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Episode 19: No Script, No Agenda, Just Tony & Sarah · Tony & Sarah Unscripted

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You see?
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You start. You start. You start. Hi, everyone.
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We're just talking and welcome to this episode of Tony and Sarah Unscripted.
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You know,
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it's been a while since Sarah and I just sat down and caught up with our lives.
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So that's what we're going to do tonight.
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So enjoy.
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I'm going to start asking Sarah.
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Yeah. Boy.
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Oh, boy.
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What's the matter?
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What happened? I'm going to get Italian on. You know.
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So tell me what's going on.
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Anything new and exciting?
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Let's see.
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I feel like I feel like
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I am just going, going, going, going, going.
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And I think a lot of times I use that as a almost a protection of
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I don't want to deal with maybe how I'm feeling or things that are feeling.
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So I just go, go, go.
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So I took a new job, which I love.
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It's a big girl job.
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Oh, a big girl job.
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Finally, finally.
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So, but I do that from 11 to 4, which I was like, that's perfect, because
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I'll still have my time in the morning and still have time in the evening.
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But then I also started
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taking on teaching more classes because I teach, teach, spin and TRX now.
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Okay, so hold on for one second. Time out.
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I want you to tell the audience, what time do you do a spin class?
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I know 530. In the morning.
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I know in the morning.
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But, Tony, I have done that on a Wednesday morning
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at 530 for probably 11 or 12 years.
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What time do you get up? Three.
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No, I get up at 430.
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So on a on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday
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I teach at 530 in the morning and it's either spin or T-Rex.
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And then I took on a Thursday morning class a little later,
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a little bit more manageable.
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830. Oh, yeah.
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You can handle that.
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And then I teach Saturday mornings.
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So here I am, loving this new job that I got,
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but and I still have
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the teaching classes, which I've taken more of.
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And then Alex, of course, of course.
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And then the family. Right.
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Just just being a mom.
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So I'm trying to figure out how to kind of balance everything.
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Yeah.
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Because work and work and life balance is super important.
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Yeah. But let me ask you a question.
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So when you get up at four.
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3030.
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When you get up at 430
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to do your class, that means you work from 430 to 4.
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Really that day.
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Yeah. Probably. Right. That's a long time. Yeah I suppose.
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But here's the funny thing is I need my sleep.
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So if I don't have a good night's sleep
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and I'm a 430, say my class is done by 630.
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6:45. I'm home around seven. I'll sleep.
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I'll go on the couch and sleep for like, an hour.
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Oh, wow.
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So that I can then feel okay for the rest of the day.
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Because otherwise I'll be absolutely exhausted.
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So I figure out how to do it.
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And then we just, I say celebrated.
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But that's not the right word.
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We just had Cameron's one year since his stroke.
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Yeah.
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And that was very emotional.
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More than I thought it would be for.
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For me, Cameron is like myself and Cameron's partner
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always say we just want Cameron to cry.
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It would be great if he would just cry once in a while.
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Like I made this what I thought was a really good emotional video for him,
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which kind of all the pictures and videos you're in it actually, of that
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of that time in his life and I would say like,
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this is I'd say that this is when you were going to rehab and,
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you know, this is, you know, all this stuff.
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So and it wasn't I mean, not even a slight tier.
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Nothing.
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And his partner was there and his partner almost cried.
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And I'm like, let's can you just just
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just pinch him or something just to get some sort of emotion?
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But it might be because he lived it.
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Yeah, probably.
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I mean, you just said to me that you think you fill up your day
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so that you don't have to deal with your shit.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, sometimes the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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He might not want to get emotional.
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I mean, the celebration of his life was what you did.
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And that's exactly.
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That's the way to say it. Right. The celebration of life.
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How far? He's far.
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He's come.
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My God, I remember walking into that ICU, I.
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I could not believe that in a week.
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The turnaround.
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I mean, he was real.
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I I've never seen anybody in that state, you know, intubated
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and didn't really kind of know like.
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Yeah, man, that was close.
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That was a close call.
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Yeah.
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And, yeah, it was way too close.
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So. But he's doing. Yeah.
