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Scerry Christmas! Outlast: Whistleblower - Part 2 · Replay Reviews

• 0:00
  We finished watching Whistleblower. I don't know if we should get any of your reactions now or save them for the end.
• 0:05
  Definitely just feel a bit more relieved than at last.
• 0:11
  You're a little happier.
• 0:14
  Should we do out of context summary points?
• 0:16
  Let's do it.
• 0:17
  It was hard to choose this time. There's a lot of good options, but here are the ones that I decided on.
• 0:23
  Someone tries to steal Wayland's pee-pee.
• 0:26
  We narrowly avoid an arranged marriage, and it turns out we're not the only ones concerned over Traeger's lack of pants.
• 0:34
  Wayland, seemingly unscathed from his fall through a roof, continues to fight for a way out of Mt. Massif.
• 0:40
  Unfortunately, he lands right into Gluskin's lair.
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  So, he wakes up, well, he gets up from the fall, and he's now in like some attic type area,
• 0:52
  and we start hearing these creepy voices, and they're saying some uncomfortable things.
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  I mean, we can name a few of them.
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  Grow some hair on them.
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  A gift for the ground.
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  And then I think my personal favorite.
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  Go find yourself a possum, titty.
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  I'm sorry, what?
• 1:14
  I think that might be my new insult when I just want someone to leave me alone.
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  And the way the voices sound like, it sounds like a conversation, so you're wondering, is there more than one person,
• 1:23
  or is it just one person talking back and forth and using different voices? Who's there?
• 1:29
  We will get an answer to that, but before we get there, I realized when we were watching the main game,
• 1:36
  you can hear one of these voices in the background.
• 1:40
  So, I need to show you.
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  I have a clip to compare.
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  So, the first one I'm going to share with you is from the main game.
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  It's going to be hard to hear because it's in the background.
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  I'll play it a couple times.
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  All right, here we go.
• 2:01
  Because you kind of hear it at the end there.
• 2:07
  You can kind of hear the voice though, right?
• 2:09
  It's like a female, like, get slashed.
• 2:12
  I can't make out the words.
• 2:14
  Well, then compare it to this one from Whistleblower.
• 2:22
  When I was listening, I was like, that's the same voice.
• 2:25
  When we're playing as Miles, I think this person is somewhere else in the building.
• 2:30
  And I think we might see how they got to there through the course of the rest of this game.
• 2:38
  But the sound clip that I was showing you was in part one from the gameplay at 31.13.
• 2:47
  These people also mention Gluskin.
• 2:50
  It sounds like they want to offer someone up to him.
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  So, I'm guessing that's probably Waylon.
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  And that makes you wonder why.
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  Why are we offering people up to Gluskin?
• 3:03
  So, Waylon continues to walk through this attic.
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  And then we're surprised by a variant who rather loudly yells, quiet.
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  I feel like him yelling quiet was much louder than anything Waylon was doing.
• 3:14
  But anyway, he tells him that if they catch us, they'll give us to him.
• 3:19
  But continuing on, we find the first document for this piece of gameplay.
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  And it's an email from the KFC, Neil.
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  And it's titled Dissociative Dennis, who is a patient who has four personalities
• 3:34
  who are somehow concerned about a flood.
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  But I think this answers your question.
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  I think that these voices we're hearing are all the same person,
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  but four different personalities.
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  I don't know if you had any notes on Doc-1.
• 3:48
  Nope.
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  Waylon is then chased from the attic and ends up running into a highly questionable area,
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  which includes a mutilated body that has had some additional choice body parts sewn onto it.
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  But that's not the worst part.
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  I think we can agree on what the worst part of this is, right?
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  The head.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  And the fact that it's gross enough that we had to blur it.
• 4:16
  Oh, yeah.
• 4:18
  I might increase the blurring a little bit after watching it on the big screen.
• 4:22
  But yeah, this is clearly symbolizing birth, right?
• 4:25
  Definitely.
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  And when we go back to themes of this area, you keep hearing things about for the groom
• 4:32
  in a normal situation when you have bride and groom, I think having kids later than the road.
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  It's very normal, but the way they're doing it, it's a bit too forceful.
• 4:45
  That's very tame where the situation is.
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  Forceful, yeah, putting it lightly.
• 4:49
  Yes.
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  Well, I think Waylon is just as caught off guard as we were because he makes a note after seeing this.
