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By Order of the Faithfuls: Celebs? Don’t Need Them! (The Traitors: New Blood Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to all you faithfuls and traders for
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. We are
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  Speaker 1: finally talking about traders once again. Wells Adams here alongside
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  Speaker 1: someone who I've missed very, very much.
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  Speaker 2: Tamara Judge. I feel like it's been like two years
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  Speaker 2: since we've done this. Um, what has been going on
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  Speaker 2: in your life? Like, did you have kids? Did you, what,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on? I feel like it's been forever.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Um, let's see. Um, I, I, I host
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  Speaker 1: a show on the golf channel. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you know that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you were kind of dipping into that. Your wife
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  Speaker 2: was on Broadway.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. You were going back and forth. Now she's on
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  Speaker 1: the West end in London doing cabaret. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Good for her.
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  Speaker 1: Today is her opening night. So look, can we put
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  Speaker 1: out some good vibes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel like having a wife that's so
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  Speaker 2: crazy busy like that?
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  Speaker 1: It's a bummer because, I mean, New York was far
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  Speaker 1: for me to go visit her. London's worse. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're a fan of geography, but it's very
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  Speaker 1: far to get over there.
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  Speaker 2: I actually failed it in high school, but I have
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  Speaker 2: been there before. So I know it's a trek to
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  Speaker 2: get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just very proud of her. This is
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  Speaker 1: a dream role for her to be Sally Bowles in
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  Speaker 1: Cabaret and then getting to do it on the West
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  Speaker 1: End and then getting to do the West End in
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  Speaker 1: the same year of doing a Broadway show, I think
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  Speaker 1: is like very unique.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So to be safe, no kids. You didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any kids.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. she's too busy for me to get laid.
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  Speaker 1: What do you, that's what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: Phone sex just doesn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: No, it does. It doesn't make babies. That's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get into this traders new blood season one. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not missing the celebs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not either. And I, I had a feeling that
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  Speaker 1: this was going to happen for me. Um, what's so
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  Speaker 1: fun about this is that because you don't know them,
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  Speaker 1: they can be anyone they want.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah. It's like when you watch the celebrities,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I know, that's the asshole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: Refresh my memory. Have they done that in the US
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  Speaker 2: version at all? Or has it always been celebs?
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  Speaker 1: In season one, they had half.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Half normies.
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  Speaker 2: Half and half.
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  Speaker 1: And then a half celebrities. And this is the first year.
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  Speaker 1: But see, in the UK, they do... civilians, I think
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  Speaker 1: is what they call them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen, but I'll have to tell you, it's not
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  Speaker 2: as good as this one.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. And I'm liking it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Alan. So you're thinking maybe it's Alan hosting
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  Speaker 2: it or they just really picked them well this time.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the show just needed to get popular
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  Speaker 1: enough to then not need the celebrities anymore. The celebrities
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  Speaker 1: got them, I think, all the eyeballs for those first
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  Speaker 1: three seasons. And now they're like, The show is winning Emmys.
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  Speaker 1: Alan's winning Emmys. We probably don't need to pay these.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, damn it. I wish I was on like
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  Speaker 1: season five or six. Being at the very beginning, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I know. He's not as great, all those things. And
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  Speaker 2: people aren't watching as much. But I'll tell you, some
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  Speaker 2: of these characters, I would assume they are on TV.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I swear I've seen Joe in an early
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  Speaker 2: 2000 sitcom with Rosie O'Donnell or something. He just looks
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  Speaker 2: like the type.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, it's very interesting. I mean, obviously they probably
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  Speaker 1: had a rigorous casting call for this and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people had to do lots of like kind of chemistry
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  Speaker 1: reads and stuff to get on the show, but you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Like watching, um, watching the show. I'm like, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: through it being like, okay. Uh, Ben McDonald's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, I know Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Do you really?
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  Speaker 2: Ben DeGeneres was in dinner with Ben. Yes. Um, He's
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  Speaker 2: actually a friend of somebody I know within the industry.
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  Speaker 2: And we went to dinner and I met him and
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  Speaker 2: his partner. And it was so like we became instant
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  Speaker 2: friends because he has a ranch with all these animals
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  Speaker 2: and we would talk about it and we would text.