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Which, as you said, and my brother said, it seems a lot longer.
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And I think it's because of everything.
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It wasn't just that, like my son when he had a car accident.
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A terrible car accident. My middle child.
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It was like it just happened then.
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And then everything else got better afterwards.
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But for Cameron, it was like it was that.
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And then it was putting his skull back in, and then it was gamma knife,
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and then it was seizure after seizure after seizure.
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So it's a continuous thing. Yeah. And
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when people ask me, how is Cameron?
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I say, you know, Joe and I never know how to answer that
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because we're like, well, he's good, but he had a stroke.
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His life is forever altered.
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And he's it's been a year now, so most of what he's going to get back,
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he's got back. But oh really.
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He's got you know he's still cognitively it's
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so difficult for him as far as he's his short term memory.
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He's struggling being in person at school, at college.
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So he's looking to switch to online.
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And what I said to him yesterday was I love the camera doesn't give up.
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I love that Cameron doesn't say, you know what?
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Forget this. Yeah.
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I just don't want to do it right now.
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I don't want to be a social worker anymore. I don't.
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He's like, okay, this is really hard.
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I need to figure something out to do. And so that's what he's doing.
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He's switching him and his brother, who loves to do research.
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His oldest brother, he's researching what college he can go to to do
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completely online, to do the social work, to get the social work degree.
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Yeah. And
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that's what I think
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impresses me so much about Cameron is that he has never given up. No.
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And a lot of people, because he says to me, what do what do you expect?
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What do you think I would do?
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I said, Cameron, do you know how many people would struggle to get out of bed,
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give anything, they would give in to it.
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So, so he's good.
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He's he's really good.
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And then, you know, like,
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I, I struggle to say life is good right now.
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I, I, I worry in saying that.
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Why are you worried?
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Because I said because Joe and I sat in our backyard.
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Not this past August, but the August before.
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And Cameron was doing well, and he was just going to start southern.
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And my other two, Nicholas and Matthew, were doing well.
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And we'd both, you know, would come into this new house and we were liking it.
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And so we were literally sitting outside in our backyard.
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It was a beautiful day.
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And we were both like, Yeah.
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And six weeks later, Cameron had a stroke.
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Yeah, but how is life right now?
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Now it's good. Okay.
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But it was good then. To write. But living that. Yeah.
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Living the goodness. Yeah.
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You know, and I, I mean you know, hold gratitude.
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That's something that amazes me with Cameron
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is that through everything
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he had such a cheerful
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like he was happy.
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Yeah, it was hard.
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But every time he was around people,
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maybe I don't know what he did in private and maybe he was trying to be,
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I don't think I think really in his heart he was happy to be alive.
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Because what was the alternative.
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Right. You know.
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So that was just he's always he, he has always amazed me.
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Me too.
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Yeah. Me too. Yeah.
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So that so that's that I, I, I feel like life is, is good at the moment.
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I'm just taking that and I'm embracing that.
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And I'm so busy with just trying to to do more things with Alex.
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I just had a great meeting with three kids because I thought,
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we're having difficulty getting through to the schools
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and to the students through administration, understandably so.
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But they don't know about us.
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They don't know that we have this location in Guilford.
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Kids in Guilford don't know that we're there. Oh, I know.
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So I'm two of them reached out to me who have no one.
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Her her step mother had come and did an author talk.
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And so she connected her senior, her stepchild, with me and said
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that, you know, this this young girl would love to get involved.
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And another one I knew just over the years,
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because she has been a vendor and incredible human being.
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She would make some great things and she would make about $500
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and she would donate every penny to Alex.
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Wow. Every penny. Wow.
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Just incredible humans.
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So she reached out to me a few days with the other one reaching out to me.
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And then this other younger girl who's about.
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Well yeah, they're about 15.
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They have come to the Alex space and they also go to Guilford High School.
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So I was like the three of you kids get together.
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And they did.
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And we got together tonight at the and and they had some fantastic ideas.
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And I said, listen, they often say from the mouth of babes. Right.
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Well you have to you want you want the people who you're serving
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to tell you what they need.
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It's like I always say, there's a bunch of adults sitting at a table.
