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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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Speaker 1: Uh, Yankees win, Yankees win, Yankees win. We'll describe that
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Speaker 1: victory as they swept the Red Sox, annihilated them, two games.
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Speaker 1: So go back to Boston, cry in your Boston baked beans,
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Speaker 1: your Boston cream pie, everything Boston, I hate you. In fact,
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Speaker 1: in 86, when the Mets played the Red Sox in
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Speaker 1: the World Series, Larry, I hate both teams equally. When
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Speaker 1: people ask me, who are you rooting for? I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm like Switzerland. I hate them both equally, the Mets
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Speaker 1: and the Red Sox. So I couldn't be happier this morning.
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Speaker 1: And I was happy last night. But then the number
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Speaker 1: one Yankee fan in our family came home. It's not me.
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Speaker 1: It's Nancy. Nancy actually spent a summer driving a Mr.
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Speaker 1: Softee truck out at Lankron Concomole in Suffolk County and
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Speaker 1: then Wine Dench. Wine Dench is the equivalent of being
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Speaker 1: in the South Bronx. It's like damned if you do,
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Speaker 1: damned if you don't. You're going to get robbed going
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Speaker 1: out there, but that was the only route available. So
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Speaker 1: she could go to every Yankee home game. Wow. That's
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Speaker 1: how fanatical she was and still is. So she comes
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Speaker 1: in from a business meeting. They had a goodbye business dinner.
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Speaker 1: They had been up in Albany doing business and some
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Speaker 1: of their colleagues were heading off. So they were wrapping
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Speaker 1: it up at a dinner last night and she came
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Speaker 1: in and she was completely traumatized. So immediately I'm thinking,
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Speaker 1: oh my God, she got mugged. What happened? And it
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Speaker 1: takes her about five minutes to compose herself. And then
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Speaker 1: she dictates to me what she had went through earlier
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Speaker 1: in the evening at this dinner. Nice restaurant. Everybody's getting along.
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Speaker 1: She happens to look out the window and on the street,
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Speaker 1: main thoroughfare, she sees a woman slapping a young boy.
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Speaker 1: She estimates a young boy about six or seven years old. Slapping,
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Speaker 1: slapping the young boy. Young boy apparently is like wanting
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Speaker 1: to grab on. to the woman. So she's assuming it's
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Speaker 1: his mother. And so she goes, let me go outside.
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go outside and make a call.
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Speaker 1: She's not making a call. She's faking the call on
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Speaker 1: the cell phone and she watches. And then she sees
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Speaker 1: this woman, African-American woman, wind up and, I mean, punch
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Speaker 1: the boy. I mean, seriously hard. So she closes the
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Speaker 1: cell phone and she decides, I got to do an intervention.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is walking by as if nothing's going on. You know,
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Speaker 1: they've got window shades on their eyes, cotton balls in
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Speaker 1: their ears, a zipper on their mouth, typical of New
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Speaker 1: York City of late. And she goes up to the
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Speaker 1: woman and goes, why did you just hit this young boy?
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Speaker 1: That's my son. That's my son. You mind your own business,
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Speaker 1: you effing white bitch. And then she goes on and on.
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Speaker 1: And Nancy, again, tries to do an intervention, tries to
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Speaker 1: calm the situation. She sees the young boy is completely traumatized.
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Speaker 1: Young boy is crying. He's nervous. He's shaking. She's trying
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Speaker 1: to calm down the situation. This woman would not be
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Speaker 1: calmed down. She was emotionally disturbed. And Nancy has been
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Speaker 1: with me when I do interventions with emotionally disturbed persons.
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Speaker 1: So she was clear on that. And she realized there
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Speaker 1: was nothing she could do. Nobody called 911. Nobody did anything.
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Speaker 1: They just kept moving, moving. So she goes back inside.
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Speaker 1: This is the Naked City, you know, in 2026 where
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Speaker 1: this goes on on a regular basis. Men and women
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Speaker 1: just acting out in the streets of New York City.