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  Speaker 2: And when he got on the show, he did not
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  Speaker 2: tell me, obviously, because he couldn't. And then when it
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  Speaker 2: came out, I'm like, what the? I go, okay, give
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  Speaker 2: it to me. Did somebody get you in there?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, I did it all on my own.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah. We're going to try to get them on
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  Speaker 2: the pod. I talked to him yesterday, but you know
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  Speaker 2: how strict they are?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Peacock's so strict. And so they can't go on any
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  Speaker 2: podcasts until they are out.
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  Speaker 1: Eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We'll get them on eventually.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Hopefully.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That would be awesome. I also want to get Clyde on.
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  Speaker 1: He seems amazing. Jay seems amazing. I liked Kim, the,
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  Speaker 1: the lawyer slash basketball coach.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, do you think it was her karma to get
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  Speaker 2: murdered after lying about who she was?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into that because you have a theory
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  Speaker 1: about that. And then, you know, when I met Kate, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: the 23 year old, I was like, Oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: a TV star. And then the same with Joe, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Joe, Katie, Tamika.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She also looks like she's an actress, just the way
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  Speaker 2: she comes off and talks and so comfortable and natural
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  Speaker 2: in front of the cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She's a pilot.
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  Speaker 1: Christy is like the sassy Southern girl.
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  Speaker 2: That's just like, she just, I just wanted to call
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  Speaker 2: her Karen. She's such a Karen.
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  Speaker 1: She went hard.
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  Speaker 2: She put a target on her back. And then what
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  Speaker 2: about Victor?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Victor, you can't talk about Victor without talking
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  Speaker 1: about Madeline or Madeline.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to be the couple? You
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  Speaker 2: know how every season there's like a heartthrob. There's the
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  Speaker 2: girl that's going to be on Dancing with the Stars.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to be the same for
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  Speaker 2: these civilians as it is for, let's say, regular traders
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  Speaker 2: with celebrities on there?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to get, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to put the cart before the horse because we
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  Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet as a producer. I would, I
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  Speaker 1: am so annoyed that things went down the way they
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  Speaker 1: did because I think all you want is a showmance
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  Speaker 1: to happen on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you like, you want to film them
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  Speaker 1: both going up to bed together. Like, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of showmances, you heard about CT and Phaedra, right? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're together.
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  Speaker 2: They're together. Now, they were on my season.
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  Speaker 1: And I would- Was this Mark's then?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. Well, it's hard to tell with Phaedra because
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  Speaker 2: she's so friendly with everybody. And he was going through
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  Speaker 2: it at the time. I had conversations with him. He
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  Speaker 2: was going through a divorce. He had a girlfriend that
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  Speaker 2: he ended up married and divorced since I've seen him last.
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  Speaker 2: And he was going through things with his son and
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff. So Phaedra was always there kind of
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  Speaker 2: comfort him and stuff. So I just thought it was
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  Speaker 2: Phaedra being Phaedra. And then when it came out that
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  Speaker 2: they're like dating, I'm like, Oh my God, I should
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  Speaker 2: have seen that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, I can totally see them working too. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know them personally, but just from watching them on
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  Speaker 1: TV for so long, I'm like, yeah, that's, this checks out.
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  Speaker 1: This works.
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  Speaker 2: And Xavier, I thought at first that he was a
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  Speaker 2: basketball player. You know, he's already been on watch what
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  Speaker 2: happens live.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really?
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  Speaker 2: He was the bartender. oh yeah coming from my job
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  Speaker 2: yeah yeah sounds like yeah but Tamika she's a she's
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  Speaker 2: a force man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah she's gonna be a really good trader all right
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  Speaker 1: let's go let's get into the episode the players arrive
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  Speaker 1: it seems like um the beginning of Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah Hogwarts I mean I'm loving the train station loving
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  Speaker 2: it I.
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  Speaker 1: Am too I mean like so right it's um It's
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  Speaker 1: a storytelling device. We don't know these people. So this
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  Speaker 1: is our opportunity to learn who they are vis-a-vis interviewing
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  Speaker 1: each other on a train. I thought it was very
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  Speaker 1: smart because I was like, how are they going to
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  Speaker 1: do this? Are they going to have intro packages for everyone?
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  Speaker 2: Very smart.
