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The internet is still fighting about this... Unsolvable Mysteries Part 2 · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: A woman was viciously harassed for seven years. When it
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  Speaker 1: all came to a head, the police blamed one person
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  Speaker 1: and the victim's family and friends blamed another, and to
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  Speaker 1: this day, the Internet remains totally divided on whether blame
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  Speaker 1: was appropriately placed. But before we get into today's bizarre story,
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's get into today's story.
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  Speaker 1: In June of nineteen eighty two, thirty eight year old
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  Speaker 1: Cindy Hack divorced her husband Roy. As soon as she
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  Speaker 1: moved into another home in Vancouver, Cana. She felt this
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  Speaker 1: wave of relief come over her. Their marriage had become
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  Speaker 1: abusive and toxic years ago, but her newfound happiness would
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  Speaker 1: be short lived. Only four months after leaving her husband,
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  Speaker 1: Cindy's waking nightmare would begin. It all started with a
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  Speaker 1: late night phone call on October seventh, nineteen eighty two.
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  Speaker 1: When she answered, the voice on the other side was
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  Speaker 1: raspy and angry sounding. It addressed Cindy by name and
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  Speaker 1: quickly told her that they planned on hurting her, and
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  Speaker 1: before Cindy could do anything, the caller had hung up.
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  Speaker 1: Cindy was horrified and didn't know what to do, so
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  Speaker 1: she did nothing. And then over the next few days,
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  Speaker 1: she received more calls from this phantom caller, and each
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  Speaker 1: of them began with this person addressing her by name
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  Speaker 1: and then threatening violence, and Cindy began to convince herself
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  Speaker 1: that this had to be some terrible prank, and so
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  Speaker 1: she continued to do nothing about it. One night, Cindy
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  Speaker 1: couldn't help but feel like she was being watched, and
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  Speaker 1: she looked into her living room and she noticed one
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  Speaker 1: of her windows was still open. At night, she would
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  Speaker 1: draw all the curtains in her house, and so she
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  Speaker 1: walked over to the window and she pressed her face
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  Speaker 1: up against the glass to look outside, and she didn't
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  Speaker 1: see anybody out there, and so she drew the Curtains
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  Speaker 1: turned around and began walking back towards the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: When her phone rang.
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  Speaker 1: She hesitated, but eventually picked the phone up, and on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the call was the mystery caller, who,
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  Speaker 1: in a mocking tone told her that Curtains weren't going
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  Speaker 1: to protect her, that they knew when she was home.
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  Speaker 1: This incident pushed her over the edge, and she knew
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  Speaker 1: this could not be some bad prank. This was real,
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  Speaker 1: and so she contacted the police, who made a house visit,
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  Speaker 1: but there wasn't any sign of a break in or
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  Speaker 1: any sign of a crime being committed, and so after
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  Speaker 1: walking her property and feeling confident that she was safe,
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  Speaker 1: they told her that, you know, you should really consider
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  Speaker 1: getting an unlisted telephone number. That way, this mystery person
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  Speaker 1: can't keep contacting you. And so Cindy thanked them and
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  Speaker 1: would go on to get an unlisted telephone number. But
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  Speaker 1: not only would the calls continue, they would become more frequent,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, the harassment in general only began to escalate.
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  Speaker 1: Three days later, on October fifteenth, Cindy and her good
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  Speaker 1: friend Agnes were coming back from dinner to Cindy's house,
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  Speaker 1: and when they got there, they noticed that one of
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  Speaker 1: the front windows had been broken, and so they carefully
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  Speaker 1: walked onto the porch and realized the front door was
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  Speaker 1: actually unlocked and slightly ajar They considered immediately leaving the
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  Speaker 1: property and just calling police, but they sat there for
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  Speaker 1: a minute and didn't hear anything inside the house, and
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  Speaker 1: so they decided they would just poke their head in
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  Speaker 1: and investigate. And so when they went inside, all the
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  Speaker 1: lights were off and there was no sign of it disturbance.
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  Speaker 2: It was totally quiet. But when they went.
