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The Late Debate | 11 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Pay.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Denika to Georgio and kayleb Bond.
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  Speaker 2: How are you both?
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  Speaker 4: This evening excellent, A much better for your company.
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  Speaker 2: I would have thought so, Cale. How are you doing, Denis?
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  Speaker 5: It's very polite. That was a very polite answer. Well,
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  Speaker 5: very polite people on this panel, as you can see,
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  Speaker 5: very very kind to one another.
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  Speaker 1: Only win a paid to do so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, all right, let's see what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what we're going to talk about. Clive Palmer announces
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  Speaker 3: he'll run for office at the next election, but just
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  Speaker 3: how much money.
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  Speaker 2: Does it take to garner enough votes?
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  Speaker 3: Victoria's nightmare continues, with the state labor government now using
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  Speaker 3: taxpayer money to pay people who had agreed to sit
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  Speaker 3: on public boards as volunteers, and former Kiss frontman Gene
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  Speaker 3: Simmons has some advice for celebrities who insist on sharing
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  Speaker 3: their political opinions. Now, the language is pretty strong, so
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  Speaker 3: I'll let you hear it straight from his.
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  Speaker 2: Mouth a little later in the show.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that shortly, But first of all,
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  Speaker 3: commission into the Bondi terror attack has been thrown into
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  Speaker 3: a spin with the shock resignation tonight of former as
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  Speaker 3: O boss Dennis Richardson. Attorney General Michelle Rowlands released a
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  Speaker 3: statement this evening saying, my Department has been notified that
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  Speaker 3: Dennis Richardson AC has resigned as Special Advisor to the
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  Speaker 3: Royal Commission into Anti Semitism and Social Cohesion. The Government
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  Speaker 3: thanks mister Richardson for his efforts to date. The Government
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  Speaker 3: will continue to support the Royal Commission to deliver its
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  Speaker 3: important work, including the delivery of the interim report by
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  Speaker 3: thirty April. The Royal Commission, which is independent of Government,
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  Speaker 3: will provide further updates in due course. Now, Dennis Richardson
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  Speaker 3: had been appointed by the government to lead a review
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  Speaker 3: of security agencies and the Federal Police. His role was
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  Speaker 3: then folded into the Royal Commission, headed by Virginia Bell.
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  Speaker 3: At the time, Anthony Albanzi insisted that Dennis Richardson would
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  Speaker 3: be central to examining the performance of security agencies in
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  Speaker 3: the lead up to Australia's worst terror attack.
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  Speaker 6: Three Examine the circumstances surrounding the Bondai terrorist attack on
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  Speaker 6: the fourteenth of December twenty twenty five and the work
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  Speaker 6: of Dennis Richardson will be central to this.
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  Speaker 3: But it's being reported in the Australian tonight that Richardson
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  Speaker 3: has quit over concerns about his ability to contribute to
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  Speaker 3: the Royal Commission. Bearing in mind this appointment was only
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  Speaker 3: what three months old.
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  Speaker 2: This is shock news tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It's odd.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's scant detail as we go to it
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  Speaker 4: tonight of why this has actually happened. The Royal Commissioner
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  Speaker 4: and the Minister have given us no detail of why
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  Speaker 4: he has left. That will presumably come out in the
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  Speaker 4: wash tomorrow. But it does seem odd that being involved
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  Speaker 4: in what, at the moment is one of the most
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  Speaker 4: important inquiries that this country has had in some time
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  Speaker 4: in light of the worst terror attack in this country's history.
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  Speaker 1: A man of.
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  Speaker 4: Mister Richardson, Mister Richardson, I should say, a man of
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  Speaker 4: his standing and his expertise, as the Prime Minister said,
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  Speaker 4: should be central to an inquiry like this. So it
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  Speaker 4: seems strange that you would part way into your post
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  Speaker 4: leave it, and particularly so early on in proceedings. It's
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  Speaker 4: not as though he's been there to be able to
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  Speaker 4: do a great deal of work yet at this point,
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  Speaker 4: so it raises many questions about why he would want
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  Speaker 4: to go.
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  Speaker 5: What has led to them, Well, it is bizarre. And
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  Speaker 5: my question now is because the Royal Commission was set
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  Speaker 5: to introduce to release its interim report in April, so
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  Speaker 5: next month, will that now have an impact on the timeline?
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  Speaker 5: It's very quick, by the way, which is that I
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  Speaker 5: thought the same thing. It is quite quick given you
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  Speaker 5: know the terms of reference. They're quite broad as well,
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  Speaker 5: and he is one of the very best, i mean
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  Speaker 5: security bosses around the country. Was saying, if you're going
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  Speaker 5: to put somebody in charge of this, this is the
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  Speaker 5: man that you want. So it is very very strange.
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  Speaker 5: But he has said he had concerns about his ability
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  Speaker 5: or this is what it's understood, to sufficiently contribute to
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  Speaker 5: the Commission's work. And there was an article that just
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  Speaker 5: got put up on the Australian newspaper saying that multiple
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  Speaker 5: senior figures within the Jewish community had met with him
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  Speaker 5: only a couple of days ago and there was certainly
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  Speaker 5: no indication of his resignation. But this would worry many
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  Speaker 5: within that community because obviously over the last couple of
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  Speaker 5: months he's built a sense of trust with them, going
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  Speaker 5: to speak with them, it would sort of throw this
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  Speaker 5: into doubt. Now you just don't know, and I actually
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  Speaker 5: think we should find out what's happened here. Why has
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  Speaker 5: he suddenly pulled the pin? I think actually the public
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  Speaker 5: deserved to know, given that this was a major terrorist incident.