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  Speaker 1: Very cool. Yeah. The train mechanism was good. So we
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  Speaker 1: find out in the beginning that Kim is a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: but she's telling everyone that she's a college basketball coach
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  Speaker 1: to avoid suspicion. Michael has the opposite approach. He's a lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not hiding it. If you were a civilian
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  Speaker 1: in this, would you change what your job is on
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  Speaker 1: the show?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just feel if you lie, you're just going
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  Speaker 2: to get bit in the ass by it. And there
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  Speaker 2: was already another attorney there. I think that she was
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  Speaker 2: so well-liked that people wanted her to stick around. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was totally necessary, but I get
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  Speaker 2: where she's coming from. She's like scared. She's like, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to, but she really leaned into the lie. She
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  Speaker 2: had a college picked out. She was talking about it
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  Speaker 2: and we're like, Hmm. I know.
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  Speaker 1: But what happens if like, someone's like, yeah, I went
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  Speaker 1: to Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Right. That's what I, that's what I was thinking. What
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  Speaker 2: if somebody was like, called her out on it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It was, it's interesting because I mean, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: know what ends up happening and, you know, later in
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  Speaker 1: the episode. So would she have been more on the
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  Speaker 1: chopping block if she was a lawyer or?
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  Speaker 2: I think she should have just, she should have just
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  Speaker 2: been honest. If she wanted to lie about something, go, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I do HOA law. You know what I mean? Like
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  Speaker 2: something that doesn't really, I'm not a criminal attorney or
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. Oh, I do, you know, I do HOA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mainly pro bono work for me. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: trying to get... Yeah, it's just a side hustle. Trying
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  Speaker 1: to get orphans adopted, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, do something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be like a defense attorney for
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  Speaker 1: serial killers. It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Alan introduces a new incentive this season with each trader
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  Speaker 1: they banish, the faithfuls will add an extra $ 15, 000 to
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  Speaker 1: the prize pot. Um, this is a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, more money, more money. Uh, I, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they, they, I know they like to
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  Speaker 2: switch it up and they did switch things up a
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  Speaker 2: lot in the first couple episodes. Um, do you think
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  Speaker 2: it's because nobody can get a trader out until episode six?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's one of them, one of the reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I think the other reason is, especially like in the
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  Speaker 1: season that I was in, season three, it ended with
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  Speaker 1: like a kind of a kumbaya, like, you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: have everyone eat a little bit of the money. Oh, true.
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't leave for that one thing that I
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  Speaker 1: think they wanted, which was someone trying to get another
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  Speaker 1: traitor out, but ends up being a faithful and then
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  Speaker 1: kind of a messed up ending. I think they want
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  Speaker 1: to recreate that. I think that this is more for
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  Speaker 1: the end of the show than it is for the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It kind of incentivized people like traitors to get
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  Speaker 2: out traitors too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The players explore the castle. Victor seems to have
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  Speaker 1: a little crush on Madeline. He says one of his
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  Speaker 1: greatest weaknesses is pretty girls, so he has to separate
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  Speaker 1: church and state.
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  Speaker 2: I thought for sure they were going to be the
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  Speaker 2: castle couple, but we see what happens to Madeline.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I was even hoping for like a Jim
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  Speaker 1: and Pam situation, like will they, won't they for a couple.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: At least for like three good episodes. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: was exciting to see them running around the castle like
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  Speaker 2: little kids looking. And then you have Logan, who I
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  Speaker 2: like to call Jeffrey Dahmer, who is just walking around
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  Speaker 2: the castle going, zero expression, hands behind the back. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you are the first person to go if I was
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  Speaker 2: on that cast because you're creepy ass.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm like, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's going to get taken out. Cause he is just,
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  Speaker 1: he's like lurking.
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  Speaker 2: He's lurking. And then he gets like his fried chicken
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  Speaker 2: at one point. He's like, yeah, this looks good. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Alan starts doing the interviews with the cast. Um,
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  Speaker 1: He talks to Joe and you know, Joe has this
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  Speaker 1: one like locked and loaded in the chamber. He's a
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  Speaker 1: funeral director and he can do the murders and get
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: rid of the bodies too. Did you, did you have
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: a sit down with Alan that they aired?
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  Speaker 2: They did not air mine. And I was going to
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: ask you the same thing. Like, what did you say?
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  Speaker 2: And I just remember sitting down there and being like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you going to do with the money? It's like,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm like, well, you know, I don't really count
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  Speaker 2: my money until it's in the bank. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what to say.
