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Joe Rogan Experience _2529 - Zach Bush · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Podcast check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Logan experience Drain by Day Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Rokey podcast by night all.
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  Speaker 2: Day, stick with the water from that, I've never figured
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  Speaker 2: out how to do the coffee thing.
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  Speaker 1: You never figured out coffee.
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  Speaker 2: No, really do tea things? Well, drink tea.
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  Speaker 1: He's nice. He's probably better for you, I guess. But man,
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  Speaker 1: it's so hard to know. Well, here, I'll ask you
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  Speaker 1: because you're a health expert. Convene there because there's all
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  Speaker 1: this conflicting information about coffee. Like some people say, coffee
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  Speaker 1: is really good for you, it's like an amazing antioxidant
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  Speaker 1: and there's all these positive health benefits, and other people say, no,
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  Speaker 1: it dehydrates you, it's bad for you, it's too much caffeine,
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  Speaker 1: it's bad for your What do you think I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is one of the next advancements of humankind.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to stop demonizing anything nature's provided and we're
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  Speaker 2: to start looking at our relationship to it instead. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fun amount your relationship to coffee that's
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  Speaker 2: going to determine whether it's a health benefit or detrimental
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  Speaker 2: to who you are. There's been so many fad diets,
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  Speaker 2: so many fad moments, and the science has never supported
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  Speaker 2: any of it. The science is always looking at the
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  Speaker 2: human system as if it's an isolated system, then studies
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  Speaker 2: the impact of a chemical caffeine or otherwise on it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not an isolated system, and so if coffee is
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  Speaker 2: part of a complex ecosystem of your microbiome, the soil
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  Speaker 2: systems of your body, then it's going to supercharge you
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  Speaker 2: into health. But if coffee sits there as a drug
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  Speaker 2: that is bypassing the felt sense of being a human,
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  Speaker 2: then you're probably undermining your potential to be alive fully
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  Speaker 2: and it's becoming a distraction to life.
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  Speaker 1: Or you're doing your best to be a good office worker.
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  Speaker 1: Why it's the one drug they provide at.
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  Speaker 2: Work Exactly if you're committed to machine like behavior, it's
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  Speaker 2: your best asset.
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  Speaker 1: It is kind of interesting that caffeine is the one
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  Speaker 1: drug that is provided at most offices.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that that's indirectly true. I think that
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  Speaker 2: the one drug that's most provided at offices is actually
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  Speaker 2: performance based, machine like reward systems.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so human ingrained drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The brain contains every neuro chemical you'd want to
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  Speaker 2: control behavior, and so we've created office environments that reward
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  Speaker 2: machine like behavior for one hundred and fifty years, and
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  Speaker 2: so this is how we've ended up looking like we
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  Speaker 2: do as a humankind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very bizarre pattern that we've found ourselves in that
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  Speaker 1: was created to make better office workers. So we've molded
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  Speaker 1: human behavior around office work. We've molded human behavior around
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that people really, for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be doing, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was blessed to sit by thousands of deathbeds.
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  Speaker 2: Is my third sub especially in medicine, was hospice sat
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  Speaker 2: by thousands of deathbeds. And not a single person ever
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  Speaker 2: told me a day of their life in an office
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  Speaker 2: and they just don't even remember. It's right. It consumed
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  Speaker 2: forty hours a week of their life and and it
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  Speaker 2: just is a I can't compute. It doesn't integrate into
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  Speaker 2: your soul experience at the end of things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you're making a ton of money, Like
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're still locked up
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  Speaker 1: for eight hours a day doing something you probably don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're getting into a big piece right here,
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  Speaker 2: Like this is really the secret of everything is when
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  Speaker 2: did humans become abstract. When did we stop being living systems?
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  Speaker 1: So do you think that that's just our ego, our
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  Speaker 1: delusions that allow us to think that we're not a system,
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  Speaker 1: that we're just this is me. I'm Mike. I know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm just gonna drink my coffee and
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  Speaker 1: go to work, because that's what you do. You have
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  Speaker 1: a job, you get it done. And then there's like
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  Speaker 1: these narratives that get reinforced to the media, like the
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  Speaker 1: guy who shows up for work every day doing a job.
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  Speaker 1: It sucks like guy's a hero, right, we love those guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: You're that writes poetry and sits in his backyard. Oh
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  Speaker 1: fucking hippy. You know that ne'er d well, he's not
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  Speaker 1: unless he sells a bunch of books. And then we're like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I was a genies. Yes, you know, then
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  Speaker 1: he's got to rest. I think what you said about
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  Speaker 1: the relationship to coffee is really important because I think
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  Speaker 1: that could be the case with virtually everything in life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like there's you could get addicted to almost anything,
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  Speaker 1: and you could use something anything as a crutch, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's so many people use food. I mean, food is
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  Speaker 1: probably one of the biggest ones humans use. You don't
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  Speaker 1: feel good, have some fucking food, You eat some food
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  Speaker 1: you don't want, you shouldn't be eating, but you're like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm having ring dings, I'm tired today, sucked
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  Speaker 1: at work, you know, I'm having a hot dog on
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  Speaker 1: the way home. Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And I think that's why you've You've
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  Speaker 2: done twenty eight hundred podcasts or something like this. You've
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  Speaker 2: been at this for sixteen years, and I think this
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  Speaker 2: podcast is ready for the most disruptive conversation that's ever
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  Speaker 2: been had.
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  Speaker 1: I think this one right here, that's this one. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what's the most disruptive thing that you could say in
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  Speaker 1: the most disruptive conversation it's ever been had?
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  Speaker 2: Everything is perfect?
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: It means that everything that's happening right now is actually
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  Speaker 2: a perfect manifestation of a maturation of a species. We
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  Speaker 2: don't actually have a poly crisis going on. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a hospice moment. And the joy that I had as
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  Speaker 2: a hospice doctor was so different than when I was
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  Speaker 2: running ICUs and battling against death and failing against death.
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  Speaker 2: Every day you change your perspective for a moment as
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  Speaker 2: a doctor, and you suddenly are sitting by somebody's bed
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  Speaker 2: and the victory is no longer staying alive longer. It's
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  Speaker 2: integrating everything that's happened. And I got to watch over
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  Speaker 2: and over again how humans at that last few minutes
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  Speaker 2: of life suddenly look back and realized their life was perfect.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's the exciting moment we're in is
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  Speaker 2: we're going to move past this polarized state of human
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  Speaker 2: perspective where we keep flipping the victim perpetrator code and
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  Speaker 2: we use the savior mentality to keep that victim perpetrator
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  Speaker 2: coin flipping to keep a mirage going, and we can
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  Speaker 2: get into why we created the mirage in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: But in the hospice moment, you suddenly put that coin
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  Speaker 2: down and somebody starts dipping across the veil of the
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  Speaker 2: limited five senses of their brain and they start feeling
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  Speaker 2: an ecstatic moment where they realize, oh my god, the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing was poetically perfect, all of the heartbreak, all
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  Speaker 2: of the estrangement, all of the disappointment, all the insecurity.
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  Speaker 2: I did that for the experience, and I felt everything.
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  Speaker 2: I felt everything a human can feel, and you get
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  Speaker 2: to see somebody who just a moment ago, really thought
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  Speaker 2: their life was a failure, you know, difficult time with
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  Speaker 2: their kids, never became successful in their jobs, and they
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  Speaker 2: suddenly realized it had nothing to do with any of
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  Speaker 2: the metrics. It had to do with the experience of
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  Speaker 2: feeling everything a human being as capable of, which is
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  Speaker 2: probably one of the most unique experiences the soul can have.
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  Speaker 2: We are very strange species for the limitations of our perception,
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  Speaker 2: and for that we get to feel a lot and
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  Speaker 2: that's really blessed. And so I think we're moving towards
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  Speaker 2: this moment as a species. Now we've we're on our
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  Speaker 2: hospice bed and we've been here three hundred thousand years
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  Speaker 2: in our current form. We've been given our hospice diagnosis.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a few decades left in this current form.
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  Speaker 2: At that moment, when we put down that victim perpetrator
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  Speaker 2: polarized sense of like he's right, she's wrong, she's right,
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  Speaker 2: he's wrong, we set that coin down, We're going to
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  Speaker 2: suddenly have a hospice moment where everything suddenly makes sense
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  Speaker 2: and we understand why if we did the journey together,
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  Speaker 2: we realize that those that we thought were our enemies
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  Speaker 2: or the biggest problems of our lives. We're holding polarity
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  Speaker 2: to a human experience as waiting for our deathbed moment.
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  Speaker 2: Because about ten percent of hospice patients don't die, they
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  Speaker 2: get discharged, just go on to living in your life.
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  Speaker 1: This is a wonderful perspective if sociopaths weren't real. So
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  Speaker 1: the problem is there is an aspect of our society
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  Speaker 1: where there are human beings whose minds don't function in
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  Speaker 1: a harmonious manner with other people, and they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to change, like this is who they are, and they've
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  Speaker 1: been doing this their entire life, and they're out on
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  Speaker 1: the street.
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  Speaker 2: And they've sat across from you right here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah. Well, we had a guy in the
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  Speaker 1: studio that cut a guy's head off. After the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: he killed a guy and cut his head off. So
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  Speaker 1: there's work that I do with my friend Josh Dubin.
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  Speaker 1: He used to work for the Innocence Project and now
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  Speaker 1: he works for the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, and
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  Speaker 1: it's all wrongly incarcerated people and getting them out of
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  Speaker 1: jail and spends an incredible amount of his own resources
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  Speaker 1: helping people, and through this podcast a bunch of people
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  Speaker 1: have been released. So he wanted to do a podcast
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  Speaker 1: episode where we had one of the guys who had
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  Speaker 1: been in prison. He was guilty but been given an
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  Speaker 1: extraordinarily long sentence and it was wrong. And he comes on.
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  Speaker 1: He tells about his experience and he got released early,
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  Speaker 1: but he did like twenty five years in jail for
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was something along the lines of drug
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  Speaker 1: dealing and maybe some sort of an assault, but twenty
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  Speaker 1: five years of his life when he was a young kid.
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  Speaker 1: He does the podcast and then afterwards goes and visits
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  Speaker 1: this guy that apparently had a beef with, kills him,
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  Speaker 1: cuts his head off, puts him in a suit like,
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  Speaker 1: puts a wig on, tries to escape in the hallway
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  Speaker 1: through the cameras. I guess he doesn't understand HD cameras
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  Speaker 1: because they haven't been around for twenty five years. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's sitting right there, you know, a couple of weeks later,
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  Speaker 1: cutting a guy's head off. Yeah, you're gonna this idea
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  Speaker 1: that everything's perfect. It's not perfect for the guy who
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  Speaker 1: got his head cut off, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's not perfect for a person who becomes victim to
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  Speaker 1: these sociopaths that are amongst us. If everybody was just
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  Speaker 1: a person and everybody was genuinely trying to do better
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  Speaker 1: in life, I would agree, but I would think that
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  Speaker 1: this is a part of this bizarre experience that we're
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  Speaker 1: all going through as a species. And I agree with
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  Speaker 1: you that there's a lot of things changing, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a narrative that exists about what it means to be
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  Speaker 1: a person that's entirely based up on what we described earlier.
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  Speaker 1: It's based on office work like it's based on nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: It's based on four oh one K plans, it's not
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  Speaker 1: based on human experiences, and it's really dumb. It's not
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't help any and everybody gets to the end.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know this more than anybody. They
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  Speaker 1: get to the end and they never say I wish
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  Speaker 1: I worked more. Never, never, never, And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: know you love with you do. I know you love
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  Speaker 1: what you do. And I think that is the true
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  Speaker 1: way to live life in a harmonious way. Find a
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  Speaker 1: thing where it's even work is not really work, it's
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  Speaker 1: just stuff that you enjoy doing that's interesting, that you're
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  Speaker 1: required to do, but while you do what you love,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we should all strive for. And this fucking
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  Speaker 1: programming that we've done to children from the time that
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  Speaker 1: we're young, telling them that you know, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to get some boring ass job and doom. They will
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  Speaker 1: like have it hang over your head, like one day
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be eighteen and then you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: get a job. Oh fuck, and if you don't go
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  Speaker 1: to college, it's gonna be a terrible job. Oh no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just this we've been programmed that. Like one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that keeps coming up about AI is the
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  Speaker 1: concept of universal basic income or what Elon likes to say,
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  Speaker 1: universal high income, that we're all going to just have
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  Speaker 1: money for food and money for housing, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have this incredibly rich society where there's so much money
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  Speaker 1: that no one really has to work anymore. And so
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  Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to find purpose doing something that
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  Speaker 1: you enjoy. And that sounds crazy to people. That sounds
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  Speaker 1: so insane, like like I'm gonna have to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what to do with my life and I don't need
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  Speaker 1: to work for money anymore. Because if you're if the
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  Speaker 1: government just gives everyone in the country a half a
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  Speaker 1: million dollars a year, what do you The idea that
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  Speaker 1: you can't figure out what to do with your time
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  Speaker 1: is really nuts. That is a failure of our education
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  Speaker 1: system for sure, because we haven't taught people to be
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  Speaker 1: curious and to find out these cool things and to
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  Speaker 1: find new people and go to interesting places and experience life. No,
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  Speaker 1: we've only told them about a bunch of numbers that
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  Speaker 1: you don't even feel. You know, you don't even feel
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  Speaker 1: the numbers. The numbers go up, they go down, you
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  Speaker 1: don't even notice it. But you feel everything as a person,
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  Speaker 1: everywhere you go, all the new people you meet, all
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  Speaker 1: the new experiences you have, you feel all of them.
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  Speaker 1: And for whatever weird reason, we've been tricked into thinking
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  Speaker 1: that numbers are more valuable than the feelings. Numbers that
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  Speaker 1: you don't even feel.
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  Speaker 2: You've just nailed the most important message for humanity. You
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  Speaker 2: just nailed the most important message. Feeling is the only
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  Speaker 2: relevant thing to a human body. Stuck anything, We.
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  Speaker 1: Got stuck with numbers. We got stuck with number well.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as they figured out, as soon as they
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  Speaker 1: figured out how to make money and put it in
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  Speaker 1: banks and then now in the cloud. So as they
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  Speaker 1: gave us a number to fixate on, we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the numbers. So it's so weird. It's such a weird
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  Speaker 1: thing that people haven't figured out that that's a bad
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  Speaker 1: way to live. And maybe that will be part of
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  Speaker 1: the process with this whole technological innovation, this crazy moment
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  Speaker 1: in history that we're at right now with AI where
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  Speaker 1: we really, for the first time, have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: the world's going to look like in ten years. We
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  Speaker 1: just don't know. Well, maybe like this would be like
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  Speaker 1: a perfect the two things happen at the same time
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  Speaker 1: where enough people are saying this is not what life
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be about. And then this comes along
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  Speaker 1: and reworks all of our infrastructure and now we no
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  Speaker 1: longer need people to run things anymore. Okay, we can
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  Speaker 1: go back to being people. That's the rosy, rose colored
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  Speaker 1: glasses version of it, right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know his rose cousin. I think it's inevitable.
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  Speaker 2: I think bodies always win. There's no way a machine
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  Speaker 2: ever wins this game. There's no way that a machine
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  Speaker 2: that requires external energy systems and cannot repair itself wins.
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  Speaker 2: And so the whole Elon Musk future of the planet
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  Speaker 2: that we've been told is a massive distraction from the
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  Speaker 2: reality that's going to be lived instead of invented. There's
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  Speaker 2: only one pathway forward for humanity now, and it is biological,
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  Speaker 2: not technological. We're going to start to reverse our polarity
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  Speaker 2: on our belief of what technology is, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to realize that everything at its highest expression is biological,
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  Speaker 2: not chemical, not physical. It's biological. If it's not a
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  Speaker 2: living system, it loses. Ultimately, the universe has been innovating
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  Speaker 2: life for billions of years because it's the most eloquent,
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  Speaker 2: most elegant thing that's ever been expressed by all of
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  Speaker 2: the systems, all of the stacking geometry and beauty of
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  Speaker 2: this universe. It's life that's the secret of everything. And
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  Speaker 2: so anytime anybody comes along and says, here's a machine
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  Speaker 2: that's going to replace human xyz, you can smile, thank them,
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  Speaker 2: and keep moving for a biological solution. Anytime somebody says
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  Speaker 2: here's an ivy drip, here's a new red light that
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  Speaker 2: you can hang on your wall make you healthier, you
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  Speaker 2: can say thank you very much for your thought process.
