allowed to express
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  Speaker 1: respectfully their displeasure with it. When you talk about harassing
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  Speaker 1: people's families, when you talk about threatening people, when you
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  Speaker 1: talk about sending messages ad nauseum to players on social media,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is such absolute loser behavior. I've talked
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  Speaker 1: to so many athletes who get harassed. Obviously, for years,
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  Speaker 1: players have been getting harassed about fantasy football, which I
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  Speaker 1: can't think of what a bigger loser you have to
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  Speaker 1: be than to message a player about his failure or
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  Speaker 1: her failure to get you fantasy points.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, your life is terrible if that is what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: And similarly, if you're harassing somebody because they're not winning
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  Speaker 1: on your favorite team, I mean, you're just a loser.
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  Speaker 1: Like your life sucks and you have no purpose. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to get another hobby. It's absolutely insane that you're
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  Speaker 1: harassing someone's family because they're not winning.
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  Speaker 2: These are human beings. Get a grip.
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  Speaker 1: It's always fascinated me, and we'll talk more about this
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  Speaker 1: in the last story, how dehumanizing fans can be to athletes.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm in the media.
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  Speaker 1: So there are plenty of times where I check other
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  Speaker 1: media members when they get to Cavalier about how they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about athletes.
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  Speaker 2: These are human beings at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're talking about football specifically in a 100%
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  Speaker 1: injury sport, they are putting their bodies through things you
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  Speaker 1: cannot even imagine just to be able to get on
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  Speaker 1: the field. Yes, they're being compensated for it. Yes, they're famous. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they get to play a game for a living. That
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  Speaker 1: does not give you the right to disrespect them, to
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  Speaker 1: threaten them, to threaten their families, to disrespect their families,
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  Speaker 1: to send them hideous messages.
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  Speaker 2: You do not get that right.
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  Speaker 1: You get to go to the building you get to
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  Speaker 1: boo you get to cheer and that's it and at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day and you can go on
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  Speaker 1: your fan forums and you can you can do your
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  Speaker 1: your tweets but harassing people is it's insane behavior it's
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  Speaker 1: loser behavior and there's just absolutely no excuse for it
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  Speaker 1: I I cannot believe I can't believe because it absolutely
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  Speaker 1: tracks but it just fully disgusts me that people will
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  Speaker 1: will get so upset over a football game that they
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  Speaker 1: will threaten a player.
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  Speaker 2: They'll go to the level of taking the time out
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  Speaker 2: of their day to threaten a player. It's just pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, the WNBA playoffs rolled on Wednesday with two potential
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  Speaker 1: elimination games. Angel Reese and the Atlanta Dream finished off
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  Speaker 1: the Washington Mystics. for Angel's first career playoff series win.
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  Speaker 1: Sad to see Washington go. A lot of young, exciting
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  Speaker 1: players on that team, but I am excited for the dream.
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  Speaker 1: My girl, Jordan Canada, and of course Angel. And Angel
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  Speaker 1: talks about the leadership of veteran Dewana Bonner and what
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  Speaker 1: she's added since joining the dream a month ago and
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  Speaker 1: late in the game.
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  Speaker 2: And in the late game, the Wings managed an overtime win.
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  Speaker 1: Erike was incredible in this game. hit a very clutch
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  Speaker 1: shot to push it into overtime, and they managed to
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  Speaker 1: get a win to push this series with the Valkyries
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  Speaker 1: back to Golden State for a third and deciding game.
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  Speaker 1: But the whole conversation of the day was about Asia
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  Speaker 1: Wilson's confrontation with the fan in Indiana on Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, a male fan stood up from his seat,
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  Speaker 1: took a couple steps towards Wilson while pointing at her.
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  Speaker 1: Wilson reacted, walked towards the man. His wife snatched him
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  Speaker 1: back to his seat. The moment led to a technical
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  Speaker 1: foul for Asia and the Fever went on to win
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  Speaker 1: the game. Game three in that series is tonight. And
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Sophie Cunningham added some fuel to the fire.
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  Speaker 1: She posted a selfie video joking about how it's a
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  Speaker 1: good year for the point.
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  Speaker 2: She had got into it with Dewana Bonner, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: Remember the meme of her pointing earlier in the season?
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  Speaker 1: So Sophie's trolling And the fan who drew Asia Wilson's
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  Speaker 1: negative attention was reacting to a play where Sophie was
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  Speaker 1: knocked down. This whole conversation, and I read a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different reactions to it, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: have asked me about it and what my thoughts are
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  Speaker 1: about her reacting to the fan. I have been consistent
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  Speaker 1: about this, as I just mentioned, with the story regarding
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  Speaker 1: Cam Ward. And I've talked about this many, many times
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to NBA players. I often reference Russell Westbrook,
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  Speaker 1: who went through a series of incidents with fans harassing
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  Speaker 1: him and fans getting thrown out and him reacting to fans.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Asia is perfectly within her right to
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  Speaker 1: react to someone who is saying something crazy to her
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  Speaker 1: from this stance.