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  Speaker 1: I think I said, I want to give it to
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  Speaker 1: a philanthropic arm, uh, of like a, like a dog
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  Speaker 1: shelter and try to like get the, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Because it was dog. And then there was Ben that's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the house pig is the new dog. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, everyone. Um, so we gotta, we gotta select some
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  Speaker 1: traders here. Everyone puts on their blindfolds at the round table.
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  Speaker 1: Alan selects Joe as the first trader and Tamika as
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  Speaker 1: the second, then he announces that another player will join
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  Speaker 1: the traders. And Faithful will be murdered tonight.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about this whole traitor pick and how,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're going to have, you know, we don't know,
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  Speaker 2: one or two more traitors come in and we'll find
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  Speaker 2: out later how it works. But is it just them
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: mixing things up to try to make it more interesting?
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  Speaker 1: I think the most interesting thing that happened in the
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  Speaker 1: last season was like, do you remember Rob was having
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  Speaker 1: to sneak around the house and find something or hide something.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a murder in plain sight, but
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  Speaker 1: it was like this B storyline. Can Rob get this
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  Speaker 1: thing done? Yes. And I think that the audience loved it.
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  Speaker 2: Loved that.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a mechanism to get more of that
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  Speaker 1: stuff where you're just following someone and see if they
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  Speaker 1: can get something done. Yeah. I think it's genius. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fun because it lets the traders... choose and
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  Speaker 1: then but it also the stakes are really high for
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  Speaker 1: because both those people want to be traitors right and
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  Speaker 1: they but they do not want to be the second person.
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  Speaker 2: Murdered who do you predict i think it's katie.
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  Speaker 1: I think katie's gonna win she seems like the television
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  Speaker 1: star to me yeah i But they both are big personalities.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so funny. If I wasn't supposed to know
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  Speaker 1: who was who at that murder, I'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that one's 5'1, and that one's 7 feet tall. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty sure I could deduce who these people are.
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  Speaker 2: Very true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The players have their first mission. They're searching a shipwreck
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  Speaker 1: for gold, $ 50, 000 in the line, three shields up for grabs.
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  Speaker 1: Victor immediately prioritized getting a shield over helping collecting money.
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  Speaker 1: Abby L and Madeline take the two other shields, but
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  Speaker 1: they kind of wait and that becomes important later on
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  Speaker 1: in the episode.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about, is it just too early
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  Speaker 2: to just go run for the shield and grab it?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: It's going to put a target on your back?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because You can argue it both ways.
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  Speaker 1: You can be like, I'm not a traitor. And so
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  Speaker 1: I want to ensure that I'm not going to be
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  Speaker 1: murdered tonight. But then you can say, well, if I
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: was a traitor, I might use that and say that.
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  Speaker 1: So then people don't think that, you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: I can see it. I could see it both ways.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: The most important thing about these missions for me is
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: showcasing your value in helping the collective make the money,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: you know? Yeah.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's where he screwed up is
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: that he just ran beeline for that and took it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: And it was either like, you know, either he's a
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: traitor or he's just a selfish butthole. Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think that that's grounds to get banished?