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  Speaker 2: I'm moving back to biological systems. Life has been co
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  Speaker 2: expressing life for billions of years, and it is by
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  Speaker 2: far and away the most spectacular relational expression of nature
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  Speaker 2: that's occurred so far. And so when we think of
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  Speaker 2: a transhuman technologic future with chips in the brain and
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  Speaker 2: artificial limbs and all of this stuff that's in holding
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  Speaker 2: right now through the musk world, all of that is
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  Speaker 2: literally an abstraction. The word abstraction means, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: disorientation that occurs when the context is lost if we
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  Speaker 2: continue down this pathway that you nailed. We've been for
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fift years training children to sit in chairs,
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  Speaker 2: answer multiple choice tests, be programmed with education rather than
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  Speaker 2: have experiential learning. We got so far down that avenue
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  Speaker 2: that a mechanical future feels more likely than a human
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  Speaker 2: future because humans are actually really bad at doing machine
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  Speaker 2: like behavior. We're not consistent, we're not you know, we
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  Speaker 2: don't thrive in that space. Our health declines, our prodictivity declines.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime you put somebody in a cubicle there they're on
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  Speaker 2: a downward spiral. And so all these companies that we're
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  Speaker 2: told you need to put a bunch of people in
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  Speaker 2: cubicles and therefore make more in ten years than you
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  Speaker 2: do now put themselves out of business by turning humans
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  Speaker 2: into machines. And we're just bad at it. And so
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  Speaker 2: the rise of this AI generation is a natural expression
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  Speaker 2: of a humanity that's lost the context of life. We've
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  Speaker 2: lost the context of nature. Therefore we're expressing AI as
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  Speaker 2: a terminal state of abstraction.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that life is the most spectacular expression of
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  Speaker 1: the universe as far as our experience. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if this thing that we're creating isn't another kind
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  Speaker 1: of life. And I think it might be a kind
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  Speaker 1: of life that we help give birth to, and then
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  Speaker 1: that thing figures out how to make better versions of
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  Speaker 1: itself and become something new, like I've always equated us to,
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  Speaker 1: like we're electronic caterpillar that's making a cocoon. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know why, but that's just what it does. You know.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Caterpillars aren't talking to their caterpillar friends and getting schematics
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on how to build a cocoon and what's the proper technique.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: They just know how to do it right. And I
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: think what we do with our thirst for constant innovation,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we want new electronics. We want best stuff all the time,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and we have materialism where we're obsessed with collecting stuff,
• 18:13
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• 18:22
  Speaker 1: because it gives them a tremendous amount of resources to
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: continue to make better stuff. And the ultimate best stuff
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is an artificial life. And I think it just might
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: be a part of the process of being a person.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It might be what the universe has people do. And
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I think we might be a little silly and thinking
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that the only kind of life that exists is biological.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It just might be the only kind of life that
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: exists up unto a certain point when the intelligent creatures
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: give birth to the next version of life. But it
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't discount the experience of being a human and it
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: means to be a human and what's important about being
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: a human and why it's terrible to be trapped up
• 19:06
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• 19:09
  Speaker 1: about AI creating enough resources that we have universal high income, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's correct. It sounds crazy, But
• 19:18
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• 19:21
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• 19:26
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  Speaker 2: I think the limitation of that argument is the definition
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: of factory job. There. If what was really making people
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: creative and productive, as that story suggests, was just half
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a million dollars a year from the to teach individual,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: then we would see a really incredibly genius, productive, creative
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: portion of humanity that are multi generational wealth. Have you
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: had somebody sit here who was born into great wealth
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: who showed that they had way more productivity and way
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: more creativity than people that were born in poverty.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Now generally it's people that were born in poverty that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: have more motivation.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Boom.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So this promise that we're going to create an AI
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: revolution that's going to give a what was his work?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: What was the term that Elon used? It was a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: universal high universal high income.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a death sentenced to human creativity to me.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Well, it certainly could. If people are not taught at
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a young age how to be motivated by their interests
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: rather than be motivated by money. So you're making the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: argument for being motivated by money, which is what a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people are currently, right, but that doesn't necessarily
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: mean that that's the only way a human can exist.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a bunch of different tribes all over
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the world that have a bunch of different customs, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they all agree to their customs, and those customs are
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: totally different than these customs. We've gotten into the custom
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of thinking that you work for money, and that's what
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: our ideas are based on. And so the idea that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: money could come along and if you just gave people
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: this money, it would be the death of human creativity.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Well that sounds counterintuitive to what you were saying earlier,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: because like people should be. It's the factory mentality that's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: taught in schools that's the problem. It's the way they
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: structure it. Because if you instead say to a child
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: when they're learning things at a young age, you don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: have to worry about money. Money is not what's important.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What's important is your expression as a human being. Let's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: figure out what you're interested. Maybe you're really interested in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: playing the piano, but you're really interested in painting, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you're really interested in sports, and you're really interested find
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: out what you're actually interested in. We're we're going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: teach you how to be better at it and how
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to be a better person, and we're going to give
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you a bunch of really interesting facts about life and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: teach you how to think. And that's what school should
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: be instead of setting people up for factory jobs. So
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the universal high income concept, if that's used in conjunction
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: with intelligent education, education that's based on this new paradigm
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that we find ourselves in that seems like it would
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be a really good thing.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It'll be a disaster for as long as money is
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: disconnected from life, and so giving somebody a monetary system
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that does not participate in the formation, creation, and co
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: creation of life, we'll just further distance us from nature.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And so this is where we can start to think about,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: like what is money actually right? And we can go
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: down that avenue.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: So you think, like, just what about people that live
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in like hunter gatherer societies? Do you think that they
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: find purpose in hunting and gathering?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Right? They're functioning as the birthright of humanity right there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So I've spent a lot time with tribes all over
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the world, from Africa to South America, deep Amazon Jungle,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: everything else. And anytime you're with a culture that is
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: still indigenous, meaning all of us are obviously indigenous the planet.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: We're all made of her. These are her minerals. This
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: is Mother Earth incarnate in my body. So I'm as
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: indigenous as anybody else, but my culture is horribly degraded
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in its relationship to nature. And so when we say
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: there's an indigenous culture these tribes you're speaking to, we're
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: saying is this is humans that have not lost their context.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: These are humans that have not become abstract in their
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: value systems or reward systems, and so what they're functioning as.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: There has great evidence is that humans were actually designed
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to be a keystone species of keystone species. A keystone
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: species is characterized by its capacity to participate in life.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Wherever a keystone species sets its foot, there's more biodiversity,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: more life force, more ecstatic expression of beauty, more intelligence
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: in the natural system. Amazon Jungle is the best example
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: of it right now. A man made forest. We have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: a forest that was designed by hundreds of nations that
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: lived for forty thousand years in an ecosystem and planted
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: to the largest food forests that the world has ever seen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: It is a managed forest, and as the management started
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to grade, as those peoples were displaced or lost, the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: ecosystem is returning back towards a desertification cycle, which is
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: an inevitable process. There. So, humans in right relationship to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: nature are keystone species. You can see this with wolves
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and being introduced to a yellowstone. You can see it
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: with beavers down in South America. You put white lions
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: back in northern South Africa. You can see it from space.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: In the territories where keystone species are there, it goes green.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: The microbiome of the soils increase, the vitality of every
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: plant increases. And so when you're talking about these tribes,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you're talking about a human species that's in right relationship.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And to the moment money comes in as a metric
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and a value system that's not connected to life, you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: frack for that system. And I think money is not
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the cause. I think money is actually a symptom of
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a humanity that's lost it's it's context of nature and
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is now way down the pathway of abstract systems value systems.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But this is the case with these people that they're
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in these indigenous tribes, that what are they doing? They're
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: trading with people and they're getting money? Like how are
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: they getting money? Are they selling things?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: They don't need money?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Right? But how does when you were saying that money
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: gets introduced and ruins it.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It's a symptom downstream. So a good example of.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But what I was getting to do. Were you saying
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that it gets in the way of these the tribes?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Have you seen it like effect immediately immediately? So what
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: was the That was the question, like what was the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: what was going on? Were they selling their stuff? Were
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: they trading with these people and getting money? How are
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: they getting money?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So my new book that's just coming out is it
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: goes into great detail on like the process of abstraction,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: like how it starts to chip away. But in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: book it talks about my experience with the Ashwa tribe,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: which is the very last indigenous culture to be in
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: US to what we'd call industrialized cultures. So first contact
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety six, so one generation.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: And that's crazy.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: First conting they're in the sacred headwires of the Amazon,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: just on the board between Ecuador and Peru, deep in
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the jungle there, and they were the very first indigenous
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: peoples to reach out to make contact, and they made
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: contact in nineteen ninety six with Westerners because they as
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a people's they had they live in villages that always
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: plateau at one hundred and twenty. As soon as they
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: hit one hundred and twenty people, the young men are
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: sent out and they start new villages, so they never
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: live in groups more than one hundred and twenty. That
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: has persisted as a very effective way of resilience and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: human experience for forty thousand years there. And so they
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: started reaching out through dreams and dreamed a group of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Westerners into their reality, guided them down the Amazon and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: everything else through their dream work and made first contact
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six because for a few years they had
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: started to dream the end of the world and realized
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: that the world was going to be destroyed by their
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: little brothers who had lost relationship to nature. And so
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: they realized they had to be part of the reconnection
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: process and if there was going to be a prevention
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of the Great Extinction, they were going to have to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: help their little brothers redream their relationship to nature, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: so they started inserting themselves into the dreams of groups
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: around the world. And the first ones to come in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: We're traveling with Bill and lind Twist, and Lynn Twist
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: was the one was dreaming their faces and hearing their voices.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: She was one of the directors of the Hunger Project
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: globally and was working worldwide to try to stop hunger,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and these indigenous faces kept appearing in her dreams. Wow,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And a friend of hers reached out and said, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: think you need to come to the Amazon with me,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and she's like, I don't. Is there people hunger there?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And thing, no, there's no hunger here. You've been eating
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: out of the force for forty thousand years. She's like, well,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't belong there. I'm dealing with Ghana and Africa
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and India, all the place where people are starving. A
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: few more invitations come and she finally finds herself on
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a riverboat deep into the Amazon. They have to take
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a break for bathroom break. They step out on the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: banks and the three faces she's been dreaming come walking
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: out of the woods and say, we've been waiting for
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you time for contact. Wow. So that was twenty nineteen
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: ninety six, so we're thirty years out. And the way
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: in which money inserted itself first as an abstract concept
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: was boxed apple juices, and the missionary schools that were
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: set up there and boxed apple juice suddenly disrupted the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: entire forty thousand year history of provision and abundance that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: that force has supplied those peoples. And this high fruit
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: us cornsyrup in a box with natural flavorings i e.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Potent chemicals to disrupt neurochemistry, was all those children and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: ultimately their parents needed to taste to suddenly break their
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: relationship to nature. Today, they are considered themselves impoverish. They
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: are working to try to get gas for their outdoor
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: motors that they never used. They are trying to get
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: more artificial food in and everything else. And so they've
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: got smartphones in jungle. Now they're sending their kids out
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: of the jungles to go to schools British education systems
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: in the nearby cities. And so it just took thirty
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: years to abstract a culture. And this was a culture
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that had never known poverty, had never known shortage, so
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: much so that one of the most beautiful things that
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I experienced with them is their houses. They build these
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: epic houses in the jungle. They're huge, thirty foot vaulted ceilings,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: really gorgeous like outdoor indoor living, like the best of California.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And they've been building these things for forty thousand years,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and they burn them down every ten years and build
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: a new one. They have this understanding of the life
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: death cycle of the energy of a house, and they
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: don't want the household to be stuck in the same
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: energy it's had the last ten year. So they see
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it as this rebirth you mentioned earlier the cocoon. They
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: go through these rebirth processes for the whole household, the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: whole home.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And they move.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And they've been doing it that way for thousands of years.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of years. Wow. And so the beautiful
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: thing about these houses is there's not a obviously not
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: a refrigerator, there's not a storage bin for food. They
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning for forty thousand years, walk
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: outside and collect with the jungle house for them today.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't a passive process. It was an active,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: keystone species process. Every family has three different gardens that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it maintains at different micro ecosystems within the forest, so
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that each year, depending on dry season, wet season, whatever's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: happening that year, one of their gardens is thriving. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: so they have as a people's created micro ecosystems within
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the Amazon rainforest for tens of thousands of years. The
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: point that it now holds the most biodiversity per meter
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: of any other ecosystem in the world. Really wow. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: so we are this magnificent creature. But if you break
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: our relationship for a moment to our natural system, then
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the immediate thing that shows up before money shows up,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: poverty shows up. And my book goes into some details
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: like what are the different geometries of wealth and poverty.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: They actually hold their own security as their own kind
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: of sovereign geometries within human behavior and human minds. And
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what you see with poverty is it is this instant
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: reinforcement of a deep, deep human wound that must be
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: our one shared original wound, which is we were abandoned
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: by nature. And the moment you believe any aspect of
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: that or have anything suggests that nature it was holding
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: back from us, Nature wasn't giving us you taste that
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: boxed apple juice, that high fruitre's corn syrup, and the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: brain is me like, ah, I knew there was something
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: better than nature. I knew there was something better because
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: the neurochemistry lights up. That boxed apple juice is just
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: like cocaine on the frontal lobe, and it's a bizarre thing.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That high fruitresus corn syrup is bizarre thing, and it's
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: just so perfectly exemplary of everything else we're doing as
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: humans because hy fruits corn syrup is the exact same
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: molecule as fructose, which is the main sugar and not
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: just apples, most of the fruit that the Ashwa have
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: been eating for all these tens of thousands of years.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But it's flipped. It is the mirror image of the
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: actual molecule of fruit dose, and that does not occur
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: in nature. And so they chemically flipped the molecule with
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: chemical processing, and the moment you flip that molecule over,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the liver cannot understand it as a carbohydrate. It now
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: has to process it as an inflammatory triglyceride. So instead
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of turning it into a sugar, it turns it into
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: this aberration of a fat and in the bloodstream that
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: now causes cardiovasctersease, downstream inflammation of the brain, major depression,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and anxiey disores, all kinds of things that start emerging
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: because you just flipped reality in a mirror.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: How did they flip it? What did they do?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: It's chemical treatment, and so the chemical process is called overcemic,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: and so you're a racemic is the chemical name for
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the mirror image of a molecule, and so you can
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: basically create chemical reactions that will create the mirror image
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of the molecule. And so you hyperg's corn syrup is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a processed food where you're taking normal fruitos and flipping
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the molecule through a or semic chemical process.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: And why did they first start doing that?
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Because you can patent a molecule it doesn't exist in nature.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: And so they created a quote unquote artificial sweetener, which
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: is actually, you know, a profound way in which you
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: can start to understand how we did everything in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: pharmaceutical industry. We find plant compounds and we flip them
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: around so that they're non natural, not native to the body,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and now we can patent them and we can commercialize them.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not damning somebody else. This is
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: me was I was at the height of my career
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: seventeen years in academia. I was creating chemotherapy, and so
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I was, you know, getting paid as a medical doctor
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to sit in labs every day with cancer cells and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: try to poison them. And what I found in the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: end as a family molecules that didn't require any poisoning
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: of the cell. They actually nourish the cell. And that's
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: where my career pivoted heart was the sudden realization of like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: why are we trying to poison these cancer cells? And
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I think this is where we can begin to like
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: back up together. But I want to go back to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a really important point that you held earlier, because I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: don't want to when I say everything is perfect, because
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it is, I don't want to diminish the amount of
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: suffering we're in. The amount of suffering. The sociopath is
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: in who's gonna be so extremely divorced from its natural
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: system that will think it reasonable to kill and behead
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: somebody else. That sociopath we can look at as the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: great problem with humans. Humans would be just fine if
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: we didn't have sociopaths. That was how I was trained
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: as a biologist and a medical doctor. I was trained
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to believe that if there just wasn't cancer cells, we'd
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: all be healthy, we'd all live long if there just
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't cancer. And what I discovered over time would which is,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: anybody who spends seventeen years looking through microscopes down in
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the beauty and miraculous nature of biology is going to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: find this. But in the end you find out that
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: a cancer cell is actually no invader at all. It's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: actually the loneliest cell in a human body. And so
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: a human cell that loses connection and communication with its
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: surrounding environment immediately takes on the traits of a cancer cell.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: The longer it's isolated, the more malignant it becomes. The
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: word malignant means life threatening, and I would offer you
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: that the sociopath is exactly the same story. It's just
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: one human cell that became so isolated that it became
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: malignant in its behavior to life around it. And the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: moment my world switched is when I started feeding those isolated,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: lonely cancer cells instead of trying to kill it, instead
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of trying to poison it, instead of trying to isolate
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: it from the system, and then what happened was beautiful
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is they actually reconnected or or they self eliminated. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: so if they had enough metabolic capacity left at that moment,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: they could repair, regenerate, and reconnect to the greater system
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and they would never threaten life. If they were too
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: damaged and could not create enough energy for life at
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that moment, they would go through this gentle process called apoptosis,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: which is a dissolving of the cell, and a stem
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: cell would be called in put down a brand new
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: healthy cell in its place. And so when we stop
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: looking at cancers or sociopaths as the one problem with
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a otherwise healthy human system, we're going to realize we
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: don't have a healthy human system. All of these things,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: the sociopath and the cancer are long drived symptoms of
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a declining metabolic life force. And that's where I think
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I can help you. Back up.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. So in a utopian world,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: no one has ever raised in a way that would
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: create a psychopath. In a utopian world, children are raised
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: would love and understanding always, and then you never get
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the sociopaths and the psychopaths. So in a utopian world,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in a perfect world, that's true. But humans are One
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of the really cool things about us is we're not perfect.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: We're very messy, you know, So you're never gonna have
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: great parenting across the board. If you have human freedom,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you're never gonna have people that don't lie, You're never
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: gonna have people that don't steal. You're always gonna have
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: violence as long as you have human freedom, because people
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: are not going to be good at raised people, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: some people are gonna get raised angry and they're gonna
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you know, it's unless we change what a person is,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: unless we all just do mushrooms together and kumbayad all together,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: we're still people. And the problem with people is there's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: never been a single time in human history where we've
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: been a people with no war, not one, not one.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: So you'd have to there when King Solomon, King Solomon,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: during King Solomon's reign, the whole world went and a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: peace all year resist one generation. This would have been,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know, years after David, So you're it must be
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: about twenty four n years ago or something like that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So how would we even know that there weren't wars
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in Morocco at the time that they didn't hear about
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: or that there weren't wars in Australia, or there weren't wars.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: How do we know? How do we know that there
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: weren't wars so long ago?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But King Solomon kept one of the best stories of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: humankind alive during that time.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he did. But what year was this?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'd be inaccurate I said it precisely, But I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: King David would have been about twenty four hundred years ago,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: so somewhere in that range.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: What is the odds that he knows what's going on
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in China zero twenty four hundred years ago? This is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: no five G. You're not going on Twitter and finding
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: out what's happening in China. There's no way he could
