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TRB INTERVIEWS | William Person: Team USA bobsledder turned CTE and brain trauma activist (7/15/26, Hour 2) · The Recess Bell

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Speaker 2: via The Recess Bell was blessed to alongside Nicki Marie
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Speaker 2: sit down with former Team USA Bob Slutter and current
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Speaker 2: c T activists William person Enough. For those that are
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Speaker 2: are not completely familiar with CTE, it does stand for
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Speaker 2: chronic traumatic encephalopathy in English. That means you take too
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Speaker 2: many one too many blows to the head and you
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Speaker 2: get a lot of these symptoms that you know play
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Speaker 2: out in erratic behavior. It's commonly found most commonly found
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Speaker 2: in contact sports American football soccer. If you're watching the
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Speaker 2: World Cup right now, the way these guys go up
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Speaker 2: for these headers, and mind you, they are not wearing
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Speaker 2: helmets like NFL players do. They're just going up for
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Speaker 2: a raw dog and making forceful contact head to head.
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Speaker 2: That's not really ideal if you want to avoid c
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Speaker 2: to eat. Now, some of the symptoms before we get
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Speaker 2: started with will cognitive symptoms, memory loss, difficulty planning and declining,
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Speaker 2: problem solving skills, symptoms related to mood, depression, anxiety, apathy,
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Speaker 2: and yes, suicidal tendencies not good behavioral symptoms, increased impulsivity,
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Speaker 2: short temper, paranoia, aggression, and motor symptoms. You can face tremors,
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Speaker 2: you have weakness in your joints, and you can even
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Speaker 2: be at risk for parkinsonism. You know, Parkinson's is no joke.
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Speaker 2: To lose control of your motor skills, your motor functions
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Speaker 2: in your body and not being listen, we can't really
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Speaker 2: control much in the world, but not even being able
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Speaker 2: to control your body, not even really being able to
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Speaker 2: control or regulate your thoughts again makes you very erratic
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Speaker 2: in mood and behavior. It's quite literally a nightmare and
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Speaker 2: we see effect NFL player after NFL player. Unfortunately, it
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Speaker 2: cannot be diagnosed before death. It can only be diagnosed
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Speaker 2: after an autopsy of the brain has done post mortem.
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Speaker 2: That's why I want to talk about it. That's why
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Speaker 2: I want to spread awareness about it. And without further ado,
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Speaker 2: i'ms here from William Person. Now got the interview started,
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Speaker 2: welcomed him to the platform, described to him what we
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Speaker 2: do now. He talked about his experience Bob's letting William
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Speaker 2: Person did, and he talked about his own CTE diagnosis.
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Speaker 2: Not to bury the lead the entire show, but yes,
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Speaker 2: William Person was diagnosed or he is just all the symptoms.
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Speaker 2: He's going to talk about how a conversation with his
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Speaker 2: girlfriend really opened up the fact that, yeah, this is
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Speaker 2: something that I likely have due to my experience in
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Speaker 2: Bob's letting all the blows to the head I took.
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Speaker 2: And he's going to talk about how that in combination
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Speaker 2: with his mental health really carried him to his cause
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Speaker 2: and his foundation today without further ado. You're a from
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Speaker 2: William person.
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Speaker 3: You know, it was definitely giving me cool runnings.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It was actually my buddies right there. Those are those guys. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: those are my buddies man. Matter of fact, the original
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Speaker 4: generation they were before my time, but you know they
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Speaker 4: still come around every now and then, and then the
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Speaker 4: second generation. We're friends of mine and I'm always try
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Speaker 4: to help those guys with. They're really good people. Matter
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Speaker 4: of fact, when my mom passed in twenty eighteen, out
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Speaker 4: of all the people in the world who called me
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Speaker 4: first to check on.
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Speaker 1: Me, it was those guys. You know, that's how such
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Speaker 1: good people they are. Man. Yeah, I love those guys. Wow. Yeah, yes,
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Speaker 1: I just threw that out there.
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Speaker 3: I was I wasn't even thinking that, but yeah, well yeah,
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Speaker 3: tell us a little bit of the backstory, and well, I.
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Speaker 4: Think the biggest piece of this thing that brings it
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Speaker 4: full circle is my real background was a mental health
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Speaker 4: When I left college, I was working at this place
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Speaker 4: in Stockton, California. I was twenty three years old. Place
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Speaker 4: was called San Jaiquin County Mental Health Department, and so
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Speaker 4: the first mental health facility west of the Missippi River,
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Speaker 4: and so a lot of people with extreme behaviors came there.
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Speaker 1: To get help. And the truth was, like I cut
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Speaker 1: my teeth there.
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Speaker 4: So I learned a lot and it really came back
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Speaker 4: later helped save my butt because when actually when I
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Speaker 4: joined tm USA, for the first two years, I had
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Speaker 4: opened the first ever independent living and transitional housing program
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Speaker 4: I was doing. Yeah, so it was such a new
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Speaker 4: program that the state opened me as a pilot program.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, man, that was my passion work working with
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Speaker 4: mental health. And so all these things that I taught
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Speaker 4: people over the years, like for one of them is
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Speaker 4: when you have those suicidal thoughts, I told people this
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Speaker 4: one thing. It's like, you know what, if suicide is
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Speaker 4: a great idea today, you know it'll be a good
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Speaker 4: idea tomorrow too, So you don't have to rush and
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Speaker 4: do that. You know, you got some time. Do you
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Speaker 4: have some time to think about that, you know? And
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Speaker 4: so then they get to the next day, they still
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Speaker 4: have an awful day, you know, and they just keep
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Speaker 4: repeating that. And so when I got to my loss,
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Speaker 4: like I didn't even know what was wrong with me.
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Speaker 4: I thought I had diabetes, but the doctors wouldn't give
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Speaker 4: me the insulum.
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Speaker 1: Man. I was like, what is wrong with you? Guys? Man?
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Speaker 4: Look at me, like I can't get out the bed.
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Speaker 4: The only time I can get up is if I
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Speaker 4: pump in a bunch of caffeine. This has to be
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Speaker 4: low plushure. I must to beat that bad But it
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Speaker 4: didn't make sense because I was a clean eater in
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Speaker 4: my whole life, you know, and so it didn't make
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Speaker 4: sense to me. But the symptoms look just like that,
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Speaker 4: and the doctors were right, man. And the truth is
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Speaker 4: it took for one of my well, it took for
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Speaker 4: the last teammate to call me and he was speaking
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Speaker 4: gibberish and like I didn't understand anything he said to me.