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Early on, you know how it is. Early on, nobody
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: has anything to go off of. So they're going off
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: of sweaty boy and heavy breathing and things like that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: So that's going to give them a reason. They're like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: you know what? If you're not a traitor, you are
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a selfish faithful.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think the way that I would probably
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: play it is I would help as much as I
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: could in the beginning. And I think, and be also
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: like hyper aware of who's getting them. And then after
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: maybe the second one was gotten, I might try to
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: make a dash for the third. Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I just needed somebody to eat the raw salmon off
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: those nicely displayed silver platters when they opened up. I'm like,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: come on, somebody take a bite. You know, somebody put
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: that together.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I've been sitting out there all day.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: The traders meet in the turret for the first time.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Joe and Tamika discover that they're working together and they
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: both seem pretty happy about it. Alan reveals the twist.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They must choose two players to compete for. The remaining
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: trader position won't become a trader and the other will
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: be murdered. That's savage. It's so savage. It's so fun.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: If you're in the turret, let's say you're Tamika here.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Joe. what are we thinking in terms of who the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: two people are that we want to buy to become traders?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Like what are the qualifications?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't do very well at the show. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw that out there first. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: think like you have to have, you know, I don't know.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of ways of looking at it. You
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: have a good person at big personality. You know, what
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the viewers don't know is, These two have spent a
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: lot of time at this point with everybody. As viewers,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: we don't know them like they do. And so they
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: obviously saw something in Katie, for sure. And you could
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: see the more the time goes on, she's got something.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is because it's too soon.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And then you just have Xavier, who's just a big guy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It's just I think it's a tough decision who to pick. Like,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: what if you just pick like Jeffrey Dahmer, who's just
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: quiet and maybe there's no suspicion on him. I don't know. Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: To me, that would be like a sacrificial lamb that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you're bringing into the turret because you know that there'll
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: be a shield for you because he'll probably get voted out.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: And there's that one guy that we haven't seen much of, Mark,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the personal trainer. Very, very quiet. One person I wouldn't
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: have picked was.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Christy.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, you know, my theory of like, if you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: don't see someone early on in a season, that means
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they're going a long way because a lot of their
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: storylines happening in, you know, the second and third act.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm actually really proud of Ben because he's kind
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of keeping a low profile and he's a big guy. Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And with a big personality, it seems like. Yeah. Yes.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And he's just keeping a low profile, which is very,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: very smart.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I think that what the traders did in picking both teams,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: katie and xavier i think that was smart one because
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: katie's young so she can um she can kind of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: empathize with the younger cast yeah help them uh with
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: information like it's like they're diversifying who's in the turret
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and then i think xavier's a really good pick because
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of his size that like, you know, he's going to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: continue to get you more and more money in the challenges.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So it's almost like a win-win. Like it doesn't really
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: matter who wins. I was interested to see if they
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't throw someone in there that they kind of wanted
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to murder anyways, you know, like they were already concerned
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: about and then it would be.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So this murder is going to happen on, Episode three. Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Because I was confused at first. I thought that they
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: had to murder somebody and then pick the two. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: out of that too, that was the person that was
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: going to be murdered, but no, it was not, not
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: one of them.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Kim.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, the episode ends with the accomplices identities not being, uh,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: revealed episode two. We finally learned the identity of the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: two accomplices. It is, yes, it is young Katie and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: tall Xavier.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, Now when they were in the forest and they had,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I assume it was Kim's body in the coffin.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And then they, it was the two of them with
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: axes like sending her off. And it's like crying, crying river,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: which had that Justin Timberlake song. I'm like, Oh my God. Okay.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So this is a, this is a behind the scenes
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: producerial question that I want to ask you. You think
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that Kim was really there? No, no.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: It's some handler they threw in that cloak. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: There's probably nobody in there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I did like the mechanism of them sending her down
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the river, you know? I know. Like in Hades or something.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I swear, it gets better and better every season.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. uh xavier targets his competition he starts casting suspicion
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: on katie immediately hoping her banishment will clear his path
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to becoming a traitor uh he does this in front
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of joe and tamika not knowing they're the other traitors
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you think this is a smart play or do you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: think you should try to keep a low profile i.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Think you should shut up i do too it's just
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: stupid and joe needs to shut up too oh my
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: god And then Tamika, she was like, do you think
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: someone got murdered last night? No shit, girl. Say less.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You knew somebody was going to get murdered. Sometimes you
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: say too much. And then Joe's like, I'm going to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: keep it cool like the Fonz. And I'm like, no,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you're not.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You're not going to. And then they do that early
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: roundtable situation where we normally would do it at night.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: They're like, nope, you're going to murder somebody now. Or
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: banish somebody now.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, Joe, I don't know if you remember
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on season one, there was a civilian named Christian who
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: wore like a big hat and he was like a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: big personality.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: That was a traitor.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Who was giving Christian vibes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Yeah. I was bummed to see Kim gone because
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I just, I wanted to see more of her. Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But it's always sucks to be the first one to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: go home.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Or the second.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Tell me about it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is that to fast forward to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that round table, I'm sitting there being like, I was Victor.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I was like the nice looking guy who's like, wait, what?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: What's happening?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He cracked me up at the round table. I'm a