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  Speaker 3: He was contacted by The Australian tonight and declined to comment.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if this has got to do with the
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  Speaker 3: fact that he was not appointed a co commissioner with
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  Speaker 3: Virginia Bell with those powers to then really properly investigate
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  Speaker 3: security agencies and police, and perhaps he feels like that
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  Speaker 3: really has restricted his ability to do the job. That
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  Speaker 3: was some of the commentary when the Royal Commission was
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  Speaker 3: first announced and he was not included as co commissioner.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's really there are only two possibilities that
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  Speaker 4: seem plausible. One is major health concern I can't do
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  Speaker 4: the job anymore, or I felt like I wasn't able
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  Speaker 4: to do the job to the fullness that I believe
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  Speaker 4: it deserves, because otherwise, why would you walk out of
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  Speaker 4: being part of this Royal Commission? As I say, one
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  Speaker 4: of the most important this country has had and probably
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  Speaker 4: will ever have.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we certainly hope for more details tomorrow. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to be fascinating to find out what is actually going
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  Speaker 3: on there all right. In other news, the AFL is
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  Speaker 3: set to overhaul its illicit drugs policy after complaints that
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  Speaker 3: the current system is too lax. Now, the first change
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  Speaker 3: is that drug tests will involve players hair rather than urine.
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  Speaker 3: That enables doctors to detect drug use over a much
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  Speaker 3: longer period. The second change is that when players test positive,
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  Speaker 3: they'll be managed by the AFL rather than by their
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  Speaker 3: club doctor. Now that's important because it will stop clubs
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  Speaker 3: hiding or failing to report positive tests. Players caught in
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  Speaker 3: the new system with drugs will be required to undergo
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  Speaker 3: an education process as well as additional testing, and failure
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  Speaker 3: to comply will result in the AFL suspending them from competition.
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  Speaker 3: What's particularly interesting to me is that news of a
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  Speaker 3: player's positive test will be kept private within AFL headquarters
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  Speaker 3: and shared only with the club's doctor. No one else
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  Speaker 3: will know so long as they follow the process, and
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  Speaker 3: so that protects the privacy of players while they go
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  Speaker 3: through that rehabilitation.
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  Speaker 2: I like this, DANEAKA. I think this is a good plan.
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  Speaker 3: We're dealing with young men who are not always the
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  Speaker 3: brightest or the most well behaved. It gives them a
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  Speaker 3: chance to deal with issues they've got in privacy. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't compromise the AFL because if they don't follow the process,
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  Speaker 3: they don't play.
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  Speaker 2: Clubs aren't involved. I like it.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I actually think that they should be made public.
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  Speaker 5: I look, firstly, what I'll say about this new policy,
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  Speaker 5: I'm surprised that it wasn't introduced many years ago. I
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  Speaker 5: think this is absolutely welcome because it was a three
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  Speaker 5: strikes rule initially. When you think about it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm from Perth. I know. I was a
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  Speaker 5: reporter when the Ben Cousins saga, the former captain of
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  Speaker 5: the West Coast Eagles, happened, and I remember him saying
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  Speaker 5: that he was high on ice speed and cocaine. So
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  Speaker 5: what he would do is organize his vendors around when
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  Speaker 5: he knew he was about to get drug tested, so
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  Speaker 5: he would plan it out to make sure it was
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  Speaker 5: weeded out of his system before he would have this test.
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  Speaker 5: But he always said, because of the three strikes and
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  Speaker 5: you're out policy, he thought, well, even if I got
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  Speaker 5: caught once, it doesn't matter because I had a couple
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  Speaker 5: more up my sleeve. So it's I guess if you
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  Speaker 5: are a user of drugs and you're playing at an
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  Speaker 5: elite level, you can get around it right now. So
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  Speaker 5: I think this is absolutely fantastic, But I do not
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  Speaker 5: agree with the fact that they should be kept private
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  Speaker 5: and their names not released to the public. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 5: but you are many of them on multimillion dollar contracts, right.
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  Speaker 5: Sponsors have invested a lot of money into them as players.
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  Speaker 5: They've all got private contracts, but even sponsorship for the
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  Speaker 5: club themselves, you bring your club into disrepute when you
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  Speaker 5: carry on like this. You know the consequences of it.
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  Speaker 5: You deserve to be punished, and you deserve to have
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  Speaker 5: your name out there. And don't forget as well. Members.
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  Speaker 5: Members are paying a lot of money, and you demand
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  Speaker 5: that when you are investing that sort of money, that
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  Speaker 5: the players act like the role models and the players
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  Speaker 5: that they should be in the community. So I think
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  Speaker 5: name and shame them. Learn your lesson otherwise, do not
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  Speaker 5: play at an elite level.
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  Speaker 3: You say you don't want the club to be brought
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  Speaker 3: into disrepute, isn't naming and shaming them, bringing the club
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  Speaker 3: into disrepute.
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  Speaker 2: If they do well with it privately, they kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of brought the club into disrepute by behaving that way,
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  Speaker 4: haven't they.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if they deal with it sound ivately and get
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  Speaker 3: the person back on the right track, isn't that better
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  Speaker 3: for everybody? The player doesn't lose face, the club isn't
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  Speaker 3: embarrassed everybody, can I think another?
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  Speaker 4: It depends on the circumstance, right, Like if you I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you've got a player who clearly is just not
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  Speaker 4: interested in cleaning themselves up. And look, I understand young
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  Speaker 4: men who earn a lot of money, and like we're
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  Speaker 4: talking young young like eighteen years old, and it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, here's minimum two hundred grand a year, a
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  Speaker 4: hell a position to be in, and it is very
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  Speaker 4: easy to fall into the wrong hands and hang around
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  Speaker 4: with the wrong people. And you've got to spend the
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  Speaker 4: money on something. And we know that many of.
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  Speaker 1: Them decided to spend it on illicit drugs on the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Now, they're not the only people we should note who
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  Speaker 4: are spending their money on illicit drugs on the weekend,
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  Speaker 4: but they are in the public eye and they are
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  Speaker 4: answerable to the members of the club who pay membership,
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  Speaker 4: and they are there to represent them. So I kind of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, at the risk of getting splinters in my bum,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of see where you're both coming from. Because, yes,
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  Speaker 4: if a player genuinely has an addiction problem, you'd want
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  Speaker 4: to give them the best opportunity to get over that,
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  Speaker 4: and simply naming and shaming them probably doesn't achieve that.
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  Speaker 4: But there is also a level of responsibility to the
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  Speaker 4: club and the board of the club and the people
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  Speaker 4: who pay membership to the club.
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  Speaker 3: So the way it would work is they go through
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  Speaker 3: an education process, they get more regular testing, and provided
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  Speaker 3: they comply with that and get through it, well, they play.
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  Speaker 2: On and all is good. No one ever knows.