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  Speaker 1: Upstairs, they found feathers all over the hall, and they
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  Speaker 1: followed those feathers all the way to Cindy's room, and
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  Speaker 1: in her room, all of her pillows had been ripped apart,
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  Speaker 1: and a key to her front door was laying conspicuously
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  Speaker 1: on her bedside table. The women fled the house and
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  Speaker 1: called police, but when they showed up, there really wasn't
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  Speaker 1: much they could do. Despite knowing about Cindy's threatening phone
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  Speaker 1: call she was getting, there was just no clear sign
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  Speaker 1: of who broke into her house and cut up her pillows,
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  Speaker 1: and so they told her that the best thing she
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  Speaker 1: can do is change her locks make sure everything in
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  Speaker 1: her house stays locked at all times when she's home,
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  Speaker 1: and if she notices anything out of the ordinary to
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  Speaker 1: call back. Over the following few days, Cindy got more
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  Speaker 1: threatening phone calls, Anne began waking up to threatening note
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  Speaker 1: laying on her front porch that had been made from
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  Speaker 1: newspaper and magazine clippings. This led to the police launching
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  Speaker 1: a larger investigation into the matter. An officer named Pat McBride,
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  Speaker 1: who had been on the force for eight years, began
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  Speaker 1: checking in on Cindy almost daily, and very quickly, Pat
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  Speaker 1: and Cindy developed a romantic relationship, and Pat actually moved
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  Speaker 1: into Cindy's house while he was investigating this case. As
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  Speaker 1: soon as Pat moved in, the harassment seemed to stop,
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  Speaker 1: but just a couple of weeks later, in early November,
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  Speaker 1: Pat woke up one morning at Cindy's house and discovered
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  Speaker 1: that her phone lines were dead. When he went outside
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  Speaker 1: to investigate, he discovered that the lines had actually been cut,
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  Speaker 1: and he found a pair of wirecutters laying on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Over the following month, in addition to the threatening phone
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  Speaker 1: calls and notes left on her porch, Cindy began hearing
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  Speaker 1: somebody walking around outside her house at night, but she
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  Speaker 1: was always too terrified to go to the window and
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  Speaker 1: look outside to see who it was. She began finding
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  Speaker 1: raw meat sitting outside of her door in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: and she would find pictures of dead bodies tucked under
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  Speaker 1: her windshield wiper on her car. One day, she walked
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  Speaker 1: into her backyard and she discovered three dead cats hanging
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  Speaker 1: in her garden. Cindy, who was a bubbly happy person
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  Speaker 1: before the harassment started, had become a totally anxious and
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  Speaker 1: paranoid mess. But despite her obvious distress, the local police
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  Speaker 1: were starting to doubt her claims that this stalker was
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  Speaker 1: even real. Every time she called them claiming stocker activity,
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  Speaker 1: they would go to her house and look around, but
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  Speaker 1: they could never find any evidence to suggest that anyone
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  Speaker 1: besides her, her friends, or her.
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  Speaker 2: Boyfriend had been there.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of her boyfriend, police officer Pat McBride, he
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  Speaker 1: would tell his coworkers that he was never home when
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  Speaker 1: the stoker called, and he never heard anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Walking around outside of her house.
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  Speaker 1: He said, the only reason he knew about these things
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  Speaker 1: is because Cindy told him after the fact, upset that
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  Speaker 1: the police were not taking her seriously, Cindy broke up
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  Speaker 1: with Pat and decided she needed to move and start
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  Speaker 1: over in another town.
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  Speaker 2: Just days before Cindy.
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  Speaker 1: Was supposed to relocate, her friend Agnes stopped by when
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  Speaker 1: she went to the front door and knocked, and there
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  Speaker 1: was no answer. She walked around to the back and
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  Speaker 1: she found her friend crouched down behind the stairs as
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  Speaker 1: if she was hiding from some thing. She ran over
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  Speaker 1: to her and noticed she had this black nylon stalking
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  Speaker 1: wrapped tightly around her neck. But Cindy seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: totally unfazed by it and just kept looking.
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  Speaker 2: Out towards her shed.
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  Speaker 1: And so Agnes runs over to Cindy and said, Cindy,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: What's on your neck?
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  Speaker 1: And Cindy turned to look at her, and her eyes
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  Speaker 1: were super wide and she was panicked, and she told
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  Speaker 1: Agnes that just minutes ago, she had been walking out
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  Speaker 1: to her shed to get something when a man leaped
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  Speaker 1: out of the shadows and wrapped this nylon around her
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  Speaker 1: neck and began choking her and threatened that if she
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  Speaker 1: turned around to look at him, he would attack her family.
