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#481 - Blu & Exile · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Yo, what a world. This is Blu Blue, this is
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Speaker 1: Exile and we're live on.
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Speaker 2: A bootleg keV podcast. Check us out, Yo, bootleg keV podcast.
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Speaker 2: Man special guests in here. We got Blue and Exile
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Speaker 2: in the building.
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Speaker 3: Well well oh yeah, ye years was up with a
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Speaker 3: keV what's up? Manill it to you guys. I know recently,
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Speaker 3: you guys just celebrated what year anniversary of Below the
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Speaker 3: Heavens was it?
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Speaker 1: We just celebrated at the fifteenth, but it's I think
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Speaker 1: it's the eighteenth now or seventeenth, seventeenth.
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Speaker 3: It's such a classic album, man, Oh good looks man? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: all these years later. It's crazy because I just think
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Speaker 3: I think about, like how like an underground classic, Like
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Speaker 3: not a lot of people can say that, like the
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Speaker 3: strength of like how amazing a project was like landing
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Speaker 3: them on a like I feel like that Double XL
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Speaker 3: cover was important because you were like a representation of
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Speaker 3: like to me, like a like a demographic of hip
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Speaker 3: hop that like Double XL's kind of for about you know. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: who I was on your Freshman cover?
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Speaker 1: Oh let me see Asher Roth Mickey Fax.
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Speaker 3: That was that was like the second one.
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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that was the second one, yeap, yup, yup.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like wile A was on it, right,
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Speaker 2: wile A was on it, Cutty was on it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very blog era.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely that time yup, Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 3: That was actually the cover that kind of like, uh
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Speaker 3: made that ship because the first cover I feel like
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Speaker 3: kind of came and went I think like Crooked I
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Speaker 3: was on it, Joel was on it. But the second
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Speaker 3: cover I feel like kind of really kicked off like
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Speaker 3: the wave of that freshman class meaning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I feel that. I feel that. Yeah, that
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Speaker 1: was dope. Man. It was an honor to be a
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Speaker 1: part of that class man, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Man, You guys, uh, obviously just put out a new album.
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Speaker 3: What what was What was it about the timing to
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Speaker 3: give the fans something that they've been asking for in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four?
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Speaker 1: X always say, you know, we dropped it because I
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Speaker 1: finally stopped dropping albums for so he had a little
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Speaker 1: window to drop something. You know what I mean, I've
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Speaker 1: been dropping so much lately.
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Speaker 3: You have you been super active? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know what I mean, been going hard?
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Speaker 1: Uh have my son Man and I just turned it up,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Would you say, because sometimes it happens the other way.
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Speaker 3: You'll have kids and then you'll be like, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: kick back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah for real, for real, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: But you gotta pay those bills extra mouth to feed, man,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: So would you say that the having a kid motivated
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Speaker 3: you to have more output musically?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I just turned it up. I went an
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Speaker 1: overdrive when my son was born.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, I recorded like, uh seven albums last year,
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Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just telling you the album with Evidence
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Speaker 3: is special. Man. Oh thanks, some real fucking you know,
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Speaker 3: for anybody who's like a fan of like like early
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Speaker 3: two thousands, late nineties, just La boombap shit gave me
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Speaker 3: like real remnants.
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Speaker 1: Oh, word up, word up for sure. Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 3: What's the difference between like working on with someone like
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Speaker 3: EV and working with you know, one of the greatest
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Speaker 3: to ever touch an NPC right now?
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Speaker 4: Man?
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of similarities actually, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: Both of them are perfectionists in their own right, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But the difference. I always try
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Speaker 1: to make the music different, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: And the music is already different, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: between Evan and Exile or you know Shaffique or you
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Speaker 1: know Roy Royal with me, I tend to work with
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Speaker 1: one producer on a project.
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Speaker 3: Which is important. I feel like it's the lost art form.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it helps. It helps keep the consistency, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And a project. You know, I
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Speaker 1: love that. I love the consistency of an album that
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Speaker 1: you could just put it on and you get the
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Speaker 1: whole vibe. You just listen to the whole tape, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Uh X for you man? Like you? I feel like
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Speaker 3: are somehow one of the more underrated producers in the game.
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Speaker 3: What outside of working with Blue? Like, what else have
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Speaker 3: you been working on? What else you got going on?