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  Speaker 3: They're not embarrassed that they're able to deal with whatever
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  Speaker 3: issues they've got. If they fail to complete that process,
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  Speaker 3: then they would be suspended. Then there would have to
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  Speaker 3: be some sort of public acknowledgment because everyone will be
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  Speaker 3: asking how come our star players not taking the field
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  Speaker 3: this month. Then there would need to be an explanation
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 5: No, but the problem is is that you take on
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  Speaker 5: a big responsibility when you get drafted.
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  Speaker 3: ABAFL never responsibility to these young guys.
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  Speaker 2: If they've clearly got problems.
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  Speaker 3: Let's try and get this guy back on the right
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  Speaker 3: track without publicly shaming him may make his situation in
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  Speaker 3: his own mental health even worse.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but again, and you've sort of just answered it.
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  Speaker 5: If a player just vanishes for six weeks because they've
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  Speaker 5: been suspended by the club, you don't think people are
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  Speaker 5: going to go, oh, where's Jack Smith gone?
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  Speaker 2: Is That's what I'm saying. Then you have to give
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  Speaker 2: an explanation.
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  Speaker 5: I think that you would pick it up. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: especially in an AFL state like Victoria when people live
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  Speaker 5: and breathe AFL and same in wa. You know, if
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  Speaker 5: you're a member of the club, you're going to be
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  Speaker 5: asking questions, well, where has he gone? He's just been drafted,
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  Speaker 5: or he's a star player, where's the foot, where's the forward,
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  Speaker 5: where's the defense? You're going to ask questions and what
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  Speaker 5: the club's going to go? Oh with taking time off
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  Speaker 5: for his health? No, sorry, I think that you need
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  Speaker 5: to say, look, you know, this is what's happened. I
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  Speaker 5: think be upfront, teach a less teach the player a lesson.
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  Speaker 5: You train your life for this one moment, and then
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  Speaker 5: what you bugger it up because you make stupid decisions
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  Speaker 5: over the weekend or in the week I'm sorry, you
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  Speaker 5: don't deserve to play. Then that's how I look at it.
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  Speaker 5: You shall deserve the opportunity to represent your state.
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  Speaker 3: You only suspend that if you fail to commit. Correct,
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  Speaker 3: So if you fail to commit to the education process
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  Speaker 3: and you fail multiple drug tests, well then you suspend it.
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  Speaker 2: Then people would notice.
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  Speaker 3: Then there would have to be an explanation, and the
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  Speaker 3: explanation would be owed to the public, to the sponsors
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  Speaker 3: of the star players not playing. But if he's going
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  Speaker 3: through the process and doing all the right things to
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  Speaker 3: get himself on track, could they not just do that
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  Speaker 3: privately and let the guy get on with it without
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  Speaker 3: the public exposure. Bearing in mind, as you said, the
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  Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen twenty year.
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  Speaker 5: Olds, they're adults. They're adults.
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  Speaker 2: The male brain doesn't fully develop until us and.
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  Speaker 1: We should know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there are different degrees of misbehavior, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're acting like an idiot in public,
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  Speaker 4: it's probably rather different to doing it in private because
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  Speaker 4: it does become necessarily a public issue.
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  Speaker 1: But you both mentioned embarrassment.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I'll tell you who ought to be embarrassed CNN. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know whether you've seen this story over in
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  Speaker 4: the US over the weekend or a few days ago,
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  Speaker 4: there was a protest held out the front of the
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  Speaker 4: official home of the Mayor of New York's or on
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  Speaker 4: ma'm darney. This was by a bloke called Jake Lang. Now,
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  Speaker 4: he's an online influencer.
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  Speaker 1: He had a.
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  Speaker 4: Protest of twenty odd people. It was very small, against
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  Speaker 4: what he calls the Islamification of New York. There was
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  Speaker 4: then a counter protest which consisted of about one hundred and.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty five people who rocked up to have a go.
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  Speaker 4: And in the midst of all of this, there were
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  Speaker 4: a couple of bombs thrown during this protest.
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  Speaker 1: Now, these bombs were allegedly.
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  Speaker 4: Thrown by people who were inspired by ISIS, so it
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  Speaker 4: is in effect a terror attack or an attempted terror attack.
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  Speaker 4: The authorities in New York have said that one of
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  Speaker 4: these alleged defenders that they spoke to afterwards obviously said
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  Speaker 4: that he wanted it to be quote even bigger than
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  Speaker 4: what happened at the Boston marathon in twenty thirteen. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is an allegedly ISIS inspired attempted terror attack.
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  Speaker 4: So how did CNN report on it? When they put
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  Speaker 4: up a post on x they said, two Pennsylvania teenagers
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  Speaker 4: crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could
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  Speaker 4: have been a normal day enjoying the city during abnormally
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  Speaker 4: warm weather. I mean, I don't know, stands at the
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  Speaker 4: start of some sort of novel, hasn't it. But in
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  Speaker 4: less than an hour their lives would be drastically changed,
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  Speaker 4: as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs
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  Speaker 4: during an anti Muslim protest outside Maya z Or and
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  Speaker 4: Mum Danny's house. Here's what we know so far. What
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  Speaker 4: we did know is that it was allegedly linked to ISIS.
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  Speaker 4: There was no mention of that. I mean, they opened
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  Speaker 4: it up as though it were just, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: couple of blokes to start enjoying the warm weather in
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  Speaker 4: New York, just a couple of normal old fellas. And
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  Speaker 4: there they were at an anti Muslim protest and they
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  Speaker 4: found some bombs.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what could be going on there.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, that's not what happened, So CNN had to
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  Speaker 4: correct at the issue. This groveling apology a post regarding
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  Speaker 4: the two individuals arrested for throwing homemade bombs outside of
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  Speaker 4: New York City Maya Zor and Mum Danny's home failed
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  Speaker 4: to reflect the gravity of the incident, thereby breaching the
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  Speaker 4: editorial stand as we require for all our reporting. It
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  Speaker 4: has therefore been deleted. Maybe you just shouldn't have posted
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  Speaker 4: it in the first place. For his part to the Mayor,
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  Speaker 4: Saor and Mam Dannie, what did he have to say?