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  Speaker 1: So Cindy and this man struggled for a minute until
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  Speaker 1: Agnes's car approached, which spooked the man.
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  Speaker 2: And he ran off.
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  Speaker 1: Agnes was shocked and she grabbed her friend and picked
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  Speaker 1: her up. She pulled the nylon off of her neck
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  Speaker 1: and the two of them ran inside and locked all
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  Speaker 1: the doors and windows, and then at that point Cindy
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  Speaker 1: called the police. But when the police showed up, the
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  Speaker 1: only evidence of this attack was Cindy's first hand account
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  Speaker 1: and this nylon stalking. But the police believed the nylon
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  Speaker 1: stocking was Cindy's and she had staged the whole event
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  Speaker 1: and she had tied it around her neck herself. A
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  Speaker 1: few days later, in January of nineteen eighty three, Cindy
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  Speaker 1: moved into a new home in a town called Richmond,
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  Speaker 1: which is a suburb of Vancouver, Canada, and as soon
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  Speaker 1: as she got there, she painted her car a new color,
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  Speaker 1: and she actually changed her last name to James.
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  Speaker 2: For months, she didn't see.
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  Speaker 1: Or hear from her stoker, But in October of that year,
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  Speaker 1: she found another dead cat on her property with a.
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  Speaker 2: Note next to it that just said you're next.
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  Speaker 1: Fearing for her life, she called the Richmond Police, who
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  Speaker 1: set up a surveillance operation on her property. But for months,
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  Speaker 1: despite dozens of officers watching her house at practically all hours.
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  Speaker 1: They never ever saw any Stocker activity, but as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the officers left for any amount of time when
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  Speaker 1: there was a gap in surveillance, Cindy would call the
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  Speaker 1: police and report Stocker activity. In time, this town's police
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  Speaker 1: department also began to suspect that Cindy was fabricating the
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  Speaker 1: Stoker story, and they told her as much. Now blatantly
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  Speaker 1: knowing the police were not taking her seriously, Cindy hired
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  Speaker 1: a local private detective named Ozzy Capan to look into
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  Speaker 1: her case immediately. He installed floodlights all around her proper,
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  Speaker 1: and he gave her a two way radio to place
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  Speaker 1: inside of her house that constantly broadcast back to Ozzy.
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  Speaker 1: That way, if she was in trouble, he would know
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  Speaker 1: about it, even if she couldn't get to the radio
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  Speaker 1: to actually tell him. He also installed a panic button
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  Speaker 1: inside of her house that would send an alarm to
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  Speaker 1: him as well as to the police. In January of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, after only being on the case for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, Ozzy heard some strange sounds coming
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  Speaker 1: across the two way radio. It sounded like there was
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  Speaker 1: some sort of struggle happening in Cindy's house, and so
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  Speaker 1: he tried radioing her to ask what was going on,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't get a response, and so he flew
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  Speaker 1: over to her house. He knocked on the door, but
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  Speaker 1: there was no answer, and so he kicked the door
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  Speaker 1: down and found Cindy lying in the hallway, motionless, with
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  Speaker 1: a note on top of her hand that was held
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  Speaker 1: in place by a pairing knife that had been stabbed
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  Speaker 1: through the note and then through her hand.
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  Speaker 2: The note said you're dead, lady.
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  Speaker 1: Cindy also had a black nylon stalking wrapped around her neck,
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  Speaker 1: and so initially Ozzy believed Cindy was dead, but he
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  Speaker 1: managed to find a pulse and so he brought her
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital, and when she regained consciousness, all she
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  Speaker 1: could recall was feeling someone inject her arm with a needle,
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  Speaker 1: and then after that she had no memory of the attack.
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  Speaker 1: The police, believing Cindy had staged the attack, did not
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  Speaker 1: bother to take fingerprints at her home or on the
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  Speaker 1: knife or on the note. Ozzy, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: believed his client was telling the truth. He didn't believe
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  Speaker 1: Cindy was physically capable of injecting herself in the area
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  Speaker 1: where the needle had entered her body. The angle was
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  Speaker 1: nearly impossible to achieve on her own.
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  Speaker 2: Once she was.
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  Speaker 1: Released from the hospital, the police, despite believing she was lying,
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  Speaker 1: continued their surveillance operation of her property, but like always,
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  Speaker 1: nothing ever happened when any of the officers were on duty.