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  And one of the things he says is this is the kind of thing a man cannot see without changing in some irreparable way valid.
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  But also, he says money profit things we made just because we could.
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  Is he talking about Gluskin or Murkoff?
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  I think he's talking about Murkoff, the entire situation, because it's not just about the situation that he's seen.
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  It's about the entire thing of just profiting off of these people.
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  And then we also know that from other confidential documents that they've gone through a lot of things about,
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  oh, let's get some more females in here to get some more pregnancies and earn some more money off of that.
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  So I think it's really about Murkoff.
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  Or Waylon, he's going to have so much PTSD, especially when it comes to labor and having kids and everything.
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  Oh, I think he already has kids.
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  So thank God, hopefully that chapter is over for him.
• 5:50
  He made it through already.
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  Yes, grandkids might be a different story, though.
• 5:55
  Well, then one of my all time favorite character introductions.
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  I mean, you could argue we saw him earlier, but I think he's a changed man now.
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  So I'm counting this as an introduction for him.
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  It's Gluskin.
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  And he just pops up in a window and says, God, it's fantastic.
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  I love it so much.
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  I think it's hilarious and it's terrifying.
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  And at some point he says, let me fill you up like, oh, yeah, I have a lot of issues with a lot of what he says.
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  You could make me whole.
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  I can feel that emptiness inside.
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  I want you to have my ring.
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  The smell of my love's auger.
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  Shilky smooth like a little girl again.
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  Cut away everything vulgar, which is why I like to call him get away from me, Gluskin.
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  And he proceeds to hunt down Wayland.
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  And it's clear that he's quite smitten with him.
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  Like you were saying, it sounds like he wants to do some things to with him.
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  Definitely wants to marry him or anyone else you can catch for that matter.
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  This guy is it's like a cat and mouse game for him, too, because, you know,
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  from all the environment and everything, Wayland is not going to be the first person he's killed or tried to do this to him.
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  It's just the newest toy.
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  And so it's pretty disgusting and disturbing.
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  And there's also a wedding dress.
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  If he gets his hands on Wayland, we all know what he's going to be dressed as.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I mean, it this is maybe one of the most intense characters, intense.
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  Oh, my gosh. Yes.
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  Chapters of a game that I have ever played and music to see.
• 7:43
  Oh, yeah. The music is frightening.
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  I'm wondering because he does say something that indicates he recognizes Wayland from the opening moments of this game.
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  And he's referencing when he runs up to the glass when Wayland is fixing the computer.
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  And do you think this is why he seems so extremely obsessed with him?
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  Or do you think he has this level of intensity?
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  I feel like it probably is more with Wayland.
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  But I also think it's probably because when he first saw Wayland, Wayland would have been his only way out.
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  And now he knows that he's not going to be able to leave.
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  So he's going to try to keep Wayland with him.
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  His one person from his how should I say, I think when he was still normal, Wayland was the only one who was normal with him.
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  So now that he knows he's changed, he wants to keep Wayland from as a token of his past life.
• 8:44
  He definitely has honed in on him from that interaction.
• 8:49
  And I think you're right. I think it's because that's just something that was in his brain before it went so mushy.
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  But so Wayland runs away, he jumps into an elevator shaft trying to land on a ladder, which unfortunately breaks.
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  And Gluskin gets pretty butthurt when this happens.
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  And he says, you would rather die than be with me.
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  I feel like that's an easy yes, especially knowing what's about to happen.
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  Well, the chase is still on until Wayland is cornered in a locker and Gluskin snatches him and hauls him down to his office.
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  Lair workroom.
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  Before we continue on down that scene, can we pause and just appreciate how he closes doors compared to Miles?
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  He slowly, softly closes the doors compared to Miles just slamming.
• 9:43
  Finally, they fixed it.
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  For that, Wayland deserves to make it out of here just for this.
• 9:49
  Gluskin is dragging Wayland down and it sounds like he is having some issues.
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  He kind of like self admits some some daddy issues.
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  Maybe I don't know if you picked up on that.
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  I think it's not just daddy issues.
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  It's like being a man issue.
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  Yeah, it's like like his dad is the root cause.
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  Masculinity problems.
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  Gluskin gases Wayland and then 12 hours go by.
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  So you have to wonder where's Miles at this point.
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  While in and out of sleep, Wayland witnesses some failed surgery attempts.
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  And this is when you see just how brutal Gluskin is.