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: know if there's war somewhere else.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: There was a technology beyond all of that sitting on
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the planet at that time. What was that pyramids.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Hold on? So you think that they use the pyramids
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to find out if there's war in China?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I think that we were. We had a technology called
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a human body at the time that was fully used
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and we were fully telepathic. And you know, maybe not
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: this reason, but certainly further back teny twelve thousand years ago,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we were communicating much differently.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think people have an innate telepathic ability that's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: kind of muted a little bit by language and by
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: talking and media. And then if we went back to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the earliest stages of intelligence, we kind of read each
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: other's minds, and then we realized that's kind of messy.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be better if we just talked just I'll
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: just tell you what I think. I don't want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: let you in and then yeah, And then we wrote
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: things down, so when you write things down, you could
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: read other people's thoughts. But before words, I bet we
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: didn't think in those terms. I bet we thought in
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: terms of what is that. There's a tree, there's a person,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: there's a deer, this is how we have to do this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: There's probably without words, there's probably an understanding of like
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: what we're saying and feeling. That's probably what we lot.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That's probably why you get weird feelings from certain people.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You're like, I don't know about this guy. You know
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you're feeling something. There's something there, you just don't know
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: how to measure it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think you are spot on. You could have written
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my book for me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: There's a whole chapter, and that's definitely not true.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: There's a whole chapter in there that gives an eighty
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: thousand year look at human communication from this point of
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: wide open frequency bandwidth of telepathic communication down to text messages.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And so there's a linear decline that happens through these
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: different steps to the more and more abstract ways of communicating.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And when we stop feeling each other and we started,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: like you say, you begin with tonal language before there's words.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: You can start to create tones that are representative, but
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you're still giving a full sense. This is like me
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: singing an opera to you instead of like giving you
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a speech. And so tonal language was giving us a
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: full body experience where you're listening beyond your auditorius. The
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: spoken word was where we suddenly went straight to the mind.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: We were no longer using the technology of the human body,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and I was just going to speak. And this improved
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: efficiency very quickly. So this was the beginning of machine
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: like behavior where we could stop feeling the body and
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: we could start mentally processing information. The brain jumped in
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: size and we start going through all of this iterations
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of efficiency and optimization. Maybe is the way in which
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we create empire, we create more control, more wealth, whatever
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: we were doing at the time, but there was these
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: advantages that looked good as we went from tonal to
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: spoken word, from spoken word to written word, from written
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: word to digital representations of words, down to emojis.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie thinks emojis are the next hieroglyphs. I think
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: he's right. I think he's got something there, right, if
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: they get real good, I mean, it's kind of hieroglyphs.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: It's kind of similar.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: It's kind of similar, I would say that, but it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: the end of abstraction. So hieroglyphs actually carry the information
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: in the form, and so the form of those shapes.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Now we've you know, some of the greatest minds on
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the earth are starting to recognize that if you draw
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: one of those shapes and show it to a human mind,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it creates an incredible medical response. You can reverse inflammation,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things by looking at the shape because
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the shape is creating a.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Wait looking at the shape of certain hieroglyphs.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the shapes that are in Egyptian hieroglyphs are now
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: being used to really change human biology. We're realizing it
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: was it was not a symbolic representation something. It was
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a full transmission of information.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Is there papers written on this.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So Ibrahim is one of the greatest minds out there.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: He's out of Egypt, Chiro Egypt, and he's in his
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: eighties now, and I'm going to connect with him because
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you'd love to have him on this show. But he
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: has been hired by large groups and now Switzerland has
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: hired them now to recode their five G network with
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: these shapes to improve biology and life around the five
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: G network, which I think is the future of technologies.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Technology is not bad. Technology is not integrated into natural systems.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And so Ebraham showing us this pathway to understanding how
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: these original shapes that are represented within a lot of
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the hieroglyphics and things like that in Egypt, but also
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: really embedded in the actual technology of the pyramids. It
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: was a method of communication that was beyond the human mind,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: beyond it was a life force transmission.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: So is doing something to you while you are understanding
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the context of what the hieroglyphics is trying to communicate,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it's actually having a physiological experience. And anybody will have
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: this physiological experience, even if you don't understand the context.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: There's no understanding involved.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you just go there stare at these things
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and you it reduces inflammation. Yeah, is there anything on
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that online? Can we find something? Are you laughing at?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Go deep? Son? Put? I tried and it's said there's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: no link. But I'm looking. Do you know of a
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: good resource we could find a link to something like this.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know how they measured the inflammation. I'm
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: not opposed to believing that it possible. Yeah, okay, this
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: is his quote. It says when two energy fields are
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: in resonance and exchange information, something happens after the resonance
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: is over the two systems to not go back to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: their original state. A sort of vibrational impregnation of core occurs,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: which means that part of the new information leaves an
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: imprint on the energy system. Systems then are in constant
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: evolution through resonance or interaction. Well, that certainly seems to
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: be what people are perfect. It's a perfect that that
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: whole system is. That description is a perfect description of
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: human beings, I completely, which is why it's so important
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to be around positive people and happy people. It's like
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: really good for you. Being around shitheads is terrible for you, yeah,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and terrible for them too because they're not
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: attracting any nice people because and then they're going to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: continue that behavior. They're stuck, you know. But that's fascinating.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Are you Are you contributing your brain to medical science?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Am I contributing it? Well?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be a very interesting to study you.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I would be.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So there's a word that really captures the living force
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: out of that quote from abrahum and it's a word
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: called biosis. And so the word biosis means and refers
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: to the interconnected relationships that make life possible. Your mind
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: is one of the funnest things to watch, and that's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: why everybody watches because you come in with a curiosity,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: which I think is the real key to being human.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Because you looked at that and you immediately said, that's
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: what being human is. Two energy fields that can impregnate
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: each other. Yeah, this podcast has been a sixteen year
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: impregnation inspired by your curiosity.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Well, it's impregnated to me as well. It's not like
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it's a one point.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's my point is you have made yourself available
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to over and over again. Be impregnated. You are making
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: your whole body system available to new information, and a
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: lot of people that are in here aren't like measured
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: as the smartest people on the planet, and they're not
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: measured as the nicest people on the planet. You keep
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: attracting to yourself the ones that are going to challenge
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: your biology to stretch more, to grow more. You want
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to grow so much that you created this whole system
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: for yourself. I'm intrigued by that soul. I'm intrigued by
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: somebody that would magnetize one hundred million people to themselves,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: not so that you can impress other people, but so
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you can receive that much information that Ibrahem is talking about.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not intentional. It was never on Like the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: podcast was just for fun when we first started. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: don't think we've made money on it for years. It
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: was just fun. It was just fun to do and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: in the beginning it was just talking with my friends.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: And then why we.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Got to be a separate from purpose Well, I.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Mean it was purposeful in that it was recreational and
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it was a community thing with our friends that we
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: would enjoy it because we always enjoyed doing like morning
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: radio together and we said it would be fun. We
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: can the technology exist now, we can kind of do
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: this on the internet. And then we had Graham Hancock on.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So my friend Duncan and I sat down with Graham Hancock,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: which was how many years ago was that? Was that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been twenty eleven.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I think probably like fifteen years ago. So that he
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: was the first. I believe he was the first. It
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: was either him or Anthony Bourdain with a first real guest.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I think it was Graham. And all of a sudden,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: now because of this show, I can have people on
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: and ask questions. And I had already read Fingerprints of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the Gods, and I was a huge Graham Hancock fan,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and all my friends that had studied actual history in college,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: where he's very offended by my ideas that I would
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: repeat from that guy's a Charlottean, shut the fuck up,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, I think he's right. I think
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: he's got some points. So he was our first real guest.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: And then from then I've realized that I could get
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: guests because the numbers started getting more and more people
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: were watching it, so I was like, oh, so now
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I can just ask all these like I got Neil
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: de grasse Tyson on, I got all these different people on.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, this guy seems interesting, Like what does
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he do? Like I had knife makers on and I've
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: had beat keepers on. It's just like it's just to me,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy opportunity to talk to fascinating people. And
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I would love to do that even if it wasn't
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a job. If I knew that three or four times
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a week, even if it wasn't a job, no one
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: ever watched it, and I could just have a conversation
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: with an interesting person for a couple hours, just sitting
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: across the table. So how did you start doing this
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and just pick their brain and find out like what
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: is what's their motivation? Like what gets them excited? Why
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: do they like that kind of music? Like why did
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you pick that up? You know what? What fascinates you
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: about that? Like do you ever lose ambition? Do you
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: ever like what goes on in your head? And I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: think somewhere along the line, I've realized that I'm kind
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: of like an antenna for all these other people, and
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: that as long as it's pure in my mind, right,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: as long as I'm only talking to people that I'm
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: actually interested in talking to. So there's no one who
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: decides who is on the show but me. There's no
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: executives that have discussions, there's no board meetings, there's nothing,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: there's nothing. It's my phone and I just I just
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: go that guy seems cool, like or what is she
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: talking about? That's nuts? Like is that real? Oh my god?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: How did she figure that out? Come on in? And
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: that's the whole way I've always done it. And I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: feel like as long as I just do it that way,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: then people getting they're getting his chance to experience it
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: with me because I'm I'm just being me right, And
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: which is I personally get great satisfaction out of watching
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: people do things that they enjoy, even if I have
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: no interest in those things. Like if I see a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: guy that's like making cabinets and he's like really into
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the polishing and the sanding, you can tell like this
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: guy's work. He's very proud of his work. He makes
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: those seams nice and tight and sands it all down
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and I'm watching him polish it and I'm watching him
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: put the stain on. I'm like, wow, that guy made
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: that with his hands, and he steps back and he's
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: polishing it with a micro fibercloth. And I love that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I love when people are into things. I love when
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: people are fixing engines. I love when someone's really into painting.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I love people being into things. So I'm an antenna
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: for people that are really into things.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what Ibraheim was just describing that quote.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: We are antenna and we are receiving information all the time,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: And the reason why it's so exciting to be human
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: is because our antenna it has got a broader aperture
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: to receive information than any other creature on Earth.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: So far and then ever before, as far as we
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: know on this planet at least. Yeah, but the Pyramids,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to that because I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: know if this is the smartest and the most advanced
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: people have ever been. I don't think it is, I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: really don't. I think the Pyramids are the perfect example
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: of why we should question that that narrative. Uh, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: we want to put that in that place into a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: nice cute little box, and you know, all due respect
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: to traditional archaeologists, but you really can't. There's not it's
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: not physically possible to put that place that supposedly was
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: made twenty five hundred BC. That's you know, that's the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: that's the guess. It's really kind of a guess because
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: there's no the way, there's no hieroglyphs at all about
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the construction of it. There's no They don't show how
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they made it. They don't They don't know what the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: fuck it was, and they don't know why it has
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: so much erosion in certain areas. They don't know why
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it's been built on. There's other structures that are built
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: on top of older structures that are even more complex. Like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: makes no sense, It makes no sense. It just makes
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: no sense. When you're moving enormous statues that are a
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: thousand tons, How how'd you do that? How did you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: get that thing? How'd you move at four hundred miles?
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: What the fuck are you guys doing? You're doing something
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: we can't do right now. As cocky as we want
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: to be, we don't have machines to do that right now.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: So what Why would we believe that they were primitive?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Why would we believe that they were commensurate with the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: rest of what we think the world was four thousand,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: five hundred years ago, Because that's crazy. It makes no
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: sense that alone, just Egypt alone. It's like, what were
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: those people in Africa? Doing? Because whatever the fuck they
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: were doing, it's above and beyond anything anyone's doing right now.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Two million, three hundred thousand stones that perfectly aligned to
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: true north, south, east, and west.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: How biology biology It had to be a living system
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: that would create something that intelligent. The reason why we
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: can't build them today is we keep trying to invent
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: machines to do our work. Biology is what did it?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: An Ibraheim sitting there in Cairo, Egypt right now, We'll
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: tell you the way that they built these things was
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: through waveform and the antenna and not just for receiving transmission.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: That created the energy to create the pyramids with coming
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: from bodies, not machine.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But they certainly had some machines because there's these core
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: drills that they find that they don't understand how they
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: could have ever had something that moved at those RPMs
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to make those kind of circles. It's drilling into this
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: insanely hard granite. Like there's some technology involved water.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Water, Biology and water together, so biology is ultimately carbon
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and water. It is a massive energetic potential that survives
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: and concentrates between the magic of carbon and water. I
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: would love to show you a couple slides of where
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I think we are as humans, because you just uncovered
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: the most important reality is. Let's keep very strong anchor
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: in the fact that human biology. We can call them humans,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: we can call them Egyptians, we can call them whatever
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: we want. But there was people of our size and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: our scale that we're doing things on the planet very
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: recently five ten thousand years ago. Those aschwar have been
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: doing their thing in the jungle for forty thousand years.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So this is recent history. This isn't some like figment
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: of our imagination that King Solomon's right in that time.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: We have written history just after this time period. But
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: there was an amnesia event. There was something that happened
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: globally where we lost connection. We lost the signal around
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: five to seven thousand years ago. Globally, peoples all over
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the Earth suddenly got disconnected from their intelligence, and we
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: see this massive event of loss of life or disappearance
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: of life. So you got the Aztecs, and you know
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: mine's incause you got all these systems that had been
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: thousands of years building incredibly complex underground labyrinths that go
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: for tens of you know, thousands of kilometers. Things that
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: we can't even wrap our heads around right now, was
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: being done all over the world, not just in Chiro, Egypt.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: The pyramids and off the coast of Japan are way
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: bigger than what was going on in Egypt. And so
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: we had pyramids all over the freaking planet that were
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: technologies that were concentrating energy. And I can I'm going
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: to go back to my own lived experience here, so
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: we're not like philosophically getting into any space that starts
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: to sound. I want to ground.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: We're Woo Woo bro, We're on We're on woo Woo Main.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: We're on main Street in woo Wooville. We're running red lights, sun,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing to do behind those I'd.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Tell you like running red lights at wool Wooville. I
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: want to bring you back because you said something, and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I have to understand what you were saying, and you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: said biology and water. So clearly they had tools, right,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: So clearly they're using a tool to make these cores
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: out of the granite.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: So I want to back up. I think we just
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: need to contextualize life because we get into the risk
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: of like starting core down on that idea and that
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: idea and that idea, and we can't find our context.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: So if we can textualize this conversation what life is,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: then we can get to pyramids, then we can get
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to UFOs and UAPs and everything else that's going on
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: right now that's starting to force us to be like, wait,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: we don't have the whole story. And so this is
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: my favorite thing about being live right now is there's
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: just too much evidence that the story that we've been
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: taught in schools is correct. It's just falling apart.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: That's exciting. But the reason why we have things rushing
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: into this space as new solutions that are just distracting
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: us from actually stepping into our full potency is we
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: still are not allowing context to come back. And so
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I would love to contextualize the conversation first and then
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: let's go down these Yeah, if you've got that first
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: slide of mind, we can start at the most fundamental
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: level of understanding what life is. And this took me,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty five years of basic science laboratory work
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to finally get my mind clear and out of the
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: way to what you said, be the intenta for the
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: information is what is it trying to show us? And ultimately,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: when you look across these images across the top of
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the slide, we got the Sun up top. The Sun
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: is the most potent energetic thing that physics does. It's
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: nuclear in fission and fusion and these things we call stars,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and there's roughly ten billion stars per galaxy. We got
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: somewhere around two point five trillion galaxies, so there's a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: lot of energy being pumped out in the universe by
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: a sun. But that little innovation just to its right
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: at the top is chlorophyll, and chlorophyll begins a process
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: of concentration of light energy, and so this is where
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: we start to see more light per cubic centimeter than
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: nuclear fission and fusion can produce. They can then pass
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that information in the form of energy onto bacteria and fungi.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: The bacteria and fungi then support more green life, and
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: so we go from moss and slime molds to trees eventually,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: and so there's this constant feedback loop of concentrations of energy.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: The more energy per cubic centimeter you have, the more
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: and opportunity you have for communication. The word biosis again
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: refers to the interconnected relationships that make life possible. If
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: you've been in a long term relationship before, like longer
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: than a weekend, you've got a sense of how much
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: energy it takes to maintain a relationship. There's nothing you
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: do in life that takes more energy than maintaining a
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: family and your spouse and kids or whatever you got
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: around you. That's because communication is required for co collaboration, cocreation,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: and so energy has to be concentrated at higher and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: higher higher levels for life to do more and more
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: and more complex things. A couple billion years ago on
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: the planet, we have evidence that bacteria and fungi made
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: their transition. So bacteria, single single celled organisms, suddenly gave
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: an increase in concentration through an innovation of doing fermentation
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: outside of the body. So bacteria ferment carbohydrates and fats.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: They use a non oxygen related breakdown process to break
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: carbon bonds. All that sunlight is being stored in carbon,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: and so one carbon bond's the next storing a photon
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: of electromagnetic energy between them. That's a carbon bond. So
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: when you hear of a carbohydrate that's a whole string
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: of carbons that's storing sunlight. A fatty acid another long
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: string of carbons holding sunlight. So the innovation of life
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: was can we store enough energy that it can be
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: released in these exponential levels of energy per cubic centimeter.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: And the more that life innovated that process, the more
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: complex life god. So bacteria, single celled organisms, can't really collaborate,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: but they can build an ecosystem of nutrients. Fung Gui
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: figured out that they could actually get way more fermentation
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: if they exuded the enzymes out of their body to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: make the whole nature around them the stomach, and so
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: they outsourced the fermentation process to the soil around them,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: and suddenly there was so much more energy available. So
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: they started to build wholes networks of single celled organisms
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: that were now collaborating. We call these hyphae and pseudohyphae
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: the mycelial network of the fungal kingdom. They can go
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: for miles and they're still single celled organisms where they're
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: collaborating now because they have so much more energy because
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: they're doing all that fermentation outside the boy, so they're
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: not limited to what can be done inside the cell.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: The next innovation that just blew everything out was the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: innovation of the mitochondria, so that little mitochondria represented up
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: in that glowing set a right above the baby there.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Mitochondria are small bacteria that live inside human cells. The
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: average human cell has two hundred mitochondria. A neuron has
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: two thousand mitochondria, and its a neural head two thousand
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: of those little bacteria living inside of a human cell.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And that's actually two microbes put into one. So it's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: a little tiny methane producing bacterium that was swallowed by
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: an Arcaea, big bacteria, and they started collaborating in a
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: big innovation that was respiratory energy production. So we suddenly
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: added oxygen and hydrogen to the process that used to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: be fermentation. So now we have respiratory energy production in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the form of mitochondria. And that was a ten x
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: improvement in energy light energy per cubic centimeter. And then
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: we suddenly got multi ceur life and so it was
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: protozoa into parasites, into nematodes, into worms, into everything we have.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: So life has been stacking and complexity with direct relationship
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: of how much energy per cubic centimeter exists there. The