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Don't know what the youth needs at this.
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At this moment, I am super excited that you talk to them.
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Absolutely. And they one of them even said
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she was like, wow.
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I just think that, you know, we we don't like all these bright lights.
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We don't like this Walmart lighting.
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We need like fairy lights.
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We need soft lights and very light.
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Yeah.
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I was like, well, I'll do you tell me what you need and I will do it for you.
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You know, bring me the people, tell me what you need
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and I'll absolutely make this.
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And they love the space.
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They're like, it's so cozy, it's so nice.
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But let's just dim the lights. But let's talk.
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Let's talk about, like, takes time for organizations to get out there.
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Yeah. You know, the space was open.
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Not even a year.
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You know, patience is what we have to be.
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I mean, you know, we have to outreach, outreach, outreach as we're doing. So.
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I'm so happy, though.
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You got the right audience in front. Of it.
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I do, and these are three kids that want to help.
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And they really want to do stuff for Alex.
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And they see the importance of it.
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Yeah. So and so that was great.
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And then How's Joe doing?
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Joe are the our favorite guests.
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Our kind of song. Sorry, Joe.
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No, Joe is great.
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Joe was great.
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I think we're kind of embracing life together, just the two of us.
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Even though my oldest is home. But he's not really home, you know?
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I mean, he's there, but he's not really there.
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Trying new things.
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We're going away this weekend.
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I have a little surprise vacation for him planned.
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It's only a couple of days, but we're going to Maine.
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We're going to wait.
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Will this air before?
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No, we're going to Kitty Bunk Pausch, which I've never been to,
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but I've heard great things about it.
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So, Joe doesn't like to travel far, though, so I was like, Joe,
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it's going to be about 3.5 hours, maybe more.
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He's like, you drive.
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I said, of course. I will. Does he?
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So he's not going to know until you get there? Nope. He has no idea.
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Oh I love that. Yeah. Yeah. So
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so we're doing that.
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But that's, that's that's really it.
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And, and my main question is you.
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Yeah. Oh.
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How are you?
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Trying to be okay.
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Yeah. If that makes sense.
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Yeah I, I.
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It gets me
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very angry that something so terrible happened to such a wonderful person
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who was doing so much good in the world, and it was literally taken
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and just thrown back into your face and and weaponized against you.
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And. Well, that's one thing that that was terrible, how I was targeted.
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That was terrible. Yes.
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I think what hurts my heart
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and really and, you know, I'm always honest, even on any social media
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and I'm honest on the show, what really brings me the most sadness
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is that nobody reaches out anymore.
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I mean, I was a person that was going.
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24 over seven helping people organization.
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Say, Tony, you want to sit on a panel? Hey, Tony, can you speak here?
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Hey, Tony, I have this kid.
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No one. It is crickets.
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And that brings me sadness because,
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well,
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it brought me sadness until I had this therapy session that kind of,
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like, helped me, shout out to my therapist.
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When I started the support
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groups for kids in 2008, not one person was doing anything.
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Not one organization in Connecticut was really,
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I mean, True Colors was doing something, but they didn't have anything for just
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trans kids because back then they were putting the trans kids in
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with the LGBT kids, and the LGBT kids were LGBT kids were making fun of the kids.
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That's why I started the groups in New Haven.
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Yeah, I didn't I don't need anybody to do what I do.
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I've done it.
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But what hurts is the way everybody just, like, dropped me like a hot potato.
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And I understand that if having some type of relationship with me is going to hurt
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an organization, I absolutely don't want you to have a relationship with me.
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But why don't we sit down and talk about it or do it?
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You know, like, hey, still ask me for my opinion?
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I mean, I was just
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when I tell you the silence and the isolation that I have gone through
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this past year and a half has been emotionally damaging, really has.
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I've seen it.
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Oh, yeah. You've seen it. I've, I've I've seen it.
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And the uncertainty.
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Uncertainty is like I don't know if I'm going to be able to keep my house.
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I haven't found a job yet, you know.
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And and that uncertainty brings me into a freaking spiral, you know.
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And that's what happens, right?
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We start writing the stories, you know.