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Speaker 1: And people were oblivious to it. So she's sitting down
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Speaker 1: with her colleagues. And then all of a sudden, this
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Speaker 1: woman comes charging in, grabbing her son, continuing to berate Nancy,
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Speaker 1: putting a finger in your face. Imagine every invective, racially
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Speaker 1: charged invective you can imagine. Everybody in the restaurant is stunned.
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Speaker 1: She will not stop this woman. Continuous. And she's holding
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Speaker 1: her son and grabbing him along. And she's saying, she's
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Speaker 1: saying to the young boy, you tell him I'm a
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Speaker 1: good mother. You tell him I'm a good mother. I'm
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Speaker 1: a great mother. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. And she's yelling
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Speaker 1: and yelling. And Nancy's going, oh, man, what am I
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Speaker 1: going to do if she attacks me? I'm going to
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Speaker 1: have to defend myself. She's clearly emotionally disturbed. The other
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Speaker 1: patrons are shocked. You imagine you're in a restaurant. They're shocked.
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Speaker 1: It just so happens James was with her was filming this.
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Speaker 1: And I hope to be able to post it. But
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Speaker 1: eventually what happens is the management and the waiters and waitresses,
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Speaker 1: they just start pushing her out the door. They call
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Speaker 1: the cops. Cops didn't come.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask how long it took before anybody intervened
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Speaker 2: at all, including the people that worked there?
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Speaker 1: My wife estimates anywhere from eight to ten minutes.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: Screaming at the top of her lungs. And again, people
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Speaker 1: in New York City are used to this. You know,
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Speaker 1: people just wailing away, screaming, hollering, yelling for, you know,
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Speaker 1: endless time. So she eventually is pushed outside. But before
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Speaker 1: she goes outside as she's dragging her son, the son
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Speaker 1: looks at James and says, please help me, help me,
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Speaker 1: help me. That's what traumatized my wife. Not the fact
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Speaker 1: that she was being verbally assaulted and physically threatened and,
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Speaker 1: you know, it was racially charged in words that were
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Speaker 1: being used. But the fact that the little boy was
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Speaker 1: looking at them like, please help me, help me. And
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Speaker 1: my wife said to me, you know, I'm normally not
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Speaker 1: in favor of people separating children from their parents, especially
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Speaker 1: the mother, and sending them to foster care. That can
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Speaker 1: be a nightmare. But in this situation, this boy is
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Speaker 1: going to be traumatized for life. God only knows if
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Speaker 1: he survives. What is going to happen in his mindset? Because,
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Speaker 1: you know, those who are abused end up tending to
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Speaker 1: be abusers.
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Speaker 3: Or be violent.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And so you think of a little boy like that,
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Speaker 2: and you try to find... in your heart how possibly
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Speaker 2: someone could commit the most vile crimes that are committed
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Speaker 2: in New York City and across the country.
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Speaker 3: There's the reason. That's the reason.
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Speaker 1: It's upbringing. The police have been told, back off. You know,
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Speaker 1: we want mental health people with you. This goes back
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Speaker 1: to de Blasio, Adams, and now with Zorhan Mandar. No,
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Speaker 1: we need mentally health trained people. So the cops don't
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Speaker 1: even bother responding anymore because they know what the call is.
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Speaker 1: It's an EDP call. They're very specific. When a 911
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Speaker 1: call comes in, you know, the operator who take the
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Speaker 1: 911 call says, is this person appearing to be emotionally disturbed?
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Speaker 1: And so you actually hear on some of the tapes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: EDP reported at such and such. And the cops are like,
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Speaker 1: what are we going to do?
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Speaker 2: Well, what's supposed to happen when an EDP is called in?
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Speaker 2: Does no one show up? No, the cops normally would have.
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Speaker 1: But increasingly more and more, they get chastised when they do.
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Speaker 1: And so they just decide, you know, they tell us
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Speaker 1: we're not qualified to deal with this. They tell us
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Speaker 1: they want mental health trained individuals to deal with it.
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Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do when we get there?
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Speaker 1: We're told, leave the person alone. Don't take them into custody.