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  Speaker 1: The stoker activity only was reported after they had left.
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  Speaker 1: Life went on like this for over a year, and
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  Speaker 1: during that time Cindy's mental health continued to decline rapidly.
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  Speaker 1: She lived in constant fear of this stalker, and she
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  Speaker 1: was deeply embarrassed that the police believed she was lying.
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  Speaker 1: On December eleventh, nineteen eighty five, Cindy was attacked again,
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  Speaker 1: but the details on this are incredibly scant. Someone found
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  Speaker 1: her lying in a ditch six miles away from her home.
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  Speaker 1: She was wearing a single work boot and a single glove.
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  Speaker 1: She was suffering from hypothermia, and she had cuts and
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  Speaker 1: bruises all over her body, and she had a black
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  Speaker 1: nylon stalking wrapped around her neck.
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  Speaker 2: She had no memory of the attack.
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  Speaker 1: The police told her that they believed this was yet
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  Speaker 1: another staged event, and so they did not do any
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  Speaker 1: significant follow up. After a few days in the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: she was sent home, but she was terrified to be alone,
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  Speaker 1: so she reached out to her friend Agnes and asked
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  Speaker 1: if she and her husband Tom would stay with her
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days, and they agreed. The first
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  Speaker 1: night they were there, Cindy woke up in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night and heard strange sounds coming from the basement.
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  Speaker 1: She woke up Agnes and Tom and they heard the
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  Speaker 1: sounds too, and so they went down to the first floor.
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  Speaker 1: They opened up the door to the basement and they
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  Speaker 1: looked downstairs and very clearly there was a fire raging
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  Speaker 1: in her basement, and so Cindy immediately ran to the
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  Speaker 1: phone to call nine one one, but they discovered the
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  Speaker 1: phone lines had been cut, and so Tom ran outside
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  Speaker 1: to try to find a neighbor to call nine one
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  Speaker 1: one for them, And when he went outside, he found
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  Speaker 1: a man just standing there in front of the house
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  Speaker 1: watching it, and Tom yelled to him, Hey, you need
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  Speaker 1: to call nine one one. This house is on fire,
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  Speaker 1: and this man, without saying a word, just turned and
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  Speaker 1: ran down the street.
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  Speaker 2: And that man was never identified.
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  Speaker 1: Finally, Tom did get a neighbor to call nine one one,
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  Speaker 1: the fire department arrived and they put out the fire,
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  Speaker 1: and then after an investigation, they determined that the fire
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  Speaker 1: had been set intentionally. This was an act of arson,
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  Speaker 1: and the police said there was no signs of forced
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  Speaker 1: entry anywhere around the house, which means someone who was
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  Speaker 1: already in the house had to have started the fire,
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  Speaker 1: and they specifically said Cindy had to have started the
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  Speaker 1: fire because she stages these events all the time because
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  Speaker 1: of this stalker delusion she has. Agnes and Tom denied
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  Speaker 1: this claim, saying they never heard Cindy walking around at
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  Speaker 1: night and she would.
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  Speaker 2: Never jeopardize their lives.
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  Speaker 1: After this event, Cindy became extremely depressed and had to
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  Speaker 1: be hospitalized, and for ten weeks she was under intense
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  Speaker 1: psychiatric care. But at the end of those ten weeks,
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  Speaker 1: the doctors determined that she was not a threat to
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  Speaker 1: herself or to anyone else, and so she was sent home.
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  Speaker 1: It was at this time that Cindy went to the
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  Speaker 1: police and said that she thinks Roy, her ex husband,
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  Speaker 1: was behind all of the attacks. Police immediately brought Roy
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  Speaker 1: in for questioning, and he emphatically denied all allegations, saying
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  Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with it. And in fact
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  Speaker 1: he had been the victim of this stalker that was
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  Speaker 1: going after his ex wife. He said he got a
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  Speaker 1: number of these threatening phone calls, and one time when
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  Speaker 1: they called, they left him a voicemail and he played
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  Speaker 1: it for the police. After speaking with Roy and confirming
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  Speaker 1: his various alibis, the police ruled him out as a suspect.
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  Speaker 1: For the next three and a half years, Cindy continued
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  Speaker 1: to receive threatening phone calls and messages at her house,
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  Speaker 1: but no one besides Cindy ever saw the stuff happen live.