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  Speaker 7: On Saturday, a protest was held outside Gracie Mansion, where
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  Speaker 7: I lived with my wife Rama. Neither of us were
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  Speaker 7: home at the time. This was a vile protest rooted
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  Speaker 7: in white supremacy, entitled stop the Islamic Takeover of New
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  Speaker 7: York City. I'm the first Muslim mayor of our city.
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  Speaker 7: Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing new to me, nor is
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  Speaker 7: it anything new for the one million or so Muslim
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  Speaker 7: New Yorkers who know this city as our home.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they threw bombs at the front of his place,
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  Speaker 4: and the first thing he's on about his anty Muslim hate.
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  Speaker 4: As opposed to the fact that this was allegedly inspired
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  Speaker 4: by ISIS, CNN can't acknowledge the fact that it was
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  Speaker 4: allegedly inspired by ISIS. It was at an anti Muslim rally.
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  Speaker 4: It's all very strange, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the New York mayor is almost setting the scene
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  Speaker 3: such that you would feel some sympathy for the ISIS
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  Speaker 3: inspired allegedly bomb throwers, because you know, there was all
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  Speaker 3: this Islamophobia going on out the front of his house.
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  Speaker 3: So of course they reacted. How could they not react?
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  Speaker 3: That seems to be what he's doing in that press conference.
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  Speaker 3: As for C and N, I mean, I always like
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  Speaker 3: to know whether it was, you know, seasonally warm or
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  Speaker 3: abnormally warm when a terror.
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  Speaker 2: Attack takes place. So I appreciated their.
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  Speaker 3: Reporting, But they were protecting alleged ISIS members and indeed
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: humanizing these alleged terrorists, saying that you know, they'd come
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: from New York, these teenagers, they'd crossed into the state
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: that it was war. You know that they're It's almost
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: like the report of the toll of the obituary that
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: appeared in the New York Yes Times. Yeah, where they
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: talked about how he had a warm smile. That was
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: the Washington Post and Washington Post and an interest in
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: literature including Lamas Arabin and you're humanizing someone who is
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: effectively a demon.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Well, firstly, I would say, welcome to New York.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I thought that everything was going to be safe and
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: free under man Danny. But yet here we are, and
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: this happened, ironically, writes out right outside of Gracie Mansion
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: where he lived. You know, the liberal media in the
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: US has conducted themselves in an absolute chronic disgrace. I
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: mean they've been like this ever since Donald Trump was
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: re elected, but in particular in the last few weeks.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: It has been appalling the way that they have described
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: this incident, like there was a warm, sunny afternoon, a
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: couple of bombs were thrown, but no biggie. At least
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: the weather was good. The bias that was inserted from
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: these journalists, it was if that they were they were
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: writing it from their own personal bias. They didn't want
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: to actually deal with the facts. That's not journalism, and
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: they should be sacked. I actually think that I think
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: there was two journalists involved in this. They should be
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: They should be absolutely sacked. But you're right. I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: going to mention as well the Washington Post where they
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: described the eye of Tola having a bushy Beard. The
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: New York Post did calld him a hardline cleric, as
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: New York Times. Yeah, sorry, The New York Times apologies.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: In New York Times called him a hardline cleric. This
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: is not journalism, but they always and for Mam Danny,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, this could have been a serious terrorist incident
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that they're very lucky that these bombs didn't detonate. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: for him to come out and say Islamophobia instead of
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: in the very first instance, calling this out and saying
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: that we do not accept this just goes to show
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: where his biases lay lie as well.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine if CNN had existed a few hundred
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: years ago, they would have said, Abraham Lincoln's wife had
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a lovely night at the theater aside from an unfortunate
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: incident halfway through the show.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: That's the way they would have reported it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Indeed, someone went on Twitter and gave this example of
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: what CNN are prone to do. They made this up,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: but it's not bad at all. Two Japanese naval aviators
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: crossed into Hawaiian water Sunday morning for what could have
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: been a normal day of routine training during unusually clear weather,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: but in less than an hour their lives were drastically
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: changed as the pair would be caught in the crossfire
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: of a sudden massive naval engagement at Pearl Harbor.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Here's what we know so far.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: CNN, of course, the network that famously had a reporter
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: describe a riot happening right behind him as a mostly
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: peaceful process protest.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So they have form in this Veneaka.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it tells you everything that you need to know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: doesn't it. Now you might recall last night we brought
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you the story in the UK where the Labor government
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: over there has introduced a new definition for anti Muslim hostility.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Of course it used to be Islamophobia, but this is
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: apparently a new definition. Well, it seems that nothing is
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: safe now, nothing at all is safe. In fact, schools
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: are being targeted. Now have a look at this children's drawings.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I repeat, children's drawings could be blasphemous under Islamic as
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: under Islamic law. Schools have been warned and apparently it
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: is a offensive. So basically Labor has released what they're
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: calling a new advice and they're targeting classrooms and will
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: just bring up exactly where the problems lie. One a
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: three dimensional figurative imagery of humans is considered now adultrous.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I've never heard of that word adultrous by some Muslims. Two,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: it is very important that the school understands this and
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: is also careful not to ask its students to reproduce
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: images of Jesus as well as a prophet Muhammad or
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: other figures considered to be prophets in Islam. Some Muslim
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: pupils may not wish to draw the human figure. In Islam,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: music is traditionally limited to the human voice and non
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: tunable percussion instruments. Schools should listen to any concerns, discuss
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: the place of music in the curriculum, and ensure that
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: students are not asked to join in songs that conflict
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: with their religious beliefs. So drawing percussion and music may
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: be offensive to some Muslim students. I mean, where on
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: earth are we heading to in society now? My first
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: point that I would make on this, So this is
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: just guidelines at the moment this is happening in the