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Speaker 1: Don't even take them for a psychiatric observation at Bellevue
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Speaker 1: in which they get cut loose in 24 hours. It's insane. Look,
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Speaker 1: even Natalie today, although it may not have been an
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Speaker 1: emotionally disturbed person, you were coming to work. And some
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Speaker 1: guy was screaming and yelling. How far away did you
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Speaker 1: hear it? Two blocks.
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Speaker 4: I walked by a guy screaming at a coffee cart guy.
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Speaker 4: And he was actually in a Yankee jersey. And I'm
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Speaker 4: thinking maybe he's a holdover from the game, drunk all night.
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Speaker 4: And he was yelling so loud and, you know, in
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Speaker 4: his face, pointing and pointing. And there were people around
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Speaker 4: just walking by. Some didn't even, like, try to avoid it.
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Speaker 4: I went around them so I didn't have to go
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Speaker 4: by them. And, you know, Some guy was there texting.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, how can nobody?
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Speaker 1: This is insane. This is what the city has become.
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Speaker 1: We're almost like immune to this. And I can only
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Speaker 1: tell you because I deal with EDPs all day long.
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Speaker 1: Like this morning, coming to work on the subway. So
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Speaker 1: there were two of them mumbling to themselves. One of
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Speaker 1: them hitting his head on the side panel of the subway.
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Speaker 1: And I went up to him and I cautioned him.
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Speaker 1: I said, hey, guy, you're hurting yourself. They don't belong
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Speaker 1: in the streets and the subways. They need to be
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Speaker 1: given credit.
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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree
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Speaker 3: with you.
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Speaker 2: And I wish they could just take these people and
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Speaker 2: get them help. And I think would all be safer.
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Speaker 2: So I agree with you. But we keep saying that,
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Speaker 2: keep saying that, keep saying that, keep saying that. But
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Speaker 2: when you have someone assaulting another human being, and I
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Speaker 2: don't care if it's her child. I can see a slap.
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Speaker 2: I can see a spank. I don't approve of that.
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Speaker 2: But I can at least understand that. When you are
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Speaker 2: beating your child, that's a crime. That's a crime. And
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Speaker 2: that should be responded to. So when a phone call
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Speaker 2: goes out and says there's someone on the street beating
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Speaker 2: a child, doesn't matter if it's their child at that point.
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Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter. That's child abuse. So that's why
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Speaker 2: the story you tell is so upsetting. That your wife
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Speaker 2: was the only one that intervened. And that nobody intervened.
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Speaker 2: And what is really ugly.
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Speaker 2: Is the fact that that continued in a restaurant, and nobody,
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Speaker 2: including the restaurant ownership, intervened for eight to ten minutes?
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Speaker 2: Eight to ten minutes? No, there's something really, really wrong
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Speaker 2: in this city if that can continue to happen.
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Speaker 3: And I understand why people are moving out. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's not just the taxes. It's this.
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Speaker 1: Well, for instance, when I was lecturing at the University
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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania a few weeks ago, I and Nancy were
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Speaker 1: staying downtown Philadelphia, right near Center City, right near City Hall,
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Speaker 1: South Broad Street. a lot of nice hotels there, emotionally
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Speaker 1: disturbed people outside harassing their clients. I mean, you could
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Speaker 1: tell they were emotionally disturbed. They weren't just homeless. Nothing
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Speaker 1: being done. This is happening all over the country time
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Speaker 1: and time again. So we have empty spaces in mental
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Speaker 1: health care facilities. Empty. I know that for a fact
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Speaker 1: in New York. And yet on October 13th, when we
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Speaker 1: get the one and only debate, there should be at
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Speaker 1: least two or more. I doubt seriously if the subject
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Speaker 1: of mentally impaired people will be brought up to either
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Speaker 1: the governor Hochul or the challenger Blakeman. in the course of,
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Speaker 1: I think it's a one-hour debate. That's it. This is
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Speaker 1: a serious issue in our state.