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  Speaker 1: While her private investigator, Ozzy, still believed every bit of
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  Speaker 1: her story, the Richmond Police Department had grown tired of her.
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  Speaker 2: And stopped responding to her calls.
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  Speaker 1: On the evening of May twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine,
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  Speaker 1: Agnes showed up at Cindy's house for their scheduled game
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  Speaker 1: of bridge. When she knocked on the door, there was
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  Speaker 1: no answer, and because Agnes and Cindy were very close,
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  Speaker 1: Agnes tried the front door. It was unlocked, and so
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  Speaker 1: she let herself in, thinking Cindy must be upstairs taking
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  Speaker 1: a shower. But when she stepped inside, the house was
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  Speaker 1: totally silent, and after a couple of minutes of no
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  Speaker 1: commotion upstairs, Agnes began searching the house for her friend,
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  Speaker 1: and she discovered that Cindy.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't there, and so she called the police.
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  Speaker 1: The police launched a search and very quickly found Cindy's
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  Speaker 1: car in a parking lot at a local supermarket, and when
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  Speaker 1: investigators went over the car, they discovered there was blood
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  Speaker 1: on the outside of the driver's side door. The contents
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  Speaker 1: of Cindy's purse, including her credit cards and ID, were
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  Speaker 1: scattered about on the ground near the car, and then
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  Speaker 1: in the trunk of the vehicle were the groceries that
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  Speaker 1: Cindy had recently purchased. But despite her car being found,
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  Speaker 1: there was really no indication of where she went next.
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  Speaker 1: Her friends and family believed she had been kidnapped by
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  Speaker 1: her stalker, and the police believed she was staging yet
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  Speaker 1: another event, but regardless, no.
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  Speaker 2: One could find her.
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  Speaker 1: Two weeks after her disappearance and one and a half
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  Speaker 1: miles away from where her car had been found, a
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  Speaker 1: road worker had drank too much coffee and needed to
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  Speaker 1: use the bathroom, but where they were working they did
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  Speaker 1: not have a portage on and they were not near
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  Speaker 1: any local businesses that might offer public restrooms. The only
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  Speaker 1: area that offered any privacy was the abandoned building that
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  Speaker 1: was right near their work site, and so this worker
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  Speaker 1: told his crew where he was headed. He turned and
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  Speaker 1: began walking across the totally overgrown front yard of this property.
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  Speaker 1: And as he began walking around the side of this building,
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  Speaker 1: he smelled this horrific smell, like one of the worst
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  Speaker 1: smells he'd ever smelled in his life. And he assumed
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  Speaker 1: that because this property was abandoned, maybe people were dumping
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  Speaker 1: their trash on it somewhere and it's a hot day
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  Speaker 1: and that's why it smells. But either way, he wrote
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  Speaker 1: it off. He walked around to the back of this building.
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  Speaker 1: He found a good spot, he relieved himself. He turned
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  Speaker 1: around and began walking back along the side to go
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  Speaker 1: back to the road, when he stopped because he saw
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  Speaker 1: something lying near the side of the house that he
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  Speaker 1: was surprised he hadn't noticed on his way in. He
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  Speaker 1: couldn't really see what it was because the tall grass
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  Speaker 1: was obscuring his view, and so he took a couple
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  Speaker 1: steps forward to get a better look, and when he
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  Speaker 1: could see clearly what it was, he stopped because laying
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  Speaker 1: in front of him was a clearly deceased woman laying
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  Speaker 1: on her side with her hands and feet bound behind
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  Speaker 1: her back and around her neck was a black nylon stocking.
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  Speaker 1: It was the body of Cindy James, despite the nylon
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  Speaker 1: around her neck. The autopsy revealed she did not die
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  Speaker 1: from strangulation. She died from an overdose of morphine and
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  Speaker 1: other drugs. The police brought in a not expert who
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  Speaker 1: was easily able to put himself in the same position
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  Speaker 1: that Cindy was in and tie himself up. With this information,
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  Speaker 1: combined with their belief that Cindy was a pathological liar,
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  Speaker 1: they concluded that this had to have been self inflicted,
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  Speaker 1: that she injected herself with a lethal dose and then
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  Speaker 1: dropped down to the ground and tied herself up to
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  Speaker 1: stage the epic conclusion to this stocker delusion. To cover
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  Speaker 1: their bases, the police did reinterview Roy, the ex husband,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: but his alibi checked out, and realistically he was never
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: actually a suspect. It's not listed online whether Pat McBride,
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  Speaker 1: the police officer ex boyfriend, was ever investigated. While the
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  Speaker 1: police were very camp in their theory of what happened
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  Speaker 1: to Cindy, there were some discrepancies. The medical examiner did
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  Speaker 1: not agree with the ruling that this was a suicide.