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: North of England. The first point I would make whoever
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: said diversity is our strength, whoever said that multiculturalism is
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: our strength when you've got a majority Christian country or
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: one that was once a very proud Christian country being
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: told that maybe drawings of God or drawings of what
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: is in the Bible might be offensive. I mean, if
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: you are a Christian, I would be so offended in
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: that country. What are they going to ban Bibles next?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Are they going to Are they going to go that far?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: But this is exactly what happens when mass migration fails,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: when you're bringing in people from other cultures whose cultures
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: do not represent your own, and then suddenly it starts
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: infiltrating in the classrooms. You know, you've got a problem
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: when young kids are being indoctrinated. And it's always the
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: young kids that start first, right, because it's easy. It's
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: easy to indoctrinate children. And just recently as well, UK
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: label was doing a diversity drive in the regions to
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: make the regions less white. It's like this reverse racism,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: but that's considered okay.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned that the UK's majority Christians. It's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: actually an officially Christian country. The Church of England is
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: the official religion, right And you know, I remember as
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: a kid going to school and you know, we'd do
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Easter stuff and there was a Jehovah's witness kid in
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the class who would sit out of that stuff, And
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: that was kind of like, whatever, this is not official
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: curriculum business we're doing here. But when you start talking
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: about stuff that is actually part of the school curriculum,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: like music, for instance, in drama or whatever it is,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: and music is part of the curriculum, you can't just
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: start dictating that because my religion sees this, it means
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I can no longer.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Adhere to the rules of the curriculum.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Would you expect if I moved to or any of
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: us moved to a Muslim country, that we would be
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: able to turn around and say, oh, well, you know, actually,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: back in my homeland, this is how we do it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: None of my religion, and this is how we do it,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: and that they would concede. Of course they wouldn't concede. No,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: and nor should they have to concede. It's their country.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: You play by their rules, and surely if you're in
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: the UK, you play by their rules too.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I mean this idea that we have.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: To be very careful about whether kids are drawing the
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: prophet Muhammad or drawing Jesus in a classroom. We live
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: in a country and people in the UK live in
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: a country where.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: You have the right to do that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I don't give two hoots. I couldn't give a rats
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: toss bag. As Malcolm Blat once said, what your religion is,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: that's how we operate. If you don't like it, go
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: somewhere else.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: No one ever considers the fact that these problems occur
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: largely in Christian countries in the West, not in other
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: nations that you mentioned. And the reason is religion, because
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the Christian religion is actually the most tolerant religion that
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: the world has ever known. That's why we get these
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: issues in Western Christian nations. To your point, Daniki, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: said tolerance has gone too far and maybe this is
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: about being overly tolerant, or maybe it's about being prudent,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because this advice is being given not right across the UK,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: but in certain parts of the UK North where there
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: are particularly high Muslim populations, including in one town where
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one, a religious studies teacher showed
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: some photographs of the prophet Mohammed. It'sn't it funny? I
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: just called him the prophet Muhammed rather than just Muhammed.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Because we've been so trained that he must be spoken
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: about even by people who aren't Muslims.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: As the prophet.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: He showed a photo of Mohammed in class and there
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: were riots outside the school gate, threats of death. That
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: school teacher has not been able to return to work,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and five years later he is still in hiding. So
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, is this advice because England have lost
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: their mind to become so tolerant, or is it because
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: they are thoroughly intimidated and they're trying to save teachers
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: from well, who knows what could happen if you breach
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: some of these prohibitions that Islam proscribed.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Actually, that's a really good point, and I reckon it
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: is the life. I think that they are absolutely terrified
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of any repercussions. But that is a problem, right, and
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: it goes and again it goes to the heart of
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the problem mass migration. Multiculturalism is not a strength when
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: you're bringing in too many different cultures who are entirely
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: different and maybe do not in some aspects fit in
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: with a liberal Western democracy, and all of a sudden
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: they've got no interest in assimilating. So you you're being
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: told that you have to fit in with their culture
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: instead of them having to fit in with your culture,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: and that is wrong.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And that being the case, you'll remember these comments a
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: few weeks ago from Jim Radcliffe, the co owner of
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Manchester United, that he was a how down for at.
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: The time afford you can't have an economy with nine
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: million people on benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming in.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, the UK's being colonized. It's costing too much money.
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: It will cause, it will cause the UK has been
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: gone immigrants, really, isn't it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I think he may be due an apology.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: He may have a point, or at least something that
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: should be talked about. Interesting developments in Iran with the
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: announcement of the new Supreme Leader.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: He's kept a very low profile up until now.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: No one had heard about Mataba Komeni, the fifty six
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: year old son of the Ayatoll who's now in charge.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: But he hasn't been sitting around doing nothing for the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: past fifty six years. While Iranians struggle under economic sanctions,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the new Supreme Leader has been doing very very well.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: In fact, it's come to light he owns about one
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty million dollars in luxury property that's in
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: London alone. In fact, he's got a couple of mansions
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: on Bishop's Avenue. Other people to live on Bishop's Avenue,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the late George Michael, Jamie Oliver, Kate Moss, Justin Bieber,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: They've all got or had homes in this street.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Gb News went to.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: See if they could find a Supreme leader on Bishop's Avenue.