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Speaker 2: It is. And just like all of those people walked
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Speaker 2: by and ignored what was happening on the streets, and
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Speaker 2: just like all of us walk by people talking to
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Speaker 2: themselves and possibly violent and threatening people every day, that
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Speaker 2: we walk by saying, well, thank God they're not threatening me.
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Speaker 2: We're the problems. That's the problem. That's the problem. And
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Speaker 2: It is exacerbated by the fact that if you were
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Speaker 2: to do anything, it would be your fault. So I
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Speaker 2: understand the reaction, but all of that has to change.
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Speaker 2: And we had a guy that ran for mayor that
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Speaker 2: said he was going to hire all these mental health professionals.
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Speaker 3: That didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: That didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: If you're making a phone call when somebody is mentally
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Speaker 2: disturbed and nobody comes, where are the thousands?
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Speaker 3: You know, you're right.
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Speaker 2: It's a problem. that people finally just move away. That's
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Speaker 2: the only way you can deal with it, is just
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Speaker 2: to get away.
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Speaker 1: Side issue here, Larry. Our own Natalie Magliore spotted a
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Speaker 1: guy robbing mail this morning out of the blue mailbox.
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Speaker 1: At what time? 4.57 in the morning when there are
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Speaker 1: no cops around. You see, it's systemic and nobody's doing
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Speaker 1: anything about it. The conversation continues.
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Speaker 5: Curtis Lewa and Larry Mendte.
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Speaker 6: 710WOR.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: We have two stories back-to-back, belly-to-belly that could involve terrorism,
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Speaker 1: potentially on behalf of Iran. The biggest being the Israeli flight.
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Speaker 1: It was packed with Israelis who were coming back from Dubai.
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Speaker 1: It's on a airline that is a budget airline that
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Speaker 1: started right after the Abraham Accords. and Israel developed a
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Speaker 1: relationship with the UAE. So it flies from Dubai to
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Speaker 1: Tel Aviv. The pilot was a citizen of India originally
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Speaker 1: who got citizenship in the UAE. We're not sure who
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Speaker 1: the co-pilot is yet. It's thought he was from Oman,
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Speaker 1: maybe a naturalized citizen in the UAE, but apparently when
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Speaker 1: they were in the cockpit, the co-pilot took out a
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Speaker 1: knife and started to attack the pilot and stabbed him
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Speaker 1: over and over. Luckily, the pilot was able to open
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Speaker 1: up the cockpit. All of a sudden, that jet started
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Speaker 1: descending into the sands of Saudi Arabia, because that's the
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Speaker 1: country you fly over when you leave the UAE and
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Speaker 1: you go to Tel Aviv and Israel. And luckily, there
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Speaker 1: were two pilots who who were in the front seats,
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Speaker 1: who were able to jump to the rescue and straighten
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Speaker 1: out the flight. But it had dropped 17,000 feet and
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Speaker 1: other of the passengers jumped in to wrestle down the
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Speaker 1: guy who has been taken into custody in Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 1: and to come to the aid of the Indian pilot
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Speaker 1: who was stabbed repeatedly. So it was a great job
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Speaker 1: on behalf of everybody on the flight. They landed in
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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia would not allow Israel to send
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Speaker 1: any jets to pick them up. So the same airline
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Speaker 1: that had transported them brought a different jet in, and
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Speaker 1: they brought them back to Israel where they were given
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Speaker 1: a heroic welcome by family, friends, and others who were
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Speaker 1: so happy that they were safe and secure. The Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: Bibi Netanyahu, met a plumber who actually was credited with
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Speaker 1: doing most of the work to disable the crazed co-pilot
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Speaker 1: who continued to try to stab and injure anybody who
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Speaker 1: would come anywhere near him after he did some really
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Speaker 1: serious damage to the pilot. This is really a miraculous situation.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister of Israel, Bibi Netanyahu, suggested it might
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Speaker 1: be Iranian terrorism, but we don't know because the Co-pilot
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Speaker 1: is in a hospital in Saudi Arabia. Obviously, the pilot
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Speaker 1: himself is in a hospital and the Saudi Arabians are
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Speaker 1: not talking now. So we hope by the day's end
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Speaker 1: to get more information on this. But the suggestion might
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Speaker 1: be that it was a hijacking. with an attempt to
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Speaker 1: destroy everybody on that airline on their way to Israel
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Speaker 1: since most were Israelis.