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Speaker 3: Back recently? Uh?
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Speaker 4: Let's see uh uh. Me and Fashion have been starting
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Speaker 4: to work a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: He's on the album right, Yeah, he's on the album
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 4: Me and Blue still got a whole bunch more. We're
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Speaker 4: still working a lot as well. Yeah, we got some
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Speaker 4: more in store. I did an Exile radio album where
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Speaker 4: I sampled everything off of like LA Radio Waves, the drums,
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Speaker 4: the high hats, and I got.
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Speaker 3: A part two cooking wait when you say you sampled
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Speaker 3: everything off of so you would like just listen to
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Speaker 3: the radio and sample straight from radio de Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a it's a slept on,
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Speaker 4: it's a slept on, a gem of a It's all instrumental, yeah, instrumental.
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Speaker 4: But my goal was to try to have like a
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Speaker 4: real message with the music. So I was able to
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Speaker 4: kind of like manipulate what I heard on the radio
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Speaker 4: into a message that I stood by.
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Speaker 3: So well, I gotta check that out. Yeah, you know
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Speaker 3: it's has anybody trying rapping over that ship?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Actually Evidence did a full album to that.
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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, what he did.
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Speaker 4: But then at the same time, I was doing an
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Speaker 4: album where I was getting different artists to wrap on
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Speaker 4: it as well. I put it out It's called am FM,
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Speaker 4: and I fucked it all up. I should have just
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Speaker 4: I should have put that out because now I'm trying to.
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Speaker 3: Get it's not out.
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Speaker 4: We only used some of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a whole album just to that. He did.
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Speaker 3: What in the world in which Evidence is not rapping
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Speaker 3: as much as I'd like him too. That sounds amazing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can hear some of it. It's called AMFM.
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Speaker 4: Exile AMFM, So.
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Speaker 3: There are some of the evidence, but he did a
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Speaker 3: whole project.
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Speaker 4: He did it was dope. Man. I was just like
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Speaker 4: so involved in the project I was already doing. I'm like,
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Speaker 4: oh man, I'm already doing this, but I always kind
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Speaker 4: of kicked myself for it and let that one drop Blue.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious like your Oh, I guess both of you
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Speaker 3: guys growing up in southern California. I would say you
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Speaker 3: guys were kind of like the generation. I mean, you
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Speaker 3: guys are like blog era, Yeah, very much so right,
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Speaker 3: And prior to you guys, there was like dilated people's
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Speaker 3: in J five and Freestyle Fellowship and all that. What
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Speaker 3: were some of your bigger inspirations in terms of just
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Speaker 3: like the southern California hip hop scene that I feel
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Speaker 3: like doesn't get enough shine.
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Speaker 1: Everybody that was coming out man, J five, self scientific.
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Speaker 3: Self scientific for sure, come on.
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Speaker 1: Man, the Stone Store, Roster, Oh no, Med you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Mad Lib Man there from the Bay, Yes,
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Speaker 1: and I from the Bay.
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Speaker 4: King T and DJ Pooh. That's kind of one of
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Speaker 4: my first inspirations to want to do a full production album.
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Speaker 3: Actually really shout to the Liquid crew man, Yeah, yeah, serious. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: even all that like era or right before I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about just like like the I feel like there was
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Speaker 3: like such a dope underground scene in La. Oh yeah
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 4: I was a teenager standing out in front of the
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Speaker 4: club selling tapes out of my backpack, mixtapes and that's
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Speaker 4: what got me and Alo popping off. We had a
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Speaker 4: group called Eminon and one tape would be a mixtape
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Speaker 4: of everybody that we fucked with, and the other side
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Speaker 4: would be all of our songs. So I'd be like, Yo,
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Speaker 4: buy this tape. It's got all these cats, and then
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Speaker 4: they were able.
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Speaker 3: To listen to the other side.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is a pre you know, internet era.
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Speaker 4: So we went viral by our you know, the tapes
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Speaker 4: being dubbed and dubbed and dubbed, right, and those are
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Speaker 4: the days now.
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Speaker 3: Alos on the album, right, Alos on.
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Speaker 4: The album as well. Yeah. But back then, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 4: Project blowed living legends. You know.
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Speaker 3: I just remember like as a kid going to Fat Beats.