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: So we're here in North London, Bishops Avenue aka Billionaires Row,
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: where we understand that the new Supreme Leader, Moushitaba Khamani
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: owns another of properties. We're going to knock on those properties,
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: ask some questions and also ask locals if they've seen
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: this man.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, so there's no one available right.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: Now, Okay, it's just that they have links to the
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: Iran Supreme Leader and we just wanted to ask if
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: they're comfortable with this guy before.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Personally, I think it's a just grace.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Is anyone there.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: We like to talk to the Supreme Leader of Iran.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Of course we shouldn't single him out.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: It's not exactly Robinson Krosso when it comes to Tellityrians
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: making mirry while the population suffer. The Hamas leadership famously
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: were very very wealthy. In fact, their political leader who
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: was assassinated in twenty twenty four, but he had reportedly
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: four billion dollars worth of property and assets. And if
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you want to go back a little further, Gaddafi was
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I think the richest of all the dictators, had about
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: two hundred billion dollars worth of assets when he died.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: It's amazing how they enriched themselves, isn't it. You know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: we'll have a revolution so we can do the best
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: thing by the people. The people being me, of course,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: you know I have money to make here. But amazing
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: that this was allowed to happen in the first place.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I mean he's done it through sort of complicated system
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: of trust and these shell companies, and then he's got
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: this proxy bloke in England who buys the properties for him,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And on it goes.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So, yes, it is somewhat difficult to work out. But
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: now that they know it's there, surely Sir Kiostarma has
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: to simply say, well, this, this is not on, We've
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: got to do something about it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: He can't reckon, Kiostarma would be you won't even supply
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: an aircraft.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Strip for the US to use.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he should, I mean that they just should
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: do something about this. You've got a country that one
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: of your allies is at war with. This guy has
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: just been made the leader, and you're allowing him to
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: own land in your country for financial gain.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: That's not on No, it's not. But I wonder, now,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: shouldn't they be seizing these properties? I just wonder what
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: the what the procol would be. You'd have to seize them, right,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: even one of them's next to the Israeli embassy. That
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: go figure out how on earth is that available. The
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: other thing I was thinking is, you know, you're right,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: these dictators have got so much money. But don't forget
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: as well. I mean, the Democrats were sending so much
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: money to Iran. This is under Obama and the Biden administration. Well,
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I wonder where some of that money has gone to.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I'd like to know who's taken the money.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: You've actually given me a great idea. They seize the property, right,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: then what do you do with it? You can sell it,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I suppose, and put it into the coffers of the government,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: or you could get together five or six Iranian female
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: soccer players in Sydney, put him on a plane to
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: London and give them brand.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: That would be that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Is that is not a bad idea at all. All right,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: let's talk about some stuff at home, shall we. In
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: today's political news. Yes, James just said, I thought it
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: was going to be the dope of the days thing
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: there Actually no. But I'll tell you who's back. It's
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Clive Palmer. Yes, Clive Palmer, of course, who was once
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: in the Lower House, now says he's going to have
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: another tiltatted end along the way.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: He's lost some weight.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: I've lost a lot of weight. Can't you see that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: I've been on a kito diet. I've been running right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: I've been reinvigorated by not having too much sugar and
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: too much carbohydrates. I think that I've been sold on that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: Every day I feel better, I feel stronger, and every
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: day I watch the appalling situation of politics in Canberra.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There you go. I mean the guys on a diet.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: He's reinvigorated, he's off the sugar and now he wants
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: to get back to Canberra.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder what could have motivated him. Of course, he'd
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: said this just a few weeks weeks ago as.
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: A fifth wealthiest Australian and former life member of the
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: Liberal Party and spokesman for the National Party. I can
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: tell you the Liberal Party is a party full of wankers.
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: It would be if they could be. That's a good
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: quote for you, Phil, A party full of wankers.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: So he said, I'm going to clean the joint out
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: of the wankers. Let me back into the building of
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: interesting to.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: See how he goes. I mean, you know, he's foreshiated.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: This for the next federal election right when he had
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: one last year, so were still a few years away
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: from this. And last time you'll recall he spent sixty
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: million dollars on his campaign for the Trumpet of Patriots
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: says the party was then called and in return for that,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: they got one point nine to one percent of primary
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: votes in the lower House and two point six percent
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: in the Senate.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So good luck to him, I suppose.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Do you imagine if they'd spent one hundred million dollars
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: they might have got two and a half.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Themselves. That it's a bit a bit more, hasn't he
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: done this?
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Didn't we go through this circus back in twenty thirteen,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: And to be fair, back in twenty thirteen they got
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: quite a few people elected, and then it all fell
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: apart very very quickly and became pretty much the joke
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of Canberra. Why someone with all of that money would
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: choose to try to get into parliament as an individual
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: rather than use your money to have influence behind the scenes,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I do not know.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's all about Clive, isn't it. That's
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: the thing. It's always ego. It's always about Clive. I
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: mean you said goes to his back again, it's actually
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: half of Clive now that he's lost on his Keto
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: diet of high fat, low carbohydro.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Does anyone remember when he went on Kitchen Cabinet. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: think it was on Kitchen Cabinet with Annabel Krab on
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: ABC many years ago, ten years ago. And he's at
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: his Koolham resort and he goes around for breakfast at
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: one of the cafes at the resort. His breakfast was
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: two sausage rolls.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I wonder if he's still on the that's why now,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that's why he's on the keto. That's why he's okay.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: But the problem, look the problem, I mean, the guys
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: had more comebacks, let's be honest, than John Farnham The
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: thing with Clive Palmer is he lacks total credibility, doesn't
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: he Because he's tried this by himself. He's tried with
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: the trumpet of patriots. Now he's trying to resurrect the
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: what is it, the United Australia Party Again. This is
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: what happens when you've got too much money and you
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: don't know what to do with it. Because he's failed
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: at every single bid he has had, and yet he
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: keeps coming back over and over. But all he's trying
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: to do is really, when you think about it, split
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: the Conservative vote, which would end up supporting Labor. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: mean that would be beneficial for the Labor Party in
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: the end. So you know, he can call the Liberal
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Party a bunch of wankers and claim that he has
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: liberal conservative values, Well, you're actually doing them a massive disservice.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I think this is the thing is that he's seen
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: the rise of one nation and thought, well, I kind
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: of want to get into that market. This is always
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: what I wanted to do. But there are lots of
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: people who've wanted to do that. Auline Hanson, Yeah, Pauline
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Hanson is the one who has managed to succeed in
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: doing it. But there was talk before the election last
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: year that he was trying to I think he went
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: trying to register the Pauline and Clive party like he
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: was trying to do some sort of deal to get
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: one nation in the tent with the trumpet of patriots.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Of course that didn't come up. So I think he
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: wants to be part of this movement. But someone else
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: has done it. Pauline Hanson's done it. So you're a
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: bit Johnny.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: What's the definition of in Sunday? When you do the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: same thing over different results. That's a different results.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: To be so rich? You can be that inside exactly.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: But money his.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Version of golf, right, so what he does for a
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: bit of fun and.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: He does own golf courses too. Though I will I
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: will give him applaud. It's for one thing he did
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: say today he was going to give ten grand to
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: each of the Iranian soccer players who have.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But then he challenged Angress Taylor to match it, so
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: he gave, but then turn it into a political exercise.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: So it's a bit cheap, isn't it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: It's a little bit cheap. Hey, look before we go,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: if you're the Victoria, if you're a Victoria. You're about
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: to be slugged yet again. Now the Allen government's coming
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: after you the taxpayer yet again. Have a look at this.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: If you're on a board, so specific board spots that
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: were previously on a voluntary basis just into Alan will
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: now come at you with a taxpayer funded salary of
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: fifty nine thousand dollars or up to fifty nine thousand
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: dollars and it's going to now cost the taxpayer millions.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: But you've got like ex Labor Minister Martin Pacoola, Richmond
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: FC president John O'Rourke as part of these boards, the
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Bulldog president Kylie Watson Wheeler, all now about to be paid.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: And don't forget the ex labor minister is still on
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: a pension. For goodness sake, still has a pension and
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: yet now is going to be more money. Is this
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: why they want to pay people to go and visit
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: the Apostles says basically they need money.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: There's thirty two thousand people who are volunteering on public boards.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: We're now all going to be paid and none of
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: them are asking to be paid.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Who dripped this one up?