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Speaker 2: And they don't know where he was going to take
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Speaker 2: the plane. There are some that think he was going
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Speaker 2: to search out a building so he could have more
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Speaker 2: casualties in it, but nobody knows for sure. I do
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Speaker 2: want to take a moment before just going through all
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Speaker 2: the facts of that story to talk about the incredible heroism.
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Speaker 2: First of all, from that pilot. That pilot was stabbed
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Speaker 2: several times. They don't know if he's going to survive
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Speaker 2: at this point. That's how badly he was injured. But
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Speaker 2: he had the wherewithal to open the cockpit door. And
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Speaker 2: if he didn't open that cockpit door, everybody on that
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Speaker 2: flight would be dead because there was no other way
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Speaker 2: to get in there. That is security after 9-11. That's
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Speaker 2: one of the security things that they do all around
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Speaker 2: the world right now. You can't get in unless the
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Speaker 2: pilots let you in. So what a hero he was.
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Speaker 2: And he laid himself down so that the person, the terrorist,
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Speaker 2: couldn't close the door.
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Speaker 1: That is an.
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Speaker 2: Amazing hero in my book. So I hope he survives
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Speaker 2: so that he can get all the accolades he deserves.
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Speaker 2: Then the first guy that ran in, the pilot, who
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Speaker 2: put the terrorist in a chokehold.
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Speaker 1: Immediately.
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Speaker 2: And they asked him about his training, and he said, oh,
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Speaker 2: I saw it in a movie one time. You know,
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Speaker 2: he's actually a funny guy and a nice guy. And
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Speaker 2: he went in. And then the others that ran in
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Speaker 2: after him to secure the plane and to straighten out
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Speaker 2: the plane. This is an absolute miracle that happened. And
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Speaker 2: I only think about, right away, my mind goes to
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Speaker 2: United Flight 93 and how I wish they had the
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Speaker 2: same law. And I wish they had the same ability
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Speaker 2: to level off that plane. And because, man, what a
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Speaker 2: miracle that would be. But it's the same type of thing.
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Speaker 2: Terror is taking over a flight. The passengers go to
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Speaker 2: fight back. In this case, they had a pilot helping
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Speaker 2: them to get into the cockpit. And they were able
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Speaker 2: to do, with pure luck, they were able to do,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of heroism, what they couldn't do on
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Speaker 2: United Flight 93.
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Speaker 1: Imagine you're on a flight. You've been on many. I've
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Speaker 1: been on many. Natalie, you've been on many. And the
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Speaker 1: flight drops 17,000 feet straight down. So the overhead containers
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Speaker 1: open up, luggage starts flying in all different directions. People
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Speaker 1: are flying in different directions, yelling, screaming, total chaos. And
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Speaker 1: a total of six individuals, six guys kept their wits
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Speaker 1: about them and rushed into that cockpit to assist in
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Speaker 1: restraining that co-pilot who was just like stabbing anybody within
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Speaker 1: proximity after taking out the pilot himself. Just amazing resolve
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Speaker 1: amongst everybody to get that flight safely into Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 1: so that it could land and then eventually back to
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Speaker 1: Tel Aviv.
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Speaker 2: I'll just keep going back to that pilot, though, because
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Speaker 2: because none of that what you just described, none of
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Speaker 2: that happens without that pilot. And he was dying. He
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Speaker 2: might die still. I mean, that courage and the bravery
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Speaker 2: and to have his wits about him while he's being stabbed.
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Speaker 2: I just can't. I hope he's OK. And I hope
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Speaker 2: he gets hailed as a national hero around the world
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Speaker 2: and he gets a visit to the White House.
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Speaker 1: And I hope the Saudis open up since they have
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Speaker 1: him at a hospital. Hopefully, as you mentioned, the pilot recovers.