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: sweaty boy.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Those exact words, by the way.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I hope he makes it far. I think now. somebody
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: else has put a target on their back. And I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: hoping that he, because he kind of has a funny
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: quirky personality. Like he had no idea, like going and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: grabbing that shield immediately meant anything.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: He's like, what do you mean? Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't I?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: This is a good argument. Like we talking about, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: thought we'd try to not die.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. But you have to be a little bit
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: more strategic.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Meanwhile, the players are discussing the first murder. Madeline
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: says she would feel bad for picking Kim to be murdered.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: But Christy hears her say, I feel bad picking Kim,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: which makes her think that Madeline slipped up and revealed
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: her identity as a traitor. Christy tells multiple people what
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: she heard and everyone starts to become suspicious of Madeline.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Did you hear what Christy heard or did you hear?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I use subtitles, but they bleep something
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: out even on the subtitles that you can see, hear
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: what she said or read what she said. So I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: would have wished that Christy would have said, wait, what
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: did you just say?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So she could either clarify it because it's so early on,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it's so hard to pick somebody. And why didn't Madeline
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: at the time, like just at the round table, be like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: why would I do that?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Why would I be so stupid? Like she didn't help
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: herself at all. Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I got to say though, I could definitely see her
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: being a traitor. She's really, really pretty. Yep. I bet
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you cameras were on her a lot in the beginning.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I could kind of see how... how a lot of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: people thought both of them, Victor and Madeline were traitors together.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: But if you watch some of the other seasons, like
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: we had Peppermint who slipped and said something and then got,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know, banished for that. I think if you studied
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the shows long enough, it's happened a few times. Christy
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: should have said like, well, wait, what did you just say?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Apparently I said something. I don't remember this, but
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Boston Robb, after the, he wasn't a trader yet. We
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: were driving back after a mission and we were both
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: in the back. And apparently I said something that made
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: him think that I was a trader. Yeah. Then he
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: became a trader that night and realized that I wasn't.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So like, it wasn't a storyline, but if he was
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a faithful, he was.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You said, you said this in the car.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I think every single season, somebody slipped. Yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So I don't know in the future, just like, Maybe ask. Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I would have asked. Yeah. Would you have asked? Like,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: what did you say? Can you clarify that? Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: The problem is, is that, well, so I wish that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: she had asked because it would have put a pin
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in it for Victor, right? Because her only accomplice in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the whole thing is Victor.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: To have heard it, right? Because it's a, he said,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: she said, and then you have one other guy. So
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you have to put a pin in that to be like, wait,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: hold on. What did you, did I just hear you say, Victor,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: did you hear that? And then when she accuses Madeline
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of this at the roundtable and she also asks Victor,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then at least Victor can be like, ah, I heard it,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's what she said. You know, like.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Well, Victor's like his face, nothing changed when she said it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So it's. Then at the round table, he's like, I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: didn't hear that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell from experience when you don't
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: think you're on the chopping block and then all of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a sudden, like everyone's against you. It's really nerve wracking.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: This is really spiraling out of control. I think that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: kind of what happened to both Madeline and Victor. Everyone
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: at the round table also scrutinizing Victor for getting that
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: shield so early in the mission. Right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Christy brings up the supposed confession, shifting the conversation towards her.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You know what was interesting about this? Is that Christy
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and Xavier both pipe up at the same time, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Christy goes, like, I want to go first. And that
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was the moment that Xavier was going to be like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Katie's a traitor.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, you think so?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, 100%.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And then that happened and it was like, okay, the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: room has shifted. I can't even try to do this
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to her, you know?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It's probably best that he didn't.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: But just how much he wants to call her out,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to hurt him. And I think,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you know, with Tamika, she saw that and she made
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a comment. She's like, well, I don't really want a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: traitor that's going to come after me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Exactly.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to win, but I, you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: who knows? It could be wrong. Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It definitely seems like, okay, if you guys are both
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like traders in, you know, in practice right now,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you're one of the people that goes
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: after traders and we don't want that. We don't want
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: trader on trader hate. Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I have a question for you. Madeline, um, So
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Victor stood up for Madeline and didn't write her name down. Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: But Madeline did not stick up for Victor. Do you
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think that that was a smart move? She probably thought
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: it was between the two of them.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So she was counting numbers. He wasn't. It's something
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that I wish I had done because the numbers came
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: down to, I had, I think, seven votes. I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Robin had six and Ivers had six. I knew there
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: was heat on Ivers. And I remember thinking if I
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: just voted for him, he would have gotten the seventh
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: vote and I would have been safe. Right. I wasn't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: thinking that way. I was thinking like, you know, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: was angry about how things went down. So I was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: trying to go after Robin. And that's exactly what Victor did.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: He voted for Christy because he was like, I don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: know if that's true. And then Adeline was smart enough
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to be like, I got to play numbers here. Sorry, buddy. Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: So it was a smart move.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know that I would have done that though.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I would think like that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: But ultimately Madeline receives 13 votes and is banished from
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the castle at the circle of truth. She calls Christie
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a liar. I know right there and reveals that she
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: is a faithful after the banishment. Christie becomes emotional, obviously