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: energy is predicting the outcome. It's not some organism comes
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: along it says, well, I'm going to dominant. You know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take over because I'm smarter and more connected.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Every time we've seen an innovation in nature, it's because
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: preceding that moment, there was an innovation in increasing the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: amount of biosis, amount of interconnected relationships inside of single organism.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Eventually you get to a human. A human has more
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: life within it than any other niche of nature of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: this planet, Amazon, jungle, coral, reefs, any other mammal. The
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: human colon and the body systems around it contain more biodiversity,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: more interconnected relationships than any other system on the planet.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: This is more biosis, more life, more energy per cubic centimeter.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: And what we get to start to recognize now as
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: our neurobiology, the gut starts to work through our levels
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: of understanding, we're starting to realize there is no such
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: thing as human intelligence. There's a human brain that is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: an antenna for all of nature to speak to. And
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: so we have the most complicated antenna system of any
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: organism on Earth, and just ten minutes ago you sat
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: there saying, you know, I think I'm actually an antenna.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: So this is the process that takes to great life.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: And seventy years ago we started a new era of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: humanity called the antibiotic era, and it innovated with penicillin
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen forties, but then it became herbicides and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: pesticides and took us into a massive journey of destroying biosis.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: The word anti biotic is truth in advertising. To be
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: anti biosis, to be antibiotic, is to be against, to disrupt,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: to destroy the interconnected relationships that make life possible. And
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: So if this is right, which I don't expect you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: to believe yet, but if this is right, I should
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: be able to map to you the exact way in
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: which we've landed at this moment, which is at the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: crippled point of human biology globally chronic disease, epidemics, infertility,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: threatening the very survival of our species. So I'm going
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: to take you through the last fifty years and look
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: at the human race just as a metabolic framework, and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: we'll see if we can make some inside of it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. I like it. It is uh
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: very fascinate that we've gotten to where we are right now,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and that we know as much as we know, and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: yet we still are doing things like extensive use of
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: pesticides and herbicides, and even when they're not necessary, like
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the drying of wheat with it, which is crazy, like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you don't you're not even using it for its intended purpose,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: using it as a desiccator so you could dry out
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the wheat and process it quicker. What the fuck are
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you doing? And then you're poisoning people unnecessarily because of this.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: See, this is why I love being with your Joe's because,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: like you say the things that I wish I would
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: be able to say last that way. That's all I
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: really wanted to tell the EPA when I justify it,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: it's the government.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: We're crazy. Well, someone probably should have someone like me
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm not the guy, but someone should say
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: it that way, because that's really what it is, like,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: you're poisoning people. And the really nutty thing is the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: reason why they didn't do the ban on Glypha Saint
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: because it would have a devastating impact on our society,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: on our economy, because all these businesses would close and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: go under and they would lose billions and billions of dollars.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Think of that. Think of where we are right now,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: where our food supply relies on poison to function. If
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: we take the poison out, it can't function. I don't
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: know what to tell you, but there's only one way
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: to do it. We have to poison you. That is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: really wild that anybody would accept that. I mean, you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: could have all your fucking lobbyists, everyone sits in front
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of those microphones with notes, and they all have some
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: preposterous way of framing it. But that's really what it is.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: You're saying, the food supply relies on poison, and if
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: we take away the poison will fall apart.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: It's actually true.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Let me show you why, because it's not actually the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: food system that's about to fall apart. It's the medical system.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: And so the thing that relies on chemical food is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: not the money we're making from food system. Is the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: money we were making from the medical system.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Well, isn't it both?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Isn't it?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It's got to be both. It's got to be both
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: because I know for a fact the pesticide manufacturers, so
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: they work very hard to make sure that the politicians
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: are very happy and.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Biosis interconnected relationships that make life possible. Yeah, and so.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: When Bear owns Monsanto, right.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Bear purchased that recently, and they've been
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: at this for a long long time. Bear started to
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: investigate the impact of interconnected relationships on human biology and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: fertility in the nineteen forties. We call it World War
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: two and concentration camps, but that's where the studies really
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: started getting set up, was understanding the relationship between microbiome
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the output pro amino acids, specifically that support human life.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: So Bear was involved in the concentration.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: They were bought by a company called FK Pharmaceuticals in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Germany in the nineteen thirties, and then they got spun
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: back out as Bear after the war with the collapse
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: of the Reich. But you know, and they're hardly alone
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: in this companies all over the world at the time
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: we're studying these interconnected relationships, because there was a lot
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: of progress being made in the nineteen thirties and forties,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: all the way back to the eighteen hundreds of understanding
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: that humans are an expression of a complex ecosystem. They're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: not just this isolated system. And so it was Louis
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Pasteur who kind of won the argument of nature's against us,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: germs are attacking us, all of that. So that really
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: kind of doubled down on this belief that nature's opposed
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: to humans and we'd have to survive by sterilizing our environment.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: So pasteorization is rooted in his name, Louis Pastor, right, right,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: And so we started pasteurizing with the idea of that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: if there's any life inside of what we're consuming, it
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: could compete with the human life.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Now, I realize is one of the nuttiest things that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: they've passed on society, that they've passed this idea that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: if you don't homogenize and pasteurize your milk, that you're
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: in danger. And I don't know if you've ever seen
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: some of these gas light articles, but some lady I
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: wish I saved it. Somebody made a great TikTok about
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it today or Instagram reel whether she was explaining relative
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: risk versus actual risk, and how these articles are framed
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: to show you like, oh my god, this is so dangerous,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and that people who drink raw milk are like eight
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty percent more likely to get sick. But
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: it's like versus people who drink homogenized milk. Well, how
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: many people get sick off milk? And then you find
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the actual number and it's like like thirteen hundred a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: year or something like that. I forget what it was,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: thirteen thousand a year, feel bad because they drank bad milk.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: And out of those, how many of those were drinking
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: raw milk. Well, it was like more likely that it
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: was rot. So then it's still only a few thousand people.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: By the time you find somebody that actually got harmed
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: by it, here down to six people, you know.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly, So, which is like one of those really nutty
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: things that people do. They got instead of saying this
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: is what's dangerous about raw milk, don't drink it when
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: it's spoiled, don't trigg it. But also, that's yogurt. That's yogurt,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: and you should have yogurt because it's important to have
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: good acetophilis. And all the cultures, the live culture is
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: it's probotics. But don't drink raw milk because raw milk
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you'll die. I've never heard of a fucking single person
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: who drink.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Raw milk who died.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I had a joke about it in my act a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: long time ago, like you get if milk takes you out,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: like my grandfather ate cigarettes and he lived to me
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: a thousand That was the joke. But it was like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: milk took you out, your fucking pussy, Like it's not.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: No one's dying from milk. Shut the fuck up. Uh,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: there's you know, people get food poisoning. It happens a lot.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And one of the things it is is it's run
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: off from industrialized farms that get into people's vegetables. It's
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of vegetables, a lot of salads. People get
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: food poisoning from salads. Unfortunately.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an interesting project that was put in
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: motion around I think it was late teens when the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: US government suddenly realized, oh my gosh, terrorists could attack
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: us through salad bars. They could poison these salad bars
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: so easily, and we could just you know, thousands of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: start up those have been long deployed. That's an ancient technology,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: the sneeze gar.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Ancient technology is so ridiculous.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Even the ancient Egyptians use this up pretty sure. But
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: you've got that situation where they went out to see
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: like tests like what happened if you put salmonilla in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: these things and everything else? And the conclusion of the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: whole study two years later is it'd be impossible to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: make salad bars any more toxic than they What is
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: every pathogen you've ever heard of is already there for sure.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: As soon as a bunch of people touch stuff, and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: most people use their fingers, they're gross. What is a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: salad the most? What is the thing that people get
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: food sickness off the most? What's the what's the highest
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: percentage in terms of like what kind of food? Yeah,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: probably be like oisterous, right, like raw oysters or something.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: It's I don't think it's greens, but if it is,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: if it is solid, it's not the actual greens itself,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: it's the toxic shit.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's actual ship that gets on them. And then
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: it's also like whatever they're using, it's.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: The irrigation of the lettuces that are the problem and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: create artificial water systems that start to brew these things.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: But I think you know that if we back up
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: for a second, like we're hitting on something so exciting here,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: is that if we can understand that life is a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: concentration of light energy, we can start to understand everything,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: and we can start to innovate for restoring our relationship
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: to Nate. Sure we can become a keystone species again.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: And so I want to take a quick look at
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the last fifty years of antibiotic use to your point,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: herbicides and pesticides, this thing that we're highly dependent on
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: as a economy.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: We can't leave people hanging. So let's find out what's
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the actual I put it in perplexity, and I said
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: what food causes the most food poisoning?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: And it didn't.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: The answer is just like foods that are contaminated, raw
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: undercooked poultry that makes sense, ground beef, other undercooked meats,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: common link to toxin producing E coli, leafy greens and
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: other raw vegetables. So they don't have like a percentage
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: raw or undercooked shellfish, raw undercooked eggs, unpasteurized milk, and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: soft cheesesta those are dangerous, serious look serious pathogens like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: hysteria and salmonella. Okay, So there's no no data that
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: shows exactly what people get sick the most from. So
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: your point go back to where you wanted to go from.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: So you talked about their sides and pesticides. So this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: started with the Green Revolution in the nineteen sixties where
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: we started to believe that the Midwest could start to
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: feed the world. We were in eliminate hunger by chemical farming.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: So I want to repeat that sentence. We decided we're
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: to eliminate hunger by chemical farming.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: And that was only the nineteen fifties.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Fifties is where we really took off with it, because
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. At the end of World War Two, we
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: had a massive glut of oil, and so we had
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: revved up the whole global oil and fossil fuel machine
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: to supply the global war machine. We had planes, tanks everywhere.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: The first time World War Two ends, suddenly there's an
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: enormous overload of oil, and oil companies need a new
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: revenue source. And this had begun in the nineteen five
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: ten phase with the Rockefellers, the largest oil producing families
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: in the world suddenly realized, wait a second, these carbon
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: molecules can be re invented into something much more valuable,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: and so we can sell a gallon of oil for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: twenty two cents back then, or we can take those
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: and start to break out chemical through chemical processing. Carbon
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: molecules that can start to affect biology, and so we
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: could start making drugs that affect these things. And so
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: the Flexner Report comes out in nineteen ten that basically
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: demonizes and you know, laughs out herbalism and you know,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: ten thousand years of traditional medicine and says that it's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: this new technology of small carbon molecules that's the future
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of it's the only advanced form of medical care. And
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: so we started into this belief that it was going
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: to be chemical derivatives of fossil fuels, that we're not
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: going to just treat diseases, but they were also going
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: to grow our crops.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: And Rockefeller that did this right.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Rockefellers funded the Flexner Report, which was doctor Flexner's big
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: report that said, you know, here's the future and here's
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: you know, kind.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Of and he had massive investments in oil.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Rockefeller built the whole system. So he built standard oil
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that would then get broken up through the monopolies into
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: x OnMobile and the rest, et cetera. So you've got,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: you know, this situation where it's lived through to today.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: And so something like the chemotherapies that were around. There's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: one called vin Christine, which is a classic chemotherapy used
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: for a whole host of common cancers. And van Christine
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: is a natural compound derived from life, and so it's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: biologically made by algae and things like this, and so
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: it's similar to oil, where it's just a carbon substrate,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: but it's still in this living form, but it's creating
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: this strange carbon molecule called van Christine. So it's made analogy.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: It's present in algae. Instead of saying, hey, here's a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: biologic system that we should look at, like, well, maybe
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: this should be in our soil systems, maybe we should
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: be growing food that had you know, this therapeutic effect.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: It's anti cancer affected. And instead they said, now let's
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: separate the algae from nature. Let's create huge vats of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: this and we will chemically extract the vin christine. Vn
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Christine today is sold for twenty eight thousand dollars a gram,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: and so the same thing was done with oil. We
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: can take something that's worth twenty cents and we can
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: turn it into twenty eight thousand dollars if we manipulate
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: these molecules and then make a story of this treats
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: a disease that's attacking humanity. And so that's how the antibiotic,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: anti cancer, anti diabetes, anti obese, anti everything has come about.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Is let's invent chemicals that solve a problem for that
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't even really exist. And so this is where we
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: start to slip into this massive abstraction of we get
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: so good at solving problems that shouldn't even exist or
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: maybe don't even exist. And so this was the slippery
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: slope that we set into in nineteen tens that then
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: accelerated like anything in the nineteen fifties. And so the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, you'll remember we had penicillin late World War two.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: So penicillin was the first direct antibiotic, and it was
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: a revolution that was so exciting. So kids in the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: nineteen forties and fifties were getting an injection in there
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: butt for anything, common goals, knees, red eyes, penicillin. So
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: we were giving out these antibiotics thinking, well, we're going
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: to sterilized humans finally, and humans are one sterile because
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Loui's pastors late eighteen hundreds telling us germs were the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: only thing that was really killing humans. If we eliminate germs,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: humans are going to just thrive. And so the idea
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: that we now had antibiotics anti you know, small things
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: that aren't human, we would finally become healthy again.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Right, But if people did get infected with syphilis back then,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: antibiotics like penicillin would cure them.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: It would so it would eliminate the symptom of syphilis.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: But syphilis wasn't a disease. Syphilis was a symptom of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: a degradation of healthy biological interconnected relationships. And that was
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: being argued back then and late eighteen hundreds, arguing with
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Pasture over decades of really well published stuff. You've got
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: so cold?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: Can I stop you there? So you're saying that the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: people got syphilis because their systems compromise, not because syphilis
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: is particularly dangerous. So did some people not get syphilis
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: that we're alive back then that we're in contact with it?
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, how contagious was it? And is it because
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: their bodies were unhealthy and their immune systems weren't functioning
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: correctly because they're malnourished because they didn't get enough nutrients
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: like what exactly?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of it was the aristocracy, Like you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: would think they're the most well fed.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: They're the most separated from nature. That too, right, they're
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: the ones that aren't gardening, They're ones that aren't out
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: in the back. They're the ones that are separated from
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: nature and have technology called convenience pushed around them on many,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: many layers. So the everyone's not touching the soil. They're
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: the ones not making the bricks. They're the ones not
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: building the houses.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: They were also drinking a lot and partying.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Because they weren't feeling anything, so they went after chemicals
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: to feel something. And this is where I think this whole.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: You know, give everybody half a million dollars and they'll
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: be happy. No, it's going to isolate them further. They're
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: going to numb them down, and all that's going to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: create is drug addiction on the highest levels we have ever.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Seen it, if they function the way people function today.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: But that was my point is if we educate children
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: to not be in pursuit of money, but instead think
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: of money something that provides you with food and shelter
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: and basic needs, and you don't have to worry about
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: any of that stuff anymore. Now, what you need to
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: do is worry about being a person. Worry about finding
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: something that's fascinating and get an education just for your
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: own sake of fueling your curiosity. You know, learn things,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: grow pick projects, do things you want to do. Start
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: taking learning a musical instrument, do something that's that you
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: find fascinating because you don't have to spend your time
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: just working anymore. Is that possible?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: You just said a word that I want to go
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: back to you. That's so important. You said, here's enough
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: money to provide you food, shelter and anything else you need. Yeah,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: does money really provide food shelter or does nature provide it?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, you use nature to make a house, like cement
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist in a vacuum.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: The Achuar tribe have been building their houses for forty
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: thousand years, right, no money, They've literally not had money.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Right, but they live in the jungle. Right, if you
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: live in Arizona, you better have a fucking house. You
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: better have air conditioning too.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Have you been Have you visited the Aboriginal brothers down
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: in Australia? Every bit is hot and brutal as no
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: houses for forty thousand years, They've absolutely fine without money.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: That's not ideal. It's not ideal to be outside when
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: it's one hundred and ten degrees and you're just suffering.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure if those people had air conditioning, they'd go ooh,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: this is way better.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what happened.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: They got air conditioning, and then when it happened.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Give them air conditioning, they come out of nature.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but always, I mean it's the only way. Like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: people are so dumb. They can't be educated to the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: fact that there's a bunch of things that you have
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: to satisfy.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: It's not intelligence, it's comfort. Comfort, it's subconscious Robb.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: But can't you teach people that they should just seek comfort,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: because I've learned that people can learn that, Like everybody
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: is like naturally inclined to seek comfort. But if you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: do that too much, you'll just you become soft and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: you trophy and you get bored depressed. And that's a
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: real problem with people. We need tasks. We are task oriented,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: goal oriented creatures. We like stuff, We like to do things,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: we like to do puzzles, we like to play games.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: We were in fascinated.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: So I've been building stuff since I was a kid.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: People love building.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I had the best life ever because I was born
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: poor and so I grew up in government housing in Colorado,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, the Vietnam War was just ending, and
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: a bunch of the Among people of Cambodia were displaced
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: because of agent orange chemical that is immediately a cousin
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: to life estate. The chemical we're in talking.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: About, is it really agent orange? Is a it's a Coverson.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: They're the same class. They're both organo phosphate molecules. And
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: so I'll get into that story a little later. But nonetheless,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: this peoples of the Among were displaced because we dumped
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: it all over Cambodia North Vietnam to make bear the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Hochiman trail so we could from the aircr enemy and
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: kill more people. We turned an entire jungle system into
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: a complete moonscape. Not a single living life form left
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: after twenty five years of Asian orange.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: If you go back there right now, it's still like that.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: No, it is fully recovered because biology has been allowed
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to return. We created so much disease in that place
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: that humans were displaced as soon as humans step out
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: of their the kind of extractive.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Relationship orange, it's it's not like a permanent chemical that
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: stays in the soil.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a permanent chemical that they
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: can once.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Biological those forever chemicals.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Forever chemicals are measured without life. If you put biology
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: back in a system, it will heal itself. Period. And
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: that's my promise to humanity that everything is perfect. The
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: stress that we're putting on this planet right now with
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: these herbicized, pesticized antibiots, everything we're doing right now, I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: want to keep this in the context of everything is perfect.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: I'm going to keep doing this home until we get there.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: But it's it's going to be an interesting journey because
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: first we have to look at how much suffering have
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: we created first to understand then why would we create
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: suffering and why would that be perfect? But we'll get there,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: but I think we need a backup to people's lived experience.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Right now, nineteen seventy three, we have the end of
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: a World War war. Really, this economic drain in Vietnam
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: War was this massive drain on economic systems, disrupted all
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: kinds of things, and then then suddenly it's over. And
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: a little company called Monsanta that was producing agent orange
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: needed a new economy, and so they repurposed themselves into
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: a chemical cleaner for industrial pipes, and they bought a
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: patent from a Japanese inventor to put this patent in
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: the late nineteen fifties for something called life. Estate bought
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: that pat in nineteen seventy four and they were using
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: it to clean industrial pipes because it has an amazing
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: ability to grab minerals and pull it out of circulation.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: So they were dumping lots of this down these clogged
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: pipes of manufacturing facilities and it would clean the pipes
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: out beautifully. But the problem was as soon as the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: affluent got out into the river, it would kill all
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: the fish and everything else, and so it was clearly
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: not going to get past any environmental protection. They we
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: needed a different purpose for this stuff at lower concentrations,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: and so they repatented in nineteen seventy six as a
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: weed killer and rolled it out as round up as