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Speaker 3: I grew up in Phoenix, so we can't we drove
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Speaker 3: out here to go to uh. I think it was
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Speaker 3: the ex Oh yeah, it was the Dilated People's Expansion
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Speaker 3: Team released like week and we went to Fat Beats
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Speaker 3: and I went to Fat Beats for the first time
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Speaker 3: and it was like fucking I was like, this is
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Speaker 3: the greatest place on earth. And there was very much
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Speaker 3: like I remember, like dudes selling like their ship like
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Speaker 3: to the people in line, like that was like a
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Speaker 3: real thing.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the days, man. I
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Speaker 4: would I would easily press the button to get rid
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Speaker 4: of Internet and just slank tapes out of the backpack. Again, No,
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Well, for I wonder too, could you guys have kind
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Speaker 3: of seen different sides of the music industry in terms
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Speaker 3: of just kind of evolution of how it's being monetized, right,
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Speaker 3: like streaming and you kind of hear streaming obviously it's
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Speaker 3: a little predatory in the way you get paid. But
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Speaker 3: there is like less of a barrier between fans and
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Speaker 3: artists now, like you could just hit upload, I guess,
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Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to like we got to press
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Speaker 3: up CDs and we gotta press up vine and all that.
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Speaker 3: What would you guys say, like, for like a, I
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Speaker 3: guess the business model of your music? How has it
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Speaker 3: changed over the years?
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Speaker 1: For me? The first the first album we did below
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Speaker 1: the heavens. Right when it dropped, they told us, you know,
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Speaker 1: iTunes was just getting popping, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: It was like, oh seven right.
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Speaker 1: They put up they put our tape on on uh
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Speaker 1: on iTunes. I don't even think it was.
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Speaker 4: And our album leaked, so it was actually like the
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Speaker 4: blog era that really saved us and championed us, Like
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Speaker 4: our album leaked and okay player chat rooms is really.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, blue and bus up.
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Speaker 4: Like we we were on the road touring before the
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Speaker 4: album even dropped, and there was cats who knew the
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Speaker 4: word the lyrics to the songs we were doing, and
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Speaker 4: me and me and we were bugging out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were debuting the songs and.
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Speaker 3: You were thinking that you guys were doing it for
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Speaker 3: the first time and people know.
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Speaker 1: The lyrics exactly exactly.
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Speaker 3: The whole tour message boards were crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
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Speaker 3: that's how like my name Bootleg keV I got it
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Speaker 3: because I was I would go on those message boards
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Speaker 3: download mixtapes because it was like the mixtape era. I
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Speaker 3: would just with little money I had go buy some CDs,
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Speaker 3: burn them.
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Speaker 4: I go to the spot that's that face to face
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Speaker 4: energy like g UNIT radio and like that.
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Speaker 3: That's all that fifty ship and even.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's oh yeah, fifty cents.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy. So yeah, because for people who don't know,
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Speaker 3: okay player was, it was kind of like the I
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Speaker 3: would say, like the most important hip hop site for
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Speaker 3: like a decade, because like I feel like when I
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Speaker 3: was a little kid and we had internet access to school,
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Speaker 3: we go to okay Player.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah. I would go to okay Player on
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Speaker 1: Stone Store. That was it, man.
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Speaker 3: And then like I even feel like you could. I
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Speaker 3: feel like we used to chat with people on okay Player,
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Speaker 3: like you could chat with other people, which was like
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Speaker 3: weird because like I never chatted with nobody, but you
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Speaker 3: could go in there and talk with motherfuckers about like whatever. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that was the roots site.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that was the roots.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, damn, that's crazy because I'm trying to think.
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Speaker 3: So O seven was like I feel like the blogg
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Speaker 3: error really started to crack and like eight on nine,
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Speaker 3: huh because O seven was still pretty early, like you said,
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Speaker 3: that was more like more message boards, like you know,
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Speaker 3: still hand to hand mixtapes and shit like that, and
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Speaker 3: like people were had like bear share and like what LimeWire.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and all that Twitter and ig started cracking
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Speaker 1: around eight on nine too.