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Speaker 1: They have the co-pilot. who was stabbing everybody in sight,
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Speaker 1: they have him in custody. They would not allow Israel
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Speaker 1: to fly planes in to bring the rest of the
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Speaker 1: passengers back.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's been a longstanding rule.
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Speaker 2: I know. And I listened to the people from the
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Speaker 2: Mossad that were talking about it, and they had to—
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Speaker 2: They had to hear who the pilot was going to be,
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Speaker 2: the new pilots were going to be. They had to
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Speaker 2: check them out. Remember, there was a delay? That was
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Speaker 2: the delay. The delay was Mossad checking out that these
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Speaker 2: pilots are okay.
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Speaker 1: But you say how ridiculous. They're flying over Saudi space anyway.
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Speaker 1: These flights, they go back and forth between Tel Aviv
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Speaker 1: and Dubai.
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Speaker 2: But now— One last thing, because I don't want to
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Speaker 2: blast them too much, the Saudis, because all of the
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Speaker 2: passengers said how great they were. They were wonderful to
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Speaker 2: the people on there. They just— They just had a
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Speaker 2: law that they weren't allowed to either, you know, and
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Speaker 2: they were allowed to land there, but they know Israeli
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Speaker 2: planes can come or leave from that airport.
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Speaker 1: So let's do the pivot and shift to England. Remember
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Speaker 1: the RAF base in Gloucestershire in which a farmer calls
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Speaker 1: up the local police at about 1.30 in the morning.
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Speaker 1: He's right nearby and he goes, hey man, there are
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Speaker 1: five suspicious guys in these SUVs. It doesn't look right.
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Speaker 1: You better come on over. The authorities respond and arrest
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Speaker 1: the five guys. The five guys are taken by New
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Speaker 1: Scotland Yard, and they're processed and then released on bail. Now,
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Speaker 1: the UK prime minister just yesterday, Andy Burnham, weighed in
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Speaker 1: and he said, I think Iran is involved. But you
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Speaker 1: scratch your head and you say, why were they released
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Speaker 1: on bail? And then you find out that an issue
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Speaker 1: called by the farmer at 1.30 in the morning, and
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Speaker 1: he needs to be praised over and over again for
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Speaker 1: seeing something and saying something. But Larry. It was an
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Speaker 1: original call at 1245 a.m. to the authorities from one
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Speaker 1: of the five in the group. So was he a
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Speaker 1: covert operator in the group of five on behalf of
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Speaker 1: the Brits, maybe an undercover, quote, terrorist? When are the
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Speaker 1: Brits going to reveal why this person, one of the five,
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Speaker 1: would call them at 1245 in the morning, the security?
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Speaker 1: What was the purpose of that call? And you're alleging
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Speaker 1: that Iran is involved. I don't doubt that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is what they do. But why did one of
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Speaker 1: these five call the police first? And why is it
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Speaker 1: you release them on bail? You don't have to do that.
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Speaker 1: You know how restrictive the Brits are. When it was
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Speaker 1: thought you were an IRA operative, man, they had dip
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Speaker 1: lock courts. They'd lock you up. It'd be a month
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Speaker 1: of Sundays before you would see a judge who could
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Speaker 1: determine whether you should be detained or released, whether on
21:31
Speaker 1: your own recognizance with bail. So they know how to
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Speaker 1: do a lockdown on suspected terrorists when they want to.
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Speaker 1: This one is a little fishy. Yeah, except for the.
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Speaker 2: Fact that, and I've heard this theory, and it does
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Speaker 2: make a lot of sense, they have great intelligence in
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Speaker 2: Great Britain, and it could be that they want to
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Speaker 2: see what they're going to do next, who they're going
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Speaker 2: to contact, where they're going to try to go, because
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Speaker 2: that will tell them a lot. So it's very possible
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Speaker 2: that they let them out just to get more intel
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Speaker 2: and more information. I'm sure these five, they're not going
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Speaker 2: anywhere without being tracked and traced. And so if they
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Speaker 2: tried to leave the country, trust me, they'd be arrested
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Speaker 2: right away.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting theory.