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Speaker 4: And because mental health is my background, like I kept
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Speaker 4: telling myself, I got to help this guy. And so
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Speaker 4: I don't know how many weeks went by, but eventually
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Speaker 4: I got the call that he went to his family's
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Speaker 4: factory and he hung hisself.
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Speaker 1: And then I felt like.
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Speaker 4: I felt responsible, probably responsible, you know, because I didn't
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Speaker 4: do anything. I could have helped him, and all I
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Speaker 4: did was talk about it. And then the crazy part
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Speaker 4: is like I didn't forgive myself for a long time.
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Speaker 4: And what actually forget made me forgive myself is eventually
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Speaker 4: I found out he was a stage four when they
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Speaker 4: checked his brain, because you know, you really can't find.
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Speaker 1: Out until you die.
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Speaker 4: Like my driver he committed suicide at the Look Train
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Speaker 4: Center too, and I'm not sure if they found it
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Speaker 4: in his brain or not, but they did find it
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Speaker 4: in my friend Pabl's brain, and when they found it,
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Speaker 4: we were like he was in stage four. So like
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Speaker 4: I kind of calmed me down a little bit because
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Speaker 4: I knew there wasn't anything I could do that was
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Speaker 4: gonna help him. He just you know, he was a
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Speaker 4: stage four. That's why he couldn't talk. But also when
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Speaker 4: I connected the that was I needed help. Like I
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Speaker 4: was living on the floor in my own place, like
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Speaker 4: I had taking the mattress out the bedroom and I
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Speaker 4: put it in living room on the floor, and so
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Speaker 4: it put me right close to the kitchen, the bathroom
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Speaker 4: in the front door.
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Speaker 1: And some days I just couldn't get up. Man, I
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Speaker 1: ain't know.
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Speaker 4: I keep thinking his diabetes. So I had a jar.
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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen any living color? They always hit
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Speaker 4: a jar, you know it with this disgusting stuff in it.
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Speaker 1: Man. Man. Yeah, it was either that always gonna just
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Speaker 1: pee in the bed or something like that.
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Speaker 4: And I wasn't going out like that. I wasn't going out.
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Speaker 4: I was fighting this thing to the end. But like
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Speaker 4: I said, guys, all the symptoms were going over my head.
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Speaker 4: And it took an article from the New York Times
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Speaker 4: to come out called Sledhead, and h let me give
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Speaker 4: you that story.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to overtalk that. Well, let me take
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Speaker 1: a step back.
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Speaker 4: I was doing so bad, like I couldn't take my
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Speaker 4: life because I know how that trauma affects families that
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Speaker 4: you leave behind, and I'm close to my whole family,
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Speaker 4: and I was like, I can't do that to them.
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Speaker 1: But so I was praying for death every night. I'm
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Speaker 1: just praying I just come get me, you know, I
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Speaker 1: can't while make me live another day like this. And
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Speaker 1: uh and so what I did is I was real cloud.
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Speaker 4: I was confused. I was getting lost. So I found
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Speaker 4: a little lake house back in my own community, back
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Speaker 4: in Saint Louis where.
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Speaker 1: I was grew up at.
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Speaker 4: And uh so about this place, and so from my
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Speaker 4: back door, I got a I got a good fishing
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Speaker 4: lake about one hundred yards from the back door. I'm
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Speaker 4: not gonna get lost here, like all I can do
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Speaker 4: here is go fishing or cut the grass. That was it,
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Speaker 4: you know. And so I went back to La. I
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Speaker 4: closed out one of my apartment, closed out my apartment.
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Speaker 4: There was a young lady I was associated with at
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Speaker 4: the time. She's not my girlfriend, but at the time,
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Speaker 4: you know, we still get to know each other. So
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Speaker 4: I wanted to go back from my lake house and
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Speaker 4: Saint Louis come to LA and stay with her sometime,
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Speaker 4: and sometimes she comes stay with me.
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Speaker 1: But she's from New York Man and if.
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Speaker 4: You know anybody from New York Man, I ain't really
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Speaker 4: loud talkers. A oh my god, heap was killing me, man,
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Speaker 4: Like you see me talking to her mom and her
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Speaker 4: sisters every day, like twenty four to seven, and I
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Speaker 4: love it because it's family.
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Speaker 1: But that noise was killing me. So I said, you
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Speaker 1: know what, I'm going back to my lake house. I
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell you to be quiet in your own house.
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Speaker 4: Who the hell am I to do something like that,
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Speaker 4: I said, but we probably should think about moving on.
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Speaker 1: So I got to the lake house. I'm relaxing.
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Speaker 4: The article shows up from the New York Times and
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Speaker 4: it's called Slaidhead. It's really diagnosing all of my teammates
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Speaker 4: symptoms from the Parkinson's all the.
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Speaker 1: Way down to the depression.
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Speaker 4: And I read it and I was like, I get
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Speaker 4: on my knees and I thank god all the symptoms
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Speaker 4: miss me.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I beat all this. So I take the.
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Speaker 4: Same article, send it to my girlfriend. She circles some stuff,
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Speaker 4: and send it back. The first thing I saw was
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Speaker 4: noise sensitivity. It was the whole reason why we were
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Speaker 4: separating the first place. And then I went, uh oh,
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Speaker 4: and I went down that list and I just buy
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Speaker 4: lost it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: It's like I thought I was gonna give me some insulum,
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Speaker 4: you know. I thought that was going to be the
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Speaker 4: end of it. But the truth was like I got
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Speaker 4: the worst case scenario because at that same time Pable's
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Speaker 4: utopic report came out, he was in stage four, and
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Speaker 4: after talking to my teammates, everybody was dealing with it
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Speaker 4: was like it was one or two people.
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Speaker 1: It was.
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Speaker 4: I think I represented six hundred and forty three athletes
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Speaker 4: in court right now, just looking for medical attention.
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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, but it's just it's brutal stuff. It's brutal.
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Speaker 2: Now a few things in there from Will. Now he
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Speaker 2: did say again his real background wasn't mental health before
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Speaker 2: he was a Bobs letter and before his adult life.
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Speaker 2: Really impressive guy. But it goes to show you how
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Speaker 2: the symptoms of CTE the difficult thing about. And I
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Speaker 2: think that this is partly cause to why it's so
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Speaker 2: difficult or impossible to diagnose until somebody passes away autopsy's done.