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But I like
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was it your therapist that told you work for 4
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or 5 hours a day, meaning do some thing, some sort of right.
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And I, I think that's so important because when I wasn't working,
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I was laying on a couch watching TV,
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getting all sorts of things in my head that I shouldn't have.
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Yeah.
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Getting to places I shouldn't be because you you just have that time.
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You could easily.
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Lay on that couch and.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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What was me? But.
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And maybe you got there at times.
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I do. I am there at times still.
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But you also know that you need to get out and go for walks. Yep.
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You need to still reach out to people and to still obviously look for jobs.
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But also.
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Yeah.
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Also you're continuously trying to
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to do things to feel better.
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I in March I said to myself, you have to control what you have control over.
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And I started taking care of myself.
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I've dropped 24 pounds.
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I almost walk every day.
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I feel good about that.
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I eat healthy now and I just.
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I feel really good.
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I've also put close to 200 applications in and I haven't.
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I think I got one interview that was it. Out of the 200.
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I think it's ageism.
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I think they figure out how old I am,
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and I'm not a young person physically, but I'm very immature.
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If they only new.
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Album and, you know, I'm developing workshops for corporate around
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kindness and corporate bullying
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and understanding it and like different types of leaders like,
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you know, there's toxic leaders, there's nice leaders and there's kind leaders.
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You want to be a kind leader, all that stuff.
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And I'm reaching out to people.
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I'm doing everything I can
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to try to bring some income in because there's no income at all.
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So I'm trying.
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No, I, I will say that I have never seen somebody work as hard as you have in that
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and I
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but I'm also really like I would say to Cameron,
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I would say to you that I'm super proud that you haven't just
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let it all in and just said, forget it.
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You know.
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I've had days where I was like, is it really worth it?
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But then I bring myself back into the present and right now I am okay.
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I, I love my home.
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I get up every morning, I, I can eat breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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I go for walks on the beach.
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You know, life isn't bad.
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It's just the uncertainty of my future where I get stuck.
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Yeah. You know, and that's.
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I think a lot of people kind of get stuck in that situation.
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But you got to be grateful for what you have.
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And I will tell you what I told drew.
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You know, we had drew on the show, too.
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And I said, rest up, my friend, because once this administration changes,
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diversity and inclusion training is going to be all what it's about,
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and we're going to be really freaking busy.
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Yes. So I'm already developing trainings for I mean, I have so many trainings
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that are developed for when the gate opens
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and people want diversity training.
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I mean, in schools and stuff like that, like inclusion.
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Schools have gone very quiet. Very quiet.
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Not necessarily because they've had to, though.
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I think they I think they're doing it.
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I think they're afraid of losing federal funding.
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And that's a lot a part of their it's me.
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What did they say like 510% of their budget.
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That's that's what I was told at one point.
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I don't know if that's true or not.
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But you know it's just like you have to think about that.
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If that part of their budget, say
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gets a para to be one on one with a kid
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that has a disability, we wouldn't want that taken away from them.
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I mean, you know, it's it's unfortunate that
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like what happened the other day
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when I was at that library for the authors thing.
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Right.
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I'm sitting there and I really debated,
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do I put all my books out or did I just put the memoir out?
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But I put all of them out.
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I put Artistic Expressions of Transgender Youth, volume one and two, and my memoir,
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and this older gentleman comes walking by my table,
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and he's looking and he's looking, and then he looks at me
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and he says, oh my God, you look really masculine.
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And I wanted to say he must have because I wrote about transgender.
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He must think I'm transgender
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because nowhere on my table did it say I'm I'm trans, right?
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Not nowhere, not kiss me. I'm trans.
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Nothing. Okay.
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That's a new pen, Tony.
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Yeah. Kiss me. I'm trying. Or hug me.
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Kissing is a little too much right now for me.
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I'm. I'm emotionally unavailable.
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Anyway, so I said to him like, oh, thank you.
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I think so too, you know?
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And he says, listen, I'm, I respect the transgenders.
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Now, right away, I know that he is not educated.
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Right. And I'm trying.
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I'm just I, my superpower is being kind to people who aren't kind to me.