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  Speaker 1: He said that you can't conclude that there's not enough evidence.
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  Speaker 1: During the autopsy, it was discovered that Cindy did have
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  Speaker 1: an injection mark in her arm, but they could never
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  Speaker 1: find the needle anywhere near her body or anywhere between
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  Speaker 1: her and her parked car. Considering the extremely high dosage
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  Speaker 1: of narcotic that was found in Cindy's system, if this
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  Speaker 1: had been a suicide, as soon as she injected herself,
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  Speaker 1: she would have had to immediately shift gears, get down
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  Speaker 1: on the ground, and start hogtying herself before she became
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  Speaker 1: too intoxicated to function, meaning the needle should have been
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  Speaker 1: right around where she was found, but it wasn't. Also
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: missing from the crime scene were Cindy's shoes and socks,
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  Speaker 1: and interestingly, her bare feet were totally clean, despite the
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  Speaker 1: fact that in order to get where she was found,
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  Speaker 1: she would have had to cover a distance of at
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  Speaker 1: least a mile and a half from her parked car,
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  Speaker 1: but again there was no dirt or any markings on
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  Speaker 1: the underside of her feet. Also, it was strange that
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  Speaker 1: she was and discovered faster than two weeks. Although she
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: was found near this abandoned house that was totally overgrown,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the house was actually frequented by teenagers, and there was
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a walking trail nearby that would have had a line
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of sight on her body. These discrepancies have led many
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  Speaker 1: people to believe that Cindy did have a stalker, and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: this stalker kidnapped her in the supermarket parking lot. They
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: tied her up, they injected her with the lethal dose
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  Speaker 1: of morphine, and then after she had died, they dumped
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  Speaker 1: her near this abandoned property right before she was found,
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  Speaker 1: and they had left that black nylon tied around her.
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  Speaker 2: Neck because that was the stalker's signature.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Some have taken this a step further and said Pat McBride,
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  Speaker 1: the police officer, was behind the attacks because he would
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: have known when surveillance was set up on her house
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  Speaker 1: and could have very easily avoided detection. But the most
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: bizarre and fascinating theory of what happened to Cindy is
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: that she had disassociative identity disorder or did. This is
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: where someone maintains at least two distinct personalities and when
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  Speaker 1: one of those personalities is active, the other kind of
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  Speaker 1: fades and has no memory of this experience, creating these
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  Speaker 1: huge memory gaps. And so the theory goes one of
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Cindy's personalities was effectively stalking herself, or more specifically, one
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  Speaker 1: of her personalities hated herself and wanted to do herself harm,
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  Speaker 1: and so that personality would do things like stab her
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  Speaker 1: own hand or run six miles away into some ditch
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  Speaker 1: and leave herself for dead, and then Cindy's other personality
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  Speaker 1: would take back over and she would suddenly come too,
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  Speaker 1: having no.
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  Speaker 2: Memory of how she became injured or how she wound
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: up in this ditch.
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  Speaker 1: And so when she went to police to tell them
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  Speaker 1: that someone is stalking as harassing as attacking me, she
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: was telling the truth. But that someone that stalker was
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: actually her. She just didn't know it. But Roy, her
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: ex husband, was a psychiatrist, and in their sixteen years
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of marriage, he never noticed this condition. And when Cindy
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: was in that psychiatric ward for ten weeks following one
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of her stalker attacks, none of the doctor's or psychiatrists
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: ever noticed or diagnosed her with this condition. It's all
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: possible she had did, and it just came on later
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  Speaker 1: in life and it didn't present itself enough to be
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: noticed during those ten weeks of psychiatric care. But realistically
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  Speaker 1: this reduces the chances of did being.
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  Speaker 2: Behind this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: To date, her death is still considered a suicide and
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  Speaker 1: no one has ever been charged in connection with her death.
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