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because she was so wrong about Madeline.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: She's all, I'm not a liar. I'm not a liar.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And Victor's like, you're not a good hearer either.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's such a good line. He's got a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: lot of good one liners.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But how about afterwards? This is like, threw me
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit. You know, Christie's all upset. Joe's hugging
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: her and he's saying, don't worry. No one is holding
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it against you. And the ones that do don't matter.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is that smart for a traitor to say that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah i don't know i don't know if joe's just
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: trying to be everyone's best friend yeah gotta know if
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he has any brains he's gotta know that she's definitely
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: probably going home next episode in the round table right yeah.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah i would think so i mean you never know
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you know how things just switch and yeah Somebody else
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: gets suspicion on someone else and it can turn around
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: so quickly. But if it doesn't, then she's gone.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she's gone. And then I think they
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: might go back to Victor. That's how I would think
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: about it. The accomplices face their final test. This is
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: very fun. Katie and Xavier must retrieve a hidden death
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: warrants from two copies of Crime and Punishment, which are
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: hidden in the castle. They have until the final clock
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: chimes to complete the task. Are you on with these
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: side quests? Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's cute. I think it's fun. You're like
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: wanting to yell at the TV at one point. I'm like, Xavier,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: just pull the book off and just look like you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: just looking like no big deal. Like open it up
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: just to see if you can find it in there
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and then close it. Could he like have shoved it
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: in his shirt and like walked in the bathroom or
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: he had to do it in plain sight?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing. I was like, what
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I would have done was I would have put that
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in my, in like, Yeah, shoving your pants. And I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: would have gone to the bathroom.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yes. But then I was wondering like, oh, do they
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: have to do it in front of everyone? And of
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: course we don't get to see, you know, there's two
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: different rooms, two different books. And is it just, what
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: are they looking for? Just a piece of paper?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess, yeah, it's a death warrant. I mean,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Katie gets really close where she's like going through the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: book and isn't able to find it. You got to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do that thing where you take the, you know, shake it. Yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Shake it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I was like, I would have just
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: like grabbed the book, like just looking at the books
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and go, Oh, look at this and just kind of
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: look through it. See if you can find it, put
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: it back. Just so you kind of know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I also have been like, you know what I probably
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: would have done. I would have probably been like, man,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: this library is so, so vast. And then like gone
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and looked at like other books and going through other books,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you know, and then like, Oh, this is a great one.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I read that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I read that back in ninth grade.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, but the bathroom thing theory, I think maybe
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they probably couldn't do it. They probably have to do
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it right there in broad daylight in front of everyone.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I got a feeling production was like, all right, you
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: got to do this, but we have to get it
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: on camera. So you can't like go. Yeah.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: You can't go run into the bathroom or the, or
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the cameras are coming in.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Until the final clock chimes to complete the task.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think that anyone did it? I got to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: believe somebody did it. I know.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: What if they both did it?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then it just comes down to who do you
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: want on your team, I guess, as a traitor.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Is this the final? Like if one doesn't get it,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: they're gone? Or do the traitors get to pick who's
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: going to be murdered?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. So the way that the super
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: tease ends at the end of the show is that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the traitors, Alan, and then the two potential traitors are there.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And he says something to the effect of like, all right,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: who was able to get the death warrant? Yeah. So
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: it implies that if you don't have the death warrant,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I guess that is your death warrant. And if you do,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: then you have the potential to be picked as a traitor.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: What's interesting, and this is what I think is going
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to happen, is that they're both going to have it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And then what? So then they just choose who dies?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I think you, I mean, who do
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you pick? I don't know. If they both have it,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: who do you pick?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I just have a feeling Katie is going to be
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a traitor.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's the young part that they want. And
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Tamika had said something about having young eyes. And then
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I think what Xavier did trying to, you know, run
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: over Katie is not going to be a good look
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: for him at the end.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Now, you know, the traitor season five, is it five
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: or six? There's a new celebrity cast out.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my buddy Joey Grazadeh is on it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So it's an exciting cast. Kristen Chenoweth, Dominic. Some of
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: these people I don't even know. Chloe. I obviously know
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the Bravo people, Cynthia Bailey, who's going to be great.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Bronwyn Newport, she's on there, another housewife. Craig from Southern Charm, excited.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Just interviewed him a couple weeks ago. Um, so there,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to film, they're filming now.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: They are. Yeah. I, I knew, um, I knew Joey
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Grazadeh was going to be on the show. Cause we
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: were supposed to play in a golf tournament and he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was like, I gotta go. And I'm like, where.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Are you going? He was on the bachelor, right?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He was the bachelor. He won with the stars. Um,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I know who he is.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if they make, I would
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: make him a trader because I think you would want
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: him on your TV screens and he's so lovable. Um,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but I think that if you are that in traders
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and you are just a faithful through, you know, so.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: We're going to be busy. So if this is filming
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: right now, when does it air normally? Like after the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: first of the year, don't they have a pretty quick turnaround?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Scheduled to premiere in 2027. So yeah, it's usually like
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: right in the beginning of the year.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. January.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: January. So that's good.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's good.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Do we know how many episodes this, the new blood has?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Is it the same? Do you notice they're only 40 minutes?