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  He's he's he's chopping stuff off and trying to add some new stuff.
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  But when he fails and one dies, he just like is like, oh, well, onto the next one pretty much and shoves this poor variant off the table.
• 10:50
  He's almost I don't know if he's worse than Trigger or if Trigger is worse than him.
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  I just I can't tell which one I would prefer to be stuck with if I had to choose between the two of them.
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  You know, it's it's an excellent question.
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  At least Gluskin is wearing a suit.
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  He's the he's the best dressed patient we've seen the whole game.
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  And Trigger has no pants.
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  So that's a strike one against Trigger.
• 11:18
  I guess depends on what part you want cut off for his fingers or your dick.
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  Uh, well, I mean, since we don't have one, I'm going to go with we want to keep our fingers for longer.
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  Right. Yes.
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  OK, moving on from that, Waylon is now on the chopping block quite literally.
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  But some guy, some amazing guy attacks Gluskin and Waylon is able to escape fully intact.
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  And is what we witness in this moment why we see so many variants running around with no peepee.
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  It has to be. It has to be.
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  So that means that some of them got away.
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  Or do you think it's some results of the morphogenic engine in some cell generation gone wrong?
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  It's hard to say because there's so many of them.
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  And it seems like the differences like can't we were talking about this, but the ones with no peepee have like the the crazy looking skin.
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  But then like the SDWDOs, their skin is more normal.
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  I think is it just that they are farther down in the treatment and that's a side effect?
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  Or were they just people who were captured by Gluskin and as a result of whatever torture he puts them through,
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  that's what they end up looking like. And they're just somehow the lucky few that are able to escape.
• 12:51
  You have Miles writing something about saying that maybe I was wrong telling the world would only draw it here.
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  Should this place just die faster and faster here?
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  I won't tell the world if it means spreading the infection. Let it die alone. Let it rot.
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  It's ironic because he started this entire thing where he messaged Miles and yet he's going far enough in saying that.
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  Oh crap, I think I made a mistake.
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  I get his point. No one should be in contact with this.
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  But there's also how do you know it's not going to spread on its own?
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  We already have that theory and of course he doesn't know about this, but that theory that the treatment's leaking
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  and that's what the helicopters and the pesticide is trying to control.
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  I think that there's no way to control this. And so I think exposing it is the best chance.
• 13:45
  It's not over yet. Gluskin is very determined to make Waylon his bride and the only escape is out of window.
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  If he wasn't afraid of heights before he is now because he's jumped off of some high places.
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  Although he seems relatively unharmed each time so maybe not.
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  But he is able to keep going and quickly finds a document and this is a patient status report for Gluskin.
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  And we learned some more about him.
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  It also sounds like it's not just his dad and maybe his uncle was abusive to him.
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  He's been through something and maybe that's why he was targeted to be a patient in the first place.
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  Right, the horror and that's why he was one of them in the other fishbowl things at the start of the game.
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  But it also sounds like he's maybe a serial killer.
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  They say that he refuses to discuss his victims.
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  When I showed him pictures of the women he would not admit that they were dead or mutilated.
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  And this kind of goes back to your question that you had earlier.
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  Does he not want to admit that they're dead or mutilated because he wants them to be alive?
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  To be his brides?
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  And this is something I wrote in my notebook when I played.
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  So I'm glad I went back and read all my notes.
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  All the women are gone.
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  So he can't kill any women.
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  So do you think that his goal with creating women out of these poor variants is to marry them or just to kill them?
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  I feel like both.
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  To marry them and then kill them or maybe the other way around.
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  But it also seems like not admitting that they're dead might be a way for him to cope saying that he didn't do anything wrong.
• 15:22
  Since if I don't think they're dead, then that means I didn't kill them and therefore I'm not in the wrong.
• 15:27
  Maybe that's why he's a serial killer because he never considered himself a murderer to begin with.
• 15:33
  He seems like a very deep character, surprisingly so.
• 15:38
  And it really is because you can understand where he's coming from.
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  Doesn't mean it's right, but you understand why he is the person he is.
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  Right. You can see why he got messed up.
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  Can you say poor Gluskin?
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  I mean, he's a bit beyond being able to redeem himself.
• 15:57
  Yeah, he still made his choices.
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  Moving on, an injured Weyland makes his way into another building, which unfortunately turns out to be another part of Gluskin's domain.