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: I'll probably just send to herself another just In deploy,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: isn't it. She needs the money, just like she does
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: with the apostles.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we take a look at tomorrow's papers,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: so you hear all of tomorrow's news first tonight.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: That's next.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to the program. Let's take a look
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: at tomorrow's headlines. Caleb, you've got the Australian some great
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: stories on the front page.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Indeed, long arm of Tehran's terror threatens brave asylum seekers.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Fears over Tehran's deadly reach into Australia's suburbs prompted police
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: to swoop in and relocate six Iranian soccer players granted
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: humanitarian visas this week after one of their teammates abandoned
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: her asylum bid, exposing the location of the defectors Brisbane
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: safehouse oper Fears. Minister Toney Burke revealed the precaution after
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: confirming one of the two members of the Iranian Lionessa's
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: team who made the late asylum claims changed her mind
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: and contacted Iranian officials on Wednesday morning asking to be
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: picked up. The move followed advice from national security agencies
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: and came as a Sydney Court heard quote unknown person
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: overseas order and arson attack targeting one of the nation's
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: most prominent Jewish leaders to divide the Arabs and Jewish communities.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: And this sort of goes to the point of what
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: mister Burke also said today, which is that there was
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: no asylum offered to the people who were working with
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: the team because they had been deemed to be a threat. Now,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: clearly reading between the lions, what that means is that
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: they're part of the regime. They were rumored to be
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: part of the IRGC and so the influence we know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the influence that has been used by Iran in this country.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: They've had to move these girls now that the location
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: has been given out of me. You can imagine how
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: concerned they must be and how concerned Home Affairs must
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: be that Iran might seek some kind of retribution for
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: what we have done in granting them refuge.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: So we kicked the Iranian ambassador out of the country
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: because Iran funded organized a terror attack on.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: A Melbourn synagogue. Why do we still have an Iranian
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: embassy in this country?
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's really one.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Don't They all out of the place, especially when the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Australian government is so concerned that the embassy in Canberra
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: knowing where these young women are, well will.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I think that they weren't meant to know where these
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: young women are. She told them, she told them, so,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: you know, I guess you know, I don't think she
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: was to know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: We'll give it the benefit of well she told them
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: were to come and come around and get me.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean maybe she didn't. I'm saying I
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: don't think it was a purposeful thing. I think it
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: was just you.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Know, what I'm saying is the government are now so
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: worried that there could be retribution because the embassy knows.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Why do we have an Iranian embassy? Iran is clearly
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: no friend of Australia. Why are any of their officials
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: in this country.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: It is good, It is a really good point. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: before we came on air, I saw vision of the
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: women who did leave, who did leave Australia. They had
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: arrived earlier on this evening in Kuala Lumpur as they
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: make their way back to Iran, and you know, you
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: just feel for them because you don't know what the
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: journey is going to be for them. As soon as
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: they arrived back there, and a lot of them would
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: have made decisions worried out of fear of their own families,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: because there had been reports that some of the families
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: were being threatened, were even being taken hostage. I mean,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: what an impossible decision to make. And a lot of
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: them are young, you know, they're in their early twenties.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: It's just the burden that they must be carrying is
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: just horrific.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Indeed, another story on the front of the Olds tomorrow
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: the Canavan Split for good of kids. New Nationals leader
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Matt Canavan has declared his support for income tax splitting
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: as a way to create a tech system that encourages
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: parental bonds rather than a reliance on childcare, as he
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: moves to take on One Nation through a hyper Australian vision,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: including a new coal fired power stations and industry protection.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: After being elected the sixteenth Nationals leader on Wednesday morning,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Senator Canavan told The Australian that income splitting would allow
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: parents to quote spend more time with their newborn children.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: One Nation has formally adopted the policy to share the
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: tax burden among couples, but the Parliamentary Budget Office estimates
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: it would cost the budget nearly seventy billion dollars over
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: a decade. Oh, wouldn't that be a terrible thing. The
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: government would have less money. You're telling me it would
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: have to tighten its belt a little bit, and that
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: instead money would be in the hands of Australians so
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: that they can spend it and do things they would
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: prefer to do.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Outrageous. Great policy. It's a great policy.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I'm glad he's jumped on it, and I hope this
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: means that, you know, we actually see a bit of
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: real movement and gumption from the coalition.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: This is a great thing for the coalition having Canavan
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: lead the Nationals. My only criticism was that in his
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: first press conference he had to go at One Nation,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: calling them divisive and misconstruing Pauline Hanson's comments about there
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: being no good Muslims, which is not what she said.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: But Canavan repeated that I just don't think it's going
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: to help the Nationals by going after Pauline Hanson and
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: their supporters as being device of an anti Muslim because
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's true and I don't think that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the way to win back supporters is by insulting those
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: who have left you.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: But also I think that when you do call one
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: nation divisive, it only just rallies her base even more
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: as it has been proven in the past when labor
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: have gone after one nation. So I don't think those
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: sorts of insults work anymore. I think they actually work
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: at the opposite.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Direction and in terms of being divisive. If you don't
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: want to be divisive, don't be in politics, well the
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: whole idea of politics. As you say this, but I
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: say that and again, mavision.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Talking about mass migration is not being divisive. Okay. The
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: majority of Australians want to discuss mass migration, So I
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: don't think that that argument stacks up at all. All right.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: The front page of the Daily Telegraph here in Sydney,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the headline reads Clueless. Families and Communications Minister Kate Washington
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: is facing calls to resign or be sacked after the
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: guardian of New South Wales's most vulnerable children revealed she
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: was clueless that two kids in state care were living
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: with a triple murderer. Missus Washington last night insisted she
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: was not going anywhere after issuing a groveling apology for
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: not knowing serial killer Reginald Regina Arthur All is that
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: how I say the name was living under the same
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: roof as two foster children. Her department, however, had been
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: aware of the living arrangement since December.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Someone needs to get sacked over this.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: If not the Minister, then certainly a whole lot of