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Speaker 2: Because the symptoms of CTE the common symptoms that I've
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Speaker 2: read off before I started the interview here, they're so
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Speaker 2: similar to other things. Like Will initially thought, like he
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Speaker 2: said he had diabetes, and then he was looking through
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Speaker 2: the symptoms on his own and it was like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it ain't none of this stuff affecting me. But that's
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Speaker 2: the importance of having a good support system. All the
12:22
Speaker 2: things I write about mental health wives on the recess Bell,
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Speaker 2: that's why it's so important to have a good support system,
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Speaker 2: whether it's family, friends and droves, or it's your spouse.
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Speaker 2: That one person that knows you like the back of
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Speaker 2: the hand inside and out and his girlfriend said, Yo,
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Speaker 2: you are noly sensitive, Like I don't know why you're
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Speaker 2: trying to play like you always coming on how loud
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Speaker 2: I talk and all this stuff, And that's when it
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Speaker 2: clicked for Will, saying, oh man, all this blows to
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Speaker 2: the head and all my teammates suffering from symptoms of CTE,
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Speaker 2: from parkinson like symptoms to everything else. And that's Ledhead article.
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Speaker 2: A Will expanded it on that during this next segment here.
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Speaker 2: It was a New York Times article written by Matthew Futterman.
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Speaker 2: You can search that up William person Sledhead New York
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Speaker 2: Times Now. It discussed CTE symptoms like I just said,
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Speaker 2: and Will also referenced, just as I referenced earlier, the
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Speaker 2: Midtown shooter from September, Shane Temuir, who opened fire on
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Speaker 2: I believe it was the thirty third floor of a
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Speaker 2: Midtown building, and Nicki Marie, who I was blessed through
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Speaker 2: to the interview with I shared a personal story with
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Speaker 2: that Midtown shooting that we'll get to later. But I
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Speaker 2: asked Will to follow up on that Sledhead article, and
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Speaker 2: here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 1: The article Slidhead was just really is an article.
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Speaker 4: It just talked about the symptoms that everybody, A lot
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Speaker 4: of my teammates were having. Like from there, they talked
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Speaker 4: about a couple of suicides. It was a few suicides
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Speaker 4: they left off. They didn't tell you how many other
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Speaker 4: people had actually attempted to commit suicide. It was a
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Speaker 4: lot of a lot more of those people that's not
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Speaker 4: in that list we talked about. I think we had
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Speaker 4: two or three people I know in Parkinson's. So we're
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Speaker 4: a small community too, so you know, it's probably no
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Speaker 4: more than a couple of thousand of us, and we're
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Speaker 4: everybody dealing with the same type of stuff, you know,
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Speaker 4: And it's just yeah, like I said, and it's so
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Speaker 4: sometimes the symptoms look like other stuff. So it's really
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Speaker 4: hard to pinpoint it. You know, it's hard for me
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Speaker 4: to And if you're dealing with it, you definitely. I
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Speaker 4: haven't met one athlete yet except for that New York
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Speaker 4: shooter guy. He's the only person I've ever met who
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Speaker 4: said he has CTE before somebody had to really beat
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Speaker 4: you over the head with it.
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Speaker 1: This is what you have, right, you know, look at.
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Speaker 4: The symptoms, look at what your symptoms are, look at
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Speaker 4: their symptoms. This is what this is. He's the first
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Speaker 4: one I've seen to do that, and I don't know
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Speaker 4: how he did it.
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Speaker 1: He was right because they checked his brain. He definitely
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Speaker 1: has he definitely has CTE.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, like I said earlier, Shane Temurra had that
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Speaker 2: note in his pocket that they found or the police
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Speaker 2: found out there was death saying he detailed that he
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Speaker 2: believed the s CTE, please examine my brain, and that's
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Speaker 2: what they found. But I referenced a moment ago Nicki
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Speaker 2: Marie commenting on her husband Chad working in that same
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Speaker 2: building that the Midtown shooter was open fire and was
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Speaker 2: on the same floor, worked on the same floor that
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Speaker 2: Shane Temiro opened fireing and Nicki and excuse me, Nicki
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Speaker 2: and Will had an intimate back and forth on that
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Speaker 2: he works for rude and management.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and he actually the shooter got to his floor
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Speaker 3: and he was and my husband was explaining to me,
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Speaker 3: you know, there's I guess there's different elevators that you
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Speaker 3: can push, and he just went up to.
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Speaker 1: The same exact floor as my husband.
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Speaker 3: And wow, yeah, wow, I mean luckily, you know where
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Speaker 3: I should say a blessing in disguise, it is that
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Speaker 3: my husband had already left about twenty minutes before.
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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Well, because I have a TikTok channel called
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Speaker 4: One Man with a Chamber. Like when jo name have
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Speaker 4: told us what he was using to verse his symptoms,
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Speaker 4: he used hyperbaric oxygen. He didn't leave details like he
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Speaker 4: just said that it was his blanket statement. And so
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Speaker 4: what I did is when I went through it and
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Speaker 4: I saw I was working, like I made, I make
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Speaker 4: videos so people. I show people how I go through
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Speaker 4: the chamber if I'm having a good day or bad day,
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Speaker 4: because I still, even though it changed a lot of
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Speaker 4: things for me, I'm still having a lot of bad days.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 4: I'm just kind of turning that corner now where I'm
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Speaker 4: starting to feel much much better for I Still sometimes
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Speaker 4: I still have them days where I know things just
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Speaker 4: ain't quite right, you know, but I know what to
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Speaker 4: do now. I'm not on that floor like praying for
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Speaker 4: death and just wishing, you know, like this be my
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Speaker 4: last breath.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely made some huge changes.
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Speaker 2: Well mentioned they're the One Man with a Chamber his
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Speaker 2: TikTok channel. Once again, that's One Man with a Chamber.
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Speaker 2: I highly encourage everybody to check that channel out, search
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Speaker 2: it up. The hyperbaric chamber is Will's way. It's the
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Speaker 2: way that he's pushing treatment of these CTE symptoms that
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Speaker 2: can be, like I said, so debilitating. So you know,
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Speaker 2: we continued on with the interview. Will talked about his
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Speaker 2: personal concussion recovery, his experience with that potential CTE treatment
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Speaker 2: even though he's pretty damn sure that he does have
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Speaker 2: it and has to live with it, and again we
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Speaker 2: discussed the symptom. So Will, he was so transparent about
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Speaker 2: his experience with suicide ideation, all the concussions he suffered,
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Speaker 2: and he made an interesting point about the way that
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Speaker 2: brain injuries are treated or lack thereof, differently, so differently
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Speaker 2: from other injuries, Like if you strain a hamstring, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's the same treatment as if you sprain your ankle
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Speaker 2: or or anything else, a sprain of attendon or a ligament.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's treated a certain way in physical therapy
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Speaker 2: and everything. Brain injuries don't really get the same love.