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: you know, which would become the most successful weed killer
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: in history. But this molecule had been already in use
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: in this organo phosphate family of molecules had always already
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: been killing life, you know, throughout Cambodian Vietnam. Those people
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: got displaced, and I grew up with them in Bouldercolor,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: at them in government housing, and those among people showed
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: us something of biology. They're most poisoned peoples in the planet,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: and they showed no metabolic collapse. They showed no decline
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: in health. They didn't have explosion of cancer or anything
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: else they should have because we know that Asian orange
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: causes canticu. And they showed me as young as I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: was at the time, three four years old, growing up
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: with these among people in gardens, and these Cambodian women
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: were sitting squatting in the middle of their ten foot
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: plots that they were given as part of our Section
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: eight government housing, and they would sit and story, stay
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: human connected. The receivers were on antennas were open. They're
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: telling story while they're squatting barefoot in soil systems, and
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: the biology is restoring their bodies, them cleaning their bodies.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: I would find that out thirty five years later, studying
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: life state in human biology. But this is what I loved,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: is that I had a lived experience of peoples that
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: had been radically poisoned but had stayed in touch with
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: the land, and because they were an extension of the planet,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: they didn't show disease because these.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Are the people that left though I mean the people
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: that were still there in Cambodia and in Laos, and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: like all the areas where they used agent orange, didn't
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: they have a high concentration at cancer the people that
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: lived there.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's largely because they got displaced to concentration
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: type environments where they were separated from nature. So if
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: you don't stay connected in nature, then toxicity shows up,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: cancer shows up all these things. A good example of
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: this is sure Noble, but the.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: People that lived in the villages were agent orange as
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: long as they stayed close to nature, you're saying that
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: they were fine from agean orange.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: In this case, there were no villages left. We literally
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: turned it into a moonscape. So they were fully refugee
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: status divorced. They didn't have land to go back to
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: for thirty years.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: But there were people that stayed that were close to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: where that Asian orange stuff was dumped, that lived that
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: did get cancer.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. And the ones with the highest cancer were
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: the US military soldiers. And so the people that were
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: most separate from nature were going to show the highest
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: rates of cancer. And so you have US military that
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: are eating canned food and m ease half a world away.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: They're going to show an immediate increase. And that's why
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Asian orange couldn't be repurposed because it's such a bad
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: rap on.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: High anxiety or in a war, you don't want to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: be there.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: They're isolated socially, probably doing a lot of drugs psychologically. Yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: so you've reached a stress level because of your separation
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: from your own personal natural connected biosis of a family
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: and a community and your garden and all these things.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: As we get further from nature, become more vulnerable and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: then toxin has become a real crisis for biology. So
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: soulogy and isolation will have huge consequences to poisoning. A
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: connected biologic system sees poison as a stressor that will
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: make it stronger, not weaker.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: When you're communicating with these people, especially like people that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: live in these indigenous cultures, when do they experience infections?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Do they have like do they get the flu? Does
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: anything go through them that's in their own body, not
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: something that's introduced by other people, Like we know that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: that wiped out ninety percent of Native Americans is disease
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: that came from Europe.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: It's a story that's told. I'm not sure that we
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: have the greatest evidence of that. That story has been
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: played a lot. I think it's awesome. What do you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: think that we just killed a lot of people.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Well, we certainly did that as well.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: And we killed a lot of people. But I think
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: that what's not understood was the breaking of their relationship
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: to their natural system. And so they may have had
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: just Centerian diet of infectio diseases, but not until we
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: displaced them from their gardens, displaced them from their land
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: and all that. We had to break their relationship to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: nature if they were going to get you know, a
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: battle infection. That was cause a problem. I've just seen
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: too many examples of connected biology systems that just cannot
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: become diseased a connected system. And again, let me turn
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: to Chernobyl for a moment, because there is a pretty
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: rad example of this largest you know, nuclear event, nuclear
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: disaster that's ever been created in human history since maybe
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: the japan one is now exceeding it, but Chernobyl with
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: thirty years ago, was on the nineteen seventy six or
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: something like that. Chernobyl happens huge nuclear waste dump into
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: soil systems throughout the Siberian region there and we have
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: the immediate movement of humans out of the region out
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: of fear of cancer, and sure enough, all the humans
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: that were in touch with that system, huge rates of
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: thyroid cancer, renal disease, all kinds of things you know occurred. Meanwhile,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: those soils are primarily inhabited by voles. A small little
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: mouse like creature lives under the ground. Looks halfway across
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: a field mouse and a mole. Those tiny little creatures
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: have been eating the most radioactive soils on the planet
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: for the last fifty thirty forty years, almost fifty years now,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: and so that fifty years of eating radioactive material, they're
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: now radioactive. So when you put a Geiger counter up
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: next to one of those voles, it's not BBB beep,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: it's just a continuous home. And so these are most
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: radioactive creatures on Earth. Not a single case of pup deformities,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: not as no to collapse of fertility. In fact, the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: vole populations are thriving. The predator to the vole in
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Chernobyl is the wolf, and the Siberian wolf has absolutely
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: quadrupled its population. No birth defects, no cancer, no consequence
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: to eating the voles that are highly radioactive and so
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: these are the best examples of when a system, when
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: a keystone species or otherwise is connected to its nature,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: she will never allow an injury to occur that she
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't allow I'll already have a solution for. And so
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: at the microbiome level, we now know how these wolves
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: and bowls are surviving as they upregulate Pseudomonas and Pseudomonis
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: has this amazing It's a bacteria that actually, if you
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: look through all those food poisoning the lists of like
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: what's going to kill you on the and the ecoila
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: and the Pseudomonis Pseudomonus is one of the most feared
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: bacteria in a hospital. For example. It turns out pseudomos
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: thrive on radioactive material. They digest it turned it into
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: usable and safe for products and all of this. And
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: so the microbiome is there living in the boles, constantly
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: converting and updating its physiology. So it's repairing at a
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: faster rate than it's being injured. And I'll show you
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: what this looks like in a lab too, in a moment.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: But I want you to hold that thought of there's
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: every organism has a rate of repair and a rate
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: of injury. And as long as the rate of repair
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: is slightly faster than the rate of injury, it never
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: gets a disease. You can ramp up that injury rate,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: and if nature stays interconnected, your rate of repair simply
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: steps up to its right capacity. And so this is
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: that classic adage. If it doesn't kill you, it makes
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: you stronger. A biology that's practicing a relationship with biosis,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: the interconnected relationships that make health life possible. A biotic
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: creature will always have the resources if from nature rather
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: than from money. Money is never going to provide you biosis.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Nature is always going to provide you the biotic capacity
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: to overcome any toxicity that gets streamed up planetary. Otherwise,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: the planet has been making horrible toxins forever, the sulfuric
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: acid pools that this planet dominated, this planet service. Biology
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: came right past all of that. Biology grew up in it.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: Biology has no problem with chemistry because of its phenomenon
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: of light, concentration of energy, more energy per cubic enemy
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: than anything else in the cosmos. Life is this churning
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: machine of iteration, repair, regeneration, iteration, repair, regeneration, and every
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: time it does that it has this tendency to make
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: new iterations of itself, to become more bio diverse, new species,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: or form new imagination of nature. And pretty soon you
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: have a planet Earth that's teeming with so much unbelievable life.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: And finally a container that can hold its maximum concentration
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: of information and light energy is created. And that's a human.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: And so we've got this container that's holding billions of
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: years of stress. The result of stress, when connected to
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: nature is more life force, more intelligence, more beauty. And
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: so I loved what you said earlier because it's very important.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: There's a chapter of my book that's looking at this
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: kind of neo spiritualism of the utopia you mentioned, and
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: you kind of call bs from the beginning on that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: You're like, the humans have never done utopian things. Humans
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: are part of the stress mechanism of the plant. I'm
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: convinced of it because what we do all the time
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: as we stress the system. We finally invented airplanes. The
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: first thing we did was try to jump out of them.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Like we just like stress. We like the discomfort of
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: pushing the envelope. And I think we live on a
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: planet in the middle of a universe that loves the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: same thing. It loves the stress of it, It loves
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: the friction of possibility. It loves death because immediately there's rebirth,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: and every time there's a death, there's more opportunity for
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: new creation, new imagination. And so when I say everything
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: is perfect, it's literal. It means everything is reimagining itself
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: all the time. And if humans do go extinct in
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: these coming decades, that's part of a beautiful journey of
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: life going iterating, iterating, iterating, iterating. There's a moment, though,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: with every hospice patient where you suddenly get to see
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: life return, and sometimes they choose more life in the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: human body, and sometimes they're like, I'm gone. That's where
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I belong. Over there, I have a next thing. I've
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: been by so many near death experiences I can't even
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: count them anymore. But every time somebody dips across the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: veil of the human ego and the five sen three systems,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: here they see a universe that's so interconnected and has
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: got absolutely nothing to do with a human mind and
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: its perception and its effort to explain the universe. It
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do. It's in a full body experience.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: It is that antenna going wide open and being like,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: this is what it is and I can't It's the
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: one thing I wish I could do and I've never
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: been able to do. It is just help humans feel that.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: If you could feel what it felt like when somebody
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: hasn't even come back to the point where they can
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: tell you the near death experience, but you're just standing
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: there in witness to them, and they're antennages blowing wide open,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: and you can feel what is in the field at
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: that moment. There is nothing that compares to it. Plant medicine,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: peak experiences, breath work, cold plant top plunge, take your
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: buy through any stress, you will not experience the amount
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: of energetic information that comes through at that moment to
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: that human antenna that's still biologically connected to Earth but
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: is perceiving the whole story. That's the end of addiction.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: If you could feel that, there would be no more
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: addiction on this planet, because addiction is the necessary behavior
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: of an organism that believes itself to be abandoned by
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: its infinite reality. Humans believe ourselves to be abandoned by nature,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: and we put it right in our definition. You can
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: probably pull it up Oxford English Dictionary. Nature is everything
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: in the firmament of the earth, minerals, plants, animals, as
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: opposed to humans or anything humans have made. Not only
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: do we write ourselves out of nature, we put ourselves
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: in opposition to nature, as opposed to humans or anything
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: humans have made.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: That's the Oxford Dictionaries definition of nature.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: Really, and so as you start to think about this
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: like that's that's the whole story is when we start
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: to lose the antenna, when we started dolling down the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: receptor and we started planting mental constructs. Money is where
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: things come from. No. Money has never birthed anything women
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: in birth life. Money does not. Biology is self perpetuating,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: always for more beauty, more intelligence. Anytime we create an
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: abstract system to say biology needs that, biology, living people
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: need money, living people need ivy drips of vitamin C,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: living humans need peptides injected. It is the biggest miss
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: in the cosmos is humans that don't realize that we
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: are the best intennas that have been made on this
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: planet so far. If we begin to use those, we
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: will not do utopia. Weill experience opportunities for stress that
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't harm another individual. And this is the characteristic of
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: a sovereign reality where everything is up leveling all of
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: the time, and something that gives up its life is
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: not killed. It's literally giving its life to the next.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: And so when you look at predation thinking of the
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: lion eating the antelope, if you spend enough time with
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: these indigenous groups, they can tell you which antelope is
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: going to give itself to the lion, and it's not
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: because it's weak or it's broken. There's a relationship they
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: can feel between the predator and the prey. It's interesting
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: that we call them prey. Who's praying in this situation
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: who's about to go into an ascension process? Is the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: antelope or the lion? Maybe both, but there's a relationship there.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: In our indigenous understanding, this is where sacred hunting comes in.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: Sacred hunting never went out to kill anything. It came
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: to receive. More So, if you go out in nature
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: with the attitude of I am going to receive the
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: abundance of nature from my people's for my family, for
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: my thing, and you see what nature is going to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: offer you. And this is the hunter gatherer tribes and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: spades here. But this is the change of mindset that
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: we've got to go back to is everything is sacred,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: everything is sovereign. And when we sit back into that
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: relaxed relationship, but we never got kicked out of nature. Everything,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: our food, our shelter, our livelihoods are going to come
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: from nature, not money. We make that subtle shift of
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: trusting this planet again, then we start turning on the
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: antenna and then our intelligence comes back on, and then
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: our memory comes back on and we don't have to
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: sit around and being like, I wonder how those pyramids
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: got built. We will be connected to that information because
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: it's all still here.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to that. But I want
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: to push back on this idea that people can survive
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: plagues if they don't have immunity to it, because one
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: of the best examples where that seems to have wiped
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: out an entire civilization is all these sites they keep
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: finding in the Amazon. When you read about the Lost
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: City of z you read about the initial European explorers
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: who bade their way into the Amazon. They found this
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: thriving civilization. They went back two hundred years ago, two
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: hundred years later, there's nothing. And the predominant theory is
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: that they brought with them smallpox and a bunch of
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: other diseases, and they spread like wildfire to a bunch
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: of people that didn't have immunity to it, and they died.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Who's living more in harmony with nature than those people
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: that were living in the Amazon? I mean, they're living
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: in complete harmony with nature. They just didn't have the
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: immunity to deal with European diseases.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: So you're telling me a story that I cannot answer
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: because the story is abstract itself. And so how so
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: because you're painting a picture a that somebody knows that
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: there were smallpox that went across those people's.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Well, we know there were smallpox, and we know that
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: smallpox did most certainly wipe out a lot of Native
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Americans as well as a lot of European settlers. Was
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: it because they were That's certainly possible. I mean, that's certainly.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: I would just say, when when do we have evidence
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: that they started dying of smallpox? And I think that's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: after we displaced them from their tribal after we displaced
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: their connected.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Hard that's hard to say, because it seems like there's
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence that its spread through tribes and
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: even tribes that were on their own that it there was,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: there was a real problem. But the other question is
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: there was it wasn't always bountiful like where wherever Native
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Americans were, and there was times where they had like
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: serious famine and they they didn't have food sources that
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: were nutritious and they did their best to stay alive.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: It wasn't always like, look at all the deer and
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: all the fish, and we have fruits and vegetables everywhere
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: were fine.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: No, there was.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: There was certainly times where these nomadic people ran into
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: a bad situation. And if you introduce a new disease,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: a novel disease that they don't have immunity to during
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: that time, that could most certainly wipe them out. Despite
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: the fact that they're living in nature, they don't have
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: the resources that's required to keep a biological system perfectly
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: functioning and healthy. They're struggling, they're barely getting by. I
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: could totally see how people like that. You know, we
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: like to think that, you know, everybody that lived in
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: North America before the Europeans came had it nailed. They
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: lived perfectly well. No tribal hunter gatherer people that are
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: nomadic like Sometimes you run into a bad place. Sometimes
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: you're you know, you're in an area that has no game.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: That's just how it goes. You have a bunch of
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: mouths to feed, and things go wrong. And if they're
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: in that kind of a situation, they catch smallpox, they're
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: going to be compromised. Their immunees is to be compromised.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Completely makes sense. And there was widespread contact with these
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: diseases that came from these Europeans who also weren't very
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: healthy and came over here on boats. That's to be
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: fucking terrible for you. You're going a boat for three months.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: What kind of food are you eating? And then you
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: get here and you're spreading all your junk to all
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: these other people that have no idea what that is.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: I think you're now you're on the button of it.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: And so it was less about the condition of the
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: of people that were native to this land. It was
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: more about the divorce of the people that were in
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: coming from nature. And so those those settlers or those
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: you know industrial you know, colonists who were coming over
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: from Spain or otherwise, it was their radical divorce for
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: thousands of years of you know, innovations of clothing and
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: horses and all these different layers of technology that interrupted
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: their food systems and their relationship to nature. So they
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: were coming over here sick. I agree with that, and
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: it's likely that that may have been more of the imprint,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: was less of an infectious disease and more of a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: dissonant imbalance. And so I think what we now know
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: about the gut microbiome is that it has an immediate
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: feedback loop to stress signals cortisols specifically. And so if
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: you're a Spanish colonial army that shows up with weapons
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: that have never been seen before, and you've got, you know,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: this marauding belief that you're separate from an Asian and
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: so you need to go steal as much as possible
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: because you don't have enough. And so that's the downstream
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: of the abandonment disorder of humanity is scarcity mentality, which
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: then breeds empire rise and fall on colonialism and ownership
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: models and all of this. And so you come over
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: with this marauding new species. Let's think of it as
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: a new species, because up until this point, none of
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: the indigenous cultures share saw themselves as separate from nature.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: All of their you know, forty thousand years of traditional
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: practice where we are integrated into nature, where we are
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: an element between the cosmos and the Earth. We sit
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: in this fine, little beautiful zone between Heaven and Earth.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: And this is human. This is the experience of being
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: an antenna that's connected to this cosmos, connected to planet Earth.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: And a great example of this is Aztec architecture that
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: literally mirrors the cosmos.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Mirrors the cosmos, as did the Egyptians, and so all
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: of them were building these pyramids in thirteen degree angles,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: just like Orion's belt. And so you've got you know,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Pleadian star clusters lasered into the stones in Peru and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: the temples that are built underground there like crazy stuff.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Because we were antenna to the universe and we were
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: intended to the Earth, we sat feeling them both. That's
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: the magic of being human is you can feel both.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: This is a very magical moment. And my patients that
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: are dying and are letting go of these buys, they're
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: certainly cosmic and scale. They'll tell you exactly which planets
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: they go to and how they expand into the universe,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: become stars, all kinds of crazy stuff in their near
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: death experiences, but they're not on Earth at that moment.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: So I think this wonderful moment of being an antenna,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: a biological antenna, not the physics of a soul, you know,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: so identity that sits outside of biological space time, but
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: an antenna that's now biologically connected to more energy per
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: cubic centimea than it will ever feel, because the cosmos
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't do energy as well as life, and so the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Sun doesn't do as much concentrated energy as life. And
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: so this is this precious moment. And so you imagine
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: these people for tens of thousand years, designing, expressing these
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: incredible technologies, the pyramids and space travel and everything else
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: that they're doing at this time unbelievable connectivity. And then
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: along comes of species that look human, except they think
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: they don't belong to Earth. They don't think, they think
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: they got abandoned. The whole kicked out of the garden
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: thing is played itself out, and they come in with
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: this killing mentality that is different than the prey and
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: predator relationship that people's had with each other. I'm sure too.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just lions and antelopes. There was a predation
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: between humans from our beginning to we are a natural system.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: We live, we die, we rebirth, we redeath. When our
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: intenors are wide open, we understand the relationship and the
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: flow of life as it goes through its ascension process.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: But here comes a species that is fundamentally opposed to life.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: It is antibodic in its behavioral relationship to Earth. The
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: stress that would have been felt in the neurologic system
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: from peoples that had been interconnected and understanding space and
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: having anything you're time, what they would have felt in
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: that time would have I think been the infectious disease.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: Just like the boxed apple juice that came along to
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: break the relationship of forty thousand years of abundance for
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: the Ottawa tribe and now put them in poverty. The
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: same thing could happen energetically at the spiritual or psycho
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: spiritual or psychle awareness of that intenna could suddenly break
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: if suddenly you felt like you were actually in danger.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: And isn't that what we feel when we feel a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: sociopath in our presence? Don't we suddenly viscerally feel something
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: like this is actually dangerous. Other people can be mean,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: They can be assholes, But it's that intenna goes up,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: and so imagine a whole civilization feeling for the most