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Speaker 3: For sure, yeah, oh nine for Twitter, Yeah yeah, no,
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Speaker 3: it was definitely uh, it was definitely a time. But
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Speaker 3: fast forward now, Like for you guys, you guys have
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Speaker 3: very few people can say they have like a classic
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Speaker 3: body of work. You guys have a classic body of
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Speaker 3: work that I feel like, you know, if we look
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Speaker 3: at the way that Illmatic has been like repackaged and
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Speaker 3: put out every time, it's like a university timestamp.
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Speaker 1: U huh.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was dope that you guys put out
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Speaker 3: like new hard copies and tapes and new merch for
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Speaker 3: the album. Oh yeah, for you guys, like, how has
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Speaker 3: the business change being like an underground quote unquote hip
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Speaker 3: hop artist in twenty twenty four as opposed to seven?
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Speaker 1: You know, the streaming game is what changed everything. That's
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Speaker 1: the biggest change, just the streaming, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's like, uh, you you you learn all these tools
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Speaker 1: to like sell your merch, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, your music is just being
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right almost for free ten
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Speaker 1: dollars a month.
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Speaker 3: Because you're really not making much money off of streams.
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Speaker 3: For people who don't know, like a million streams is
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Speaker 3: like thirty eight hundred dollars on Spotify yep. So it's
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Speaker 3: like you got to kind of do everything else around
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Speaker 3: the music. The music is kind of like the commercial
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Speaker 3: for the shirt or the hoodeah or real the vinyl
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Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
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Speaker 1: The music is starting to play the backdrop, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But we try to keep it in
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Speaker 1: the forefront though, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: That's dope.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 3: What are you guys most excited about with this new
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Speaker 3: album and the fans been loving it?
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Speaker 1: The fans have been loving it, man, I'm really really
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Speaker 1: excited to hit the roll with it because of how
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Speaker 1: much they're loving it, you know what I mean, how
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Speaker 1: much impact we're getting, how much like a input we're
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Speaker 1: getting already from the album. Yeah, I mean, people are
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Speaker 1: telling us it's just amazing, bro.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a dope album. I listened to it last night.
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Speaker 3: Great album. Oh good, love my workout, great great body
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Speaker 3: of work for.
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Speaker 1: Sure Ward it up, Ward it up. Yeah. Man, excited
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Speaker 1: to rock those joints, you know what I'm saying. Yep,
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Speaker 1: that's me.
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Speaker 3: Are you guys putting it tour together?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? We were leaving this Friday.
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Speaker 3: Oh so how many yeah? Shit, how many dates?
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Speaker 4: About like seventeen dates? We're doing a Frisco October four,
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Speaker 4: San Francisco.
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Speaker 3: Nice.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, then yeah, just going all across the country. You know,
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Speaker 4: go look up the dates on Dirty Signs, Ohrecords dot
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Speaker 4: com or just hit the link in our bio XIL.
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Speaker 3: I'm curious. You're one of the goats when it comes
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Speaker 3: to like just working an NPC. How have you, if
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Speaker 3: at all, changed, because technolog I feel like with DJ's
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Speaker 3: like DJ's got Serrado and then shit just kind of
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Speaker 3: changed for everybody. And then now we got controllers, where
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Speaker 3: before it was like we had a turntables and the
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Speaker 3: mixer and now there's just one piece of equipment. Have
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Speaker 3: you switched up your process and making beats at all
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Speaker 3: over the years or is it still just the same.
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Speaker 4: Well, as far as the live show, I do live NPC,
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Speaker 4: you know, no loops or anything, just like live per cushion.
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Speaker 3: It's fine type shit.
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Speaker 4: And I'm still lugging around the heavy ass NPC two
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Speaker 4: thousand uh for tours. As far as production, I still
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Speaker 4: use the NPC two thousand XCEL, but I have started
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Speaker 4: messing around with a little bit of DOS just to
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Speaker 4: help me work with live musicians and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: I was talking to my dude Bugs the Beasts, who's
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Speaker 3: a big producers and a lot of stuff for Kanye
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Speaker 3: and he works exclusively. He used to be an NPC
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Speaker 3: two thousand. He works exclusively off of the the NPC
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Speaker 3: that has the speaker in it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I want to get that. I need
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Speaker 4: to get that.
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Speaker 3: He's like, dude, He's like, I take this ship with
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Speaker 3: me everywhere. He's like, and I'm making beats on it.
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Speaker 3: But the best part is it is like I could
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Speaker 3: plug in in whatever session and everything I have right there.