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Speaker 2: And here's what Will had to say exactly on.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, but my social media channel was going nuts
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Speaker 4: because of that, because you know, I just haven't set
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Speaker 4: up to help people, and so what I did I
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Speaker 4: made the video, and in that video, I was telling
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Speaker 4: people like.
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Speaker 1: You know, even though we see our athletes doing this awful.
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Speaker 4: Stuff, you know, they're hurting themselves, hurting other people. I
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Speaker 4: just said, man, this is not the population that I fear.
18:21
Speaker 4: I said, the population that I fear is our military
18:24
Speaker 4: because they're coming back with the same condition. And in
18:28
Speaker 4: the voices you start to hear, they will tell you
18:30
Speaker 4: like in your life, killing your life. But for these guys,
18:33
Speaker 4: they're the killers now, They're the best killers in the world.
18:35
Speaker 4: So if their brain is telling them to keep doing
18:37
Speaker 4: what they're doing, who's the enemy now is the people
18:41
Speaker 4: that's here among them, you know. And so once that
18:44
Speaker 4: brain switches off, man, that's something that we have to
18:47
Speaker 4: really deal with. But anyway, I put that video up
18:51
Speaker 4: on the day. It was the day of the shooting.
18:54
Speaker 4: The very next day I had court. So I'm talking
18:57
Speaker 4: to the judge about this because my lawyers and they
18:59
Speaker 4: really trying to sweep this thing up in the rug.
19:01
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no way, you.
19:02
Speaker 4: Guy's gonna help us, or you're going to tell the
19:05
Speaker 4: American people that you're not one or two because this
19:07
Speaker 4: is a public record now. And so I talked to
19:11
Speaker 4: the judge about it, and on the courthouse steps, I
19:13
Speaker 4: said the same thing, and I tell them like, I'm
19:15
Speaker 4: just really fearful of these military veterans coming back, because
19:20
Speaker 4: they're coming back is assassins to it.
19:23
Speaker 1: We're the victims now.
19:24
Speaker 4: And I said, we got to get ahead of this
19:26
Speaker 4: thing because there's a wave of That was my worst.
19:28
Speaker 4: There's a wave of military masch uness coming. And so
19:35
Speaker 4: that was that week. The very next week, a man
19:38
Speaker 4: went up to the bar in Anaconda and Montena and
19:41
Speaker 4: he shot four people in the bar and then he
19:43
Speaker 4: went out in the woods and he was hiding like
19:45
Speaker 4: it was like the old Rambo movie. He was hiding
19:47
Speaker 4: in the community in the woods for a whole week
19:49
Speaker 4: before they caught him, as they called him. There was
19:52
Speaker 4: another military, active military guy. He went on the all
19:55
Speaker 4: of us a army base, not but he went on
19:56
Speaker 4: one of the bases. They shot up the people he
19:58
Speaker 4: worked with. And then two weeks after that, which was
20:03
Speaker 4: probably about three weeks ago, another guy, another veteran, he
20:07
Speaker 4: went up to the Mormon church in Minnesota. He set
20:11
Speaker 4: part of the church on fire once the other side
20:14
Speaker 4: and started shooting. So when they stopped him, like there
20:17
Speaker 4: was still people missing, and they think they had Paris
20:20
Speaker 4: in the fire. And so like everything that I've seen
20:23
Speaker 4: with this thing, I know what this thing is. I
20:25
Speaker 4: know what their brains are thinking because mine was thinking
20:28
Speaker 4: the same thing. And if you give somebody them mads
20:33
Speaker 4: that they try to give you and your brain's not healthy,
20:37
Speaker 4: it's not gonna help you.
20:38
Speaker 1: It's gonna make things worse. Guess what it does.
20:40
Speaker 4: You know, it took me for one to die on
20:44
Speaker 4: from a less scale of ten ten, being like you
20:47
Speaker 4: really want to get out of here, My scale went
20:49
Speaker 4: up to like eighty. And they always tell you, okay,
20:53
Speaker 4: you take the manas you gotta take them along, so
20:55
Speaker 4: they start working.
20:55
Speaker 1: They got to build up in your system. Long as
20:58
Speaker 1: it took the building my system.
20:59
Speaker 4: The worship got and so yeah, so those manage are
21:04
Speaker 4: probably for healthy brains, but they're given them to people
21:07
Speaker 4: who been misdiagnosed, you know. And the be'st why I
21:11
Speaker 4: can explain that is like, okay, so you guys pull
21:14
Speaker 4: muscles before, right, Yes, that's what we get in too.
21:18
Speaker 4: Now when you pull the muscles, this is what they
21:20
Speaker 4: do to us. For us anyway, like I pull a hamstring,
21:24
Speaker 4: I'll make that pulls people pull hamstring.
21:25
Speaker 1: That's the first one to usually get So you.
21:28
Speaker 4: Pull a hamstring, so all the fluid rushes there and
21:30
Speaker 4: it swells up rights to protect the muscle, so that
21:35
Speaker 4: all the fluid goes there to protect us. All the
21:36
Speaker 4: blood and everything that just rushes that right. And so
21:39
Speaker 4: for the first seventy two hours they tell you only
21:41
Speaker 4: put ice on it.
21:42
Speaker 1: No heat is it'll make it keep bleeding. Put the
21:44
Speaker 1: ice that will stop the bleeding, you know.
21:46
Speaker 4: So then after seventy two hours and you alternate heat
21:49
Speaker 4: nice to start getting that blood flowing there.
21:52
Speaker 1: And then if you on.
21:53
Speaker 4: A sports team, you probably got asked to electric stimulation
21:57
Speaker 4: when they put on there and make the muscles jump.
21:59
Speaker 4: You might hih ice only they might do it with
22:01
Speaker 4: heat on it, you know they but you're gonna be
22:03
Speaker 4: doing something with that, and then they'll do ultrasound. Some
22:06
Speaker 4: people do acupuncture. So now you know you getting to
22:09
Speaker 4: the end of it when you're doing all that stuff.