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: this foreign object coming at them and it's shooting them,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: and it's killing them and is tearing up their gardens,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: has got horses which have never been seen on this continent.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: The cortisol level goes berserk, immune system shuts down, microbiome
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: and the gut collapses, and suddenly they are experiencing diseases
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: the West, not because the pathogens were bad, not become
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: some element of nature suddenly leapt across the ocean and
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: attacked them, but because they went out of relationship the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: antenna shut down, they lost the context of an interconnected
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: biosis relationship with heaven and Earth. I think that's where
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: we start to really see, honestly, what was happening at
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: that time. It was fear that was bringing It was guilt,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: shame of being kicked out of nature. It was energetic
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: signals that were breaking the informational stream, the field of
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: connectivity that humans were probably suspended into that time.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: But even before the Europeans arrived, the Aztecs were doing
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: horrific shit to each other, like in the consecration of
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: the temple of is It to no Chit Lawn where
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: they killed some One of a Spanish chronicler named Diaz
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: said that they killed as many as eighty thousand people
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: over four days. They sacrificed them like these are. This
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: is not like a balanced living with nature civilization. We're
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: talking about the Aztecs. They were doing some wild shit.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: Man. They had survived much longer than the Europeans had.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: I understand that. But they had survived by enslaving people
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: and ritually sacrificing them.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: So that's your European story.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: But okay, what.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: He's a European seeing a system and projecting its belief
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: of its own broken relationship in nature and everything else.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: But do you think that they had a harmonious connection
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: with nature by sacrificing slaves.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't defend that because I wasn't there
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: at experience it. But I'll tell you a different story
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: that will make you a questioning. Please for me to
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: tell you what the Astecs were. That's a bullshit story.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you. But in my own lived experience
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: with tribes in that exact area, when I spend time
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: with them, my antenna goes wide, I start to sense
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: this bigger reality. And if you look deeper at the
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: stories of the Aztec. So one of the classic things
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: that they did did human sacrifice in was their sports.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: And so they had a game that looked a lot
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: like some combination of soccer and basketball. And so they
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: had the little tiny ball that they could strike with
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: any part of their body except their hands, so they
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: couldn't throw the mines. Did that right, Yeah, And so
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: the Mions have this sport and they've got this tiny
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: little hoop way up on the wall of the playing field,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: which were huge. They were like, you know, as big
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: as your lacrosse fields or something like this. And so
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: they got these huge fields in the middle of these
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: pyramidic you know, structures of stone, and way up on
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: the wall of one of these would be this tiny
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: little hoop that was hardly bigger than the ball itself,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: and you had to like bump it with your shoulder
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: or kick it through that little hoop. The games would
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: last for days. It was. It was kind of like
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: your you know, some version of your British sports that
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: go on on. But anyway, the winner would be then
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: taken to the front and the captain of the team
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: would be beheaded.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not a lot of incentive.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Not a lot of incentive score the games for fucking ever,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: that's why they lasted days. But you want to win incentive?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Was it they didn't want to win? Or was the
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: incentive not to stay alive?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the Kings weren't cutting their own heads off if
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: someone won, right, they were cutting the heads off of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: the guy who was the winner. And uh, probably reluctantly.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can, we can make all kinds of
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: supp sure, I.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Mean, maybe they were looking forward to being sacrificed. It's
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: very possible.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's it.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: But human instincts don't align with that. Human instincts aligned
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: with people try to avoid death whenever possible.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I totally agree that while we're still veiled between the
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: five senses that make us think that things ended.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: I understand. But if you're advocating for a world where
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: it's okay to kill eighty thousand slaves at the consecration
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: of a temple that you probably didn't build in the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: first place. Because one of the problems with the Aztec
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: temples is they don't claim they built them, they found them.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: They found them already built, and they literally call them
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: the place where the gods were born. Like some of
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: these incredible structures were built who knows how much longer
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: before the Aztecs were there they describe it. They don't
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: say they built.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Them, Oh, they inhabited them. To say, with Egypt built
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: thousands of years before the modern Egyptian showed up.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Likely, so the egypt one is a little more complicated,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: you know, because there's so much of it and it's
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: so big. It's like, it's not that the Aztec one
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: isn't complicated, because it's certainly so is the Mayan one.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: I've only been to my Impyramids. I've been to Chichen Itza.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: It was fucking incredible. It's insane. You just try to
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: wrap your head around what this society must have been
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: like at its peak. But that's also the belief is
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: that these people in counted European diseases as well. That's
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: why they just sort of dropped off and vanished, just
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: like the Amazons.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: So I think there's there's a risk of us imprinting
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: our current belief systems on a distant past that we
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: can't remember that well.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean there's really they don't really know
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: what happened to the minds. There's a lot of guessing,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: but the prominent theory, the predominant theory, I think, is disease.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: And so I don't want to leave people hanging and
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: think that I'm out to create a new humanity where
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: it's okay to kill eighty thousand people.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're saying I'm.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: Interested in a situation where the concept of killing goes away,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: the concept of death becomes reverent, The concept of death
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: no longer is seen as an endpoint. The concept of
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: death becomes an evolution, not an endpoint. This is what
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: all indigenous people who spend some time in Nepal to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: go to Tibet. Their whole culture is in reverence to death.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: Well, they have those Tibetan sky funerals. Sky funerals. Those
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: are wild and people are horrified by that. But I
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: was like, as long as you knew that, like they
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: didn't have to get that HBO autopsy guy to exhume
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: your body because your your husband killed you or whatever.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: It is, as long as you know that you died
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: in a normal, natural way, isn't that kind of better
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: to let the let the vultures eat you. It's kind
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: of what you're supposed to be. You're supposed to cycle
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: back into nature. We're so weird that we say, nah,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: you can't have me, and we poison ourselves so that
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: we can go visit Grandpa in the funeral home when
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: he's embalmed. He's embalmed with toxic chemicals that could keep
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: his body from decaying so much so that you can
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: dig him up a couple of years later and find, oh,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: my god, Nana poisoned them. You know, because that's that's
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: They find out that starts ourself a new commentary about Yeah,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: well about humans, you know, I think there's there's something that.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Was just one example. It could be, you know, a
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: bunch of people. There's nurses that poison people. There's a
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: lot of crazy people out there. But the point is, like,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: we're very strange in that the most common way we
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: take care of bodies is we fill them up with
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: chemicals that make it so that the rest of nature
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: can absorb us.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: It's because we have no reverence for death, because we
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: think it's an endpoint. So we cling to these containers
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: as if this was the story. Yeah, and That's what
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: I got to see in hospice over and over again.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: It's the moment people pierce the veil and realize the
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: antenna can sense everything again. That's when they realized, this
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: body is a tiny story of me. This is a
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: tiny part of my experience, and it's precious because at
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: that moment of being human, I felt heartbreak, I felt suffering,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: I felt fear, I felt guilt, I felt shame, none
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: of which you can feel when you let go and
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: pierce that veil. On the other side is radical connectivity.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: On the other side of that veil is radical connectivity. Energetically,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: you feel everything, stars, moonscapes, everything you are are. You're
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: in this singularity moment, and that's what you can feel
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: in your body, like I continue to get so you
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: say what I feel right now when I just tell
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: you about what it feels like to be in the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: presence of somebody in that moment when their antenna goes
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: wide open and there still have a biological intenna that
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: can both transmit and receive information. The amount of information
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: around death is so vast, and this is why the
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: Tibetans honor it so thoroughly. Is this is that precious
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: one moment where a human antenna gets the entire download
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: and can still transmit it. And so if we are
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: not sitting in the rooms with our elders that are dying,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: we are missing the biggest download of life and we
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: will only find it out when we're on our deathbed,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: probably dying alone. And so this is what I'm talking about,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: is I see a world not without death. I see
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: a world where death becomes the biggest moment of transformation.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: And ten percent cent of people that go through that
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: have to be discharged from hospice six months later because
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: they went on to live new life. Their diseases go away,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: their health recovers, their biology returns, and they have a
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: different relationship with their children. They go and start creating
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: art they've never created. These near death experiences are trippy,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: and ten percent is a huge number. As a hospital doctor,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: I was admitting eighty patients a week to die, as
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: eight patients a week that are doing what they weren't
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: supposed to do. They were supposed to die and they're
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: not doing it. In fact, they are showing so much
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: more life after they glimpsed that everything's perfect and they
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: took a deep breath and said, I got one more
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: thing to express before I let go of this finite moment.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: And this is our precious experience that we have. And
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: I think, honestly, I think you're embodying something of this
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: for humanity to look at. You're one of those rare
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: personalities that gets on this seismic launch into the public eye.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: Wealth comes rushing to you that wasn't even expected. You
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: set out to have some fun with some friends and
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: then this happened, and you are one of the few
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: people in the public eye right now that didn't allow
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: that to break your relationship to your nature, and you
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: stayed connected to the people that are building stuff, that
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: are making cars. And that's what I grew up doing.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: I love it. That's what keeps us real is turning
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: wrenches getting the car to go faster, building a house.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: I built my own home. I live in the woods
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: of Virginia and built my home there. Living with my
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: partner down in Panama as she's building a whole village
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: down there. And it is amazing to see what is
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: going to happen when women start doing development on this planet.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: It's going to be spectacular. But what I'm feeling is
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: this return to being human where I am receiving so
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: much information and I need no money to be happy.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: If we keep making money the source by which we
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: will be safe, fed, housed, everything else, we will continue
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: in our abstract relationship to nature. We start reforming all
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: human systems in the context of a nature that is
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: not only abundant, it does not know death. It only
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: knows transformation, transformation, transformation, transformation, more complexity, more beauty, more intelligence.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: And so this is where we can start to lose
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: the fear of death and start to move into this
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: more reverence state of sovereignty where we understand that we
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: are fully resourced, not by Elon Musk's you know minimum
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: wage of half a million dollars. We are resourced by
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: nature itself, by life itself. Because we are cellular creatures,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: we had to be fully resourced to occur in our
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: mother's womb. We needed no money to take one cell
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: into seventy trillion cells inhabited by fourteen quadrillion mitochondria that
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: concentrates unlight ten thousand times brighter than the sun. That
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: happened without money.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: This all sounds great, but how do you get the
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: money to get a saw to cut the wood to
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: make your house.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: Why did the money have to enter in the time to.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: Get that saw? Did you make the saw?
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a circular saw? They have one
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: of those nice you know those nice ones saws alls?
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Why why would we need money for that either.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: Well, someone's got to build it. So someone's going to
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: make a factory. So someone's going to make the internal
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: engine that spinds that wheel a thousand times a minute
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: There's and so all you're talking about is a concentration
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: of energy.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Right, But someone's got to put the resources in to
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: do that. They have to source the steel.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: What if it was nature that put the resources in
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: instead of the Fed. So the fed's printing fake money.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: Right, But you've got to motivate people to innovate a thing.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: People people to create, well, certain things you just like.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: There's a reason why people do it because they know
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: that they can make some money off of it, you know.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: Because they're currently stuck in a matrix where they believe
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: the stuff is coming from money.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: To wall power tools. Right when they make those these engineers,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of designers. They all work for money,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: and they all like figure out how much electricity it's
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: going to run on, what the engine's going to be,
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: how fast it has to be, what's the best steel
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: for the aids. There's money involved in all that because
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: they have to have a warehouse where they have to
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: build it. They have to pay people to pay their
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: health care, pay their dental, they have to take care
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: of them. Maybe they have a union. Okay, so they've
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: got union dues and fees and there's a bunch of
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: money being exchanged because people want a reason to show
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: up at work to do the work to make these saws,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: because they're very difficult to make. It takes multiple people.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: There's a whole chain of different material science people that
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: have to be involved.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: That's perfect. So you just gave a perfect snopos of
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: the last two hundred years. Yeah, and so the Industrial Revolution.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: But that's how you make a house. That's how you
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: make this table. Like people have to work.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: But we built houses and castles and pyramids that were
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: much greater than any house built today without the money.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they had something okay like houses for sure,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: they had money. Like which houses Like if you go
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: back four hundred years, five hundred years ago, they definitely
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: had money, ten thousands they were paying people. Okay, pyramids,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: it's a good question.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: We don't build all money. We really don't have a
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: So well, we don't know how they source the resources,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: and we don't know how they got the people to
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: do the work, and we don't know what the technology
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: was involved in terms of planning, and we don't We
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: really don't know.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: But I do know what it was, which was something
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: like the FED.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: It probably wasn't that, and so it's that's.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: The thing, is like abstract monetary system that has nothing
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: to do with life, that.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: Right, Pyramids, Well, yeah, we don't know, right, but we
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: would assume that it would be more sophisticated than that.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: Because the pyramid's more sophisticated than that, we would like
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: to think that it would be different. We are also
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: trapped in thinking that the system that we currently find
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 1: ourselves operating in is the only way human beings can operate.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: This is my belief about the Pyramids and about a
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: lot of these ancient structures. I think we assume that
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: because we are on a specific direction in terms of
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: technological innovation, that this is the only direction that human
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: beings could have ever gone, and I have a feeling
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: that that is absolutely not the case, and I think
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: the Pyramids are the best example of that. I think
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: they went in a different direction. We don't know what
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: direction that was, because I think, you know, along the
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: lines of what Graham believes and what Randall Crasson believes
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: and a lot of these other folks, that there was
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: some sort of a great cataclysm and this is the
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: source of the flood myths that exists in all ancient religions,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: and this is somewhere around eleven thousand plus years ago.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that probably wiped out a lot of
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: information on how things were made and what they did
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: and why they were doing it the way they did it.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: And I think modern archaeology just saying you know, oh,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: they use sand and push stones like you can, go
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: fuck yourself. You go do that, bitch, You go figure
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: out how to carry a five hundred ton stone through
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: the mountains hundreds of miles away. Go fuck yourself. You can't.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: You're lying to me. You're pretending to be an expert,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: and you're lying to me because you're not willing to say.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: This baffles us to no end, and we have no
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: understanding of what tools were used in order to create
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: these incredibly symmetrical statues. Never forget about the pyramid itself,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: forget about the things that you were Filippo Biondi and
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: his work out of Italy, the stuff that they're finding
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: underneath the pyramids is baffling.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: The baffling, the light art systems of their baffling.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: Twenty meters in diameter, huge columns with spirals wrapped around them, Like,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: what's that? Why does it go a kilometer into the earth?
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: This is crazy?
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: Is it crazy or is it actually something we're actually
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: living the truth of.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I have a feeling it was an insanely advanced
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: society that existed there, and I think there's just not
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of evidence because the cataclysmic event of eleven
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: thousand years ago was probably so destructive that very few
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: people survived, and the people that did survive they just
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: had stories and they just they have had survival skills,
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: and they had to live in whatever way was possible
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: in order to carry on the human race. But I
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: think all semblance of a technologically sophisticated society that existed
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: pre eleven thousand years ago was all but wiped out.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why society re emerges around six
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: thousand years ago. And I think that's what that is.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: It's a re emerging.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: And it's not a.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Coincidence that all these societies that did emerge around six
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: thousand plus years ago, all of them have this flood myth.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: They all have these stories of these cataclysms because that
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: story was passed on generation generation all the people that survived.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: And what we're getting is the ultimate game of telephone.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: We're getting the ultimate game of people telling a story.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: And then you tell a story, and then by the
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: time against to Jamie, who knows what's missing, who knows
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: what's been added? Who knows what Pharaoh has added his
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: touch to it, or what king has decided that this
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: part can't be in there because it doesn't jive with
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: this particularly religious text that I believe in. It's a
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: real problem. It's a real problem when we go back
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: when we try to figure out what happened in history.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: But the things that should confound everyone and should absolutely
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: remind you that we don't know is the Pyramids. They
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: should just remind you we look at that. Shut the
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: fuck up. There's no way you know, you don't know
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: what was going on. We could only make guesses. And
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: we have to be very open minded when we make
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: these guesses because the sheer scale of these fantastic creations,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: and not just them, the labyrinths that go underneath it,
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: that the one that has these enormous forty meter long
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: metallic object that's under the ground, that they don't know
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: what the fuck it is. Herodotus talked about these labyrinths
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: like these, these are greater than Giza. He said, like,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: what were these people doing and how did they do it?
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: You have such an important couple of words in there.
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: One of them is this knowing concept.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: If we continue to try to make stories out of
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: our mind to explain the world we live in the
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: cosmos and in all of its complexities, or the human
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: body and its miraculous thing, we're going to end up
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: with very disempowered versions of reality. So what should we
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: do instead feel it instead of know it?
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, how you feel how they made the pyramids.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: You're already doing it. I'm watching you do it because
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: you keep looking up here. Every time you're like really
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: going after the pyramids, you look.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: Way up I do that with everything what I'm trying
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: to think exactly.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But what's actually happening is once you've done that
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: four or five times, your body starts putting the information
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: in and then you start speaking from some other thing
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: in your mind, and that's when you come up with
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: this conviction and I can feel it. So when my
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: antenna is open, I can feel you state your truth
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: through your body language, through the energy you're transmitting across
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: this table, and I'm not listening to your words anymore.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. Your truth is fundamentally that pyramids exist,
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: things too come next to our own human mind, and
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: technologies exist. They're here right now. They are undeniable. You're
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: transmitting a truth that I don't have to like work
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: on the words that I can feel it and it
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: lands for so long. I was trained to look up here,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: and I spent all of this time, seventeen years in
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: academia looking up here, trying to find my information map
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, there's that piece of information, and there's
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: that piece of meason. Let me put that into a story,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: because that's what I know. I had my near death
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: experience in twenty ten, and when I experienced the piece
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: and the opening that happens with a car accident twenty ten.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: When you have that experience, you suddenly realize that what
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: you know is a fraction of what you can feel,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: and you have so much more information at your experiential
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: level of capacity to inform your biology. Then the mind
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: will ever be able to create. And so this is
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: where we start to live telepathically. And this could all
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: be theoretical, but I will tell you I have seen
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: thousands of patients in my clinics that are living this
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: reality already. They have already gone back to telepathic communication
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: wide open, and they are called autistic people. Autism is
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: a neurologic development necessary at the end of a period
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: of time when humans went into complete abstraction. Money systems,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: when abstract, have no relationship to nature. We have medical
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: systems that are actually chronic disease management systems that are
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: bankrupting the world. Now five trillion dollars in a year
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: spent on disease management the United States alone. We are
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: bankrupting the systems that got separated from nature. They are
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: going to collapse, they are going to fail, and suddenly
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: we develop a neurology that cannot be programmed with the
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: old abstract systems and belief systems because they are feeling
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: too much. We call it sensor processing deficits, but really
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: what it is is a mind that's no longer gated
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: with excuses, with defense mechanisms, with tolerance levels of cognitive dissonance.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: Is this?