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  So I don't know what kind of PE class that is.
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  I'm glad we never experienced anything like that when we were in school.
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  Can you imagine the PTA members and all the parents going crazy?
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  It's rope climbing gone wrong.
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  So I mean, who's helping him hang all these people?
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  Do you think that Eddie is killing all these people and each person he's somehow created a pulley system that he's pulling them up?
• 16:31
  I do. And I think we'll see that pulley system in action.
• 16:35
  Can we say he is very organized?
• 16:39
  It's not, I mean, it's gross, but he's organized.
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  So at least he's got that going for him.
• 16:45
  So this is when actually seeing all these bodies hanging in the gym is when Weyland makes another note that he sort of asked the same question that I had in my notes, which is whatever story he's telling himself, he's not making women to bear his children.
• 16:59
  He's making women to kill them.
• 17:01
  I do think he's a serial killer that kills women.
• 17:05
  And I thought he was more obsessed with marriage, but maybe it is having children.
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  And if so, why?
• 17:16
  I feel like there's not much said about his mom.
• 17:19
  And so maybe he went as his dad kills mom or something.
• 17:23
  But I have a feeling that his mom has to be involved in this kind of situation and part of where his PTSD stems from is seeing something.
• 17:33
  It seems like he likes his mother.
• 17:35
  Like he'll sing songs about her and say like, oh, I need to find a woman as good as the one that dad found, which is a little creepy way to put it.
• 17:44
  Maybe it's not that he liked his mom.
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  He liked what he thought his mom was.
• 17:48
  Yeah, maybe it's like him imagining something being very perfect because the reality of it is not.
• 17:56
  Yeah, maybe he's trying to recreate his childhood, but in a what it should have been instead of what it turned out to be.
• 18:03
  I'm confused.
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  Did Gluskin find a bride?
• 18:08
  Who is this person, this thing holding the key?
• 18:11
  It's wearing a wedding dress.
• 18:13
  It's set up as a ceremony like he's about to marry this thing.
• 18:17
  Why is that there if Wayland supposed to be his bride?
• 18:20
  You know what I'm saying? Is it just the placeholder so he can look at it and be like, soon there'll be a real person there?
• 18:25
  No, I think that person just died in that situation.
• 18:30
  Was it a person? Is it a mannequin?
• 18:32
  I couldn't tell.
• 18:33
  I thought it was a person.
• 18:35
  Well, I also I had my hand covering my face and just looking through the cracks in my finger.
• 18:39
  Most of this latter half of the game.
• 18:42
  Fair.
• 18:43
  I wouldn't trust my word.
• 18:44
  I feel like I need to look real quick.
• 18:47
  I don't know if it makes a difference.
• 18:48
  I thought it was a dude in a dress.
• 18:51
  That would be the assumption.
• 18:54
  It looks pretty real.
• 18:56
  It looks pretty bloody.
• 18:58
  But in any case, I think it's dead.
• 19:04
  It's no longer living.
• 19:05
  It's holding a key, which, hey, yay, we have a key.
• 19:09
  Gluskin shows up again and Wayland does get grabbed and Gluskin is over it.
• 19:15
  He's tired of it.
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  He's at his wit's end.
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  So he decides to add Wayland to his collection of hanging mutilated bodies.
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  After, by the way, he punched the absolute soul out of Wayland.
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  Right?
• 19:26
  It must be like some enhanced strength that he has.
• 19:29
  So he's trying to string him up using that pulley system that you referenced.
• 19:34
  But things do not go according to plan.
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  And Wayland is able to wiggle enough to cause a chain reaction that ends with Gluskin getting impaled.
• 19:43
  Holy cow.
• 19:45
  That was such an intense scene.
• 19:47
  The music, how it just crescendos and gets louder.
• 19:50
  And it's so intense because you're wondering, is this it for Wayland?
• 19:56
  Is this the end of the game?
• 19:58
  Because you know, Miles died and it wouldn't be any surprise if Wayland dies.
• 20:03
  Does Wayland think it's funny?
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  He takes a note after seeing Gluskin's body.
• 20:08
  I'm trying to not laugh.
• 20:11
  Everyone who comes out, there's no way they come out still bright and cheery and a positive outlook on life.
• 20:19
  They come in dark.
• 20:20
  They come out with some scars and everything.
• 20:22
  And I think this is just one instance where when you see death that frequently, he probably doesn't make much of it anymore.