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  Speaker 2: Male players do it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Male players get fans thrown out for doing less, for
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  Speaker 1: moving around less. The man stood up, he left his seat,
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  Speaker 1: took several steps towards Asia. Whether Asia felt threatened or
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  Speaker 1: whether she heard something from him that made her feel
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  Speaker 1: like she needed to react in that way is on her.
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  Speaker 1: My vote is always with the player. It's never with
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  Speaker 1: the fans. Because I'm not there hearing what they're saying
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  Speaker 1: throughout the game. I am not standing there to hear
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  Speaker 1: what he said to her in that moment. And if
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  Speaker 1: she feels threatened, get him out of there. If somebody
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  Speaker 1: is not bothering you, the player is not going to react.
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  Speaker 1: The player is not going to ask a fan to
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  Speaker 1: get kicked out. They're really not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And male players get fans kicked out all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It happens all the time. So this idea that Asia
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  Speaker 1: needs to be above it, and she's got to have
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  Speaker 1: more composure and she's doing too much.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Just all I ever ask is that it's consistent across
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  Speaker 1: the board. The next time a player, a male player
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  Speaker 1: gets a fan kicked out, let's have the same song
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  Speaker 1: and dance every single time. I just disagree with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that players need to be protected. I think
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about basketball specifically, the fans are so
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  Speaker 1: close to the players. They are right there on the court.
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  Speaker 1: They are, able to touch the players. NBA and WNBA
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  Speaker 1: buildings are so scrunched together. They're squeezing every single dollar
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  Speaker 1: out of every inch of those arenas. And because of that,
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  Speaker 1: I really feel like NBA and WNBA players need a
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  Speaker 1: more heightened level of protection from fans because the proximity
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  Speaker 1: is so close. When you're talking about the NFL, While
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  Speaker 1: fans should absolutely not be able to.
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  Speaker 2: Yell slurs and terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Things from the stands at players, a player will have
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  Speaker 1: to physically climb into the stands at an NFL game,
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  Speaker 1: which has happened before. But in an NBA or WNBA game,
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  Speaker 1: the proximity of basketball games are just so much closer.
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  Speaker 1: So I default to protecting the players. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that just because you're a fan, you have a right
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  Speaker 1: to say whatever you want to to players, that you
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  Speaker 1: have the right to berate players. You can make it
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  Speaker 1: a hostile environment without targeting a player, without saying things
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  Speaker 1: to players that are out of line. And I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm always on the player side. If you
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  Speaker 1: are harassing a player and going to get kicked out,
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  Speaker 1: you absolutely earned that situation. I've been to many, many, many, many,
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  Speaker 1: many sporting events. It's never crossed my mind to harass
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  Speaker 1: a player before. This behavior is insane and there's no
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  Speaker 1: reason to justify it. And it's not about Asia being sensitive.
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  Speaker 1: It's not about her having to keep her composure. She's
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  Speaker 1: there to do her job. She's the one that's being
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  Speaker 1: paid to be there, not the other way around. And
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  Speaker 1: we see it all the time in the NBA. I
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  Speaker 1: always reference Russell Westbrook because it was at a time
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  Speaker 1: where people were targeting him. They were purposely trying to
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  Speaker 1: get under his skin. They were purposely trying him. There
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  Speaker 1: was a time where a guy actually walked onto the
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  Speaker 1: court up to Russell Westbrook. And my thing was like,
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  Speaker 1: if Russell decides to knock his head off, he has
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  Speaker 1: a right to do that. He has no idea what
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  Speaker 1: this man is doing. He doesn't know if he was
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  Speaker 1: able to get a knife in here or whatever. People
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  Speaker 1: are crazy. And people were still on the fan side.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm on the player side, period. I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: player side, WNBA, NBA, NFL, whatever it is. Fans are
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  Speaker 1: there to observe. They are there to make noise. They
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  Speaker 1: are there to cheer. They're there to boo. They are
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  Speaker 1: not there to harass. They are not there to make
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  Speaker 1: themselves the center of attention and make themselves the story.
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  Speaker 1: And the moment you do that, you don't need to
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  Speaker 1: be there. It's as simple as that for me. But listen,
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs have been spicy already.
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  Speaker 2: And I do love that part. And I can't wait
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