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: people in the Department office who allowed this to happen.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: And it only became public or it was only dealt
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: with rather after it became public on the radio.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, only on two it was revealed by Ben Fordham
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: on two GB. I mean, these are some of the
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: most vulnerable children already in foster care. How could the
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: state let these children down? It's an absolute disgrace and
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: for the minister to have no answers to serious questions
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: just as wofle just as well.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: And if the department is aware and the department has
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: not told her, as a minister, I would be in
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: there with the brooms sweeping the whole joint clean, because
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: that's the sort of stuff you ought to be briefed
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: about and told about when it happens.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's look at the Herald's son. Now, this is
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: a big story over in Victoria about Kate and Luke Sayers.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: You might remember this one Kate Sayers will escalate defamation
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: as action against a strange husband Luke with a substantiate
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: substantiative malice claim as his Dick Pick lawsuit defense was revealed. Now,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: you might remember this story from a couple of months
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: back about a photo that had been taken. Well, now
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: he has revealed that it was for medical reasons. And
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: we're limited to what we can talk about here because
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: this is before the courts, but it's certainly doing the
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: rounds of Victoria, Caleb right now.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Certainly is.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: It is one of the biggest stories in Victoria and
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: there's no sign of it going away. And you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: we're so fun watching all the Bruce Leraman defamation action
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: go on.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Remember all of that.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: We have the Victorian equivalent right here and people will
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: be paying attention on the front of the advertisers borrow
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: down in South Australia, I'm Out Chris. Former AFL star
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Chris McDermott launched his campaign with Sarah games Fair go
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: for Australian's Party with a bang, but quit with a whimper.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Via text. McDermot cited irreconcilable differences with miss Game.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Now Chrism German of course played for the Adelaide Crows
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: and he was going to contest at the state election
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: next weekend with Sarah Games fair Go for Australian's Party.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: But now all the ballot papers have been printed. He's
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: pulled out after the ballot papers have been printed, so
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: when people go to vote, he will still be the
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: fair Go candidate in the Upper House. You now have
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Sarah again, the leader of the party, telling people to
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: vote for the Liberals in the Upper House and not
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: for her own party because the guy on the ballot
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: has walked away.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: What a ridiculous city.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I just love that the party is called the fair
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Go Party and there's not much fair about this. Really Quickly,
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: on the front page of the cans Post, Pasta Power
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: reads the headline Spaghetti Church fights for right to wear
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: co Hollanders. This goes back to a story a couple
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago. An Indonesian man who moved to Australia
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago had a driver's license photo
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: taken wearing a colander on his head because he claims
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: his religion is the Spaghetti Church, which is basically a
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: piss take on actual religions. When he posted a photograph
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: of his driver's license on social media, the Queensland government
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: contacted him and said that is not legit.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You need to get another one.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: He refuses because he says it's a legitimate religion. Why
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: my religious rights being legend?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Just to find the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Absolutely there you go, all right, we're going to go
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: to a break when we come back. If you've ever
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: sort of contemplated getting one of those self driving cars,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: you may rethink that.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Decision in our next.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Well its official tennis players have replaced soccer players.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: As the prima donnas of sport.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: World number eight mirror and Riva lost the match at
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Indian Wells, and then she lost her call. First abusing
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: her racket and then have a look at the way
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: she abuses the crowd. In fact, you can see it
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: right now, and that woman can hardly believe it. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: think I'm not sure if you can catch oh, you
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: might be able to read what she said.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: She actually tells the crowd.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: If you so, When she was asked why did you
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: react like that, she said, I need to better get
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: my emotions under control.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: What an absolute soul looser. Who does that? Seriously, don't
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: take your frustrations out on the crowd, don't. Don't. I
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: just think.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Finally, something interesting happened at the tennis No, no, look
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: so boring. I missed John McEnroe.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Behavior.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It's entertainment. He was entertaining.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Remember Ivan Lyndall yet well not personally played like a robot.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Was so boring.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, look, it's not exactly Roger Federer, is it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't see feed behavior.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: And she brought the crowd into the game, and she
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: she insulted the crowd.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: She did. I'm being facetious. It was poor behavior.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: So it is very poor behavior. Now our look, Waimo,
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: which is a US driverless vehicle company, is in a
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: spot of bother after social media video captured. Have a
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: look at this. Bring this up. So this is well, okay,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: so this car, it was an autonomous taxi stopping past
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: a train station gate. Look how look where it's stopped.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: It's actually gone under the barrier, under the like within
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: centimeters of missing that train. Doesn't it make you want
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: to think trie about twice about hopping into a driver.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I've had taxi drivers like that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Well, actually, that's a good point. But they're big over
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: there because they've got the driverless ubers. Actually, I think
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: that Australia in the last couple of months has allowed
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Tesla's to go for a driverless option. So you still
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: I think you still have to be in the driver's seat,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: but it can be you don't have to be.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: It's driverless, but you've still going to have your hands
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: ready to grab radio.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: What's the point anyway, I'm not going to get on
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: board with that. You know, China will hacket and have
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: been killed or something, I suppose, but to other things
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: that might have you killed a radioactive material for instance, Well,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: how would you like to be Ricky Lee Larko who
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: was walking along the beach at Byron and.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It came across this box.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: And her and her hobby were having a look at
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: it and so what's going on here? And he attempted
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: to open it apparently until they saw the bit that
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: said Fukashima, Japan Electric and ted Co. And they thought
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: maybe we shouldn't open it, so they called the cops up.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: The cops came and took her a look at it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: They determined that it was actually a movie props so
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: there is no radioactive material in there. I'm afraid to
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: say that would have been a bit of fun.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Radio climate boxes rocked up from Fukashima and of Australia
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: very good.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Did they keep the prop I don't know. I hope
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: they kept out. That's it from us stick around. Coming
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: up is the Read the Penney Show, hosted by Caroline
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Marcus this evening.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Good night, m mm hmm.