• 20:30
  That's why he's a bit, you can justify why it's okay for Wayland to be laughing at the death of Eddie.
• 20:39
  And also, I mean, that may have tried to murder him.
• 20:42
  I agree with you.
• 20:43
  I think my question, though, is what's funny about it?
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  Is it the irony?
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  He's in disbelief.
• 20:50
  And it's funny because that could have been him.
• 20:52
  But it's not the way Eddie tried to kill Wayland is the way that he dies.
• 20:58
  So I think that's what's funny because it's ironic for Wayland to witness.
• 21:02
  It could have been him, but it's not.
• 21:05
  Right.
• 21:06
  But then also in that at the start of the game, that exchange, he says, like, you have to help me.
• 21:11
  I know you can or something along those lines.
• 21:14
  And then he ends up being the person who kills him, which is also kind of funny, I guess.
• 21:19
  So maybe he's laughing at that, too.
• 21:21
  I think it's time to say so long to Gluskin.
• 21:24
  I can start.
• 21:26
  I have three main points why I think he's a mother.
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  One, did he not think that people would try to escape him for a reason?
• 21:37
  Like, does he not do some self-reflections like, oh, everyone tries to keep running away from me?
• 21:41
  Maybe I'm the problem.
• 21:43
  Him just continue to do more wrongful things and everything is an issue.
• 21:49
  Second point, did he not stop to think why people keep dying when he's just cutting off their private parts and everything?
• 21:56
  When he kills someone and just dumps them on the ground like, oh, next one, you're up and just goes ahead and does the same thing.
• 22:04
  He's very disconnected.
• 22:06
  Not a lot of humanity left.
• 22:08
  And the third thing is that there really is no valid reason for him to be killing so many people.
• 22:14
  He's just a serial killer who's not ready to admit that he is one.
• 22:19
  So I think for those three reasons, I'm going to say he's a so long mother.
• 22:24
  Yeah, it's pretty obviously a mother.
• 22:27
  We don't even have to go that deep for this one.
• 22:29
  There's really no contradictory information that says he wouldn't be a mother.
• 22:35
  But let me just list off some of the highlights here.
• 22:37
  He might be a serial killer.
• 22:39
  He's very misogynistic.
• 22:41
  He's killed about five classes worth of people and mutilated countless others.
• 22:46
  So I marked him as a deeply disturbed mother.
• 22:50
  Totally agree.
• 22:52
  We didn't know him long, thankfully.
• 22:55
  So long, mother.
• 22:57
  Better or worse than Father Martin?
• 22:59
  Oh, he's definitely ten times worse than Father Martin.
• 23:04
  Father Martin isn't looking so bad anymore, is he?
• 23:07
  He's actually looking a lot better.
• 23:11
  Speaking of Father Martin, after Waylon gets away from this Gluskin situation,
• 23:16
  he sees a burning church in the distance.
• 23:19
  Do you think that this is on fire because of Father Martin lighting himself on fire?
• 23:25
  I was thinking it's either because of that or maybe going back to the notes
• 23:30
  saying how someone should just light this place on fire and just prevent more people coming in.
• 23:35
  Do you think when his email that he sent out, maybe another person came in
• 23:39
  and decided to do what he wanted to do, which was just burning the place to prevent people from coming in?
• 23:46
  It's certainly possible because Waylon says that he sent it out to multiple people.
• 23:51
  So it is certainly possible.
• 23:53
  But I feel like just the fact that it's the church that's on fire,
• 23:56
  that makes me think it's the fire that Father Martin started,
• 24:00
  which is kind of cool in a way because even though Father Martin was pretty screwed up,
• 24:06
  does he in some way, if this fire keeps going, does he help the situation a little bit?
• 24:12
  I think so, but I also at the same time, depending on how much the FBI needs for evidence
• 24:18
  to really punish those that were involved with it, then maybe it's not helping them out.
• 24:24
  But at the same time, if the FBI, considering the amount of documents they're forging,
• 24:29
  the FBI would have never caught on.
• 24:32
  So it's kind of like useless to collect evidence now.
• 24:36
  How ironic would it be if the Firefather Martin starts spread so far that it destroys Miles' camera
• 24:44
  with all the evidence he wanted him to witness?
• 24:48
  I guess he really didn't think the fire part through.
• 24:50
  Yeah.