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Speaker 2: I can't prove that, but that's what has been said
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Speaker 2: by some intelligence agents on TV and said, you know,
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Speaker 2: this is standard sometimes. You let them go just to
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Speaker 2: find out who they're with and where they want to go.
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Speaker 1: I could understand that, if not that the initial call
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Speaker 1: came from one of the five at 1245 a.m., preceding
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Speaker 1: the farmer who called at 1.30 a.m. describing their suspicious activity.
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Speaker 1: Why did one of the five call the police?
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Speaker 2: I think that makes it more plausible that they have
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Speaker 2: some informants that was with them.
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Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that?
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Speaker 2: If he thought an attack was imminent and he was
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Speaker 2: working with British intelligence, wouldn't he make that phone call immediately?
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's all speculation at this point.
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Speaker 3: I understand. It's all speculation. It's all going to come
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Speaker 3: out over the next couple of days.
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Speaker 2: But I hope, let's put it that way, I hope
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Speaker 2: they're on top of these guys and they release them
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Speaker 2: on purpose.
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Speaker 1: The conversation continues.
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Speaker 5: Curtis Lewa and Larry Minty.
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Speaker 6: 710WOR.
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Speaker 1: Now, it's 710WOR Speed on the Street with Natalie Migliore. Ah,
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Speaker 1: Natalie from the streets, streets dodging those crazed e-bike drivers
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Speaker 1: in order to report to us what The feelings of
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Speaker 1: those are towards what all the bills that city council
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Speaker 1: wants to consider to rein them in.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, New York City is one step closer to
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Speaker 7: tightening those restrictions for e-bikes, scooters. And those mopeds that
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Speaker 7: sometimes they want to be cars, but they're bikes, but they.
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Speaker 5: Act like they can follow any rule of the road.
23:53
Speaker 5: There's no rule of the road. That's what a lot
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Speaker 5: of New Yorkers say. We know it.
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Speaker 7: Well here, especially in Midtown. The city council is considering
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Speaker 7: nearly two dozen bills. following several fatal collisions involving e-bikes
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Speaker 7: with a variety of bills that address several of New
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Speaker 7: Yorkers concerns. New Yorkers know those issues all too well.
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Speaker 8: I think it's dangerous sometimes, like the way that they
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Speaker 8: go fast and don't always obey the traffic laws. And
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Speaker 8: I'm driving and I'm trying to make either a right
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Speaker 8: or a left. And all of a sudden somebody shoots
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Speaker 8: out or darts out of nowhere. I'm worried, you know
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Speaker 8: what I mean? I'm worried for them. I'm worried for me.
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Speaker 6: I have been hit by a bike, not in a bad,
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Speaker 6: like severe way, but I won't say, oh, they should
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Speaker 6: not exist because I think they are also very convenient.
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Speaker 6: I am a fan of e-bikes myself.
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Speaker 1: Fan all of them except for the city bikes.
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Speaker 7: Now, maybe he's saying that because city bikes actually cap
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Speaker 7: at the speed limit an e-bike 15 miles per hour.
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Speaker 7: That's his fast as you can go on a city bike.
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Speaker 7: But part of these bills will help city leaders curb
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Speaker 7: advertisements for class three bikes, which go as fast as
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Speaker 7: 25 miles an hour. Once you get that pedal assist on,
25:14
Speaker 7: you don't even need to pedal. It'll just go. Now,
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Speaker 7: one of the bills would also force third party delivery
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Speaker 7: apps to obtain liability insurance. And as you guys know,
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Speaker 7: we've been covering this for a long time. Insurance has
25:26
Speaker 7: been in the conversation for years.
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Speaker 8: What happens if there is, God forbid, an accident? Whatever
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Speaker 8: company they work for, DoorDash or whatever, should at least contribute,
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Speaker 8: if not cover them in some ways, the way that
25:41
Speaker 8: some organizations that you work for have some kind of
25:44
Speaker 8: insurance policy for you, you know, at least some minimal amount.