22:11
Speaker 4: But now you've still got that swelling in there. Now
22:13
Speaker 4: it's only one way to get it out. So within
22:16
Speaker 4: the Olympic training center, where do you know, if they
22:18
Speaker 4: come out with the white rag or the white towel,
22:20
Speaker 4: You're like, oh man, not today, because that's what that means.
22:24
Speaker 4: You have to bite it. It'll give to you. Putting
22:25
Speaker 4: your off the bite, they gonna pull out their elbow
22:28
Speaker 4: and they gonna dig into that muscle and break up
22:31
Speaker 4: the scar tissue.
22:31
Speaker 1: They gotta get the scar.
22:32
Speaker 4: Tissue out of there, otherwise it's gonna held up shorter
22:35
Speaker 4: and you're gonna keep pulling that muscle over and over. Right, Okay,
22:39
Speaker 4: so now we know what they do for every type
22:41
Speaker 4: of injury. It's always the same type of treatment plan.
22:43
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. My point is this.
22:47
Speaker 4: I raised for nine years and I had between one
22:49
Speaker 4: and six rides a day for three four sometime five
22:53
Speaker 4: days a week.
22:55
Speaker 1: I did that for four to five months of the
22:57
Speaker 1: year for nine years.
22:58
Speaker 4: So I got hundreds of hundreds of Bob said, right,
23:00
Speaker 4: And what I know now is I was probably getting
23:03
Speaker 4: micro concussions if we didn't if we gotta crash, like
23:06
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a nasty concussion probably. But when we
23:10
Speaker 4: don't crash, if we're just getting beat up in the slab,
23:12
Speaker 4: we're still getting the same damage done along with the
23:15
Speaker 4: G force exposure, like we get extreme g forces.
23:18
Speaker 1: And so.
23:20
Speaker 4: One thing I learned in America, like if you have
23:23
Speaker 4: a concussion, they don't treat it. So if you if
23:27
Speaker 4: you get hit in the head and get the fluid
23:28
Speaker 4: automatically rushed there like every other injury you have, how
23:31
Speaker 4: do you get that fluid out of there?
23:34
Speaker 1: They don't do anything.
23:36
Speaker 4: They tell you just to go sit down and don't
23:39
Speaker 4: go to sleep for the first three hours or something
23:40
Speaker 4: like that.
23:42
Speaker 1: That's the only treatment they do for brains. So for me, man,
23:46
Speaker 1: I was.
23:46
Speaker 4: In this chamber for one hour and it took I
23:50
Speaker 4: had like probably I was cloudy from at least two
23:53
Speaker 4: thousand and ten to twenty twenty two when I first
23:58
Speaker 4: tried it. Cloudy every day, just cloud me, just confuse
24:02
Speaker 4: as hell. And I went in think for one hour
24:05
Speaker 4: and I come out of that thing and I'm looking
24:07
Speaker 4: around like everything was so vivid, the colors was like
24:11
Speaker 4: everything was in three D, and I'm like, what the hell.
24:14
Speaker 1: So the salesman comes over to me. He's like, hey,
24:18
Speaker 1: what's wrong.
24:19
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know, because he said to me
24:21
Speaker 4: taking my glasses on and off, because I'm just like,
24:23
Speaker 4: I don't even need these things. I was like, I
24:25
Speaker 4: don't think I need my glasses. He's like, oh, you're
24:28
Speaker 4: one of those and I'm thinking, Okay, he could come
24:31
Speaker 4: to that salesman. He's fee to try to sell me
24:33
Speaker 4: this twenty five thousand dollars machine, which I just bought
24:36
Speaker 4: a house a year before, so I don't have that
24:38
Speaker 4: money laying around, so I'm really guarded, right, I'm really
24:42
Speaker 4: guarded because I'm waiting on him to just tell me
24:44
Speaker 4: that price tag.
24:45
Speaker 1: You know what the truth was, he was right.
24:47
Speaker 4: Some people get like immediate relief, but some people need
24:51
Speaker 4: like two sessions a day for thirty days to get
24:53
Speaker 4: the same type of relief. And this thing just woke
24:56
Speaker 4: me up. I was cleared for six days, and then
24:59
Speaker 4: I went back at the end of that next week.
25:01
Speaker 4: They let me do it again for free, and man,
25:03
Speaker 4: I was cooking for nine days. So then I had
25:06
Speaker 4: to buy one. So I had to find that money.
25:08
Speaker 4: My dad wounded up stepping up. But yeah, man, but
25:12
Speaker 4: without that machine, man, I was just like, there's no
25:15
Speaker 4: sense of me being here on this planet no more
25:17
Speaker 4: because the quality of life.
25:19
Speaker 1: Is not there. Yeah, you know, you just yeah, it's awful.
25:25
Speaker 4: But the big thing is, as I'm getting healthier and
25:27
Speaker 4: I'm healing, I started to run into different pockets of
25:31
Speaker 4: people with the same type of symptoms.
25:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I.
25:34
Speaker 4: Started asking questions, like some of them didn't even know
25:36
Speaker 4: what was wrong with them. They were still trying to
25:38
Speaker 4: figure it out. It was going to see doctors, And
25:41
Speaker 4: now I know to ask about head injuries because if
25:45
Speaker 4: they line up with this, it's a head injury. It's
25:48
Speaker 4: not really mental health. It's not You're not depressed because
25:51
Speaker 4: you like it's a clinical depression. You depressed because you
25:56
Speaker 4: can't talk anymore, you can't get up off the floor,
25:59
Speaker 4: you don't have any energy. You you me, I start
26:03
Speaker 4: against certain like what am I gonna do when I
26:05
Speaker 4: run out of money?
26:06
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna be living.
26:07
Speaker 4: On the streets, Like, like what's my next step? Like
26:10
Speaker 4: at what point do I just had to check myself
26:13
Speaker 4: out of here before I wound up being homeless and
26:16
Speaker 4: disheveled somewhere, you know. And I think that's a lot
26:19
Speaker 4: of stuff that gets a lot of the people. But
26:21
Speaker 4: it's all the same injuries, same symptoms. And I just
26:25
Speaker 4: think you guys pay attention, pay.
26:28
Speaker 2: Attention important distinction from will there. While CTE can cause
26:32
Speaker 2: mental health issues, CTE itself is not a mental health disorder.
26:36
Speaker 1: And he brought up the fact of he.