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Speaker 4: And it's about, you know, three fourths less the weight
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Speaker 4: of NPC.
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Speaker 3: And I and it's got a battery. Yeah, so you
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Speaker 3: don't have to have you don't have to have a power.
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Speaker 4: I'm sleeping. I gotta do it. I gotta Getah.
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Speaker 3: There's no power outlet, right, so it's like, if it's charged,
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Speaker 3: you could make take that bitch anywhere.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, what what what you said? You do
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Speaker 3: some of the digital ship, Like what do you what
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Speaker 3: do you use?
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Speaker 4: I mess around with Serado.
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Speaker 3: Sample samples home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know a lot
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Speaker 3: of people love Ableton. Yeah, Ableton looks crazy though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've made a couple of beats on that I
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Speaker 4: don't you know, I can't.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, for you guys, man, who I mean being
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Speaker 3: your guys's taste and what you guys are into and
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Speaker 3: kind of what we know you guys to be making.
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Speaker 3: Is there any artists from the newer generation that you
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Speaker 3: guys are fans of that you guys are checking for
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Speaker 3: you kind of man?
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Speaker 1: All the new artists I check them out and they
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Speaker 1: already got twelve albums out, bro, So I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they knew or not. I'm thinking like Code of
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Speaker 1: the Friend, He's hard, Navy blue, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: The Russell L Russell.
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Speaker 3: Russell's got a lot of albums.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It has been out
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Speaker 1: for a minute. I feel like, you know, I just
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Speaker 1: get hip to him and I'm like they new to me.
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Speaker 3: But you know, no, he's a new artist. But he's
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Speaker 3: also got like yeah, oh yeah, sixty projects or something.
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Speaker 1: Man, that's going hard bro.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you know what's about him is he
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Speaker 3: does it's very similar to you. Is he'll work with
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Speaker 3: like a producer, for a whole album, yeah, or an artist.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so.
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Speaker 3: You should you should tap in with the Russell. I
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Speaker 3: think you guys should have some ship.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be do I'm down, Yeah, that'd be hard.
16:20
Speaker 3: Is there anybody you want to work with us, like
16:21
Speaker 3: Younger that you kind of checking for? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Huey brissh Nana, who's on our album.
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Speaker 3: Not a dope, who's dope as dope?
16:35
Speaker 1: Hell yeah?
16:36
Speaker 4: And uh, the cat Mugs worked with its crazy too.
16:39
Speaker 1: Oh Ross Fresco Ros Fresco.
16:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mugs been on his ship man just quietly
16:45
Speaker 3: just putting.
16:46
Speaker 4: Out he he's low Keith to got man Like, is
16:49
Speaker 4: this longevity in the game?
16:50
Speaker 3: And I just ran into Mayhem Lorent at the fucking
16:53
Speaker 3: Rouse by my house, which is right by Mugs studio
16:55
Speaker 3: in Burbank. How's the funk are you doing? Is I'm
16:58
Speaker 3: working on album? Bugs?
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that's my idol.
17:05
Speaker 3: I'm curious for you.
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Speaker 1: Blue.
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Speaker 3: Like the Freshman covers always like a weird thing because
17:11
Speaker 3: it kind of sets up these like expectations for people commercially,
17:16
Speaker 3: did you feel like there was like a gift in
17:18
Speaker 3: a curse to kind of like being on that cover
17:21
Speaker 3: at that time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, I was love, you know what I mean.
17:24
Speaker 1: I always felt I was just mad love. They were
17:26
Speaker 1: just showing, you know what I mean, Like I'm underground,
17:29
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I wasn't like trying
17:33
Speaker 1: to be commercial or anything. We just got a Warner
17:35
Speaker 1: Brothers deal at the time, so it was like it
17:38
Speaker 1: was fitting, you know what I mean. But you know,
17:40
Speaker 1: we still kept it true to being underground.
17:42
Speaker 4: He was extra underground with it, extra artsy. He did
17:46
Speaker 4: his back turned to the camera and history for the
17:49
Speaker 4: double XCEL. I loved this though.
17:51
Speaker 3: Who was it? I wonder because I don't remember all
17:54
Speaker 3: the way back then did the ciphers? Was everybody together?
17:57
Speaker 3: Because I know now they split.
17:58
Speaker 1: Out an interview for the interview.