• 24:51
  Because he wants people to witness what's going on, but then he sort of goes and destroys it.
• 24:56
  With Gluskin out of the way, Wayland might have a chance to at least get close to the exit.
• 25:01
  And along the way, we start to see, I'm going to call them agents, tactical people.
• 25:06
  We'll call them agents.
• 25:08
  And he sees some of them looking at Trager's body, and it's pretty clear that they've been kept in the dark
• 25:15
  about what's happening here.
• 25:17
  They're immediately taking Trager's side, and they're like, they even took his pants,
• 25:22
  which we know is not what happened.
• 25:24
  It seems like he very on his own volition took off his pants.
• 25:29
  I was also curious, maybe that when the agents come in and everything,
• 25:33
  they're not the first group of people that came in to help them.
• 25:37
  Maybe that there's like the second or third round of people who've come in, but just were never able to leave and died.
• 25:44
  And I'm thinking that everyone who went in probably went in and saw some evil people, like Trager died.
• 25:51
  And they're like, oh, this poor person when in fact they weren't.
• 25:55
  And that's probably how they end up getting captured and everything.
• 25:58
  But you also give me a thought like this, seeing their perspective sort of solidifies the point that we were making,
• 26:06
  like when Chris Walker died, and we didn't feel comfortable just straight up calling him a mother****
• 26:12
  because of what he's been through.
• 26:14
  These people walking into the situation and seeing Trager there immediately assume that he's the victim.
• 26:20
  But in reality, he was torturing people.
• 26:24
  And so then that goes back into what happened to him to turn him that way.
• 26:29
  Like everyone in this building could be a victim and an instigator.
• 26:34
  OK, so Wayland finds a document.
• 26:37
  Helen is at it again.
• 26:39
  I think Helen might be one of the main villains in this game.
• 26:42
  They're trying to muscle Wernicke out and sounds like kill him too, right?
• 26:47
  You're going to murder him?
• 26:48
  Documented murder.
• 26:50
  She then talks about three lucid dreamers, that it sounds like there's some discoveries with these people that could lend probably a lot of money.
• 27:01
  And they list out the patient numbers, but I was not able to find patient numbers anywhere.
• 27:08
  I don't know if you had any luck figuring out who these people are.
• 27:13
  Well, they're building a new facility to test out some new stuff with these three patients.
• 27:19
  Helen is wanting to be involved and she's basically saying, hopefully the building will be safe enough for female staff to come back.
• 27:27
  She wants to be able to see with her own eyes that female employees or patients will get pregnant out of the blue.
• 27:36
  But I'm also thinking, wouldn't it be ironic if she was the one who got pregnant by visiting this team because she wanted to have female patients there?
• 27:45
  Yeah, I hope that a lot of these people get that sort of irony, that justice.
• 27:52
  She deserves it. I don't like her.
• 27:55
  Me neither.
• 27:57
  But yeah, they're building a new facility. So do they even care about Matt Massive anymore?
• 28:01
  Or is this just Warnocky's project? And do you think they had any hand in sort of instigating some of this downfall?
• 28:10
  I think it's all just indirect consequences of things. We don't know exactly the source of what starts what.
• 28:16
  Every action that they have is, there's a ripple effect.
• 28:20
  And the crazy thing is, I guess we don't know when this document was created, but all of this stuff is happening and has been happening.
• 28:27
  And they're going to start it again somewhere else.
• 28:31
  So while Wayland is still trying to avoid the tactical team, we overhear one of them say.
• 28:36
  Multiple officers down in the basement. Unknown to me. We need help.
• 28:43
  Help!
• 28:45
  So are they being attacked by Walrider Miles right now?
• 28:48
  Are we sure the Walrider is Miles right now?
• 28:54
  Hold on to that one.
• 28:57
  Step one. Timeline, right? Like, do we think that these people calling for help?
• 29:02
  Is this the ending of the first game when the Walrider Miles, whatever you want to call it, attacks the tactical team?
• 29:08
  Do you think that's what's happening right here?
• 29:11
  I don't know. I'm not confident. I feel like we don't get enough information.
• 29:16
  If the church fire really was Father Martin, then we know it's closer to the end.
• 29:21
  So I think that it is him. So I think that the fire is Father Martin.
• 29:26
  And that this is, I think this is probably Miles attacking.
• 29:31
  Just based off of what we see at the ending of the first game, we know that tactical team is attacked.