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It's very important.
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And as soon as he started
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talking like that, I said to myself, remember who you are.
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In other words,
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no matter what this guy says to me, if he's screaming in my face and if I
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yell back, look at the trans person, what an asshole, a trans person is it?
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I knew that from the beginning, when I started
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making the decision to be public and be a voice for kids,
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that I always needed to be kind, I needed to set that example.
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So he goes on to say, you know, I'm just saying I
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and he's Italian, so I know I'm Italian, so I know exactly what he's going to say.
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He's like, I'm just saying,
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like, I'm not pushing my own stuff, but there's only male and female.
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That's it.
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Now, I could have agreed with him and said, yeah, I'm male,
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but I honor my non-binary friends.
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So I wouldn't say that.
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And I said to him, you know, it's there, we definitely disagree on this.
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But we can I mean we just don't have to hate or hurt each other.
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I wish you peace.
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That's exactly what I said thinking that this guy is going to like walk away.
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Yeah.
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So he says, well, now listen, like I'm not going to push my my point here, but
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this country has gone too far
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and schools have to stop teaching this shit, okay?
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They need to teach reading, writing and arithmetic and not pissed me off.
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I'm going to be totally honest.
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That pissed me off.
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But I kept it in and I said, well, let me give you
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a little bit of an educational moment here, sir.
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Schools aren't teaching it.
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You can't teach this.
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What schools are doing is they're honoring students,
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how they identify
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and how they want to be called so that they feel like they belong,
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so they can learn, so they can thrive like everybody else.
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Well, these kids are too young to know.
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And I said, did you know?
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And I caught him off guard.
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And I said, did you know? And he was like, what?
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I said, did you know you were a boy when you were younger?
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Well, yeah, of course.
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I said, well then we know.
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Well, no, they're too young to know that.
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I said, you just said, you know,
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I said, isn't it sad that people who are trans and non-binary,
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the only kids that are questioned about their gender, are them?
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Nobody questions assist gender non trans kid if how they know who they are.
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Yeah I said but you know again sir we could agree to disagree.
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Okay I wish you peace.
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And he finally left but I was just exhausted.
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I was like really?
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Like first of all there's nowhere on my table that says I'm trans, you know?
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And thank you for without a like, a half compliment. Exactly.
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That's a backhand of block.
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
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But I had an interaction kind of like that on Facebook
20:48
with I have a, a Facebook friend. Right.
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So not I'm somebody I met throughout the past however
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many years of my life, five six years and became Facebook friends.
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So he's always so good with being pro trans always.
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He just always posts these things.
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And he posted something.
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And then this one
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woman starts down the whole like, what are you posting this about?
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There's no correlation between what you're saying and, and it was about,
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about being transgender and
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I don't really know specifically, but
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she goes down the whole path about sports,
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and she goes on the whole path about lockers and bathrooms.
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And I'm reading this thing, and I and I don't know her at all, and
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I prefer to sometimes I prefer to go back and forth with people that I don't know.
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Yeah. Oh yeah. That's. Yeah. Yeah.
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And so
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I just said to her and I'm always very, very respectful,
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I can't stand how people are just like nasty to each other.
21:48
It's just not a conversation to have.
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So I thought I was like, well,
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let me see if I can just help her out a little bit here.
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So I sort of just said, what do you mean by
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bathrooms and lockers?
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And she said, well,
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there's enough information out there.
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There's enough stories about this. Have you not seen the lawsuits?
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Is your head in the sand?
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And I said, no, no, no.
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My head is not in the sand.
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I said, I am personally
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I personally know about this.
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So, I just wonder where you're getting your information from.
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Yeah.
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And she just what she responded was,
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I don't want to say just Fox, but that's what it was.
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I was almost just said to you when you said, where's she going?
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I almost said, Fox. But that's what it is.
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And every time I put Fox News on for any reason or comes on or whatever,
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or my in-laws have it on, I'm like, what is this rubbish?
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It's rubbish.
22:43
And they and so this is she is just like,
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she's just spewing out whatever like ridiculousness.
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She's, she's, she's listening to. Yeah.