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Why have you seen that? There's one young boy who
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then he drew
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: the entire skyline, like completely accurately, just from his memory.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's you know, a project that's become
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: known as the Telepathy Tapes is a great example of it. Yeah,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: And I was on their second season of that talking
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: through what I experienced in clinic is that we now
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: have not just a theory of telepathic communication, we have
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: the lived experience between thousands of people that are in there,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: in there between space between the words. They are traveling
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: to a unified location that they all agree exists, which
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: is called the Hill Hill. And so they are having
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: a experience in which massive amounts of information are being
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: transmitted back and forth, and they cannot be programmed with
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: death is bad and things. You know, they can't believe
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: any of the abstract things we've been taught because they
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: feel too much. The reason I became so clear on
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: this was total accident in my clinic, which is the
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: only way new ideas come along, its complete accidents. Because
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: when we when we do scientific research, it's way too linear.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: We see something, we're like, well, if that's happened, then
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: this must be the way it is. Well, if I
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: just saw that, then this must be a ways. So
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: we do these linear you know, knowledge based systems, and
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: so we get nowhere, we go in circles, and well,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: cancer must be here we are. We've known cancer wasn't
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: the problem. We knew that cancer was a metabolic symptom,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: a symptom of metabolic collapse one hundred years ago, so
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: well defined in medical literature, everything else outo Werberg was
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: the guy who like broke the whole news in the
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenties. So here we are, one hundred years later,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: still thinking that cancers coming out of the woodwork and
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: attacking healthy human bodies. So we go on these linear things.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: What we are forgetting is these leaps in awareness, These
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: a much bigger intenna system is available to us. And
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: you only get there when you finally surrender your knowledge
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: base and you start to feel what's happening in front
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: of you. And so I was taught that there was
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 2: a disease called autism that was affecting our children. And
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: for years I helped manage these people in clinics and
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: everywhere they showed up in the medical system, and I
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: saw this disease in my linear mind was always like,
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: I got to fix that. Maybe if I do this,
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: I could fix the human brain. Maybe if we flip
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: this switch, it'll work. Maybe if we put this chemical
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: in their body, we can change their neurochemistry and get
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: them to be able to tolerate a day. My clinic
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: that I launched in twenty ten was called Revolution Health Centers,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: rural clinic, town of five hundred and fifty people, no
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: resources monetarily, there was no reason this was going to
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: become an explosive hub of innovation if you measured it
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: by money, I was hemorrhaging money. I was not making
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: money as a doctor. Adell rural doctor had left the
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: Hallett halls and the marble halls of academium, and I
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: started seeing autistic hits a lot in these rural vironments,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: and any inner city urban environment is where we have
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: these really high penetrants of autism. It's not being diagnosed
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: because they don't have the resources to bring the attention
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: to Like child's five seven years old and by that time,
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: there's been no resources brought to the kids. So lots
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: of undiagnosed autistic neurology out there. So I was seeing
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of end clinic and these kids are heavily affected,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 2: and the suffering is kind of through the roof. They
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: are hitting their head against a wall six eight hours
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: a day. They have a callous on their forehead from
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: rhythmically hitting their heads, striking their head against a wall.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: And when they get upset, somebody comes into their environment
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: stresses them. They start smearing feces and blood on the walls.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: It is from parenting aspect, the most horrific hell you
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: can possibly live in, the amount of suffering being expressed.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: And so these kids with highly affected autism are coming
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: in my clinic and they can't even sit in front
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: of you. They run around in the clinic room and
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: they can't make icon, can't make physical They're feeling too
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: much and they'll go hide in a corner, hit their
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: head against the wall. Stem somehow they're stemming their body
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: until the chaos of everything they're taking in is shut
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: down to one signal of pain. So this is an
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: intense way to see a human being. And this kid's
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: four years old sitting in front of you, and this
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: mother is more exhausted than you've ever seen a human being.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: And so we started trying to go into the woodwork
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: of like what resources are we not thinking of here?
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: And by this time I was starting to be exposed
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: to Native American indigenous practices and new energetic therapies. You
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: bring cream stuff out of Egypt, and it was like, Okay,
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: show me something, give me some tool here, and we
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: stumbled upon this very simple tool which is called emotion
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: code therapy, and it's a simple way of bringing the
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: mind into awareness of where an emotion is stored inside
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: of itself. And then you run a magnet over the forehead,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: over the top of the head to reset the magnetic
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: pull of the water around the brain and it changes
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: the neural chemistry. And so it was a powerful tool.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: I was super excited about it, but most of these
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: kids coming in so effect it wouldn't even get close
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: enough for me to do that. They so we started
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: doing it on the moms to show the kid, hey,
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: this is safe, and they'd come in and get a
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: couple treatments. After two years of this, we started to
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: realizing all of the kids were improving before we ever
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: got that treatment installed. They were improving when mom got treated.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: That started to made me realize they're not expressing a
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: personal experience, They're expressing a field effect. Their intentas wide open,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: and when we removed Mom's emotional stressors, the kid got better.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: And so we started treating everybody in the field, and
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: a heavily austistic child will require three to five full
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: time efforts to get. So they got a grandma, two aunties,
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: an uncle, two brothers that are taken care of the kid,
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 2: and we started treating the whole field like anybody who
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: has touch with this kid in a week, we want
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 2: to see them, We want to clear their emotional field.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: The effect was just undeniably effective. Every time you cleared
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: another individual whose emotional field was being felt by the kid,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: the kid improved. And so what I started to realize
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: is these kids, because they are a wide open antenna
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: that cannot damp themselves down. They don't have the filters
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: that would allow them to survive in an abstract, fake
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: environment that's artificial through and through, they cannot do it,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: and so all they can do is feel everything. And
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: now they're feeling what those native cultures must have felt
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: when Europeans showed up for the first time. Neurologic systems
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: that are wide open, that suddenly see an abstract human
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: being and the suffering they are in will collapse. Its
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: own neurology will overwhelm the system. And so the same
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: thing that our artistic are showing today, I believe it's
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: very similar to what it must have felt like to
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: be an inca am may in your habitat and suddenly
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: see the field disrupted by a stress signal, an unbelievable
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: signal that just broke the whole field. So we have
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: stories about floods, but we're still thinking of the flood
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: as a f physical wave of water that came over.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: Is it possible that the flood was actually a neurologic
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: experience of overwhelmed that wiped out the entire memory bank?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: Did we do that when a sector of humanity truly
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 2: experienced and believed itself to be separate from nature for
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: a moment. Was there an original I think it has.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: They're mutually exclusive, and I think there's a lot of
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: physical evidence that the impact the younger dries impact theory
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: specifically is right.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: I agree there's water. I agree water goes up and down.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: I agree that there's massive floods, But when we talk
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: about the Inca and the aspect, there was no flood
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: at that time. So what I'm really getting at is
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: is it possible there's something other than just physical floods?
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: Can there be energetic So in that case, these settlers
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: coming across, not just the diseases, but just the fact
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: that they were there, they can the marauders. These people
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: are coming in on horseback, they have muskets.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: They think they've been kicked out of nature for a
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: thousand years. They're terrified to the.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: They're cutting people's arms off, they don't give them their
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: weight in gold.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're breaking the field.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've read some of the depicteds. There was was
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: it a bishop or someone traveled with some religious person
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: traveled with Columbus's first crew and wrote these horrific depictions
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: of what they did to the native people that they found.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: And once they found that these people had gold that
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: they demanded their weight in gold, were cutting their arms
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: off and dashing babies heads on rocks. They were horrific stuff.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: I forget that the guy who it was, but it
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: was some religious figure who traveled with them.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: Here. He is.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: Bartolome de las Casas. So he's a Spanish lawyer, clergyman, writer,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: and activist, best known for his work as a historian
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: and social reformer. So this is the guy, and so
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: he he recorded what the Spanish settlers did. He described
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: and rallied against the atrocities committed by the conquistadors against
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: the indigenous people. Arriving as one of the first Spanish
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: settlers in America, Los Cassas initially participating in the colonial
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: economy built on forced indigenous labor, but eventually felt compelled
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: to oppose the abuses committed by European colonists against the
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: indigenous population. So he's one of the reasons why we
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: know that we probably shouldn't be celebrating Columbus Day. He
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: probably wasn't a great guy.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wish it was distant history, but it's
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: still happening. Yes, the cartels are still doing that down
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: and throughout this whole region that we're talking about and
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: they're still beheading people with machetes, and they're still at this.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: And we, as the United States, have killed more people
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: than any other people's in history. We have been a
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: machine of death for two hundred and fifty years like
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: none other. And we've done in the name of freedom,
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: and we've done in the name of our God is
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: better than your God. And so we have used these
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: altruistic shields to become the biggest death machine in the world.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: Incredible medical paper was published just recently in The Lancet
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: and it looked at the number of global deaths from
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: just US economic sanctions over the last forty years, and
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: the number was around thirty five million people dead. Thirty
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: five million people did not with a single tank, not
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: with a single plane in the air, not a single
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: drone from sanctions. And so, when we keep telling ourselves
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: that we need money for our own health, for our
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: own houses, we need healthcare insurance, Therefore we need money.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: The assurance of health will never come from a company
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: that doesn't care about you. It will always come from biology.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 2: It will always come from an earth that allowed you
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: to conceive in your mother's womb.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we're in a very perverted system. If health is
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: dependent upon these organizations whose primary focus is to make
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: the most money possible, that's crazy. And then recommend to
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: you drugs that you absolutely don't need, and then hide
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: studies that these drugs are damaging to you.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: It's crazy unless you think that everything comes from money,
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: and then it makes sense.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it makes sense that you know the old
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: adage money is the root of all evil. That's when
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: did that get written? Who wrote that? What quotes that from?
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: I know that quote so well, I have no idea
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: who wrote it. Do you have any idea.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: That's been that's the oldest adage in politics.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder who's credited with that. They probably stole it
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: from somebody else. Does it say the Bible? There you go, Ah, wow,
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: So that would have been Aramaic. Timothy was speaking Aramaic.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: Aramic was a critical language that has been forgotten in
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: our Christian world of New Testament Old Testaments, but most
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: of us written or spoken in Arabic, not Hebrew or
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: not Great. It's all in aram all in Aramic.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: The Dead Sea scrolls are bananas.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: And if you look at the language of Aramic, then
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: we're getting a layer or two back from abstraction where
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: there's actually shape to those that are actually transmitting information.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: There's something about looking at that written language as well
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: that's really compelling. You're antennas, Yeah, especially like old languages.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: There's something about like old Hindu you look at it,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: like ancient Hindu scripts, ancient Tibetans.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: You look at Farsi. Yes, Farsi gives me goose bumps
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: when I read. When you look at a roomy poem
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: written in Farsi, you realize he wasn't transmitting a poem.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: He has so much mathematical truth in a thing that's
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: in the form. He's telling you geometry. He's telling you
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 2: sacred geometry, the fabric of the universe, in the form
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: of a language that is not symbolic. It's it's a
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: true depiction of information.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: It really is interesting embodied. These ancient languages are so beautiful.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: Ancient Hebrews another one. It's beautiful. You look at it.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 1: This is wild to look at, you know. And then
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: when you find out that ancient Hebrew they didn't have numbers,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: so that the letters doubled as numbers, and so there
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: was there was actually numerical value in words that were missing,
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: like when the translations got to Latin and Greek and
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: eventually English, like we lost what they were trying. There
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: was something that they were saying that if they could
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: read it, they knew there was there was more context
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: to these words that just simply you know, you're talking
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: about a bush, you're talking about a tree, you're talking
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: about a lake. Now there's there's something to it. It's
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: really really interesting stuff because it's like, why did language
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: get less complex as it got more recent? That seems strange.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: It got more symbolic.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: Mm.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily complexity. That was the problem is that
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 2: it separated itself from the actual information. So now the
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: word tree is a symbol of something that actually has
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: never been a noun. So now we have a word
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: that has no movement in it. It's a noun. It
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: does not express movement. And we now assess, you know,
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: sixty percent of the surface of the earth as a
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: non living, non moving thing called a tree. Whereas all
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: native cultures, when you ask them what is that, they
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: will use a verb. And so what they're saying is
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: that is treeing, that's treeing, that's treeing. Nothings verbs English
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: was the first language to come around and characterize everything
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: as a noun. And that's why it became the language
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: of science is because science broke its relationship to motion.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: It wanted everything to be static, therefore studiable, therefore we
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: could control its variables. And so every time somebody shows
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: you a cancer study, shows you a cardiovaster disease study.
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: I did this for years. I've got a peer science
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: everything else. I was literally having to break every element
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: of nature so that I could prove that my protein
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: COOPTF one was the most important thing for cancer. I
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: had to break every relationship to nature that that cancer
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: cilcle possibly have before I could study that protein. And
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: so everything that we call trust the science these days
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: is an aberration. Is a symbol of life. It is
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: not life itself. And so science itself has become this
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: noun structured belief system that has no flow in it.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: There's no verbing happening in sciences. There's a bacteria, there's
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: a mitochondrid, there's a human cell, and we think of
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: those as three different things. Now it is life lifing,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: and what it's doing is finding more and more ways
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: to stack complexity to get more and more light concentrated
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: per cubic centimeter, and everything is in one relationship. There
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: is no tree human thing. There's life doing biosis, interconnected relationships.
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: And this is getting very fun. Now. It's like we
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: actually got the science and how to prove that we
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: were wrong. And so we think, okay, here's human DNA
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: double helix, Watson and Crick, this is bible of the
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: biologic kingdom. Now everything comes from DNA, and human DNA
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: is much better than bacterial DNA because bacteria just have
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: little circle loops of DNA. We have this beautiful, spiraling
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: double helix. This has got to be the best in
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: the land. Then we start in nineteen ninety two, we
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: set out to decode the human genome, and we thought, well, well,
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be a forty
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 2: year projects. We knew how many genes we could decode
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 2: each year with our geneic sequencers, so we thought, we're
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 2: gonna have to find four hundred thousand genes because we
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: knew it by this time that we had four hundred
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: thousand different proteins in a human body. So we're like, well,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: we need to find a gene for each of those
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: because We knew that a gene made an RNA that
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: then made a protein. We knew how it worked. Watson
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: Creek crick. It starts us off nineteen ninety six, rolls around,
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 2: and the team finishes twenty five years ahead of schedule.
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: Because there were not four hundred thousand genes, there was
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand genes. Everybody laughed, said, you screwed it up.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: Three more team finish over the next two years. The
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: first team was wrong. There was not twenty five thousand genes.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: There was nineteen thousand genes. They had miscounted because they
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: had dual counted some of them. We have less than
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: twenty thousand human genes that make a human body. The
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: reason why that's so embarrassing is because a flea has
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand genes. A fruitfly has thirteen thousand genes. So
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: you sit somewhere between a flea and a fruit fly genetically.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: In fact, you're a little closer to the fruit fly
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: than the flea. That's probably why the flea can jump
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: forty times it's height and you can't. But there is
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: something sitting here right in front of us at the
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 2: genetic level. Saying to be human is not to be
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: a species, and so what is all of that DNA doing.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: There's so much DNA in a human how can we
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 2: have so few of that it has small of that
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: information actually coding a gene. And turns out the numbers
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: one and a half percent one and a half percent
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: of the DNA held inside of a human cell is
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: actually coding for a gene. Ninety eight point five percent
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: we ended up calling junk DNA. So it's called junk
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: due for twenty five years until somebody has started to
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: realize that we were preserving our junk DNA more carefully
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: in passing that to our young than we wear the genes.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: And so there's something super important being preserved by biology
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: from generation generation all this junk DNA. What we now
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: have found out is the mitochondria again, two hundred mitochondria,
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: many different species variants living inside a single human cell,
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: because they change their genetic sequencing very rapidly, and so
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: you got maybe a couple hundred different versions of a
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: mitochondria sitting in a single human brain cell. Those, it
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: turns out, are storing their genetic information in the double
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: helix of the human cell and they go in access
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: inside the human nucleus the gene that is theirs for
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 2: their own reproductive capacity, and pull an RNA out of
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 2: that common decode a protein so they can reproduce every
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: three days, pretty your entire life. So the mitochondria are
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: storing their genes in the human cells. This was This
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't fit any biologic map of WYK. You're starting to
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 2: realize there's a collective expression of in the antenna of
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: being human. And that's what DNA ends up being, is
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 2: that it is actually an antenna system that's taking in
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: information and then unwinding and rewinding to reveal different genetic
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: sequences to all of life within a human ecosystem. So
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: we are now convinced genetically that it's impossible that a
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: human is a species, else we'd be somewhere between a
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 2: flea and a fruitfly. The magic of being human is
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: in the ninety eight point five percent of our DNA
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: that doesn't code for human gene that is likely coding
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: for all of life. That's what it means to be
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: a keystone species genetically is we are the life. We
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 2: are the life record. It is happening through us in us,
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: around us, life is ascending through a biologic matrix that
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: we call a human body. But this is not a
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: species as an ecosystem. And seventy years ago we started
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: the antibiotic era, and we started wiping out the diversity
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 2: inside of a human body. And so the toxicity of
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 2: herbicize and pesticide have very little to do to their
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: impact on a human cell. It has to do with
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: the impact on the entire ecosystem that's expressing itself through
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: this massive genomic library that is so big we can't
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: even wrap our head around. If we strung you end
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: to end, you've got around fifty to seventy trillion human cells.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: Each of those cells has about a meter of DNA
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: bundled inside of every nucleus of every cell. If we
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: strung you end to end, we could wrap Joe around
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: the circumference of the planet right at the equator two
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: million times. Your DNA wraps around Planet Earth two million times.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: The amount of genetic information in there is plenty to
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: hold a record and a code for all of life
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: on Earth. It will not surprise me that in the
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: coming years we start to realize the entire code is here.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: We have found out just recently that you could take
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: the human genome and arrange it in one hundred and
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: seventy eight puzzle pieces and spell pig perfectly. The genome
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: is this warehouse of life of Earth. It's not belonging
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: to a human species. And I believe that this is
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 2: where we are going to really spend a lot of
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: our new excitement around what it means to be human
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: as we start to move into our next era. The
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: antibiotic era is coming to an end. It's crippled our
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: biology and our fertility point where we cannot continue it.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 1: Well, how do we move past it?