• 29:37
  And so then my follow up question, if that's true, is to these agents who are getting this message now that Wayland is looking at,
• 29:45
  do they leave to go help the people in the basement? And that clears the way for Wayland to escape.
• 29:51
  So in a way, does Miles help Wayland get to the exit?
• 29:54
  I mean, Wayland was pretty darn close to the exit anyways.
• 29:58
  And I feel like whether or not the tactical team was there, I think Wayland would have been able to leave.
• 30:04
  Because we hear one of them say, shoot anything that moves.
• 30:08
  And I feel like that these agents would have seen him if they hadn't run to go help.
• 30:13
  I think it's connected. And I'll tell you why moving forward.
• 30:17
  So we find one last document and it's transfer authorization for those same three patients mentioned in the last document.
• 30:26
  And it sounds like those fishbowls are hyperbaric chambers.
• 30:30
  And I feel like that's something that we should have been able to figure out, Kathy.
• 30:35
  You're talking to someone who's not very bright when it comes to this game because I'm paralyzed in fear from watching this.
• 30:41
  We've been calling them pods, fishbowls.
• 30:44
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  Like, I feel like we could have figured this one out.
• 30:48
  But anyway, and later in this document, they say like they're physically blind, but not unseen.
• 30:55
  Do you have any thoughts on what that means?
• 30:58
  My only guess is that they're seeing in their dreams.
• 31:03
  But the reality is they're blind.
• 31:07
  So they're seeing with their mind's eye or something.
• 31:10
  I don't really understand.
• 31:13
  Yeah. Well, and they call them lucid dreamers.
• 31:15
  So are they in a permanent dream state?
• 31:17
  So like their eyes don't function anymore, but they still are able to lucid dream and sort of like a like a dreamwalking way.
• 31:25
  How else can you see when your body isn't able to help you see?
• 31:30
  Right. We do get to the exit, but someone's there to greet us.
• 31:36
  Blair, what a turd.
• 31:39
  He doesn't want to let any information out.
• 31:41
  And he stabs Wayland in the gut.
• 31:43
  I was so mad. Why?
• 31:46
  You just like want to start swearing at him.
• 31:49
  Like, how dare you stab Wayland after everything this man has gone through?
• 31:54
  But then the Walrider swoops in, saves the day, kills Blair.
• 31:59
  And this is why, going back to our last topic, why I think that it is Miles slash Walrider in the basement.
• 32:08
  That sort of leads these agents away, even if it's not purposefully to lead them away.
• 32:14
  It's still a reaction of what he does.
• 32:16
  And so I think the Walrider saves Wayland and kills Blair.
• 32:21
  So does this mean that Miles does have some control over the Walrider?
• 32:27
  Because is he, by killing Blair, allowing Wayland to expose the truth by getting out of here alive?
• 32:36
  Because why wouldn't he kill Wayland, too?
• 32:38
  That makes a really good point, because Miles slash the Walrider is able to tell that Wayland is a civilian and not a doctor, not a patient in anything.
• 32:49
  So I think he is trying to let Wayland do the thing that he wasn't able to do.
• 32:54
  Yeah, that's what I think, too.
• 32:57
  And I think that this helps answer one of our burning questions, which was like the Walrider host relationship.
• 33:02
  How does that work?
• 33:04
  And there still might be a spectrum of like maybe Miles was just such a perfect host that he's able to have some control over the Walrider.
• 33:12
  But it seems like this is something that Miles would want and something that Miles would do.
• 33:18
  Save Wayland, let him get out, expose the truth.
• 33:22
  So is that where we're leaning right now, that Miles has at least some control?
• 33:26
  I mean, it has to. Otherwise, Wayland would have died.
• 33:29
  Right.
• 33:31
  Well, I think we're on deck for another so long.
• 33:34
  Jeremy Blair.
• 33:36
  I don't have a lot to say about this guy either.
• 33:39
  He's a textbook mother******.
• 33:41
  I mean, what can I even say?
• 33:43
  He wants money and he's fine covering up torture and far worse to get it.
• 33:49
  Plus, he's a golfing buddy of traggers.
• 33:51
  I agree with you.
• 33:52
  He tried to kill Wayland.
• 33:53
  He did so many illegal things, literally has no ethics.
• 33:58
  It's karma waiting for it to happen, so I'm glad Miles was the one who was able to do that.