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And I and I said to her
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I wish you had compassion
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for something that you clearly don't know anything about.
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I wish that you would understand the some of the things that you're hearing
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are absolute falsehoods. Yeah.
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And I hope that you never have to deal with anything like this
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where you have a loved one who's living in a world
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that is trying to
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basically destroy them.
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And she never responded when I got personal with it.
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Yeah, she stopped responding.
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And I don't mind that because I'm going to talk to you about the reality.
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You're just talking Fox News to me and whatever else
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right wing stuff you're listening to.
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And I don't really get into that whole right wing, left wing thing.
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You know, I'm not really political like that in that way. Yeah.
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The reality is you live with a child who has trend.
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You have an answer, uncle, who is trans, you have friends who have trans.
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You know what it is.
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You know what?
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What it's like.
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Yeah.
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You really watch the news.
23:48
You really listen to the stories.
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You really make sure that you can understand.
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You're just listening to this stupid stuff.
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It's. It's very. Sad community.
23:57
And I remember when I was up at East Khan doing a training,
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I think there was like 300 educators in the room.
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I mean, I always look at the ones that are sitting with their arms
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folded that they don't even want to be here.
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They start talking about bathrooms because I let's talk about it, you know,
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and I said, what's your thoughts to this woman?
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She looked pissed and she says, well, that's ridiculous.
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I don't want a man in in the ladies room.
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I don't want a man in the ladies room. So they're not men.
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They're women.
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They're women.
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Okay, I said, how about me?
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Yeah. Do you want me in your your bathroom?
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Because if you're if you're going to say that trans women
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can't use the women's, then I shouldn't be able to use the men's.
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And do you want me to
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walk into the bathroom and say, excuse me, man, scoot over.
24:40
I got to wash my hands.
24:42
And she did not even like.
24:44
People don't realize that.
24:46
People don't realize that.
24:47
It's not, you know, listen,
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if you're in
24:51
a my our audience, if you're in a bathroom
24:55
and somebody walks in and you're questioning their gender,
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I can tell you that they are more afraid of being in that bathroom
25:01
than you are them.
25:02
And there's never that I know of.
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And I should do research before I say this, but I don't think there's ever
25:07
been a trans person arrested in a bathroom for molesting anyone.
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Let's be absolutely clear, okay?
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We use the bathroom.
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You want to know why trans people use the bathroom?
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Because we have to pee.
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Okay. That's it, that's it.
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And you better just hope we wash our hands.
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I mean, isn't that the most important thing about going to the bathroom?
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No matter where you go, wash your hands.
25:27
When Cameron first came out, I was terrified.
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Every time
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when he started using the male bathrooms, I would always send his brothers
25:34
or his dad in there with him because I was so nervous.
25:37
And now when he goes to the bathroom, I'm waiting for ever, Tony.
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And I'm like, he comes out and like, what takes you so long?
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He's like, mom, I have to wait for a stall.
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Yeah. One stall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's different.
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Yeah.
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He's like, it takes, you know, all these guys are going in and out, in and out.
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And I'm like, where the heck is Cameron?
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Do you want to know where my first men's room was? Where?
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Grand Central station.
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Yeah.
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That's brave. Of you.
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Yeah. It was it was very brave.
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I was like, I'm doing it.
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It was so many people walking in and. I probably didn't. Even know.
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I got to tell you prior to that moment,
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anytime we went to New York, I had to hold it all day.
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Yeah, because I, like I told you,
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nobody was shocked when I said I was transitioning.
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I was really a butch lesbian, so I if I ever walked near a ladies room,
26:18
they'd be like, this is the ladies room, you know?
26:20
And one woman one time grabbed her kid and I was like, come on.
26:25
So holding it in all day or not
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drinking or eating anything so I didn't have to use the bathroom.
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So I'll tell you, it was a freeing moment when I was able to use the bathroom
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whenever the hell I wanted to.
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And kids do that all the time.
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They hold it in all day because they're so afraid of using it.
26:40
Tony, we could go on and talk.
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We could go on forever talking about bathrooms, but we won't.
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But listen, it was good catching up with you.
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You know, as always.
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And, I guess that's it.
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