26:39
Speaker 2: Brought the concept of fluid, you know, factoring into how
26:43
Speaker 2: concussions can affect the brain. It's good time to reemphasize
26:48
Speaker 2: that concussions what happens during your concussion right. Concussions occur
26:52
Speaker 2: on a violent impact or rapid movement of the body
26:55
Speaker 2: shakes the brain inside the skull. While the brain is
26:58
Speaker 2: normally protected by a cushion of rebrospinal fluid or CSF,
27:03
Speaker 2: sudden acceleration or deceleration forces the brain to move faster
27:08
Speaker 2: than the fluid we're speaking of can adjust, causing the
27:12
Speaker 2: soft tissue to strike the inside of the skull. And
27:15
Speaker 2: he brought up the term micro concussions there. It's not
27:18
Speaker 2: just a crazy football hit or a crazy sled crash
27:22
Speaker 2: that can cause or can can contribute to CTE and
27:26
Speaker 2: CTE symptoms. It can happen, you know, very commonly, because
27:30
Speaker 2: you know, all it takes a little shake it at skull.
27:32
Speaker 2: Fluid can't adjust boom concussion. That's how it happens. So
27:37
Speaker 2: while there's symptoms of CTE like we're talking about are
27:39
Speaker 2: so troubling, it's an erratic behavior. Sometimes even abusive behavior
27:44
Speaker 2: can result. We've see all the football players get in
27:46
Speaker 2: trouble and they play such a dangerous sport. You know
27:49
Speaker 2: that can cater too dangerous behavior. Nicki Marie, who is
27:53
Speaker 2: my mental health advocate in arm. She made a great
27:56
Speaker 2: point to Will about the idea of forgiveness and how
27:58
Speaker 2: that's so important and something like CTE.
28:03
Speaker 3: I do want to circle back to the forgiveness. You
28:08
Speaker 3: mentioned that you are now forgiving yourself.
28:13
Speaker 1: What did that look? What did that look.
28:15
Speaker 5: Like for you?
28:16
Speaker 3: And how how were you able to put yourself in
28:18
Speaker 3: a position of forgiving yourself?
28:21
Speaker 4: Well, I couldn't do it until first of all, I
28:25
Speaker 4: got help and I started having more rational thoughts. You know,
28:29
Speaker 4: when you when we when you're in that mind state,
28:33
Speaker 4: your thoughts weren't really rational, like, for example, I'm cloudy,
28:38
Speaker 4: I'm confused, I'm drinking caffeine and removing.
28:40
Speaker 1: Like what.
28:43
Speaker 4: It don't make sense, you know, you can't see things straight.
28:47
Speaker 4: And so it took for me to get some help first.
28:49
Speaker 4: And then when I really realized instead of me, you know,
28:53
Speaker 4: I thought that God sent me here to save public life,
28:57
Speaker 4: and that's why I failed, because I didn't that wasn't
29:00
Speaker 4: the message. Probably came to save my life. So that
29:06
Speaker 4: took a minute to can't accept that and digest.
29:12
Speaker 1: That you heard?
29:13
Speaker 2: Well, at the end get emotional there he talked about
29:15
Speaker 2: his friend who had stage four CTE, which is the
29:19
Speaker 2: most severe and advanced form of the disease. It usually
29:24
Speaker 2: manifested individuals aged fifty to sixty, and it it pretty
29:29
Speaker 2: much serves towards you, You're going to have dementias. This
29:32
Speaker 2: is just it's going to really hit you and affect you.
29:36
Speaker 2: And like I said, symptoms closely related to other diseases.
29:40
Speaker 2: Stage four CTE closely resembles symptoms of advanced Alzheimer's disease
29:46
Speaker 2: and Parkinson's disease, along with or including severe cognitive declines.
29:52
Speaker 2: So while that being said, will had to forgive himself
29:55
Speaker 2: for his friend's death, even though can't really say it
29:58
Speaker 2: was his fault. On that topic, Will expanded, prompted by Nicki,
30:02
Speaker 2: on his legacy and what he wants to be remembered
30:05
Speaker 2: by and what he wants people to think when they
30:09
Speaker 2: hear the name William person after his time in terms
30:12
Speaker 2: of improving CTE diagnosis and treatment.
30:16
Speaker 3: A lot of times we go through things and don't
30:18
Speaker 3: realize that there's a blessing at the end of it.
30:21
Speaker 3: And I always say, sometimes you have to go through
30:24
Speaker 3: something to grow through something, and so I'm pretty sure
30:29
Speaker 3: forgiveness it definitely comes from a place of love, of vulnerability, and.
30:38
Speaker 1: Just know that.
30:40
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, you can see that
30:42
Speaker 3: you have done and you're continuing to do all that
30:46
Speaker 3: you're doing to help others. Sometimes we can't help someone,
30:50
Speaker 3: but we can help others, Like maybe that situation you
30:54
Speaker 3: couldn't help at that time, but you're definitely on the
30:57
Speaker 3: right track to helping other people. And I wanted to
31:00
Speaker 3: go into legacy. Just how do you define legacy and
31:05
Speaker 3: what steps are you taking right now to build that?
31:10
Speaker 3: You know you're continuing on to have these conversations.
31:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, how would you like?
31:15
Speaker 4: Well, right now I'm creating. Matter of fact, it's finally
31:19
Speaker 4: official once we can see that.
31:25
Speaker 2: American American Post Concussion Wellness Center, Inc.
31:32
Speaker 1: I have a one C three right now.
31:33
Speaker 4: I've been helping people find chambers around the country so
31:36
Speaker 4: they can get treatment, whether it's mine or someone else's,
31:40
Speaker 4: so they will really we call it therapy.
31:41
Speaker 1: If we say treatment, the government will start messing with us.
31:43
Speaker 1: Both therapy.
31:45
Speaker 4: So I'm already doing that I'm lining people up, showing
31:48
Speaker 4: them how to find these things to help them. I'm
31:50
Speaker 4: teaching these really because it's the loved ones how to
31:55
Speaker 4: identify in your partners. Because you know, when I finding
31:59
Speaker 4: out like I saw the last like the last eight suicides,
32:04
Speaker 4: all of the men were now split from the wives.
32:07
Speaker 4: And the only one I saw still living at home,
32:09
Speaker 4: he was living in the back bedroom, but he was
32:11
Speaker 4: still hole. And so these people isolating. Once they're isolate,
32:16
Speaker 4: you know that loved one is not there to pick
32:18
Speaker 4: you up because they don't understand. They just think you now,
32:21
Speaker 4: you don't change. You're now at a hole. What you
32:24
Speaker 4: want a hole your whole life, But now you are,
32:26
Speaker 4: and you're aggressively. You're smart enough, and you land on
32:30
Speaker 4: the couch on all day, or you land on the floor,
32:32
Speaker 4: or you land in the bedroom. Don't come out TV,
32:35
Speaker 4: not on radio, not on you know, it starts to look.