• 34:05
  It's almost a bit of like a full circle moment, too.
• 34:08
  A little bit of like closure, maybe even redemption.
• 34:12
  Does it make you feel better about the ending of the main game?
• 34:15
  Yeah.
• 34:17
  I mean, what would have been perfect is if Miles and Wayland could both get there or get out of there.
• 34:23
  This is the second best option considering how Miles is dead.
• 34:27
  Anything else to say about Blair?
• 34:29
  She would just say so long to that mother******.
• 34:31
  Yeah, so long mother****** doesn't deserve any more air time.
• 34:35
  He doesn't. I'm really glad he got exploded.
• 34:37
  But yeah, Wayland gets into Miles' car and he films the Walriders slash Miles before driving away.
• 34:42
  At that very last moment when Wayland's backing out in the Jeep, we see like a swarm of black masks there and then we see like a shadow of a man.
• 34:54
  I don't know if I'm imagining things.
• 34:55
  Do you think that shadow of a man is Miles?
• 34:58
  I do. And here is where it gets interesting.
• 35:01
  I'm glad you brought this up because in the main game, every time that Miles films the Walrider, it's this weird looking thing, like no skin.
• 35:10
  Like it doesn't look perfectly human, right?
• 35:13
  It's like a weird looking thing.
• 35:15
  But in this scene, when Wayland is filming it, it's a normal person, fully clothed.
• 35:21
  So is that Miles?
• 35:23
  I think yes. And I think whatever had control of the Walrider before.
• 35:27
  Was it the artificial AI?
• 35:29
  And that's why it looks weird.
• 35:31
  Was it Billy? Like if it was Billy, why wouldn't it look like a human like Miles?
• 35:36
  I guess the next question then is, do you think that Miles is purposely staying back and staying there because he knows the damage the Walrider can?
• 35:45
  And do you think he knows that he can't go with him and it's for the greater good for him to stay back?
• 35:52
  That's a good question. And I feel like I need to ask myself some questions before I get to your question.
• 35:57
  Part one, is he, because he's not attacking him, right?
• 36:02
  He's just like slowly walking towards him.
• 36:04
  So is he just trying to herd him out?
• 36:07
  Hurry up, get out of here. Go tell the truth.
• 36:10
  Or is he like, hey, wait up, buddy. Let me in the car. Let's get out of here together.
• 36:14
  Like, is he aware fully that he is the Walrider or does he still have enough of Miles to be like, take me with you?
• 36:22
  Or is he like you said, is he tethered to Mount Massive in some way if he goes too far away?
• 36:28
  Like what happens?
• 36:30
  So I guess the answer to your question is, I don't know.
• 36:34
  Yeah.
• 36:35
  I mean, there's so many different theories that we can have right now.
• 36:38
  Because he's walking and like almost limping like he's fighting it because when the Walrider attacks Blair,
• 36:45
  it's like we've seen the Walrider through the main game.
• 36:48
  Incredibly powerful. Nothing's holding it back.
• 36:51
  But when Waylon is filming Miles as the Walrider, it's like he's walking against wind.
• 36:56
  And so that's what makes me think, is he trying to get out of here still?
• 37:02
  I don't know. But it's different than any time we've seen the Walrider.
• 37:07
  How did you like it? Did this answer some questions for you?
• 37:09
  Are you feeling better about this series as a whole?
• 37:11
  Yes, I'm actually feeling even more satisfied with this ending knowing that that was Miles.
• 37:17
  And I'm glad that Waylon was able to make it home because I would be really mad if someone else died too.
• 37:23
  Is there anything else to say about part two?
• 37:26
  That was it for me.
• 37:28
  I don't even think we need to do a summary.
• 37:30
  I feel like all the questions we had either are still questions or we sort of discussed them already.
• 37:35
  I feel like we've left and summarized it in a place where we're comfortable with what we have.
• 37:42
  Yeah, I think we know what we're going to know for now.
• 37:46
  So I think that's the end of Outlast Whistleblower, the end of Scary Christmas.
• 37:51
  And we're going to have one more episode left this season.
• 37:55
  We're excited for it. Hopefully we're not hyping it up too much, but we'll see you then.
• 38:01
  Anything you want to say before you count us off?
• 38:04
  Happy holidays.
• 38:06
  There it is. We got one. We got one in there. I don't think we've said that at all yet.
• 38:10
  On one, voice recorder. Three, two, one.