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Speaker 3: But the cipher like did like who did you wrap
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Speaker 3: with for your cipher?
18:02
Speaker 1: You No, I wasn't even a cipher. They just had us.
18:04
Speaker 3: Everyone did an individual rap.
18:06
Speaker 1: Yeah makes such yep.
18:08
Speaker 3: It's a long time ago, fuck man. Yeah, Yeah, it's
18:12
Speaker 3: crazy because like I feel like the music industry can
18:15
Speaker 3: have like its ups and downs. Do you guys feel
18:19
Speaker 3: like you've ever been through like a point in time
18:21
Speaker 3: in your careers where like you were thinking about maybe
18:24
Speaker 3: giving up or quitting music, just maybe moving on.
18:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was actually thinking about becoming a producer
18:31
Speaker 1: back in the days, and then my studio ended up
18:33
Speaker 1: getting robbed, bro, So I had like had this studio
18:38
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, man, you know, And it was weird because
18:42
Speaker 1: I was transitioning into like being a DJ and a producer,
18:47
Speaker 1: and then all my equipment got jack so then it
18:49
Speaker 1: was just me and the raps. That's all I had left,
18:52
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to step
18:54
Speaker 1: right back into it.
18:55
Speaker 3: You know what I'm crazy.
18:56
Speaker 1: Yep. I felt it was like it was a weird
19:00
Speaker 1: divine intervention right there, you know what I'm saying.
19:02
Speaker 3: It like a fork in the road, almost like Verse
19:05
Speaker 3: telling you, like, no, you gotta still wrap. Yeah you're
19:07
Speaker 3: not done yet. Yeah you're too good man looks yeah. Man,
19:13
Speaker 3: all right, So tours come in, people can go. You guys.
19:16
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys are gonna be going overseas too.
19:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We have a Europe tour in December, and the dates
19:21
Speaker 4: and the tickets a up for sale right now in
19:23
Speaker 4: our bio.
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Speaker 3: So go support that, go get the album. I'm sure
19:26
Speaker 3: there's vinyls and all that.
19:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the vinyls and everything. Yeah, Dirty Science
19:30
Speaker 4: Records dot Com. You can go to Exile Radio on Instagram.
19:34
Speaker 1: Blue her favorite color. You know what I mean, go
19:37
Speaker 1: follow these guys.
19:38
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Blue do what he does best. Yeah,
19:42
Speaker 3: did you make this beat compilation that's about to pop off?
19:44
Speaker 4: Is this was?
19:45
Speaker 2: Hey?
19:45
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know it's just it's just me on the decks,
19:47
Speaker 4: you know, giving Blue some some classic beats. Flip says,
19:50
Speaker 4: he's got this freestyle that's crazy.
19:52
Speaker 3: Let's get right to it, man, we're gonna have that's
19:54
Speaker 3: a separate YouTube video. But yeah, make sure you go
19:58
Speaker 3: follow these guys. Man. You guys are fucking amazing. Man.
20:02
Speaker 3: So I'm glad you guys put out a new album
20:04
Speaker 3: and apparently there's more new music on the way.
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Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
20:07
Speaker 3: How much unreleased Blue and Xile is like on hard drives?
20:10
Speaker 1: Do not even ask? Oh?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, over one hundred joints for sure. Wow, But I
20:16
Speaker 4: think about like, yeah, we got about seventy that's gonna
20:20
Speaker 4: be coming up.
20:20
Speaker 3: Is there any other music blew out? I mean outside
20:23
Speaker 3: of working with Xile, do you have anything else on
20:24
Speaker 3: the way.
20:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it is the same way we hit
20:28
Speaker 1: this year, We're trying to hit next year, so it's
20:31
Speaker 1: gonna be stacked.
20:31
Speaker 3: You and Evidence got more shit coming.
20:33
Speaker 1: Me and Evidence. We're talking about it about bringing up
20:36
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
20:37
Speaker 3: You know what you should since you kind of wanted
20:38
Speaker 3: to be a producer, you should say fuck it and
20:41
Speaker 3: flip flip the script the next album. Huh your beats
20:44
Speaker 3: his wraps. I like it there it is. Man. Appreciate
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Speaker 3: you guys.
20:49
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, appreciate you. Mall in xile Connor to be here,
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Speaker 1: bro Boom