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Speaker 6: I think it's for the safety of both pedestrians and
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Speaker 6: the actual delivery guys. I mean, I really respect them.
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Speaker 6: I order food a lot of times and it's unfair
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Speaker 6: to say, hey, they're kind of doing this because it's
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Speaker 6: the consumers on the other side who are like, oh,
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Speaker 6: I need all of this fast.
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Speaker 7: Maybe too fast, though, okay, because the city council says
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Speaker 7: e-bike collisions are up more than 30% this year compared
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Speaker 7: to last year. It comes as the number of riders
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Speaker 7: continue to grow with roughly 65,000 e-bikes already on the streets,
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Speaker 7: and those many of them deliveristas, okay? New Yorkers are
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Speaker 7: concerned how any of these 23 laws would even be enforced.
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Speaker 6: A law is as good as how best it is enforced.
26:37
Speaker 6: You can make any number of laws, but if there's
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Speaker 6: no good enforcing mechanism in place, it doesn't mean anything.
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Speaker 1: They should be forced to follow it or be fine
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Speaker 1: like everyone else. Get a ticket. I mean, we all
26:49
Speaker 1: live here.
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Speaker 8: The police are stretched pretty thin, and I don't know
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Speaker 8: that that's going to become like a priority or something,
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Speaker 8: to be honest with you. But, you know, I'm kind
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Speaker 8: of skeptical about government taking care of us anyway in general.
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Speaker 5: Well, we'll find out.
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Speaker 7: The final legislative vote is expected to be decided early
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Speaker 7: next year. And this is a really dense package of bills.
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Speaker 7: They're probably going to scrap some, decide on what makes
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Speaker 7: it and what doesn't. But one of the bills, which
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Speaker 7: I found really interesting because I'm sure you guys see
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Speaker 7: it too, is when the guys ride their e-bikes on
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Speaker 7: the sidewalks. And it happens rarely, but specifically on the
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Speaker 7: corner of 56th and 8th, I see that tremendously. And
27:35
Speaker 7: they want to see if there's a way to get
27:38
Speaker 7: a slowing mechanism down when the mechanism recognizes that the
27:44
Speaker 7: bike has left the roadway and gets on the sidewalk.
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Speaker 5: Now, whoever, if.
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Speaker 7: That's in existence, that's crazy technology.
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Speaker 1: You know, this goes back to when we had messengers
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Speaker 1: in the city before... You're faxed and that. And they
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Speaker 1: would speed around because they got paid based on their
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Speaker 1: ability to get that message to another company. Those were
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Speaker 1: normal bicyclists on 10-speed races. And it caused some problems.
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Speaker 1: Then they have the motorized guys. Why do you need
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Speaker 1: a motorized vehicle? Why not an old-fashioned 10-speed racer to
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Speaker 1: do your deliveries? There would still be some problems, but
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Speaker 1: nowhere near the problems you have now. This is crazy.
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Speaker 1: 40 miles an hour, 45 miles an hour with helmets on.
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Speaker 1: They know they're going to get into accidents and they
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Speaker 1: don't think that's going to hurt other people.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 7: And they said that they've really seen the increase in
28:35
Speaker 7: the uptick in 2020, which was a lot when we
28:38
Speaker 7: had our migrant crisis here in New York City. And
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Speaker 7: a lot of those people went to work to be
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Speaker 7: delivery workers here. And that's like how they got their bikes.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: Nobody could see this, but Larry is shaking his head
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Speaker 5: at me.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not shaking my head at you. I'm not
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Speaker 2: shaking my head at you. I'm just we're talking about
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Speaker 2: legislation and the city council. If it's not enforced, you
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Speaker 2: can pass all the legislation you want. I've seen cops
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Speaker 2: watch people go the wrong way on a one way
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Speaker 2: street on a bike in the middle of the street.
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Speaker 2: Nobody does anything.
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Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter until they take it seriously in the city.
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Speaker 1: Well, tomorrow, Natalie Migliore will be back, same time, same
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Speaker 1: place at 7.50.