32:38
Speaker 4: And some of these ladies are leaving because they're fraid
32:40
Speaker 4: for their lives. And I understand that, and they should live.
32:43
Speaker 4: We should always make sure they get safe. But there
32:45
Speaker 4: needs to be somebody back to really to look at
32:48
Speaker 4: this guy, because more than likely if he came out
32:50
Speaker 4: of the NFL.
32:51
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he supported a lot of people.
32:54
Speaker 4: And when that money dry up, you know, and then
32:56
Speaker 4: you were butt head, you yelled at people.
32:58
Speaker 1: And it's smart enough you go find yourself alone real quick.
33:03
Speaker 1: You'll fight yourself loan real real quick.
33:05
Speaker 4: But my legacy really is now is it's helping people
33:09
Speaker 4: with that which we're doing, and the next part is
33:12
Speaker 4: opening up this facility so it'll be open to the public.
33:17
Speaker 1: But we're really focusing on our military and our athletes.
33:20
Speaker 4: But I won't turn anybody away and just focus on
33:24
Speaker 4: getting is done and getting it done for free, because
33:26
Speaker 4: a price is too expensive for most.
33:28
Speaker 1: If you need.
33:30
Speaker 4: Let's say, if you needed thirty days of treatment, it's
33:33
Speaker 4: gonna run you two hundred dollars an hour minimum for
33:37
Speaker 4: twice a day. So that's four hundred bucks a day
33:39
Speaker 4: times thirty days. It's gonna price most people out. They're
33:41
Speaker 4: not gonna be like, I'm not gonna do what I
33:43
Speaker 4: can't do and I can't afford this, right, So.
33:45
Speaker 1: I have a building already. I have about five o'
33:48
Speaker 1: one c three ready.
33:49
Speaker 4: We got some crowdfundings out there, so I'm really just
33:51
Speaker 4: running raise money so I can do the build out
33:54
Speaker 4: on the property and to get all the equipment that
33:57
Speaker 4: we need, and I'm just gonna start offering the therapy
34:01
Speaker 4: free of charge.
34:02
Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're going to do. Yeah.
34:05
Speaker 4: People, actually they've been trying to become partners, and I'm like,
34:08
Speaker 4: you know, we're not doing that because I'm not going
34:11
Speaker 4: to charge. They don't understand. I'm like, you can go.
34:14
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what I'm doing. You understand that technology.
34:16
Speaker 4: You can go open your own I said, but mine.
34:20
Speaker 1: Is gonna for free.
34:21
Speaker 4: If you're rolling with me, it's gonna be done for free.
34:24
Speaker 4: If I just step up, They're not to put my
34:26
Speaker 4: own money about my pay for my old five oh
34:28
Speaker 4: one C three. I'm probably gonna donate the building myself.
34:33
Speaker 4: And you know it's we're gonna We're gonna roll and
34:35
Speaker 4: we're gonna save lives and keep blessing people. That's what
34:38
Speaker 4: it's all about.
34:39
Speaker 2: Not often you hear about free health care in America.
34:42
Speaker 2: That's what Will is pushing again. He is the founder
34:44
Speaker 2: of the American Post Concussion Wellness Center, Incorporated, helping people
34:50
Speaker 2: with CTE treatment for free. It's a free ninety nine
34:54
Speaker 2: I so again, check that out. We will let you
34:57
Speaker 2: know where to find a will on social media in
34:59
Speaker 2: a moment. But he commented about how capitalism in America again,
35:04
Speaker 2: like I said, really combats effective health care in this country.
35:08
Speaker 2: Not to get all political, but I mean, let's be real,
35:11
Speaker 2: that's exactly what's happening. Given the fact that ct has
35:14
Speaker 2: many symptoms that can be mistook or mistaken for something else.
35:19
Speaker 2: Mix will about the biggest misconceptions about CTE. Here was
35:24
Speaker 2: the first part of his response on.
35:26
Speaker 4: A misconception is I think it's brewing around in everybody's
35:30
Speaker 4: brain right now. Everybody who's been bounced on the head
35:33
Speaker 4: more than more time, you know it's brewing in there.
35:36
Speaker 1: In My question is what did you do to remove it?
35:39
Speaker 4: Because what I've seen is like do you have the concussions,
35:42
Speaker 4: you let them pile up. We never treat that area
35:46
Speaker 4: at all unless your brain has opened up, like you
35:49
Speaker 4: open up the skull, and they got to go in
35:51
Speaker 4: there and do some stuff. But that's a whole other
35:53
Speaker 4: can of worms. And so this is really not mental health.
35:57
Speaker 4: Like I know, mental health is my background, trust me,
36:00
Speaker 4: But this is not mental health. It's a physical injury
36:04
Speaker 4: that never got treated. And I believe once you treat
36:07
Speaker 4: that injury, which is the brain, it's gonna do everything
36:12
Speaker 4: you're supposed to, push that fluid out the way and
36:14
Speaker 4: let that blood get word supposed to go.
36:17
Speaker 1: And so you shouldn't be embarrassed about it, because if
36:19
Speaker 1: you have it and.
36:20
Speaker 4: You're dealing with the symptoms, it doesn't make you a
36:23
Speaker 4: bad person'll make you a sick person.
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Speaker 1: It just means you had a brain injury.
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Speaker 4: What you already knew, you just never got to treat
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Speaker 4: it because nobody ever got there treating.
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Speaker 2: Like you said, biggest misconception, how common it is? Number one,
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Speaker 2: and number two, it's not mental health, as he reemphasized.
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Speaker 2: I asked Will after that to continue about some of
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Speaker 2: the biggest misconceptions. Interestingly enough, he brought up Kanye West,
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Speaker 2: whose mental health is always in question, and also he
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Speaker 2: circled back to the topic of micro concussions, like I learned.
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Speaker 4: From extreme behaviors, like the like I said, from depression, schizophreniasm, bipols,
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Speaker 4: and wisdoms got by the criminally and saying we had
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Speaker 4: them people over there, we had the people who had
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Speaker 4: been lobotomized, right, So I grew up seeing that stuff,
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Speaker 4: and so it's Kanye West. He had this documentary come out, right.