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Or was it short?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: They're shorter. They're only 40, 42 minutes.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I have with commercial. 12 episodes in this one. That's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: why I feel like the old ones were 11, 10 episodes.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So I kind of like it 40 minutes.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: More palatable.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Cut out the, the fluff stuff. Just give
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: us the good stuff.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: You know, what's one thing that was weird to me?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: What?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed it, but like the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: guys from Harry Potter were like in the beginning.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: What?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: What?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: The two twins that opened the candy store.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: They showed them.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're at the castle. Like Alan calls them and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: he's like, get the castle ready or something like that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are they doing here? And then
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you never see them again.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they just made it. They just wanted to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: give it that Hogwarts kind of feel.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Or they're good.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I miss that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I have to go back and watch, but I'm not
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: a big Harry Potter person.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Like obviously I've seen some of them, but so I
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have known the twins.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's Ron's older brothers,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I believe. Oh, yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Very cool. Um, all right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: This is, this is so fun that this is back traders,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: new blood. If you guys aren't watching the show alongside us,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you need to, you're not that far behind. There's only
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: two episodes out right now. Again, we'll be back next
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: week to recap episode three. If you're not following us
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: on social media, please do app by order of the faithfuls. T,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: it's so good to have you back. I know.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's good to have the band back. And we'll have
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Dolores next week. I think she's traveling this week.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: She's a busy girl.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And you guys have been doing podcasts together. right?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: We've been doing, we've been recapping a bunch of weird shows.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: One was about nannies who, uh, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: But you, you guys went from traders to survivor.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Survivor was very fun.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And they asked me if I said, no, thank you. No,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: thank you. But, um, yeah, glad that traders is back.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: So excited. So we'll be with you for a while.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So we have 12 weeks with new blood and then
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: won't be that long before season, is it six? I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: can't remember.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Season five.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Five, five comes out.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Or maybe it's six. I don't know if this is considered.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Five, yeah, that's what I was wondering.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Five because it's civilians. Last question I've got for you.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Of the traders and the two potential new traders, who
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: do you think the first trader to be banished will be?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I'm afraid that possibly Joe is going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: get banished just because he has a big mouth and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: he can't help himself.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I'm fearful of that because I really like him.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I know. He's such a big personality, but I think
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: he's going to trip up. We'll see.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Who do you think so far is going to be
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: doing commercials, getting those Cheez-It commercial or whatever it is?
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Katie? Katie? I think seems like a star.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: If Joe makes it for a while, I think he
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: will too.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Yep. And then if Victor can somehow get out of this,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he's got a million dollar smile and he's a sweaty boy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like he could sell some like deodorant.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Deodorant. Exactly. Exactly. You're so right about that. Axe for
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: men or whatever it is.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Hold on. We can get this guy for cheap right now.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So true. So true. Well, it was nice reconnecting and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: we'll see you next week. Yeah.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: If you guys aren't following us again on social media,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: please do. And DM us any questions, concerns, or comments
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: you've got about this season of, of traders new blood.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And we'll see you guys all again next week. See ya.