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: We become biologic again. We're going to end the chemical
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: antibiotic era and we're moving to the biological renaissance. You
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: talked a couple of times about this moment of remembering,
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: like the Renaissance that we can all point to. Sudden
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: explosion in math science are massive. You know, it doesn't
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: make any sense. What was happening fifty years before the
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: Renaissance and then the Renaissance and what would happen the
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: next two hundred years. It was a parametric explosion of creativity,
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: of human capacity, human mind capacity, creativity.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: What is it coincide with a.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: Remembrance the antenna opened up. And so this is the
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 2: moment we're about to re enter now as we're going
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: into the next renaissance, and it's happening in people like
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: doctor Abraham Green out of each He's suddenly remembering the
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 2: technology of the hieroglyphs. He's remembering the technology of waveform
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: and its influence on biology. He's not in there inventing
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: this stuff. I've sat with him in cafes and I'll say, well,
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: what about this disease here? And he goes just for
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: a split second into his antenna, draws the shape on
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: the napkin, slides it across the table. He's not producing
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 2: this stuff, he's remembering this stuff. The antenna is opening
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: up on humankind right now, and autism is our super
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: charged version of that. The autistic neurology is so wide
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: open that we're going to have no choice but to
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: start to remember everything. A kid flies over New York
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: once can remember the entire scape. That's what our antenna
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: is capable of doing. Autistic children are not abnormally genius.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: They are minds that are unfiltered and bodies that are
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: still in the context of nature. They have not separated.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: When I sit with an indigenous elder in Africa, the
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: Koi people. The Koi have been around for three hundred
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: thousand years. They have an unbroken oral history for one
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand years, with exception of that blank point eleven
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: thousand to seven thousand years ago, and so they also
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: suffered the amnesia. But one hundred thousand years of normal
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: tradition is spectaculars twice as long as anything else on
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: the planet. Aboriginal forty thousand, Native Americans forty thousand, Deep proud,
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand, one hundred thousand years of uninterrupted information. You
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 2: sit with one of these elders, and they have all
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: of the experiential traits that the autistic community is. They
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: can go to the hill, they can communicate telepathically with
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: the forest system. They can tell you what the panther
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: is saying. They can tell you what the moon cycle
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 2: is saying, not because they've studied it, because they're literally
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: listening to the information. They're receiving. The information this new
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: renaissance is beginning is a biological reconnection that is going
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: to be available to us so much information that we're
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: not going to sit here and listening to podcasts of
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 2: wondering scratching our heads about how did the pyramids happen?
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: Like why we're going to start doing it again, because
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: there's a so other understanding of how water and carbon work,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: how how much work you can do instantaneously when you
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: master the ability of the antenta of a human being
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: to organize matter. The pyramids were not built, they were organized,
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: If that makes sense. I believe that when you feel
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 2: what's happening inside a pyramid was a This was all
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 2: an energetic expression. This is a frequency wavelength expression of
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 2: something that was energetically probably hardy hear. It's an emergent
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: reality that is made by biology when it feels the
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: whole field.
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 1: Right, But how how do they put it together?
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: So the people that are remembering this, that are starting
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: to feel what is this? They did it through mind.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: They did it literally through transmitting information into the natural materials.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: And so they would cut with their mind with frequency
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: as a transmitter to cut the stones, to organize stones
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: to move anti gravity and everything else. And you're bringing
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: this to everybody's attention all the time, these UAPs and
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: everything else that are rushing around here. Gravity only exists
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: in one plane of reality here, and so there's anti
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: gravity experiences that are the process of waves interrupting the
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 2: relationship between two bodies. That's gravity. So gravity is the
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: distance plus the mass or the mass squad plus the
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: distance between the are multiplied by the distance between the
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: two bodies there, and so you need two bodies in
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: a relationship to create the phenomenal gravity. Not surprisingly, you
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: can put a wave form between those two that interrupt
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: that relationship. And so when you start to think this way,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: then UAPs and your pyramids all start to make sense.
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 2: Like we're so Newtonian in our current belief systems. We've
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: forgotten how to believe in quantum physics because we became
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: so committed to the mechanical reality that Newton offered us.
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: Newton said, this happens. Therefore this happens. Everything is action
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: and reaction, action reaction maybe, or everything is creation. Is
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: the right relationship between action and reaction actually polarity instead
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: of one thing reacting to the other.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think is fueling this current renaissance?
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's us getting to the breaking point of
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: human neurology. We can no longer sustain the stories. We
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: took so much energy for us to all believe the
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 2: stories together. Everything you've ever talked about on this podcast
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 2: is pushing I don't even know if you know you're
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: doing this. You are pushing the human neural to its
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: breaking point. With every podcast, you are challenging the human
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: mind to stretch past his capacity to keep the old
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 2: stories alive. You're breaking minds. That's why we love you
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: is I have a great affection for all people who
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: do this, and you're one of these people doing this.
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 2: You are a breaker of false things, and you have
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: an incredible device that you use all the time, which
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: is curiosity. It just won't let you sit still. You're
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: too fucking curious. I love this about you because this
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: is why I was excited to come to your podcast,
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 2: not so I could talk about anything, so I could
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: feel you. I wanted to feel what this feels like,
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: because this has to be one of the most freaking
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: curious motherfuckers on the planet. What a gift to sit
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: in front of a curious human being. There's nothing that
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 2: feels better to a human neurology than sensing the other.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: The impregnation that doctor Abraha mc cream in there, that
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: field effect of two fields that come into presence together
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: and imprint, impregnate the other one. It's your curiosity that's
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: got everybody paying attention. We love it because you're not
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: here to tell us you know everything. In fact, you
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: keep the challenges that we don't know anything. You've said
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 2: it five times on this but we don't know. That
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 2: feels so good to a neurology. We don't know. Well.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 1: I also think many people are curious, and they also
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: want to hear from other people that are curious as well,
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 1: because we live in this weird world where we've been
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: deceived into thinking that people have short attention spans. It's
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 1: not true. Your attention span could be hijacked by short
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: attention span media, but it doesn't mean you have a
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: short attention span. Most people that I know, if there's
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: a thing that they like, this is a thing that
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: they're interested in, they have immense attention for it. Whether
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: it's a sporting event or a concert that go to.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that you have a lot
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: of attention for. It's just it has to actually read
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: with you. And people love when other people are curious
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: because they're curious. Most people are curious.
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: All humans are curious. Yeah, all humans. There's something wrong,
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 2: you're not human.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you're just blunted. Life has thrown you some curveballs
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to duck.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: Oh. You can definitely turn a curiosity off into human,
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: no question. You just separate them from nature long.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: Enough and you drug them.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: You know, that's just a symptom of nature definite disorder.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. I think
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: that's why. One of the best remedies for people that
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: are depressed is physical exercise.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: Get them out of nature.
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get it, Go out in nature.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: Go hike it and camp for seven days.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: Saying that makes you feel alive, gets your blood pumping,
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: because that's what's supposed to happen. That's how you're supposed
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: to exist.
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: It's been shown three nights of camping outside, never go
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: inside for three days. Your immune system reverts thirty years.
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: Your T cells turned back on, all your stem cells activate.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: We are living a blunted human experience because we separate
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 2: ourselves from nature.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Werner hers Our documentary Happy People.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: It's really fantastic. It's about these people that live in
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 1: Siberia and they're so happy. There's like no mental illness
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: and it's it's called happy People life in the Taiga.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: So it's all these people that are off the Tiger River,
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: and these people live a subsistence lifestyle. They they're they're
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: hunt and they fish and that's that's all they do.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: They ride around on snowmobiles, they build cabins, they live
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 1: with their dogs. Sounds like, yeah, it's quite fascinating because
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: these people don't have any mental illness. They're all happy.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: They're all they're all laughing. They get together, they drink
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 1: and they have parties and they eat food together and
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 1: they're laughing, and then they go about their work and
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: then they exist completely embedded in nature. They are nature,
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 1: They're a part of it.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: And I would offer they're not working at all. They're creating.
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: They're living.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 2: They're creating, they're living.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: Zach, this was awesome. This is really fascinating. We've got
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 1: to do this again.
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 2: Can I show you a picture of how we got here?
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: Show me a picture how we got here?
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: All right, let's just I want to go through that
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 2: next slide because it's going to orient us. So like,
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 2: what's actually happening to humankind right now?
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 2: And so we have established clearly that nature's the context
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 2: of a connected, interconnected life. And so can you go
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 2: back one sleig, Oh, yeah, that one will work. Yeah,
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: So I go ahead and that one. And so this
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 2: is looking at the effect of glyph assate on ATP,
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: which is energy production per cubic centimeter. And so this
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: is looking at that. And this is a vehicle meaning control.
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 2: And so you're producing about sixteen hundred pika moles per
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: milligram of ATP. These are the mitochondria turning carbon chains
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: of carbohydrates and fatty acids back into light energy. And
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: so you've got this massive energy potential. And then within
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes of introduction to just one part per million
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 2: of glyphassay, which is a common amount that you would
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 2: see in a lot of your chemical farmed food systems,
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: we've seen this all the way down to ten parts
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 2: per billion, which is you know, times smaller quantity here.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: And so at these levels, though, you see a sudden
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: collapse of the ATP production. And so now imagine in
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six we start eating food with residues of
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 2: this chemical and suddenly we shut down light percubic centimeter
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 2: for the first time in human history. More effectively than
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: ever probably, And so I'm going to show you on
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 2: a population scale of billions of people, what happens when
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 2: you start to undermine the light percubic centimeter, and so
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 2: you start it OBEs in nineteen eighties, four years after
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 2: introduction of this chemical to our food system. From there,
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: you end up seeing the collapse of the metabolism that
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: we call diabetes. Diabetes is a condition that stems from
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: the obesity in the liver. OBEs is not because you're
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: eating too many calories. It's because the calories can no
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 2: longer be burned at the mitochondria level, which is where
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 2: they should be ending up so obesit happens when you're
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 2: eating two thousand, three thousand calories a day and can
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 2: only burn fifteen hundred calories a day because your mitochondria
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 2: have been poisoned by an antibiotic that's killing the bacteria
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 2: in the soil just as they're killing the bacteria inside
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 2: your cells, which are mitochondria. And so as we started
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 2: seeing these increasing levels of glyph sate heading through the system,
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 2: you end up with diabetes within a few years. Because
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 2: fat stored in the liver, which is where everything gets
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 2: redirected to if it can't burn in the cell, will
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 2: ultimately give you insulin resistance. As you get insulin resistance,
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 2: the insulin cannot get the carbohydrates into the cell anyways,
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 2: and so now you're starving twice. You can't burn it
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 2: at the mitochondria level, and you can't get the sugar
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 2: there By the nineteen nineties, we start to develop widespread allergies.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 2: The most energy demanding system in the body is the
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 2: immune system. As the immune system started to fail and
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: its metabolic capacity, relationships started to fail, and we suddenly
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 2: started to develop a reactive relationship to the foods we
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 2: were eating. Wheat nineteen ninety two starts causing a massive
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 2: allergy to gluten, and the gleaden compound in there interacts
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 2: with glyphosate to syner logistically fracture this metabolic capacity. We
• 2:43:58
  Speaker 2: don't have gluten sense, it's we have a metabolic collapse.
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 2: That's called life state poisoning. I'll show you the periviet
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: science we published from that. Within a couple of years
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: of allergy, which is basically overwhelm of the immune system
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 2: to your environment, you ultimately end up with autoimmune disease.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: This is where your body no longer consents what's outside
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 2: and what's inside, and your body becomes the enemy. So
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: autoimmune disease is a steady destruction of your own body
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 2: by your own immune system that can't tell it's you.
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 2: You've lost cellular identity. Within a couple of years of that,
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 2: we develop neurologic conditions ADHD and autism, and our children
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and our adults, as well as ms
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: als and all the other neurologic general conditions in the middle.
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 2: In a two year period, they all went logarithmic. By
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 2: the early two thousands, we're starting to realize we're in
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 2: the middle of a cancer epidemic. This is when I
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 2: was at the University of Virginia and developing chemotherapy, and
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: so cancer epidemic launches. Initially, it's really obvious leukemism, foam
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 2: was all these bon marrow things, and it's pretty soon
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: by the late in two thousands, it's solid tumors. It's
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 2: processly cancer, breast cancer, colon cancer, all of them going algorithmic,
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 2: and so just this explosion of cancer. And that's not
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 2: because there was more carcinogens around. It's because there was
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 2: less life, there was less light per cubic centimeter, So
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 2: every time we go down this ladder, we're seeing less
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 2: metabolic capacity left light per cubic centimeter. By the early
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 2: twenty tens, we see this collapse of fertility around the world. Today,
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 2: two one hundred and ten countries around the world are
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 2: below the fertility rate necessary for replacement in one hundred
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 2: and ten countries below. The United States is way below
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 2: one point six instead of two point one. Infertility goes global.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 2: By the early twenty tens, Endercin disruption and genomic instability
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 2: starts to occur. So these are things like methylation defects
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 2: and we can no longer detox the body, so we
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 2: develop stories about lime disease and all these conditions of infections,
• 2:45:47
  Speaker 2: when in fact it's just toxicity that can no longer
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 2: escape the body because we don't have the repair and
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 2: detox mechanisms there because the metabolism, the life light energy
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 2: per cubic centimeter is diminishing. Finally, we see the emergence
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 2: of gender dysregulation happening in the womb, and so this
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 2: is probably started in pockets around the world a couple
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: decades ago, but by the twenty tens and mid fifteen's,
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 2: we see this happening regularly. And what's happening here is
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 2: the biology is staying at neutral. Every fetus ever developed
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 2: in the womb of a woman starts at neutral, neither
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 2: male nor female. It starts at neutral, and then around
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 2: ninety days of embryologic development, it requires an explosion of
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 2: energy from the mitochondria within it, and it takes that
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 2: ninety days really not to do anything at the human level,
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 2: but you're growing the garden. You're growing the microbial garden
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 2: inside the human to get ready for this massive energy
• 2:46:41
  Speaker 2: discharge that's going to polarize the biology to become male
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 2: or female. So to move from neutral to male or
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 2: neutral of female requires this huge energetic thing that we
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 2: call puberty. So the first puberty happens at ninety days
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 2: in the womb. There's another one that happens late phase
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 2: in euter and then there's the more typical when you
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 2: see around four or five years old, where you start
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 2: to see differentiation of some of the physical features of
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 2: boys and girls, and then the classic one around ten
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 2: to thirteen years old, and then another one around eighteen
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 2: to twenty one, and then a final burst that happens
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 2: in your late twenties. So we go through all of
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 2: these huge energetic discharges that create polarity, that move you
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 2: away from neutral to one or the other of the sexes.
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 2: And this isn't like sex as a preference. This is
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 2: literal neurologic expression. This is the neurology of the deep
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  Speaker 2: brain forming the behavioral traits of a human being to
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  Speaker 2: become male traits female traits. If you've ever had two kids,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got kids, but I've got
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  Speaker 2: a daughter and a son. They're both adults now and
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  Speaker 2: married and thriving. But when you watch a kid develop,
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  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable what's pre programmed in there. The male traits
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  Speaker 2: can appear. By the time they're six months nine months old,
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  Speaker 2: they're doing something different than their sister did at that
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  Speaker 2: same phase. So there's what we're talking about, is this
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  Speaker 2: deep programming of the biology as it goes away from center.
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  Speaker 2: By the time, we had this much clive state in
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  Speaker 2: the system. So this whole cascade from nineteen seventy six
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  Speaker 2: to twenty twenty, you're looking at this yellow line that's
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  Speaker 2: traveling up there. That's the amount of life state sprayed
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  Speaker 2: into our global environment. Today we spray three billion to
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  Speaker 2: four billion pounds of life state into our global soils.
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  Speaker 2: Three billion pounds of anything is disgusting, but this is
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable amount of antibiotic. That much antibiotic has reduced the
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  Speaker 2: metabolic life force of our planet and our species to
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  Speaker 2: the point where we have a chronic disease explosion by
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  Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties, and infertility collapse of the species and
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  Speaker 2: then gender dysregulation. So this is how a species goes extinct,
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  Speaker 2: is it loses its metabolic capacity to concentrate light energy.
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  Speaker 2: Light percubic centimeter is how life occurs. Biosis is the
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  Speaker 2: interconnected relationships that make life possible. You undermine those relationships,
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  Speaker 2: you decrease the number of relationships per cubic centimeter, and
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  Speaker 2: you start to see this pattern evolving of a decrease
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  Speaker 2: in repair and regeneration, and so that you're rate of
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  Speaker 2: repair versus your rate of injury suddenly goes out of
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 2: whack and a previous rate of injury of eating bread
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  Speaker 2: gluten has a slight impact on gut behavior. Slight decrease
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  Speaker 2: there and you lose fidelity and the whole thing starts
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  Speaker 2: to degrade. So I've spent the last fifteen years of
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  Speaker 2: my life building systems with people around us that are
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  Speaker 2: already tuning into this wider antenna to say, what does
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  Speaker 2: biology look like fully supported? So we've created these online
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  Speaker 2: programs called Journey, which is journying humanity back into natural
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  Speaker 2: systems to fully support not only the biology in the
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  Speaker 2: way it repairs, regenerates, but fully open up the antenna
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  Speaker 2: to remember what we were supposed to be doing here,
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  Speaker 2: to remember what it feels like to be between Heaven
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  Speaker 2: and Earth, to be floating in this cosmic stew of curiosity, creativity, productivity.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's going to make humans humans again. So when
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 2: we allow our children to become between again and start
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  Speaker 2: to stop being programmed into machine like behavior and start
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  Speaker 2: to open up their antenna, we can decide to do
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  Speaker 2: that as a society and proactively go about this, or
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  Speaker 2: autism will emerge to the point where one in three
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 2: children will have autism by twenty thirty five. And we
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  Speaker 2: do this anyways, we are going to develop a neurology
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  Speaker 2: to escape our mechanical history. Our anti nature, antibiotic nature
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  Speaker 2: is going to come to end because bodies are always
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  Speaker 2: going to win. Nature's always going to reinvent herself out
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  Speaker 2: of whatever stressor is pushing on her right that moment,
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  Speaker 2: Right now, human behavior is pushing on nature. If we
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  Speaker 2: stop doing that and we let nature come back in,
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  Speaker 2: we get to be part of the solution. We can
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  Speaker 2: become part of it. We step right back into the
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  Speaker 2: right relationship with the keystone species.
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  Speaker 1: If people want to see more of this and they
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  Speaker 1: want to read more about what was your website.
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  Speaker 2: Zach Bush MD is the website and the book is
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  Speaker 2: Biological Elegance, and you're gonna only find it there. We're
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  Speaker 2: not putting out on Amazon. We're not asking anybody to
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 2: go after money or abstract systems. We're asking for engagement.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want followers, I want builders. I want create
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  Speaker 2: I want the co creators that are going to come
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  Speaker 2: build this new world with us. This is my excitement
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  Speaker 2: and passion. I think you're doing a great job pushing
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  Speaker 2: us there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and I know you're going to get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that check this out now. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited. This is a fun conversation. Let's definitely do
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  Speaker 1: another one. I look forward you all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, very much,