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Speaker 4: I told people for years, I said, this guy is
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Speaker 4: not bipolar. It might be schizophrenic, but he ain't bipolar.
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Speaker 4: And so I'm watching the video. I didn't even want
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Speaker 4: to go see the documentary because my girlfriend made me
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Speaker 4: do it.
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Speaker 1: So I went.
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Speaker 4: And so I'm looking at this guy and some things
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Speaker 4: stick out, like when I finally told the doctor's truth
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Speaker 4: and allowed them to give me the mads. Mads made
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Speaker 4: me it took my depression from ten to fifty. We
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Speaker 4: kind of talked about that.
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Speaker 1: He mentioned the same thing and then he was talking
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Speaker 1: about his case and I.
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Speaker 4: Did the MAD. I was like, wait a minute. He
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Speaker 4: got diagnosed bipolar at forty. Nobody gets that diagnosed in
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Speaker 4: at forty. You get it at eighteen to twenty May
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Speaker 4: twenty one. You might hit twenty five, but by that
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Speaker 4: time you're gonna be doing stuff that sobaz are that go.
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Speaker 4: You ain't making it to forty to get that diagnosis.
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Speaker 4: Nobody gets that diagnosis at forty. And that just sat
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Speaker 4: on me. I was like, his his behaviors, he's going crazy,
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Speaker 4: then he's calm. I'm like he lined up with the
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Speaker 4: CTE people with post concussion stuff.
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Speaker 1: I said, but he wasn't no athlete. He was a rapper. Like,
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Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense to me.
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Speaker 4: Then I remember the song he had out called Spitking
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Speaker 4: through the Wire or something like that, talking about Yeah,
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Speaker 4: he said he broke his job was in the back
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Speaker 4: of his mouth, which means he had a concussion. He
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Speaker 4: had a concussion. There ain't no doubt about it. So
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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, misdiagnosis.
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Speaker 1: He's not bypot. I don't believe.
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Speaker 4: So I came home and I on my charge in
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Speaker 4: my work. I got white boys in my room. I
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Speaker 4: applied my first concussion, which is at my World Cup racing.
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Speaker 4: It was in Sammy, Switzerland, was like an O two
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Speaker 4: and I applied with my symptoms kicked in for ten years,
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Speaker 4: and then I did the math on his when he
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Speaker 4: had this car accident, when he got diagnosed, and I
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Speaker 4: subtracted it. And when I did the math, I said, Okay,
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Speaker 4: if I'm right, he had to have that car accident
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Speaker 4: around two thousand and two with the latest and my
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Speaker 4: girlfriend looked it up two thousand and two, I was like, exactly, misdiagnosis.
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Speaker 4: So a lot of this stuff is misdiagnosed. We've all
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Speaker 4: been you know, I don't care what kind of kids
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Speaker 4: you were. You know, fell off the monkey bars, you know,
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Speaker 4: you're fighting in the school yards and took some licks
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Speaker 4: to the head. We've all been through it because it's
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Speaker 4: just the nature writes some passage as a kid, and
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Speaker 4: so if you have thinking about it, you get old.
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Speaker 4: The car accidents, man get in a car accident, you're
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Speaker 4: playing sports. We're all dealing with the same stuff. Look
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Speaker 4: at the symptoms. That symptoms are all the same. I'm
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Speaker 4: not created a graph last weekend. The symptoms are all
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Speaker 4: the same. We got it the same way. It's the
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Speaker 4: same treatment, the same treatment that woke me up. It
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Speaker 4: was gonna wake them up. And I've been whe it
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Speaker 4: happened all the time down So I'm deserve to spread
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Speaker 4: the word and offer the service free and let people
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Speaker 4: move on with their life.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff. How unusual. Kanye's bipolar diagnosis was at the
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Speaker 2: age of forty. And if you're gonna speculate on somebody's
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Speaker 2: mental health like you better do the research like Will
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Speaker 2: did and have the background and the knowledge to back
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Speaker 2: it up. It's saying Kanye's symptoms of erratic behavior calm
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Speaker 2: one time and mannic another time. It's more closely related
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Speaker 2: to CTE symptoms, but of course we're not going to
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Speaker 2: know that until Kanye's time is up and done. Lastly,
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Speaker 2: let's figure out and let you find out how to
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Speaker 2: reach Will person.
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Speaker 4: Said my website, I had to redo it that I
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Speaker 4: changed the name from person tt Well, a senative American,
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Speaker 4: So the website's being redone. But I do have a
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Speaker 4: crowdfundy out of guys, please find my crowdfund. There's one
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Speaker 4: man with the chamber. It's easy to find me. Yes,
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Speaker 4: I'll send you guys the links and stuff. But also man.
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Speaker 4: In twenty to twenty twenty two, the veteran suicide rate
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Speaker 4: was around sixty four hundred veterans suicides per.
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Speaker 1: Year per year, And I know what that is.
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Speaker 4: I'm watching my teammates go through and I was going
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Speaker 4: through it, and that little thing back here one hour
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Speaker 4: changed my life. I'm so how many people could we
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Speaker 4: have saved of those twenty thousand in three years?
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Speaker 5: And you said instantly too, you had relief, and you
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Speaker 5: know a change, You noticed a change instantly. That's the
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Speaker 5: incredible thing.
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Speaker 4: They still talk about me. They called me the Peter
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Speaker 4: Parker syndrome because they saw me taking my glass on
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Speaker 4: and off. And I guess when Spider Man got bit
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Speaker 4: by the Spider he was he didn't need his glasses anymore.
41:38
Speaker 4: So they when they actually all promoting their products, they
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Speaker 4: called me the Peter Parker guy. Yeah, this stuff is
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Speaker 4: Joe Naman started it. I gave him all the credit.
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Speaker 4: Like people called me crying and just thanking me, and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, that credit goes to Joe. You find him, yes,
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Speaker 4: thank him?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Joe naming for Nikki the Jets fan knows
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Speaker 5: him very well.
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Speaker 2: Put me out there, super Bowl champion and CSE treatment
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Speaker 2: spark plug.
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Speaker 1: That's what we'll know, Joe naming fast.
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Speaker 2: Incredible. Will Person work with Joe Naman, work with Emma Smith,
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Speaker 2: work with countless athletes, and I hope that continues form.
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Speaker 2: You can find William Person on LinkedIn and TikTok if
42:17
Speaker 2: you want more information on his foundation, his cause, his mission,
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Speaker 2: and his CTE related story for us. That's it on
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